RE: (313) Berlin

[Melody Ng]

I got the impression from the locals that they think it is "generally" a
gay club, even though it's usually just the Saturday nites which were
gay orientated 

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From: Jason Brunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2005 17:57
To: Roman von Contzen
Cc: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Berlin

Hey Roman,


> . my personal favourite is berghain atm. if you wanna sleep for an 
> hour or so - they even have darkrooms :-) it's the best location - not

> just because of the fantastic architecture. don't bring your camera. 
> they don't wanna have any pictures taken - so the security will do a 
> proper search - they even have a female one for the girls. had to 
> leave my camera at the counter. the few girls that go there on a 
> saturday night are a) with some gay male friends or b) because they 
> know that it's safe to go there being a woman that just wants to party

> instead of having to scare away the horny guys all the time.

this wasn't our experience at all when we were over a few weeks ago-
although the downstairs area was pretty hardcore gay, the Panorama bar
was just like a "normal" club, very mixed crowd who were incredibly open
minded about their music- def one of my favourite places I've been to in
the last couple of years- we didn't have any problems with cameras
either.


cheers

Jason






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FW: (313) sonar

[René]

 

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Aan: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Onderwerp: RE: (313) sonar


Sonar ..?? 

Basscelona Electronic Free Festival..!!!

Check this, IF you dig electro/good music :))

http://www.basterdized.com/frontweb.jpg
http://www.basterdized.com/backweb.jpg
 
René



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Onderwerp: Re: (313) sonar

yo max, theres some info on a sonar party here that looks cool:

http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10628

also, minto from downlow is dj'ing somewhere too - should be good! (as
phrenic), so keep your eyes peeled for that!

otherwise, I haven't been looking because I'm not going.
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Re: (313) sonar

[Nicole Slavin]

The Soundslike party (Alex posted the LD link) is definately the place 
to be on Thursday night if you like good music. Raf and Dave are wicked 
djs and Dani Sicilliano played some great tracks at the party I was at a 
couple of weeks ago, she was joined by Herbert for a while too. I'll be 
there if anyone wants to meet up.
Friday night at Sonar itself is a pretty good lineup: Jamie Lidell, Soft 
Pink Truth, Laurent Garnier.
The Kompakt beach party is always fun on Sunday but I can't remember the 
address - ask about, lots of people will be going.
Also heard a rumour that Jeff MIlls might be playing the Tresor party, 
but cannot confirm that.


Benoît Pueyo wrote:


Ill be at Sonar aswell !!

I think ill attend the tresor nite at Moog on thursday, no pla for the 
other nites, maybe the Immignrat vs Technique on Friday.


Anyone who wants to meet, just reply me !

Re: (313) sonar

[Benoît Pueyo]

Ill be at Sonar aswell !!

I think ill attend the tresor nite at Moog on thursday, no pla for the 
other nites, maybe the Immignrat vs Technique on Friday.


Anyone who wants to meet, just reply me !

--
Benoît.

max a écrit :
Off to Barcelona tomorrow, to begin my first sonar experience. 
Got the jist of one party on Friday night for Christian Vogel's new album

launch, "station 55".
With CV live and Andrew Weatheral also playing and a few others I've not
heard of. 


Is any one else on this list aware of events going on outside of sonar that
will be worth checking out, music based or other wise. 
My first time to BCN so any hints and tips are very welcome. 
Any one else going? ?


I will document the trip heavily and upload pics when I get back.

Also... Just dropped a mix onto I-pod that I made for the trip out there,
plenty of almost train-wrecks due to trying to get the hang of a cd
turntable plus sound sensitive neighbors that get all worked up about any
music above sneeze level, so had to mix quietly!! 
But saying that there are a couple forthcoming amp-art jems on the mix you

might like to check out, one at the start and one at the end.

www.born-yesterday.co.uk/radio/max-amp-art-mix.mp3 

Will post track listing if requested. 


Whord
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(313) Fabrice Lig - Live @ Fuse-In 2005

[Thomas van Steen.]

new mix on pulsation.com ...

