(313) money makes the world go round

2010-02-10 Thread Marsel van der Wielen

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Top-100-Highest-Selling-Price/11450
http://blog.discogs.com/2010/02/top-100-music-w-highest-selling-price.html


Re: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night

2010-02-10 Thread Fred Heutte
I've always liked Hall & Oates as good quality pop -- Abandoned
Luncheonette is actually quite remarkable in some ways.  And of course
they have been heavily sampled by De La and many others... But ... DEMF?
WTF??

fh

-
>I don't know, watch the awesome keyboard knob turn in the intro:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÌenFp_3kq8
>
>Guilty pleasure, I actually love parts of this song and was
>considering sampling it for a deep house cut... In some subtle fashion
>of course. Maybe for something in the 112-116 bpm range.
>
>~David
>
>On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:57 PM,   wrote:
>> When I think of Detroit Techno, Hall & Oates always pops into my head...
>>
>> NOT !
>>
>> telepathic regards,
>> the kooky scientist
>>
>> PS.  If I get asked to play I will work on a technofied Hall & Oates section 
>> of my set.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Denise Dalphond" 
>> To: "kent williams" 
>> Cc: "list 313" <313@hyperreal.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 9:32:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: Re: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night
>>
>> I know, hilarious! Hall & Oats is almost like Prince and B-52s in
>> Detroit. :) It's like Scott Grooves dropping some Christopher Cross,
>> or Rick Wilhite playing Queen or Devo. It just makes perfect sense!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:44 PM, kent williams  wrote:
>>> DEMF-related:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/ycsu5cy
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Denise Dalphond
>> Ph.D. Candidate
>> Department of Folklore & Ethnomusicology
>> Indiana University
>> http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
>>
>



Re: (313) money makes the world go round

2010-02-10 Thread Martin Dust



> http://www.discogs.com/lists/Top-100-Highest-Selling-Price/11450
> http://blog.discogs.com/2010/02/top-100-music-w-highest-selling-price.html

Crikey, I have five things in the top 50 in my collection

m



Re: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night

2010-02-10 Thread Martin Dust

On 10 Feb 2010, at 07:10, Fred Heutte wrote:

> I've always liked Hall & Oates as good quality pop -- Abandoned
> Luncheonette is actually quite remarkable in some ways.  And of course
> they have been heavily sampled by De La and many others... But ... DEMF?
> WTF??

Rather them than say Crookers :)

m


Re: (313) New WPA record

2010-02-10 Thread Martin Dust
Hey Ang,

How comes Submerge only use UPS? $36 is a lot of wedge for postage.

m



On 10 Feb 2010, at 03:02, Detroit Techno Militia wrote:

> I just received the message from Submerge.  There is going to be a new
> WPA record.
> Bridgette has samples up on the Submerge site and this release is
> going to be mail order only.
> 
> From her message:
> WPA-4UR-079: For those who know, a new WPA release has been identified.
> http://www.submerge.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=WPA-4UR-079
> 
> More music..less talk.
> 
> Angela Schwendemann
> Label Manager
> Detroit Techno Militia
> http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
> 313-449-8655



RE: (313) money makes the world go round

2010-02-10 Thread francis
Oooh, that made me look again.  I have one I think (I have 2 of the titles but 
I think the other is a boot).

However when looking again more closely what really caught my eye was number 75 
and 76!!!

Anyone heard these?  Especially the Derrick?



> From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com]
> Sent: 10 February 2010 9:47
> 
> 
> > http://www.discogs.com/lists/Top-100-Highest-Selling-Price/11450
> > http://blog.discogs.com/2010/02/top-100-music-w-highest-selling-price.html
> 
> Crikey, I have five things in the top 50 in my collection
> 
> m




Re: (313) money makes the world go round

2010-02-10 Thread Martin Dust

On 10 Feb 2010, at 10:06,  
 wrote:

> Oooh, that made me look again.  I have one I think (I have 2 of the titles 
> but I think the other is a boot).

Some of those prices are crazy, all the same if you must have something I can 
kinda understand it.

m

RE: (313) money makes the world go round

2010-02-10 Thread francis
Also - related.  I was just saying to Robin last night (we were talking records 
/ collections generally) I always assumed any
mainstream LPs on majors from over 10 years back wouldn't have high second hand 
value, as they were produced in sufficient quantity
at the time that there'd be plenty of supply knocking about.  Not talking 
obscure weirdies / limited things / things with faults /
very early releases on smaller labels etc.

