(313) Equinox playlist 10-10-04

2004-11-12 Thread Gerald
Well it's been a couple of months now, but the server at
L'Electrique.com has finally been fixed allowing me to do a show.

Download the archive from my site www.gerald-matrix.com/equinox.html  
...if you're so inclined. Just ignore the comments I make about the
sound dropping out for a bit - those were meant for listeners tuning
into the live stream. :)

Here's the playlist

Artist - Title (Label)
Metro Area - Miura (Environ)
John Tejada - Morning Becomes (Palette)
Jeff Mills - Time After Space (Music Man)
Thomas Dolby - Submarines [Ricardo Villalobos mix] (Salz)
Dialogue - Something (Morris/Audio)
Mad Mike - Hi Tech Funk [Sonic Grits mix] (UR)
Hot Butter - Popcorn (Collectables)
Cybotron - Clear (Fantasy)
I-f - Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass (Viewlexx)
Rythim Is Rythim - Nude Photo (RS)
Convextion - Convextion [mix 2] (Matrix)
J Sienkiewicz - 7 (Recognition)
Inner city - Share My Life [Chez D trent Mid Dub] (6x)
Smith N Hack - Ultra-Range Sound Process (Smith N Hack)
Surgeon - East Light EP A2 (Dynamic Tension)
Section 2 - Arise (Dark House)
Los Hermanos - Quetzal (UR)
Conceiled Project - Definition of D EP A2 (Svek)
John Tejada - Old Desire (Organised Noise)
Titonton - Alleyways (2000 Black)
Dan Curtin - Nexus [Common Factor Dirty mix] (Elypsia)
Wall Of Voodoo - Ring of Fire [remix] (Index)
Skinny Puppy - Sleeping Beast (Nettwerk)

Cheers!

G

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Re: (313) Equinox playlist 10-10-04

2004-11-12 Thread David Gillies

That should be:

http://www.gerald-matrix.com/equinox.htm

Gerald wrote:


Well it's been a couple of months now, but the server at
L'Electrique.com has finally been fixed allowing me to do a show.

Download the archive from my site www.gerald-matrix.com/equinox.html  
...if you're so inclined. Just ignore the comments I make about the

sound dropping out for a bit - those were meant for listeners tuning
into the live stream. :)

Here's the playlist

Artist - Title (Label)
Metro Area - Miura (Environ)
John Tejada - Morning Becomes (Palette)
Jeff Mills - Time After Space (Music Man)
Thomas Dolby - Submarines [Ricardo Villalobos mix] (Salz)
Dialogue - Something (Morris/Audio)
Mad Mike - Hi Tech Funk [Sonic Grits mix] (UR)
Hot Butter - Popcorn (Collectables)
Cybotron - Clear (Fantasy)
I-f - Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass (Viewlexx)
Rythim Is Rythim - Nude Photo (RS)
Convextion - Convextion [mix 2] (Matrix)
J Sienkiewicz - 7 (Recognition)
Inner city - Share My Life [Chez D trent Mid Dub] (6x)
Smith N Hack - Ultra-Range Sound Process (Smith N Hack)
Surgeon - East Light EP A2 (Dynamic Tension)
Section 2 - Arise (Dark House)
Los Hermanos - Quetzal (UR)
Conceiled Project - Definition of D EP A2 (Svek)
John Tejada - Old Desire (Organised Noise)
Titonton - Alleyways (2000 Black)
Dan Curtin - Nexus [Common Factor Dirty mix] (Elypsia)
Wall Of Voodoo - Ring of Fire [remix] (Index)
Skinny Puppy - Sleeping Beast (Nettwerk)

Cheers!

G

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event organiser  writer - www.kickmagazine.ca

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Re: (313) Metro Times: Detroit

2004-11-12 Thread /0
maybe I misunderstand you, but its OK for mills to go on and on and on about 
what is basically 4/4 bangers, while hawtin (who IS innovating and changing 
sound through the years) is looked on as getting a bit too wanky?


please correct me (respectfully) if I misunderstand you

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http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=6949

see huge Hawtin cover story. discuss.


Hawtin recommends the tunfisch a l'nero or the wildschweinpfeffer, orders
bottles of an appropriate cabernet, and rapidly begins to choose thoughts
from another palette, this one sonic. He talks to Neumann about making 
music
that, if it's done right, is devoid of directed thinking, entirely driven 
by

impulses that can't be explained, then set free into the unknown. And then
what? Richie Hawtin disappears?

It's kind of like that, Hawtin says. There's no me there anymore. It's
not important for me to control anything. There's nothing conscious about
it. There's no ego in it. He closes his eyes and allows free play to make
the picture clearer. In Detroit you just play; you turn your mind off and
play. Interesting words, especially when they come from a man whose last
series of Detroit-based parties was known as Control.

This stuff interests me, but I don't like that the aritcle makes it sound
like a new groundbreaking thought, or that all DJs don't experience this 
in
some degree, or producers (likely) even more so. It's this *immersion* 
that

has always appealed most to me about both activities. If you follow Sartre
(who I think probed this best), he'd say it's pre-reflective 
consciousness,
and that this is what actually defines us objectively, rather than our 
ego.
In other, much simpler terms, I like to think of it like being 'in the 
zone'
when playing a sport, writing code, knitting, meditating or whatever. 
People
achieve this egoless state through lots of different means, and the idea 
is

anything but new.

There's a Derek Jarman movie on Michaelangelo de Caravaggio
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090798/, called Caravaggio oddly enough) 
that
has a chunk of it devoted to the painting where a lizard is biting his 
hand

with the paint brush, which is meant to symbolise the moment when he steps
back from the canvas, shifting from immersive to specular. I'm sure that
anyone who has spent 3 or 4 hours in front of their gear or a computer
working on a track knows this feeling, when your mind shifts into 
'critical

listener mode' rather than creator. It's not like Hawtin has discovered an
enlightened mode of being or anything, he's just found something he can
focus on.

Given that this is the starting point for the artistic angle of this
article, it feels way too overblown. Why the need for the added
significance? Can't good music just be good music without dressing it up? 
It
seems to me this article is a prime example of why throwing out lofty 
ideas

in journalism is generally a bad idea. I mean, does anyone who's actually
read Hegel think the paragraph on him in this article is that compelling,
completely removed from the history of philosophy, and does anyone who
hasn't read him give a sh*t?

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Re: (313) TONIGHT in D-TOWN

2004-11-12 Thread James Hurlbut




[known as Detroit's Rich Medina]


Is Rich Medina's style really that distinct? The sets I've heard seem like 
an interesting blend of soul, house and r+b mixed well together, but 
nothing that a ton of local jocks aren't doing in most cities. 



Re: (313) Metro Times: Detroit

2004-11-12 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
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maybe I misunderstand you, but its OK for mills to go on and on 
and on about 
what is basically 4/4 bangers, while hawtin (who IS innovating 
and changing 
sound through the years) is looked on as getting a bit too wanky?

well, he sure is changing. if you call it innovation, i guess 
thats a judgement call. i call it devolution. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


RE: (313) Scorpio (was RE: (313) These Go up to 11)

2004-11-12 Thread Mann, Ravinder
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Anyone catch a listen to the Plaid remix of Scorpio from their compilation.
It sounds tough, sheets of electro bass busting the speaker. The tension
just builds and builds.

I've heard it at 20. My amp goes to 30. It weights a ton.

Rav 

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Of course, Duran Duran did a better job of it.
;)

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 Also, there's Scorpio by Grandmaster Flash and the Furious
 Five. A track that sounds like it was created in a semi-legal 
 funk research laboratory, way ahead of its time and devastating 
 when loud.
 
 that track is so excellent. did it ever come out on 12?

This is the piece of vinyl you want...

http://www.discogs.com/release/125360

Strange to think that the A side track is so much more high- profile than
Scorpio - it's pretty overrated, in my 
opinion.

Brendan

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RE: (313) Juan Atkins

2004-11-12 Thread alex . bond
Glad you like Paul!!!

Thats a pretty strong compliment there!!

Hey - send me that track...

(and tell me about the warehouse)

: )




   
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This ep ranks along side model 500 on transmat..may even be better...
time will tell

Thnks senor Bond...

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 Hello List.
 Back to work. Great.