Fabrice Lig - Live @ Fuse-In Festival (Detroit - May 2005)
Posted 06/14/2005 - Length 52:20
http://www.pulsation.com/mixes/fabricelig.php

** 
bye 
...


Thomas van Steen.
http://www.pulsation.com

Re: Re: (313) Jade Jagger was Re: (313) Seen It All?

[Dan Bean]

haha, get you!

actually I thought it was about music biz gangsters making sh*tloads of cash 
selling dodgy music and lifestyles to ignorant clubbers, but I've never been so 
what the hell would I know!

I was surprised/saddened by how many people in Detroit asked me whether I'd 
been to Ibiza. I was tempted to launch into rants about 'The White Isle', but 
somehow I couldn't get the energy. My weirdest conversation by far was with the 
bloke who came to change the tire on my car. For the record, that's not the 
sort of thing that I'd normally get other people to do, but it was a hire care 
and there was some kind of weird mechanism to release the spare tire that I 
couldn't figure out, anyway...

Tyre Guy: So, where you from man?
Me: The UK
TG: The Ukraine?
Me: No, England.
TG: Oh Man, I LOVE England, I've always wanted to visit!
Me: Really, why's that?
TG: Phil Collins man! I love that guy, ever since susudio I been checking his 
sh*t for real!
Me: Are you sure?
TG: Oh yes, he da man! Hey, you know him or sumink?
Me: No, not really, I think he's a tax exile in Barbados these days anyway.
Tyre Guy looked quite upset about this. I think he was hoping to pop round to 
his house and say hello.
 
> >she also designs leather bikinis (kind of like solar powered torches?)
> 
> It's Ibiza.  Nobody swims in Ibiza.  It's all about the beach, not the
> water dhling.
> 
> MEK

Re: Re: (313) Jade Jagger was Re: (313) Seen It All?

[alex . bond]

>And by 'torches' you mean 'flashlights' -- oh you brits!

nope, he deffo meant torches.

not of that funny foreign language here please.

; )
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Re: (313) Tardis, Ayro & John Arnold

[alex . bond]

Thanks for that John. Much appreciated. Enjoy your stay here. !

>We are doing the Maida Vale show today and it should be up in the
>next few weeks;-)

Good luck with that! I look forward to hearing it. Let us know when its on
the wireless so we can tune in.

: )

oh, and, i hope to see you play one time. heh, in detroit. or something.


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Re: (313) Jade Jagger was Re: (313) Seen It All?

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

>she also designs leather bikinis (kind of like solar powered torches?)

It's Ibiza.  Nobody swims in Ibiza.  It's all about the beach, not the
water dhling.

MEK

Re: Re: (313) Jade Jagger was Re: (313) Seen It All?

[Dan Bean]

right, just like wot the queen sez innit?

You wrote:
> And by 'torches' you mean 'flashlights' -- oh you brits!
> 
> On 6/14/05, Dan Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > That's right, she's famous for being famous...mind you, she has been known 
> > to hang out at Manumission, which clearly entitles her to be a DJ ;)
> > 
> > she also designs leather bikinis (kind of like solar powered torches?)
> > 
> > 
> > > I'm guessing it is Mick Jagger's daughter. Andrew "definitely
> > > not a Rolling Fans fan, Led Zep and Queen are more for me" Duke
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andrew Duke
> > > scoring/sound design/source
> > > http://andrew-duke.com
> > > Cognition Audioworks label
> > > [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark]
> > > http://cognitionaudioworks.com
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Re: (313) Tardis, Ayro & John Arnold

[john arnold]

Hi Alex,

Kickin it in London at the moment.. What we do?
Jeremy plays live mpc, keys and sings and I play live mpc and all my 
keyboards on midi guitar.  It works out pretty well.  We trade back and 
forth.  We are doing the Maida Vale show today and it should be up in the 
next few weeks;-)

peace Alex,
-j


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Subject: Re: (313) Tardis, Ayro & John Arnold
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:39:13 +0100

>I was totally blown away,

hey. so this sounds good! can you tell us more?

is there just two of them? what happens, does ayro play keys? what does
john arnold do? doesn't john play guitar (?) or do I have that wrong?

is there an electronic element, or is it a live band type thing?

sorry for all the q's, just curious, sounds really good.

p.s.>http://www.workdance.com/Gallery_Pages/tardis.html

Thats WELL cosmic : )


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FW: (313) Seen It All?