A couple of things recently have shown me this isn't the case (maybe many of 
you are puzzled that I thought it was!):

I was talking with someone at a meal who told me she wanted Talk Talk : 
Laughing Stock on vinyl, but it goes for around £300.  I was
partly pleased as I knew I had it.  But I was (and still am) more worried as I 
don't know if I *still* have it, if I do I don't know
if it's stashed in some corner of my flat or up at my father's place - or even 
if might have just got sat on at a party at mine or
some similar awful fate that has befallen a few of my records.

Then a friend in a shop asked me the other day if I wanted vinyl of the new 
Sade LP saving.  I was kind of "no, sure if I get that
it'll just be a download to listen to on my phone".  And he was "do you know 
the last one" (late 90s I think?) "goes for round
£150?".  I think it's one of the few things *ever* I thought "I'm not going to 
DJ with *that*" and so got the CD!




> From: fran...@thatamazingthing.com [mailto:fran...@thatamazingthing.com]
> Sent: 10 February 2010 10:07
> 
> Oooh, that made me look again.  I have one I think (I have 2 of the titles 
> but I think the other is a boot).
> 
> However when looking again more closely what really caught my eye was number 
> 75 and 76!!!
> 
> Anyone heard these?  Especially the Derrick?
> 
> 
> > From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com]
> > Sent: 10 February 2010 9:47
> >
> >
> > > http://www.discogs.com/lists/Top-100-Highest-Selling-Price/11450
> > > http://blog.discogs.com/2010/02/top-100-music-w-highest-selling-price.html
> >
> > Crikey, I have five things in the top 50 in my collection
> >
> > m



Re: (313) Vinyl Shops in Manhattan?

2010-02-10 Thread kuszyn...@gmail.com
The topic is good, but if you want anything other than hipster
brooklyn rock, head to brooklyn.  First go to halcyon near the
manhattan bridge, and then dope jams on myrtle.  Both are quite
different, and halcyon is much older and bigger.  Both have quite
diverse, and often detroit centric music and miscellany.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Arturo Lopez  wrote:
> Awesome! thanks Frank and Klaus. I figured there were 10,000 record
> shops, thanks for narrowing it down.
>
> -Art
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:58 PM, klaus boss  wrote:
>> Please allow me to point out this index on Discogs
>>
>> http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/86816
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:50 AM, Arturo Lopez 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm going to be up in Manhattan next weekend, was wondering if any
>>> 313ers had any recommendations for NY vinyl shops that carry things of
>>> a Detroit-flavor.  I don't know a thing about the NYC scene so not
>>> sure if that kind of sound gets stocked very much out there.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -Arturo
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Klaus B
>>
>


Re: (313) Vinyl Shops in Manhattan?

2010-02-10 Thread kuszyn...@gmail.com
Sorry for double posting, but my point is that all the manhattan shops
stock are hipster brooklyn rock (and yes, brooklyn record shops stock
brooklyn hipster rock too).  The two I mention below in brooklyn stock
electronic music.  I actually don't know of any real valid manhattan
electronic music store.  Other Music technically stocks new
electronic, but it's a rock focused place.

If you want the vibe of a good underground style electronic vinyl
shop, I stand by my recommendations.

Stores that CLOSED that had good vibes, at least that I got to visit:
vinyl market on 10th run by a cool hard to understand japanese dude,
place on 3rd street that used to stock a lot house music in east
village, etherea, and satellite (unless they have some secret location
I don't know).

Turntable lab is a cool place if you want to look at cool production
and dj gear, that's also in the east village.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:12 AM, kuszyn...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> The topic is good, but if you want anything other than hipster
> brooklyn rock, head to brooklyn.  First go to halcyon near the
> manhattan bridge, and then dope jams on myrtle.  Both are quite
> different, and halcyon is much older and bigger.  Both have quite
> diverse, and often detroit centric music and miscellany.
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Arturo Lopez  
> wrote:
>> Awesome! thanks Frank and Klaus. I figured there were 10,000 record
>> shops, thanks for narrowing it down.
>>
>> -Art
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:58 PM, klaus boss  wrote:
>>> Please allow me to point out this index on Discogs
>>>
>>> http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/86816
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:50 AM, Arturo Lopez 
>>> wrote:

 I'm going to be up in Manhattan next weekend, was wondering if any
 313ers had any recommendations for NY vinyl shops that carry things of
 a Detroit-flavor.  I don't know a thing about the NYC scene so not
 sure if that kind of sound gets stocked very much out there.

