Re: Cybotron vs Louis Vuitton

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Virgil Abloh is a DJ in his own right as well

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 7:23 PM Patrick Wacher  wrote:

> From what I understand, the head menswear guy at LV, Virgil Abloh, is a
> bit of a techno/house head. It seems he has good taste in music!
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:49 AM Ronny Pries  wrote:
>
>> Am i the only one thinking "wtf Vuitton"?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 17. Jan 2020, at 19:21, Mister Jones  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> This is just too dope. It's a good mix of different renditions of both
>> Cybotron and Model 500 music.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:04 AM Patrick Wacher 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.factmag.com/2020/01/17/cybotron-live-louis-vuitton-fashion-week/
>>>
>>> ⌘⌥P
>>>
>>

MAGIC017 - Placid Angles "First Blue Sky" LP - SoundCloud

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Listen to MAGIC017 - Placid Angles "First Blue Sky" LP by Magicwire #np on
#SoundCloud
https://soundcloud.com/magicwire/magic017-placid-angles-first-blue-sky-lp

Re: Purpose Maker sample

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Sorry, I should have been more specific - yes, it is the intro, the first
few seconds and it is Outsiders.

https://www.discogs.com/Jeff-Mills-Java-EP/release/946

Thanks to Benn, Don, Kent and Jason. So, I have learnt something new today
regarding Detroit techno. I would call that a win. 

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 10:18 PM Jason Brunton  wrote:

> A, maybe it’s that then?  Nice one Benn!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 13 Dec 2018, at 22:06, Benn Glazier  wrote:
>
> Java was the one that came to mind. But Trinidad IS sampled by Tori Amos'
> "Professional Widow", the club anthem Armand van Helden mix. Which got me
> thinking about Carl Craig's remix of "God" by Amos which in turn got me
> thinking about some of the other exquisite mixes he's done of pop songs
> amongst others.
>
> Here's a Spotify list of a bunch of his remixes I put together a few
> months back.
>
> https://open.spotify.com/user/1174087448/playlist/7hqBu8iEsgo99cNJeZZDiR?si=-dohAYStQ4y6Jn8caevH6Q
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 21:47 kent williams  wrote:
>
>> Which Purpose Maker track?
>>
>> There's some similar conga sounds on "Java" but if there's latin
>> Percussion on a Mills track it's almost always Roland TR-727 latin drum
>> machine action.
>>
>> If you want a real sample spotting challenge there's some orchestral hits
>> that are severely EQed but I know I've heard it before on "Automatic"
>> Salsoul Orchestra? https://youtu.be/JVNb_Ptkcn4
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 3:36 PM Aidan O'Doherty <
>> aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> https://youtu.be/cwmlrueeLhQ
>>>
>>> Am I mad, or did Mills sample the above track for one of his Purpose
>>> Maker tracks?
>>>
>> --
>
> --
> b...@bennglazier.com
> WWW.BENNGLAZIER.COM
>
>

Purpose Maker sample

[Aidan O'Doherty]

https://youtu.be/cwmlrueeLhQ

Am I mad, or did Mills sample the above track for one of his Purpose Maker
tracks?

Re: Mad Mike Tresor interview

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Nope, Todd Sines has been off my radar for while, so thanks for the heads
up, Jason.

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 8:41 PM ja...@iridite.com  wrote:

> I just think it's 100% plain that you two trigger each other to a high
> degree and I can completely understand whybut how do we move forward
> and talk about music and the knowledge we've got about it when so many
> subjects seem to lead to a shouting match between two people?
>
> ANYHOW, did anyone check out the Todd Sines EP on Sleepers from a year or
> two ago?  Very good Detroit-ish Techno, I really liked it.
>
> https://soundcloud.com/sleepersound-2/a2-depth
>
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 20:30, Joe Marougi  wrote:
>
>> Denise,
>> The fact that you think that your views would make anyone laugh deserves
>> a thread of its own.
>>
>> Jason,
>> I hear you and I promise to tone it down.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 12:24 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> It is my sincere hope that my words make some people on this list laugh.
>>> And don’t forget about all the lurkers. Their opinions might be smart, too.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.*
>>> *ethnomusicologist*
>>> *schoolcraftwax.work *
>>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2018, at 15:19, "ja...@iridite.com" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's not me that's Unsubbing Joe...it's others.  And there's not a huge
>>> amount of traffic on here and as Kent mentioned a few weeks ago, there's a
>>> significant amount of new people on here who's first experience of the
>>> hallowed 313 list is a couple of people bickering endlessly
>>>
>>> That's nothing like the sparky and knowledgeable chats I used to see on
>>> here 15 years ago.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 20:16, Joe Marougi  wrote:
>>>
 I don’t like it when she bullies others.  They may be too polite to
 bite back but I’m not.

 I’ve received private messages from users in support of my replies.

 How about you ignore them?  Its not like it happens that often, nor
 does it get in the way of other discussions.

 If she can use posts as segways into her self/white hate by directly or
 indirectly baiting us into false race-related angles then why can’t we
 respond?

 The Drexciya video thread was a classic example.




 On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 12:08 PM ja...@iridite.com 
 wrote:

>
> Denise and Joe, is there no way you can keep your mutual animosity out
>> of this arena?  It's seriously off-putting.
>>
>
>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 17:37, Kent Sandvik  wrote:
>>
>>> Threads like this with so much hatred have nothing to do with techno
>>> and Detroit so most likely I will unsubscribe. --Kent
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 9:27 AM Manish Miglani <
>>> noreplyfut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Please unsubscribe.


 Manish Miglani

 Sent from my iPhone

 *“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens
 can change the world.  Indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.”
 Margaret Mead*

 On Dec 13, 2018, at 11:25 AM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote:

 It does stand for that. They changed the meaning of it because my
 shit was so strong.

 Joe, did you read my new article about Drexciya and Moodymann and
 UR and Theo Parrish? It’s in a book.

 Love,
 Denise


 *Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.*
 *ethnomusicologist*
 *schoolcraftwax.work *

 On Dec 13, 2018, at 12:05, Joe Marougi  wrote:

 Her “heart?”

 You mean her “hate”.

 She’s the biggest racist in this group and doesn’t even realize it.


 Her PhD probably stands for profound hate doctorate.


 On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 9:00 AM Martin Dust 
 wrote:

> Red Bull don’t actually make anything, the drink itself is
> licensed and manufactured by the original Thai licenser (Chaleo 
> Yoovidhya).
> Red Bull only exist to make money, somewhere around 6 Billion last 
> time I
> looked.
>
> All their labour goes into the brand, that’s why they buy out edgy
> sports and events, they are after the front covers rather than paying 
> for
> advertising. This also helps keep up the claim of being an edgy
> “non-marketed brand” - it cost a lot of money to do that.
>
> There target is always young kids, the next generation, pretty
> easy when they have a 70% share of the market.
>
> My experience of them is they collect people, creditability and
> “things”, they employ creative agencies to do the buying and not cheap
> agencies either.
>
> I’m surprised that Denise has any support 

Re: The Order from Ian Fink

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Yup, nice one, Ali, for the info. Thank you. Also, I see he has an album
based on his sets at Motor City Wine.


http://ianfink.bandcamp.com/album/duality-detroit-vol-1



On Wed 12 Dec 2018, 21:08 ja...@iridite.com  Thanks fort all this info Ali, really nice to hear the story and thanks
> for posting this Aidan, i'm checking it out now
>
> cheers
>
> Jason
>
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 at 17:21, Ali Berger  wrote:
>
>> Love this record. Ian is great, in his mid-20s iirc, he's a killer jazz
>> keyboard player. He has a residency on Wednesdays at Motorcity Wine where
>> it's just him and a drummer with some other guest musicians every once in a
>> while. A couple friends and I also booked him at a chillout party we did at
>> The Schvitz (a sauna/bathhouse) late in November. Ian brought a workstation
>> keyboard and a loop pedal and did over an hour of improvised deep
>> atmospheric stuff... I guess what I'm saying is keep an eye on him! I
>> believe he also features on some Omar-S stuff from the last few years if
>> you look closely. And he plays in Scott Grooves Overdubs (Scott's live band
>> project).
>>
>>
>> While I'm here, hi, I'm Ali (it's short for Alexander, I'm yet another
>> white dude). I've been living in Detroit (technically Hamtramck) since
>> September 2015, I DJ and make records and I'm very actively involved in the
>> scene here. Been lurking on the list since the Drexciya business, looking
>> forward to occasionally sharing some insight on what it's actually like
>> day-to-day here.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018, 11:28 AM Aidan O'Doherty <
>> aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://ianfink.bandcamp.com/album/the-order
>>>
>>> Like this, by an artist I've never heard of from the D. Available on
>>> digital and vinyl.
>>>
>>

The Order from Ian Fink

[Aidan O'Doherty]

http://ianfink.bandcamp.com/album/the-order

Like this, by an artist I've never heard of from the D. Available on
digital and vinyl.

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

[Aidan O'Doherty]

The only drama I want in my life is this:

https://www.discogs.com/HM-Drama-EP/release/6784



On Wed 24 Oct 2018, 17:48 ja...@iridite.com,  wrote:

> Heh - you obviously weren't part of our.discussion about Dixon Avenue
> Basement Jams a year or so ago on Facebook :)
>
> ANYWAYlet's move off the insta-drama and on to the music..much love,
> massive respect, nuff said
>
> Jason
>
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 17:42, kent williams 
> wrote:
>
>> Tom Cox got the fuck out of the 313 list when the getting was good. He's
>> still as opinionated as ever, still doing battle with the sucka MCs (aren't
>> we all?), but I think he mostly stays out of trouble these days.
>>
>> I'm trying to remember when he posted to 313 last. Something like 15
>> years ago?
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:38 AM Martin Dust 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> > On 24 Oct 2018, at 17:36, ja...@iridite.com wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Where's Tom Cox when you need him?  He's always got a calm and
>>> measured response in situations like this.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Proper LOL
>>
>>

Re: OMG OMG NEW JOHN BELTRAN!!!

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Yep, trust John Beltran to calm us all down. Classic Beltran right there.

On Wed 24 Oct 2018, 17:42 kent williams,  wrote:

> This is absolutely lovely, send the man your money.
>
> https://johnbeltranmusic.bandcamp.com/album/the-season-series-ep-autumn
>

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Ladies and gentlemen, we've only got the band back together and already
we're squabbling worse than Fleetwood Mac

Denise, Moxie is RA's go-to-person to narrate their docs. Yes, it would
have been better if they had used a Detroit native and artist, but there
are a myriad of reasons why that isn't the case, none of which I would say
are racist. The most obvious one is that they probably never thought of it.
It is a great idea and it's a pity - Stingray would have been perfect -
that it didn't happen, as it would add extra legitimacy to the project. And
if you mentioned it to RA heads, they would probably kick themselves for
not doing it.

I can actually ask someone if you want, who is an employee at RA, if they
had actually considered this.

Thanks,
Aidan

On Wed 24 Oct 2018, 16:59 ,  wrote:

> What about people of color who are on this list? You don’t know how all
> this old man thinking could be making anyone feel. It’s not a white list!
> WTF
>
> On Oct 24, 2018, at 11:58, Joe Marougi  wrote:
>
> I’m saying I’d rather continue to not post much at all than to spew racist
> views like you do.
>
> Apparently you’re not getting the hint from others that have been trying
> to point this out to you more respectfully so I’ll take one for the team
> with this approach.
>
> Couldn’t care less what you think of me.  Grow the fuck up and be happy
> that maybe at least a handful of “racist white folks” now know who Drexciya
> is and maybe even bought a release or two.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 8:50 AM  wrote:
>
>> Pathetic is one word that comes to mind when I recall Joe Marougi’s past
>> contributions to this listserv.
>>
>> Are you sad that I’m smart or triggered by truth?
>>
>>
>> Denise
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 24, 2018, at 11:32, Joe Marougi  wrote:
>>
>> Wow Denise you must really be fun at parties.  What the hell are you
>> talking about?
>>
>> That was an amazing video tribute to Drexciya and the “oppressive white
>> woman” was blowing them the whole time with mad props!?
>>
>> Maybe you’re forgetting a few things:
>>
>> - RA (or no one at all for that matter) are OBLIGATED to do anything in a
>> certain way.  Their money, their resources, their business. As long as it
>> was done with integrity and factual etc then there shouldn’t be a problem
>> with it.
>>
>> - Apparenly they felt that the woman had the voice they wanted to lead
>> the video.  Umm, let’s see...maybe because the fucking AUDIENCE they target
>> look and sound like her??  And again, it’s their dime not yours or mine.
>>
>> - Instead of being pumped that a documentary like this was released and
>> hopefully generated some more awareness for very well-deserved artists you
>> have to come in with your miserable take and try to shit on it.
>>
>> - You’re the only racist here by saying that a white person can’t make
>> something about black people, especially when it’s geared towards MORE
>> white people (their audience).
>>
>> - For fucks sake, this was a totally positive project and you’re trying
>> to make them out to be slave owners.  Are you jelly that you didn’t make
>> it??
>>
>> The only thing that sucks is if they used my man Andrew’s interview
>> without asking him, but that’s far from any sort of racial bias or angle.
>>
>> That’s like someone starving being given food then complaining it isn’t
>> filet mignon.
>>
>> Pathetic.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 7:06 AM Denise Dalphond 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I love Drexciya. And it's really cool to be able to hear from James
>>> Stinson still in 2018, thanks to Andrew Duke. And it's pretty amazing that
>>> Andrew Duke did that interview. It's a priceless artifact. I could go on!
>>>
>>> Resident Advisor didn't credit Andrew Duke when they first posted the
>>> video, and why is there a white woman's british voice narrating? It's off
>>> putting. They're using the voice of the colonizer to tell the story of
>>> brilliant, musical escape from enslavement and forced labor. Escape from
>>> the colonizer.
>>>
>>> Oh here goes Denise, making everything about race. But this actually all
>>> the way super duper is all about race and racism.
>>>
>>> And how much electronic music culture coverage is based in europe, the
>>> birthplace of imperialism and colonialism?  A lot.
>>>
>>> Music fans and writers should be more concerned about preserving and
>>> protecting and respecting the culture that made this music.
>>>
>>> Why didn't they ask Cornelius Harris to narrate? Why didn't they ask
>>> John Collins to narrate? That would be meaningful to artists and fans alike.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Denise
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.*
>>> *ethnomusicologist*
>>> *schoolcraftwax.work *
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 9:47 AM Jeff Davis 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Pretty sure most of you saw this already but I thought this short
 video did a good job encapsulating and contextualizing the concepts
 behind Drexciya.

 

Re: Jazz 'n' techno

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Ah, that's deadly. Great stuff, thanks, Kent. I can take it out of my
Discogs basket now.

On Mon 22 Oct 2018, 16:57 kent williams,  wrote:

> Check One is on Mixcloud.
> https://www.mixcloud.com/mmcm19/check-one-kirk-degiorgio-2/
>
> Not like having proper uncompressed audio but t'will serve.
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 4:21 AM gavin morrissey 
> wrote:
>
>> Robert Hood's Nighttime World albums
>> Anything/everything by the Three Chairs
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:54 AM Aidan O'Doherty
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey Phil,
>> >
>> > Glad you mentioned the Check One CD, used to have it, gave a loan of it
>> to someone, never got it back ☹️. I listened to that constantly. I'd say it
>> was a commercial disaster, but the music on there highlighted the links
>> between jazz and techno.
>> >
>> > And some of the most sublime techno, Nuron 'Eau Rouge', Silent Phase
>> 'Meditative Fusion', Jedi Knights 'Solina', 69 'Microlvr'. Mein Gott, it
>> brings a tear to the eye.
>> >
>> > The follow-up, which I still have, Synthesis, is no way as good.
>> >
>> > Also, I would mention Nu Era - that's jazz techno right there.
>> >
>> > But then I view Surgeon as Bohannon on steroids. I'm connecting dots
>> that may not be there.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Aidan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon 22 Oct 2018, 07:50 Philip McGarva, 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hey Matt & others
>> >>
>> >> Others have tried and failed to bring 'jazz' and 'techno' together
>> >> before but there have been some noteable successes.
>> >>
>> >> Innerzone Orchestra 'Programmed'
>> >> Kirk Degiorgio 'Check One' mix CD and 'Amalia's Mode' from 'Planetary
>> >> Folklore'
>> >> Kenny Larkin 'My Reflection' from 'The Narcissist' (the drums oh my)
>> >> Ian O'Brien 'Desert Scores'
>> >> Various Artists 'Elements of and Experiments with Sound' (insane
>> >> creativity and asymmetrical arrangements)
>> >> Theo Parrish 'Love is War for Miles' from 'First Floor'
>> >>
>> >> Don't worry too much about tasteful ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Philski
>> >>
>>
>

Re: Jazz 'n' techno

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Hey Phil,

Glad you mentioned the Check One CD, used to have it, gave a loan of it to
someone, never got it back ☹️. I listened to that constantly. I'd say it
was a commercial disaster, but the music on there highlighted the links
between jazz and techno.

And some of the most sublime techno, Nuron 'Eau Rouge', Silent Phase
'Meditative Fusion', Jedi Knights 'Solina', 69 'Microlvr'. Mein Gott, it
brings a tear to the eye.

The follow-up, which I still have, Synthesis, is no way as good.

Also, I would mention Nu Era - that's jazz techno right there.

But then I view Surgeon as Bohannon on steroids. I'm connecting dots that
may not be there.

