(313) CD/Music Library Databases?

2006-07-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Does anyone have one or use one that:

1) is stable
2) has a easy to use interface
3) allows for customization of data fields
4) is Mac compatible
5) works with CDDB
6) has a catalog # field

???

I've been using My Music 3.0 by Computer Dynamics and have had only a few
problems with it.  Today it just randomly deleted over 4000 entries
(leaving .
It will take a couple of months to re-enter everything if it won't restore
and figured if there was a better software out there then I'll just start
all over again.
Oh, and Computer Dynamics used to have really great online support but I
haven't had to use it for a long time.  I tried to locate their website and
it looks like the domain is up for grabs now.

Good thing there's a beer cooler here at work.

MEK




Re: (313) CD/Music Library Databases?

2006-07-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Also - it has to be something more than just iTunes.  I don't need to play
the CD from the database.
I need to assign a catalog # to the CD so I can readily find it amongst a
very random mix of 4000+ CDs.

MEK

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/27/2006 06:12:56 PM:





 Does anyone have one or use one that:

 1) is stable
 2) has a easy to use interface
 3) allows for customization of data fields
 4) is Mac compatible
 5) works with CDDB
 6) has a catalog # field

 ???

 I've been using My Music 3.0 by Computer Dynamics and have had only a few
 problems with it.  Today it just randomly deleted over 4000 entries
 (leaving .
 It will take a couple of months to re-enter everything if it won't
restore
 and figured if there was a better software out there then I'll just start
 all over again.
 Oh, and Computer Dynamics used to have really great online support but I
 haven't had to use it for a long time.  I tried to locate their website
and
 it looks like the domain is up for grabs now.

 Good thing there's a beer cooler here at work.

 MEK





Re: (313) CD/Music Library Databases?

2006-07-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Sorry - a couple of other things
I need to be able to search and cross-reference by various criteria:

Genre (including customs)
CD name
Artist name (including those within compilations)
catalog #
media type (CD, enhanced cd, DVD, LP, etc.)
song names

also with genres I'd like to have more than one choice per entry - two is
fine - three or more would be fantastic

I think that's it

MEK






Re: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread D1


Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that  
or why

I wouldn't write him off.
It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded
statement.  I hope there comes some explanation soonish.
Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you?



Well.. I was just asking him what kind of stuff he was DJing these  
days..   he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals...  
but that he used to like otis redding.
He pretty much dismissed 90's techno and seemed pretty much unaware  
of anything that had come out of detroit since 1990.
He said it was just his preference now, that he didn't like or play  
black music..  not in any way racist [didn't come across like that  
anyway].. just seemed like a ridiculous categorization to me!
It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black  
origin awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish  
traditional Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern  
European Music] influenced american country music, which among others  
influenced Stevie Wonder. etc etc etc

Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way !
Eamonn






Re: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals...

no blue notes - so he's following a purist European tradition
the second part..well, that's fukt up

odd because his music has blue notes throughout it so he must be only
playing new productions
it must sound like dance music on prozac

MEK




D1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/27/2006 06:45:01 PM:

 
  Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that
  or why
  I wouldn't write him off.
  It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded
  statement.  I hope there comes some explanation soonish.
  Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you?
 

 Well.. I was just asking him what kind of stuff he was DJing these
 days..   he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals...
 but that he used to like otis redding.
 He pretty much dismissed 90's techno and seemed pretty much unaware
 of anything that had come out of detroit since 1990.
 He said it was just his preference now, that he didn't like or play
 black music..  not in any way racist [didn't come across like that
 anyway].. just seemed like a ridiculous categorization to me!
 It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black
 origin awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish
 traditional Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern
 European Music] influenced american country music, which among others
 influenced Stevie Wonder. etc etc etc
 Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way !
 Eamonn







Re: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread D1


no blue notes - so he's following a purist European tradition
the second part..well, that's fukt up

odd because his music has blue notes throughout it so he must be only
playing new productions
it must sound like dance music on prozac


I think he still plays the odd old style set..  but mostly he's  
playing pretty banging techno from what I can make out..  maybe  
someone out there has heard him DJ recently ?
I'm actually pretty ignorant to his earlier stuff, I've no idea about  
any of the Italo Disco stuff.. if that's the right term ?

Eamonn







Re: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




I'm listening to this mix by him
http://media.emergency-music.org/audio/AR161205.mp3
it's from December 05 and there's plenty of blue notes in the music he's
playing and the vocals sound pretty soulful (in that robotic disco fashion)
so I think he might be talking out of his...

maybe he's dropped it all in the last 6 months and is playing monotone
loops
I doubt it though - people hire him for gigs because of his Italo sound
if he didn't play blue notes then he wouldn't be able to perform Problemz
- his bread and butter

he's spouting nonsense

MEK




(313) ISF live in Tokyo

2006-07-28 Thread John Sokolowski
Hola!

http://www.samurai.fm/conexion/

Enjoy!



(313) July 28-Detroit city center- Free outdoor concert

2006-07-28 Thread Svagr, Jodie
Come dance outdoors amongst the highrises of Detroit.  Join the 2,000+ other 
people expected to come.
 
Where:  Campus Martius Park, Woodward/Michigan Ave.  directions at 
www.campusmartiuspark.org 
 
When:  Friday July 28th, 5-7pm 
 
What:   2 hour techno tag-team
 
Who:   Liz Copeland and Clark Warren
 
Why:   Cos we love Detroit, and the Power Renovation Movement of the city is 
starting from the center.
 
How much:  Its FREE!!
 
And for those of you who like RockRoll, at 7:30 Dave Mason will be playing, 
and expect a few historic Detroit rockrollers to be making surprise 
appearances as well.  


Re: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread J.T.
i agree with whoever said he's saying nonsenseor expressing himself poorly 
anyways..does that mean italo is ok because it's white people trying to sing 
(usually poorly) like black people? maybe he's going for a really cheesey white 
euro sound...i hope he just has a sense of humor and is knowingly playing 
crap...or trying on some silly conceptual dj concept in spite of his own 
taste...still it's just really stupid and twisted uber-cool euro style or 
somethingwhy are so many dj's so retarded and singleminded, what's the 
point in narrowing your focus, nevermind the retarded shxt he's focussed on, 
ug

anyways all that aside, his last record (pulled from 20+ year old tapes) as 
Avida, is really damn good...problemes era stuff, some stuff equally as good as 
problemes...and i am kinda burnt out on italo/disco revival/disco re-issues etc 
...but it's good, if you like problemes d'amour you would probably like it...




