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(313) Are we living in a parallel universe?
This just in: Richie Hawtin aka Plastikman has been kidnapped and replaced by Witchie Hawtin (much like Mario from the Nintendo game, who was kidnapped replaced with Wario), who has a diff. hairdo and extremely monotonous playing style (as opposed to the much livelier sets of the past). The replacement, Witchie, now credits himself with being an equivalent of a globe explorer in centuries past, and along with Ricardo Villabo-bos, and Sven Vath, on the cutting edge of techno and very, very underground. Wario was last reported to have been hanging out with trance dj's, exchanging notes on strategies how to get thousands of suburban white (in appearance AND spirit) kids into stadiums and listen to funkless music and think they like it. The real Richie is rumored to have secretly requested help from the Underground Resistance covert retrieval unit. :o) Wojtek
Re: (313) Carl Craig on Beats in Space
On Nov 17, 2005, at 3:58 AM, Robert Taylor wrote: Yeah, love this show - currently downloading every single recorded show - it seems Matt McQ has competition! Heh... Beats In Space is a great show! I wish there were more like it in America. Our show has been running for longer ;) but on the other hand we've got 2% of the connections that Tim has in NYC... so many of his guest DJs are jaw-droppers we wish him all the best! Tim is a nice guy, we've wished each other well - and anyone with that much interest in diverse music is gonna have a great radio program. His show is spreading audio seeds that will grow up as other radio shows someday, too. You gotta take the long perspective on independent radio in the US... otherwise it's just too depressing. Plus, his show has a better name ;) peace -- Matt http://sonicsunset.com
(313) Mike Agent X Clark and Delano Smith in SF
Having been to the Mike Clark and Delano Smith show myself, I must concur with Fred 's earlier post about the last 45 mins. of the show, though I thoroughly enjoyed all of Mike's set, and the very tail end (about three tracks or so) of Delano's as well. Though the sound quality of the venue may have been less than stellar, I think Delano played well, if a bit too mid-90's techno-rave-y (which is fine in the right quantity and the right variety of tracks, which he certainly did have). Mike's set was very good. I haven't really enjoyed the brand of (loosely termed) deep house before, the kind of which he played, but given the context and sequence of tracks it ended up being quite enjoyable and varied. Ron Trent's Altered States and some Relief-style tracks also made a very welcome appearance, along with Prince's Controversy. After their show Saturday Mike played at Pink (formerly known as Liquid) Sunday night. Given this town's perceived affinity for ecstasy and drug culture, he fittingly began his set with the Green Velvet track about pills (La La Land). It was fitting for him to play the Abe Duque track What Happened? with Blake Baxter saying what's up to Detroit techno, as the local music scene of late rarely plays host to any Detroit talent, largely favoring and booking the dj's who play the current so called minimal sound instead. But then again, SF has been a trend following city lately. But I digress. More power to the guys who put on Saturday night's show, in a proper venue, where the sound is loud and just a tad bit unclean (in that Theo Parrish kind of way), the roof is made of ruffled tin (giving it that stripped-down warehouse feel) and the location is far away from where the liquored-up yuppies in search of the current cool sound-of-the-moment roam. Wojtek
Re: (313) Mike Agent X Clark and Delano Smith in SF
On Nov 21, 2005, at 9:25 PM, Wojtek wrote: It was fitting for him to play the Abe Duque track What Happened? with Blake Baxter saying what's up to Detroit techno, I love that part.. where he's sort of skeptical in tone of voice, but certainly not throwing in the towel, heh... I feel the same way I guess as the local music scene of late rarely plays host to any Detroit talent, largely favoring and booking the dj's who play the current so called minimal sound instead. But then again, SF has been a trend following city lately. LATELY!?! ;) But yeah i know you what you mean about people calling certain styles of boring click-house as minimal. It kills me when people use that word to describe 2-3 hour DJ yawnfests of the same boring, quasi-glitch-but-not-quite-ACTUALLY-funky lean house tracks. The tracks are never as interesting enough on their own to make a really great set... well usually, anyway. It's a dis-service to the word.. minimal used to mean it had a mental, introspective element. Less was more. (Now, apparently, less is even less?) Minimal was pure techno. Now, I realize that it couldn't last forever because making GOOD minimal techno is/was a lost art. Rob Hood's Minimal Nation, Internal Empire and stuff on M-Plant. Jeff Mills Growth and Cycle 30 records on Axis, some Shake tracks, the stuff on Molecular records, the early Dan Bell material (which Kompakt basically took that sound an made hundreds more records off of it, but none quite as good). There are bright spots of course, but also the 20 more labels that sprang up to imitate even that sound... eesh) With a good minimal record, at least the way I was taught, it doesn't NEED anything else in it, because every trace element of what's in it is so damn funky to begin with. A good minimal record made you a little freaked out, there was a headspace element to it. Even look at something like Basic Channel - Phylps Trak II a looped groove, not much in it... minimal even... but OH so funky. An old head Dr. Attaman once famously described (probably on 313) upon hearing Movable Parts that Rob Hood has the power to make teeny-tiny atoms funky. It has funk and actual INTEREST and appeal in it's very DNA. I'm sorry I'm just not hearing that in the truckload of minimal glitch/cut-up/tech-house I've heard in the last couple years. Desperately waiting for that blah phase to pass, and there's no end in sight. Now as for what people CALL IT, that's up to them of course, but I ain't buyin it. [I just don't get it rant mode off...] I also make no claims to be cutting edge either... So I guess that means I'd take Mike Clark over Michael Mayer ;) peace -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
Re: (313) Tejada/maxwell in SF
On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:35 PM, gretchen anderson wrote: I enjoyed John Tejada and Justin Maxwell quite a bit this weekend. It's interesting that you say that, but to each her/his own, I guess. To me their set wouldn't have been enjoyable if they added five laptops and three analog fx boxes to the sequencers they were operating. What their music lacked in depth and emotion (aside from John Tajada's few emotive but far too short moments) they certainly did not make up for by playing to the crowd, incorporating electro-clash guitar samples and a whole slew of quirky and gimmicky glitch sound. It's also interesting to see how the new so-called minimal sound is considered progressive by some magazine music reviewers, while what can be termed classic techno, or at least the original minimal techno of Hood, Mills, Bell, Shakir and others carries the stigma of being perceived as soulless, repetitive machine music to this day, while exactly the opposite is true of the former and the latter.