 Thanks,

 -Arturo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Klaus B
>>>
>>
>


RE: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night

2010-02-10 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Pardon me,  but wtf does it say that please?

Ken


-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:53 AM
To: Fred Heutte
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night


On 10 Feb 2010, at 07:10, Fred Heutte wrote:

> I've always liked Hall & Oates as good quality pop -- Abandoned
> Luncheonette is actually quite remarkable in some ways.  And of course
> they have been heavily sampled by De La and many others... But ... DEMF?
> WTF??

Rather them than say Crookers :)

m


Re: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night

2010-02-10 Thread telepathic
Maybe Paxahau should book the CARS. They have nothing to do with 
Detroit-Techno, they don't play live anymore but at least they named themselves 
after something made in Detroit. ; P 

telepathic regards, 
the Kooky Scientist 


- Original Message - 
From: "Denise Dalphond"  
To: telepat...@comcast.net 
Cc: "list 313" <313@hyperreal.org>, "kent williams"  
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 10:11:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night 

Yeah, I know, but I seriously think it's coming from a strong local 
desire to expand musical genres that are presented at the festival - 
like George Clinton, De La Soul, or Saul Williams in earlier years. 
And maybe this is contrary to popular opinion/assumption, but Detroit 
techno and house artists in Detroit are really not genre police. Most 
folks are way more interested in educating people about all the 
different kinds of music that have been and continue to be influential 
to Detroit techno...and house, and electro, and booty, and on and on. 

Denise 

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:57 PM,  wrote: 
> When I think of Detroit Techno, Hall & Oates always pops into my head... 
> 
> NOT ! 
> 
> telepathic regards, 
> the kooky scientist 
> 
> PS. If I get asked to play I will work on a technofied Hall & Oates section 
> of my set. 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Denise Dalphond 
Ph.D. Candidate 
Department of Folklore & Ethnomusicology 
Indiana University 
http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/ 


Re: (313) money makes the world go round

2010-02-10 Thread Frank Glazer
this is awesome. discogs could be so much more useful a tool if they
would aggregate more data like this.  i've often wished for a
searchable "record rarity rating" based on some algorithm involving
math done on data such as copies wantlisted vs. copies in collections
vs. available copies for sale vs. typical sale value.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:51 AM, Marsel van der Wielen
 wrote:
> http://www.discogs.com/lists/Top-100-Highest-Selling-Price/11450
> http://blog.discogs.com/2010/02/top-100-music-w-highest-selling-price.html
>



-- 
peace,

frank

dj mix archive:  http://www.deejaycountzero.com


Re: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night

2010-02-10 Thread lisa
perhaps Oates' moustache could be the opening act, I hear there are 
people in Detroit with moustaches who listen to techno ...


http://www.facebook.com/pages/John-Oates-Moustache/30246389654

lisa


telepat...@comcast.net wrote:
Maybe Paxahau should book the CARS. They have nothing to do with Detroit-Techno, they don't play live anymore but at least they named themselves after something made in Detroit. ; P 

telepathic regards, 
the Kooky Scientist 



- Original Message - 
From: "Denise Dalphond"  
To: telepat...@comcast.net 
Cc: "list 313" <313@hyperreal.org>, "kent williams"  
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 10:11:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night 

Yeah, I know, but I seriously think it's coming from a strong local 
desire to expand musical genres that are presented at the festival - 
like George Clinton, De La Soul, or Saul Williams in earlier years. 
And maybe this is contrary to popular opinion/assumption, but Detroit 
techno and house artists in Detroit are really not genre police. Most 
folks are way more interested in educating people about all the 
different kinds of music that have been and continue to be influential 
to Detroit techno...and house, and electro, and booty, and on and on. 

Denise 

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:57 PM,  wrote: 
When I think of Detroit Techno, Hall & Oates always pops into my head... 

NOT ! 

telepathic regards, 
the kooky scientist 

PS. If I get asked to play I will work on a technofied Hall & Oates section of my set. 