 Anyway, BT wrote:
 Just noticed that Piccadilly have samples up for the new
 Juan Atkins -
 Fast Forward EP on New Religion. I assume this is the one
 that Mr Bond
 has been dropping hints about for a while (Alex?). It sounds
 incredible, cant wait to pick up a copy this week (Jason -
 you guys got
 this is stock?)

 Yes! This is the one I've been banging on about!

 Check check check! It's 4 tracks of brilliant detroit techno.
 Can't see what there is not to like about it!

 I love it anyway.

 BT, I reckon Rubadub should have it, they're distributing it.

 OUT NOW! BUY ONE, SAVE MY SORRY ASS

Just giving it the first proper listen, and am pretty stunned. It's
wicked.
Each of the four tracks as good as the last. I'm sure a favourite will
emerge, but at the moment they're all sounding great to my ears. I was
pretty hyped about all the recent stuff (less so the one on Metroplex
than
the others), but this blows them away.

Jason, I bet you really like this. Lots of pitch slides done well. And I
know how you like your slides. ;)

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Re: (313) Metro Times: Detroit

2004-11-12 Thread Tristan Watkins
On Fri Nov 12  5:13 , '/0' [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

maybe I misunderstand you, but its OK for mills to go on and on and on about 
what is basically 4/4 bangers, while hawtin (who IS innovating and changing 
sound through the years) is looked on as getting a bit too wanky?

please correct me (respectfully) if I misunderstand you

Well, I never said anything about Mills, but I'd level the same criticism if he 
was saying that what he does achieves something grand, rather than saying that 
he achieves inspiration from grand ideas. And for the record, I wasn't so much 
having a go at Hawtin as the author of the article. who seemed to want to make 
it 
all seem earth-shattering. On Fri Nov 12  5:13 , '/0' [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

maybe I misunderstand you, but its OK for mills to go on and on and on about 
what is basically 4/4 bangers, while hawtin (who IS innovating and changing 
sound through the years) is looked on as getting a bit too wanky?

please correct me (respectfully) if I misunderstand you

Well, I never said anything about Mills, but I'd level the same criticism if he 
was saying that what he does achieves something grand, rather than saying that 
he achieves inspiration from grand ideas (which is generally how I read his 
pontifications). And for the record, I wasn't so much having a go at Hawtin as 
the 
author of the article, who seemed to want to make it all earth-shattering 
(although I do think Hawtin has a tendency to get caught up in philosophical 
flavours 
of the month, from what I can glean from interviews). And this is not to say 
there isn't significance to the events we witness in a club, nor that some 
projects 
can't achieve lofty aspirations, but I don't like the idea that we need to 
intellectualise music in order to give it *extra* importance. Music *is* very 
important, but it doesn't need the window-dressing to make it more than what we 
experience in the immediate, in 99.99% of the cases. 

Tristan 


(313) Friday treat for the balearic heads

2004-11-12 Thread alex . bond
1) Sorry about that last post, it was supposed to be a private one

OK, on with the post:

One of my favourite mixes of the year came from this site, and it was
Harvey, live in San Diego. Beautiful trippy downtempo s**t. Really blissed
out. Just a cd that always put me in a good mood.

Today there's a new one! So, I'm happy. If it's even half as good as the
last one, I recommend it. You can grab it here:

www.loungecandelas-sd.com/Harvey_101604_Pt_1/Harvey_101604.mp3

www.loungecandelas-sd.com/Harvey_101604_Pt_2/Harvey_101604_Part_2.mp3

And, also, I think I have Harvey to thank for really getting me into the
latest Kraftwerk LP. I got the LP when it came out, listened a few times
and didn't pick it up again. But, that last Harvey mix from San Diego had
the track Vitamin, and I've hardly stopped listening to it, so I went
back to the LP and found it a whole different experience. That track
Vitamin is definitely in my techno top 5 for this year. It's awesome. The
production, the little subtle melodies. It's the bomb.

Alex


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RE: (313) Friday treat for the balearic heads

2004-11-12 Thread Robert Taylor
Cheers for that link Alex - my Friday is now a happier one.

Not 313 either but lots of fantastic music here:
http://www.sixmillionsteps.com/
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1) Sorry about that last post, it was supposed to be a private one

OK, on with the post:

One of my favourite mixes of the year came from this site, and it was
Harvey, live in San Diego. Beautiful trippy downtempo s**t. Really blissed
out. Just a cd that always put me in a good mood.

Today there's a new one! So, I'm happy. If it's even half as good as the
last one, I recommend it. You can grab it here:

www.loungecandelas-sd.com/Harvey_101604_Pt_1/Harvey_101604.mp3

www.loungecandelas-sd.com/Harvey_101604_Pt_2/Harvey_101604_Part_2.mp3

And, also, I think I have Harvey to thank for really getting me into the
latest Kraftwerk LP. I got the LP when it came out, listened a few times
and didn't pick it up again. But, that last Harvey mix from San Diego had
the track Vitamin, and I've hardly stopped listening to it, so I went
back to the LP and found it a whole different experience. That track
Vitamin is definitely in my techno top 5 for this year. It's awesome. The
production, the little subtle melodies. It's the bomb.

Alex


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(313) Respect

2004-11-12 Thread Martin Dust

Wotcha list...

It's John Peel's funeral today, tip him a nod and play something 
loud


Martin



RE: (313) Scorpio (was RE: (313) These Go up to 11)

2004-11-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wouldnt you rather just listen to the liquid liquid track instead? 

White lines is just a good sing-a-long tune!



RE: (313) These Go up to 11

2004-11-12 Thread Cobert, Gwendal
Time to get your hands on the Spinal Tap DVD...
Gwendal

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 I want to join in, but my stereo volume only goes up to 10.
 
 What should I do?
 
 seek help?
 
 Alex
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Re: (313) Respect

2004-11-12 Thread alex . bond
Wotcha list...

Hello Martin

It's John Peel's funeral today, tip him a nod and play something
loud

Can't play anything loud, but I've took my hat off.
A sad day. RIP Mr Peel. You'll be sorely missed. I can't think of anyone
that made a greater contribution to independent music in this country.

On another note, I was reading on a forum about replacements for John Peel.
Rob Da Bank is standing in for now.

Of course, you could never replace Mr Peel, and shouldn't try to, but
someone said How about Andrew Weatherall.

What a call. I'd be hard pushed to think of anyone better.

Alex




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RE: (313) These Go up to 11

2004-11-12 Thread Cobert, Gwendal
 Yeah, love that Sabres track as well, maybe I prefer Inter-Lergen though.. Re, 
Orbital, I guess you're talking about the Belfast/Wasted mix that's something 
like 10 minutes long ?
Gwendal

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 Olala, i looove this one...
 It used to be our track ...me and my girlfriend.
 Its a whole fairy world, so magic.
 The kind of track that inevitably bring tears to my eyes.
 
 My choice would be :
 Orbital - Midnight, followed by Belfast.
 
 - KiDDy.
 
 
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  but my all time fav I guess is Sabres of Paradise - Smokebelch II
 
 
 
 


(313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread alex . bond
Hi Folks.

Sorry to ask this here. I honestly don't know who else to ask. And you're a
very knowledgeable bunch.

So, first off a confession. (I don't feel good about this btw, I know it's
wrong)

I have been using a copy of Ableton Live for the past 6 months. Let me just
defend myself. A friend gave me a copy, basically a try before you buy type
deal as I was getting my new computer soon, and didn't want to have to buy
another copy. Obviously I've got right into it.

My new computer has arrived, and I'm keeping it just for music, can't put
it on the internet cos I dont what I'm doing and I'll probably get a virus
or something.
I'm transferring my 300 odd WAV files over.

I went to the music shop the other day to talk to the guy about buying
Ableton 4. £269.99!

I don't mind paying it at all, it's just I simply don't have it at the
minute. I'm going to sell records at the end of the month and put some
towards it out of my wages.

Basically, I have 2 gigs I'd like to use it for before I get paid. The guy
in the shop gave me a demo disc, and this version allows you to do most
things, but not save anything. I don't really need to save anything.

Do you think I'll be OK to use the demo version for a gig?

Is that wise do you think? Will it crash or something? Is there any other
way round it?I won't need to save anything for the gig I wouldn't have
thought would I? I tend to do most things 'on the fly' with it anyway.

What do you think?