(313) Mike Agent X Clark and Delano Smith in SF
On Nov 21, 2005, at 9:25 PM, Wojtek wrote: It was fitting for him to play the Abe Duque track What Happened? with Blake Baxter saying what's up to Detroit techno, I love that part.. where he's sort of skeptical in tone of voice, but certainly not throwing in the towel, heh... I feel the same way I guess as the local music scene of late rarely plays host to any Detroit talent, largely favoring and booking the dj's who play the current so called minimal sound instead. But then again, SF has been a trend following city lately. LATELY!?! ;) But yeah i know you what you mean about people calling certain styles of boring click-house as minimal. It kills me when people use that word to describe 2-3 hour DJ yawnfests of the same boring, quasi-glitch-but-not-quite-ACTUALLY-funky lean house tracks. The tracks are never as interesting enough on their own to make a really great set... well usually, anyway. It's a dis-service to the word.. minimal used to mean it had a mental, introspective element. Less was more. (Now, apparently, less is even less?) Minimal was pure techno. Now, I realize that it couldn't last forever because making GOOD minimal techno is/was a lost art. Rob Hood's Minimal Nation, Internal Empire and stuff on M-Plant. Jeff Mills Growth and Cycle 30 records on Axis, some Shake tracks, the stuff on Molecular records, some Dopplereffekt, even some F.U.S.E., the early Accelerate Records Dan Bell material (which Kompakt basically took that sound an made hundreds more records off of it, but none quite as good). There are bright spots of course, but also the 20 more labels that sprang up to imitate even that sound... eesh) With a good minimal record, at least the way I was taught, it doesn't NEED anything else in it, because every trace element of what's in it is so acutely funky to begin with. A good minimal record made you a little freaked out, there was a headspace element to it. Even look at something like Basic Channel - Phylps Trak II a looped groove, not much in it... minimal even... but OH so funky. An old head Dr. Attaman once famously described (probably on 313) upon hearing Movable Parts that Rob Hood has the power to make teeny-tiny atoms funky. It has funk and actual INTEREST and appeal in it's very DNA. I'm sorry I'm just not hearing that in the truckload of minimal glitch/cut-up/tech-house I've heard in the last couple years. Desperately waiting for that blah phase to pass, and there's no end in sight. Now as for what people CALL IT, that's up to them of course, but I ain't buyin it. [I just don't get it rant mode off...] I also make no claims to be cutting edge either... So I guess that means I'd take Mike Clark over Michael Mayer ;) peace -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
Re: (313) Mike Agent X Clark and Delano Smith in SF
I'd love to chirp in here but I'd sound egotistical. :) +odd --- On Nov 21, 2005, at 11:42 PM, Matt MacQueen wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 9:25 PM, Wojtek wrote: It was fitting for him to play the Abe Duque track What Happened? with Blake Baxter saying what's up to Detroit techno, I love that part.. where he's sort of skeptical in tone of voice, but certainly not throwing in the towel, heh... I feel the same way I guess as the local music scene of late rarely plays host to any Detroit talent, largely favoring and booking the dj's who play the current so called minimal sound instead. But then again, SF has been a trend following city lately. LATELY!?! ;) But yeah i know you what you mean about people calling certain styles of boring click-house as minimal. It kills me when people use that word to describe 2-3 hour DJ yawnfests of the same boring, quasi-glitch-but-not-quite-ACTUALLY-funky lean house tracks. The tracks are never as interesting enough on their own to make a really great set... well usually, anyway. It's a dis-service to the word.. minimal used to mean it had a mental, introspective element. Less was more. (Now, apparently, less is even less?) Minimal was pure techno. Now, I realize that it couldn't last forever because making GOOD minimal techno is/was a lost art. Rob Hood's Minimal Nation, Internal Empire and stuff on M-Plant. Jeff Mills Growth and Cycle 30 records on Axis, some Shake tracks, the stuff on Molecular records, some Dopplereffekt, even some F.U.S.E., the early Accelerate Records Dan Bell material (which Kompakt basically took that sound an made hundreds more records off of it, but none quite as good). There are bright spots of course, but also the 20 more labels that sprang up to imitate even that sound... eesh) With a good minimal record, at least the way I was taught, it doesn't NEED anything else in it, because every trace element of what's in it is so acutely funky to begin with. A good minimal record made you a little freaked out, there was a headspace element to it. Even look at something like Basic Channel - Phylps Trak II a looped groove, not much in it... minimal even... but OH so funky. An old head Dr. Attaman once famously described (probably on 313) upon hearing Movable Parts that Rob Hood has the power to make teeny-tiny atoms funky. It has funk and actual INTEREST and appeal in it's very DNA. I'm sorry I'm just not hearing that in the truckload of minimal glitch/cut-up/tech-house I've heard in the last couple years. Desperately waiting for that blah phase to pass, and there's no end in sight. Now as for what people CALL IT, that's up to them of course, but I ain't buyin it. [I just don't get it rant mode off...] I also make no claims to be cutting edge either... So I guess that means I'd take Mike Clark over Michael Mayer ;) peace -- MM http://sonicsunset.com -- Todd Sines, director + SCALE: http://www.scale.gs/ +1.646.330.4873 studio +1.646.258.5214 mobile 437 Washington Street, NY, NY 10013 // connecting the space between + within.