Re: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night

2010-02-10 Thread Kevin Kennedy
I found this thread to be interesting.  The issue I have with it is
not that Hall and Oates aren't relevant to electronic music.  But do
we really need to push this word of influence any further?  I remember
them being described as "blue-eyed soul."  "White Motown?"  This
doesn't have to do with colour for me, but I bring this up for one
reason-Gillespie and others have latched on to this idea saying that
hall and oates are as relevant as the other acts being booked for the
festival.  Sure they are.  I guess I remember it being called the
Detroit Electronic Music Festival not the Artists Who Are All
Influenced By Detroit and its Various Sounds and Want to Play in
Detroit to Validate Their Career Festival.

 I just say that whereas I agree with this thing in principle (I
know it won't happen unless it's Chromeo and Darryl Hall), I also
think that we all are forgetting that Paxahau is like a Frank Zappa
album title:  "were only in this for the money."

So if it will make dollars, it will make sense.  they'll have a
publicist tell us why it's relevant, and someone to corral us into a
line for tickets.

 Oh. and since I'm not from the D, take what I say with a grain of salt.



On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:27 AM, lisa  wrote:
> perhaps Oates' moustache could be the opening act, I hear there are people
> in Detroit with moustaches who listen to techno ...
>
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/John-Oates-Moustache/30246389654
>
> lisa
>
>
> telepat...@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>> Maybe Paxahau should book the CARS. They have nothing to do with
>> Detroit-Techno, they don't play live anymore but at least they named
>> themselves after something made in Detroit. ; P
>> telepathic regards, the Kooky Scientist
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Denise Dalphond"
>>  To: telepat...@comcast.net Cc: "list 313"
>> <313@hyperreal.org>, "kent williams"  Sent: Tuesday,
>> February 9, 2010 10:11:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: (313)
>> my WTF Facebook moment for the night
>> Yeah, I know, but I seriously think it's coming from a strong local desire
>> to expand musical genres that are presented at the festival - like George
>> Clinton, De La Soul, or Saul Williams in earlier years. And maybe this is
>> contrary to popular opinion/assumption, but Detroit techno and house artists
>> in Detroit are really not genre police. Most folks are way more interested
>> in educating people about all the different kinds of music that have been
>> and continue to be influential to Detroit techno...and house, and electro,
>> and booty, and on and on.
>> Denise
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:57 PM,  wrote:
>>>
>>> When I think of Detroit Techno, Hall & Oates always pops into my head...
>>> NOT !
>>> telepathic regards, the kooky scientist
>>> PS. If I get asked to play I will work on a technofied Hall & Oates
>>> section of my set.
>>>
>>>
>>
>



-- 
fbk

sleepengineering/absoloop US


Re: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night

2010-02-10 Thread kent williams
First of all, I think the whole Hall & Oates @ DEMF thing isn't 100%
serious, and I doubt Paxahau even has H&O on their radar. And it's
Carl Craig who will (mostly) be programming this year ...

I think hating on Paxahau is a waste of time.  In the world of event
promotion they're a large scale business who depends on punters
through the door to stay in business. That means they will book people
we don't care for.  To say they're only in it for the money is unfair,
because while I haven't met Jason, everyone else who I have met from
Paxahau has been a big music fan, and they take the idea of the
festival very seriously.

And think about it -- the festival is probably the most difficult,
time consuming way possible for Paxahau to make money.  They could do
better for much less effort booking psytrance DJs and Hard House DJs
into St. Andrews.  I'm sure there's a Detroit equivalent to NYC's
Bridge & Tunnel Guidos -- are their entertainment needs being met in
the Detroit Metro area?

There are currently 444 people on the 313 list, and while we might
imagine ourselves as keepers of the sacred flame, 444 geographically
scattered people probably couldn't even agree on a proper lineup, much
less program a financially sustainable annual festival.


On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Kevin Kennedy  wrote:
>  I also think that we all are forgetting that Paxahau is like a Frank Zappa
> album title:  "were only in this for the money."
>


Re: (313) New WPA record

2010-02-10 Thread Southern Outpost
This record and John Collins new one (UR-80) is some hot hot wax
been waiting for UR to hit with this sound again.


