(313) Wang party - Squarepusher/Bolz Bolz
just dropped in my mailbox - Saturday 1st April 2006 Line-up so far is: Squarepusher - Oldschool DJ Set The legend that is Tom Jenkinson puts down his bass guitar for an evening and takes us on an epic journey through his own personal record collection, encompassing the whole history of 90s dance music from acid house, through essex 'ardkore, to mentalist d'n'b. Bolz Bolz - live Bolz Bolz is best known for the breaktrough electro track and oldtime wang electro anthem 'Take a walk', he is also responsible for the World Electric, Formic, and Electrocord labels. He has been pushing the boundarys between techno and electro since 1991, and has been responsible for countless dirty analogue belters. Expect a tearing live set. Ed Chamberlain (WANG) + George 'Skull' Hull (Lockgrooves and laptop tag-team mashup from WANG regulars) Lula & Electro Elvis (WANG) More guests TBC Our new venue is 100% confirmed, it's a large former boozer in east london, located at 25 White Post Lane, Hackney E9 5EN, right next door to Hackney Wick train station (on the Silverlink line, between Highbury and Islington tube and Stratford tube stations). The 26, 30, 236, 276, 388 and S2 buses also all stop right nearby. The Fairshare Unity Sound System will be in full effect with no noise restrictions, and we've got a full on intelligent lightshow lined up specially for ya. Bar prices will be cheap as chips (e.g. £2 for a cold can of decent larger, or a spirit and mixer, etc.) and the venue will have our normal laidback friendly atmosphere (strictly no moody bouncers) Capacity is strictly limited and we're sure it's gonna be a belter so get there early to avoid disappointment. In the past just knowing where the party was, and smiling upon arrival was enough to prove membership, but due to the move to a new venue this is unfortunately going to have to change. In order to stop us getting shut down (and to keep out any undesirables), we will once again would ask you to fill out a membership form and bring it with you on the night, THOSE OF YOU WHO CAME TO THE LAST PARTY ARE ALREADY MEMBERS AND DONT NEED TO FILL THIS FORM IN AGAIN, WE WILL HAVE A LIST OF NAMES AT THE DOOR AND WILL BE GIVING YOU YOUR MEMBERSHIP WANG CARDS ON THE NIGHT. If you did not attend the first night, a Word doc is available for download from this website, that is a 'Membership renewal application form'. You simply fill in you name, address and email address and print out and bring to the party. We will then email you to confirm the email address is valid and upon receipt of a reply from you, we will post you out your membership cards. We know it's a bit of a pain in the arse, but you only have to do it once, and we hope you'll think it's worthwhile when you see the new venue, and feel the old vibe... Entry will be £7 plus a special introductory £3 membership (that you only pay once, to cover the cost of the membership card, postage etc.) PRE-PARTY ACTION AT THE GRIFFIN FROM 8PM WITH MAT VERNON, NC AND A FEW OTHER WANG GUESTS. WE'RE BACK! WANG - Less of a club, more of a party!
(313) Vault Radio - March 22, 2006
Please click the link to reply to me directly: www.antonbanks.com/email.html My show airs live tonight about 3 hours after this message was sent. The last four programs are always archived online. Visit www.antonbanks.com/show.htm to hear them. CLICK THE LINK TO HEAR THE SHOW http://www.antonbanks.com/audio/03-22-06.mp3 Dan Curtin, Peach, We Are The Ones We've Been Looking For, Headspace Isolee, Djamel Et Jamshid (Villalobos Edit), The Western Edits Pt 1, Playhouse Alex Smoke, Never Want To Se You Again, Paradolia, Soma The Separatists, Krochit, Percy X Presents, Soma Dapayk, Nasty Things, Giornata, Friends Of Tomorrow Mud Max, Roller Toaster, Hunger Ep, Ware Isolee, Lost (And Then Stripped By The Glimmers), The Western Edits Pt. 1, Playhouse Number One Son Vs. Adultnapper, Sold Out, Matter Form Dan Curtin, Don't Wait, We Are The Ones We've Been Looking For, Headspace Reese Project, Direct Me (Rees Groove Mix), Giant Yellow, Jungle Bill, (Big Pig Shuffle Mix), Smash Unspecified Enemies, Multi Ordinal Tracking Unit, Subject Detroit, Eukahouse Damon Jee & Oliver Giacomotto, Jamon Y Queso, Tora Tora Tora Matt French, Mateo Murphy Remix, Crt Remixes, Surveillance Justin Berkovi, Subvert (Christian Wunsch Rmx), Rising, Music Man Karl O'Connor & Peter Sutton, Meat, Against Nature, Tresor Oliver Ho, Film, Surface Surgeon, Klonk, Dynamic Tension --- About the show: The Vault airs every Wednesday night from 9:30 pm until 11:00 am (21:30 to 23:00 US Eastern Time = GMT -5:00) on 88.1 FM WESU. The station's 1500 watt signal can be heard from as far north as Springfield, MA to as far south as Long Island, NY. WESU also broadcasts via the internet. Visit the station's website www.wesufm.org for the details. In addition to hosting this radio program, I am a freelance DJ and occasionally write record reviews. I welcome any questions, suggestions, or comments. Please feel free to respond to this message (www.antonbanks.com/email.html) or visit my website for more information. *** I appreciate all promotional music sent to me and will never sell any of it online or anywhere else. All promotional material sent to me is aired on my show as well as used in my DJ sets when I play out.