[Stoddard, Kamal]

 > Well,  she is the daughter of Mick Jagger and has grown up in and 
> around musicians

Really? She grew up in musicians? That must've been pretty gross. :)

Kamal K. Stoddard
Turner Broadcasting Systems
 
 

Re: (313) Seen It All?

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

Well,  she is the daughter of Mick Jagger and has grown up in and around
musicians I would guess that she's got some musical talent and can probably
tell if two tracks are out of synch with each other and which track is
slipping (better than lots of big name DJs).  And from this article it
sounds like she has decent taste in music...

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/recorddoctor/story/0,11109,1044069,00.html
Unsurprisingly, Jagger knows how to throw a good party. She warms up
generally with reggae, before making the switch to hip hop, but she's got
an ongoing project to introduce different kinds of music to the Ibiza
scene. 'Ibiza is obsessed with house music, and it's so single minded and
so drug fuelled... So next party, I want to play some blues, and some funk
and some rare groove and stuff. Maybe even some country.' She doesn't DJ,
she says, 'but I'm quite controlling, and so I guess I DJ in that other
people play the records, and I stand in the background and dictate. And I
do have a mild fantasy of becoming DJade.'

Jagger would takes tunes over lyrics every time ('Well, beats, at least')
but she doesn't understand the current crop of house music. 'I grew up with
house, but it was different then. More like soul music. It had lyrics. Now,
I don't even know how people buy house. How do you distinguish one record
from another?' She thinks the sexiest music imaginable is 'anything that
falls behind time. Like Prince, or old reggae. It's like slow sex, and
you're desperate for it to go faster.' Too much trance will spoil a night
for her, and Lauryn Hill's The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill and Wyclef Jean
featuring Mary J. Blige's '911' will make her cry. 'It's very egotistical,
all that. You relate the music to you, to your relationships.' But now, she
says, music mainly reminds her of her kids. 'I'll be away and listen to pop
music, and it's like I'm there, seeing them do their routines in the living
room.'

I'm confused about this part though -
>"I guess I DJ in that other people play the records, and I stand in the
background and dictate."

So, she's not DJing?  Is that what the "presents Jezebel" thing is about?
She's selecting tracks for someone else to play?

If her name wasn't Jagger she wouldn't be a "celeb" DJ - just a DJ with a
good selection of tracks.  Frankly, if she's playing good tunes (and "too
much trance will spoil a night for her") she's ok in my book.

MEK



   
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Jade Jagger has a Renaissance mix-CD...

Re: (313) Jade Jagger was Re: (313) Seen It All?

[Dan Bean]

That's right, she's famous for being famous...mind you, she has been known to 
hang out at Manumission, which clearly entitles her to be a DJ ;)

she also designs leather bikinis (kind of like solar powered torches?)


> I'm guessing it is Mick Jagger's daughter.  Andrew "definitely
> not a Rolling Fans fan, Led Zep and Queen are more for me" Duke
> 
> -- 
> Andrew Duke
> scoring/sound design/source
> http://andrew-duke.com
> Cognition Audioworks label
> [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark]
> http://cognitionaudioworks.com
> 
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Re: (313) Jade Jagger was Re: (313) Seen It All?

[Dan Bean]

That's right, she's famous for being famous...mind you, she has been known to 
hang out at Manumission, which clearly entitles her to be a DJ ;)

she also designs leather bikinis (kind of like solar powered torches?)


> I'm guessing it is Mick Jagger's daughter.  Andrew "definitely
> not a Rolling Fans fan, Led Zep and Queen are more for me" Duke
> 
> -- 
> Andrew Duke
> scoring/sound design/source
> http://andrew-duke.com
> Cognition Audioworks label
> [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark]
> http://cognitionaudioworks.com
> 
> 
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FW: (313) Seen It All?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> -Original Message-
> From: SEAN DEASON [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 14 June 2005 14:50
> 
> for those of us outside of the hipster loop (okay.
> just me):  who is this Jade Jagger person?
> (it's too hot out to google right now)

OK I confess that while I know who she is (Mick's it/rich girl daughter) I
was flummoxed when everybody said the most acceptable celeb DJ was Alex
or something who got points for not using his own name.  He might as well
have for me as I didn't know who he was?