Re: (313) Mike Agent X Clark and Delano Smith in SF
On Nov 21, 2005, at 11:48 PM, Todd Sines wrote: I'd love to chirp in here but I'd sound egotistical. :) +odd Please channel that inspiration into a full length release Todd. ;-) CD would be nice. -- Ian
(313) someone's been listening to too many dopplereffekt records
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RE: (313) Tejada/maxwell in SF
If you think you heard the use of samples, It's possible they were using the Elektron SPS-1 Machinedrum version, as it has sampling capabilities. Ken -Original Message- From: kate simko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 November 2005 22:02 To: gretchen anderson Cc: Fred Heutte; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Tejada/maxwell in SF They use the Elektron Machinedrum + Monomachine, last I heard. Kate On Monday, November 21, 2005, at 03:35PM, gretchen anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I enjoyed John Tejada and Justin Maxwell quite a bit this weekend. Anyone know what the hardware they are using is? They had identical synth/sampler thingys with no laptop in sight. Gretchen On 11/21/05 12:39 PM, Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notes from a fan . . . I was in San Francisco over the weekend -- primarily to see the Meters, a band which I have a tremendous affinity for. The second record I ever bought (hold on to your socks, kids) in 1969 was Cissy Strut. When musicians talk about a beat being in the pocket, this record kind of defines that. The show was at the Fillmore and ran a little late because of technical problems in the first set, but I thoroughly enjoyed it Ziggy Modeliste has emerged as a real showman and really played it up for his hometown crowd (he's lived in the Bay Area for years), Leo Nocentelli played guitar faster and with more charm than anyone has a right to expect, George Porter -- what can I say, the master of funk bass, and Art Neville is looking and sounding great. They're finishing this mini-tour on Friday night at the new Nokia Theater in Times Square. Although obviously things are still in flux I would expect they'll play Mardi Gras and Jazzfest next year in N.O., and maybe do more touring. I'm pretty much not interested in reunion gigs generally, but these guys are worth seeing and they play fiery hot . . . The show ran late so I went over to Club RX (where yrs truly actually played a little at the tenth anniversary of the Mad techno weekly last Friday), but got there too late to hear John Tejada and Justin Maxwell's live set. On to the Gingerbread Warehouse -- this place is set up as an art-gallery-warehouse-speakeasy in the industrial area off Cesar Chavez. Tables, chairs, a bar with $3 setups and bring-your-own- brown-bag-baby, which sounds good but I have to say it was rather antiseptic, and the place was only half-full and not very much excitement. Delano Smith was playing when I arrived, pretty OK but not thrilling. Mike Clark started around 2:45 and I stayed until he finished at 4:30. The last 45 minutes were pretty darn good and he had at least a few of us out on the floor. I have to say, though, that alcohol has become the focal point of the dance music scene in SF to an unprecedented extent. Don't get me wrong, I like mine as much as anyone, but instead of contributing to party-hearty looseness it just has become a big distraction. So I hope Delano and Mike had a good time, and it was worth it being in SF this weekend with the 75 degree sunny weather no matter what, but I do wish there was more of a crowd ready for serious music action. Fred kate simko site* http://www.katesimko.com downloads/ links* http://homepage.mac.com/ksimko/File_Sharing out now: Remix of Philip Glass Houston Skyline (OMM) (http://www.glasscutsremix.com) out soon: Iguazu 7 (Chocolate Industries - Spring 06)
Re: (313) Tejada/Maxwell in SF
But then again, what else can you expect from a promotion company that spells the word control with a K and uses photoshop to make the producers it books appear otherworldly, quirky, and cool. On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:35 PM, gretchen anderson wrote: I enjoyed John Tejada and Justin Maxwell quite a bit this weekend. It's interesting that you say that, but to each her/his own, I guess. To me their set wouldn't have been enjoyable if they added five laptops and three analog fx boxes to the sequencers they were operating. What their music lacked in depth and emotion (aside from John Tajada's few emotive but far too short moments) they certainly did not make up for by playing to the crowd, incorporating electro-clash guitar samples and a whole slew of quirky and gimmicky glitch sounds. It's also interesting to see how the new so-called minimal sound is considered progressive by some magazine music reviewers, while what can be termed classic techno, or at least the original minimal techno of Hood, Mills, Bell, Shakir and others carries the stigma of being perceived as soulless, repetitive machine music to this day, while exactly the opposite is true of the former and the latter.
Re: (313) Tejada/maxwell in SF
On Mon, November 21, 2005 10:35 pm, Wojtek said: the original minimal techno of Hood, Mills, Bell, Shakir and others carries the stigma of being perceived as soulless, repetitive machine music to this day, while exactly the opposite is true of the former and the latter. WELL, boy am I glad I've got guys like you to set me straight on such things! -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) Tejada/maxwell in SF
And I'm glad that you quoted a fragment of my sentence out of context! boy oh boy! On Nov 22, 2005, at 4:27 AM, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: On Mon, November 21, 2005 10:35 pm, Wojtek said: the original minimal techno of Hood, Mills, Bell, Shakir and others carries the stigma of being perceived as soulless, repetitive machine music to this day, while exactly the opposite is true of the former and the latter. WELL, boy am I glad I've got guys like you to set me straight on such things! -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) someone's been listening to too many dopplereffekt records
Yes they have been.. ;) Hard to belive that one could be concederd a sex offender for trying to hump a mannequin.. I did not know that mannequins had rights... My how times have changed.. On Nov 22, 2005, at 4:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-13466788,00.html _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) someone's been listening to too many dopplereffekt records
Come on Alex, that's one good looking mannequin. On 11/22/05, vmax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes they have been.. ;) Hard to belive that one could be concederd a sex offender for trying to hump a mannequin.. I did not know that mannequins had rights... My how times have changed.. On Nov 22, 2005, at 4:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-13466788,00.html _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) someone's been listening to too many dopplereffekt records
Come on Alex, that's one good looking mannequin TRUE! : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) someone's been listening to too many dopplereffekt records
p.s. I have a cupboard full of mannequins at home. don't tell the law. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Laurent Garnier and UR
I don't know which funster on here recently said that Laurent Garnier was just as boring as Carl Cox but last Saturday mr. Garnier played a pretty impressive set. Playing some floorfillers as well as some deeper stuff but then anyone who plays Psychotic Funk from Stacey Pullen is my hero anyway ;) Oh and the liveset from G2G/Los Hermanos was def. the best set i heard the guys play! If you don't have your ticket for the Liverpool show yet get them ASAP! That live version of the Jaguar is rocking, might i say that it is even better then the original one. KJ
RE: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