Re: (313) Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) retroactive 002
I discussed this issue with the head of the MCPS in Scotland a year or so ago- the basic deal is that they treat audio clips on websites to be essentially a fund raising exercise, ie you are trying to sell something (duh!) in the same way a radio station is trying to sell something (advertising in their case) when they play music over the airways- therfore a license fee is due to artists who's music you play in the same way that they get paid if their music gets played on the radio or used in a TV transmission. As far as I remember there is a "minimal" fee due as long as the clips are under 30 seconds and a more substantial (i.e. truly eye watering) fee if they are of a longer duration- Juno may either be paying the larger fee as they are a pretty substantial organisation or they may just be chancing their luck. Of course, as always with these things, artists from small independent labels rarely see any of the cash collected by the relevant authorities "on their behalf" and the vast majority goes to Dire Straits, Robbie Williams and the odd bit left over for Tiesto and Joey Negro. cheers Jason On 29 Mar 2006, at 15:36, Tristan Watkins wrote: - Original Message - From: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Paul Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "313@Hyperreal.Org" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:23 PM Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) retroactive 002 it's a RIAA/BPI thing, any longer and technically they're in breach of licensing or something. rediculous i know. You sure? I'd like to see that. I would think any sample in excess of say, 3 seconds would be unauthorised unless there are explicit differneces set out for record shops. Meanwhile, anyone know how most other online shops get away with longer samples? Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
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it's more the appalling quality of the clips at piccadilly that struck me then their short length (clone only has 30 second samples as well...) they are extrmely lowfi...like made for streaming with no prebuffering on a bad 56kbps modem...125kb for a 30 second file is just silly...you could have the file be twice the quality/size and only have to prebuffer for a few seconds or something and it would still work fine even on a crappy modem...and the clips are recorded pretty poorly (low levels), so they're buried in noise on top of being lowfi...and who tries to stream stuff on 56k anyways? haha anywaysss
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Juno stick to the 30 second thing too. Some sites don't though as you say. hmm, they do? usually they have something like 1m30s to 3m.. never seen less than 1m sample on their site!? ..unless they've switched last week i'm just showing that i haven't shopped there for over 18 months i guess. robin...
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Yep it was me and that's how it is. You can verify this if you can find a clip of something from way back by searching Piccadilly's site as their clips used to be (and still are for those older tracks) between 1min and 2 mins long (depended on how much they liked something). Then the BPI approached them and told them it was 30 secs max - and (although my memory is not up to being sure of this bit) they have to pay to use those. As far as I knew others get away with it as they aren't as big. But that doesn't square with Juno now increasing from 30 to 60 as someone says they've done. Dunno that's the story as far as I knew / remembered / made it up. > -Original Message- > From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 29 March 2006 15:47 > >> > >> it's a RIAA/BPI thing, > > > > You sure? I'd like to see that. I would think any sample in > excess of > > say, 3 seconds would be unauthorised unless there are explicit > > differneces set out for record shops. > > > > Meanwhile, anyone know how most other online shops get away with > > longer samples? > > Juno stick to the 30 second thing too. Some sites don't > though as you say. > > I think it was Francis that was telling us about this when we > last discussed it.