P.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Detroit Techno Militia
 wrote:
> I just received the message from Submerge.  There is going to be a new
> WPA record.
> Bridgette has samples up on the Submerge site and this release is
> going to be mail order only.
>
> From her message:
> WPA-4UR-079: For those who know, a new WPA release has been identified.
> http://www.submerge.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=WPA-4UR-079
>
> More music..less talk.
>
> Angela Schwendemann
> Label Manager
> Detroit Techno Militia
> http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
> 313-449-8655
>


Re: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night

2010-02-10 Thread Michael Elliot-Knight
Well, having just acquired the Hall and Oats box set I must say they're 
serious soul boys.  Their earliest releases were straight up Philly soul.
They have been sampled quite a bit by house music producers.

Chromeo - now there's some straight up retro 80s overkill bandwagon 
jumping cheese right there

but hey, if they're playing Bonaroo this year and so is Stevie Wonder... 
they should go big and try to book Stevie

Kevin is smack on the point though with the Paxahau/Zappa title comparison

Hey, wasn't Carl Craig supposed to be curating it again?  I thought there 
was a press release some time back about that.
Whatever happened to that?
Sorry if this has been covered previously,  I haven't been paying much 
attention to the list discussions as I've been in deep into 
Free/"Spiritual" Jazz world lately
Can someone repost to me the original email that kicked off this 
discussion?


MEK

Kevin Kennedy  wrote on 02/10/2010 10:46:12 AM:

> I found this thread to be interesting.  The issue I have with it is
> not that Hall and Oates aren't relevant to electronic music.  But do
> we really need to push this word of influence any further?  I remember
> them being described as "blue-eyed soul."  "White Motown?"  This
> doesn't have to do with colour for me, but I bring this up for one
> reason-Gillespie and others have latched on to this idea saying that
> hall and oates are as relevant as the other acts being booked for the
> festival.  Sure they are.  I guess I remember it being called the
> Detroit Electronic Music Festival not the Artists Who Are All
> Influenced By Detroit and its Various Sounds and Want to Play in
> Detroit to Validate Their Career Festival.
> 
>  I just say that whereas I agree with this thing in principle (I
> know it won't happen unless it's Chromeo and Darryl Hall), I also
> think that we all are forgetting that Paxahau is like a Frank Zappa
> album title:  "were only in this for the money."
> 
> So if it will make dollars, it will make sense.  they'll have a
> publicist tell us why it's relevant, and someone to corral us into a
> line for tickets.
> 
>  Oh. and since I'm not from the D, take what I say with a grain of 
salt.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:27 AM, lisa  wrote:
> > perhaps Oates' moustache could be the opening act, I hear there are 
people
> > in Detroit with moustaches who listen to techno ...
> >
> > http://www.facebook.com/pages/John-Oates-Moustache/30246389654
> >
> > lisa
> >
> >
> > telepat...@comcast.net wrote:
> >>
> >> Maybe Paxahau should book the CARS. They have nothing to do with
> >> Detroit-Techno, they don't play live anymore but at least they named
> >> themselves after something made in Detroit. ; P
> >> telepathic regards, the Kooky Scientist
> >>
> >> - Original Message - From: "Denise Dalphond"
> >>  To: telepat...@comcast.net Cc: "list 313"
> >> <313@hyperreal.org>, "kent williams"  
> Sent: Tuesday,
> >> February 9, 2010 10:11:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: (313)
> >> my WTF Facebook moment for the night
> >> Yeah, I know, but I seriously think it's coming from a strong local 
desire
> >> to expand musical genres that are presented at the festival - like 
George
> >> Clinton, De La Soul, or Saul Williams in earlier years. And maybe 
this is
> >> contrary to popular opinion/assumption, but Detroit techno and 
> house artists
> >> in Detroit are really not genre police. Most folks are way more 
interested
> >> in educating people about all the different kinds of music that have 
been
> >> and continue to be influential to Detroit techno...and house, and 
electro,
> >> and booty, and on and on.
> >> Denise
> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:57 PM,  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> When I think of Detroit Techno, Hall & Oates always pops into my 
head...
> >>> NOT !
> >>> telepathic regards, the kooky scientist
> >>> PS. If I get asked to play I will work on a technofied Hall & Oates
> >>> section of my set.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> fbk
> 
> sleepengineering/absoloop US



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Re: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night

2010-02-10 Thread Kevin Kennedy
The reason I mentioned Chromeo is that someone on fb posted a youtube
clip featuring Darryl Hall talking and playing with them.  I am not
really trashing Paxahau, since I usually make the trip to Detroit for
the festival anyhow, whether I'm playing or not.  I am at a point with
this that all promoters are less in need of my support and more in
need of my money.  I like Hall and Oates.  Let's get that
straight...as a kid I had nearly all of their 7" singles.

