Re: (313) OT - techno

2003-06-27 Thread Peter Leidy

 I can't reccomend homestarrunner.com enough. those guys are brilliant. 
 They're starting to gain a lot of popularity...I've seen 14 year old girls 
 wearing homestar shirts. they mentioned some homestar characters in the last 
 episode of buffy the vampire slayer...i didn't see it, a friend told me. But, 
 anyways, everyone should watch strong bad email. The techno one is really the 
 only one relevant to us here, but they are all hilarious. every monday there 
 are new cartoons.


Sorry to keep the OT post alive, but I can also attest to the growing
popularity in many non-tech-savvy circles. My 12 year old brother has
two Strong Bad t-shirts, and one of my friend's 50-year old father walks
around talking like Strong Bad, apparently its big w/ high school kids all
over too. Interesting to see internet-geek-humor-culture finding its way
into the rest of society.. Strong Bad is awesome by the way - personal
favorite episodes = comic, band names, japanese cartoon, techno, etc,
etc..

getting back to 313,
What techno is coming up for Taste of Detroit next week?

-p




Re: (313) Another Drexciya Gem: Clarence G.-Hyperspace Sound Lab

2003-06-24 Thread Peter Leidy

 According to the mp3 tag it was released on Flourescent Forest Records in 
 1991.
 Does somebody have some more info about this record?
 And is it really James Stinson rapping on 2 tracks? Or is it (for me the
 unknown ) rapper Clarence G.?

All the rapping is by Clarence G. - Good luck finding a vinyl copy. BMG is
the only person I know that owns it, and I recall him saying Shake was the
only other person he knew of w/ a copy..

nice record though :)

p



Re: (313) Ulrich Schnauss

2003-06-23 Thread Peter Leidy
 good. I may get lots of personal attacks for this but I do think his
 stuff is slightly over rated. I think the music is just a bit too nice
 for my particular taste. I have far away trains passing and A Strangely
 Isolated Place, both are good but not as good as many people make out IMHO.

I have far away trains and a few singles  I'm w/ you. I think his
melodies and synth work are really great - reminds me a little of some old
4AD stuff. But his beats are really cold, thin, simple, and overly
quantized for my taste (in general.. although i've heard exceptions on a
few standout tracks). They sound like cheap casio wannabe hip-hop beats or
something... kinda ruins it for me - either stick with 4-4 beats or get
some really well produced broken stuff, but half-assed break beats are
weak..

p



RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)

2003-06-13 Thread Peter Leidy

 that's the stupid thing about revivals - it's very contrived, like the
 recent electro revival of the last several years. Why the fashion and
 focus on those years? To be into the music, why do people feel that they
 have to dress up in the fashion of the era it was created in?

While revivals get caught up in nostalgia, fashion, etc.. I think the
electroclash/new wave revival is in a class of it's own in this regard.
Because much of the synth-punk/new-wave scene of the 80's and of today
is/was about the insignificance of music (and of everything). fashion
becomes sort of a punck-rock statement, and is in many ways as important
as the music itself .. at least in theory .. i never gave a crap about
anything besides the music, but that's why i'm a music geek instead of a
scenester...

I think something like acid house isn't as much entwined with any visual
aesthetics or fashion (at least in the US scene, maybe different for the
UK scene)- it was more about dancing than anything else.. and if an acid
house revival means all the lame-asses around here will start dancing
again, then bring it on :)!



RE: (313) Track id

2003-05-16 Thread Peter Leidy

 Soul Saver is also available as a 12 on SID-006.. Great track.  Anyone
 know the song that the main loop is sampled from?  It's sped up quite a

isn't that from an al green song? can't recall at the moment..

p


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 On Fri, 16 May 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  does anybody know a track with a male voice repeating: I'm the
  soulshaker followed by some sort of horn-sound, heard Laurent Garnier

  play it some years ago!

 Hmmm... Could it be Soul Saver by Gerald (or is it Gerard?) Mitchell
 which
 appears on the Interstellar Fugitives 3xEP produced by UR? There's a
 vocal
 line which repeats I'm the Soul Saver and something like Get on the
 dance floor, let me see you shake that/your booty.

 http://www.undergroundresistance.com/ammo_i_045.html
 (Weird that it isn't listed on this www-page because I have the record
 at
 home and have been playing it from time to time... :)

 I don't remember any horn samples on that track, though, but Garnier
 could
 be mixing them in from another record. Very good, tight and funky track
 indeed, in my opinion. :)



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Re: (313) Swedish Techno/ was Every Dog 4

2003-05-12 Thread Peter Leidy
 If you think about it what percentage of techno from Sweden really fit's
 under
 definition #2?
 As for the sound becoming more formulaic maybe you could be more specific
 listing artist and labels other than Adam Bayer, Drumcode.