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robin wrote on Wed, 29 Mar 2006 about following: Juno stick to the 30 second thing too. Some sites don't though as you say. hmm, they do? usually they have something like 1m30s to 3m.. never seen less than 1m sample on their site!? ..unless they've switched last week sakke
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- Original Message - From: "Matt Kane's Brain" Oh man, at least I tend to shop when it's either hard pounding schranz or nasty evil breakcore. Bank of America were playing Bunny Wailer in the lobby, one day last week: insulting incongruity. seek How about the sound of slightly muffled "uplifting" trance at +24 volume? Just enough to bleed through the headphone cup so that it interferes with what you're trying to buy. Then it would be just like shopping here. MEK "Matt Kane's Brain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/29/06 10:10 AM cc Tristan Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "313@Hyperreal.Org" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject Re: (313) retroactive 002 They can mix in street noise, conversations, and other tracks in the background to mimic shopping at a brick and mortar store. On Mar 29, 2006, at 10:51, robin wrote: They may have long ago, but not since they launched the new site. Most samples are 60 seconds-ish now, although some older ones are shorter, and occasionally some are longer. Thing is, I can't think of many other sites that actually stick to a 30 second limit, otherwise I would just assume Juno don't care. I might have it wrong then. I hope so, I don't like short clips either. Vinyl Underground have a betterwas of doing it as they have long clips often with multiple parts of the track so you get a better feel. In an ideal world though we'd get medium-fi (to prevent people just lifting the track) versions of the whole track to flick through. robin... -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim -> mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim -> mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Oh man, at least I tend to shop when it's either hard pounding schranz or nasty evil breakcore. On Mar 29, 2006, at 11:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about the sound of slightly muffled "uplifting" trance at +24 volume? Just enough to bleed through the headphone cup so that it interferes with what you're trying to buy. Then it would be just like shopping here. MEK "Matt Kane's Brain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/29/06 10:10 AM cc Tristan Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "313@Hyperreal.Org" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject Re: (313) retroactive 002 They can mix in street noise, conversations, and other tracks in the background to mimic shopping at a brick and mortar store. On Mar 29, 2006, at 10:51, robin wrote: They may have long ago, but not since they launched the new site. Most samples are 60 seconds-ish now, although some older ones are shorter, and occasionally some are longer. Thing is, I can't think of many other sites that actually stick to a 30 second limit, otherwise I would just assume Juno don't care. I might have it wrong then. I hope so, I don't like short clips either. Vinyl Underground have a betterwas of doing it as they have long clips often with multiple parts of the track so you get a better feel. In an ideal world though we'd get medium-fi (to prevent people just lifting the track) versions of the whole track to flick through. robin... -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim -> mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim -> mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Thing is, I can't think of many other sites that actually stick to a 30 > > second limit, otherwise I would just assume Juno don't care. > > > > > I might have it wrong then. I hope so, I don't like short clips either. > last.fm have in their FAQ that their licenses only allow them to play 30 seconds of any "on-demand" track
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How about the sound of slightly muffled "uplifting" trance at +24 volume? Just enough to bleed through the headphone cup so that it interferes with what you're trying to buy. Then it would be just like shopping here. MEK "Matt Kane's Brain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/29/06 10:10 AM cc Tristan Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "313@Hyperreal.Org" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject Re: (313) retroactive 002 They can mix in street noise, conversations, and other tracks in the background to mimic shopping at a brick and mortar store. On Mar 29, 2006, at 10:51, robin wrote: > >> They may have long ago, but not since they launched the new site. >> Most samples are 60 seconds-ish now, although some older ones are >> shorter, and occasionally some are longer. >> Thing is, I can't think of many other sites that actually stick to >> a 30 second limit, otherwise I would just assume Juno don't care. > > > I might have it wrong then. I hope so, I don't like short clips > either. > > Vinyl Underground have a betterwas of doing it as they have long > clips often with multiple parts of the track so you get a better feel. > > In an ideal world though we'd get medium-fi (to prevent people just > lifting the track) versions of the whole track to flick through. > > robin... -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim -> mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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They can mix in street noise, conversations, and other tracks in the background to mimic shopping at a brick and mortar store. On Mar 29, 2006, at 10:51, robin wrote: They may have long ago, but not since they launched the new site. Most samples are 60 seconds-ish now, although some older ones are shorter, and occasionally some are longer. Thing is, I can't think of many other sites that actually stick to a 30 second limit, otherwise I would just assume Juno don't care. I might have it wrong then. I hope so, I don't like short clips either. Vinyl Underground have a betterwas of doing it as they have long clips often with multiple parts of the track so you get a better feel. In an ideal world though we'd get medium-fi (to prevent people just lifting the track) versions of the whole track to flick through. robin... -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim -> mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I often check excerpts on http://www.cisco-records.co.jp http://www.cisco-records.co.jp/cgi/style.php?qCate=3&qStyle=3-68 They are 1:30 to 2 minutes long. ~ KiDDy. - Original Message - From: "Tristan Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "313@Hyperreal.Org" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:50 PM Subject: (313) Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) retroactive 002 > > They may have long ago, but not since they launched the new site. Most > samples are 60 seconds-ish now, although some older ones are shorter, and > occasionally some are longer. > > Thing is, I can't think of many other sites that actually stick to a 30 > second limit, otherwise I would just assume Juno don't care. > > Tristan > === > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
(313) Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) retroactive 002
- Original Message - From: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tristan Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "313@Hyperreal.Org" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) retroactive 002 They may have long ago, but not since they launched the new site. Most samples are 60 seconds-ish now, although some older ones are shorter, and occasionally some are longer. Thing is, I can't think of many other sites that actually stick to a 30 second limit, otherwise I would just assume Juno don't care. I might have it wrong then. I hope so, I don't like short clips either. Vinyl Underground have a betterwas of doing it as they have long clips often with multiple parts of the track so you get a better feel. In an ideal world though we'd get medium-fi (to prevent people just lifting the track) versions of the whole track to flick through. Yeah, if I were to recommend something to Piccadilly it would be to offer both hi and low bandwidth clips, and maybe make them a minute long, but I haven't because I don't want to make them any more successful than they already are because it's already hard enough to get the records I want from them! ;) Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
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They may have long ago, but not since they launched the new site. Most samples are 60 seconds-ish now, although some older ones are shorter, and occasionally some are longer. Thing is, I can't think of many other sites that actually stick to a 30 second limit, otherwise I would just assume Juno don't care. I might have it wrong then. I hope so, I don't like short clips either. Vinyl Underground have a betterwas of doing it as they have long clips often with multiple parts of the track so you get a better feel. In an ideal world though we'd get medium-fi (to prevent people just lifting the track) versions of the whole track to flick through. robin...