Re: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread Martin Dust


It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black 
origin awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish 
traditional Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern 
European Music] influenced american country music, which among others 
influenced Stevie Wonder. etc etc etc

Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way !
Eamonn



You could argue that all music is MOBO but the awards where about 
addressing the balance in the UK, however they did give us Lemar s 
and if he's the future of UK Soul then I'm the Pope...


m



Re: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread fab.
in italy black music is usually used to indicated rap and RnB and to a 
lesser extent, soul and blues.


f.

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Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that  or 
why

I wouldn't write him off.
It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded
statement.  I hope there comes some explanation soonish.
Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you?



Well.. I was just asking him what kind of stuff he was DJing these  days.. 
he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals...  but that he 
used to like otis redding.
He pretty much dismissed 90's techno and seemed pretty much unaware  of 
anything that had come out of detroit since 1990.
He said it was just his preference now, that he didn't like or play  black 
music..  not in any way racist [didn't come across like that  anyway].. 
just seemed like a ridiculous categorization to me!
It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black  origin 
awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish  traditional 
Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern  European Music] 
influenced american country music, which among others  influenced Stevie 
Wonder. etc etc etc

Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way !
Eamonn







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RE: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread Robert Taylor
Did I miss an Analord mix?
Linky linky?
Ta 

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Subject: RE: (313) robotnik dj style?

Then is meant to imply an if/then conditional statement. If he didn't
mean it like it sounded, then whatever (to present it's opposite). But
in 2006 there aren't too many ways you can mean that. 


I know it's the wrong thread and all, but I rarely get my hands set to
type so...that analord mix has been on repeat for a day and a half now.
And I'm loving some of the ones I passed on big time! Thanks senor
kowalski!

K
mwnb

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Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that or
why
I wouldn't write him off.
It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded
statement.  I hope there comes some explanation soonish.
Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you?

MEK

Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/27/2006 03:52:40 PM:

 On Jul 27, 2006, at 16:38, Stoddard, Kamal wrote:
  Fxck him then.

 I'm not sure if that's the right way to react. Playing Devil's
 Advocate, he may believe that being white disqualifies him from
 playing black music. I don't know the guy so maybe I'm giving him too
 much credit.

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RE: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread Robert Taylor
There was a programme on Channel 4 a while back which claimed that
Gospel music originated in the Hebrides (remote Scottish islands) - it
did not originate in Africa, but from stern Gaelic speaking Scots who
passed it on to their slaves

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 Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that or

 why I wouldn't write him off.
 It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded 
 statement.  I hope there comes some explanation soonish.
 Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you?


Well.. I was just asking him what kind of stuff he was DJing these  
days..   he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals...  
but that he used to like otis redding.
He pretty much dismissed 90's techno and seemed pretty much unaware of
anything that had come out of detroit since 1990.
He said it was just his preference now, that he didn't like or play
black music..  not in any way racist [didn't come across like that
anyway].. just seemed like a ridiculous categorization to me!
It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black origin
awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish
traditional Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern European
Music] influenced american country music, which among others influenced
Stevie Wonder. etc etc etc Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way !
Eamonn






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RE: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread Robert Taylor
What is a blue note? 

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he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals...

no blue notes - so he's following a purist European tradition the second
part..well, that's fukt up

odd because his music has blue notes throughout it so he must be only
playing new productions it must sound like dance music on prozac

MEK




D1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/27/2006 06:45:01 PM:

 
  Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that 
  or why I wouldn't write him off.
  It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded 
  statement.  I hope there comes some explanation soonish.
  Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you?
 

 Well.. I was just asking him what kind of stuff he was DJing these
 days..   he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals...
 but that he used to like otis redding.
 He pretty much dismissed 90's techno and seemed pretty much unaware
 of anything that had come out of detroit since 1990.
 He said it was just his preference now, that he didn't like or play
 black music..  not in any way racist [didn't come across like that
 anyway].. just seemed like a ridiculous categorization to me!
 It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black
 origin awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish
 traditional Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern
 European Music] influenced american country music, which among others
 influenced Stevie Wonder. etc etc etc
 Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way !
 Eamonn







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Re: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread /0

more importantly, make sure you know of the brown note

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What is a blue note?

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he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals...


no blue notes - so he's following a purist European tradition the second
part..well, that's fukt up

odd because his music has blue notes throughout it so he must be only
playing new productions it must sound like dance music on prozac

MEK




D1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/27/2006 06:45:01 PM:



 Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that
 or why I wouldn't write him off.
 It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded
 statement.  I hope there comes some explanation soonish.
 Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you?


Well.. I was just asking him what kind of stuff he was DJing these
days..   he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals...
but that he used to like otis redding.
He pretty much dismissed 90's techno and seemed pretty much unaware
of anything that had come out of detroit since 1990.
He said it was just his preference now, that he didn't like or play
black music..  not in any way racist [didn't come across like that
anyway].. just seemed like a ridiculous categorization to me!
It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black
origin awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish
traditional Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern
European Music] influenced american country music, which among others
influenced Stevie Wonder. etc etc etc
Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way !
Eamonn








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RE: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread Robert Taylor
Haha - I know of that! 

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more importantly, make sure you know of the brown note

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What is a blue note?

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he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals...

no blue notes - so he's following a purist European tradition the second
part..well, that's fukt up

odd because his music has blue notes throughout it so he must be only
playing new productions it must sound like dance music on prozac

MEK




D1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/27/2006 06:45:01 PM:

 
  Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that
  or why I wouldn't write him off.
  It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded
  statement.  I hope there comes some explanation soonish.
  Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you?
 

 Well.. I was just asking him what kind of stuff he was DJing these
 days..   he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals...
 but that he used to like otis redding.
 He pretty much dismissed 90's techno and seemed pretty much unaware
 of anything that had come out of detroit since 1990.
 He said it was just his preference now, that he didn't like or play
 black music..  not in any way racist [didn't come across like that
 anyway].. just seemed like a ridiculous categorization to me!
 It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black
 origin awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish
 traditional Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern
 European Music] influenced american country music, which among others
 influenced Stevie Wonder. etc etc etc
 Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way !
 Eamonn








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Re: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread Martin Dust

There was a programme on Channel 4 a while back which claimed that
Gospel music originated in the Hebrides (remote Scottish islands) - it
did not originate in Africa, but from stern Gaelic speaking Scots who
passed it on to their slaves



Really, now that I'd like to hear...

m



(313) Analord Mix link (was Re: (313) robotnik dj style?)