That reminds me - I believe UR's set in Liverpool will be recorded and broadcast on the Mary Anne Hobbs show on the 29th of November -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 November 2005 14:38 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR I don't know which funster on here recently said that Laurent Garnier was just as boring as Carl Cox but last Saturday mr. Garnier played a pretty impressive set. Playing some floorfillers as well as some deeper stuff but then anyone who plays Psychotic Funk from Stacey Pullen is my hero anyway ;) Oh and the liveset from G2G/Los Hermanos was def. the best set i heard the guys play! If you don't have your ticket for the Liverpool show yet get them ASAP! That live version of the Jaguar is rocking, might i say that it is even better then the original one. KJ # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
That reminds me - I believe UR's set in Liverpool will be recorded and broadcast on the Mary Anne Hobbs show on the 29th of November *cue alex making a £50 bet that he can get on radio 1 by shouting something absoloutely ridiculous at a quiet un-editable point* _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
dare ya! Something like 'Acme Funk' -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 November 2005 14:47 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR That reminds me - I believe UR's set in Liverpool will be recorded and broadcast on the Mary Anne Hobbs show on the 29th of November *cue alex making a £50 bet that he can get on radio 1 by shouting something absoloutely ridiculous at a quiet un-editable point* _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
does anyone have a pocket sized ACME rave megaphone I can borrow? will take good care of it. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Strand launches new website
Taken from: http://technotourist.org/modules.php? op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=814 Strand has officially launched its website, harbonder, and with very little fanfare, cordially invites you to visit our new home on the web. Some of you are wondering who the hell we are and visiting the website might not make it any clearer. What's important is you're aware of its existence and in time will come to love it and look forward to the jaw-dropping music and visuals it offers. The current collection of songs is made up of classic material dating back to 2000 Strand: We at harbonder feel that content is king. It's all about the music...and the pretty pictures. If you don't find something you like now, bookmark the page and visit periodically. We're working on new material that we promise will impress, intrigue, amaze, relax, infuriate, beautify, and moisturize. Be prepared to have your mind stretched to at least twice its normal size. You will need at least Flash Player 7 (to view the site) and Quicktime 7 (to view the movies). http://www.harbonder.com
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
Try singing I am a soulraver when the guys play soulsaver and knock Gerald of stage... On 22-nov-2005, at 15:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does anyone have a pocket sized ACME rave megaphone I can borrow? will take good care of it. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
how about something like 313 is full of reactionaries! just joking... ;)) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:46 PM Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR That reminds me - I believe UR's set in Liverpool will be recorded and broadcast on the Mary Anne Hobbs show on the 29th of November *cue alex making a £50 bet that he can get on radio 1 by shouting something absoloutely ridiculous at a quiet un-editable point* _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) A88
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Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
what about this: http://www.havetohaveitstore.com/tnpocmeg-50.html c* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does anyone have a pocket sized ACME rave megaphone I can borrow? will take good care of it. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
It's gotta be: 'Play something upliftin''! ;-) Ken -Original Message- From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 November 2005 15:01 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR how about something like 313 is full of reactionaries! just joking... ;)) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:46 PM Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR That reminds me - I believe UR's set in Liverpool will be recorded and broadcast on the Mary Anne Hobbs show on the 29th of November *cue alex making a £50 bet that he can get on radio 1 by shouting something absoloutely ridiculous at a quiet un-editable point* _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
thanks for all those who have expressed concern. i'd just like to point out that I'm not really going to do it and it is infact a little joke to make the day pass quicker, and I won't infact actually be wasting your 'hard earned 15 quid' (like I get my 15 quid by working not hard etc) thanks _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Mike Agent X Clark and Delano Smith in SF
I'm working on it. .xtrak + new material from me + Natacha Labelle. ;) +odd -- On Nov 22, 2005, at 12:46 AM, Ian Malbon wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 11:48 PM, Todd Sines wrote: I'd love to chirp in here but I'd sound egotistical. :) +odd Please channel that inspiration into a full length release Todd. ;-) CD would be nice. -- Ian -- Todd Sines, director + SCALE: http://www.scale.gs/ +1.646.330.4873 studio +1.646.258.5214 mobile 437 Washington Street, NY, NY 10013 // connecting the space between + within.
RE: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
No please do it - don't chicken out now! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 November 2005 15:19 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR thanks for all those who have expressed concern. i'd just like to point out that I'm not really going to do it and it is infact a little joke to make the day pass quicker, and I won't infact actually be wasting your 'hard earned 15 quid' (like I get my 15 quid by working not hard etc) thanks _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) Mike Agent X Clark and Delano Smith in SF
now this is good news.:) - Original Message - From: Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:19 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mike Agent X Clark and Delano Smith in SF I'm working on it. .xtrak
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
Sorry to ruin the fun, but that recording isn't going ahead unfortunately :( That reminds me - I believe UR's set in Liverpool will be recorded and broadcast on the Mary Anne Hobbs show on the 29th of November
RE: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
Boo! That's a shame -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 November 2005 15:35 To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313 313 Subject: Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR Sorry to ruin the fun, but that recording isn't going ahead unfortunately :( That reminds me - I believe UR's set in Liverpool will be recorded and broadcast on the Mary Anne Hobbs show on the 29th of November # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
Damn, was already looking forward to it and had already put it in my calendar! :o) N -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 November 2005 15:35 To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313 313 Subject: Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR Sorry to ruin the fun, but that recording isn't going ahead unfortunately :( That reminds me - I believe UR's set in Liverpool will be recorded and broadcast on the Mary Anne Hobbs show on the 29th of November
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
Not my call unfortunately. On 22 Nov 2005, at 15:39, Neil Tomlinson wrote: Damn, was already looking forward to it and had already put it in my calendar! :o) N -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 November 2005 15:35 To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313 313 Subject: Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR Sorry to ruin the fun, but that recording isn't going ahead unfortunately :( That reminds me - I believe UR's set in Liverpool will be recorded and broadcast on the Mary Anne Hobbs show on the 29th of November
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
Not my call unfortunately. well I'm a license payer *cough cough* and I demand the bbc record u.r. it's in the public interest (all 0.1% of us). _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Hawtin party in a trash compactor?