Any help and advice would be much appreciated.

Alex
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Re: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread Martin Dust
ermmm NO - because you can't like save - unless you are planning to 
turn up early and beat match and set your settell me if you are 
Alex I'd like to watch



On 12 Nov 2004, at 13:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Folks.

Sorry to ask this here. I honestly don't know who else to ask. And 
you're a

very knowledgeable bunch.

So, first off a confession. (I don't feel good about this btw, I know 
it's

wrong)

I have been using a copy of Ableton Live for the past 6 months. Let me 
just
defend myself. A friend gave me a copy, basically a try before you buy 
type
deal as I was getting my new computer soon, and didn't want to have to 
buy

another copy. Obviously I've got right into it.

My new computer has arrived, and I'm keeping it just for music, can't 
put
it on the internet cos I dont what I'm doing and I'll probably get a 
virus

or something.
I'm transferring my 300 odd WAV files over.

I went to the music shop the other day to talk to the guy about buying
Ableton 4. £269.99!

I don't mind paying it at all, it's just I simply don't have it at the
minute. I'm going to sell records at the end of the month and put some
towards it out of my wages.

Basically, I have 2 gigs I'd like to use it for before I get paid. The 
guy

in the shop gave me a demo disc, and this version allows you to do most
things, but not save anything. I don't really need to save anything.

Do you think I'll be OK to use the demo version for a gig?

Is that wise do you think? Will it crash or something? Is there any 
other

way round it?I won't need to save anything for the gig I wouldn't have
thought would I? I tend to do most things 'on the fly' with it anyway.

What do you think?

Any help and advice would be much appreciated.

Alex
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RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread Brendan Nelson
Hmmm... if Alex already has all the meta-files (the .asd ones with 
the same names as the .wav files), then that's not an issue. I recently 
had the demo of Ableton 4 and was using my WAV collection with no problems. 
(I bought it after ten minutes - it's a huge leap forward from 3. But 
wasn't so pricey for me as I was just upgrading)

However, if you're planning to warp new WAVs and save the meta-files 
using the demo version then you might be on shaky ground. I don't think 
I've warped WAV files in demo versions of Ableton before.

The main thing is that you don't need to save Ableton files (the .als
ones) to preserve the warping information for WAVs. Warping information 
for WAVs is contained in the .asd files, which can be read by any 
version of Ableton, whether 3 or 4.

Alex, do you already have all the WAVs that you're going to use 
in your set?

Brendan

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 ermmm NO - because you can't like save - unless you are planning to 
 turn up early and beat match and set your settell me if you are 
 Alex I'd like to watch
 
 
 On 12 Nov 2004, at 13:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Folks.
 
  Sorry to ask this here. I honestly don't know who else to ask. And 
  you're a
  very knowledgeable bunch.
 
  So, first off a confession. (I don't feel good about this 
 btw, I know 
  it's
  wrong)
 
  I have been using a copy of Ableton Live for the past 6 
 months. Let me 
  just
  defend myself. A friend gave me a copy, basically a try 
 before you buy 
  type
  deal as I was getting my new computer soon, and didn't want 
 to have to 
  buy
  another copy. Obviously I've got right into it.
 
  My new computer has arrived, and I'm keeping it just for 
 music, can't 
  put
  it on the internet cos I dont what I'm doing and I'll 
 probably get a 
  virus
  or something.
  I'm transferring my 300 odd WAV files over.
 
  I went to the music shop the other day to talk to the guy 
 about buying
  Ableton 4. £269.99!
 
  I don't mind paying it at all, it's just I simply don't 
 have it at the
  minute. I'm going to sell records at the end of the month 
 and put some
  towards it out of my wages.
 
  Basically, I have 2 gigs I'd like to use it for before I 
 get paid. The 
  guy
  in the shop gave me a demo disc, and this version allows 
 you to do most
  things, but not save anything. I don't really need to save anything.
 
  Do you think I'll be OK to use the demo version for a gig?
 
  Is that wise do you think? Will it crash or something? Is there any 
  other
  way round it?I won't need to save anything for the gig I 
 wouldn't have
  thought would I? I tend to do most things 'on the fly' with 
 it anyway.
 
  What do you think?
 
  Any help and advice would be much appreciated.
 
  Alex
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Re: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread Edward George
unless of course you have all the .asd files with all the warping set
from your previous 'trial' version


On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:00:52 +, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ermmm NO - because you can't like save - unless you are planning to
 turn up early and beat match and set your settell me if you are
 Alex I'd like to watch
 
 
 
 
 On 12 Nov 2004, at 13:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Folks.
 
  Sorry to ask this here. I honestly don't know who else to ask. And
  you're a
  very knowledgeable bunch.
 
  So, first off a confession. (I don't feel good about this btw, I know
  it's
  wrong)
 
  I have been using a copy of Ableton Live for the past 6 months. Let me
  just
  defend myself. A friend gave me a copy, basically a try before you buy
  type
  deal as I was getting my new computer soon, and didn't want to have to
  buy
  another copy. Obviously I've got right into it.
 
  My new computer has arrived, and I'm keeping it just for music, can't
  put
  it on the internet cos I dont what I'm doing and I'll probably get a
  virus
  or something.
  I'm transferring my 300 odd WAV files over.
 
  I went to the music shop the other day to talk to the guy about buying
  Ableton 4. £269.99!
 
  I don't mind paying it at all, it's just I simply don't have it at the
  minute. I'm going to sell records at the end of the month and put some
  towards it out of my wages.
 
  Basically, I have 2 gigs I'd like to use it for before I get paid. The
  guy
  in the shop gave me a demo disc, and this version allows you to do most
  things, but not save anything. I don't really need to save anything.
 
  Do you think I'll be OK to use the demo version for a gig?
 
  Is that wise do you think? Will it crash or something? Is there any
  other
  way round it?I won't need to save anything for the gig I wouldn't have
  thought would I? I tend to do most things 'on the fly' with it anyway.
 
  What do you think?
 
  Any help and advice would be much appreciated.
 
  Alex
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(313) Late night Session Vol 1

2004-11-12 Thread placid
Did this very late last night...  the levels are all over the shop, the
mixing disappears into non existance with fading in and out taking over
..  it's recorded too low but hey..i like it..it has a kind of san
francisco meets detroit with abit of acid thrown in for good
measureeverything is recently acquired  some of it old some new...

enjoy

http://www.acidmixes.com

mail me for track id's should anyone decide to take it upon themselves
to d/l it...




Re: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread alex . bond
ermmm NO - because you can't like save - unless you are planning to
turn up early and beat match and set your settell me if you are
Alex I'd like to watch

Yeah, but you can use files that are already marked down right?

I always start with a blank screen. Only things that are saved are the warp
markers, and occasionally some loops, but I usually do most of the loops on
the fly too.

And I don't ever save anything, so...

So, what would I need to save I guess is my question?

God, I hope I can find something to make it work. Any other ideas? Any
other possible way round it all?

Alex
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Re: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread Edward George
you might want to record it all to the timeline so that you have the
raw stuff for tweaking and rendering later maybe...


On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:09:45 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ermmm NO - because you can't like save - unless you are planning to
 turn up early and beat match and set your settell me if you are
 Alex I'd like to watch
 
 Yeah, but you can use files that are already marked down right?
 
 I always start with a blank screen. Only things that are saved are the warp
 markers, and occasionally some loops, but I usually do most of the loops on
 the fly too.
 
 And I don't ever save anything, so...
 
 So, what would I need to save I guess is my question?
 
 God, I hope I can find something to make it work. Any other ideas? Any
 other possible way round it all?
 
 
 
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Re: (313) Respect

2004-11-12 Thread carl plugtwo
In recent years, Radio 1's policy when changing an important show has 
been to hire a temporary stooge to stand in. They take the heat for a 
month or two and then the saviour is brought in.


DJ Da Bank to fill John Peel slot
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3992703.stm

Peel's production staff remain, so some of the music policy is retained. 
Although time will tell if Rob Da Bank stays.


Let's have a minute's noise in memory of John Peel.


carl morris
Plug Two
t +442920190151

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Wotcha list...



Hello Martin



It's John Peel's funeral today, tip him a nod and play something
loud



Can't play anything loud, but I've took my hat off.
A sad day. RIP Mr Peel. You'll be sorely missed. I can't think of anyone
that made a greater contribution to independent music in this country.