Thanks,
Aidan




On Mon 22 Oct 2018, 07:50 Philip McGarva,  wrote:

> Hey Matt & others
>
> Others have tried and failed to bring 'jazz' and 'techno' together
> before but there have been some noteable successes.
>
> Innerzone Orchestra 'Programmed'
> Kirk Degiorgio 'Check One' mix CD and 'Amalia's Mode' from 'Planetary
> Folklore'
> Kenny Larkin 'My Reflection' from 'The Narcissist' (the drums oh my)
> Ian O'Brien 'Desert Scores'
> Various Artists 'Elements of and Experiments with Sound' (insane
> creativity and asymmetrical arrangements)
> Theo Parrish 'Love is War for Miles' from 'First Floor'
>
> Don't worry too much about tasteful ;-)
>
> Philski
>
>

Re: New subscribers?

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Bloody hell, what's with all the traffic? You wait ages on a bus, then all
of a sudden loads of 313s arrive!

Welcome aboard, Matt Deegan. This list has been a desert of discourse for a
very long time, until the last few days.

My name is Aidan O'Doherty, from Dublin, Ireland. I am simply an electronic
music fan, an erstwhile record collector (used to have an extensive
collection, mostly sold) and hobbyist DJ who loves a lot of techno/house
music that has and still comes out of Detroit or is clearly inspired by the
city.

I have been on this list for 18 or 19 years and have never unsubscribed
despite the serious drought in content over the last few years.

I am usually a lurker, therefore not aiding with content, but did inspire a
poll years ago (top five Detroit tracks) that Delsin's Marsel van der
Wielen put on the NoMoreWords site (everyone's individual choices were kept
there), which is gone now, or rather, transformed.

Most of the communications on the list are civil (not always in the past),
don't remember much in the way of racism, but my memory could be selective.
Denise, feel free to call me a potato-eating, alcoholic Paddy anytime you
want, I won't be offended, because it's all true.

Glad to see names popping up again that I haven't heard from in ages.

Yours in music,
Aidan



On Sat 20 Oct 2018, 13:02 ,  wrote:

> Introductions.
>
> I’m Denise Dalphond. I wrote my dissertation on Detroit techno and house
> music in 2014 after spending three years doing research and conducting
> interviews with techno kings and queens in Detroit. I write about music and
> activism at schoolcraftwax.work. I’ve published a lot about Detroit
> electronic music. My CV is on my website.
>
> In 2006, I organized and led the Roots of Techno conference at Indiana
> University. Panelists were Theo Parrish, Terrence Parker, Rick Wilhite,
> Marcellus Pittman, Minx, Mike Clark, Cornelius Harris, and two rad people
> from the Detroit Historical Museum.
>
> The Archives of African American Music and Culture at Indiana University
> is where the video recordings of the conference are housed, as well as my
> research materials and interview recordings.
>
> I was co-founder if the Detroit Sound Conservancy with Carleton Gholz.
> Together, we hosted educational tours of Submerge, created the Dan Sicko
> scholarship for new Detroit journalists, and made plans for cultural
> preservation in Detroit music culture.
>
> I often make sure no one is being racist, but that’s been near impossible
> on this listserv. They think I’ll stop.
>
> I don’t make music because my time is full with my three kids and
> everything else. I’m not a DJ because I would forget and start dancing and
> make the needle jump. I do want to play on a modular synth someday.
>
> Thanks for joining this listserv!
> Denise Dalphond
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 20, 2018, at 07:38, Matt Deegan  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> With that in mind I reckon I should introduce myself.
>
> My name is Matt Deegan and I'm an electronic music producer from the UK
> with a focus on techno. I've been involved in music in various forms over
> the years starting as a jazz double bassist and more recently moving to
> techno, using analogue electronic gear to produce on. I specialise in
> improvised electronic music trying hard to tastefully fuse elements of jazz
> into my sound.
>
> I've become interested in the origins of techno and so started reading
> books on and around the subject, and through that reading I found
> Hyperreal. I think there is a large proportion of techno fans who have no
> idea where or how it started, or are misinformed. I was definitely one of
> them, and, although I still have a lot to learn, I now feel I have some
> grounding in how it all began. I'm really interested in learning more and
> this feels like a decent place to do it so. Any resources people can
> recommend will be greatly appreciated!
>
> As I said I am interested in understanding the origins of the music, but
> at the same time I am also interested in supporting musicians trying to
> push the boundaries of the genre. I am a schooled jazz musician and
> composer and, although I am passionate about the music, I'm still trying to
> wrap my head around exactly why I love it so much. There is something
> fundamental within it I can't quite put my finger on which intrigues me.
> Before I started reading about techno's history I though my musical journey
> was unusual, but have since realised it isn't as unusual as I thought. This
> realisation has helped me focus my sound and produce the work I'm most
> proud of, which proves to me understanding the history of the music is
> extremely important.
>
> I could probably ramble on all day on the subject, but I'll leave it
> there. There are

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

[Aidan O'Doherty]

It was DJ Moxie who provided the narration. White and English.

On Thu 18 Oct 2018, 19:37 Shaun Fogarty,  wrote:

> What a fantastic discussion. I am inspired to spin some Drexciya later
> when I get to sit down.  Maybe I’ll try to think more deeply about the
> context of the music.
>
> Cheers,
> Shaun (England)
>
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 at 19:28, David A. Powers  wrote:
>
>> 1. Stealing by RA is terrible. Remember that along with the fact of black
>> innovators not getting credit, there is an even more common story of
>> exploitation in the music industry: musicians and creators who get ripped
>> off, whether it's theft by a manager, record labels stealing, or this
>> current example. This kind of exploitation goes on all the time, and I do
>> believe musicians, writers, and artists, need to work to take whatever
>> steps they can to stop such theft. Let me tell you, I lived in the D, if
>> someone steals from you there, they better be prepared to get their ass
>> beat. I'm just saying...
>>
>> 2. It's racist to make assumptions about race and cultural background
>> based on someone's accent.
>>
>> 3. All civilized societies to this day, use slave labor in some forms. In
>> the global economy, slavery is simply pushed to the margins: slaves still
>> work in mines to get stuff that goes into our high tech gadgets. As long as
>> civilization uses slaves, there are going to be ideologies that justify the
>> exploitation. US racism is rooted in the history of slavery, but also in
>> the economic competition between north and south, and the fact that the
>> industrialized north didn't need slave labor because it had found a more
>> efficient way to exploit human labor.
>>
>> 4. The meaning of work, slavery, and exploitation is going to change in a
>> society run by machines.
>>
>> And #4 is why Drexciya and techno are relevant--we live in a society of
>> machines, and slave labor is embedded in the very machines we use to
>> communicate with each other and to create techno music.
>>
>> Drexciya's music reflects the experience of the people who made it,
>> including being black, growing up in Detroit, the history of US slavery and
>> racism, etc. But SLAVERY is not a "black issue" it's a human issue, which
>> is explored from a particular viewpoint rooted in a particular cultural
>> experience.
>>
>> Music is not ABOUT ideas. Music is a living experience that cannot be put
>> into words.
>> If it could be put into words, then the music would actually be redundant!
>> If you want ideas, read a book.
>> The experience of listening to a Drexciya record is totally different
>> than talking about it.
>> Nothing you could say about a Drexciya record, would exhaust the
>> potential wealth of meanings and experience that the record contains.
>> Art is open ended, that's what makes it art and not propaganda...
>>
>>
>> ~David
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:52 PM Steven Robertson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm all for positive discrimination. In order to achieve any sense of
>>> equality, it has to be done. It's the way to correct things.
>>>
>>> RA is a London-based website so far as I know. London is an
>>> international city whose residents are less racist than average. It seems
>>> that the most racist parts of the world are the parts with the least amount
>>> of diversity. This obviously because when you live and work with people
>>> from all over the world you see them as human beings. The narrator could be
>>> black, but from London.
>>>
>>> Not giving credit, clearly is unprofessional. The accent of the
>>> narrator, I don't think is a problem. I'd love to see and hear more talk of
>>> Detroit music from Detroiters, and for Drexciya specifically, well - an
>>> African accent could be perfect.
>>>
>>> I do wonder if race and racism entirely an artificial idea, that it is
>>> really down to a tribalism. It's something I think is often used to
>>> manipulate people in times of war (or conquest), and to sow division. Isn't
>>> race more a colonial idea, to justify the theft of land from its native
>>> people? These days we should know that we're all the same race, and that
>>> there are so many colours. Nobody is simply white or black. There is no
>>> black or white. Except, where positive discrimination is due.
>>>
>>> I'm lucky never to have experienced racial discrimination. I've rarely
>>> seen any racism, and certainly less as time goes by. However, things could
>>> change, but I'm thankful to live somewhere there is very little of this,
>>> with respect to people from many places. Things have been sliding backwards
>>> though, throughout Europe. Still, Europeans are not responsible for racism
>>> in the US. There are people that are responsible, and you'll find them in
>>> positions of power, using it as a tool, a method of control. IMHO.
>>>
>>> I'd be really disappointed if the music was _all_ about race and racism.
>>> I don't think that's a fair representation.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2018, at 5:25 PM, 

Spirit of Detroit from Kevin L. Mitchell

[Aidan O'Doherty]

http://kevinlmitchell.bandcamp.com/album/spirit-of-detroit

Is this Gerald Mitchell's brother, any relation?

Thanks,
Aidan

Re: Beyond the sixth/seventh/eight wave?

[Aidan O'Doherty]

I would have put excellent above great

On 18 Dec 2017 08:37, "Placid"  wrote:

> Is great better or worse than excellent ?
>
> > On 18 Dec 2017, at 08:18, Fred Heutte  wrote:
> >
> > btw big shout out to Rush Hour -- I was in their expanded store a month
> > ago, they moved down the street and it has gone from excellent to great
> : )
> >
> > fh
> >
> > -
> >> anyone still using Last.FM since they overhauled the site? got a couple
> >> friends that still swear by it and are trying to talk me into scrobbling
> >> plays againnot so sure i'm sold. been doing just fine without it
> >> honestly :P
> >>
> >> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 9:43 AM, the Beauty and Belief Society <
> >> thequietoverh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In all honesty Spotify gives me some pretty accurate suggestions.
> >>>
> >>> On Nov 27, 2017 3:14 AM, <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I for one love discogs in all its imperfection. The new release
> listings
> >>> for artists in yr collection is nice when you've been away for a while.
> >>>
> >>> Besides 'discover function' algorithms always vary, juno's always
> feels a
> >>> bit weak but Rushhour and Hhv.de are good.
> >>>
> >>> Plus its nice to surf outta discogs too, maybe some like myspace
> sprawl or
> >>> something, the whole web should be branching + connecting..
> >>>
> >>> No pleasing some people. ;-P
> >>>
> >>> C
> >>>
> >>>
>  On 2017-11-03 22:26, Ronny Pries wrote:
> 
>  Hm, yeah - bit too tedious to dig for those. I just wanna browse e.g.
>  labels by year + genre…
> 
>  Do we know anyone at discogs one could talk to? And isn’t the
>  database open for third parties? Maybe something like that already
>  exists somewhere. hmhmhm.
> 
>  Am 03.11.2017 um 19:24 schrieb John Sokolowski
> > :
> >
> > Imagine the potential of discogs IF it had a reasonable discovery
> 
> >>> function... meh!
> >
> > So true. I find the lists some users make of 'favorite artists,
> > labels, best of 2017, etc' to somewhat helpful in that regard.
> >
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>

UR Bandcamp

[Aidan O'Doherty]

There were communications about UR releasing their backcatalogue digitally
on Bandcamp - does anyone know if there has been further progress on this?
There is UR Bandcamp page but nothing on it as of yet.

Thsnks,
Aidan

Re: Female Producers

[Aidan O'Doherty]

https://www.discogs.com/Langer-Elements/release/3283866

my favourite producer

On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 8:04 PM, ja...@iridite.com <ja...@iridite.com>
wrote:

> Complaining about the English, Kent, not the British :)
>
> On 20 August 2017 at 18:23, kent williams <chaircrus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just what you imagine.  I don't find an official discussion of it, but
>> looking at urban dictionary it's a word popular in Ireland, supposedly
>> originating in Cork.  Which would fit with Aidan who is as Irish as a
>> Leprechaun eating Lucky Charms while complaining about the British.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 12:16 PM Peter Bense <textur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What does... "a langer" mean?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Aidan O'Doherty <
>>> aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I couldn't give a monkeys about whether a dj or producer has a langer
>>>> or not. I just want good music. Them being male or female doesn't enhance
>>>> it either way.
>>>>
>>>> On 20 Aug 2017 17:58, <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But seriously tho
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenifa and Cooly G at least appear to have more 'wonk' in their funk.
>>>>> Is this some m/f rhythm thing?
>>>>>
>>>>> C
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17 Aug 2017, at 10:38, 3...@coke-smyth.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cooly G
>>>>>>>> DJ Genesis
>>>>>>>> Jenifa Mananja
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone else to be scoping...?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>

Re: Female Producers

[Aidan O'Doherty]

https://www.discogs.com/Langer-Elements/release/3283866

The track System is a winner, by Langer.

On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 6:51 PM, Aidan O'Doherty <aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Word originates in Cork, as Kent rightly points out. Also can be applied
> to people who are total idiots. But I never use it in that sense. I have
> culturally misappropriated from Cork people and adapted it for my own use
> (it fits). Should have just written male appendage. Or penis. Or lad, as
> in: 'his lad was hanging out of his trousers'.
>
> NB: I've never had a bowl of Lucky Charms. Never.
>
> BTW:
>
> Shanti Celeste and Steffi are two mega producers and djs.
>
>
>
>
> On 20 Aug 2017 18:29, "Peter Bense" <textur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I didn't even guess its meaning by inference.  Took me looking at the gd
> urbandictionary page to now get it.
>
> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 10:23 AM, kent williams <chaircrus...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Just what you imagine.  I don't find an official discussion of it, but
>> looking at urban dictionary it's a word popular in Ireland, supposedly
>> originating in Cork.  Which would fit with Aidan who is as Irish as a
>> Leprechaun eating Lucky Charms while complaining about the British.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 12:16 PM Peter Bense <textur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What does... "a langer" mean?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Aidan O'Doherty <
>>> aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I couldn't give a monkeys about whether a dj or producer has a langer
>>>> or not. I just want good music. Them being male or female doesn't enhance
>>>> it either way.
>>>>
>>>> On 20 Aug 2017 17:58, <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But seriously tho
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenifa and Cooly G at least appear to have more 'wonk' in their funk.
>>>>> Is this some m/f rhythm thing?
>>>>>
>>>>> C
>>>>
>>>>
>
>

Re: Female Producers

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Word originates in Cork, as Kent rightly points out. Also can be applied to
people who are total idiots. But I never use it in that sense. I have
culturally misappropriated from Cork people and adapted it for my own use
(it fits). Should have just written male appendage. Or penis. Or lad, as
in: 'his lad was hanging out of his trousers'.

NB: I've never had a bowl of Lucky Charms. Never.

BTW:

Shanti Celeste and Steffi are two mega producers and djs.




On 20 Aug 2017 18:29, "Peter Bense" <textur...@gmail.com> wrote:

I didn't even guess its meaning by inference.  Took me looking at the gd
urbandictionary page to now get it.

On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 10:23 AM, kent williams <chaircrus...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Just what you imagine.  I don't find an official discussion of it, but
> looking at urban dictionary it's a word popular in Ireland, supposedly
> originating in Cork.  Which would fit with Aidan who is as Irish as a
> Leprechaun eating Lucky Charms while complaining about the British.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 12:16 PM Peter Bense <textur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What does... "a langer" mean?
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Aidan O'Doherty <
>> aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I couldn't give a monkeys about whether a dj or producer has a langer or
>>> not. I just want good music. Them being male or female doesn't enhance it
>>> either way.
>>>
>>> On 20 Aug 2017 17:58, <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> But seriously tho
>>>>
>>>> Jenifa and Cooly G at least appear to have more 'wonk' in their funk.
>>>> Is this some m/f rhythm thing?
>>>>
>>>> C
>>>
>>>

Re: Female Producers

[Aidan O'Doherty]

I couldn't give a monkeys about whether a dj or producer has a langer or
not. I just want good music. Them being male or female doesn't enhance it
either way.

On 20 Aug 2017 17:58, <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:

> But seriously tho
>
> Jenifa and Cooly G at least appear to have more 'wonk' in their funk. Is
> this some m/f rhythm thing?
>
> C
>
> On 17 Aug 2017, at 10:38, 3...@coke-smyth.net wrote:

 Cooly G
 DJ Genesis
 Jenifa Mananja

 Anyone else to be scoping...?

 cheers

 C

>>>
>

Re: Female Producers

[Aidan O'Doherty]

https://www.discogs.com/artist/26587-Americhord



On 17 Aug 2017 20:38, wrote:

> Gonna throw in Americhord.
>
> On 17 Aug 2017 20:25, "Marsel van der Wielen" 
> wrote:
>
>> was Karen Gwyer already mentioned
>>
>> Op 17-Aug-17 om 20:54 schreef Suzanne Heinrichs:
>>
>> Laurel Halo (and not 313 but Nadia Struiwigh -- love the latest on CPU).
>> Also +1 for Aurora Halal.
>>
>> Suzanne
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:44 AM, <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I have DJ Shiva on the mp3 drive.
>>>
>>> B-)
>>>
>>> Prefer Claude Young tho!
>>>
>>> C
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2017-08-17 14:48, DJ Shiva wrote:
>>>
 Ana Kristenson, Avalon Emerson, Aurora Halal, Paula Temple, Esther
 Duijn, Umfang, Eris Drew (more house, but fantastic DJ & live act),
 Octo Octa, CL aka Ciel, Steffi, Rroxymore, Ellen Alien, CMD, Doc
 Sleep, Experimental Housewife, oh and myself (DJ Shiva/ Noncompliant).


 Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

 Lisa
 http://www.noncompliantmusic.com
 http://www.soundcloud.com/djshiva
 
 "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet
 day, I can hear her breathing." - Arundhati Roy
 On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 5:38 AM, <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:

 Cooly G
> DJ Genesis
> Jenifa Mananja
>
> Anyone else to be scoping...?
>
> cheers
>
> C
>

>>>
>>
>>

Re: Female Producers

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Gonna throw in Americhord.

On 17 Aug 2017 20:25, "Marsel van der Wielen" 
wrote:

> was Karen Gwyer already mentioned
>
> Op 17-Aug-17 om 20:54 schreef Suzanne Heinrichs:
>
> Laurel Halo (and not 313 but Nadia Struiwigh -- love the latest on CPU).
> Also +1 for Aurora Halal.
>
> Suzanne
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:44 AM, <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I have DJ Shiva on the mp3 drive.
>>
>> B-)
>>
>> Prefer Claude Young tho!
>>
>> C
>>
>>
>> On 2017-08-17 14:48, DJ Shiva wrote:
>>
>>> Ana Kristenson, Avalon Emerson, Aurora Halal, Paula Temple, Esther
>>> Duijn, Umfang, Eris Drew (more house, but fantastic DJ & live act),
>>> Octo Octa, CL aka Ciel, Steffi, Rroxymore, Ellen Alien, CMD, Doc
>>> Sleep, Experimental Housewife, oh and myself (DJ Shiva/ Noncompliant).
>>>
>>>
>>> Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
>>>
>>> Lisa
>>> http://www.noncompliantmusic.com
>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/djshiva
>>> 
>>> "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet
>>> day, I can hear her breathing." - Arundhati Roy
>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 5:38 AM, <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Cooly G
 DJ Genesis
 Jenifa Mananja

 Anyone else to be scoping...?

 cheers

 C

>>>
>>
>
>

First 8 Years Of D1 - Back to Back DJ set from Active Service Unit [Eamonn Doyle and Scott Logan] - SoundCloud

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Listen to First 8 Years Of D1 - Back to Back DJ set from Active Service
Unit [Eamonn Doyle and Scott Logan] by D1Recordings #np on #SoundCloud
https://soundcloud.com/d1-recordings/first-8-years-of-d1-back-to-back-dj-set-from-active-service-unit-eamonn-doyle-and-scott-logan

Just to show people on the list who don't know how good a label D1 is - and
how good a dj Eamonn is.

Re: A: Jacktone Radio guest mix

[Aidan O'Doherty]

I preferred it when they were all just faceless techno bastards.

Fatima Yamaha always sounded like a made-up moniker - and not offensive. A
town in Portugal/an Arabic name mixed with a Japanese motorcycle company?

Naive of me, but what I think is great about this music is that it joins
people from very different backgrounds into a shared culture - we are all
on the same team,  no?

On 17 Sep 2016 20:28, "christiaan"  wrote:

> dicks and wankers. they kind of go hand in hand, don’t they?
>
>
> On 17 Sep 2016, at 20:40, Joe Marougi  wrote:
>
> So when is it ok to misrepresent yourself or juice off another's persona?
> Where is the line that separates us being dicks to call it out them being
> douches for doing it?
>
> Examples that come to mind:
> Moodymanc
> Detroit Swindle
> What Oliver $ did
> Detroit Soul
> The vocal sample in Los Picaros by Fabrice Lig
>
> Sent from my iPhone, may include typoes.
>
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Eamonn Doyle  wrote:
>
>
> I can't think of any good reason for a European male to otherise
> themselves and present as a minority woman.  Why? This is exoticizing the
> other, plain and simple.
>
>
>
> What about an African male / South American male ? Japanese male ? He is
> Dutch - Surinamese as it happens.  A minority woman ? Where ? In whose eyes
> ?
>
> Eamonn / D1
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> There is already a dearth of actual women and minorities in the music
> game, the last thing we need is dudes pretending to be them.  I'm sure he's
> a super nice guy, but it's beside the point.
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Eamonn Doyle  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 17 Sep 2016, at 16:55, Arturo Lopez 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > It's my understanding this is a Dutch male recording as a woman?,
>> bringing in orientalist nonsense and 'exotic' flavorings for no reason.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> How do you know it was for no reason ?
>>
>> He’s not a wanker actually.
>>
>> FYI -  'What’s a girl to do' was originally released by us on D1
>> Recordings in 2004.
>>
>> Eamonn / D1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: 4x new Transmat EPs

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Am I mad or is their no mention of this new release from 7th City on
Discogs?

Both of the above statements could be true. Or false.
On 7 Jan 2016 17:04, "jwan allen"  wrote:

> Two things regarding the 7th City record.
>
> 1) Nice to see the old Logo:)
>
> 2) Framework by Altitude (aka Matt Thibideau)  was originally released
> on Blue Recordings out of Toronto, what a lovely tune.
>
>
> Jwan
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Sokolowski
>  wrote:
> > It is a two-tracker with Cab Drivers on one side and Altitude on the
> other.
> > One of the two is actually a re-release from another label. I didn't know
> > 7th City was in the re-release business but in Dan Bell I trust. :) It
> came
> > out last month right before the holidays.
> >
> > 
> > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 00:21:29 +
> > Subject: Re: 4x new Transmat EPs
> > From: ja...@iridite.com
> > To: jrsokolow...@hotmail.com
> > CC: booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com; jwan.al...@gmail.com;
> > pwac...@gmail.com; 313@hyperreal.org; mar...@nomorewords.net
> >
> >
> > What's the 7th City one John?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6 January 2016 at 15:41, John Sokolowski 
> > wrote:
> >
> > What is even more incredible is that the tracks on new Kyle Hall album
> are
> > all older cuts from his archives. All were recorded around the time he
> > launched his label, I believe.
> >
> > I have really been digging the new DeepChord double CD on Soma, and on
> the
> > bouncier side, the new one on 7th City.
> >
> >
> > 
> > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 15:53:17 +0100
> > Subject: Re: 4x new Transmat EPs
> > From: booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com
> > To: jwan.al...@gmail.com
> > CC: ja...@iridite.com; pwac...@gmail.com; 313@hyperreal.org;
> > mar...@nomorewords.net
> >
> >
> > kyle for such a young head shows incredible maturity on this album .
> great
> > stuff !
> >
> > On 6 January 2016 at 15:47, jwan allen  wrote:
> >
> > Also on the new music front.
> >
> > The latest Kyle Hall, two thumbs up. While I don't own it, I've had to
> > opportunity to get an extended preview and it's giving me Hanna /
> > Warren Harris vibes and that's never a bad thing.
> >
> >
> > Reissue front. The Fingers Inc. album.
> >
> > The packaging on each is also top notch. I'm not afraid to admit it, I
> > enjoy pretty things. :)
> >
> >
> > Jwan
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 3:20 AM, ja...@iridite.com 
> wrote:
> >> I'm going to revisit the Model 500 album todayI think I was a bit
> >> scarred after hearing the dubstep/metal guitar solo track on it.
> >>
> >> On 5 January 2016 at 22:47, Patrick Wacher  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I wasn't really grabbed by any of the new Transmat snippets, might
> need a
> >>> few listens. As Aidan said, I really wanted to like it, but it's not
> >>> quite
> >>> doing it for me.
> >>>
> >>> Still yet to hear the Model 500 album, keen to check it out though.
> >>>
> >>> Happy New Year all, hope to see some more discussion on the list this
> >>> year
> >>> ;)
> >>>
> >>> - Patrick.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:18 PM, ja...@iridite.com 
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  Happy New Year everyone!
> 
>  Hope Derrick has got someone with a clue doing the A this time
> around?
>  Have you heard the clips Marsel?
> 
>  cheers
> 
>  Jason
> 
>  On 5 January 2016 at 08:40, Marsel van der Wielen
>   wrote:
> >
> > hey techno daddies (and mums?)
> >
> > as this list seems still alive after 22 years -
> > here's what might sound as a very classic post -
> >
> > but it's really true there are for new Transmat EPs coming
> > :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.rushhour.nl/distribution_label.php?idxLabel=254=1
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Technoir Audio
> > http://www.technoiraudio.com
> > "dealing with your imperfect world"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Lerato Khathi
> > http://uzurirecordings.com
> > http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com
> > http://soundcloud.com/uzuri
> > Skype : Lakuti
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Technoir Audio
> http://www.technoiraudio.com
> "dealing with your imperfect world"
>

Re: 4x new Transmat EPs

[Aidan O'Doherty]

ah hell, just realised I put in 'their' instead of 'there' in last mail.
Hangs head in shame.

https://clone.nl/item38119.html

must give clips a listen.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Marsel van der Wielen <
mar...@nomorewords.net> wrote:

> I remember reading somewhere there's a new upcoming..
>
> Op 07-Jan-16 om 22:10 schreef ja...@iridite.com:
>
> I've not seen it on any lists or heard any mention of it either
>
> On 7 January 2016 at 21:09, Aidan O'Doherty <aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Am I mad or is their no mention of this new release from 7th City on
>> Discogs?
>>
>> Both of the above statements could be true. Or false.
>> On 7 Jan 2016 17:04, "jwan allen" <jwan.al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Two things regarding the 7th City record.
>>>
>>> 1) Nice to see the old Logo:)
>>>
>>> 2) Framework by Altitude (aka Matt Thibideau)  was originally released
>>> on Blue Recordings out of Toronto, what a lovely tune.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jwan
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Sokolowski
>>> <jrsokolow...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> > It is a two-tracker with Cab Drivers on one side and Altitude on the
>>> other.
>>> > One of the two is actually a re-release from another label. I didn't
>>> know
>>> > 7th City was in the re-release business but in Dan Bell I trust. :) It
>>> came
>>> > out last month right before the holidays.
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 00:21:29 +
>>> > Subject: Re: 4x new Transmat EPs
>>> > From: ja...@iridite.com
>>> > To: jrsokolow...@hotmail.com
>>> > CC: booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com;
>>> jwan.al...@gmail.com;
>>> > pwac...@gmail.com; 313@hyperreal.org; mar...@nomorewords.net
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > What's the 7th City one John?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 6 January 2016 at 15:41, John Sokolowski <jrsokolow...@hotmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > What is even more incredible is that the tracks on new Kyle Hall album
>>> are
>>> > all older cuts from his archives. All were recorded around the time he
>>> > launched his label, I believe.
>>> >
>>> > I have really been digging the new DeepChord double CD on Soma, and on
>>> the
>>> > bouncier side, the new one on 7th City.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 15:53:17 +0100
>>> > Subject: Re: 4x new Transmat EPs
>>> > From: booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com
>>> > To: jwan.al...@gmail.com
>>> > CC: ja...@iridite.com; pwac...@gmail.com; 313@hyperreal.org;
>>> > mar...@nomorewords.net
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > kyle for such a young head shows incredible maturity on this album .
>>> great
>>> > stuff !
>>> >
>>> > On 6 January 2016 at 15:47, jwan allen < <jwan.al...@gmail.com>
>>> jwan.al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Also on the new music front.
>>> >
>>> > The latest Kyle Hall, two thumbs up. While I don't own it, I've had to
>>> > opportunity to get an extended preview and it's giving me Hanna /
>>> > Warren Harris vibes and that's never a bad thing.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Reissue front. The Fingers Inc. album.
>>> >
>>> > The packaging on each is also top notch. I'm not afraid to admit it, I
>>> > enjoy pretty things. :)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Jwan
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 3:20 AM, <ja...@iridite.com>ja...@iridite.com <
>>> ja...@iridite.com> wrote:
>>> >> I'm going to revisit the Model 500 album todayI think I was a bit
>>> >> scarred after hearing the dubstep/metal guitar solo track on it.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 5 January 2016 at 22:47, Patrick Wacher <pwac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I wasn't really grabbed by any of the new Transmat snippets, might
>>> need a
>>> >>> few listens. As Aidan said, I really wanted to like it, but it's not
>>> >>> quite
>>> >>> doing it for me.
>>> >>>

Re: 4x new Transmat EPs

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Happy New Year to one and all! I gave a quick listen to the clips on Rush
Hour. It's mostly that melodic, middle-of-the-road techno/house that you
associate with the relaunched Transmat. I think Sistrum and Aesthetic Audio
do a much better job with similar kind of material. I would like to give it
them a proper listen, though. Want to like them!
On 5 Jan 2016 10:18, "ja...@iridite.com"  wrote:

> Happy New Year everyone!
>
> Hope Derrick has got someone with a clue doing the A this time around?
> Have you heard the clips Marsel?
>
> cheers
>
> Jason
>
> On 5 January 2016 at 08:40, Marsel van der Wielen 
> wrote:
>
>> hey techno daddies (and mums?)
>>
>> as this list seems still alive after 22 years -
>> here's what might sound as a very classic post -
>>
>> but it's really true there are for new Transmat EPs coming
>> :-)
>>
>>
>> http://www.rushhour.nl/distribution_label.php?idxLabel=254=1
>>
>
>

Re: Minto George in the mix

[Aidan O'Doherty]

great news! what a label.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Andrew Duke andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com
wrote:

 https://soundcloud.com/andrewdukecognitionaudio/2913-andrew-duke-in-the-mix


 Down Low Music is being relaunched! So stoked. Here's a mix Minto George
 did for the show back in 2008 that still sounds fresh.
 Available to download or stream.

 Andrew


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Re: new Model 500 album

[Aidan O'Doherty]

i would say more 'midde-aged' - looking forward to checking this out!

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Marsel van der Wielen 
mar...@nomorewords.net wrote:

 i hope this is still the old men detroit techno list?

 sound clips for new Model 500 album up
 http://www.rushhour.nl/store_detailed.php?item=80601

Re: New Metroplex on Pre-order!

[Aidan O'Doherty]

glad to see aubrey back on the scene

https://soundcloud.com/aubreysolidgroove/aubrey-2014





On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Andrew Duke andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 EP is from Plural; one of the tracks is remixed by Aubrey.


 On Friday, September 26, 2014, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Aubrey?

 2014-09-25 14:50 GMT+02:00 Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com:

 Isn't Submerge handling the distribution anymore?

 Apart from new Metroplex records, I desperately need a new shirt!
 —
 Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox


 On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 5:41 AM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey all:

 There's a new metroplex record by Plural (aka James Johnson) called
 Shifting Forward.

 I've heard it, think it's fantastic...and possibly the best Metroplex
 release in quite some time.  Thoughts?

  http://www.rushhour.nl/distribution_detailed.php?item=75022

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Re: (313) Re:Radio UR

[Aidan O'Doherty]

nathan, the track at 8.34 is a fabrice lig number under his sould designer
alias.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAnHQpyX5SU



On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 6:10 AM, Nathan Goode nathg...@tpg.com.au wrote:

 Talking of Suburban Knight I came across this mix on YouTube
 http://youtu.be/Ud41C8Mhml0
 I remember recording the audio from the groovetech site but didn't get all
 of it, so glad I found it. So many great tracks on here. There are a couple
 I don't know which might get me thrown off 313 ;-) but I'd be grateful if
 anyone could tell me what is playing at 8.39 (sounds very Red Planet/UR)and
 also starting at 1.39.50. I'm sure they are easy for you knowledgable folk.

 Cheers

 Nath

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 4 Jan 2014, at 8:51 am, edward thompson ed612...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Radio UR……
 Far from sold on this so far…..
 Some mixes have been great but some mixes have been very average. Atleast
 2 i can remember sounded like they were mixed by guys who had only had
 decks for a few years. Basically poor mixing.
 When i think of UR mixes i think of the highest standard of DJing
 possible….ie, DJ Rolando Aztec Mystic, DJ Rolando Vibrations, DJ Dex
 Invisible Showcases, DJ Skurge Radio UR, Suburban knight nocturbulus
 behaviour UR mix, S2, Buzz G, DJ 3000, Stingray, Mark Flash,  etc etc
 The 2 most recent mixes that are UR standard for me-
 DJ Skurge UR Electro Mix 2013
 https://soundcloud.com/ed612313/dj-skurge-ur-electro-mix-2013

 DJ Nomadico (DJ Dex) (UR) - Hard, Dark  Strong Mix
 https://soundcloud.com/ed612313/dj-nomadico-dj-dex-ur-hard

 I really enjoyed Ray 7's Radio UR Midtown 1 Mix (
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmG6mW46pfclist=LLO5TRdcyssGNnmctaBqw-rwindex=2)
 but then found 2 (
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7orIH8SurfElist=LLO5TRdcyssGNnmctaBqw-rwindex=1)
 virtually a waste of time due to the POOR sound quality...

 I don't know….Maybe I'm just getting old and grumpy….