(313) Jade Jagger was Re: (313) Seen It All?

[Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks]

SEAN DEASON wrote:


for those of us outside of the hipster loop (okay.
just me):  who is this Jade Jagger person?
(it's too hot out to google right now)

sean deason


 


I'm guessing it is Mick Jagger's daughter.  Andrew "definitely
not a Rolling Fans fan, Led Zep and Queen are more for me" Duke

--
Andrew Duke
scoring/sound design/source
http://andrew-duke.com
Cognition Audioworks label
[Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark]
http://cognitionaudioworks.com



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Re: (313) Seen It All?

[SEAN DEASON]

for those of us outside of the hipster loop (okay.
just me):  who is this Jade Jagger person?
(it's too hot out to google right now)

sean deason

(313) Some slightly more coherent reactions to the best performance ever

[Tristan Watkins]

Argh. Been struggling to get this through...

So, I'm a little more capable of describing what about and why I liked the John 
Arnold and Jeremy Ellis (Ayro) show on Sunday so much. First, the evironment 
was flawless. Plastic People can get a bit cramped even on Sundays, but it was 
just well-attended enough to create a properly enthused response, while still 
leaving enough room to move. Also, some live performers I've seen there in the 
past have shown a total disregard for normal volume restrictions, litterally 
clearing the entire dance floor through pure obliviousness, but again that was 
not the case on Sunday. 

It probably helps to have seen Ayro live before to understand what's so unique 
and compelling (I'm personally thinking of his main stage DEMF performance a 
couple of years ago). Basically he just did everything in that show: starting 
with live MPC into some live Moog, each suddenly becoming a loop before you 
know it, then he'd run across the stage, play some live percussion, run back 
and start singing. Later John Arnold, some singers and others joined him to 
round things out, but he still managed to wear just about every hat. 

So this time around it's billed as an MPC tag team (the Akai MPC is probably 
the most popular sampler in the world and has 16 square pads to trigger 
samples, particularly good for percussion). It started with Jeremy Ellis 
delivering a blistering percussion solo, which came full circle to a thin 
broken beat atop which John Arnold layered his own percussion solo to fill 
things up, then off they went. John Arnold played live guitar (although some of 
the stuff he was coming out with was processed enought to sound like the 
craziest techno bass and/or synth lines I've heard). Ayro had two keyboards 
with him, with which he would do visually blurring, mind-melting solos that 
somehow terminated in a newly-formed synth line. He also sang really, really 
well. Some of the newer Peurto Rican stuff really stood out but the whole thing 
was great. Beyond all that, with so much to do at all times and so much ground 
to cover, the whole thing tied together brilliantly, allowing each artist a bit 
of spotlight when necessary, but generally working together without a hitch. 
This was absolutely the next level of live performance: entirely created on the 
spot (save a couple of missing vocalists on a couple of tracks), masterful 
execution, complete pride, confidence and joy in the process and result. They 
also managed to go through about 4 mics and an MPC meltdown without missing a 
beat. Stunning. 

Tristan
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Re: (313) sonar

[alex . bond]

yo max, theres some info on a sonar party here that looks cool:

http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10628

also, minto from downlow is dj'ing somewhere too - should be good! (as
phrenic), so keep your eyes peeled for that!

otherwise, I haven't been looking because I'm not going.
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Re: (313) Tardis, Ayro & John Arnold

[alex . bond]

>I was totally blown away,

hey. so this sounds good! can you tell us more?

is there just two of them? what happens, does ayro play keys? what does
john arnold do? doesn't john play guitar (?) or do I have that wrong?

is there an electronic element, or is it a live band type thing?

sorry for all the q's, just curious, sounds really good.