wait a minute, I clearly remember being at a hawtin party where the walls were moving. :) Garrett McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ceilings have moved. walls... don't think so. On Nov 20, 2005, at 4:49 PM, David Gillies wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Hindle wrote: I was talking to a friend recently who told me that back in the day, Richie Hawtin threw/played at a party that was held in a giant trash compactor a la Star Wars, and that as the night progressed the walls got closer and closer. Is there any truth to this story? Does anyone know any more about this? That sounds like one of his parties called Compress There was an article about it in some mag (Generator perhaps???). My recollection was that it wasn't in a trash compactor, but that mearly the roof lowed as the night went on with it by the end of the night being low enough for the punters to touch. - -- dave. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDgRmshPPdWeHRgaoRAuNRAJ9O6nZzhEGDDxI957zemm9o9/IG1ACfVPDi VXN/yDwNWorTemEj84kZAD0= =oxRc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
I reckon it's better that they don't, if you wanna hear them, go see them live, you gotta make the journey - isn't that what UR are all about? m On 22 Nov 2005, at 15:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not my call unfortunately. well I'm a license payer *cough cough* and I demand the bbc record u.r. it's in the public interest (all 0.1% of us). _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
I reckon it's better that they don't, if you wanna hear them, go see them live, you gotta make the journey - isn't that what UR are all about? well, I was only joking actually, but, i'll take the bait. why?! they sound hot recorded live! surely if this was played on radio one, and just one kid decided they were worth seeing or took an interest in their records, then it would be worthwhile no? can't see your reasoning at all really there martin. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
What? Playing in places that the hoi polloi can't get to? ;) -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 November 2005 15:54 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR I reckon it's better that they don't, if you wanna hear them, go see them live, you gotta make the journey - isn't that what UR are all about? m On 22 Nov 2005, at 15:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not my call unfortunately. well I'm a license payer *cough cough* and I demand the bbc record u.r. it's in the public interest (all 0.1% of us). _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
True, but not everyone can get to Liverpool + a Breezeblock session would introduce them to a new (and v. young) audience. Whether you think they should be reaching a wider audience is another story, though my impression is that UR themselves wish to do so. On 22 Nov 2005, at 15:54, Martin Dust wrote: I reckon it's better that they don't, if you wanna hear them, go see them live, you gotta make the journey - isn't that what UR are all about? m On 22 Nov 2005, at 15:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not my call unfortunately. well I'm a license payer *cough cough* and I demand the bbc record u.r. it's in the public interest (all 0.1% of us). _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
On 22-nov-2005, at 16:54, Martin Dust wrote: I reckon it's better that they don't, if you wanna hear them, go see them live, you gotta make the journey - isn't that what UR are all about? Indeed, and it is also f*cking expensive to get a 7 people band over so i bet that voodoo needs every single tickets sold.
(313) mix WNUR chicago - Tell Me That I'm Dreaming
Clinically Inclined 11 Nov 2005:Tell Me That I'm Dreaming Fridays 9:30pm - 12:30am, 89.3 FM WNUR Chicago Download from http://SonicSunset.com Part Boogie down funk from a fringe solar system. Detroit house, moog disco, kosmonavt computing and sweat dropletts in the strobe light. Plus, new bubbling deep space grooves from I:Cube and Chateau Flight on a forthcoming Versatile compilation. Part 2 jack's back with larry heard, leaving mellowed-out sounds from yotoko in their wake. they're followed up with some softer night moves from luke slater, black dog pulling out the stops on one of their finest remixes, and inigo kennedy showing a penchant for gorgeous pads at high velocity. WAIT! :)While you're listening to this weeks show, take a second to put yourself on our NEW map! http://frappr.com/sonicsunset The map is also linked from our homepage. See who else is orbiting this tiny planet! Part 1 Matt MacQueen I:Cube - Taurus [Hot Shot Edit] - Hot Shots (Versatile) The Boogie Boys - A Fly Girl (Capitol) Hiro Ohta - Kakera [Yoav B Mix] (Miso) Steve Bender - The Final Thing (London Disco) Was (Not Was) - Tell Me That I'm Dreaming [Souped-Up Version] (Ze) Rick Wilhite - What Do You See [MM Mix] - Soul Edge (KDJ) Moodymann - A1 - Don't Be Misled (KDJ) Sade - Pearls re-edit (boot) Ron Trent- untitled - Dark Room (Balance) Dubious - Concrete Tan (Dubious) Chateau Flight feat. Marie Daulne - Superflight [Maurice Fulton Remix] (Versatile) Boris Midney - D-D-D-Dance [Instr.] (Mi) The Juan MacLean - Give Me Every Little Thing [Eric Broucek dub] (DFA) Plez - I Can't Stop [Acid Rain Forest Mix] (Warp) Critical Rhythm - An Illusion (Nu Groove) Part 2 Dave Siska gemini - psychosis (cajual) jack da ripper - jack's back (circuit) fingers inc - mystery of dub (dj international) yotoko - all creation (delsin) shades of black - deeper still (intrigue) 1990 csm - the way (reel) luke slater - expectation no 1 - 92-94 (peacefrog) motor - 9 (audio.nl) fluxion - multidirectional i (chain reaction) vladislav delay - neo - helsinki/suomi (max ernst) studio pankow - linienbusse - linienbusse (city centre offices) alter ego - tanksahead [black dog rmx] (harthouse) reload + e621 - ptysch - theory of evolution (warp) inigo kennedy - entertaining accidents (asymmetric mp3) il.ek.tro - v-ger - two (klang) 2000 and one - crystal - belongings ep (100% pure) shake - sonar 123 (peacefrog) Audio archives at http://SonicSunset.com --- Clinically Inclined is mixed live on air, 89.3 FM in Chicago every Friday night.