 Ed612313




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 Topics (messages 104803 through 104804)

 Happy New Year; last show for 2013: #2728
 104803 by: Andrew Duke

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 104804 by: Jeff Davis

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 *Subject: **Happy New Year; last show for 2013: #2728*
 *Date: *1 January 2014 7:04:11 AM AEDT
 *To: *list 313 313@hyperreal.org, list idm i...@hyperreal.org


 Happy New Year, everyone. Here's the tracklist
 and download/stream link for last show of 2013:

 Andrew Duke In The Mix (est. 1987) #2728 last show of 2013
 (free download) with full tracklisting:

 __ Scan 7 ID (Underground Resistance, Tresor, Cratesaverz)
 01 Aaron-Carl--The Power (Joe Babylon Roundabout db); Tribute (Roundabout
 Sounds 005)
 02 Model Human (Chase Smith, Phil Boyd, Karl O'Janpa)--Cruise Version;
 Cruise Control (Pittsburgh Tracks PGHTRX-004)
 03 Javier Orduna--DIY-02; Do It Yourself (Cuatro 045)
 04 Black Jack--It Hurts; Soul Expedition (Fathom Records)
 05 Rick Wade--The League; The Duke Of Detroit (Danzon DR0004)
 06 Chocky--How Long's A Piece Of String (Specter rx); The Supplier (Fluomo
 Limited FLTD004)
 __ Whim-ee ID (W-ee, Night Drive, Trojan House)
 07 Snuff Crew--Tearing Me Away ft Kim Ann Foxman; Behind The Masks (Bpitch
 Control; BPC274)
 08 Barce--Mellamp (unreleased)
 09 Chase Smith--Stay ft Karl O'Janpa  Lauren O'Janpa; 27 Summers/Stay
 (Argot 008)
 10 Hailey Sphynx--I Am Music (unreleased)
 11 Owen Jay  Melchior Sultana--Moog Mood; Crossover comp (Batti Batti
 BBR05)
 12 Anaxander--Donna; From The Dirty South...Of France (Love What You Feel
 LWYF-004)
 13 Trix--Oppression Of Another (Mandela tribute); Oppression Of Another
 (Kanzen KNZ038)
 14 Miguel Graca--Up To The Dub; Up To The Sky (Pronto Musique PR017)
 15 ASOK--Project Poltergeist; Poltergeist (MOS Deep 018)
 16 The Metro-Gnohm w/ Nagwoode--Thank You Love; Changing Colors (Gnohm
 Sounds)
 17 Rick Wilhite--Life Is A Minimal Circle; Mc Vs Son split w/ Tim
 McAllister (Stilove4music 038)
 18 Mod.Civil--808 Session Pt 1; Opto Watts (Ornaments ORN028)
 19 Raybone Bones--Kendal's Journey; Right Of Passage (Moods  Grooves
 MG-051)
 20 Hakim Murphy--Spanking Tables; Freeform Terraforming (III Rivers IIR-II)
 21 Johannes Volk--Steam; Genesis Tracks comp (Sistrum SIS022)
 22 Garnier (Laurent Garnier)--Bang (The Underground Doesn't Stop); AF 0490
 (Stillm037)
 23 Boo Williams--7 Days; Living Waters (Goldmin GMNV004)
 24 Khris ONeil--Crystal Countdown (unreleased)
 25 Hieroglyphic Being--Acid Rain Under The Stars (ext re-play); Acid Rain
 Under The Stars (Last Known Trajectory 1009)
 26 Bartellow--Fumm; Polyrhythmic Series #3 comp (SVS Records 003)
 27 Magic 

Re: (313) Party in Detroit (TV Lounge) this Saturday Roll Call?

[Aidan O'Doherty]

do a boiler room on it and broadcast it live on the net - some line-up
you have there.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks new
email address andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd be there in a heartbeat if I lived closer, but consider me there
 in spirit Saturday night.
 Andrew

 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey there,

 Just wanted to see if any of you are planning on attending our
 Connecting the Compass record release party this Saturday?

 Line up:
 Karizma
 Rick Wilhite
 Marcellus Pittman
 Norm Talley
 Bruce Bailey
 Sean Tate
 Jon Easley
 Yours Truly :-)

 Thanks,
 Joe



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Re: (313) releases of the year

[Aidan O'Doherty]

don't be sorry -  the more the merrier

and tracks there that i would never have thought of - including andres.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Paul Kendrick p...@dagmar-tara.com wrote:
 More than 5, sorry, but my fave records this year are;

 Andres- New For U- played everywhere but still excellent, when Andres played 
 it at the Berghain when I saw him there this year the place went off.

 The Sun God- Being Hieroglyphic

 Moodymann- Why do you feel- All 3 track are so so good

 Daphni-Jiaolong LP

 DJ Nature- return of the savage- Very Theo in places

 Vakula-No Music

 Bad News- Real Bad news

 Echo 106-Broken hi hat machine

 Echo 106- Winter Music

 PSYCHEMAGIK PRESENT - MAGIK CYRKLES- excellent comp

 -Original Message-
 From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 18 December 2012 13:44
 To: list 313
 Subject: (313) releases of the year

 so, what would people's top 5 be (actual detroit, detroit-influenced or just 
 plain good)?

 the new legowelt album on jack for daze sounds rather delectable.

Re: (313) releases of the year

[Aidan O'Doherty]

New for U is new to me - track of the year, though?

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 4:10 PM, John Sokolowski
jrsokolow...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Don't look now but New for U is RA's #1 track of 2012.

 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:04:28 +
 From: aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com
 To: p...@dagmar-tara.com
 CC: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) releases of the year


 don't be sorry - the more the merrier

 and tracks there that i would never have thought of - including andres.

 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Paul Kendrick p...@dagmar-tara.com
 wrote:
  More than 5, sorry, but my fave records this year are;
 
  Andres- New For U- played everywhere but still excellent, when Andres
  played it at the Berghain when I saw him there this year the place went 
  off.
 
  The Sun God- Being Hieroglyphic
 
  Moodymann- Why do you feel- All 3 track are so so good
 
  Daphni-Jiaolong LP
 
  DJ Nature- return of the savage- Very Theo in places
 
  Vakula-No Music
 
  Bad News- Real Bad news
 
  Echo 106-Broken hi hat machine
 
  Echo 106- Winter Music
 
  PSYCHEMAGIK PRESENT - MAGIK CYRKLES- excellent comp
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com]
  Sent: 18 December 2012 13:44
  To: list 313
  Subject: (313) releases of the year
 
  so, what would people's top 5 be (actual detroit, detroit-influenced or
  just plain good)?
 
  the new legowelt album on jack for daze sounds rather delectable.

Re: (313) Kraftwerk: Concerts next year

[Aidan O'Doherty]

i am probably gonna be shot down for this, but, havin' seen kraftwerk
'live' twice, i wouldn't lose any sleep about missin' them in concert.

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Matt Chester chesterm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any of you up for Depeche Mode instead?   It's cheaper and the website works
 fine ;)


 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com
 wrote:

 I'm more philosophical about it Paul ;-).

 Got more important things I want to worry about.

 I would have *liked* to go, but on a cost-benefit basis, I decided on
 balance to sack off efforts to spend that 60 quid.

 I'm sure the 'gigs' will be enjoyable for those who decided to persist,
 though.

 Ken



 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:p...@dagmar-tara.com]
 Sent: 13 December 2012 11:56
 To: Odeluga, Ken; Williams Graham G; 1-11
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) Kraftwerk: Concerts next year

 You not going Ken?

 Id have been up for going if I was able to go...its a great room for
 exhibitions, but it could have sound problems if not handled correctly and
 the Tate have failed at the first hurdle so I hope its not a sign of things
 to come.

 Nicholas Serota (Director of Tate) says it's not the first time the
 website has crashed from over demand, so he must have known there would be
 the same problem. So this leads me to think he doesn't care enough to sort
 out the problems and in turn couldn't care about the shows them self's and
 the sound bouncing around in that concrete room.


 -Original Message-
 From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com]
 Sent: 13 December 2012 11:43
 To: Paul Kendrick; Williams Graham G; 1-11
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) Kraftwerk: Concerts next year

 Some Bleep43 folk got tickets I think, Paul.



 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:p...@dagmar-tara.com]
 Sent: 13 December 2012 11:42
 To: Williams Graham G; 1-11
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) Kraftwerk: Concerts next year

 Hey,

 Did any of the UK peeps get tickets for the London Tate shows? From
 looking at forums it seems the Tate didn't handle the demand very well and
 their system crashed immediately. The web site said no in person sales and
 they were selling tickets over the counter too

 I can't go so didn't even bother but it seems like chaos, I hope this is
 not a sign of things to come and that the shows go off ok.



 -Original Message-
 From: Williams Graham G [mailto:graham.willi...@hpcds.com]
 Sent: 26 November 2012 22:24
 To: 1-11
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) Kraftwerk: Concerts next year

 Are there any original members still playing live or is just a cover band
 now?

 G

 Sent from my phone...



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Re: (313) RE: NYE

[Aidan O'Doherty]

fill us in - what makes it so good?

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Paul Kendrick p...@dagmar-tara.com wrote:
 I've still never made it to a World Unknown party...!

 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Bean [mailto:daniel.b...@bbc.co.uk]
 Sent: 06 December 2012 13:59
 To: Rob Taylor
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) RE: NYE

 Excellent!

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Taylor [mailto:barringtonphelo...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 06 December 2012 13:56
 To: Daniel Bean
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) RE: NYE

 Me too! Nice and intimate and sweaty!

 On 6 Dec 2012, at 13:27, Daniel Bean daniel.b...@bbc.co.uk wrote:

 I'm off to the World Unknown NYE party.

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:p...@dagmar-tara.com]
 Sent: 06 December 2012 13:18
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) NYE

 What are people up to on NYE, anyone going clubbing?

 London has Marcellus Pittman  Floating Points at Plastic People which will 
 be fun, Mike Huckaby  Kate Simko are at some warehouse in East London and 
 Robert Hood is playing live at Fabric.

 Even with all that happening I don't think I'll make it out clubbing to be 
 honest, Im leaning towards my local pub...



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Re: (313) Ask 313

[Aidan O'Doherty]

i picked up that record for a couple of euros in a second-hand bargain
bin years ago - not sure if i still have it. our belgian friend must
be just having a laugh. i think the read album is great. da breaks
would be my top track on it. great synth piano line on it, i think.
much check to see if i still have my copy!

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Paul Kendrick p...@dagmar-tara.com wrote:
 I didn't know Jamie Read had an album out on Fragmented, I really like the 
 L.H.A.S records, I must track that album down. Your post lead me to have a 
 look at his Discogs page and this price made me laugh;

 http://www.discogs.com/LHAS-Inc-The-Hevalo/master/365541



 -Original Message-
 From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 04 December 2012 10:59
 To: Paul Kendrick
 Cc: benny blanco(r); kent williams; list 313
 Subject: Re: (313) Ask 313

 a13 had some great stuff. john tejada has a great album on a13 - quadruple 
 vinyl - reminiscent of the stuff he put out on 7th city

 it always seems to be uk labels - so i will add another: fragmented

 http://www.discogs.com/label/Fragmented%20Records


 the jamie read (lhas) album on fragmented is a firm favourite of mine
 - again, don't think it got much in the way of props

 also great releases from paul mac, morgan geist, dan curtin, chris gray.



 On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Paul Kendrick p...@dagmar-tara.com wrote:
 A13 was owned by a friend of mine Eddie, who lived in Southend on Sea
 in the South of the UK, and the main route getting to London from
 Southend is the
 A13 and that's where the name came from, Eddie was really good mates
 with Mark Broom and the Plaid guys. I saw him at Lost with Juan,
 Derrick and Kyle Hall the other week losing his nut to Derrick's set
 and his still talking of starting another label, and a club.

 He'll be very pleased people rate A13 as highly as Ifach. He told me
 once he still has loads of back cat unsold just sat around collecting dust.



 Stuff I rate that no one else seems to;



 Stasis and all the names he recorded under, but I really love the Paul
 W Teebrooke and Other world collective stuff

 Lee Purkis/In-Sync

 All the stuff on Ferox but the Russ Gabriel stuff is excellent

 Electronic Industries / Octagon Man / Sem



 Im not sure how over looked it was but the Norma Jean Bell LP- Come in
 to my room had some ace tracks on it, but the 2 for me are the ones co
 produced by K-Hand;

 Nobody and Feel what I like. I think it was massively passed over in
 the UK





 
 From: benny blanco(r) [mailto:be...@blancodisco.com]
 Sent: 03 December 2012 18:36

 To: kent williams
 Cc: list 313
 Subject: Re: (313) Ask 313

 Okay, I'll bite.

 I always dug the 'Obscure' Pure Plastic / A13 sounds from Mark
 Broom/Dave Hill camp in the UK from the 90's.
 Not always 'detroit', but certainly techno and sometimes a nice
 downtempo breaky track in there too.

 Some Other Label Faves Pacific Records and Ifach


 benny blanco(r)
 blancodisco.com


 On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:23 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 OK, now that we've established that lurkers know how to send e-mail
 to the list ...

 This is an idea for a mix I'd like to do.  Here's the question: What
 is your favorite techno that no one else seems to rate highly?

 Extra points for being obscure.

 What's my impetus?  I buy a lot of records at thrift stores and from
 crawling around in the crates on the floor at Dave's in Chicago.  I
 look for things that might be OK based on producer, remixer and
 artists.  So I have a lot of records that have decent to excellent
 tracks on them, that for one reason or another never got much enduring 
 attention.

 Since I can't crate dig in Detroit very often, I'm looking for those
 sorts of things, after which i can engage in Internet searchage.

Re: (313) RE: NYE

[Aidan O'Doherty]

sounds like the dream

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Daniel Bean daniel.b...@bbc.co.uk wrote:
 It's a combination of things:

 Good music - a mixture of slowed down old house tracks and odd electronic 
 records that seem to fit together well somehow.
 Good crowd, diverse in terms of age and with broad tastes.
 Regular parties (its every month).
 Good DJs - Years ago they used to have guests but now it's just the two 
 residents (Andy Blake and Joe Hart) playing all night every month. This works 
 really well since the bond they've established with the crowd is strong.
 Unpretentious - It's dark, there's a strobe and fog machine, the sound system 
 is loud, beer is cheap. That's pretty much it - no frills.

 A few people have been saying it's the best house party in London. That might 
 be slightly hyperbolic, but it's not too far off the mark I suspect. Best of 
 all, despite those plaudits the parties aren't full of trend chasing idiots.

 -Original Message-
 From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 06 December 2012 14:13
 To: Paul Kendrick
 Cc: Daniel Bean; Rob Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) RE: NYE

 fill us in - what makes it so good?

 On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Paul Kendrick p...@dagmar-tara.com wrote:
 I've still never made it to a World Unknown party...!

 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Bean [mailto:daniel.b...@bbc.co.uk]
 Sent: 06 December 2012 13:59
 To: Rob Taylor
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) RE: NYE

 Excellent!

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Taylor [mailto:barringtonphelo...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 06 December 2012 13:56
 To: Daniel Bean
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) RE: NYE

 Me too! Nice and intimate and sweaty!

 On 6 Dec 2012, at 13:27, Daniel Bean daniel.b...@bbc.co.uk wrote:

 I'm off to the World Unknown NYE party.

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:p...@dagmar-tara.com]
 Sent: 06 December 2012 13:18
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) NYE

 What are people up to on NYE, anyone going clubbing?

 London has Marcellus Pittman  Floating Points at Plastic People which will 
 be fun, Mike Huckaby  Kate Simko are at some warehouse in East London and 
 Robert Hood is playing live at Fabric.

 Even with all that happening I don't think I'll make it out clubbing to be 
 honest, Im leaning towards my local pub...



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Re: (313) Ask 313

[Aidan O'Doherty]

a13 had some great stuff. john tejada has a great album on a13 -
quadruple vinyl - reminiscent of the stuff he put out on 7th city

it always seems to be uk labels - so i will add another: fragmented

http://www.discogs.com/label/Fragmented%20Records


the jamie read (lhas) album on fragmented is a firm favourite of mine
- again, don't think it got much in the way of props

also great releases from paul mac, morgan geist, dan curtin, chris gray.



On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Paul Kendrick p...@dagmar-tara.com wrote:
 A13 was owned by a friend of mine Eddie, who lived in Southend on Sea in the
 South of the UK, and the main route getting to London from Southend is the
 A13 and that’s where the name came from, Eddie was really good mates with
 Mark Broom and the Plaid guys. I saw him at Lost with Juan, Derrick and Kyle
 Hall the other week losing his nut to Derrick’s set and his still talking of
 starting another label, and a club.

 He'll be very pleased people rate A13 as highly as Ifach. He told me once he
 still has loads of back cat unsold just sat around collecting dust.



 Stuff I rate that no one else seems to;



 Stasis and all the names he recorded under, but I really love the Paul W
 Teebrooke and Other world collective stuff

 Lee Purkis/In-Sync

 All the stuff on Ferox but the Russ Gabriel stuff is excellent

 Electronic Industries / Octagon Man / Sem



 Im not sure how over looked it was but the Norma Jean Bell LP- Come in to my
 room had some ace tracks on it, but the 2 for me are the ones co produced by
 K-Hand;

 Nobody and Feel what I like. I think it was massively passed over in the UK





 
 From: benny blanco® [mailto:be...@blancodisco.com]
 Sent: 03 December 2012 18:36

 To: kent williams
 Cc: list 313
 Subject: Re: (313) Ask 313

 Okay, I'll bite.

 I always dug the 'Obscure' Pure Plastic / A13 sounds from Mark Broom/Dave
 Hill camp in the UK from the 90's.
 Not always 'detroit', but certainly techno and sometimes a nice
 downtempo breaky track in there too.