On another note, I was reading on a forum about replacements for John Peel.
Rob Da Bank is standing in for now.

Of course, you could never replace Mr Peel, and shouldn't try to, but
someone said How about Andrew Weatherall.

What a call. I'd be hard pushed to think of anyone better.

Alex


RE: (313) Cristian Vogel vs. Detroit

2004-11-12 Thread Cobert, Gwendal
 yup - he's even been seen on stage with the Chicks (and it wasn't too good), 
something like 15 months ago.
Gwendal

 -Message d'origine-
 De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Envoyé : Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:45 PM
 À : '313'
 Objet : (313) Cristian Vogel vs. Detroit
 
 Okay,
 So I kind of slept on Super Conductor originally and for some 
 reason have decided to give their albums another listen, 
 and... actually that stuff totally blows me away!  It's amazing...
 
 So I was thinking, what would be really really hot, would be 
 if Cristian Vogel produced:
 1. An Amp Fiddler album
 2. A Prince album
 3. Something with Blake Baxter talking on the top
 
 What does everyone think?
 
 I guess he is producing (or already did) the new Chicks on 
 Speed as well, which sounds like it could be very 
 interesting.  Maybe this is already out on promo?
 
 ~David
 
 


RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread Brendan Nelson
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 12 November 2004 14:10
 
 So, what would I need to save I guess is my question?

Apart from when I use it to do re-edits or new tracks, 
the only times I save things in Ableton is when I want 
to set up a blank screen which has loads of keyboard 
and MIDI shortcuts programmed into it. I won't go into 
depth about how I've got it set up, but pretty much 
every key on the keyboard has some sort of function 
(unmute Send 1, play clip B3, etc etc) so that it 
can be controlled without using the mouse. But a lot 
of the time I just start with a blank screen myself 
and just set that stuff up as I go.

You *can* use it with files you've already marked/warped 
up, so no worries there! It *might* be tricky if you 
want to mark/warp new files with that demo version, but 
if all your tracks are already done then I reckon you'll 
be OK.

Brendan


Re: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread Matt Kane

At 08:56 AM 11/12/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Do you think I'll be OK to use the demo version for a gig?


ableton actually recommends that you carry the demo version on CD with you 
to gigs. it's fully functional so if your computer craps out you can use 
someone else's and not have to worry about getting a new license. 
obviously, the only thing you can't do is save

--
Matt Kane
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: (313) Equinox playlist 10-10-04

2004-11-12 Thread Gerald
I suck... sorry!  :)

Thanks David!

Enjoy

G

-Original Message-
From: David Gillies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:10 PM
To: Gerald
Cc: '313'
Subject: Re: (313) Equinox playlist 10-10-04

That should be:

http://www.gerald-matrix.com/equinox.htm 

Gerald wrote:

Well it's been a couple of months now, but the server at
L'Electrique.com has finally been fixed allowing me to do a show.

Download the archive from my site www.gerald-matrix.com/equinox.html  
...if you're so inclined. Just ignore the comments I make about the
sound dropping out for a bit - those were meant for listeners tuning
into the live stream. :)

Here's the playlist

Artist - Title (Label)
Metro Area - Miura (Environ)
John Tejada - Morning Becomes (Palette)
Jeff Mills - Time After Space (Music Man)
Thomas Dolby - Submarines [Ricardo Villalobos mix] (Salz)
Dialogue - Something (Morris/Audio)
Mad Mike - Hi Tech Funk [Sonic Grits mix] (UR)
Hot Butter - Popcorn (Collectables)
Cybotron - Clear (Fantasy)
I-f - Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass (Viewlexx)
Rythim Is Rythim - Nude Photo (RS)
Convextion - Convextion [mix 2] (Matrix)
J Sienkiewicz - 7 (Recognition)
Inner city - Share My Life [Chez D trent Mid Dub] (6x)
Smith N Hack - Ultra-Range Sound Process (Smith N Hack)
Surgeon - East Light EP A2 (Dynamic Tension)
Section 2 - Arise (Dark House)
Los Hermanos - Quetzal (UR)
Conceiled Project - Definition of D EP A2 (Svek)
John Tejada - Old Desire (Organised Noise)
Titonton - Alleyways (2000 Black)
Dan Curtin - Nexus [Common Factor Dirty mix] (Elypsia)
Wall Of Voodoo - Ring of Fire [remix] (Index)
Skinny Puppy - Sleeping Beast (Nettwerk)

Cheers!

G

--
website: www.gerald-matrix.com 
event organiser  writer - www.kickmagazine.ca
host of 'equinox radio' on l'electrique @ www.netmusique.com
member - P U SHER www.pusher.foundationmusic.com


  




RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread alex . bond
Brilliant. Huge Thanks Folks.

So, just so I have this right. I already have my wavs and asd's, so there
shouldn't be any other problems right?

And, I'd forgotten about this before - but I'm going to have to map all my
midi and keys on the night, and do my settings there and then as I won't be
able to set my preferences right?

eek.

that the only thing?

Thanks

Alex

p.s. If there's anyone from ableton reading this, I do feel genuine guilt
over using a copy for a little while. But you got a new customer out of it
anyway. Every cloud has a silver lining.
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Re: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread alex . bond
ableton actually recommends that you carry the demo version on CD with you

to gigs.

Matt, that's EXACTLY what I wanted to hear!

Thanks

Alex
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Re: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread alex . bond
Heh.

I'm just transferring my files across to a hard disk.

There's stuff I have that I forgot was on there.

Just found one BBC Sound Effects - Tardis Taking off, b/w Tardis Landing

heh heh heh heh heh heh.

*evil laugh*
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Re: Re: (313) These Go up to 11

2004-11-12 Thread Fabrizio Nahum
the top 3 of today:
1. mmm - donna
2. fix - flash
3. robert hood - rhythm of vision



(313) environ release.

2004-11-12 Thread lee herrington

I just wanna say yeah, for the new Kelley Polar Quartet EP.  gorgeous and
sublime string work.  funky too.  I spent a good 45min coloring with my 5yr
old son while we listened to the rococo EP.  highly recommended.

Cheers,

lee r. herrington
u store it
technical support specialist

440-260-2245 




Re: (313) environ release.

2004-11-12 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: lee herrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I just wanna say yeah, for the new Kelley Polar Quartet EP.  
gorgeous and
sublime string work.  funky too.  I spent a good 45min coloring 
with my 5yr
old son while we listened to the rococo EP.  highly recommended.

the b side is definitely in my top 3 techno tracks for the year. 
it doesnt really sound like anything else i have or anything else 
ive heard. its superminimal with just a beat and strings. f*cking 
brilliant, IMO. after listening to it a couple times, i find the a 
side to be almost boring in comparison. but just for the b-side id 
call this a must have record. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


RE: (313) Cristian Vogel vs. Detroit

2004-11-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From the live clips I heard of Chicks on Speed, they should stick with making 
records as the sound was a little sketchy... So hopefully the album is good, 
regardless of what you heard at that time!
~David

-- Original Message -
Subject: RE: (313) Cristian Vogel vs. Detroit
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:14:41 -0600
From: Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 313@hyperreal.org


 yup - he's even been seen on stage with the Chicks (and it wasn't too good), 
something like 15 months ago.
Gwendal

 -Message d'origine-
 De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Envoyé : Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:45 PM
 À : '313'
 Objet : (313) Cristian Vogel vs. Detroit
 
 Okay,
 So I kind of slept on Super Conductor originally and for some 
 reason have decided to give their albums another listen, 
 and... actually that stuff totally blows me away!  It's amazing...
 
 So I was thinking, what would be really really hot, would be 
 if Cristian Vogel produced:
 1. An Amp Fiddler album
 2. A Prince album
 3. Something with Blake Baxter talking on the top
 
 What does everyone think?
 
 I guess he is producing (or already did) the new Chicks on 
 Speed as well, which sounds like it could be very 
 interesting.  Maybe this is already out on promo?
 
 ~David
 
 





RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On a side note, when I pull in tracks that I've already warped in other sets, 
the warp markers don't seem to show up, and I still have to rewarp them. Am I 
doing something wrong? Usually the way I do it is copy the .wav and .asd file 
into the directory I use for the set, and Ableton shows a symbol that seems to 
imply it recognizes the .asd file, but when I pull it in - no warp.