2006-07-28 Thread robin


Here you go Rob.

http://www.vocode.com/recommends_011.shtml

Not listened myself yet.

robin...


Robert Taylor wrote:

Did I miss an Analord mix?
Linky linky?
Ta 


Re: (313) Berlin this weekend

2006-07-28 Thread Emiliano Zani

Tomorrow: jennifer cardini, ivan smagghe, roman
fluegel and superpitcher @Watergate...
Sascha Funkee too...
http://www.water-gate.de/program/index.html

and Lunar City Express (from Moon Harbour)
here...
http://upcoming.org/event/93980

Echo  Bunnyman
http://www.berlinfestival.de

Leo Cubanero  others
http://www.clubmaria.de/index2.html

Luciano at Panorama bar
http://www.berghain.de/

Jazzanova
http://www.week-end-berlin.de/

and, if you like sailing ;)
http://www.room106.de/

Reviews welcome, since I'll go there in August :)

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Hi everybody- off to Berlin again this weekend- anything good on?

Jason




Re: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread Matt Kane's Brain

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_note



On Jul 28, 2006, at 5:51, Robert Taylor wrote:


What is a blue note?

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Matt

Kane's Brain
Subject: Re: (313) robotnik dj style?






he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals...


no blue notes - so he's following a purist European tradition the  
second

part..well, that's fukt up

odd because his music has blue notes throughout it so he must be only
playing new productions it must sound like dance music on prozac

MEK




D1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/27/2006 06:45:01 PM:



Without a direct quote or some explanation of what he means by that
or why I wouldn't write him off.
It could mean just as Matt says below - but damn, that's a loaded
statement.  I hope there comes some explanation soonish.
Eamonn - did he ever explain that statement to you?



Well.. I was just asking him what kind of stuff he was DJing these
days..   he said he hated blues notes in music.. and black vocals...
but that he used to like otis redding.
He pretty much dismissed 90's techno and seemed pretty much unaware
of anything that had come out of detroit since 1990.
He said it was just his preference now, that he didn't like or play
black music..  not in any way racist [didn't come across like that
anyway].. just seemed like a ridiculous categorization to me!
It's about as ludicrous as that stupid MOBO thing [music of black
origin awards].. I mean, where the hell do you draw the line ? Irish
traditional Music [which has it's roots in Egyptian and Eastern
European Music] influenced american country music, which among others
influenced Stevie Wonder. etc etc etc
Robotnik's a VERY nice guy by the way !
Eamonn








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(313) Hawtin question

2006-07-28 Thread Blaauw, Martijn de
Does anybody on the list know where i can find a list of the upcoming
dj-gigs of Richie Hawtin??? I have checked m-nus-com, plastikman.com and
richiehawtin.com but no luck sofar...

Thanx for ur help.

Martijn



RE: (313) Hawtin question

2006-07-28 Thread Jason Trolian
http://m-nus.com/calendar/my_calendar.cgi 


Jason Trolian

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From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 7:38 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Hawtin question

Does anybody on the list know where i can find a list of the upcoming
dj-gigs of Richie Hawtin??? I have checked m-nus-com, plastikman.com and
richiehawtin.com but no luck sofar...

Thanx for ur help.

Martijn






RE: (313) Hawtin question

2006-07-28 Thread Blaauw, Martijn de
Thanx...guess i didn't look to good at the m-nus site...

Martijn

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Jason Trolian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Verzonden: vrijdag 28 juli 2006 14:12
Aan: Blaauw, Martijn de ; 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: RE: (313) Hawtin question


http://m-nus.com/calendar/my_calendar.cgi 


Jason Trolian

-Original Message-
From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 7:38 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Hawtin question

Does anybody on the list know where i can find a list of the upcoming
dj-gigs of Richie Hawtin??? I have checked m-nus-com, plastikman.com and
richiehawtin.com but no luck sofar...

Thanx for ur help.

Martijn







(313) John Davis

2006-07-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't really remember him apart from peripherally as part of the Milli
Vanilli scam.
There is a comp of his stuff under various aliases out: Flashcan.
Thoughts / opinions anyone?



RE: (313) Hawtin question

2006-07-28 Thread Jason Trolian
I had to link to it from the Plus8 site.  


Jason Trolian

-Original Message-
From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 8:16 AM
To: Jason Trolian; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Hawtin question

Thanx...guess i didn't look to good at the m-nus site...

Martijn

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Jason Trolian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: vrijdag 28 juli 2006 14:12
Aan: Blaauw, Martijn de ; 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: RE: (313) Hawtin question


http://m-nus.com/calendar/my_calendar.cgi 


Jason Trolian

-Original Message-
From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 7:38 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Hawtin question

Does anybody on the list know where i can find a list of the upcoming
dj-gigs of Richie Hawtin??? I have checked m-nus-com, plastikman.com and
richiehawtin.com but no luck sofar...

Thanx for ur help.

Martijn










(313) Re:CD/Music Library Databases?

2006-07-28 Thread Jacob Arnold
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 18:12:56 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone have one or use one that:
 
 1) is stable
 2) has a easy to use interface
 3) allows for customization of data fields
 4) is Mac compatible
 5) works with CDDB
 6) has a catalog # field

I hate to say it, but your best bet is probably a custom solution using 
FileMaker. I built one for my
own use, and it has all of the above except for CDDB compatibility. There's 
ways to copy CDDB data
from iTunes to FileMaker via AppleScript. I do that for track names for label 
making. Here are some
examples:

http://www.dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/scripts03.php

Regards,
Jacob

-- 
underground music reviews
http://www.gridface.com/
http://www.myspace.com/gridface


Re: (313) John Davis

2006-07-28 Thread Dan Bean
Haven't heard that comp, but like his 70s stuff on SAM. His version of Bourgie 
Bourgie is my favourite.

You wrote:
 I don't really remember him apart from peripherally as part of the Milli
 Vanilli scam.
 There is a comp of his stuff under various aliases out: Flashcan.
 Thoughts / opinions anyone?
 
