(313)Derrick May Mix - Bristol 1990
Derrick May Mix - Bristol 1990 posted on discogs: http://homepage.mac.com/improper if that doesn't work, here the link to discogs: www.discogs.com/forums/topic?topic_id=50219 james www.jbucknell.com
Re: (313) stinson interview
having technical trouble reading the interview. darn. On Tuesday, November 2, 2004, at 07:49 AM, Aidan O'Doherty wrote: http://www.dorja.com/~daveg/entries/2004/10/14/drexciya-interview- from-melody-maker-1995/ apologies if this has been posted before. the late mr stinson didn't mince his words, especially with regards to hawtin. how long is it since there has been a richie bashing on this list? ta, aidan
Re: (313) stinson interview
remove the space right before from in the link http://www.dorja.com/~daveg/entries/2004/10/14/drexciya-interview-from-melody-maker-1995/ jason kenjar wrote: having technical trouble reading the interview. darn. On Tuesday, November 2, 2004, at 07:49 AM, Aidan O'Doherty wrote: http://www.dorja.com/~daveg/entries/2004/10/14/drexciya-interview- from-melody-maker-1995/ apologies if this has been posted before. the late mr stinson didn't mince his words, especially with regards to hawtin. how long is it since there has been a richie bashing on this list? ta, aidan
Re: (313) stinson interview
well it wears me off, that kind of ethnic recuperation of 'music'. all is an influence of another unless you lie suffocating in your own oxygen-lacking biosphere, right. I remember presenting the topic straight to Richie in 97 for an interview and he just was cool with it, and replied that a week before he had been eating with the other member of Drexciya. And what if techno music integrated Kraftwerk? 'Don't tell me Kraftwerk were black' he said. I was so glad. A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario Aidan O'Doherty schreef: http://www.dorja.com/~daveg/entries/2004/10/14/drexciya-interview-from-melody-maker-1995/ apologies if this has been posted before. the late mr stinson didn't mince his words, especially with regards to hawtin. how long is it since there has been a richie bashing on this list? ta, aidan
RE: (313) stinson interview/
De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
(313) Miami Peoples
What's up Miami, I will be coming down to play live and dj this weekend. Come and hang. AMALGAMA RECORDS PRESENTS: John Arnold (Ubiquity/Transmat) Live and dj set John Beltran (Ubiquity) dj set plus: Juan Rojas Ramon Santiago Ari K Friday Nov. 5th the District 35ne 40 street 10pm-? free admission Beltran and I will also be at the Delano on Saturday the 6th..
(313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
You should all come over here. You'd at least get more chances to check out Detroit acts ;) -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:39 PM To: 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) Kerry admits it's over
Pretty gutted - there was a real chance there...
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
Careful Rob! We can't have 'em all coming over here, stealing our jobs, chewing their gum, wooing our womenfolk and raiding our second-hand shops for desirable rarities before we've even had a chance to sleep off our hangovers... ;) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2004 16:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Redmond, Ja'Maul; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, You should all come over here. You'd at least get more chances to check out Detroit acts ;) -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:39 PM To: 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:)
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
Sorry for the non-french speakers, but they miss on a really nice bit of info about Canadians here : http://fr.news.yahoo.com/041103/202/44klm.html Just kidding ! Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:41 PM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Careful Rob! We can't have 'em all coming over here, stealing our jobs, chewing their gum, wooing our womenfolk and raiding our second-hand shops for desirable rarities before we've even had a chance to sleep off our hangovers... ;) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2004 16:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Redmond, Ja'Maul; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, You should all come over here. You'd at least get more chances to check out Detroit acts ;) -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:39 PM To: 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:)
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
HAHAHA,,I'm practically married so your women are safe. I've stopped buying records and I hate gum,,, but I would have to steal at least one job or maybe even two. You know how we american like to consume. I would have to pay for all the crap I have. Um,, all of this is 50% joking and um 50% serious. My firm does have an office in Vancouver, but it's the most desirable office right behind Seattle for all of our current employees, so there's a wait list as big as Canada,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:41 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Careful Rob! We can't have 'em all coming over here, stealing our jobs, chewing their gum, wooing our womenfolk and raiding our second-hand shops for desirable rarities before we've even had a chance to sleep off our hangovers... ;) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2004 16:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Redmond, Ja'Maul; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, You should all come over here. You'd at least get more chances to check out Detroit acts ;) -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:39 PM To: 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:)
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
Mr. Burd, You can leave this list and go listen to born again CW music while waving your flag. Your type isn't needed around here. telepathic regards, the kooky scientist please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
I feel the same way. The Presidency, House, and Senate are in the GOP control. Several states passed very restrictive acts concerning the definitions of marriage. I went to Montreal this summer for Mutek and loved the city. Toronto is nice too. We half jokingly said it would be great to move there. If only the winters weren't so brutal.. From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:49:57 -0500 I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
Re: (313) Kerry admits it's over
Yep, more than depressing. np: AON - A Time for Fear (Who's Afraid) [1984 ZTT/Island] Lord, Lord, Lord ... where did we get such men? So what happens now? Martin Dust wrote: Pretty gutted - there was a real chance there...