It's not a big deal but it means I DO have to save the sets with the clips I 
plan to use, so that I have a seperate house and techno set right now. 
Obviously, it would be much more flexible to start with a blank interface and 
pull in any clips I want for a set out of a library of warped clips. I do 
something similar to Brendan also, saving keystrokes as well as Midi slider and 
knob functions for mixing.

~David

-- Original Message -
Subject: RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:18:29 -
From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 12 November 2004 14:10
 
 So, what would I need to save I guess is my question?

Apart from when I use it to do re-edits or new tracks, 
the only times I save things in Ableton is when I want 
to set up a blank screen which has loads of keyboard 
and MIDI shortcuts programmed into it. I won't go into 
depth about how I've got it set up, but pretty much 
every key on the keyboard has some sort of function 
(unmute Send 1, play clip B3, etc etc) so that it 
can be controlled without using the mouse. But a lot 
of the time I just start with a blank screen myself 
and just set that stuff up as I go.

You *can* use it with files you've already marked/warped 
up, so no worries there! It *might* be tricky if you 
want to mark/warp new files with that demo version, but 
if all your tracks are already done then I reckon you'll 
be OK.

Brendan





Re: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread Edward George
you have to click on the little save button hidden in the sample panel
with all the buttons which save the warp markers to the asd
otherwise i believe it only saves the waveform representation


On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:42:59 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On a side note, when I pull in tracks that I've already warped in other sets, 
 the warp markers don't seem to show up, and I still have to rewarp them. Am I 
 doing something wrong? Usually the way I do it is copy the .wav and .asd file 
 into the directory I use for the set, and Ableton shows a symbol that seems 
 to imply it recognizes the .asd file, but when I pull it in - no warp.
 
 It's not a big deal but it means I DO have to save the sets with the clips I 
 plan to use, so that I have a seperate house and techno set right now. 
 Obviously, it would be much more flexible to start with a blank interface and 
 pull in any clips I want for a set out of a library of warped clips. I do 
 something similar to Brendan also, saving keystrokes as well as Midi slider 
 and knob functions for mixing.
 
 ~David
 
 
 
 -- Original Message -
 Subject: RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help
 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:18:29 -
 From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 12 November 2004 14:10
 
  So, what would I need to save I guess is my question?
 
 Apart from when I use it to do re-edits or new tracks,
 the only times I save things in Ableton is when I want
 to set up a blank screen which has loads of keyboard
 and MIDI shortcuts programmed into it. I won't go into
 depth about how I've got it set up, but pretty much
 every key on the keyboard has some sort of function
 (unmute Send 1, play clip B3, etc etc) so that it
 can be controlled without using the mouse. But a lot
 of the time I just start with a blank screen myself
 and just set that stuff up as I go.
 
 You *can* use it with files you've already marked/warped
 up, so no worries there! It *might* be tricky if you
 want to mark/warp new files with that demo version, but
 if all your tracks are already done then I reckon you'll
 be OK.
 
 Brendan
 



RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help

2004-11-12 Thread alex . bond
On a side note, when I pull in tracks that I've already warped in other
sets, the warp markers don't seem to show up, and I still have to rewarp
them. Am I doing something wrong? Usually the way I do it is copy the .wav
and .asd file into the directory I use for the set, and Ableton shows a
symbol that seems to imply it recognizes the .asd file, but when I pull it
in - no warp.

David.

Is there a possibility you're saving/moving/copying them as 'read only'
files?
they don't work then for some reason - not sure why.

But you SHOULD definitely be able to save them and use them whenever.

Maybe others might know more?

Alex
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Re: (313) japanese gentleman

2004-11-12 Thread Greg Earle

On Nov 11, 2004, at 17:13 PM, Bond ... Alex Bond wrote:

does anyone know what this says?

or, does anyone know where I can translate japanese to english?

http://www.cisco-records.co.jp/cgi/title/techno/detail_119786.php


This is the Japanese translation page I use:

http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/

Paste the URL into the box.  Underneath it, you'll see two radio
buttons; the left one is selected by default.  That's English to
Japanese - so click the right one instead.  Then, next to that
is a pull-down menu with two entries.  The top-most one is selected
by default.  Choose the bottom one.  (That selects superimposing
the English translation - in green - with the Japanese original,
which gives context.)  Then just click on the button next to the
URL box that's inside the burnt ochre/orange box.

That'll take you to this direct URL:

http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/body/? 
wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco- 
records.co.jp%2Fcgi%2Ftitle%2Ftechno%2Fdetail_119786.phpsubmit=%83E%83F 
%83u%83y%81%5B%83W%96%7C%96%F3wb_lp=JAENwb_dis=3wb_co=excitejapan


In which we find

Mr. magnate HOAN who returned the base to Detroit again releases a work
 in succession.  It is the good work which shows the wonderful whole
 surface different from the work as which the mellow work which made
 full use of a lyricism-melody made time the same at the center, and
 was announced in the Model 500 name from the own label Metoroplex
 again.  An initial Detroit lyricism-place is evolved further, and the
 melody on which the refined beauty drifts invites impression, so that
 it is heard and crowded.

So Atkins must mean magnate in Japan ;-)

- Greg



Re: (313) environ release.

2004-11-12 Thread Matt MacQueen


On Nov 12, 2004, at 9:33 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:


-- Original Message --
From: lee herrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I just wanna say yeah, for the new Kelley Polar Quartet EP.  gorgeous 
and
sublime string work.  funky too.  I spent a good 45min coloring with 
my 5yr

old son while we listened to the rococo EP.  highly recommended.


the b side is definitely in my top 3 techno tracks for the year.
it doesnt really sound like anything else i have or anything else
ive heard. its superminimal with just a beat and strings. f*cking
brilliant, IMO. after listening to it a couple times, i find the a
side to be almost boring in comparison. but just for the b-side id
call this a must have record.


yes this is awesome..  but i like both sides.  I think the b-side track 
is simply titled Maurizio?  You can hear the influence in the 
bassline and beats.. but the string arrangements on top are all Kelley 
Polar, gorgeous and unique.  All you Basic Channel / M label fans need 
to check this out release for the latest reach of where their sound has 
influenced and planted yet more seeds of greatness in next generation 
artists.  But it's so much more than that influence.  A true unique 
gem.


peace

--
Matt MacQueen
http://SonicSunset.com



Re: (313) environ release.

2004-11-12 Thread Matt MacQueen


yes this is awesome..  but i like both sides.  I think the b-side 
track is simply titled Maurizio?  You can hear the influence in the 
bassline and beats.. but the string arrangements on top are all Kelley 
Polar, gorgeous and unique.  All you Basic Channel / M label fans need 
to check this out release for the latest reach of where their sound 
has influenced and planted yet more seeds of greatness in next 
generation artists.  But it's so much more than that influence.  A 
true unique gem.


i should add to my previous comments that the title Maurizio could be a 
completely different italian or other reference intended by the title 
(if you actually ascribe any meanings to track titles in dance music.. 
for that matter) but personally I hear a connection to M-series kind of 
sounds in the beats.


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Re: (313) environ release.

2004-11-12 Thread alex . bond
rococo EP

I need this record.

Hey, did anyone get the unclassics cd?
I got it for my birthday.

IT'S ACE. BUY ONE.

I nicked those Humanoid beats for my Ableton too

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RE: (313) environ release.

2004-11-12 Thread Cobert, Gwendal
Yeah, totally - a couple of the new tracks (Victor, Zodiac) have already been 
on heavy rotation in my walkman for the past week, and I envy those who will 
discover tracks like Margharitas or Dance Reaction or Pluton (which were 
already on the EPs)...
Gwendal 

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 rococo EP
 
 I need this record.
 
 Hey, did anyone get the unclassics cd?
 I got it for my birthday.
 
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 I nicked those Humanoid beats for my Ableton too
 
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RE: (313) environ release.

2004-11-12 Thread alex . bond
Gwendal.

You just reminded me of something

Zodiac

Is that that crazy latvian electronic disco thing from early 80's?

I'm sure that was called Zodiac.

Alex
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Re: (313) environ release.