What I am saying is that what the festival started out as and what
the line ups show up as now seem to be in opposition.  And if C2 is
curating this year, then I guess that it is what it is.

Stevie would be much more apropos, but that costs more money than I'd
imagine any of us have (Would you pay $100 to Paxahau for the one day
that Stevie's playing?).  Anyhow, I am just stirring up trouble.

Nobody can agree on who should/should not play the festival.  Probably
not even the people involved with Paxahau.  Labeling and Genrefication
tend to annoy me anyhow.

cheers,

Kevin  (be looking for new works by me soon.  www.soundcloud.com/fbk)


Re: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night

2010-02-10 Thread Matt Chester
I spoke to Cliff @ Submerge this morning and he said Carl is  
definitely curating this year.   How much complete control he has is  
anyones guess of course...


By the way, when did Saul Williams play at the festival?! I would have  
killed to see that.   I don't think more than 2 weeks have gone by in  
the last 2 years when I haven't played his album...


On 10 Feb 2010, at 17:32, Michael Elliot-Knight wrote:

Well, having just acquired the Hall and Oats box set I must say  
they're
serious soul boys.  Their earliest releases were straight up Philly  
soul.

They have been sampled quite a bit by house music producers.

Chromeo - now there's some straight up retro 80s overkill bandwagon
jumping cheese right there

but hey, if they're playing Bonaroo this year and so is Stevie  
Wonder...

they should go big and try to book Stevie

Kevin is smack on the point though with the Paxahau/Zappa title  
comparison


Hey, wasn't Carl Craig supposed to be curating it again?  I thought  
there

was a press release some time back about that.
Whatever happened to that?
Sorry if this has been covered previously,  I haven't been paying much
attention to the list discussions as I've been in deep into
Free/"Spiritual" Jazz world lately
Can someone repost to me the original email that kicked off this
discussion?


MEK

Kevin Kennedy  wrote on 02/10/2010 10:46:12 AM:


I found this thread to be interesting.  The issue I have with it is
not that Hall and Oates aren't relevant to electronic music.  But do
we really need to push this word of influence any further?  I  
remember

them being described as "blue-eyed soul."  "White Motown?"  This
doesn't have to do with colour for me, but I bring this up for one
reason-Gillespie and others have latched on to this idea saying that
hall and oates are as relevant as the other acts being booked for the
festival.  Sure they are.  I guess I remember it being called the
Detroit Electronic Music Festival not the Artists Who Are All
Influenced By Detroit and its Various Sounds and Want to Play in
Detroit to Validate Their Career Festival.

I just say that whereas I agree with this thing in principle (I
know it won't happen unless it's Chromeo and Darryl Hall), I also
think that we all are forgetting that Paxahau is like a Frank Zappa
album title:  "were only in this for the money."

   So if it will make dollars, it will make sense.  they'll have a
publicist tell us why it's relevant, and someone to corral us into a
line for tickets.

Oh. and since I'm not from the D, take what I say with a grain of

salt.




On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:27 AM, lisa   
wrote:

perhaps Oates' moustache could be the opening act, I hear there are

people

in Detroit with moustaches who listen to techno ...

http://www.facebook.com/pages/John-Oates-Moustache/30246389654

lisa


telepat...@comcast.net wrote:


Maybe Paxahau should book the CARS. They have nothing to do with
Detroit-Techno, they don't play live anymore but at least they  
named

themselves after something made in Detroit. ; P
telepathic regards, the Kooky Scientist

- Original Message - From: "Denise Dalphond"
 To: telepat...@comcast.net Cc: "list 313"
<313@hyperreal.org>, "kent williams" 

Sent: Tuesday,

February 9, 2010 10:11:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

Subject: Re: (313)

my WTF Facebook moment for the night
Yeah, I know, but I seriously think it's coming from a strong local

desire

to expand musical genres that are presented at the festival - like

George

Clinton, De La Soul, or Saul Williams in earlier years. And maybe

this is

contrary to popular opinion/assumption, but Detroit techno and

house artists

in Detroit are really not genre police. Most folks are way more

interested
in educating people about all the different kinds of music that  
have

been

and continue to be influential to Detroit techno...and house, and

electro,

and booty, and on and on.
Denise
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:57 PM,  wrote:


When I think of Detroit Techno, Hall & Oates always pops into my

head...