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
Just curious : here in France, and I think in a number of other european countries, there are some ads inviting people to move to Canada... Is it the same in the US ? Or is it just a move from the french-speaking states in Canada to bring more french people there and balance the anglophones ? Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : LR T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:14 PM À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I feel the same way. The Presidency, House, and Senate are in the GOP control. Several states passed very restrictive acts concerning the definitions of marriage. I went to Montreal this summer for Mutek and loved the city. Toronto is nice too. We half jokingly said it would be great to move there. If only the winters weren't so brutal.. From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:49:57 -0500 I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
Well, the American nation was founded by people who were escaping persecution and discrimination in their home countries. It's not entirely out of keeping with the American mindset for people who aren't extreme right-wingers to be getting itchy feet themselves right about now. -Original Message- From: LR T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2004 17:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I feel the same way. The Presidency, House, and Senate are in the GOP control. Several states passed very restrictive acts concerning the definitions of marriage. I went to Montreal this summer for Mutek and loved the city. Toronto is nice too. We half jokingly said it would be great to move there. If only the winters weren't so brutal..
RE: (313) Kerry admits it's over
We tried... maybe now they'll have the chance to impeach Bush for his lies. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:42 AM To: 313 (E-mail) Subject: (313) Kerry admits it's over Pretty gutted - there was a real chance there... --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.786 / Virus Database: 532 - Release Date: 10/29/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.786 / Virus Database: 532 - Release Date: 10/29/04
RE: (313) Kerry admits it's over
At 12:14 PM 11/3/2004, George Jones IV - Logic7 wrote: We tried... maybe now they'll have the chance to impeach Bush for his lies. not with a republican majority in congress... -- mkb matt kane's bloody nose :( -- Matt Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Leaving...gone(OT)
I've posted to several Canadian boards already. For right now I'm seriously researching this. What does it take to 1.teach in Canada 2.teach in the UK. For right now it's not permanent, just temporary. At this point I need something to make me understand and appreciate American more than I do right now. I figure maybe leaving for a while after graduation might be the only solution. If there are any teachers on here I could speak more indepth with this about please let me know. Email me privately. [EMAIL PROTECTED] pottsdia (AIM) __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com
(313) Kerry admits it's over
In a way it may be for the best the way the vote has gone. It could have been a bit of a poison chalice for the democrats, considering the mess the US economy has been left in and the situation in Iraq. Four more years might be just what it takes to wake some people up in a real and meaningful way ! Still extremely depressing though Eamonn / D1 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.781 / Virus Database: 527 - Release Date: 21/10/2004
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
I've received e-mails like that before, but no adds. They came from travel agents mostly. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Cobert, Gwendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:17 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Just curious : here in France, and I think in a number of other european countries, there are some ads inviting people to move to Canada... Is it the same in the US ? Or is it just a move from the french-speaking states in Canada to bring more french people there and balance the anglophones ? Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : LR T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:14 PM À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I feel the same way. The Presidency, House, and Senate are in the GOP control. Several states passed very restrictive acts concerning the definitions of marriage. I went to Montreal this summer for Mutek and loved the city. Toronto is nice too. We half jokingly said it would be great to move there. If only the winters weren't so brutal.. From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:49:57 -0500 I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