 



Re: (313) John Davis

2006-07-28 Thread sqrrt
Not the same guy. That 70's JD never really went electronic,  stayed 
linked to Philly Soul  Disco throughout, even though discogs lists 
both JD's productions together. Metrovynil even lists the 80's 
electro JD as Johnny Davis on most releases.


Francis.

At 09:12 AM 7/28/2006, Dan Bean wrote:
Haven't heard that comp, but like his 70s stuff on SAM. His version 
of Bourgie Bourgie is my favourite.


You wrote:
 I don't really remember him apart from peripherally as part of the Milli
 Vanilli scam.
 There is a comp of his stuff under various aliases out: Flashcan.
 Thoughts / opinions anyone?







Re: (313) John Davis

2006-07-28 Thread Dan Bean
Funny, this came up in discussion recently because I thought they were 
different people (and questioned the discogs entry), but I was told that 
they're one and the same...

 Not the same guy. That 70's JD never really went electronic,  stayed 
 linked to Philly Soul  Disco throughout, even though discogs lists 
 both JD's productions together. Metrovynil even lists the 80's 
 electro JD as Johnny Davis on most releases.
 
 Francis.
 
 At 09:12 AM 7/28/2006, Dan Bean wrote:
 Haven't heard that comp, but like his 70s stuff on SAM. His version 
 of Bourgie Bourgie is my favourite.
 
 You wrote:
   I don't really remember him apart from peripherally as part of the Milli
   Vanilli scam.
   There is a comp of his stuff under various aliases out: Flashcan.
   Thoughts / opinions anyone?
  
  
 
 
 



Re: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Well, that doesn't explain the I don't play blue notes thing.

MEK

fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/28/2006 02:59:43 AM:

 in italy black music is usually used to indicated rap and RnB and to a
 lesser extent, soul and blues.

 f.



Re: (313) Analord Mix link (was Re: (313) robotnik dj style?)

2006-07-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




does anyone else think that the 303 acid squiggle in that first track
sounds just a bit like Popeye on some bender?

I amz what I amz
MEK

robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/28/2006 04:16:43 AM:


 Here you go Rob.

 http://www.vocode.com/recommends_011.shtml

 Not listened myself yet.

 robin...


 Robert Taylor wrote:
  Did I miss an Analord mix?
  Linky linky?
  Ta



(313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread ulysses
Everybody,

Try not to get too mixed up about a statement like that. It's not uncommon
for people in some European countries, like Italy and Germany, to refer to
a particular style of music as Black music. Whatever kind of music that
is is a very loose genre, but it usually refers to Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk,
etc. If Robotnick says he doesn't like playing Black music, it probably
means he doesn't like Sister Sledge and We Are Family or 50 Cent. He's
not a racist, or proably saying anything racist. He's just a 55 year old
man from the kind of not racially sensitive country that would define a
musical genre as Black.

I've spent a reasonable amount of tiume with the guy and I can tell you
with some certainty that he is not some kind of kooky White Supramatist.
He's a very sweet, nice guy who is very opinionated about Espresso. He
also doesn't speak very good English.

As for his live set: it does both of what you would want. He plays new
electro/techno stuff as well as performs a few of hits live. Usually, he
plays Dance Boy Dance, Problems..., and one or two others. His show is
very fun and high energy and I'm certain most people on lthis list will
enjoy it.

e

Scatalogics
205 15th Streeet #A7
Brooklyn, NY 11215

www.scatalogics.com
Talent Copes but Genius Steals



Re: (313) Analord Mix link (was Re: (313) robotnik dj style?)

2006-07-28 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Analord Mix link (was Re: (313) robotnik dj style?)



does anyone else think that the 303 acid squiggle in that first track
sounds just a bit like Popeye on some bender?

I amz what I amz



LOL. I spent ages trying convince my girlfriend of that a few months ago. 


Tristan
===
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.phonopsia.co.uk 


Re: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 7/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If Robotnick says he doesn't like playing Black music, it probably
means he doesn't like Sister Sledge and We Are Family


there's also no excuse for that.

tom


Re: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread Emiliano Zani

Try not to get too mixed up about a statement like that. It's not uncommon
for people in some European countries, like Italy and Germany, to refer to
a particular style of music as Black music. Whatever kind of music that
is is a very loose genre, but it usually refers to Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk,
etc. If Robotnick says he doesn't like playing Black music, it probably
means he doesn't like Sister Sledge and We Are Family or 50 Cent. He's
not a racist, or proably saying anything racist. He's just a 55 year old
man from the kind of not racially sensitive country that would define a
musical genre as Black.

...

He also doesn't speak very good English.


Yeah, right: I agree.

As Starbucks calls espresso that horrendous and burnt-tasting
black water; and says it loud and proud from zillion dollars
TV commercials, seen by millions of people...
As Pizza Hut calls pizza that strange thing covered with a
white melted tire they call mozzarella; and says it loud and
proud from zillion dollars TV commercials, seen by millions
of people...

So I think that Alexander Robotnick can use the espression
black music to refer to some general american or hiphop
or rnb or whatever he means-music, once in a lifetime, in
a private conversation, heard by 2-3 person (I suppose) and
maybe without speaking a very good english
;)


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 4:31 PM
Subject: (313) robotnik dj style?



Everybody,

Try not to get too mixed up about a statement like that. It's not uncommon
for people in some European countries, like Italy and Germany, to refer to
a particular style of music as Black music. Whatever kind of music that
is is a very loose genre, but it usually refers to Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk,
etc. If Robotnick says he doesn't like playing Black music, it probably
means he doesn't like Sister Sledge and We Are Family or 50 Cent. He's
not a racist, or proably saying anything racist. He's just a 55 year old
man from the kind of not racially sensitive country that would define a
musical genre as Black.

I've spent a reasonable amount of tiume with the guy and I can tell you
with some certainty that he is not some kind of kooky White Supramatist.
He's a very sweet, nice guy who is very opinionated about Espresso. He
also doesn't speak very good English.