p.s.>http://www.workdance.com/Gallery_Pages/tardis.html

Thats WELL cosmic : )


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Re: (313) sonar

[fab.]

hi max,
the only thing i know of is the klitekture/sinergy-networks events that will 
take place during sonar.


here is the forwarded message:
-
Klitekture/sinergy-networks events and appointments info for sonar week in 
Barcelona:

  :
Klitekture + Friends event .  Barcelona . 15 June

release party for new klitekture release "epitome vol2" and 
sinergy-networks/thinner collaboration called "Thinnergy" to be released on 
both labels


Audio: LOD + PEP GAYA + GURTZ  + TUPPERWEAR

Visuals : xionix + sgisch

place: FAD (plaza del angles, 5-6-in front of  Macba) www.fadweb.org
from 11:00 till 03:00 - free entrance
Stands:Klitekture, sinergy-networks, zensible beats crew, thinner, net28, 
surphase, drone, +0

more info @ www.klitekture.com o www.sinergy-networks.com

-

Sinergy-networks event . Barcelona . 18 June

presentation of "Thinnergy", a sinergy-networks/thinner collaboration

Audio: BERN (France) + SMBP (Italy) + sinergy net show

visuals: Avatam visuals (France) + xionix (Gran Canaria)

place: mau-mau underground ( Fontrodona 33, close to paralelo-apolo) 
www.maumaunderground.com/info.asp

from 11:00 till 3:00 - free entrance
more info @ www.klitekture.com o www.sinergy-networks.com

-

Klitekture and sinergy-networks appointments

If you would like to meet with us while in Barcelona come to la ruta natural 
record shop (pasaje elisabeths) from 11 till 16:00 monday till saturday 
except forn thursday that we will be on the sonar record fair. Please send 
us email for meeting time or give us a call at + 34 687663718


---

fab.
- Original Message - 
From: "max" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <313@HYPERREAL.ORG>
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 12:59 AM
Subject: (313) sonar



Off to Barcelona tomorrow, to begin my first sonar experience.
Got the jist of one party on Friday night for Christian Vogel's new album
launch, "station 55".
With CV live and Andrew Weatheral also playing and a few others I've not
heard of.

Is any one else on this list aware of events going on outside of sonar 
that

will be worth checking out, music based or other wise.
My first time to BCN so any hints and tips are very welcome.
Any one else going? ?

I will document the trip heavily and upload pics when I get back.

Also... Just dropped a mix onto I-pod that I made for the trip out there,
plenty of almost train-wrecks due to trying to get the hang of a cd
turntable plus sound sensitive neighbors that get all worked up about any
music above sneeze level, so had to mix quietly!!
But saying that there are a couple forthcoming amp-art jems on the mix you
might like to check out, one at the start and one at the end.

www.born-yesterday.co.uk/radio/max-amp-art-mix.mp3

Will post track listing if requested.

Whord
Max [||m x m||]]
www.amp-art.com

Re: (313) Berlin

[Jason Brunton]

Hey Roman,


. my personal favourite is berghain atm. if you wanna sleep for an  
hour or so - they even have darkrooms :-) it's the best location -  
not just because of the fantastic architecture. don't bring your  
camera. they don't wanna have any pictures taken - so the security  
will do a proper search - they even have a female one for the  
girls. had to leave my camera at the counter. the few girls that go  
there on a saturday night are a) with some gay male friends or b)  
because they know that it's safe to go there being a woman that  
just wants to party instead of having to scare away the horny guys  
all the time.


this wasn't our experience at all when we were over a few weeks ago-  
although the downstairs area was pretty hardcore gay, the Panorama  
bar was just like a "normal" club, very mixed crowd who were  
incredibly open minded about their music- def one of my favourite  
places I've been to in the last couple of years- we didn't have any  
problems with cameras either.



cheers

Jason

RE: (313) Seen It All?

[Melody Ng]

although I do recall this one party where he barely played and spent
most of the time handing over records to someone else (instead of
playing back to back). That was the last time I saw him play I think. I
can't remember anything particularly negative about his mixing at any
other parties so I'll assume he was ok :P 

-Original Message-
From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:29
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) Seen It All?