2004-11-12 Thread Matt MacQueen


On Nov 12, 2004, at 10:40 AM, Cobert, Gwendal wrote:

and I envy those who will discover tracks like Margharitas or Dance 
Reaction or Pluton (which were already on the EPs)...


speaking of discovering other EPs, Metro Area #5, previously only 
available on vinyl.. can now be bought digitally at iTunes for all the 
non-vinyl peoples of the world.   Dunno how to send a link to it, but 
if you search iTunes music store for METRO AREA, voila..   Proton Candy 
and Nerves.




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RE: (313) environ release.

2004-11-12 Thread Cobert, Gwendal
Wasn't vol 6 also due anytime soon ?
Gwendal

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 On Nov 12, 2004, at 10:40 AM, Cobert, Gwendal wrote:
 
  and I envy those who will discover tracks like Margharitas or Dance 
  Reaction or Pluton (which were already on the EPs)...
 
 speaking of discovering other EPs, Metro Area #5, previously 
 only available on vinyl.. can now be bought digitally at 
 iTunes for all the 
 non-vinyl peoples of the world.   Dunno how to send a link to it, but 
 if you search iTunes music store for METRO AREA, voila..   
 Proton Candy 
 and Nerves.
 
 
 
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Re: (313) environ release.

2004-11-12 Thread Matt Kane

At 11:52 AM 11/12/2004, Matt MacQueen wrote:
speaking of discovering other EPs, Metro Area #5, previously only 
available on vinyl.. can now be bought digitally at iTunes for all the 
non-vinyl peoples of the world.   Dunno how to send a link to it, but if 
you search iTunes music store for METRO AREA, voila..   Proton Candy and 
Nerves.


BAM: http://www.apple.com/itunes/linkmaker/


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(313) John Peel's funeral

2004-11-12 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/photo_gallery/4006879.stm

amazing number of people
truly wish I could have been there

MEK



Re: (313) John Peel's funeral

2004-11-12 Thread alex . bond
The sight of that coffin makes me feel a little sick.

RIP Mr Peel
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Re: (313) environ release.

2004-11-12 Thread Matt MacQueen

On Nov 12, 2004, at 10:51 AM, Cobert, Gwendal wrote:


Wasn't vol 6 also due anytime soon ?



nope i don't think it's even in the works (as of now).. But DO be on 
the lookout for a new Jersey Devil Social Club 12-inch dropping very 
soon...  a remake (with vocals!  plus a dub version b-side) of famous 
old cut Magnifique, real popular in the early pre-house daze, played 
a lot by Ron Hardy..


superb production, funky as hell, more goodies from Environ in the 
future/past style



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RE: (313) John Peel's funeral

2004-11-12 Thread Robert Taylor
Eek!
Jack White is looking a bit like Jacko there

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RE: (313) John Peel's funeral

2004-11-12 Thread Cobert, Gwendal
The coffin's arrival - and departure to the sound of Teenage Kicks by The 
Undertones
Perfect
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(313) Nice mix site with Detroit/Warp/RePHLeX/old school flava

2004-11-12 Thread Greg Earle

Lots of good mixes (good playlists, if not always good mixing ;) ) here:

http://www.beatsinspace.net/

Apparently run by some guy in NYC named Tim Sweeney - he opened for
U.N.K.L.E. recently and (along with Tim Goldsworthy of the DFA)
assembled DFA Compilation #2.

Something for everyone on (313).  Check this recent playlist:

Playlist for Oct 14th, 2004 :::
 1. mu-Ziq - Riostand - RePHLeX
 2. Autechre - Doctrine - Warp
 3. Mike Ink - Paroles - Warp
 4. Curve - Falling Free (Aphex Twin Remix)
 5. mu-Ziq - mu-Ziq Theme - RePHLeX
 6. Ministry - The Angel - Sire
 7. Ultravox - Alles Klar - Chrysalis
 8. DMX Krew - When The Going Gets Weird - RePHLeX
 9. Klein  MBO - MBO Theme
10. Hot Chocolate - Night Ride - Rak
11. Killing Joke - Bloodsport - EG
12. Cabaret Voltaire - Sluggin' Fer Jesus - Bruits Essentiels
13. The Bridge - Love Dance (Love Mix) - Second Vision
14. The Emperor Machine - - DC
15. A Relic - Longer Than Long Ago - Transmat
16. Scan 7 - 21st Century
17. A Number of Names - Shari Vari
18. Michael Campbell  High Volt - We Are Making Music - Hit Makers of 
America

19. Bombers - Everybody Get Dancin' - West End
20. Lefturno - Out Of Sight - Ascot
21. Skatt Bros - Walk The Night - Casablanca
22. Mr. Flagio - Take A Chance - Zyx
23. Bohannon - Dance, Dance, Dance All Night - Phase II
24. Man Friday - Love Honey, Love Heartache - Vinylmania
25. Photocall - Silver Clouds - Computer Life
26. Chicken Lips - Meet Me At The Freezer - Kingsize
27. I:Cube - Fabu - Versatile
28. Plaid - Scoobs - Warp
29. Sueno Latino - Sueno Latino (Derrick May Remix) - Creative
30. Bang The Party - Bang You're Mine
31. Paperclip People - Throw (Hands In The Air Mix) - Open
32. The Slits - Earthbeat - Epic

- Greg



Re: (313) Metro Times: Detroit

2004-11-12 Thread yussel
ok- we get it, you don't like hawtin.

can the rest of us have a conversation now?

sheesh



On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

 -- Original Message --
 From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 maybe I misunderstand you, but its OK for mills to go on and on
 and on about
 what is basically 4/4 bangers, while hawtin (who IS innovating
 and changing
 sound through the years) is looked on as getting a bit too wanky?

 well, he sure is changing. if you call it innovation, i guess
 thats a judgement call. i call it devolution.

 tom

 
 andythepooh.com







Re: (313) Nice mix site with Detroit/Warp/RePHLeX/old school flava

2004-11-12 Thread diana potts

awesome! just the audio background i needed for a
rainy day filled with getting projects done.

thanks greg!


--- Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lots of good mixes (good playlists, if not always
 good mixing ;) ) here:
 
 http://www.beatsinspace.net/
 
 Apparently run by some guy in NYC named Tim Sweeney
 - he opened for
 U.N.K.L.E. recently and (along with Tim Goldsworthy
 of the DFA)
 assembled DFA Compilation #2.
 
 Something for everyone on (313).  Check this recent
 playlist:
 
 Playlist for Oct 14th, 2004 :::
   1. mu-Ziq - Riostand - RePHLeX
   2. Autechre - Doctrine - Warp
   3. Mike Ink - Paroles - Warp
   4. Curve - Falling Free (Aphex Twin Remix)
   5. mu-Ziq - mu-Ziq Theme - RePHLeX
   6. Ministry - The Angel - Sire
   7. Ultravox - Alles Klar - Chrysalis
   8. DMX Krew - When The Going Gets Weird - RePHLeX
   9. Klein  MBO - MBO Theme
 10. Hot Chocolate - Night Ride - Rak
 11. Killing Joke - Bloodsport - EG
 12. Cabaret Voltaire - Sluggin' Fer Jesus - Bruits
 Essentiels
 13. The Bridge - Love Dance (Love Mix) - Second
 Vision
 14. The Emperor Machine - - DC
 15. A Relic - Longer Than Long Ago - Transmat
 16. Scan 7 - 21st Century
 17. A Number of Names - Shari Vari
 18. Michael Campbell  High Volt - We Are Making
 Music - Hit Makers of 
 America
 19. Bombers - Everybody Get Dancin' - West End
 20. Lefturno - Out Of Sight - Ascot
 21. Skatt Bros - Walk The Night - Casablanca
 22. Mr. Flagio - Take A Chance - Zyx
 23. Bohannon - Dance, Dance, Dance All Night - Phase
 II
 24. Man Friday - Love Honey, Love Heartache -
 Vinylmania
 25. Photocall - Silver Clouds - Computer Life
 26. Chicken Lips - Meet Me At The Freezer - Kingsize
 27. I:Cube - Fabu - Versatile
 28. Plaid - Scoobs - Warp
 29. Sueno Latino - Sueno Latino (Derrick May Remix)
 - Creative
 30. Bang The Party - Bang You're Mine
 31. Paperclip People - Throw (Hands In The Air Mix)
 - Open
 32. The Slits - Earthbeat - Epic
 
   - Greg
 
 




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Re: (313) Metro Times: Detroit

2004-11-12 Thread yussel
it's interesting to me because i wrote essentailly the same article for
urb this past summer. and i'll admit, a blinding weekend in berlin with
hawtin and company is a heady experience that'll get you thinking about
what it all means.

of course- i don't have the capacity for such verbos (pretentious?) prose
as walter, which i think it's a benifit as a writer but a weakness in
myself.

but enough about me- whatever they're doing over there, a lot of it is
just drug induced mumbo, but then again, how much of the crap about
spacefunk and drexciyans and fear and loathing in las vegas and electric
kool-aid acid test and french romantisism and all that other old stuff i
don't know enough about is basically unrealistic babble. not all drug
related (although a LOT is). But my point is that any sort of valid
artistic movement will (and should) have a fair amount of pretentious and
abstract thought that never amounts to a hill of beans.

so yeah- what he said...