Didn't you hear? Ads like that have just been outlawed. No one gets out of here alive... MEK Redmond, Ja'Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org nswill.com cc: Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, 11/03/2004 12:09 PM I've received e-mails like that before, but no adds. They came from travel agents mostly. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Cobert, Gwendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:17 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Just curious : here in France, and I think in a number of other european countries, there are some ads inviting people to move to Canada... Is it the same in the US ? Or is it just a move from the french-speaking states in Canada to bring more french people there and balance the anglophones ? Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : LR T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:14 PM À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I feel the same way. The Presidency, House, and Senate are in the GOP control. Several states passed very restrictive acts concerning the definitions of marriage. I went to Montreal this summer for Mutek and loved the city. Toronto is nice too. We half jokingly said it would be great to move there. If only the winters weren't so brutal.. From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:49:57 -0500 I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
RE: (313) Kerry admits it's over
Yo this was the most important election on earth in recent history. The effect that the elected president has the oportunity to have on the rest of the world is unprecidented. Obviously not too many people thought it through. I have a friend whose wife was kerry all the way and then voted bush last night because she couldn't bear to make her mom mad.!! WTF? The decision of the direction of our country hinges on someones maternal issues? This is not what the country needs and I feel it really underscores the (apparrently) overwhelming notion that it's okay to base life altering decisions affecting huge sections of our (earth's) populace on personal fears (whether real or suggested/planted by media). with regards to the outcome of the marriage laws, I think the gop has succeeded in creating an atmosphere of fear so pervasive and a media blackout so effective, that the american people have begun a regression into the whacked-out puritan paranoia that founded this place.! And before I get in any trouble, sorry all, it's a real sore spot for me but I'll shut up now. Hows the job market in canada? I really would like to know from someone on ground zero. Any preference of canadian cities besides the tdot? Whatup with bc? Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change. -Original Message- From: D1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:10 PM To: 313 (E-mail) Subject: (313) Kerry admits it's over In a way it may be for the best the way the vote has gone. It could have been a bit of a poison chalice for the democrats, considering the mess the US economy has been left in and the situation in Iraq. Four more years might be just what it takes to wake some people up in a real and meaningful way ! Still extremely depressing though Eamonn / D1 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.781 / Virus Database: 527 - Release Date: 21/10/2004
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't you hear? Ads like that have just been outlawed. No one gets out of here alive... MEK Well, there's still one loophole: http://marryanamerican.ca/ -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
RE: (313) Kerry admits it's over
LOL!!! whatever... -Original Message- From: George Jones IV - Logic7 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:15 PM To: 313 (E-mail) Subject: RE: (313) Kerry admits it's over We tried... maybe now they'll have the chance to impeach Bush for his lies. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:42 AM To: 313 (E-mail) Subject: (313) Kerry admits it's over Pretty gutted - there was a real chance there... --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.786 / Virus Database: 532 - Release Date: 10/29/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.786 / Virus Database: 532 - Release Date: 10/29/04
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
Mr. Gianelli, Thank you for the offer, but I think I'll stay. It appears that you aren't accepting of my type. Can I not share a liking of electronic music with you while being a conservative Republican and speak up against those who criticize this country? I believe our friend Chris voted for Mr. Bush as well, do you plan to boycott FSC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Stephen Burd Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Mr. Burd, You can leave this list and go listen to born again CW music while waving your flag. Your type isn't needed around here. telepathic regards, the kooky scientist please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
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I believe our friend Chris voted for Mr. Bush as well, do you plan to boycott FSC? Maybe he could do that while you chomp down on your freedom fries. oh...that was ANOTHER boycott...oops. (i know this is an immature post...sorry) /end political flame throwing on public music list __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