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Original Message - From: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tristan Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "313@Hyperreal.Org" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:46 PM Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) retroactive 002 it's a RIAA/BPI thing, You sure? I'd like to see that. I would think any sample in excess of say, 3 seconds would be unauthorised unless there are explicit differneces set out for record shops. Meanwhile, anyone know how most other online shops get away with longer samples? Juno stick to the 30 second thing too. Some sites don't though as you say. They may have long ago, but not since they launched the new site. Most samples are 60 seconds-ish now, although some older ones are shorter, and occasionally some are longer. Thing is, I can't think of many other sites that actually stick to a 30 second limit, otherwise I would just assume Juno don't care. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
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it's a RIAA/BPI thing, You sure? I'd like to see that. I would think any sample in excess of say, 3 seconds would be unauthorised unless there are explicit differneces set out for record shops. Meanwhile, anyone know how most other online shops get away with longer samples? Juno stick to the 30 second thing too. Some sites don't though as you say. I think it was Francis that was telling us about this when we last discussed it. robin...
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- Original Message - From: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Paul Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "313@Hyperreal.Org" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:23 PM Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) retroactive 002 it's a RIAA/BPI thing, any longer and technically they're in breach of licensing or something. rediculous i know. You sure? I'd like to see that. I would think any sample in excess of say, 3 seconds would be unauthorised unless there are explicit differneces set out for record shops. Meanwhile, anyone know how most other online shops get away with longer samples? Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
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it's a RIAA/BPI thing, any longer and technically they're in breach of licensing or something. rediculous i know. robin... Paul Hudson wrote: The thing which annoys me is that the clips are so short! How can you tell what something is like from 30 seconds? I rely on the clips quite a bit now as I rarely get to go into town any more and find hearing new music difficult. Anyway, great service from their mail order apart from that. ps somebody needs to tell piccadilly that their soundclips are ridiculously low-fi and crappi. are they trying to accomodate 10 year old modems or something?
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The thing which annoys me is that the clips are so short! How can you tell what something is like from 30 seconds? I rely on the clips quite a bit now as I rarely get to go into town any more and find hearing new music difficult. Anyway, great service from their mail order apart from that. > > > ps somebody needs to tell piccadilly that their soundclips > > are ridiculously low-fi and crappi. are they trying to > > accomodate 10 year old modems or something? >
(313) OT - Madrid: 21-24 of April
Sorry for yet another OT contribution. I'm in Madrid visitng a friend for the 21-25, and I'm wondering if there's anything good on. Had a glance at www.clubbingspain.com and saw Reinhard Voigt and Jan Jelinek are around. Wondering if there's anything else I should know about, particularly worthwhile stuff that I would be less likely to see in London. Replies off-list please. Cheers! Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
(313) Dj 3000 album / Nomorewords.net update
all sound files & info of Dj 3000's Migration album are up at: http://nomorewords.net As well, all info & sounds for three upcoming Delsin eps: D5 - Neutrino EP Nubian Mindz - Typewriter EP Vince Watson - Vanishing Point EP see -> http://nomorewords.net bleeep --- http://www.delsin.org http://www.myspace.com/planetdelsin
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> ps somebody needs to tell piccadilly that their soundclips > are ridiculously low-fi and crappi. are they trying to > accomodate 10 year old modems or something? I discussed this with them a couple of years back - not because I find it an issue so much [as being local I can just use the clips as a guide to what to listen to in the shop :-) ] but just chatting really and although I guess that means it was 8 year old rather than 10 and maybe they need to think about moving up a notch or so now (as the last 2 years has seen a major increase in broadband in the UK) the answer is basically yes - they found that that quality was the best compromise in terms of reaching a balance between people complaining about the lack of quality and people complaining that it was too much and their systems couldn't cope!