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
Just going on what Mike has said in interviews and the way he usually works and it wasn't bait of any kind and I could be completely wrong but that's the vibe I was getting... On 22 Nov 2005, at 15:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I reckon it's better that they don't, if you wanna hear them, go see them live, you gotta make the journey - isn't that what UR are all about? well, I was only joking actually, but, i'll take the bait. why?! they sound hot recorded live! surely if this was played on radio one, and just one kid decided they were worth seeing or took an interest in their records, then it would be worthwhile no? can't see your reasoning at all really there martin. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
On 22 Nov 2005, at 15:59, Dan Bean wrote: True, but not everyone can get to Liverpool + a Breezeblock session would introduce them to a new (and v. young) audience. Whether you think they should be reaching a wider audience is another story, though my impression is that UR themselves wish to do so. Mike does things on his own terms as far as I can tell and probably wouldn't give two sh1ts about being on Radio 1... m On 22 Nov 2005, at 15:54, Martin Dust wrote: I reckon it's better that they don't, if you wanna hear them, go see them live, you gotta make the journey - isn't that what UR are all about? m On 22 Nov 2005, at 15:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not my call unfortunately. well I'm a license payer *cough cough* and I demand the bbc record u.r. it's in the public interest (all 0.1% of us). _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
Crikey KJ - I reckon that's the first time we've agreed on anything :) On 22 Nov 2005, at 16:00, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: On 22-nov-2005, at 16:54, Martin Dust wrote: I reckon it's better that they don't, if you wanna hear them, go see them live, you gotta make the journey - isn't that what UR are all about? Indeed, and it is also f*cking expensive to get a 7 people band over so i bet that voodoo needs every single tickets sold.
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
and it wasn't bait of any kind I know 1) I think if U.R. live (reportedly the best live techno show anyone has seen) was broadcast on uk radio, it would be good for 'proper' techno. i.e. the peeps who think techno is something else might catch it and think 'oh thats actually quite good'. 2) all I wanted to do was to tape it off the radio as a momento of my night _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
I've got nowt to do with UR but it obvious that they've said no. I don't really agree with this proper' stance either, you may not like D.A.V.E the Drummer and his ilk but he sells more than most Detroit tracks so someone must like it and think it's proper. It would be great if it was broadcast, but I'd figure that it would have to be a pirate station rather than some commercial set up, people will always find want they want if they look hard enough, UR have never taken the easy way out as far as I can tell. m On 22 Nov 2005, at 16:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and it wasn't bait of any kind I know 1) I think if U.R. live (reportedly the best live techno show anyone has seen) was broadcast on uk radio, it would be good for 'proper' techno. i.e. the peeps who think techno is something else might catch it and think 'oh thats actually quite good'. 2) all I wanted to do was to tape it off the radio as a momento of my night _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Tejada/Maxwell in SF
hey now. no one says you have to love the music, but that's a bit out of order. no reason to take potshots at the kontrol peeps just for following a couple techno conventions/cliches. these guys put the on night out of a love of the music at a time when no one else in SF would touch the more avante side of techno/techhouse. luckily for the rest of us who just show up once a month, it's been successful and FUN. -d --- Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But then again, what else can you expect from a promotion company that spells the word control with a K and uses photoshop to make the producers it books appear otherworldly, quirky, and cool. On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:35 PM, gretchen anderson wrote: I enjoyed John Tejada and Justin Maxwell quite a bit this weekend. It's interesting that you say that, but to each her/his own, I guess. To me their set wouldn't have been enjoyable if they added five laptops and three analog fx boxes to the sequencers they were operating. What their music lacked in depth and emotion (aside from John Tajada's few emotive but far too short moments) they certainly did not make up for by playing to the crowd, incorporating electro-clash guitar samples and a whole slew of quirky and gimmicky glitch sounds. It's also interesting to see how the new so-called minimal sound is considered progressive by some magazine music reviewers, while what can be termed classic techno, or at least the original minimal techno of Hood, Mills, Bell, Shakir and others carries the stigma of being perceived as soulless, repetitive machine music to this day, while exactly the opposite is true of the former and the latter.
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
I don't really agree with this proper' stance either, you may not like D.A.V.E the Drummer and his ilk but he sells more than most Detroit tracks so someone must like it and think it's proper 'proper' was the wrong choice of word. I should have said our sort of techno. for what its worth, I gave up thinking one sort of techno was better than the other a long time ago. just a slip of words there. It would be great if it was broadcast, but I'd figure that it would have to be a pirate station rather than some commercial set up, people will always find want they want if they look hard enough, UR have never taken the easy way out as far as I can tell. they've been on the RADIO ONE BREEZEBLOCK live already - earlier this year. just one or two tracks? from demf. but I'd figure that it would have to be a pirate station rather than some commercial set up most pirate radio stations round here sell adverts so they can keep going. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
FW: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
-Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 November 2005 15:00 Try singing I am a soulraver when the guys play soulsaver and knock Gerald of stage... Good lord don't get him started - some of us actually want to see UR not yet another Look out Alex is on the stage / top of the speaker stack performance.