NOT !
telepathic regards, the kooky scientist
PS. If I get asked to play I will work on a technofied Hall &  
Oates

section of my set.










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Re: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night

2010-02-10 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
In 2001. I think he played right before Kid Koala.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 14:14, Matt Chester  wrote:
> By the way, when did Saul Williams play at the festival?! I would have
> killed to see that.   I don't think more than 2 weeks have gone by in the
> last 2 years when I haven't played his album...

-- 
matt kane's brain
http://hydrogenproject.com
capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com
aim -> mkbatwerk ; y! -> mkb218 ; gtalk -> mkb.dirtyorg
I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com


Re: (313) New WPA record

2010-02-10 Thread Mike Taylor
I can't speak for UR, but I have seen some interesting things happen
with USPS when you try to ship international.

I have a promo package for CP01 that I sent to RA in Berlin that went
from Austin, Texas, to Switzerland, to Germany, to Spain, back to
Austin, and then to Portland, Maine. This trip took two months. The
only reason I know this is because I have stamps from the different
countries on the cardboard mailer. This was the second package that I
sent out, the first one just disappeared completely. This happened
twice in a row.

It costs about 17-20usd to send a package of records over to Europe
from the states. That is just the postage, it doesn't include the cost
of the merch itself. That can kill your already thin margins if you do
a lot of overseas business and lose a few packages a month.

Omar S. has the same disclaimer on his website regarding USPS shipping.

Take care,
mt

> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Martin Dust 
> To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:01:51 +
> Subject: Re: (313) New WPA record
> Hey Ang,
>
> How comes Submerge only use UPS? $36 is a lot of wedge for postage.
>
> m


Re: (313) my WTF Facebook moment for the night

2010-02-10 Thread Matt Chester

Figures.  The line ups back then were insane.


On 10 Feb 2010, at 19:17, Matt Kane's Brain wrote:


In 2001. I think he played right before Kid Koala.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 14:14, Matt Chester > wrote:
By the way, when did Saul Williams play at the festival?! I would  
have
killed to see that.   I don't think more than 2 weeks have gone by  
in the

last 2 years when I haven't played his album...


--
matt kane's brain
http://hydrogenproject.com
capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com
aim -> mkbatwerk ; y! -> mkb218 ; gtalk -> mkb.dirtyorg
I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com




Re: (313) New WPA record

2010-02-10 Thread Jussi Lehtonen


"Yeah" on UR-080 sounds especially nice.


- J


On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Southern Outpost wrote:


This record and John Collins new one (UR-80) is some hot hot wax
been waiting for UR to hit with this sound again.


P.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Detroit Techno Militia
 wrote:

I just received the message from Submerge.  There is going to be a new
WPA record.
Bridgette has samples up on the Submerge site and this release is
going to be mail order only.

From her message:
WPA-4UR-079: For those who know, a new WPA release has been identified.
http://www.submerge.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=WPA-4UR-079

More music..less talk.

Angela Schwendemann
Label Manager
Detroit Techno Militia
http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
313-449-8655



Re: (313) New WPA record

2010-02-10 Thread Detroit Techno Militia
Too many issues shipping with USPS.  If you want to take your chances,
I'd be more than happy to pick one up for you and send it 1st class.
:)

Angela Schwendemann
Label Manager
Detroit Techno Militia
http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
313-449-8655



On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Martin Dust  wrote:
> Hey Ang,
>
> How comes Submerge only use UPS? $36 is a lot of wedge for postage.
>
> m
>
>
>
> On 10 Feb 2010, at 03:02, Detroit Techno Militia wrote:
>
>> I just received the message from Submerge.  There is going to be a new
>> WPA record.
>> Bridgette has samples up on the Submerge site and this release is
>> going to be mail order only.
>>
>> From her message:
>> WPA-4UR-079: For those who know, a new WPA release has been identified.
>> http://www.submerge.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=WPA-4UR-079
>>
>> More music..less talk.
>>
>> Angela Schwendemann
>> Label Manager
>> Detroit Techno Militia
>> http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
>> 313-449-8655
>
>