Yes, I respected that too. He was for real.

> He definitely had some good records in his crate. I've unintentionally

> bought quite a few of his second hand records before.
>
> The cool thing about Alex was that he didn't use his name, but had a 
> dj pseudonym. There was never any marketing bullsh*t to upsell him.

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Re: (313) Seen It All?

[Cyclone Wehner]

Yes, I respected that too. He was for real.

> He definitely had some good records in his crate. I've unintentionally
> bought quite a few of his second hand records before.
>
> The cool thing about Alex was that he didn't use his name, but had a dj
> pseudonym. There was never any marketing bullsh*t to upsell him.

Re: (313) Seen It All?

[David Gillies]

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He definitely had some good records in his crate. I've unintentionally
bought quite a few of his second hand records before.

The cool thing about Alex was that he didn't use his name, but had a dj
pseudonym. There was never any marketing bullsh*t to upsell him.

Cyclone Wehner wrote:
> The cult of celebrity is over... the cult of non-entity is in. Maybe she can
> get her ex Pharrell to MC over it. ;)
> The best "celebrity" DJ I ever saw play was actor Alex Dimitriades, big
> Detroit head, and actually v, v, v good DJ.
> 
> 
>>well according to the pete tong website she's playing alongside jeff
>>
>>8th - Kelis Live PA. Jeff Mills, Pete Tong, Sarah Main & Jade Jagger
>>presents Jezebel with resident Jarren C
>>
>>I'm assuming she's 'jade jagger presents jezebel' whatever that means!

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Re: (313) Seen It All?

[Cyclone Wehner]

The cult of celebrity is over... the cult of non-entity is in. Maybe she can
get her ex Pharrell to MC over it. ;)
The best "celebrity" DJ I ever saw play was actor Alex Dimitriades, big
Detroit head, and actually v, v, v good DJ.

> well according to the pete tong website she's playing alongside jeff
>
> 8th - Kelis Live PA. Jeff Mills, Pete Tong, Sarah Main & Jade Jagger
> presents Jezebel with resident Jarren C
>
> I'm assuming she's 'jade jagger presents jezebel' whatever that means!

RE: (313) Seen It All?

[Melody Ng]

well according to the pete tong website she's playing alongside jeff

8th - Kelis Live PA. Jeff Mills, Pete Tong, Sarah Main & Jade Jagger
presents Jezebel with resident Jarren C 

I'm assuming she's 'jade jagger presents jezebel' whatever that means!

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Subject: (313) Seen It All?

Jade Jagger has a Renaissance mix-CD...

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(313) Seen It All?

[Cyclone Wehner]

Jade Jagger has a Renaissance mix-CD...

Re: (313) whats on ur (car)stereo at moment

[darnistle]

Jamie Stewart wrote:


Public Image LTD  Pop Tones


"this bleeding heart looking for bodies nearly injured my pride..."

(313) Vault Radio for June 6 w/ Jamie Bissmire

[Anton Banks \(313\)]

News:

Many thanks to Jamie Bissmire and Ben Long for providing last weeks guest
mix.

I have about 150 pix and a few movies from Fuse-In in Detroit Memorial Day
weekend. They should be posted on this site within the next few days.

I have exclusive material by several guest artists planned for the next few
shows. The schedule is...

   June 20- Greg Gow (Restructured Records)
   June 27- Rokken aka Paul Birken & Scott Radke (Tonewrecker Records)

The last four programs are always archived online. Visit
www.antonbanks.com/show.htm to hear them.

Playlist for June 6, 2005
CLICK THE LINK TO LISTEN
http://www.antonbanks.com/audio/06-06-05.mp3
Please excuse the sound quality. There are some grounding issues I need to
fix.