 Some Other Label Faves Pacific Records and Ifach


 benny blanco®
 blancodisco.com


 On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:23 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 OK, now that we've established that lurkers know how to send e-mail to the
 list ...

 This is an idea for a mix I'd like to do.  Here's the question: What is
 your favorite techno that no one else seems to rate highly?

 Extra points for being obscure.

 What's my impetus?  I buy a lot of records at thrift stores and from
 crawling around in the crates on the floor at Dave's in Chicago.  I look for
 things that might be OK based on producer, remixer and artists.  So I have a
 lot of records that have decent to excellent tracks on them, that for one
 reason or another never got much enduring attention.

 Since I can't crate dig in Detroit very often, I'm looking for those sorts
 of things, after which i can engage in Internet searchage.

Re: (313) Ask 313

[Aidan O'Doherty]

 Eddies full of very funny stories, years ago towards the end of out door
 raves Eddie somehow ended up having Frankie Bones living with him in
 Southend, I think Frankie was getting booked a lot in the UK around this
 time. The story goes that Frankie stayed for about 4 month but had to return
 to NYC because he couldn’t handle the madness of Eddies life and the scrapes
 he'd get him into, and apparently Frankie was a broken man when he returned
 homehahaha

sounds like there's a book in that

Re: (313) roll call?

[Aidan O'Doherty]

sounds like there should be a 313 junior list at this stage. my two
youngest like rock (boy, 5: ac/dc, guns  roses) and pop (girl, 7:
katy perry, psy), but the eldest (14) is getting into more electronic
music - she loves henrik schwarz's remix of omar. bought it herself,
which is probably unusual.

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Matt Chester chesterm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 Still here, subbed for a year around 98 then again in 2002, here ever since.  
  Based just outside London these days, with 2 lovely kids now.   Still doing 
 music as much as I can, which is obviously far less than before I had them!   
 I'm training them up though, my girl is already a big depeche mode fan :). 
 And my boy loves hitting my drum machines.
 Along with everything else...

 Cheers
 Matt



 On 1 Dec 2012, at 21:44, Placid pla...@acid-house.net wrote:

 Nice to see so many people still around, can't remember when I subbed, but 
 still posting,  just had a baby girl (the heiress to my record collection) 
 so don't have as much time to spend on music but stil buying and playing out

 P


 Sent from my iPhone

 On 29 Nov 2012, at 05:26, darkcube darkc...@datavibe.net wrote:

 hello, indeed.

 - darkcube [ detroit techno militia ]

 On Nov 28, 2012, at 9:23 PM, xcopy wrote:

 Hi there.


 Erik Cronin
 http://codine.com

 From: maxphi...@gmail.com maxphi...@gmail.com
 To: mar...@nomorewords.net; 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 6:57 AM
 Subject: (313) roll call?

 I'm still here - writing from a train on the way from Hamburg to Berlin.

 Anyone else?

 m50


 At 2012.11.28 11:47, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:
 how many subscribers are left anyway?

 and will there be a 20 years anniversary party?


 Op 28-11-2012 11:46, Philip McGarva schreef:
 btw i haven't been lurking for like 5 years - i just resubbed. it's good
 to be back!

Re: (313) roll call?

[Aidan O'Doherty]

that's brilliant (the techno dads) - i've now got a new crew.

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Tristan Watkins phonop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hehe. If 313 was always the dad techno list, there's certainly a few more
 actual dads here these days. Y'all seen this? http://techno-dads.com/

 On this end of the Surrey Techno Dads posse, my older boy is making a habit
 of asking for fun fun fun on a weekend morning, which pleases me to no
 end. Sometimes he asks for robots instead. Not long ago he discovered the
 Planet Delsin CD, which is now known as blue robots. He was busting some
 new moves to the Starfighterz track on that yesterday.


 On 3 December 2012 13:15, Matt Chester chesterm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 Still here, subbed for a year around 98 then again in 2002, here ever
 since.   Based just outside London these days, with 2 lovely kids now.
 Still doing music as much as I can, which is obviously far less than before
 I had them!   I'm training them up though, my girl is already a big depeche
 mode fan :). And my boy loves hitting my drum machines.
 Along with everything else...

 Cheers
 Matt



 On 1 Dec 2012, at 21:44, Placid pla...@acid-house.net wrote:

  Nice to see so many people still around, can't remember when I subbed,
  but still posting,  just had a baby girl (the heiress to my record
  collection) so don't have as much time to spend on music but stil buying 
  and
  playing out
 
  P
 
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On 29 Nov 2012, at 05:26, darkcube darkc...@datavibe.net wrote:
 
  hello, indeed.
 
  - darkcube [ detroit techno militia ]
 
  On Nov 28, 2012, at 9:23 PM, xcopy wrote:
 
  Hi there.
 
 
  Erik Cronin
  http://codine.com
 
  From: maxphi...@gmail.com maxphi...@gmail.com
  To: mar...@nomorewords.net; 313@hyperreal.org
  Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 6:57 AM
  Subject: (313) roll call?
 
  I'm still here - writing from a train on the way from Hamburg to
  Berlin.
 
  Anyone else?
 
  m50
 
 
  At 2012.11.28 11:47, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:
  how many subscribers are left anyway?
 
  and will there be a 20 years anniversary party?
 
 
  Op 28-11-2012 11:46, Philip McGarva schreef:
  btw i haven't been lurking for like 5 years - i just resubbed. it's
  good
  to be back!
 

Re: (313) New Transmat Comp.

[Aidan O'Doherty]

so, for the likes of philip and stephen brown, the fact that they were
not contacted about his comp, despite may's quote that all artists got
paid in advance, means they will not get the royalties they deserve? i
think resident advisor should be made aware of this. what i find
surprising about their piece is the obvious fact that none of it was
checked out - a quick google search would turn up loads of info on
djinxx - sure they have him in their profiles, including his twitter
feed. it's not like they are up against print deadlines.


On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:
 oops


 2012/11/28 Marsel van der Wielen mar...@nomorewords.net


 Fabric once went bankrupt when I still had some unpaid statements

 Op 28-11-2012 7:24, Wibo Lammerts schreef:

 Stories like this one are very common, i think. Artists that do not get
 paid, ripped off etc etc. The worst of them being Larry Sherman and Trax
 Records.

 But you never hear of the companies that actually do a good job. Last year
 I had the pleasure of having a track included on the Fabric 60 Dave Clarke
 compilation. I think both Fabric and Tracksuite both do a fine job, Just
 this last week I got another royalty-statement from them in the mail. And I
 must add that this was my first bit of experience with labels and royalties
 and stuff, and so far so good.



 2012/11/28 wojciech wojtek@gmail.com

 make that money !!! ;)


 On Nov 27, 2012, at 17:08, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote:

 GO DERRICK!


 On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Sam samuel.kar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Way to shoot yourself in the foot Derrick ..ie keep it hush when you rip
 off artists ..that's the best way..maybe something like  I had to sell my
 Ferrari to pay for the cd press and all profits are going to the Red Cross

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 28/11/2012, at 6:28 AM, John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

  'It's a seriously real thing with a fairly decent budget spent on it.
 Every artist got paid in advance. There's marketing and promotions—it's
 real!'
 -Derrick May on business per usual at Transmat
  CC: 313@hyperreal.org
  From: irid...@gmail.com
  Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:05:57 +
  To: philipmcga...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: (313) New Transmat Comp.
 
  LOL - Stephen Brown was in our store on Saturday helping us celebrate
  our 20th Birthday and he didn't know much about it either :)
 
  Cheers
 
  Jason
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On 26 Nov 2012, at 21:39, Philip McGarva philipmcga...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  
   Yes thanks for the heads up. First I've heard of it too :^)
  
   Philip / Microworld
  
   Cool. Thanks much for the heads-up on this.
  
   On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Christian Hcjh4...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=18303
  
   Nice to see people like Rennie Foster get more exposure.





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Re: (313) New Transmat Comp.

[Aidan O'Doherty]

i mailed their news editor - not that i expect anything to come of it

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Aidan O'Doherty
aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com wrote:
 so, for the likes of philip and stephen brown, the fact that they were
 not contacted about his comp, despite may's quote that all artists got
 paid in advance, means they will not get the royalties they deserve? i
 think resident advisor should be made aware of this. what i find
 surprising about their piece is the obvious fact that none of it was
 checked out - a quick google search would turn up loads of info on
 djinxx - sure they have him in their profiles, including his twitter
 feed. it's not like they are up against print deadlines.


 On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:
 oops


 2012/11/28 Marsel van der Wielen mar...@nomorewords.net


 Fabric once went bankrupt when I still had some unpaid statements

 Op 28-11-2012 7:24, Wibo Lammerts schreef:

 Stories like this one are very common, i think. Artists that do not get
 paid, ripped off etc etc. The worst of them being Larry Sherman and Trax
 Records.

 But you never hear of the companies that actually do a good job. Last year
 I had the pleasure of having a track included on the Fabric 60 Dave Clarke
 compilation. I think both Fabric and Tracksuite both do a fine job, Just
 this last week I got another royalty-statement from them in the mail. And I
 must add that this was my first bit of experience with labels and royalties
 and stuff, and so far so good.



 2012/11/28 wojciech wojtek@gmail.com

 make that money !!! ;)


 On Nov 27, 2012, at 17:08, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote:

 GO DERRICK!


 On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Sam samuel.kar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Way to shoot yourself in the foot Derrick ..ie keep it hush when you rip
 off artists ..that's the best way..maybe something like  I had to sell my
 Ferrari to pay for the cd press and all profits are going to the Red 
 Cross

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 28/11/2012, at 6:28 AM, John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

  'It's a seriously real thing with a fairly decent budget spent on it.
 Every artist got paid in advance. There's marketing and promotions—it's
 real!'
 -Derrick May on business per usual at Transmat
  CC: 313@hyperreal.org
  From: irid...@gmail.com
  Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:05:57 +
  To: philipmcga...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: (313) New Transmat Comp.
 
  LOL - Stephen Brown was in our store on Saturday helping us celebrate
  our 20th Birthday and he didn't know much about it either :)
 
  Cheers
 
  Jason
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On 26 Nov 2012, at 21:39, Philip McGarva philipmcga...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  
   Yes thanks for the heads up. First I've heard of it too :^)
  
   Philip / Microworld
  
   Cool. Thanks much for the heads-up on this.
  
   On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Christian Hcjh4...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=18303
  
   Nice to see people like Rennie Foster get more exposure.





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Re: (313) New Transmat Comp.

[Aidan O'Doherty]

is this a good thing or a bad thing, Philip?

i'm surprised by the fact that, in the interview may says he never
heard of djinxx before - he has released stuff on loads of labels,
including delsin, 100% pure and fu comm! it's not like he is a new
discovery.

also, from his twitter feed, it does not like he is a devout muslim

https://twitter.com/Djinxx

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Philip McGarva philipmcga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes thanks for the heads up. First I've heard of it too :^)

 Philip / Microworld

 Cool. Thanks much for the heads-up on this.


 On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Christian Hcjh4...@gmail.com  wrote:


 http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=18303

 Nice to see people like Rennie Foster get more exposure.

(313) Bandcamp

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Can anyone please tell me what 313-list oriented music is available on
Bandcamp - I know Third Ear, Emphasis are labels available there? Any
others I should be searching for?

Regards,
Aidan

Re: (313) I'm off!

[Aidan O'Doherty]

take care of yourself, francis.

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 3:33 PM,  fran...@thatamazingthing.com wrote:
 After around 9 years membership of 313 I'll be leaving in a few days, for
 the moment at least.

 There've been a few times over the years when I thought of going - back in
 the day of heated debates on here I might even have thought of flouncing
 off (though that was usually others).

 More recently I find I don't pay so much attention.  313 used to be a unique
 source of info, now there are others.  Also, while Detroit techno keeps it's
 place in my heart, there was more of it  related good stuff being made when
 I joined - or  a greater proportion of what I bought / listened to was of
 list relevance.  Now I feel it's the odd release now  then that ticks my
 box (in fact that's true generally, let alone about the reduced amount of
 goodness coming out of the motor city).

 This isn't meant as another of those -there's no good music anymore
 messages, I still buy plenty of records.  Just that I hardly check my 313
 folder anymore  I'm about to go away for a few weeks, have decided I don't
 want to be sorting through 313 mail on my phone  (rather than setting up
 filtering with my ISP, rather than mail client) am suspending for now.

 So I wanted to say to all those I've corresponded with over the years how
 much pleasure this list has given me  that it was nice to meet you.  Some
 of you I see other places outside here, to those I don't I wish you all the
 best!

 Cheers
 Francis

Re: (313) Aesthetic Audio Mix

[Aidan O'Doherty]

lovely - can't wait to get into this. nice one, andrew. mixes like
these, featuring just one label, are brilliant for understanding the
'aesthetic' of its sound.

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Andrew Green mr.verd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello team,

 some weeks ago there was bit of chat about new Detroit labels and i was
 raving about Keith Worthy's Aesthetic Audio.      This weekend to follow the
 release of the latest chapter i decided to record a dedicated mix to this
 imprint.

 https://soundcloud.com/verdant-recordings/aesthetics

 its a vinyl mix covering nearly all the EPs picking out some of favorites.

 enjoy,

 cheers

 Andy
 AndY GreeN

 www.verdant-recordings.com

Re: (313) !00% Pure Special Part 2

[Aidan O'Doherty]

much prefer the first incarnation of 100% pure - secret life of
machines, for me, is just incredible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZBU86QH964feature=related

even some of the stuff off thera:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0MIyC0KNcs

100% pure, second time round, is a very different animal. they don't
even seem related.

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Richard Hester gwrenc...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Tonight it's the 2nd and last segment of a 2-part radio special examining
 the two lives of Amsterdam label 100% Pure. Last week took a look at the
 first life (1993-1998), the label's ethereal forward-looking phase, with
 tracks of interest to both experimentalists (one reminded me of 7th Plain)
 and stalwart Detroit types. I also took a look at early tracks after the
 label's 2004 revival. This first segment will be downloadable at
 www.kfjc.org for another week.

 Tonight I'm working my way through a good portion of the more recent 100%
 Pure artist roster (extensive, lots of new faces and some old friends of the
 label) and playing the Voltt 2 DJ mix by label honcho Dylan Hermelijn/2000
 and One.

 The show is tonight, May 25, 10P-2A PDST (GMT minus 7 hours, London time
 minus 8 hours - use San Francisco time to compute time difference form your
 city) on KFJC-FM, 89.7 MHz, in Los Altos Hills, CA (San Francisco Bay Area).
 Those out of the area can listen in via webcast, linked at http://kfjc.org ,
 and download/stream an archive for up to 2 weeks after show time, linked at
 the same site (both live stream and archives are linked right at the top of
 the web page).

 Next week is a 4-hour Dutch Treat special featuring 4 hours of Dutch
 Electronic music of all sorts.



            Richard Hester
            Goodwrench
            KFJC-FM 89.7
            Los Altos Hill, CA, USA
       http://kfjc.org

Re: (313) KMS 25

[Aidan O'Doherty]

techno galacticos!

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://kevinsaunderson.com/kms-25.html

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Re: (313) Carls Davis AKA Carl Craig

[Aidan O'Doherty]

since i can't listen to samples in work, can i ask people's opinions -
is it any cop?

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote:
 New EP; new alias.

 http://pulseradio.net/articles/2012/05/carl-craig-releases-ep-under-new-moniker

Re: (313) 'soulful techno'

[Aidan O'Doherty]

thanks for the heads up on that - looks great. i am obsessed with
melancholic, bittersweet house/techno/electro - music wise, it's my
top priority, an endless search. it's why i love detroit techno so
much, that was the element that attracted me (after hearing 'icon',
journey of the dragons', etc).

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote:
 It's a beautiful EP from track A to D.

 Techno for grown ups whilst still being true to the genre in terms of 
 immediacy and essential simplicity.

 Ken

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Chester [mailto:chesterm...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 09 March 2012 13:09
 To: Aidan O'Doherty
 Cc: list 313
 Subject: Re: (313) 'soulful techno'

 Have you got this one?   Highly recommended, it's got a lovely electro
 track on it.

 http://www.discogs.com/Nick-Dunton-Sketches-Of-My-Life/release/2623862


 On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Aidan O'Doherty
 aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com wrote:

 here's the latest 'soulful' techno favourite i've discovered:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtgTSC18C6sfeature=related

 and one that i've rediscovered:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNgzYQbqCqk

Re: (313) John Tejada 7th City reissues

[Aidan O'Doherty]

I couldn't possibly disagree with this more.

 His most recent Parabolas (Kompakt) from last year was pretty much my 
 favorite record of last year.

 I get the Plaid comparisons but I see them as just influences and his stuff 
 is far, far more interesting to me than whatever Plaid are doing nowadays (if 
 their live show is any indication).

        - Greg

 Disclaimer: I've been good friends with John and his wife Lynn for over 16 
 years and yes I'm f'in biased!


defo that you're biased! haven't got around to that album yet, but, on
kent williams' recommendation to the list, i did get the single,
unstable condition. think i liked the b side more - nice melancholic
touch to it.