good one, good one. it's okay...i can dish it out and take it too ;) (side note, i don't do the whole boycott thing anyhow :) -Original Message- From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:28 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I believe our friend Chris voted for Mr. Bush as well, do you plan to boycott FSC? Maybe he could do that while you chomp down on your freedom fries. oh...that was ANOTHER boycott...oops. (i know this is an immature post...sorry) /end political flame throwing on public music list __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com
RE: (313) Kerry admits it's over
I think the gop has succeeded in creating an atmosphere of fear so pervasive and a media blackout so effective, that the american people have begun a regression into the whacked-out puritan paranoia that founded this place.! -- I think that if people made a point of accessing more global(ly oriented) and 'alternative' media it could really make a difference in obtaining a more balanced view on a whole number of issues. And before I get in any trouble, sorry all, it's a real sore spot for me but I'll shut up now. Hows the job market in canada? I really would like to know from someone on ground zero. Any preference of canadian cities besides the tdot? Whatup with bc? -- Although I'm a strong supporter of a global exchange of ideas, hospitality and even residency, a large exodus of more leftwing oriented people probably wouldn't benefit the US itself. For obvious reasons... Will it all go to damnation? Well... I seem to rember a certain musical style (or at least currents within it) found a fertile breeding ground in the grim mood of the 80ies when Reagonomics and the virtual bankrupcy of the US due to the fight against the 'evil empire' (Does this sound familiar?) was weighing down big time on 'little folks'. Maybe these new 'dark' times people will find their escape in the music or use it as a vehicle to voice their oppinion/protest. In believe in these times some of the messages UR launched in the early/mid nineties really prevail, they even got stronger: Do not allow yourself to be programmed! John --- http://www.technotourist.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) political threads on 313
Many of us may have very strong, deeply personal opinions right now about what's happening in america, for better or worse. i'd hate to see the value of 313 get eclipsed by personal / us vs. them / partisan / policy attacks that devolve into a pissing contest, stereotypes and cliches. please everyone make an effort to not use the list as your plank/stump, and respect each other even when you opinion is 180 degrees opposite of someone else. i have very strong feelings too but knowing when/where to discuss them is part of what makes you a asset or liability to 313. this can be done in a respectful, open and on-topic way... or a poisonous, personal attack route... make sure it doesn't go the latter and keep things on topic. also, just so all the non-US listmembers know, it's probably a sensitive time to scrub salt in any fresh wounds.. proceed with caution as you trip over each other to all chime in. are you really adding value to 313 or just throwing rocks at an angry bees nest already. let's all cool out. and have a stiff drink for that matter. -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
RE: (313) Kerry admits it's over
Will it all go to damnation? Well... I seem to rember a certain musical style (or at least currents within it) found a fertile breeding ground in the grim mood of the 80ies when Reagonomics and the virtual bankrupcy of the US due to the fight against the 'evil empire' (Does this sound familiar?) was weighing down big time on 'little folks'. Maybe these new 'dark' times people will find their escape in the music or use it as a vehicle to voice their oppinion/protest. In believe in these times some of the messages UR launched in the early/mid nineties really prevail, they even got stronger: Do not allow yourself to be programmed! Well, that's all nice but how does that affect Roe vs Wade? How does that affect the legal rights of non-citizens in the US? How does that affect if they really do intend to re-instate the draft? Music isn't going to save the American people from damnation... tune into http://www.kfai.org/ they're running Democracy Now and talking about how the viloence is going to step up quite a bit in Iraq because Bush doesn't need to worry about approval ratings anymore I'd hate to be there now and I feel for the soldiers and Iraqis almost equally MEK