Luke Eargoggle, Akupunktur Hours, Audio Warriors, Bunker
Sonic Insomniac, Mh23.11.01, Tareth Ep, Regal
Jori Hulkkonen Feat, Nick Triani, Alexi Delano Rmx, Science, F-Com
Sycophant Slags, Cklanger, Superfreq
Richard Bartz, Sun Sun Sun, Kurbel
Carl Craig, My Machines Pt 1, 69
Jurassic 5, Concrete Schoolyard, Middle Man Records

Geo Vogt, The Bubble, Assemblage Points, Relief
Dj Shufflemaster & Chester Beaty, Specular Halucination, Cloned
Adam Beyer & Henrik B, Unknown, Mad Eye
British Murder Boys, Splinter, Downwards
James Ruskin, Paranoia, Into Submission, Tresor
Paul Mac, Unknown, C-Side
Hardcell & Johan Bacto, Create & Distort Pt 1, Create And Distort, Devil's
Choice
British Murder Boys, All The Saints Have Been Hung, Counterbalance

Mix by Jamie Bissmire (50hz/Space Djz/London)

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Long Island, NY. WESU also broadcasts via the internet. Visit the station's
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Re: (313) Any word on the financial situation?

[Cyclone Wehner]

> good point tom (& jodie), and concisely made..sorry if i was an ass to you
> cyclone, but you made me feel stupid for even bringing it up. you had good
> points too.

Nah, you didn't offend me at all dude, I respect your opinion as much as
anyone else's.
All good. I like the diversity on this list. We agree on the fundamentals
I'm sure. Debate is good.
I actually think the press in Detroit is excellent.

Re: (313) Any word on the financial situation?

[Cyclone Wehner]

> Why not go MEL -> LAX on Qantas, and LAX -> DTW on Northwest?  2 
> non-stops,
> no muss, no fuss.
>
> Other than the fact that Qantas' prices are absolutely outrageous, that
> is :-)

Yeah but you get your own tely - that is sooo important. ;) The food is
better. And you get socks and a toothbrush and so on. Qantas doesn't rattle.
;)

 > (Mid-July MEL-LAX on Qantas prices out to AU $2341 == US $1795.  What a
> rip-off!
>   Hopefully late May is a little better  :-)  )

You get good deals in May even if you book 5 days ahead. I've never paid
that! ;) It's expensive as it's good.

> BTW, comparing Qantas (long-haul, 747's, movie screens, etc.) with US
> Airways
> (short-haul, smaller planes, no movie screens, etc.) is sorta apples to
> oranges ...
> I could say the same about the puddle-jumper I took between Sydney and
> Brisbane :-)

Even on short flights here they feed you.

Re: (313) Any word on the financial situation?

[Cyclone Wehner]

> oops, reality, sorry! i realize this was a completely ridiculous thing to
> suggest, and i might as well have been talking about dinosaurs and russell
> crowe (!?!?)

I know, I was being playful but I do feel it's an issue. ;)

> i think the festival can only go positive from where it's at. it's never
> made money. maybe now it can proceed with a realistic financial outlook.
> it's changed hands since those controversy's anyways...

Me too. This year seems to mark a turning point. I think Kevin with his
pragmatic approach is a good guy, so I had faith. There seems to be more
positivity this year. But...

>
> you're trying to coddle this thing imo. and overstating the importance of
> the media. corporate sponsors are surely privvy to more inside information
> than what's printed in newspapers, i think they hear about the sketchiness
> whether it's in print or not. negative media doesnt help, but it's just a
> reaction to REAL problems that can't be swept aside!

This is where I disagree. Sponsors come on board as they want publicity and
to look good, if there is negative publicity surrounding an event they won't
come on board. Sponsors are very sensitive to the media. The media is all
powerful in this regard. There is no denying it. I think far from coddling,
mismanagement should be exposed, but there has been a very negative bias at
times. No one wants to coddle anything, nor should they. One year they
quoted a 313 tourist in a piece who was extremely negative but not
representative of the people who travel to Detroit for the festival. That's
one case of an imbalance.

> i think the management of the festival has played the largest part in the
> festival's struggle, uhhh?? for instance, hugely inflated numbers matched
> with hugely disappointing returns considering those numbers, that make
> potential sponsors scratch their heads incredulously?

Whenever artists run their own events you're likely to have management
issues - I'm sure if Clear Channel ran it there would be no management
issues. But would it be credible? It's a tough one.