(313) sistrum

[Aidan O'Doherty]

patrice scott's sistrum label is one that i've not paid too much
attention to, to my own cost. i am trying to remedy that now. it's my
flavour of the month at the moment, along with emphasis records (thank
you, bandcamp). any other labels like this that i should be keeping an
eye on - what about aesthetic audio? and underground quality (always
mixing up dj qu and jus-ed)? can anyone point me towards essential
releases from these labels, that are available digitally?

heard a tazz track ('lost' from the world of techno ep) used on a mix
- that's exactly the kind of stuff i'm looking for, if anyone is aware
of it.

regards,
aidan

Re: (313) something to d/l (by derek carr)

[Aidan O'Doherty]

no probs - mr carr deserves some recognition. whatever happened to
digital soul, is stewart still on the list? i think i still have all
the releases from that label, somewhere. remember a killer duplex
remix on one of 12s.

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:05 PM,  balis...@bprince.com wrote:
 Takes me back to Digital Soul. Thanks for the tip Aidan.
 Quoting Aidan O'Doherty aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com:

 might be worth downloading for some - detroit styles, from mullingar,
 westmeath.
 http://soundcloud.com/derekcarr/motion-emotion

(313) John Tejada 7th City reissues

[Aidan O'Doherty]

http://www.residentadvisor.net/review-view.aspx?id=10304

didn't know this was happening - makes very happy. tejada's best
stuff. as far as i'm concerned, the only releases you need from his
back catalogue (except for his album on A13 and 'A Fading Memory' off
the Toiling of Idle Hands' album on Immigrant).

Re: (313) John Tejada 7th City reissues

[Aidan O'Doherty]

the guy produces so much and a lot of it did sound so similar that it
was hard to differentiate between releases. just think the stuff on
7th city stood out more. 7th city seems like a mythical label now.
remember walking into a now long defunct record store in dublin and
they had a dj set-up and the guy was playing a track off his 2nd 12
on 7th city. walked straight up to the counter and said i'll have one
of those, please.

 but you've reminded me of a lot of other stuff that he put out. like
on mosaic (which i have somewhere).

also, his album and releases on (de)focus with the divine styler
rhyming and his mother (that right?) singing on them.


On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Rob Taylor
barringtonphelo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I dunno. I just like it and it sounds like Plaid

 On 24 Jan 2012, at 18:51, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:

 Could you really like it that much if you thought it was a blatant
 Plaid rip-off?

 Maybe I'm quibbling over definitions, but 'blatant rip-off' implies
 that it isn't as good as the original.  If it's good, it's good, and
 any stylistic similarities are irrelevant to its quality.

 In a certain respect everything is a rip off of everything.  Shades
 of Jae rips off Bob James.

  listening right now to Daydreams In Cold Weather, I can hear the
 Plaid similarity, but Tejada is more straightforward rhythmically, and
 where Plaid makes melodic puzzle-palaces using random processes,
 Tejada seems to use more intentional composing.

 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Rob Taylor
 barringtonphelo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I really like his Daydreams In Cold Weather album from 2002, esp Young, 
 even though the whole thing is a blatant  Plaid rip off

 On 24 Jan 2012, at 17:48, Matt Chester chesterm...@gmail.com wrote:

 'Song forms  freedom' on Mosaic is his best imo, along with Timebomb.
 There's a great one he did with Titonton as well, can't recall the name 
 though - will dig it out tonight.

 I think he's got plenty of good material to be honest, lots of good b side 
 tracks well worth digging out...

 On 24/01/2012 14:25, jwan allen wrote:
 Agreed his strongest material to date, not to say he didn't have any
 highlights on his palette material. But these records in particular
 still kill it. I dropped the timebomb vip mix two weeks ago a gig here
 in Pittsburgh and it was well received on the dancefloor.

 Unlike most collectors I'm happy with reissues, since one it keeps
 vinyl going ( my medium of choice) and it keeps tunes current for the
 new generations of people that aren't nearly as nerdy about dance
 music as we are.

 John had some moments on the mosaic label as well, but I may be biased
 on that front. I was a big fan of that label and its output.

 jw

 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Aidan O'Doherty
 aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com  wrote:
 http://www.residentadvisor.net/review-view.aspx?id=10304

 didn't know this was happening - makes very happy. tejada's best
 stuff. as far as i'm concerned, the only releases you need from his
 back catalogue (except for his album on A13 and 'A Fading Memory' off
 the Toiling of Idle Hands' album on Immigrant).

Re: (313) Real time record reviews...

[Aidan O'Doherty]

quo vadis - how many times has that been re-released now? still,
sounds amazing still though - 'timeless'


On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:28 AM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote:
 ...errr, not really happening is it?  Think it was 3 weeks ago I
 was going to review the NDTAL thing?  I wasn't really that blown away
 by it to be honest so, moving swiftly on...

 Styrax are releasing an old Kenny Larkin/Pod thing - Anapest along
 with G-Man Quo Vadis - I always wonder how these guys (Styrax stay
 in business) as they only do 300 copies of a lot of their releases so
 I don't even know how they cover costs never mind licensing the tracks
 etc?  Glad they're still doing it anyway!

 There's some more Detroit goodies been repressed on the rather
 excellent Global Communications Out Of The Box compilation and
 associated 12's - the new one has BFC, Urban Tribe and Fade II Black
 (Jay Denham) on it

 and finally, check out Monty Luke's new 12 on his own Black Catalouge
 label (he works at Planet E) - nice stuff from the D.


 And in a kind of spammy way.our site is finally back up!  Any
 comments and criticisms are very welcome - it's still work in progress
 and we haven't really told anyone it's been launched yet so..fire
 away!

 www.rubadub.co.uk

 cheers!

 Jason

Re: (313) The Techno Monster Mix

[Aidan O'Doherty]

as i get older, i find it harder and harder to listen to nose-bleed
inducing bpms. it just sounds wrong to my ears now. thankfully, most
detroit techno ain't that fast, or sounds grand slowed down.

good to see jamie read on the tracklist. love LHAS and his album on fragmented

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Placid pla...@acid-house.net wrote:
 Essentially records which I have but have not yet managed to put into a mix 
 as they are either too fast or too bonkers or a combination of both.

 Naturally, my idea of bonkers and yours may vary, but I can only go by my own 
 bonkers induced reality and upload the result.  Looking back, theres only a 
 couple I'd class as full on monsters, but the not so full-on are blooming 
 fast…  oddly enough i still ended up playing them at about -4, the thought of 
 hearing them on 0 or + anything baffles me..

 anyway  enough warbling..

 mix is here - http://www.acid-house.net/technomonsters.mp3

 Basic Channel – Phylyps Trak - Basic Channel
 Aphex Twin – Aboriginal Mix - White
 DJ ESP - Fresh Air - Generator
 Sterac - promo
 Dark Comedy –  Clavia's North - Art of Dance
 Sympletic – Noname (Remix) - Ifach
 Planetary Assault Systems - Forms - Peacefrog
 The Memory Foundation - m-Plant
 Anthony Shakir - The Random Hustle - Dust Science
 Mystic Rythem – Track Relaxer - Peacefrog
 Woody Mcbride - Rattlesnake - Magnetic North
 Jamie Read – Vibe Nations - Ugly
 Blake Baxter - Vision of Truth - UR
 The Source - Untitled - RS
 Basic Channel – Octaedre - Basic Channel plank  promo 003  i think
 Monolake – Cyan - Chain Reaction
 Indio - Blue Fantasy - Transmat
 Jeff Mills - Untitled - Axis
 Like a Tim - Avanger - Djax-up-beats
 Nico - Withdrawl - ESP
 Perfect Sync - Down the Deep
 Paresys – Untitled - Re-Load
 Mike Henk – Untitled  - Pulsar

 Done in one hit on 2xtechnics 1210s - approx 2 hours (just under)  @320 kbps  
 280mb.

 FOr more infos, gigs and musics - like me - 
 http://www.facebook.com/pages/Placid/191249620933551

 enjoy

Re: (313) My KRUI Radio Show DJ set

[Aidan O'Doherty]

 Tejada has a new full length on Kompakt. Haven't gotten it yet, have
 high hopes for it. Unstable Condition is a corker.

must have a listen to that. i love tejada's early stuff on 7th city and a13 -

http://www.discogs.com/John-Tejada-Little-Green-Lights-And-Four-Inch-Faders/master/19036

http://www.discogs.com/John-Tejada-The-Blue-Dawn/master/6413

http://www.discogs.com/John-Tejada-Significant-Numbers/release/98

and some of the early palette releases - perfect warm, melodic techno.

love 'a fading memory' as well. hair stood up on the back oy my neck
when i first heard it.

http://www.discogs.com/John-Tejada-The-Toiling-Of-Idle-Hands-EP/release/349834

anyone recommend anymore of his stuff - just hard to wade through it all?

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 6:13 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 I play a bunch of the new Kate Simko, a bunch of Stewart Walker tracks
 from his new Son of Cataclysm label, Reggie Dokes Royal Oak 8, John
 Tejada's  Unstable Condition EP, and a bunch from the new Hessle
 Audio compilation.
 So an hr+ of housey techno and technoey house, then the BPM run up to
 140 and all hell breaks loose.

 http://music.cornwarning.com/2011/06/19/krui-dj-set-6-18-2011/
 http://www.cornwarning.com/chaircrusher/Chaircrusher-KRUIDJSet-2011-06-18.mp3

 Tejada has a new full length on Kompakt. Haven't gotten it yet, have
 high hopes for it. Unstable Condition is a corker.

Re: (313) dj set by duplex (clone records)

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Tracklist:
1 split - slick n' flash (backtobasics recordings 013)
2 to be a man like ingerol - railway raver (rephlex lp 066)
3 rainbow bright - rollah (unlocked groove 001)
4 cadence - emphasis 001)
5 equal - sasse presents (mood music 001)
6 untitled - sonic insomniac (new religion)
7 burn - orlando voorn (rs)
8 high skies - sumatra _ atjazz mix (miso 003)
9 driven - estroe_jamie jone's mix (connaisseaur recordings)
10 promo - deep art (rush hour 001)
11 eltec - maarten van der vleuten (mighty robot recordings)
12 vanguard - kenny larkin (rush hour 104)
13 getting ready - edward d mckeithen
14 lonely planet - pollon (scopex records)
15 how do you plead? - soofle from paris (fragile 006)

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:35 AM, mislav bobic mis...@point.com.sg wrote:
 tracklist would be nice since it's very nice set


 On Aug 8, 2010, at 5:46 AM, Aidan O'Doherty wrote:

 am an unashamed fan of duplex. and stumbled on this by chance on
 soundcloud. seems not many people are aware of its existence (it had
 two plays/dls when i came across it). contains one of my fave electro
 numbers of all time, pollon 'electratech'.

 http://www.discogs.com/Pollon-Electratech/release/3515

 http://soundcloud.com/johnmatze/high-sky-deep-sea-dj-set-by-duplex

(313) More Duplex

[Aidan O'Doherty]

they may be dutch, but their music is definitely relevant to this
list, so more duplex related matters:
http://fieldrec.blogspot.com/

and coming up on the aug 30th 8pm (cet) a 2.5 hour special mix with
(mostly) new and unreleased material.
http://www.xt3radio.nl/shows/deep-monday/

(313) dj set by duplex (clone records)

[Aidan O'Doherty]

am an unashamed fan of duplex. and stumbled on this by chance on
soundcloud. seems not many people are aware of its existence (it had
two plays/dls when i came across it). contains one of my fave electro
numbers of all time, pollon 'electratech'.

http://www.discogs.com/Pollon-Electratech/release/3515

http://soundcloud.com/johnmatze/high-sky-deep-sea-dj-set-by-duplex

Re: (313) back on the list

[Aidan O'Doherty]

thanks for all the tips, much appreciated

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 7:07 AM, kent williamschaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 When ordering Detroit stuff, I always look here first:

 http://electrofunk.com/main/catalog/index.php

 They don't really cover all of Detroit Techno, but they're no more
 expensive than Beatport  the others, and you're giving money to the
 primary distributor of the music.

 RE Juan -- We saw him after Jeff Mills played during the Festival at
 Buzz Goree's party.  I was too tired to stick it out, and had been
 pummeled by Mills for 3 hours.  I stuck around long enough to hear him
 do some sorta shaky mixes.

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Aidan
 O'Dohertyaidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello, my name is aidan and i'm back on the list after a break of
 about two years. i used to buy vinyl, but have now switched to
 digital, as a domestic dispute ended with my collection nestling in a
 landfill and my decks smashed up and left in an attic. just wondering
 where the best place is to buy (yes, buy) digital files of detroit
 techno/house artists. i have bought mp3s/wavs off juno, beatport, dj
 download and beatport, but none seem to be that great for detroit
 stuff. what ever happened to the detroit digital store? i need to
 rebuild my transmat, metroplex, ur, redplanet, planet e, etc
 collection, but vinyl as a format is out of the question for me now.

 also, on related detroit matters, was in a dublin (ireland) club for
 the first time in 18 months last week and saw juan atkins play. he
 turned up quite late, but he looked fairly healthy  and his mixing was
 very tight, as far as i could tell. the music he played was ok. seemed
 very contemporary. but at the end he did play 'strings of life', some
 model 500 stuff, and 'i feel love'. then finished with a beautiful
 string-laden track.

 good to be back,
 aidan

(313) back on the list

[Aidan O'Doherty]

hello, my name is aidan and i'm back on the list after a break of
about two years. i used to buy vinyl, but have now switched to
digital, as a domestic dispute ended with my collection nestling in a
landfill and my decks smashed up and left in an attic. just wondering
where the best place is to buy (yes, buy) digital files of detroit
techno/house artists. i have bought mp3s/wavs off juno, beatport, dj
download and beatport, but none seem to be that great for detroit
stuff. what ever happened to the detroit digital store? i need to
rebuild my transmat, metroplex, ur, redplanet, planet e, etc
collection, but vinyl as a format is out of the question for me now.

also, on related detroit matters, was in a dublin (ireland) club for
the first time in 18 months last week and saw juan atkins play. he
turned up quite late, but he looked fairly healthy  and his mixing was
very tight, as far as i could tell. the music he played was ok. seemed
very contemporary. but at the end he did play 'strings of life', some
model 500 stuff, and 'i feel love'. then finished with a beautiful
string-laden track.

good to be back,
aidan

Re: (313) A mix by Scott Ferguson of Ferrispark Records

[Aidan O'Doherty]

what does 'sweating it' mean?

On 21/04/2008, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 that moodyman track has been in the wild for at least 5 months, why is
 everyone sweating it?

  - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 2:21 PM
  Subject: (313) A mix by Scott Ferguson of Ferrispark Records




  we have a great eclectic mix by scott ferguson (our second guest mix
  by a guy named scott in a row, in fact!) over at ISM:
 
 
 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/04/21/guest-mix-scott-ferguson-of-ferrispark-records/
 
  tracklist:
 
  Brian Eno  David Byrne Solo Guitar With Tin Foil My Life In the
  Bush of Ghosts
  Nitin Sawhney The Namesake Opening Titles The Namesake
  Dead Can Dance The Ubiquitous Mr Lovegrove Wake
  Alanis Morissette Uninvited MTV Unplugged: Alanis Morissette (Live)
  Scott Ferguson Blood Breath (Andrew Schultz Dedication Mix) For All
  Days, My Blood, My Brothers
  Stanley Clark Song to John (Part 1) Journey To Love
  Norman Connors The Creator has a Master Plan You Are My Starship
  Bill Evans Peace Piece The Best of Bill Evans
  Tom Waits Martha Closing Time
  Gordon Lightfoot The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald Summertime Dream
  Bobby Caldwell To Know What You've Got Cat In The Hat
  Scott Ferguson My Blood, My Brother (Steve Ferguson Dedication Mix)
  For All Days, My Blood, My Brothers
  Moodyman Freaky Mothah F*ckah KDJ (white label)
 
  it's got that moodymann everyone on here has been sweating!
 
  tom
 

Re: (313) Booooooo!!!!!

[Aidan O'Doherty]

no one is gonna argue with that - it is a pikey thing to do. but it
could be a whole lot worse, ie it was records. if it's his livelihood,
i'd be very surprised if he doesn't have it backed up. sure, aren't
external hds cheap as chips these days?

Re: (313) Booooooo!!!!!

[Aidan O'Doherty]

that's the great thing about technology - it is so easy to replace, so
it's not such a loss. maybe he has the thing encrypted!
(uh-oh, showing my lack of tech savvy - aidan, you divvy).

if it was a bag of records, i would feel for him more, 'coz that takes
an awful lot more effort to replace, and some might be irreplaceable.

On 11/04/2008, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   However, I think really as long as he's backed the drive up (and why
  wouldn't he?) then I do take the point that this is something that is
  completely replaceable.

 Replaceable now, yeah, but not during a performance! And now there's
 unfinished work that's been made public, which sucks for anybody.

 --
 matt kane's brain
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org
 AIM: mkbatwerk

Re: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08

[Aidan O'Doherty]

there is one wink track that i have that i will forever keep:
http://www.discogs.com/release/129764

that's all i got to say on the matter - i try and see the good in everyone

On 26/03/2008, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 wow.  tom middleton just lost 1000 cool points in my eyes.  how could
 he possibly give josh wink credit for minimal music!? the new wave
 qualification does not justify the complete disregard for dan and rob,
 not to mention basic channel?

 i guess, though, in a way, he's right.  if we're talking about
 mediocre detroit minimal techno wannabes, josh wink did sort of
 trailblaze that movement.

 funny thing is, i actually really still love josh wink's older
 records, quite in spite of myself.

 and tom middleton has done enough brilliant work in my opinion to
 maintain some respect for him.