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We'vew Gotten WAY off topic. But oh well. Someone will have some music news soon. :) But I've often wondered, why people get personally upset When another speaks negatively against America. Regardless of Political Party. I mean seriously. I love America, But there are things wrong with this country. Just like all other countries there's good and bad. Are we not to ever discuss the bad???Are we suppose to Just ignore, the over-consumption, complete disregard of natural resources, poor schools, Outrages healthcare system, etc. etc. It's not like we're making up things , we're just stating the facts in hopes of discussing a solution. But often times I find people here, both repulican and democratics that say,, oh if you hate it, then leave. ?? I'm an architect and the firm I'm working with is getting blasted for trying to push Green Buildings. My managers here in Charlotte try to justify our agenda by stating the fact that in general America is Building WAY TOO many Building and We need to correct the situation somehow as designers. You know what we hear? GO DESIGN Somewhere else!!! This is from well educated officials and CEO's of many healthcare facilities and Banks. Meanwhile Our Vancouver office ( where they don't even have a glutten of usless contruction has already completed 4 Green Builings.) I say the problem isn't the problem. Th problem is Denying the problem. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:24 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Mr. Gianelli, Thank you for the offer, but I think I'll stay. It appears that you aren't accepting of my type. Can I not share a liking of electronic music with you while being a conservative Republican and speak up against those who criticize this country? I believe our friend Chris voted for Mr. Bush as well, do you plan to boycott FSC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Stephen Burd Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Mr. Burd, You can leave this list and go listen to born again CW music while waving your flag. Your type isn't needed around here. telepathic regards, the kooky scientist please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of Perkins+society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
(313) RE:OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Ja'Maul Redmond I was talking with a Canadian about this at the weekend (not sure if the guy's is still on the list, he said he used to be.) I was somewhat surprised to hear that techno, in the widest sense, was still 'happening' in Montreal (more than Toronto). Maybe I shouldn't have been though, with the well-known ascendance of the glitch/minimal house trend in that city. I suppose the Mutek festival is the best manifestation of that. Maybe we should now conclude that for music at least, Canada is closer to 'Detroit' than most of the USA, quite literally. And now, perhaps more than ever! (Before I get flamed, I should make it clear that I'm only being half-serious!) k
RE: (313) Kerry admits it's over
MEK: Music isn't going to save the American people from damnation... --- Never said it would. I was just trying to see the silver lining behind the storm front. And pointing out that through music you can at least try to make a change. There's other ways of getting involved too, but - as Matt pointed out - that would be great for private discussions, but not on the list. John
(313) Recent record purchases
No time for reviews at the moment (must meet Mr. Taylor for the drink he just recommeded), but these are all presently available at a fine vinyl retailer near you. I like them. Some of them very much. Henrik Schwarz : Jon (Sunday Music) Morten Cargo At Ease/Henrik Schwarz : Farewell Causality/Jimis (Diamonds Pearls Music) Model 500 - Be Brave Remixes #2 (RS) Infiniti - Game One/Think Quick (Metroplex) Yoav B - Boogie Down Saturn (Wabi Sabi) Aardvarck : Cult Copy Pt.2 (Carl Craig Edit) (Rush Hour) Omar S : 004 (FXHE) Shed : Egotism EP (Soloaction) Shed : Soloaction EP (Delsin) CHICAGO HOUSING COMMISSION: Volume 2 (Chicago Housin Commission US) CHICAGO HOUSING COMMISSION: Volume 3 (Chicago Housin Commission US) DIRTY CRIMINALS, The: Organized Confusion (2x12) (Gigolo Germany) HOOD, Robert: Molecule EP (Logistic France) KAITO: Soul Of Heart (Kompakt Germany) MEMORY FOUNDATION, The: Hot Smokey EP (Central Austria) RED PLANET EXPRESS: Red Planet Express EP (Solo Action Germany) Concept 1 : Forcept 1 (Reinterpretation By Akufen) De La Soul : The Grind Date (2x 12) Jacen Solo : Forbidden Medicine Theo Parrish : Pieces Of A Paradox Sixtoo : Body Ache Summer EP 3 CHAIRS : 3 Chairs Part II [SOUND SIGNATURE] THEO PARRISH : Moonlight Music You [SOUND SIGNATURE] THEO PARRISH : Lights Down Low [SOUND SIGNATURE] IRIDITE PRODUCTIONS : The Acceptable Face of Elitist Techno [DOWN LOW] QUADRANT : Infinition [BASIC CHANNEL] ...and hopefully these, on which I'm awaiting confirmation: ROBERT HOOD : UNTITLED [M PLANT] ROBERT HOOD : I [M PLANT] 154 : STRIKE (2X12) [DELSIN] INNER CITY : SAY SOMETHING, REESE REMIX [KMS] LOOSEFINGERS GLANCING AT THE MOON [ALLEVIATED] Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Kerry admits it's over
MEK: Music isn't going to save the American people from damnation... Never under estimate the power of music - The Supremes bid more for racial harmony than any politician, big up Detroit...