As for his live set: it does both of what you would want. He plays new
electro/techno stuff as well as performs a few of hits live. Usually, he
plays Dance Boy Dance, Problems..., and one or two others. His show is
very fun and high energy and I'm certain most people on lthis list will
enjoy it.

e

Scatalogics
205 15th Streeet #A7
Brooklyn, NY 11215

www.scatalogics.com
Talent Copes but Genius Steals





Re: (313) John Davis

2006-07-28 Thread robin


Just picked up that 2x12 that's come out on Citinite (has Flashcan on 
it). Also picked up the Robert O'Dell 12 on the same label. I'll report 
back when I've had a proper listen (temp in the shop somat like 45 deg C 
- eek!)


robin...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't really remember him apart from peripherally as part of the Milli
Vanilli scam.
There is a comp of his stuff under various aliases out: Flashcan.
Thoughts / opinions anyone?



Re: (313)AFX twin eats spinach - beats up Bluto

2006-07-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/play/port_lofi.cfm/sound_iid.13274

Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/28/2006 09:35:47
AM:

 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:08 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) Analord Mix link (was Re: (313) robotnik dj style?)


  does anyone else think that the 303 acid squiggle in that first track
  sounds just a bit like Popeye on some bender?
 
  I amz what I amz


 LOL. I spent ages trying convince my girlfriend of that a few months ago.


 Tristan
 ===
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.phonopsia.co.uk



Re: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




He also doesn't speak very good English.

I imagined that this was a contributing factor.  Still, the thing about not
liking blue notes in music begs a futher explanation.

Black music in Italy maybe be thought of differently than black music in
the US or UK but musicians are musicians and blue notes are blue notes
regardless of where they are from. Saying you hate blue notes in music just
seems poorly thought our OR expressed when the music you play contains it.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but it leaves me with ??? over my
head.

MEK


   
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 cs.com
To 
 07/28/06 09:31 AM 313@hyperreal.org   
cc 
   
   Subject 
   (313) robotnik dj style?
   
   
   
   
   
   




Everybody,

Try not to get too mixed up about a statement like that. It's not uncommon
for people in some European countries, like Italy and Germany, to refer to
a particular style of music as Black music. Whatever kind of music that
is is a very loose genre, but it usually refers to Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk,
etc. If Robotnick says he doesn't like playing Black music, it probably
means he doesn't like Sister Sledge and We Are Family or 50 Cent. He's
not a racist, or proably saying anything racist. He's just a 55 year old
man from the kind of not racially sensitive country that would define a
musical genre as Black.

I've spent a reasonable amount of tiume with the guy and I can tell you
with some certainty that he is not some kind of kooky White Supramatist.
He's a very sweet, nice guy who is very opinionated about Espresso. He
also doesn't speak very good English.

As for his live set: it does both of what you would want. He plays new
electro/techno stuff as well as performs a few of hits live. Usually, he
plays Dance Boy Dance, Problems..., and one or two others. His show is
very fun and high energy and I'm certain most people on lthis list will
enjoy it.

e

Scatalogics
205 15th Streeet #A7
Brooklyn, NY 11215

www.scatalogics.com
Talent Copes but Genius Steals





Re: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Probably not to be honest.  But if you play and create music that is
heavily rooted in one culture and then you say you don't like the music
from that culture - it's weird.

MEK

Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/28/2006 11:35:14 AM:

 I wonder if I'd be equally criticized if I said I didn't like white
 music [which, when it comes to dance music, I usually don't...]


 +odd
 --
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  He also doesn't speak very good English.
 
  I imagined that this was a contributing factor.  Still, the thing about
not
  liking blue notes in music begs a futher explanation.
 
  Black music in Italy maybe be thought of differently than black music
in
  the US or UK but musicians are musicians and blue notes are blue notes
  regardless of where they are from. Saying you hate blue notes in music
just
  seems poorly thought our OR expressed when the music you play contains
it.
  I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but it leaves me with ??? over
my
  head.
 
  MEK
 
 
 

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   cs.com

 
To
   07/28/06 09:31 AM 313@hyperreal.org

 
cc
 

 
Subject
 (313) robotnik dj style?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 
 
  Everybody,
 
  Try not to get too mixed up about a statement like that. It's not
uncommon
  for people in some European countries, like Italy and Germany, to refer
to
  a particular style of music as Black music. Whatever kind of music
that
  is is a very loose genre, but it usually refers to Hip-Hop, Soul, Funk,
  etc. If Robotnick says he doesn't like playing Black music, it
probably
  means he doesn't like Sister Sledge and We Are Family or 50 Cent.
He's
  not a racist, or proably saying anything racist. He's just a 55 year
old
  man from the kind of not racially sensitive country that would define a
  musical genre as Black.
 
  I've spent a reasonable amount of tiume with the guy and I can tell you
  with some certainty that he is not some kind of kooky White
Supramatist.
  He's a very sweet, nice guy who is very opinionated about Espresso. He
  also doesn't speak very good English.
 
  As for his live set: it does both of what you would want. He plays new
  electro/techno stuff as well as performs a few of hits live. Usually,
he
  plays Dance Boy Dance, Problems..., and one or two others. His show
is
  very fun and high energy and I'm certain most people on lthis list will
  enjoy it.
 
  e
 
  Scatalogics
  205 15th Streeet #A7
  Brooklyn, NY 11215
 
  www.scatalogics.com
  Talent Copes but Genius Steals
 



 --
 Todd Sines
 director
 + SCALE:  http://www.scale.gs/
 +1.646.330.4873 studio
 195 Chrystie St. #403A, NY, NY 10002
 //
 connecting the space between + within.



(313) Blue Notes

2006-07-28 Thread kent williams

Blue notes (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_note as referred
before) are problematic for me, not because of any racial issues, but
because they can be abused.

A perfect example is the the guy who sings for the Black Crowes, who
hammers incessantly on the flat 3rd, 5th and 7th notes.  Some of his
'melodies' end up being just those notes.  I can take about 30 seonds
of the Black Crowes before I start feeling like kicking a dog. And I
like dogs.

Beyond that, the vast majority of music made in any genre isn't very
original, and breaks down into a collection of genre gestures and
cliches. These can be strung together on a standard template to
produce music in the genre, but with nothing really new to say.

The 'blues' gestures, the 'i-used-to-sing-solos-in-church'
ornamentation, can become pretty empty, rote exercises in the wrong
hands.  As with any music, as a listener, you have to work pretty hard
to find the original and authentic work out of the sea of workmanlike
imitations and rank crap.   Contrast and compare the early work of
Aretha Franklin -- especially the real gospel she recorded when she
was a teenager -- with annoyance-factories like Mariah Carey.  Aretha
sounds fearless and completely free in her singing. Mariah by
comparison is a talented kid who'll never touch that depth of feeling.