On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Tristan Watkins wrote:

 On Fri Nov 12  5:13 , '/0' [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 maybe I misunderstand you, but its OK for mills to go on and on and on about
 what is basically 4/4 bangers, while hawtin (who IS innovating and changing
 sound through the years) is looked on as getting a bit too wanky?
 
 please correct me (respectfully) if I misunderstand you

 Well, I never said anything about Mills, but I'd level the same criticism if 
 he was saying that what he does achieves something grand, rather than saying 
 that
 he achieves inspiration from grand ideas. And for the record, I wasn't so 
 much having a go at Hawtin as the author of the article. who seemed to want 
 to make it
 all seem earth-shattering. On Fri Nov 12  5:13 , '/0' [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 sent:

 maybe I misunderstand you, but its OK for mills to go on and on and on about
 what is basically 4/4 bangers, while hawtin (who IS innovating and changing
 sound through the years) is looked on as getting a bit too wanky?
 
 please correct me (respectfully) if I misunderstand you

 Well, I never said anything about Mills, but I'd level the same criticism if 
 he was saying that what he does achieves something grand, rather than saying 
 that
 he achieves inspiration from grand ideas (which is generally how I read his 
 pontifications). And for the record, I wasn't so much having a go at Hawtin 
 as the
 author of the article, who seemed to want to make it all earth-shattering 
 (although I do think Hawtin has a tendency to get caught up in philosophical 
 flavours
 of the month, from what I can glean from interviews). And this is not to say 
 there isn't significance to the events we witness in a club, nor that some 
 projects
 can't achieve lofty aspirations, but I don't like the idea that we need to 
 intellectualise music in order to give it *extra* importance. Music *is* very
 important, but it doesn't need the window-dressing to make it more than what 
 we experience in the immediate, in 99.99% of the cases.

 Tristan



RE: (313) Metro Times: Detroit

2004-11-12 Thread Tristan Watkins
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 12 November 2004 18:43
 To: Tristan Watkins
 Cc: ''SeanDeason C''; ''fwdthought''; 313@hyperreal.org; '/0'
 Subject: Re: (313) Metro Times: Detroit
 
 it's interesting to me because i wrote essentailly the same 
 article for urb this past summer. and i'll admit, a blinding 
 weekend in berlin with hawtin and company is a heady 
 experience that'll get you thinking about what it all means.
 
 of course- i don't have the capacity for such verbos 
 (pretentious?) prose as walter, which i think it's a benifit 
 as a writer but a weakness in myself.
 
 but enough about me- whatever they're doing over there, a lot 
 of it is just drug induced mumbo, but then again, how much of 
 the crap about spacefunk and drexciyans and fear and loathing 
 in las vegas and electric kool-aid acid test and french 
 romantisism and all that other old stuff i don't know enough 
 about is basically unrealistic babble. not all drug related 
 (although a LOT is). But my point is that any sort of valid 
 artistic movement will (and should) have a fair amount of 
 pretentious and abstract thought that never amounts to a hill 
 of beans.
 
 so yeah- what he said...

It's a fair enough point. I mean, I've been caught up in bullsh*t like that
as much as the next guy - not to say that I think I'm right, just that I
think it's bullsh*t, being fully aware that I am just as likely to be wrong
as the next guy. 

And because I think I end up sounding like a twat more than a hippy most of
the time, I'll tell you what I think people should be making a big deal of
(if they want to intellectualise about the clubbing experience): the
communal vibe. In my experience, few things encourage as much excitement as
when you get people in numbers getting off on the same thing, whether that's
political rallies, a small black church on the east side of Detroit,
sporting events or the rave. It's when community becomes nearly tangible -
especially if everyone is witnessing with the same spectatorial vocabulary.
It's like a controlled (or sometimes not) hysteria. The numbers don't need
to be massive, but of course if the connection and numbers are there
together, it all goes off in grander fashion. For me, this tends to happen
in smaller venues more often than not (but I'm not trying to resurrect that
debate), and few things make me happier than either going into myself with
the volume up, closing my eyes and feeling nothing but the pleasantness of
everything around me, or looking around at my friends when 'The Wipe' comes
on, knowing that we're all equally happy that some bloke in the DJ booth
knows how to make us happy. It's yet another kind of fulfilment when you're
in the position to guide this along, especially when you don't know the
crowd at all, and you're just hoping to God they'll dig your sh*t - it's one
of the few things that makes me a humanitarian and an optimist, despite the
troves of evidence to the contrary. And I love both sides of the booth.

So if I were ever going to consider how DJs should big themselves up
(especially if I was trying to claim that ego had nothing to do with it), I
wouldn't be spouting about how my ego is no longer a part of the process.
I'd be spouting about how the barrier between performer and audience is
eradicated when the right crowd is assembled for the right DJ in the right
place on the right night - which requires a good crowd, a good venue, a good
owner, a good promoter and a good DJ. None of which happens without the
right people, dedication, planning, fingers on the pulse, ground work,
experience, history, execution and the right wax. When that happens, it's
pure f*cking magic. In my mind, that's what must be happening in Berlin,
because I know that's how good nights happen in London. We might not get the
same kind of international press or have the same people migrating in
droves, but for at least the last few years, all of these ingredients have
come together with regularity here, and I bet it's not that much different
in Holland, Tokyo or Berlin. 

$.02. 
 
Tristan 
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(313) new CC on Planet E

2004-11-12 Thread Simon Vrebos
I heard Carl Craig is going to release a new record on Planet E. Someone I know 
received a white label, but I didn't had the change to listen to it yet. Maybe 
you?


RE: (313) Metro Times: Detroit

2004-11-12 Thread yussel


I just went back and re-read the quote. interestingly, only half the
later half is a direct quote, the previous paragraph being the writer's
explanation of the concept, therefore highly suspect...

but- i think the premise here is that of primalism (a word used by the
writer later on in the piece). I've often heard DJs talk about not really
thinking about what they're playing- it just pouring out. that's where the
'no ego' thing comes in. i've often seen rich go into those zones where he
just seems possessed. and i've certainly experienced those moments where
you lose all sense of self/group/listener/dj/whatever on the dancefloor. i
think that's the premise here.

which of course doesn't disqualify your theory tristan. in fact, i believe
the moment you describe usually comes right after the moment i'm
describing- when you return to your 'self' and become aware of the
communial nature of the event. so i think you and rich are really just
examing two points on the same highly fuzzy late-night timeline.




 It's a fair enough point. I mean, I've been caught up in bullsh*t like that
 as much as the next guy - not to say that I think I'm right, just that I
 think it's bullsh*t, being fully aware that I am just as likely to be wrong
 as the next guy.

 And because I think I end up sounding like a twat more than a hippy most of
 the time, I'll tell you what I think people should be making a big deal of
 (if they want to intellectualise about the clubbing experience): the
 communal vibe. In my experience, few things encourage as much excitement as
 when you get people in numbers getting off on the same thing, whether that's
 political rallies, a small black church on the east side of Detroit,
 sporting events or the rave. It's when community becomes nearly tangible -
 especially if everyone is witnessing with the same spectatorial vocabulary.
 It's like a controlled (or sometimes not) hysteria. The numbers don't need
 to be massive, but of course if the connection and numbers are there
 together, it all goes off in grander fashion. For me, this tends to happen
 in smaller venues more often than not (but I'm not trying to resurrect that
 debate), and few things make me happier than either going into myself with
 the volume up, closing my eyes and feeling nothing but the pleasantness of
 everything around me, or looking around at my friends when 'The Wipe' comes
 on, knowing that we're all equally happy that some bloke in the DJ booth
 knows how to make us happy. It's yet another kind of fulfilment when you're
 in the position to guide this along, especially when you don't know the
 crowd at all, and you're just hoping to God they'll dig your sh*t - it's one
 of the few things that makes me a humanitarian and an optimist, despite the
 troves of evidence to the contrary. And I love both sides of the booth.