 On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:50 AM, Cyclone Wehner
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  He told me himself actually. Quotes are below. I think you could find the
  original story I wrote on 3d world mag's site. He was mainly raving how much
  he loves Jon Hopkins who I actually am enjoying too now. Tom did an album
  late last year that I think is quite enjoyable.
 
  Josh Wink doesn't get the props that he deserves. He more or less created
  this whole new sound and, for the most part, it's been appropriated across
  Europe.
  If you look at his style, and trace it back a few years, he's probably one
  of the first of the new wave to really focus on this stripped-down minimal
  house vibe.
  He's still the king for me.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On 26/03/2008, at 2:47 PM, Frank Glazer wrote:
 
  cyclone where'd you read that bit about middleton on wink?
 
  On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:44 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yeah, that sounds like a backhanded compliment to me
 
   Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/25/2008 10:30:37 PM:
 
 
 
 
 
  the idea of tom middleton giving that much respect to wink makes me
  kind of queasy.   then again, perhaps it's not respect per se.
 
  On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Cyclone Wehner
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Tom Middleton reckons it's Wink who is the real architect of the
   current sound so big in Europe. Interesting theory...
 
   Cyclone Wehner
   Urban/Dance Music Journalist
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
 
   On 26/03/2008, at 6:43 AM, diana potts wrote:
 
 
 
  I'm not hating on him- as said, I completely respect
  the music he has made and the energy he created in
  Philadelphia (though he plays there on such a rare
  basis anymore). I consider he and Nigel intelligent
  individuals who have seen more than my eyeballs ever
  will.
  I really wasn't aware of any image he has considering
  I don't go out or listen to recent downloads, etc.. I
  think it just takes a lot to get me getty about
  anyone, anywhere anymore. Show me creativity, do
  something else than a someone on a stage with
  finalscratch and a laptop.
 
  no hatin', all love
  but for the sake of discussion...
 
 
  --- Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 
  i don't really understand why so many people hate on
  josh wink.  his
  set at demf 06 left me cod but i really
  enjoy a lot of his
  records, and i've heard him play some really great
  dj sets too.  i
  think a lot of people hate on him, frankly, simply
  because of his
  image.
 
  On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:20 PM, diana potts
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  *braces self*
 
   I haven't seen Josh Wink play lately, but his
 
 
  music is
 
 
 
   not exactly a motivator.
 
   I completely admire what Josh built in Philly
 
 
  in the
 
 
 
   past with others. maybe Josh Wink battling it up
 
 
  live
 
 
 
   with Carl Craig. No preprogrammed weapons- just
 
 
  two
 
 
 
   men, turntables and some buttons.
 
   love from glasgow,
   d
 
   --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  iny dont they just call it ultra.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On 3/25/08, Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 12:59 AM,
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 
   saw it on another message board and
 
 
  checked his
 
 
 
  myspace page
 
 
 
 
   http://www.myspace.com/joshwink
 
   May 26 2008   8:00P
   WiNK @ DEMF, Detroit(To Be Confirmed)
 
 
  Detroit, Michigan
 
 
 
 
   Oh yeah, and Dubfire
 
 
  http://www.myspace.com/djdubfire
 
 
 
   May 26 2008   8:00P DEMF @ Hart Plaza
 
 
  Detroit
 
 
 
 
  exciting!
 
  not.
 
  tom
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  ---
  Michael Kuszynski
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.planerecordings.com
  New York, NY
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   __
 
 
  __
 
 
 
   Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page.
   http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  peace,
 
  frank
 
  dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   __
 
 
  __

Re: (313) no more [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Aidan O'Doherty]

i agree, we need more techno royalty gracing our list

On 29/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hmmm I don't know - the very reason you quote for unsubbing him seems like a 
 good one to keep him!  I think I find some real
 delusional madness more entertaining than the bunfights we usually get

  From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 28 January 2008 19:37
 
  He is now gone. The email where he claimed to be descended from
  European Royalty was the last straw for me.  He's unsubbed, and i
  filter all his email to trash.

(313) nubian mindz/alpha omega interview

[Aidan O'Doherty]

interview with delsin artist colin lindo is up on the ism blog.

http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/01/22/into-the-mind-of-nubian-mindz/

why not have a gander at it? (when you have a free moment, of course)

mix from the man to follow soon

thanks,
aidano

Re: (313) Bushes/older tracks

[Aidan O'Doherty]

is bushes already old school? wow

On 28/08/07, David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Also, there's a lot of younger people spinning who just don't know all
 the old school tracks...

 Speaking of which I can't find Bushes now, at least the version I like
 (Derrick Carter rmx on the Markus Nicholai perlon double pack). I'll
 tell you one thing, I realized recently there's a lot of slightly
 older Perlon tracks that I think are worthy of play, and I don't
 really hear them played.

 ~David

 On 8/28/07, Jeffrey Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You will see old tracks spun out more with the Techno
  DJ's than the house DJ's from what I have noticed.
 
  Ther is this thing in music that almost totally seems
  to relate to whats hot and unfortunatly Bushes isn't
  whats hot like it was a few years ago.
 
  Just look at who spins out Move Your Body.  It is
  either DJ's spinning an old school set, or a Techno DJ
  throwing it in like they usually do.  At least that is
  the way I see it...
 
  Also, a lot of the 5-6 year old house tracks sell for
  cheap $$ while Techno tracks  of the same quality (4
  or 5 stars) cost more.
 
  SOMEONE HELP ME WITH THIS MIX QUANDRY SO I DON'T BLOW
  A BUNCH OF MONEY ON THIS TRACK!  (sorry for the caps)
 
 
  thanks
 
  jeff
  --- diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   Speaking of...I love this track it always reminds me
   of the Mark Farina CD (as cheesy as that might be)
  
   Anywhose, speaking of older tracks being played a
   long
   time ago...why aren't they played as much now? Maybe
   it's just where I've been, but rarely do I hear a DJ
   throw in a throw back to their set. I like hearing
   familiar tracks from long agoit makes me all
   giggly and nostalgic.
  
   perhaps I'm alone on this?
  
   d
   ps. Thank you to Mr.Phred H for his wonderful
   hospitality in portland, OR. Thank you to Bryan
   Zentz
   for supplying a boogie worthy soundtrack.
  
  
   --- Jeffrey Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
  
Alrigh...I have always liked this song from back
   in
the day when guys in Chicago were spinning it left
and
right, but never bothered to track it down.
   
http://www.discogs.com/release/1765
   
   
Now, DJ Sneak spins a version of it called the
Ambush
Mix on this Essential Mix that I got off of
Soulseek.
   
   
   
  
  http://www.troonik.com/r/2/1426/dj-sneak-live-from-t-in-the-park-2005-07-10.aspx
   
It says here that it is a white label, and I would
like to verify if it is a hard to lacate mix, or
just
a different name on a mix from the Perlon release.
  
Sneak has the one I want, just not sure which one
   to
buy so I have it too.  If anyone could help me
   with
a
label and catalog number I would greatly
   appreciate
it.
   
Thanks
   
Jeff
   
   
   
   
  
  
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Re: (313) Lerosa

[Aidan O'Doherty]

he's an italian who took up residence in dublin for a while. he has a
live mix on the d1 website (don't know if it is still up there).

his first release was on d1, afik

On 27/07/07, Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 3:48 PM
 Subject: (313) Lerosa


  Hi Everyone !
  Just thought i would point people towards a few upcoming releases by
  Lerosa .
  i'm really excited by this artist at the moment . there is such a real
  craftsmanship in his work .


 Agreed. And that's good news. All three tracks on the Real Soon release are
 unusual but very good. Looking forward to the new stuff.

 Am I right in thinking he's a Londoner?

 Tristan
 ===
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.phonopsia.co.uk

Re: (313) Justice (Into Model 500/Convextion)

[Aidan O'Doherty]

now that is exciting. can he improve on the original? if any man can, he can.

On 02/07/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Phew!

OK, to get things somewhat back on topic, and as people mentioned M500
used in a commercial ...

Was reading on another forum that Starlight by Model 500 (co-produced by
Mortiz von Oswald) has been remixed by Convextion and a special package
of the original and the new mix are due to be released on echospace
[detroit].

Ken


-Original Message-
From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 July 2007 14:24
To: Odeluga, Ken
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Justice

No.

On 7/2/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am giving myself an award today.

 Because until a couple of weeks ago when some floodgate opened in the
 heavens on to Great Britain, and in the virtual world into 313, I'd
 never heard of Justice, Ed Banger, and Spank Rock etc. (DJ Funk of
 course is somewhat more well-established.)

 Two weeks later I still have not heard of these people, nor any of
their
 music and by the look of the discussion about it, I think I'm
 grateful!

 But am I gob-smackingly out of touch?

 K

Re: (313) Shake

[Aidan O'Doherty]

that's the first criticism of shake, as a producer or a dj, that i've
ever come across. you're a brave man.

On 05/06/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Im one of Shake's biggest fans but even I could not enjoy myself at his
set. 1st of all i heard the same exact set played by him a year ago at an
after party at olslo's. no kidding it was the same for sure. the only
difffrence was instead of juggiling two copies of the pace he juggled
phillips track last time.
and i don't mind the trainwrecks if the songs are good. they were good the
year before. boring this year.
And if you are asked to play a major festival please familarize yourself
with the mixer you will be playing with. shake looked confused and should
not have tried playing with the onboard effects if he didn't know how.
Let the hating begin!
Anthony



On Sat, June 2, 2007 8:59 am, Ramon Crespo wrote:
 I really enjoyed what I hearrd from Shake at the festival. I was only
 there for 30-45 minutes , but i definitely see why you all praise
 him. I danced danced !! :)

 We really need to try to have some sort of official meet up next
 year. :(

 I did meet some cool folks from London @ Submerge though. It's
 amazing how the europeans appreciate this so much than some of the
 americans.

 Regards,
 Ramon


 On Jun 1, 2007, at 4:02 PM, Terry Hall wrote:

 My pleasure, I also echo others comments about the festival - more
 fun than anything else - I'm still trying to catch up on sleep! G

 -peace, T63

 On May 30, 2007, at 10:54 PM, theREALmxyzptlk wrote:

 Thanks for posting that. Likewise to Tom who said something
 similar (maybe offlist).
 I know you're lurking, Tony.
 You do something beyond slick mechanics; it's a gift and it's yours.

 jeff


 Terry Hall wrote:
 Regarding Shake's performance - I think it just shows that
 really  solid tracks and an extremely personable DJ are important
 performance  skills. I was standing 2' from him and we were all
 having a great  time. His irreverent style and ability to emanate
 a good vibe seemed  more important to the performance than
 technical wizardy without  feeling. That was my take-away,
 something I'm going to remember next  time I start stressing over
 a missed transition that everyone will  forget about the next
 day.  Thank you Shake, someone who remembers  how to party!
 -peace, T63

(313) clear remixed

[Aidan O'Doherty]

http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=8681

Re: (313) What disco record was sampled for Carl craig The CLimax

[Aidan O'Doherty]

afaicr (haven't listened to love thang in a long time), when i first
heard it i put the two together - and i'm usually rubbish at such
things. can't remember whether it's in the intro or not, but there's a
part where it is blindingly obvious - great bit of sampling.

On 02/05/07, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 wow, i love that record but i wouldnt have been able to tell you thats
 what it was by listening to the climax.

yeah I was about to say the same thing

interesting.

robin...

Re: (313) New ERP on Frantic Flowers

[Aidan O'Doherty]

oh happy days, was wondering when franctic flowers would deliver.
seems an age since last realease.

On 15/03/07, Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It's dropped, at least at Juno. Y'all will recognise some of this from his
live PAs.

Anyone know when the Theo Parrish album is due?

Tristan
===
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.phonopsia.co.uk

Re: (313) Your favorite CD only compilations/mixes

[Aidan O'Doherty]

http://www.discogs.com/release/32144

the claude young mix is great.

On 08/03/07, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 7 Mar 2007, at 20:02, Matt Kane's Brain wrote:

 1.) Not this listy, but my favorite is Coldcut vs. DJ Food vs. DJ
 Krush's 2 CD set Cold Krush Cuts


Seconded, the Krush mix CD on that is awesome!

Re: (313) mad mike interview link

[Aidan O'Doherty]

you'll have to explain this message, r3dshift. it's a bit too cryptic
for my feeble brain.

thanks,
aidan

On 14/02/07, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

google pay for play.

you might learn something.

careful on the replies though tom, this email is the hook, and your reply is
the bite.
- Original Message -
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: (313) mad mike interview link


 On 2/13/07, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 americans are one big flock of sheep, with pop culture playing the part
 of
 the shepherd.

 think

 if you want to make a third grade argument out of it, maybe.
 otherwise, until you prove to me that americans developed all those
 styles of music amongst other things by being sheep, good luck with
 that one. try it on an 8 year old instead!

 tom

Re: (313) Carl Craig tracks I don't know (from Pacou mix)

[Aidan O'Doherty]

jeepers, got a link to the mix?

On 14/02/07, Ben Britz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 T.Brookes+A.Soul - City LIfe (Craigs Caya Dub) -RushHour
 Carl Craig - 4 My Peepz-planet e
 Carl Craig - Darkness/ Angel-planet e
 Johnny L - This Time (Craig Mix) - XL
 Paperclip People - Throw-planet e
 Quadrant - Infinition(Craig MIx)-planet e
 Psyche-Andromeda(Craig Mix)-Transmat
 SpaceTime Continuum - Kairo Craig Remix-Reflective
 Designer Music Vol 1-problemz-planet e
 Dave Angel - Take Off (Craig Mix)-Blunted
 Psyche-Elements-Planet e
 Remake (eich me son sche)-planet e
 Carl Craig vs. Johnny Blas - Picadillo 7-ubiquity
 Paperclip People-Steam - Open
 Inner City - Goodlife (Craig Mix) - Pias
 Ultramarine - Hooter(Craig Rmx)-Real Soon
 Carl Craig - Technology-planet e
 Carl Craig-Climax(reworked)-Open
 Chez Damier - Help Myself (Craig Mix)-KMS
 69-rushed-planet e/ R+S
 Reese Project - I Believe(Craig Dub)-Giant/ Warner
 BFC-Static Friendly-Fragile
 Designer Music Vol. 1 - Good Girls-planet e
 UFO - The Planet Plan (Craig Mix) - talkin loud
 Paperclip People - Floor - planet e
 Designer Music Vol 1 - Latin Chic behind door#1-planet e
 Innerzone Orchestra - nitwit-planet e
 Paperclip People - Paperclip Man- Open
 69 - Extraterrestial Raggabeats - planet e
 Innerzone Orchestra-Bug In the Bassbin - planet e
 Carl Craig - No more Words - retroactive
 BFC - Sleep - beechwood

On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Title says it all really.

 I've said on this list before I seem to spend all my time listening to clips of 
new 12s at record shop sites.  Often with little
 reward as there doesn't seem that much good new stuff out to justify doing 
that, instead of what I should be, which is:

 1.  Listening to the good records I did actually buy but am too busy 
listening to clips of more stuff to have actually played.

 2.  Listening to mixes I'd enjoy - and which when I actually do I generally 
get more exposure to good records I haven't heard and
 should set about buying (albeit 2nd hand and a bit harder to track down) than 
I do from shops.

 So the only time I seem to do 2 above is when I'm on holiday.  After a month 
in Cuba last year I found a load of stuff I want to
 know about off those Deep Space Radio shows from a bit back.  I came on here 
and said I'd cut and post clips.  But surprise,
 surprise as soon as I'm back in the UK working, going out and listening to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] shop's mailouts I've no time.  Now I've come back
 from a month in Brazil with more stuff I've heard on my mp3 player and want 
to know what it is and buy!

 My only hope in the most pressing of these cases, 2 tracks from a mix of C2 stuff by 
Pacou called Pacou_-_CarlCraigWorks, is that
 rather than me having to get round to posting clips someone else knows this 
mix (I can't remember if I got it off here or somewhere
 else) and can tell me what the tracks at about 53 and 58 mins are.  They sandwich 
one of the well known 69 tracks from RS (though I
 can't remember which one now) which is on around 55 mins.  Anyone got a 
tracklist for this mix?  I was frightened when I listened to
 it as I went in thinking oh yeah I'll know everything on this since I'm a C2 
man but it'll be nice to lay in this hammock listening
 to one classic after another only to find quite a few I didn't know.  The 
two I'm after are hot.

Re: FW: (313) Carl Craig tracks I don't know (from Pacou mix)

[Aidan O'Doherty]

no probs, everyone does that. at least you didn't call me aids. thanks
for the mix!

On 14/02/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sorry Aidan I meant Aidan not Adrian  ;-)

Re: (313) mad mike interview link

[Aidan O'Doherty]

pic reminds me of springfield's monorail

On 13/02/07, Cliff Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Everybody in Detroit knows the bus system and the peoplemover is a sad joke. It 
originally was supposed to go all the way down to New Center and back which 
would have really helped pull at least the center of the city together but who 
in the hell knows what happened to all that money. It only goes in a one mile 
circle around downtown which is absolutely useless considering that most of the 
people that work downtown commuter there by car. This city government is 
absolutely corrupt, the mentality of the streets goes all the way to the top. 
Mike is 100% on the money with that statement.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) mad mike interview link
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:47:48 +
It would be great if the people mover actually moved people
places. It
looks ace.
http://www.thepeoplemover.com/
robin...
Toby Frith wrote:
 This line I thought was the most pertinent in the whole
interview.