My second and final post on the subject as your reply is boderline
flame-bait - if you read my post more carefully, I never implied that
def#2 held a sizeable portion of swedish techno as a whole - merely that
because enough similar records came out, that people eventually referred
to that particular style as swedish techno.

nor did i say that adam beyer strictly produces this style of techno (as
indirectly implied by your post)- but a portion of his releases do fall
into this category and were instrumental in the formation of the
sub-genre.

you asked for some other names and labels - i may not be the best person
to ask since i never really got into the style except for some of the
earlier material - some of the Code Red records. Earlier Hybrid records
are excellent, but after the first 30 or so releases, Hybrid and Lekebush
sort of got into that style. Primate, Drumcode, Thomas Krome, Joel Mull
are some of the big names. I tend to lump Carolla and Zenit with that
sound too even though its a bit different and not even swedish..

again, let me emphasize that i never said this style is bad- I like a lot
of the stuff from the forementioned producers- but it definitely has
become pretty same-ey over the years, so i never felt inclined to buy
any more then the 10 or so records that I had from a few years back..

hope that clarifies what i was getting at. and don't ask me why it gets
hated on - i'm not a hater, i'm just kinda bored of the stuff- a
matter of personal taste..

p



Re: (313) Swedish Techno/ was Every Dog 4

2003-05-10 Thread Peter Leidy

 I have heard a lot of Swedish techno/tech-house that is NOT just 2-beat loops 
 but some quite musical material.  I'm surprised the Swedes get hated on so 
 much.


just a quick note on swedich techno because this topic seems to get folks
talking in circles without really getting anywhere:

I've noticed Swedish Techno has two different meanings in general
conversation:

1. Techno from Sweden - I'm sure nobody will argue that some of this is
quite varied, musical, interesting, etc, etc..

2. A Techno Style characterized by the minimal clubby compositions and
compressed drum sounds for maximum loudness:) This stuff got a lot
of exposure from Swedish Labels/Producers in the late 90's ala Adam Beyer/
Drum Code, etc.. This style is not too varied, and over the last few years
has become even more formulaic that it was in the beginning - hence the
disinterest from some of the 313 community. When referring to Swedish
Techno in this sense- it may or may not actually be coming from Sweden,
and by no means represents all of the techno coming out of Sweden-

I find the second definition more commonly used than the first, but the
context in which it is used usually clarifies the intended definition
quite easily.

I'm guessing this is pretty obvious to most, but in the world of email
groups- continuity of semantics helps keep what little order we have from
becoming total chaos..

p



Re: (313) fix records

2003-05-02 Thread Peter Leidy
 just heard some snippets from fix01 and fix02 (secret mixes and fixes
 vol1 and 2), an ectomorph related label that has edits and rmxs of old
 tracks...totally ace...

 anyone have any more details, are these the only releases so far etc?


Yeah I heard those snippets as well. Todd Osbourne had a hand in getting
these out too. They are more bootlegs than re-edits, only a few small
changes to the originals - so I was a little surpirsed to see brendan (or
perhaps the distributors/shops) putting the ectomorph name on them.

i have advance copies of a couple- the first one has an alternate mix of
land of confusion, i was told it's called confusion's revenge. also
has wee papa girls - heat it up -basically the original, added filtering
on the breakdown. also has an afx acid track thats not too old..

i heard clips of vol 2. and only recognized liaisons- los ninos.. i have
another one that i don't think is out yet which is all pretty much italo
tracks..

p



 cheers


 robin...





RE: (313) Online record shopping

2003-03-27 Thread Peter Leidy

 I have always wanted to use nuloop but the totally outrageous shipping cost 
 makes it impossible. I have used groovetech in the past because they have 
 great deals on shipping but if possible i would always support the 
 independents.
 I find these stores have a good selection but i mostly order electro and a 
 bit of older Detroit. I haven't ordered from rushhour but the instore 
 selection of house music is quite tasty.

I've ordered from nuloop to the US, and Shipping didn't end up being too
outrageous from what I remember (it was actually billed as less than
first quoted in the order form). Plus their prices are very reasonable.