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
i completely agree with matt's sentiments, but the subject says OT, and i am too angry to restrain myself to platitudes and self-censorship. you can not share a passion for the arts with being a bush supporter. there is virtually no gov't funding of the arts now, and it's going to get worse. it has already had a dramatic effect on arts and culture in the past 4 years. it's like being an animal lover and wearing fur, totally moronic. this has a drastic affect on the art world as a whole, from the academic world, to the viability of clubs, galleries, and performance spaces, to the economic wellbeing of arts-related industries. to be a bush supporter is to be obsessed with safety (an obvious euphemism for FEAR) and an agenda to make the christian way of life synonymous with the american way of life -- at the expense of civil rights, women's rights, religious freedom/seperation of church and state, fiscal responsibility, diplomacy, healthcare, education, responsible military strategy, etc! and har har, what a brainwash, the world hates our conservative leadership and it makes us a target, less safe (more fearful), so it's not about safety, it's about (christian) american self-righteousness, ego, and fear-induced puritanism going in a downward spiral. it's a tragedy! and it's dangerous. one of, if not THE most fundamental philosophies espoused by the constitution is seperation of church-state, it's the whole reason there is a USA to begin with, and yet we have evengelical christians guiding the country, making their beliefs law. thats so amazingly wrong, and in fact i think it is unconstituional (in ideology, if not by the letter of the law) to run for office on such a platform. popular support does not make it right; democracy is not democracy when it favors a viewpoint which inherently rejects other substantially represented viewpoints -- that's a democratic removal of freedom, which is as fundamental and dengerous a paradox as can be. it's fine to believe what you want but you can't impose your religious beliefs (aka morals ha) on the whole country. this election has been decided by scared little sheep clinging to tough talk, their empowering SUV's, and selfish, singleminded notions of God and morality that are retreating backwards towards puritanical blindness and intolerance. it's a failure of the american education system. unite the country my ass. good thing those republican-made Diebold voting machines in ohio and florida made for an accurate count (which Mr Diebold promised would go Bush's way months ago). the few times they've been independently tested before they've shown hours of un-recorded votes, unauthorized modem activity, and other signs of tampering. but EVEN if this election was won fair and square, which i rather doubt, i don't care -- the people and the leadership of this country disgust me, and i see incredibly dangerous trends taking hold. we're going backwards, and it's my country too, i'm entitled to be pissed off as much as anyone else is entitled to be rejoicing. and i am so f***ing pissed off. and i am thankful to see others who sympathize regardless of the forum. jt ps nice words ja'maul. -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 3, 2004 1:23 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Mr. Gianelli, Thank you for the offer, but I think I'll stay. It appears that you aren't accepting of my type. Can I not share a liking of electronic music with you while being a conservative Republican and speak up against those who criticize this country? I believe our friend Chris voted for Mr. Bush as well, do you plan to boycott FSC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Stephen Burd Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Mr. Burd, You can leave this list and go listen to born again CW music while waving your flag. Your type isn't needed around here. telepathic regards, the kooky scientist please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday,
Re: (313) Kerry admits it's over
Get one these on M3K http://www.distopia.com/wake/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:19 PM Subject: Re: (313) Kerry admits it's over too bad the Supreme Court won't follow in the same vein Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org com cc: Subject: Re: (313) Kerry admits it's over 11/03/2004 01:59 PM Please respond to Martin Dust MEK: Music isn't going to save the American people from damnation... Never under estimate the power of music - The Supremes bid more for racial harmony than any politician, big up Detroit...
Re: (313) Miami Peoples
said in rockstar voice: What's Up Miami!!! at least, that's how i read it ;) On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, john arnold wrote: What's up Miami, I will be coming down to play live and dj this weekend. Come and hang. AMALGAMA RECORDS PRESENTS: John Arnold (Ubiquity/Transmat) Live and dj set John Beltran (Ubiquity) dj set plus: Juan Rojas Ramon Santiago Ari K Friday Nov. 5th the District 35ne 40 street 10pm-? free admission Beltran and I will also be at the Delano on Saturday the 6th..