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier and UR
On 22 Nov 2005, at 16:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't really agree with this proper' stance either, you may not like D.A.V.E the Drummer and his ilk but he sells more than most Detroit tracks so someone must like it and think it's proper 'proper' was the wrong choice of word. I should have said our sort of techno. for what its worth, I gave up thinking one sort of techno was better than the other a long time ago. just a slip of words there. No worries fella, I'm just bored with the stance thing and people just running with the pack at the moment, just grumpy me... It would be great if it was broadcast, but I'd figure that it would have to be a pirate station rather than some commercial set up, people will always find want they want if they look hard enough, UR have never taken the easy way out as far as I can tell. they've been on the RADIO ONE BREEZEBLOCK live already - earlier this year. just one or two tracks? from demf. I can't answer for Mike, I can only give my opinion - for what it's worth... but I'd figure that it would have to be a pirate station rather than some commercial set up most pirate radio stations round here sell adverts so they can keep going. Different tho aint it :)
RE: (313) Tejada/Maxwell in SF
I second that. Kontrol peepz put on a great nite out!! last month was magda, last weekend was tejada, and next month is dan bell. what more can we ask for in the bay area? =) thx greg and the others! -Original Message- From: dave cronin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 8:51 AM To: Wojtek; gretchen anderson; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Tejada/Maxwell in SF hey now. no one says you have to love the music, but that's a bit out of order. no reason to take potshots at the kontrol peeps just for following a couple techno conventions/cliches. these guys put the on night out of a love of the music at a time when no one else in SF would touch the more avante side of techno/techhouse. luckily for the rest of us who just show up once a month, it's been successful and FUN. -d --- Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But then again, what else can you expect from a promotion company that spells the word control with a K and uses photoshop to make the producers it books appear otherworldly, quirky, and cool. On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:35 PM, gretchen anderson wrote: I enjoyed John Tejada and Justin Maxwell quite a bit this weekend. It's interesting that you say that, but to each her/his own, I guess. To me their set wouldn't have been enjoyable if they added five laptops and three analog fx boxes to the sequencers they were operating. What their music lacked in depth and emotion (aside from John Tajada's few emotive but far too short moments) they certainly did not make up for by playing to the crowd, incorporating electro-clash guitar samples and a whole slew of quirky and gimmicky glitch sounds. It's also interesting to see how the new so-called minimal sound is considered progressive by some magazine music reviewers, while what can be termed classic techno, or at least the original minimal techno of Hood, Mills, Bell, Shakir and others carries the stigma of being perceived as soulless, repetitive machine music to this day, while exactly the opposite is true of the former and the latter.
Re: (313) Tejada/maxwell in SF and current 93
Since there is so much of a thread on this show, my 2 cents are this...it was alright, some moments of excellence and a lot of what I would describe as repetative filler. I thought that it was weird that they were playing a live set but were more or less playing some other peoples' trax like 'house of god without the vocals ;). I was sometimes bored which I blamed on their house music pandering of the SF audience, but then they managed to rescue my attention and feet later in their set. Review of minimal in general, what a bunch of sour grapes. Odviously modern Mnl is built on a detroit and experimental foundation and sometimes lacks the soul distinctions of the original sounds. But I think that it is moving forward with the sound. I am happy that people move forward with music. It is also great because artists like rob hood and jeff mills are the establishment of sound and aren't really accessable to be bringing out to play at small gallery spaces. Alcohol and San francisco, the most memorable part of tejada was going to the bathroom where it appeared someone had throwup on the urine soaked floor and it just smelled really bad and you sort of had to hold the walls so you didn't fall down. That is a party, right? I like drunk folks they have no shame and less motor kontrol, so sometimes they need to be shoved, that is punk rock eh? I thought it was great to be in a really packed space, and i actually like drunks over drug victims. If a drunk passes out you just turn them on their side so they don't drown in their vomit, while if a ghb user passes out you call an ambulence. San Francisco is doing all right, better than anytime in the last 5-7 years. There is usually somebody worth seeing every month. Next month Dan bell and lowfish, quit complaining and start dancing. BTW Current 93 shows here were really great and pretentious as hell, but he did alot of stuff related to jhon balance. There was some new Nurse With Wound material that they played to bring on the band that was exquisite and very electronicly driven, drool. I got to talk to steven stapleton for a little while and that was really swell. Supposedly, there are going to be Nurse with Wound current 93 shows here in the spring. tom kat
Re: (313) Tejada/Maxwell in SF
On Nov 22, 2005, at 8:50 AM, dave cronin wrote: hey now. no one says you have to love the music, but that's a bit out of order. no reason to take potshots at the kontrol peeps just for following a couple techno conventions/cliches. I don't have anything personal against the promoters, but if you advertise your company as booking Minimal techno and avant house talent, then you should do that, and not limit yourself to producers who happen to be trendy/popular at the moment and associated with Hawtin, or his label as the two shows in a row that Kontrol will be putting on after Dan Bell are. If that's not riding the trend as opposed being really dedicated to the overall minimal techno genre, then I don't know what is. these guys put the on night out of a love of the music at a time when no one else in SF would touch the more avante side of techno/techhouse. luckily for the rest of us who just show up once a month, it's been successful and FUN. What time are you speaking of? 1999 or thereabouts? when Perlon and Playhouse just began putting out its trademark sound? To my knowledge these guys (Kontrol promoters) have been around for about a year, and other promoters (blasthaus for example) have been booking microhouse producers for a while (Hawtin, Matthew Dear). It's not like apendics.shuffle (or however you spell his name) and Orac had albums out more than a year ago (or that large of a body of work for that matter), which brings me to my point, that they're cashing on a current trend while ignoring talent which inspired the whole minimal scene in the process. -d --- Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But then again, what else can you expect from a promotion company that spells the word control with a K and uses photoshop to make the producers it books appear otherworldly, quirky, and cool. On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:35 PM, gretchen anderson wrote: I enjoyed John Tejada and Justin Maxwell quite a bit this weekend. It's interesting that you say that, but to each her/his own, I guess. To me their set wouldn't have been enjoyable if they added five laptops and three analog fx boxes to the sequencers they were operating. What their music lacked in depth and emotion (aside from John Tajada's few emotive but far too short moments) they certainly did not make up for by playing to the crowd, incorporating electro-clash guitar samples and a whole slew of quirky and gimmicky glitch sounds. It's also interesting to see how the new so-called minimal sound is considered progressive by some magazine music reviewers, while what can be termed classic techno, or at least the original minimal techno of Hood, Mills, Bell, Shakir and others carries the stigma of being perceived as soulless, repetitive machine music to this day, while exactly the opposite is true of the former and the latter.