I can understand the musical choice to shy away from music that's
heavily dependent on the RB and Blues idiom, because it doesn't speak
to your condition. If you don't connect emotionally as a listener with
a genre, it's all going to sound the same. More power to someone who
goes a different direction and find the sound that feels authentic to
them.

On the other hand, statements like I don't play Black Music are
unfortunate, whether they indicate a bit too bluntly an aesthetic
choice, or reflect a real prejudice.  The latter is obviously a bad
thing, the former a lack of sensitivity.   Not being able to speak
English well isn't really an excuse, because it's not like the
statement is idiomatic or abstract.


On 7/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well, that doesn't explain the I don't play blue notes thing.



Re: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread ulysses
I think my point was a bit overlooked. I think the problem everyone has is
that in Europe people have a genre they call Black music. Try replacing
Black music with Polka and see if what you think Robotnick was trying
to say seems as offensive.

I'm not a particularly big fan of RB, so if I said RB has not
influenced my music in anyway it would not be offensive, it would be a
matter of personal taste. But what if the name for RB where I was from is
Black instead of RB?

Now, I think refering to all music made by African-Americans as Black
music is insensitive, but you would need to change the racial outlook of
millions of Middle-aged Europeans, first. I also was snot privy to the
original conversation that started this thread, so maybe I'm
over-simplifying it. It's just my 2¢.

e



 Probably not to be honest.  But if you play and create music that is
 heavily rooted in one culture and then you say you don't like the music
 from that culture - it's weird.

 MEK

 Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/28/2006 11:35:14 AM:

 I wonder if I'd be equally criticized if I said I didn't like white
 music [which, when it comes to dance music, I usually don't...]


 +odd
 --
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  He also doesn't speak very good English.
 
  I imagined that this was a contributing factor.  Still, the thing
 about
 not
  liking blue notes in music begs a futher explanation.
 
  Black music in Italy maybe be thought of differently than black music
 in
  the US or UK but musicians are musicians and blue notes are blue notes
  regardless of where they are from. Saying you hate blue notes in music
 just
  seems poorly thought our OR expressed when the music you play contains
 it.
  I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but it leaves me with ???
 over
 my
  head.
 
  MEK
 
 
 

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   cs.com

 
 To
   07/28/06 09:31 AM 313@hyperreal.org

 
 cc
 

 
 Subject
 (313) robotnik dj style?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 
 
  Everybody,
 
  Try not to get too mixed up about a statement like that. It's not
 uncommon
  for people in some European countries, like Italy and Germany, to
 refer
 to
  a particular style of music as Black music. Whatever kind of music
 that
  is is a very loose genre, but it usually refers to Hip-Hop, Soul,
 Funk,
  etc. If Robotnick says he doesn't like playing Black music, it
 probably
  means he doesn't like Sister Sledge and We Are Family or 50 Cent.
 He's
  not a racist, or proably saying anything racist. He's just a 55 year
 old
  man from the kind of not racially sensitive country that would define
 a
  musical genre as Black.
 
  I've spent a reasonable amount of tiume with the guy and I can tell
 you
  with some certainty that he is not some kind of kooky White
 Supramatist.
  He's a very sweet, nice guy who is very opinionated about Espresso. He
  also doesn't speak very good English.
 
  As for his live set: it does both of what you would want. He plays new
  electro/techno stuff as well as performs a few of hits live. Usually,
 he
  plays Dance Boy Dance, Problems..., and one or two others. His
 show
 is
  very fun and high energy and I'm certain most people on lthis list
 will
  enjoy it.
 
  e
 
  Scatalogics
  205 15th Streeet #A7
  Brooklyn, NY 11215
 
  www.scatalogics.com
  Talent Copes but Genius Steals
 



 --
 Todd Sines
 director
 + SCALE:  http://www.scale.gs/
 +1.646.330.4873 studio
 195 Chrystie St. #403A, NY, NY 10002
 //
 connecting the space between + within.






Re: (313) robotnik dj style?

2006-07-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Saying you hate blue notes in music but play (and made) the type of music
he does is contrary though.

MEK


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/28/2006 12:07:44 PM:

 I think my point was a bit overlooked. I think the problem everyone has
is
 that in Europe people have a genre they call Black music. Try replacing
 Black music with Polka and see if what you think Robotnick was trying
 to say seems as offensive.

 I'm not a particularly big fan of RB, so if I said RB has not
 influenced my music in anyway it would not be offensive, it would be a
 matter of personal taste. But what if the name for RB where I was from
is
 Black instead of RB?

 Now, I think refering to all music made by African-Americans as Black
 music is insensitive, but you would need to change the racial outlook of
 millions of Middle-aged Europeans, first. I also was snot privy to the
 original conversation that started this thread, so maybe I'm
 over-simplifying it. It's just my 2¢.

 e


 
  Probably not to be honest.  But if you play and create music that is
  heavily rooted in one culture and then you say you don't like the music
  from that culture - it's weird.
 
  MEK
 
  Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/28/2006 11:35:14 AM:
 
  I wonder if I'd be equally criticized if I said I didn't like white
  music [which, when it comes to dance music, I usually don't...]
 
 
  +odd
  --
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
   He also doesn't speak very good English.
  
   I imagined that this was a contributing factor.  Still, the thing
  about
  not
   liking blue notes in music begs a futher explanation.
  
   Black music in Italy maybe be thought of differently than black
music
  in
   the US or UK but musicians are musicians and blue notes are blue
notes
   regardless of where they are from. Saying you hate blue notes in
music
  just
   seems poorly thought our OR expressed when the music you play
contains
  it.
   I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but it leaves me with ???
  over
  my
   head.
  
   MEK
  
  
  
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
cs.com
 
  
  To
07/28/06 09:31 AM 313@hyperreal.org
 
  
  cc
  
 
  
  Subject
  (313) robotnik dj style?
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
  
  
  
   Everybody,
  
   Try not to get too mixed up about a statement like that. It's not
  uncommon
   for people in some European countries, like Italy and Germany, to
  refer
  to
   a particular style of music as Black music. Whatever kind of music
  that
   is is a very loose genre, but it usually refers to Hip-Hop, Soul,
  Funk,
   etc. If Robotnick says he doesn't like playing Black music, it
  probably
   means he doesn't like Sister Sledge and We Are Family or 50 Cent.
  He's
   not a racist, or proably saying anything racist. He's just a 55 year
  old
   man from the kind of not racially sensitive country that would
define
  a
   musical genre as Black.
  