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it's true- canada has the best gum. On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, Brendan Nelson wrote: Careful Rob! We can't have 'em all coming over here, stealing our jobs, chewing their gum, wooing our womenfolk and raiding our second-hand shops for desirable rarities before we've even had a chance to sleep off our hangovers... ;) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2004 16:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Redmond, Ja'Maul; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, You should all come over here. You'd at least get more chances to check out Detroit acts ;) -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:39 PM To: 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:)
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america was founded by a bunch of uppity religious zealots. nothing's changed. On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, Brendan Nelson wrote: Well, the American nation was founded by people who were escaping persecution and discrimination in their home countries. It's not entirely out of keeping with the American mindset for people who aren't extreme right-wingers to be getting itchy feet themselves right about now. -Original Message- From: LR T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2004 17:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I feel the same way. The Presidency, House, and Senate are in the GOP control. Several states passed very restrictive acts concerning the definitions of marriage. I went to Montreal this summer for Mutek and loved the city. Toronto is nice too. We half jokingly said it would be great to move there. If only the winters weren't so brutal..
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With all the political passions being released on the list today I would like to say that Stephen Burd actually called me to discuss the issues, talk about Detroit a little and to say that like my beginning statements, his statement was partially a joke as well. We all have our own personal and political beliefs and a discussion board is exactly a place to post them. But what I often find is that some people say or do things that they wouldn't necessarily say in person. I've had many debates,,(never political,,lol, mostly musical) on other message boards but I've never had anyone to actually take the time to contact me personally to clarify anything that may have been said on the message board. Stephen did just that. And to me that is admirable. With that said, I'm still interested in Canada,,,:) mainly because I was interested before the election and even more so now. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society
Re: (313) Kerry admits it's over
(last reply Matt-promise) http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/03/canada.us.reut/index.html --- Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get one these on M3K http://www.distopia.com/wake/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:19 PM Subject: Re: (313) Kerry admits it's over too bad the Supreme Court won't follow in the same vein Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org com cc: Subject: Re: (313) Kerry admits it's over 11/03/2004 01:59 PM Please respond to Martin Dust MEK: Music isn't going to save the American people from damnation... Never under estimate the power of music - The Supremes bid more for racial harmony than any politician, big up Detroit... __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com
(313) STOP!
... hammer time. -bp
Re: (313) Recent record purchases
Jacen Solo : Forbidden Medicine This rocks. I think a lot of people on this list will dig this 12. Ai records come up trumps yet again!
Re: (313) Recent record purchases
Les Georges Leningrad - Sur Les Traces De Black Eskimo (Alien8 Recordings) CD completely OT I think but absolutley brilliant noise post-punk drumbass Pere Ubu-ish madness from Montreal They'll be in Detroit on the 28th http://www.lesgeorgesleningrad.org/ Television Power Electric: 2 (Kuro Neko Music) CD electronic tone improvisation from Chicago (and beyond) - great spacey stuff. Came in a handmade paper sleeve with only a felt liner to keep the CD from getting scratched. Whole package is wrapped up with a paper band to keep the CD in place. Keith Hudson - Playing it Cool Playing it Right (Basic Replay records) 12 Nice reggae/dub reissue on Basic Channel's pure reggae and dub label also got another dub/reggae record that I'm trying to figure out who it is by details tomorrow maybe MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] .uk To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc: 11/03/2004 03:37 Subject: Re: (313) Recent record purchases PM Jacen Solo : Forbidden Medicine This rocks. I think a lot of people on this list will dig this 12. Ai records come up trumps yet again!