Re: (313) Tejada/Maxwell in SF
On Nov 22, 2005, at 9:35 AM, Clifton Dobbie wrote: I second that. Kontrol peepz put on a great nite out!! last month was magda, last weekend was tejada, and next month is dan bell. what more can we ask for in the bay area? =) More diversity in the techno maybe? Some minimal artists that have a larger body body of work maybe? (Dan Bell excluded) More than just flavor of the month glitch-house artists for a start? That would be a start. thx greg and the others! -Original Message- From: dave cronin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 8:51 AM To: Wojtek; gretchen anderson; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Tejada/Maxwell in SF hey now. no one says you have to love the music, but that's a bit out of order. no reason to take potshots at the kontrol peeps just for following a couple techno conventions/cliches. these guys put the on night out of a love of the music at a time when no one else in SF would touch the more avante side of techno/techhouse. luckily for the rest of us who just show up once a month, it's been successful and FUN. -d --- Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But then again, what else can you expect from a promotion company that spells the word control with a K and uses photoshop to make the producers it books appear otherworldly, quirky, and cool. On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:35 PM, gretchen anderson wrote: I enjoyed John Tejada and Justin Maxwell quite a bit this weekend. It's interesting that you say that, but to each her/his own, I guess. To me their set wouldn't have been enjoyable if they added five laptops and three analog fx boxes to the sequencers they were operating. What their music lacked in depth and emotion (aside from John Tajada's few emotive but far too short moments) they certainly did not make up for by playing to the crowd, incorporating electro-clash guitar samples and a whole slew of quirky and gimmicky glitch sounds. It's also interesting to see how the new so-called minimal sound is considered progressive by some magazine music reviewers, while what can be termed classic techno, or at least the original minimal techno of Hood, Mills, Bell, Shakir and others carries the stigma of being perceived as soulless, repetitive machine music to this day, while exactly the opposite is true of the former and the latter.
Re: (313) Tejada/Maxwell in SF
On Nov 22, 2005, at 9:35 AM, Clifton Dobbie wrote: I second that. Kontrol peepz put on a great nite out!! last month was magda, last weekend was tejada, and next month is dan bell. what more can we ask for in the bay area? =) Would be nice to see artists other than the ones associated with Hawtin's and Villalobos's labels, for starters. thx greg and the others! -Original Message- From: dave cronin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 8:51 AM To: Wojtek; gretchen anderson; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Tejada/Maxwell in SF hey now. no one says you have to love the music, but that's a bit out of order. no reason to take potshots at the kontrol peeps just for following a couple techno conventions/cliches. these guys put the on night out of a love of the music at a time when no one else in SF would touch the more avante side of techno/techhouse. luckily for the rest of us who just show up once a month, it's been successful and FUN. -d --- Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But then again, what else can you expect from a promotion company that spells the word control with a K and uses photoshop to make the producers it books appear otherworldly, quirky, and cool. On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:35 PM, gretchen anderson wrote: I enjoyed John Tejada and Justin Maxwell quite a bit this weekend. It's interesting that you say that, but to each her/his own, I guess. To me their set wouldn't have been enjoyable if they added five laptops and three analog fx boxes to the sequencers they were operating. What their music lacked in depth and emotion (aside from John Tajada's few emotive but far too short moments) they certainly did not make up for by playing to the crowd, incorporating electro-clash guitar samples and a whole slew of quirky and gimmicky glitch sounds. It's also interesting to see how the new so-called minimal sound is considered progressive by some magazine music reviewers, while what can be termed classic techno, or at least the original minimal techno of Hood, Mills, Bell, Shakir and others carries the stigma of being perceived as soulless, repetitive machine music to this day, while exactly the opposite is true of the former and the latter.
RE: (313) Tejada/Maxwell in SF
I second that. Kontrol peepz put on a great nite out!! last month was magda, last weekend was tejada, and next month is dan bell. what more can we ask for in the bay area? =) Not sure about the bay, but for what it's worth (not much probably) when I've seen them... magda plays just slightly warmer hawtin sets, tejada usually plays awesomely produced cold/flat glitch sets with a few moments of Detroit and excitement thrown in, and the last two times I've heard dan bell play, it could very well have been zip, or ark if I'd have closed my eyes (though all of them are hot, I'd like to hear more personality at that level of play). I really dig the minimal sound both new and old, but I really get upset at people using an established label to describe something very different without noting the differences. That's how you get kids 5 years down the line arguing that losing control is old school not minimal and that real minimal is done by akufen. KKS
(313) Kooky Scientist Unlockedgroove in NYC this Friday
Friday November 25 ***THE BUNKER*** Unlockedgroove Label Launch Party - Kooky Scientist (Plus8, Telepathic | Boston) live pa Smartypants vs. Scorchio (Unlockedgroove | Boston) You know Smartypants and Scorchio from many appearances at zer0 g nights at the Bunker. Tonight we celebrate the launch of their own label, Unlockedgroove. The first release is a compilation that gives a peak at all of the artists involved in the label: Smartypants, Gys, Rainbow Bright, The Six Million Dollar Dan, Scorchio, and Local Fields. Tonight, Smartypants Heemin Yang, both great DJs, will be treating us to a tagteam set. http://unlockedgroove.com/ Headlining the night with a live set is techno legend Fred Giannelli aka The Kooky Scientist. Fred released many classic tracks on Richie Hawtin and John Acquaviva's Plus 8 imprint, and collaborated with Dan Bell as Spawn on Probe (a Plus 8 offshoot). He is still busy producing and playing out at every techno club that matters. He recently released a great 12 on Sub Static, and has a remix on an upcoming Unlockedgroove release. http://www.telepathica.com/ plus ... resident DJs: Spinoza, Unjust, Movement visualists: Chris Jordan, Giles Hendrix Fridays at subTonic 107 Norfolk Street (212)358-7501 www.klever.org/thebunkernyc $5, 21+, 10p-4a UPCOMING: 12/02: Ben Milstein (e.l.m., Touchin' Bass | Portland) Aaron Spectre (Mashit, Moonbunny, Deathsucker | Berlin) 12/16: Oliver Hacke (Traum, Trapez | Dusseldorf) Deadbeat (~scape | Montreal) Jordan Dare (Montreal) 12/23: Jwan Allen (Technoir | Pittsburgh) Feathericci (Santa Fe) 01/06: Elliott Golden (NYC) Blue Spectral Monkey (Orangebrainunlimited | NC)