   I've spent a reasonable amount of tiume with the guy and I can tell
  you
   with some certainty that he is not some kind of kooky White
  Supramatist.
   He's a very sweet, nice guy who is very opinionated about Espresso.
He
   also doesn't speak very good English.
  
   As for his live set: it does both of what you would want. He plays
new
   electro/techno stuff as well as performs a few of hits live.
Usually,
  he
   plays Dance Boy Dance, Problems..., and one or two others. His
  show
  is
   very fun and high energy and I'm certain most people on lthis list
  will
   enjoy it.
  
   e
  
   Scatalogics
   205 15th Streeet #A7
   Brooklyn, NY 11215
  
   www.scatalogics.com
   Talent Copes but Genius Steals
  
 
 
 
  --
  Todd Sines
  director
  + SCALE:  http://www.scale.gs/
  +1.646.330.4873 studio
  195 Chrystie St. #403A, NY, NY 10002
  //
  connecting the space between + within.
 
 





Re: (313) CD/Music Library Databases?

2006-07-28 Thread Luis-Manuel Garcia

Hey MEK et al.,

One possible solution is OpenDB, which works with PHP + MySQL.  You  
can either run it locally on your machine by turning on your web  
server and php support.  OR you can put it up on your web space and  
access it from anywhere.  OpenDB is a generalized lending materials  
database, with a decent support community.  And it's cheap and/or free.


Of course, if you're really enterprising, you can just build the  
whole thing from (My)SQL and make your own front-end.


cheers,
LMGM

On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






Does anyone have one or use one that:

1) is stable
2) has a easy to use interface
3) allows for customization of data fields
4) is Mac compatible
5) works with CDDB
6) has a catalog # field

???

I've been using My Music 3.0 by Computer Dynamics and have had only  
a few

problems with it.  Today it just randomly deleted over 4000 entries
(leaving .
It will take a couple of months to re-enter everything if it won't  
restore
and figured if there was a better software out there then I'll just  
start

all over again.
Oh, and Computer Dynamics used to have really great online support  
but I
haven't had to use it for a long time.  I tried to locate their  
website and

it looks like the domain is up for grabs now.

Good thing there's a beer cooler here at work.

MEK






Re: (313) Blue Notes

2006-07-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Well said Kent.  I would lean toward Robotnik feeling they are abused -
thus he hates blue notes in (modern) music.
The problem with the whole argument is that only one of us were in on the
original conversation.
It might have been a sweeping statement, and poorly expressed.
He could been in a foul mood too.

MEK

kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/28/2006 11:43:47 AM:

 Blue notes (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_note as referred
 before) are problematic for me, not because of any racial issues, but
 because they can be abused.

 A perfect example is the the guy who sings for the Black Crowes, who
 hammers incessantly on the flat 3rd, 5th and 7th notes.  Some of his
 'melodies' end up being just those notes.  I can take about 30 seonds
 of the Black Crowes before I start feeling like kicking a dog. And I
 like dogs.

 Beyond that, the vast majority of music made in any genre isn't very
 original, and breaks down into a collection of genre gestures and
 cliches. These can be strung together on a standard template to
 produce music in the genre, but with nothing really new to say.

 The 'blues' gestures, the 'i-used-to-sing-solos-in-church'
 ornamentation, can become pretty empty, rote exercises in the wrong
 hands.  As with any music, as a listener, you have to work pretty hard
 to find the original and authentic work out of the sea of workmanlike
 imitations and rank crap.   Contrast and compare the early work of
 Aretha Franklin -- especially the real gospel she recorded when she
 was a teenager -- with annoyance-factories like Mariah Carey.  Aretha
 sounds fearless and completely free in her singing. Mariah by
 comparison is a talented kid who'll never touch that depth of feeling.

 I can understand the musical choice to shy away from music that's
 heavily dependent on the RB and Blues idiom, because it doesn't speak
 to your condition. If you don't connect emotionally as a listener with
 a genre, it's all going to sound the same. More power to someone who
 goes a different direction and find the sound that feels authentic to
 them.

 On the other hand, statements like I don't play Black Music are
 unfortunate, whether they indicate a bit too bluntly an aesthetic
 choice, or reflect a real prejudice.  The latter is obviously a bad
 thing, the former a lack of sensitivity.   Not being able to speak
 English well isn't really an excuse, because it's not like the
 statement is idiomatic or abstract.


 On 7/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Well, that doesn't explain the I don't play blue notes thing.
 



Re: (313) Blue Notes

2006-07-28 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
Or he could be trying to start this very shxtstorm, as many other  
artists have done in the past :)


On Jul 28, 2006, at 13:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well said Kent.  I would lean toward Robotnik feeling they are  
abused -

thus he hates blue notes in (modern) music.
The problem with the whole argument is that only one of us were in  
on the

original conversation.
It might have been a sweeping statement, and poorly expressed.
He could been in a foul mood too.

--
matt kane's brain
http://hydrogenproject.com
aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: (313) Blue Notes

2006-07-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




The possibilities are endless.

MEK

Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/28/2006 12:26:38 PM:

 Or he could be trying to start this very shxtstorm, as many other
 artists have done in the past :)

 On Jul 28, 2006, at 13:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well said Kent.  I would lean toward Robotnik feeling they are
  abused -
  thus he hates blue notes in (modern) music.
  The problem with the whole argument is that only one of us were in
  on the
  original conversation.
  It might have been a sweeping statement, and poorly expressed.
  He could been in a foul mood too.
 --
 matt kane's brain
 http://hydrogenproject.com
 aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]





(313) naw live show this sunday july 30th cherry beach (fwd)

2006-07-28 Thread Neil Wiernik


just passing along this info to you all hope to see you all there (assuming 
your in the tononto area)


this sunday July 30th
promise cherry beach sunday afternoon soundsystem

Join us this sunday as we welcome guest Jesse from Ottawa and Simon from 
Montreal. Jesse will be playing some gorgeous afternoon house and Simon will be 
blending a mix of mellow electro, house and techno. Adam Marshall is off for 
the rest of the summer for a European tour and well celebrate his trip as he 
gives us not a techno set but house! Neil (Naw) will be doing a trippy live 
laptop techno set mid afternoon. JK 47 just released an album and visit the 
sunday parties almost every week. And rounding out in the most smooth way will 
be Cherry Beach favourites Nick and Pierre and Amanda (Freedom). Theres also 
two metal head guys wailing on guitars live for a short show, smooth too but 
different smooth.