 So if I were ever going to consider how DJs should big themselves up
 (especially if I was trying to claim that ego had nothing to do with it), I
 wouldn't be spouting about how my ego is no longer a part of the process.
 I'd be spouting about how the barrier between performer and audience is
 eradicated when the right crowd is assembled for the right DJ in the right
 place on the right night - which requires a good crowd, a good venue, a good
 owner, a good promoter and a good DJ. None of which happens without the
 right people, dedication, planning, fingers on the pulse, ground work,
 experience, history, execution and the right wax. When that happens, it's
 pure f*cking magic. In my mind, that's what must be happening in Berlin,
 because I know that's how good nights happen in London. We might not get the
 same kind of international press or have the same people migrating in
 droves, but for at least the last few years, all of these ingredients have
 come together with regularity here, and I bet it's not that much different
 in Holland, Tokyo or Berlin.

 $.02.

 Tristan
 ===
 http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: (313) Magick Times: Detroit

2004-11-12 Thread Martin Dust
Austin Osman Spare called this a state of neither neither - a state of 
mind where the internal chatter is silenced and a strange kind of auto-pilot 
takes over. This can often happen if you drive the same route to work 
everyday - you arrive not even aware of how complete the journey was, let 
allow all the internal instructions needed to drive car.


Martin




which of course doesn't disqualify your theory tristan. in fact, i believe
the moment you describe usually comes right after the moment i'm
describing- when you return to your 'self' and become aware of the
communial nature of the event. so i think you and rich are really just
examing two points on the same highly fuzzy late-night timeline.





Re: (313) Metro Times: Detroit

2004-11-12 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ok- we get it, you don't like hawtin.

can the rest of us have a conversation now?

sheesh

i dont see why the other guy making blatantly irritating
generalizations about jeff mills is okay but if i say the same
about hawtin its not a discussion? 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


Re: (313) new CC on Planet E

2004-11-12 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: Simon Vrebos [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I heard Carl Craig is going to release a new record on Planet E.
Someone I know received a white label, but I didn't had the change
to listen to it yet. Maybe you?

i have the 12 on white. its a mostly ambient (3 out of 4 cuts)
with one minimal housey kind of cut. nothing super exciting on the
12 really. the A1 is the best cut, its a melodic ambient cut
thats just not as good as a wonderful life. the b1 is the housey
cut and the b2 is a mostly noisy throw away kind of thing. its not
going to be a huge record i dont think, but if youre a fan of
carl's work youll probably be interested in hearing it. 

tom
 


andythepooh.com


 
   


RE: (313) Magick Times: Detroit

2004-11-12 Thread Tristan Watkins
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 12 November 2004 20:06
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) Magick Times: Detroit
 
 Austin Osman Spare called this a state of neither neither - 
 a state of mind where the internal chatter is silenced and a 
 strange kind of auto-pilot takes over. This can often happen 
 if you drive the same route to work everyday - you arrive not 
 even aware of how complete the journey was, let allow all the 
 internal instructions needed to drive car.

Yeah, exactly. This is what I was talking about in my post yesterday. That
you can get to 'the zone' or whatever you want to call that immersive state
through lots of different ways, not just through DJing. 

 I just went back and re-read the quote. interestingly, only 
 half the later half is a direct quote, the previous paragraph 
 being the writer's explanation of the concept, therefore 
 highly suspect...

I was never trying to discredit what Hawtin was on about. I was just trying
to dilute the importance the author gave to it. I mean the dude uses this
fairly banal observation about the creative process as the starting point
for his tirade about Berlin being the mecca of the arts, citing loads of
crap about Hegel, Kant, Negri, etc. If you're looking at two hundred years
of a city's history, you're bound to find loads of important
artistic/philospohical contributors, without extending that laundry list of
Germans to people who never lived there (like Nietzsche for one). I mean do
we really need a reminder of how many important philosophers came from
Germany? It's philosophical name-dropping at its worst because the content
is never put to use, except for a crappy paragraph on Hegel, who could never
be summarized out of context. 

I just thought it was a tenuous place to begin the exploration of the import
of electronic music to art globally, and pretty non-unique to Berlin. He
could've just said Berlin's cool because it's got loads of clubbers who
love good music and lots of really good DJs live there, but that's not a
very interesting story (albeit true). Am I the only one that thought it was
excessively long given that it had hardly any coherent focus? A couple of
bits thrown in at the end about the DJs other than Hawtin for what? Because
the journalist got time with them too? 

Sorry... I never meant to rip this thing to shreds, it just seemed like it
could've used some more time and insight. Conversely, the dude probably got
the thing out on time under tight pressure, whereas my Movement report is
not as long, took me two months to write/edit and is only now about to see
the light of day. 
 
Tristan 
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(313) Other new stuff

2004-11-12 Thread Tristan Watkins
Some stuff I'm really diggin' at the moment: 

That Juan Atkins 'Fast Forward', as previously mentioned. 

Claro Intellecto remix of Vector Lovers on Soma. Long, slow drawn-out
techno. 

The two B-side cuts on the new Vince Watson on Headspace are sick. The first
is deep, slightly tracky techno, maybe reminding of Hood??? The second makes
me think of mid-'90s Warpish techno. Really nice stuff. 

Memory Foundation - Hot and Smokey ep on Central, for the last track. The
other three all show some promise but don't quite hit it. The last one does
for sure though, with big chunky European beats beneath Detroity stabs. A
nice combination. 

Dirty Criminals - Organized Confuzion on Gigolo. About half the cuts on here
are exactly like what you'd hope Traxx would put out. DIRTY acid with an EBM
edge, plus enough Hyroglyphic Being throughout to not make it feel
one-dimensional. TOUGH. I would love to see Traxx play this stuff... 

Chicago Housing Commission 2 + 3. That 'House is Mine' whatever-it-is is
dope. Does it sample the Hypnotist tune, or do they both sample something
else? I like it plenty, at any rate. Also 'Berlin' on Volume 3 is a pretty
cool noisy but reverby take on acid. Still haven't heard more than one
stand-out cut on any of these, but think both of these are worth the price. 

DJ Yoav B - Boogie Down Saturn: Two Friday's ago I forwarded to the part of
'Clinically Inclined' that featuerd this track to play it for my flatmate
when I got home. 30 minutes later found myself on a spontaneous journey to
Brighton to see Carl Craig, having been seized by techno. Can't wait to hear
this loud. Totally brilliant. 

De La Soul - Grind Date (Included per J Dilla production): Some serious
Motown edge to a lot of this. I think it's the best album since 'Stakes is
High' (which I rate as their best). Some people may think it's too RB in
places, but if that won't bother you I think this will float your boat.
There are some moments of production genius, that's for sure. I fear the
lyrical themes may be getting tired, but every time I hear a new De La they
find a way to defeat that resistance after about 5 listens, so my hopes are
high! 

Pirahnahead - Dreams [Mahogani]: BIG house from a disco perspective. Seems a
bit strange on Mahogani, but I can feel the Detroit in it, just like Amp
Fiddler. Really like the big non-vocally bit in the middle, not so much
because it doesn't have vocals as because it's just good. Can't see myself
playing it out, but can see myself dancing to it in the right set, if that
makes any sense. Like I think Mike grant could play it well, but it would
stick out like a sore thumb in one of my sets... 

[Dead horse beating time] All that Shed stuff on Soloaction and Delsin. Not
a bad cut yet, and most of them are wicked. Really digging some of the
different directions on the Delsin one too. 
 
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RE: (313) Magick Times: Detroit

2004-11-12 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
I kinda feel like the article was really a brief overview of what the writer 
got from the interview with richie. I'd really love to see the whole interview 
in a proper QA stylee. Let rich tell it himself. Otherwise you never really 
know. I feel where all the points are coming from though. 

Kamal K. Stoddard
Turner Broadcasting Systems

 
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