 We need our city and manufacturing leaders to travel
overseas and to realize what
 Mass Transit means to a city. We don`t have it and we have
land locked communities,
 with land locked thoughts and values. There is no interaction
unless
you have the
 luxury of a car which a lot of people can`t afford. The
situation is grey.

Re: (313) mad mike interview link

[Aidan O'Doherty]

he makes some interesting points about why dance music is dada in
states. i would not have considered blaming european labels for the
failure of house/techno to take hold in america.

if house/techno had not exploded in uk/europe when it did, and the
artists had stayed in their home towns, would the situation be
radically different today? or was it always destined to be
marginalised?

if the likes of virgin had made a concerted effort to market the music
in america, would it have more of a following now?

was this http://www.discogs.com/release/65112 released in the states?




On 12/02/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

don't know if it was posted before

for all UR chobo's around

http://www.de-bug.de/texte/4639.html

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

[Aidan O'Doherty]

i'm confused. where does girl talk come in to the equation?


On 06/02/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Girl Talk! He rox! Fun DJ.

i couldnt disagree more vehemently. he makes me feel ill. in fact,
that guy is a tool and is one of the things i hate more about
pittsburgh's hipster music scene.

tom

(313) common factor guilty pleasures mix

[Aidan O'Doherty]

Nick Calingaert (Common Factor, Soma, Planet E, Playhouse)

http://www.r-n-d.net/fileadmin/audio/mixes/CFAC%20Guilty%20Pleasures%20Vol%202.mp3


i know this has been posted before, but, if anyone missed it, here it
is again. now, can anyone id any of the tracks? or does anyone have a
complete tracklisting?

i recognise nothing, nada, zip, zilch, zero.

thanks,
aidan

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

[Aidan O'Doherty]

for 'enhancements' read increased admission fee. if an event attracted
over a people first time around, surely sponsors would be throwing
money at it? how could something so good go so horribly wrong?

aidan

On 02/02/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

enhancements, eh? is this new coke?!??!?!

tom

On 2/1/07, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070131/ENT04/70131052/0/ENT04
 - Original Message -
 From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:49 PM
 Subject: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!


  so whats going on? they supposedly did alright last year and have had
  since june to get it together. its now february, the festival is under
  5 months away and nothing yet. WHY
 
  tom

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

[Aidan O'Doherty]

DEMF 2000: 1.1 to 1.5 million  (over-estimated)
DEMF 2001: 1.7 million
DEMF 2002: 1.7 million
Movement 2003: 630,000
Movement 2004: 150,000
Fuse-In 2005: 44,920


On 02/02/07, Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

for 'enhancements' read increased admission fee. if an event attracted
over a people first time around, surely sponsors would be throwing
money at it? how could something so good go so horribly wrong?

aidan

On 02/02/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 enhancements, eh? is this new coke?!??!?!

 tom

 On 2/1/07, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070131/ENT04/70131052/0/ENT04
  - Original Message -
  From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:49 PM
  Subject: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!
 
 
   so whats going on? they supposedly did alright last year and have had
   since june to get it together. its now february, the festival is under
   5 months away and nothing yet. WHY
  
   tom
 
 

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

[Aidan O'Doherty]

if they got they're act together, then they'd have bigger influx of
foreigners. surely they sould have been planning it the day the last
event finished. lock down artists early. now is when line-up needs to
be released. i probably wouldn't bother with main event, especially if
the line-up bears any resemblance to last year's.

wish i'd gone to the actual demfs.

On 02/02/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is the main reason why I've never gone Robin. Unfortunately, some
of us aren't able to drop everything on a month-to-six weeks notice and
go to Detroit for a few days. Love to go, but that's the reality.

-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 February 2007 11:14
To: Matt Chester
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!


i'm thinking of coming over this year too. i wish they'd sort this
earlier in the year to allow overseas people organise travel plans
properly too.

robin...

Matt Chester wrote:
 So what do people there recommend for any of us thinking of coming
 over?  I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to finally drag myself
out
 this year, dunno if it's going to be a big disappointment or if all
the
 afterparties and other goings on will more than make up for any
lameness
 at the main event?

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

[Aidan O'Doherty]

hard to believe that a modern metropolis doesn't try to tap in to
tourism. detroit has its selling points, doesn't it?

On 02/02/07, Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

if they got they're act together, then they'd have bigger influx of
foreigners. surely they sould have been planning it the day the last
event finished. lock down artists early. now is when line-up needs to
be released. i probably wouldn't bother with main event, especially if
the line-up bears any resemblance to last year's.

wish i'd gone to the actual demfs.

On 02/02/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is the main reason why I've never gone Robin. Unfortunately, some
 of us aren't able to drop everything on a month-to-six weeks notice and
 go to Detroit for a few days. Love to go, but that's the reality.

 -Original Message-
 From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 02 February 2007 11:14
 To: Matt Chester
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!


 i'm thinking of coming over this year too. i wish they'd sort this
 earlier in the year to allow overseas people organise travel plans
 properly too.

 robin...

 Matt Chester wrote:
  So what do people there recommend for any of us thinking of coming
  over?  I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to finally drag myself
 out
  this year, dunno if it's going to be a big disappointment or if all
 the
  afterparties and other goings on will more than make up for any
 lameness
  at the main event?

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

[Aidan O'Doherty]

it's not loaded, although i certainly wish i was. right now. three
sheets to the wind.

On 02/02/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is that a loaded question? ;-)


-Original Message-
From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 February 2007 11:31
To: Odeluga, Ken
Cc: robin; Matt Chester; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

hard to believe that a modern metropolis doesn't try to tap in to
tourism. detroit has its selling points, doesn't it?

On 02/02/07, Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 if they got they're act together, then they'd have bigger influx of
 foreigners. surely they sould have been planning it the day the last
 event finished. lock down artists early. now is when line-up needs to
 be released. i probably wouldn't bother with main event, especially if
 the line-up bears any resemblance to last year's.

 wish i'd gone to the actual demfs.

 On 02/02/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This is the main reason why I've never gone Robin. Unfortunately,
some
  of us aren't able to drop everything on a month-to-six weeks notice
and
  go to Detroit for a few days. Love to go, but that's the reality.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 02 February 2007 11:14
  To: Matt Chester
  Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!
 
 
  i'm thinking of coming over this year too. i wish they'd sort this
  earlier in the year to allow overseas people organise travel plans
  properly too.
 
  robin...
 
  Matt Chester wrote:
   So what do people there recommend for any of us thinking of coming
   over?  I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to finally drag
myself
  out
   this year, dunno if it's going to be a big disappointment or if
all
  the
   afterparties and other goings on will more than make up for any
  lameness
   at the main event?
 

Re: (313) techno w/flecks of jazz

[Aidan O'Doherty]

nubian mindz album on archive, http://www.discogs.com/release/4822

this is a good comp: http://www.discogs.com/release/90898

max brennan album: http://www.discogs.com/release/80066


On 02/02/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Happy Friday everyone!

Doing a bit o'shopping and I'd like some suggestions.  Would like to find
some deep melodic techno stuff - Delsin, Arne, etc. with some jazz
influences - O'Brien, As One, etc.
Something overlooked or not on a label that usually does that?  Anything
that combines electro with jazz without being electro-jazz?  Faster but
slower? ;-)

I've got MONEY people!  Help me spend it!

MEK

(313) monday messin'

[Aidan O'Doherty]

surgeon gets all festive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unSrLgoWq8Emode=relatedsearch=

Re: (313) All the best...

[Aidan O'Doherty]

same to you, from me, and to all the other goofballs that make up this
list. happy holidays!

all the best,
aidan

ps where are the top 10s for 2006? i want to know what i've been missing out on.


On 22/12/06, Blaauw, Martijn de [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Happy christmas and all the best for 2007 (and beyond) for all u peeps
on the 313-list!

Regards,

Martijn

Re: (313) Berlin techno doc Feiern

[Aidan O'Doherty]

reason for grumpiness - he's approaching middle age (like most on this
list it seems)

On 14/12/06, Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

He sounds a little bit grumpy about it all to be honest. Berlin's clubbing 
history is utterly decadent so I'm not sure what he is expecting.



-Original Message-
From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 December 2006 22:27
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Berlin techno doc Feiern


should clarify, the 'blissed out in berlin' piece is from irish dance
music journalist richard brophy's blog: http://www.testindustries.com/
(october archives)



On 13/12/06, Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 heard  and then promptly forgot about it, here's where i learnt about
 its existence:

 http://www.testindustries.com/

 and the piece from it (october archives):


 Blissed out in Berlin

 I've made my mind up: I don't want to live in Berlin. I had toyed with
 the idea over the past few years because I have a lot of friends and
 connections there, it's a world city with cheap prices and because I
 speak German (blame it on my university degree), but having watched
 the 'Feiern' DVD recently, I decided that to protect my mental and
 physical well being, it would be better not to move to the German
 capital. 'Feiern' (it means 'celebrate' or 'party' in German) is a
 soon to be released documentary about the club/party scene in the city
 and it features interviews with some of the scene's well-known names.
 Villalobos and Luciano come across well enough - although Mr Nicolet
 gives his Chilean compadre a dirty look when he says that partying is
 like being part of a big happy family and why would you need kids?
 (Luciano has two children and is very much a family man); Thilo from
 Groove magazine's contributions about the infamous dark room in the
 Panorama Bar are hilarious, and the story about the gay couple who
 fall in love at a club and don't even notice that the lights are on
 and the music is off is quite cute. Apart from that though, there is
 something depressingly seedy about the rest of the contributors (
 don't get me wrong: I like seediness as much as anyone else, but not
 four days a week). The girl who says that she feels like someone has
 died as people drop off and go home on the third day of non-stop
 partying needs to have a good long think about her life, and the gay
 guy who says he thinks it's cool that all the couches are dirty in the
 Panorama Bar because it makes him feel like a homeless person is funny
 for all the wrong reasons. Most tellingly,  nearly all of the party
 people say that they will never be able to find true, lasting love out
 on the dance floor in Berlin. That claim neatly sums up what's missing
 from the lives laid bare on 'Feiern': nothing is lasting, everything
 is transient. At some stage, the party ends, and as Ewan Pearson
 points out, the most important thing to remember is not to forget to
 go home. Unfortunately, it looks like that message has been lost on
 the motley crew that constitute the cast of 'Feiern'...

 d and then forgot about it:



 On 13/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Anyone seen this? Funny villalobos quote in the trailer.
 
  http://www.feiern-film.de/
 
 


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Re: (313) Berlin techno doc Feiern

[Aidan O'Doherty]

brophy is irish, we are used to our clubs closing just after the
witching hour. the excesses of berlin are a shock to the system. maybe
that's what has him troubled.

his job is as a dance music journalist, so i suppose he has to search
for some meaning.

as to middle age - i feel a bit out of place surrounded by all the
young fillies looking and pointing 'what's grandpa doing here?'. in
dublin, the age demographic in most clubs is young - darn young.
On 14/12/06, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm bemused as it seems he's only discovering that club land is great
fun but not in fact that deep and meaningful!

...forget about trying to tell him its all about mastering the rat in
the recesses of your mind as well as how to dance under the glitter ball
...

(I can't wait to do it in middle age, by the way Aiden ;-)

-Original Message-
From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 December 2006 11:51
To: Aidan O'Doherty; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Berlin techno doc Feiern

He sounds a little bit grumpy about it all to be honest. Berlin's
clubbing history is utterly decadent so I'm not sure what he is
expecting.



-Original Message-
From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 December 2006 22:27
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Berlin techno doc Feiern


should clarify, the 'blissed out in berlin' piece is from irish dance
music journalist richard brophy's blog: http://www.testindustries.com/
(october archives)



On 13/12/06, Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 heard  and then promptly forgot about it, here's where i learnt about
 its existence:

 http://www.testindustries.com/

 and the piece from it (october archives):


 Blissed out in Berlin

 I've made my mind up: I don't want to live in Berlin. I had toyed with
 the idea over the past few years because I have a lot of friends and
 connections there, it's a world city with cheap prices and because I
 speak German (blame it on my university degree), but having watched
 the 'Feiern' DVD recently, I decided that to protect my mental and
 physical well being, it would be better not to move to the German
 capital. 'Feiern' (it means 'celebrate' or 'party' in German) is a
 soon to be released documentary about the club/party scene in the city
 and it features interviews with some of the scene's well-known names.
 Villalobos and Luciano come across well enough - although Mr Nicolet
 gives his Chilean compadre a dirty look when he says that partying is
 like being part of a big happy family and why would you need kids?
 (Luciano has two children and is very much a family man); Thilo from
 Groove magazine's contributions about the infamous dark room in the
 Panorama Bar are hilarious, and the story about the gay couple who
 fall in love at a club and don't even notice that the lights are on
 and the music is off is quite cute. Apart from that though, there is
 something depressingly seedy about the rest of the contributors (
 don't get me wrong: I like seediness as much as anyone else, but not
 four days a week). The girl who says that she feels like someone has
 died as people drop off and go home on the third day of non-stop
 partying needs to have a good long think about her life, and the gay
 guy who says he thinks it's cool that all the couches are dirty in the
 Panorama Bar because it makes him feel like a homeless person is funny
 for all the wrong reasons. Most tellingly,  nearly all of the party
 people say that they will never be able to find true, lasting love out
 on the dance floor in Berlin. That claim neatly sums up what's missing
 from the lives laid bare on 'Feiern': nothing is lasting, everything
 is transient. At some stage, the party ends, and as Ewan Pearson
 points out, the most important thing to remember is not to forget to
 go home. Unfortunately, it looks like that message has been lost on
 the motley crew that constitute the cast of 'Feiern'...

 d and then forgot about it:



 On 13/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  Anyone seen this? Funny villalobos quote in the trailer.
 
  http://www.feiern-film.de/
 
 


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Re: (313) Berlin techno doc Feiern

[Aidan O'Doherty]

i hope it doesn't come to an end soon, toby, i have a taste for more!
didn't think it was in a residential area.

francis, fair play to you. too legit to quit.

aidan

On 14/12/06, Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Berlin's history as a city over the last 100 years or so is the very definition of 
transient so Brophy's remarks seem a little misjudged I think. The most 
interesting aspect of it will be when Berghain/Panorama comes to an end - as I'm sure no 
doubt many residents have had enough of it - that's the Berlin way.

For a city that thrives on reinventing itself consistently, it was remarkable 
that Tresor managed to hang on for 14 years, and is on the verge of reopening.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 December 2006 15:23
To: 313@Hyperreal.Org
Subject: FW: (313) Berlin techno doc Feiern


Well both you (grandpa) and I (43) seem to like it there  ;-)
Though as much as I can handle leaving Berghain on a Sunday afternoon I would 
agree with him that someone who says people leaving
the floor is like someone dying possibly doesn't mean it or hasn't experienced 
that.

 -Original Message-
 From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 14 December 2006 12:42
 To: Odeluga, Ken
 Cc: Toby Frith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) Berlin techno doc Feiern

 brophy is irish, we are used to our clubs closing just after
 the witching hour. the excesses of berlin are a shock to the
 system. maybe that's what has him troubled.

 his job is as a dance music journalist, so i suppose he has
 to search for some meaning.

 as to middle age - i feel a bit out of place surrounded by
 all the young fillies looking and pointing 'what's grandpa
 doing here?'. in dublin, the age demographic in most clubs is
 young - darn young

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(313) anyone ever order from 33-45 record shop in vienna?

[Aidan O'Doherty]

and, if so, have you had any problems with them?

thanks,
aidan

Re: (313) Berlin techno doc Feiern

[Aidan O'Doherty]

heard  and then promptly forgot about it, here's where i learnt about
its existence:

http://www.testindustries.com/

and the piece from it (october archives):


Blissed out in Berlin

I've made my mind up: I don't want to live in Berlin. I had toyed with
the idea over the past few years because I have a lot of friends and
connections there, it's a world city with cheap prices and because I
speak German (blame it on my university degree), but having watched
the 'Feiern' DVD recently, I decided that to protect my mental and
physical well being, it would be better not to move to the German
capital. 'Feiern' (it means 'celebrate' or 'party' in German) is a
soon to be released documentary about the club/party scene in the city
and it features interviews with some of the scene's well-known names.
Villalobos and Luciano come across well enough - although Mr Nicolet
gives his Chilean compadre a dirty look when he says that partying is
like being part of a big happy family and why would you need kids?
(Luciano has two children and is very much a family man); Thilo from
Groove magazine's contributions about the infamous dark room in the
Panorama Bar are hilarious, and the story about the gay couple who
fall in love at a club and don't even notice that the lights are on
and the music is off is quite cute. Apart from that though, there is
something depressingly seedy about the rest of the contributors (
don't get me wrong: I like seediness as much as anyone else, but not
four days a week). The girl who says that she feels like someone has
died as people drop off and go home on the third day of non-stop
partying needs to have a good long think about her life, and the gay
guy who says he thinks it's cool that all the couches are dirty in the
Panorama Bar because it makes him feel like a homeless person is funny
for all the wrong reasons. Most tellingly,  nearly all of the party
people say that they will never be able to find true, lasting love out
on the dance floor in Berlin. That claim neatly sums up what's missing
from the lives laid bare on 'Feiern': nothing is lasting, everything
is transient. At some stage, the party ends, and as Ewan Pearson
points out, the most important thing to remember is not to forget to
go home. Unfortunately, it looks like that message has been lost on
the motley crew that constitute the cast of 'Feiern'...

d and then forgot about it:



On 13/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone seen this? Funny villalobos quote in the trailer.

http://www.feiern-film.de/