3.00 JK47 - dubby downtempo
4.30 Naw - live techno
5.30 Mythic from Ottawa - sunny afternoon house
6.30 Electric Opus - live metal
7.00 Nick and Pierre - dreamy funkmash
8.00 Adam Marshall - house!
9.00 OBU from Montreal - mellow electro, house and techno
10.0 Freedom - strawberry jelly drum and bass


Bring a frisbee, bring a kite, bring a handy sweater, bring a dog (only nice 
dogs), bring your lover and a hammock. And pass the time on this lazy sunny 
sunday afternoon with friends and friends of friends.


3 to 11pm sunday - east end of the park, in from the water.

directions to Cherry Beach: Take Lakeshore Blvd east of downtown just past 
Parliament. Turn south down Cherry Street all the way to the end, then go east 
into the parking lot on your left. At the furthest east of the lot walk along 
the bike path and turn left up the trail into the woods... you'll hear music. 
If you end up at the lake, you're going the wrong way.


Biking to Cherry Beach is easy along the paths beside the lake, a new bus route 
from Union Station goes down there too.


things to think about: Please bring only what you plan to take back out with 
you - leave no trace. Pack something warm (it gets cool after dark by the lake) 
and something to sit on and also something to keep sun off your head. Drink 
lots of water. Bring something to share.


And remember while down at the beach to take care of your friends, your 
neighbours, and what's going on around you. It's what makes the sunday 
afternoons happen smoothly.


If the weather turns grey the day of, call 416 323 0361 for the contingency 
plan.



all the best,
David and Irving




www.phoniq.net
releases available on:
www.noisefactoryrecords.com
publication:
www.vagueterrain.net



Re: (313) naw live show this sunday july 30th cherry beach (fwd)

2006-07-28 Thread Matt Kane's Brain

On Jul 28, 2006, at 14:58, Neil Wiernik wrote:

10.0 Freedom - strawberry jelly drum and bass


huh?

--
matt kane's brain
http://hydrogenproject.com
aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: (313) naw live show this sunday july 30th cherry beach (fwd)

2006-07-28 Thread Neil Wiernik


dude this is not my party I dont have answers Im just PLAYING AT IT...
;)
dj freedom shes been playing drum 
and bass since the late 90s... you might remember her from her release on 
nice and smooth a few years back...



On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Matt Kane's Brain wrote:


On Jul 28, 2006, at 14:58, Neil Wiernik wrote:

10.0 Freedom - strawberry jelly drum and bass


huh?

--
matt kane's brain
http://hydrogenproject.com
aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






www.phoniq.net
releases available on:
www.noisefactoryrecords.com
publication:
www.vagueterrain.net


(313) fingers track ID

2006-07-28 Thread Guilherme Menegon Arantes

Hi list,

Do you know if the playlists of the Mr. Fingers older mixes on
deephousepage.com are available somewhere???
Otherwise, can someone ID the song around 24 minutes in the following
mix: http://dhpmixes.com/mixes/LarryHeard101505deephousepage.mp3
In fact, I am ondering about all tracks after Only Friend...

Regards

G

--

Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD   Sao Paulo, Brasil
__



(313) [312] Dan Bell in chicago for free monday 31st.

2006-07-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Playing at the Metro. Part of the SummerDance DJ series. Scroll down:
http://metrochicago.com/shows/

Also of interest this weekend in [312] is the Pitchfork Festival:
http://www.pitchforkmusicfestival.com/

...steve...




(313) xltronic radio *live now*

2006-07-28 Thread phobiazero
evening fellow 313-members,

some great electronic music is being performed by DJ Aestehetics right now:

http://xltronic.com:8000/listen.pls


cheers,
phobiazero
http://xltronic.com






Re: (313) [312] Dan Bell in chicago for free monday 31st.

2006-07-28 Thread Todd Sines

I'm playing live downstairs that night as .xtrak after Dan Bell

Monday, July 31
Kode Nation presents... Exhaustion: Traxx's Birthday Party...
TODD SINES
JAMES COTTON
D'MARC CANTU
TRAXX
NASTY NES
NAUGHTY WOOD
BRIAN GARDNER
Tickets: $7
21  over


http://www.scale.gs/sound/sines/djsets.html

see you there.??


+odd
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Playing at the Metro. Part of the SummerDance DJ series. Scroll down:
http://metrochicago.com/shows/

Also of interest this weekend in [312] is the Pitchfork Festival:
http://www.pitchforkmusicfestival.com/

...steve...







--
Todd Sines
director
+ SCALE:  http://www.scale.gs/
+1.646.330.4873 studio
195 Chrystie St. #403A, NY, NY 10002
//
connecting the space between + within.


(313) Andrew Duke--Consumer vs. User remix contest reminder

2006-07-28 Thread Andrew Duke
Just a reminder to the producers on the list (and anyone who would like 
to help

spread the word):

The deadline for entries in the Andrew Duke--Consumer vs. User remix 
contest is

August 31, 2006--just about a month from now.
In case you missed the info first time 'round:
remix material from Andrew Duke's Consumer vs. User album (just released 
on California's Phthalo http://www.phthalo.com/cat.php?cat=phth40 and 
featuring a remix of the 313 list's own Phonopsia) for a chance to be 
released on Stratagem Musik (http://stratagem-musik.com) and win cool prizes
including a grand prize of a copy of Native Instruments Reaktor, plus 
software from FXpansion and

Audiomulch, magazine subscriptions, CD-ROMs, books, CDs, and more;
http://andrew-duke.com/contests.html has the details.
Again, contest deadline is August 31, 2006.  And there's another remix 
contest (different source material and prizes) starting up August 15.


Thanks.

--
Andrew Duke
scoring/sound design/source
http://andrew-duke.com
http://myspace.com/andrewduke
http://cognitionaudioworks.com
http://myspace.com/cognitionaudioworks