Re: (313) Recent record purchases
I think I just figured out the other dub record It's a Half Moon double 12 album with some connection to PK Records? according to someone on discogs PK are currently in production on 2 x 10 releases closely followed by an album...all killer dub: 1 x 10 by Niney the Observer, the other is a sampler for the forthcoming Half Moon album. Half Moon is a Jamaican/Canadian label; it will be their first CD release. I must have found that Half Moon album then this is the track listing a joe higgs - creation stranger cole - freedom, justice equality super 8 corporation - freedom version louis o'connor - lonely black b pluggy satchmo - what rasta say stranger cole jah levy - i'm living dill smith - set me free super 8 corporation - free version c rothadam - sampson oj - things felt right the blenders - why did you run away ? johnny osbourne - danger in your eyes d bongo ossie the moonlights - black society bingi kicks g. campbell - sky jack leroy sibbles otravis band - sky jacking version pluggy satchmo - 23rd psalm carl dawkins - luv is needed MEK
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
I feel some pretty dark, hard stuff coming out of the machines tonite once I patch in. fxckin pissed. I can't even listen to can you feel it - fingers right now. That's usually my inspiration if nothing else works. Feeling pretty pressurized. Feeling like making some techno. On that note. I also wonder if allowing the anger and judgemental attitudes to take hold now (after 4 years of trying to remain calm and balanced) might be counterintuitive to our (de/reprogrammers) cause. Are these feelings an acceptable response to the situation or is this the reaction the programmers wanted? Can techno really make a difference? If so, will the nitelife laws act as a limiter on any power that techno posseses? Was this a calculated preemptive strike to dull the power of techno? Discuss? **clarification** not really asking for advice as much as trying to spark intelligent convo on the subject AND keep it somewhat on topic. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change. -Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, i completely agree with matt's sentiments, but the subject says OT, and i am too angry to restrain myself to platitudes and self-censorship. you can not share a passion for the arts with being a bush supporter. there is virtually no gov't funding of the arts now, and it's going to get worse. it has already had a dramatic effect on arts and culture in the past 4 years. it's like being an animal lover and wearing fur, totally moronic. this has a drastic affect on the art world as a whole, from the academic world, to the viability of clubs, galleries, and performance spaces, to the economic wellbeing of arts-related industries. to be a bush supporter is to be obsessed with safety (an obvious euphemism for FEAR) and an agenda to make the christian way of life synonymous with the american way of life -- at the expense of civil rights, women's rights, religious freedom/seperation of church and state, fiscal responsibility, diplomacy, healthcare, education, responsible military strategy, etc! and har har, what a brainwash, the world hates our conservative leadership and it makes us a target, less safe (more fearful), so it's not about safety, it's about (christian) american self-righteousness, ego, and fear-induced puritanism going in a downward spiral. it's a tragedy! and it's dangerous. one of, if not THE most fundamental philosophies espoused by the constitution is seperation of church-state, it's the whole reason there is a USA to begin with, and yet we have evengelical christians guiding the country, making their beliefs law. thats so amazingly wrong, and in fact i think it is unconstituional (in ideology, if not by the letter of the law) to run for office on such a platform. popular support does not make it right; democracy is not democracy when it favors a viewpoint which inherently rejects other substantially represented viewpoints -- that's a democratic removal of freedom, which is as fundamental and dengerous a paradox as can be. it's fine to believe what you want but you can't impose your religious beliefs (aka morals ha) on the whole country. this election has been decided by scared little sheep clinging to tough talk, their empowering SUV's, and selfish, singleminded notions of God and morality that are retreating backwards towards puritanical blindness and intolerance. it's a failure of the american education system. unite the country my ass. good thing those republican-made Diebold voting machines in ohio and florida made for an accurate count (which Mr Diebold promised would go Bush's way months ago). the few times they've been independently tested before they've shown hours of un-recorded votes, unauthorized modem activity, and other signs of tampering. but EVEN if this election was won fair and square, which i rather doubt, i don't care -- the people and the leadership of this country disgust me, and i see incredibly dangerous trends taking hold. we're going backwards, and it's my country too, i'm entitled to be pissed off as much as anyone else is entitled to be rejoicing. and i am so f***ing pissed off. and i am thankful to see others who sympathize regardless of the forum. jt ps nice words ja'maul. -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 3, 2004 1:23 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Mr. Gianelli, Thank you for the offer, but I think I'll stay. It appears that you aren't accepting of my type. Can I not share a liking of electronic