One think that really bugged me though- any of the records that come in
plain sleeves (or even just sleeves w/out artwork like Ongaku sleeves) -
they decided it was a good idea to rubber stamp their logo onto the
sleeve. WWW.NULOOP.COM in black ink right on the cardboard. Am I the
only one offended by this ??

-p



Re: (313) Unusual Suspects

2003-02-25 Thread Peter Leidy

 Ha! Your powers have failed. I'll chalk it up overwork. :) This is a trailer
 for a documentary by Chip E on the origin of Chicago house. Looks nice via
 the list of interviewed peoples.


I actually helped Chip on this project a bit while I was in Chicago last
year. He has been doing freelance DVD authoring for a couple years now and
has been doing the Unusual Suspects dvd project in his free time - so it
has taken a while to come together. They set up a few parties in Chicago
last year with performances by the dvd's featured artists to get a lot of
the live footage.

Definitely keep an eye out for it- I'm sure it will be informative since
the goal is to expose the most overlooked/under-represented talents of
early chicago house..

-p




Re: (313) playlists and conversations

2003-02-18 Thread Peter Leidy

 tell me when you need a
 record's date to find it, eg you know the artist, the label, the
 track the ep name but you need the year to actually find
 it

lots of times when you're trying to find a specific pressing of a record.
especially when online shops do not list all the info on a given record
and you have to piece together what they really have from whatever info
they give you. sometimes labels will release alternate tracks on
different pressings of a record. every little bit of info helps when
you're looking for a specific song..

my 0.02
but i'll have to agree that this thread needs to die, and sorry for
prolonging the agony

-p



Re: (313) from miami... tune ID request

2003-01-03 Thread Peter Leidy


 I used to have it writen down somewhere but i've since lost that piece of
 paper..

 I can't recall what song/ label/ ep this tune is from, but the lyrics have
 this 'from miami.. to brooklyn'

Gosub - Miami to Brooklyn - Isophlux Records

-p



RE: (313) books on techno: more brilliant than the sun

2002-11-25 Thread Peter Leidy
 Neil Wallace:
 Ive always avoided this book as ive seen kodwo on a few music
 documentaries and he always seems to be completely up his own a$$

I attended a guest lecture by Kodwo last year at the Art Institute of
Chicago. The lecture focused specifically on Herbert's Bodily Functions,
the Matmos Liposuction album, and Bjork's latest work - he used these to
represent the newest incarnation of sample based music and how the role of
samples in music has undergone functional and conceptual rediscovery over
the years with the changing technologies.

All this said, I've always looked at Kodwo as an Art Historian who has
good taste in music - and as such, he does usually spew a lot of sh!t that
is irrelelvant to the music just to reassure him of his own intelligence
(no offense to art historians on the list). But on the other hand, at
least he is spreading interest in good music- he reaches an audience that
would not necessarily be embracing electronic music were it not for the
intellectual discussions that he brings to the table.

peace,

p



Re: (313) Akufen party in the D

2002-10-31 Thread Peter Leidy
I think you may be referring to Dandy Jack. Luciano played first- sort of
a Perlon-on-Coke sound if you ask me. It was alright, but every time it
started getting good, he'd find some way to screw it up.

Akufen played second, which was a letdown for me. He was pretty much
playing entire tracks from his records live on his laptop without much
manipulation, and overall it lacked any serious energy.

I left during Akufen's set but Carlos Souffront said that Dandy Jack came
on after and ripped sh!t up for the lucky people who stuck around- some
serious jackin stuff for the dance floor..too bad i missed it.

p


On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Darren Longton (Marketing) wrote:

 Can anyone tell me who the second live act was at the Akufen party at the 
 works last wknd?  The guy with the longer hair, kind of squinty eyes...who 
 BTW, was one of the first acts I've seen GET DOWN behind a laptop.  His set 
 was ASTONISHING!  Please!...someone clarify.

 Thanks yo!
 d$




Re: (313) is it all over my face

2002-10-08 Thread Peter Leidy

 with the original female vocal. You can fairly easily find the reissue on
 West End that is the male and female vocals.


I have this reissue as well as a Male vocal version on the Nuphonic Loft
Compilation- correct me if i'm wrong, but the male vocal version on the
Loft Comp is different (better in my opinion) than the one on west end-
was there an original pressing for the male vocal version on the loft
comp?

-p



Re: [313] moodymann @ demf2000

2002-08-25 Thread Peter Leidy

05. william devaughn - be thankfull
  
  on wich album and on wich label has this been released?
  

I have what I believe to be the original album - Be Thankful for What
You've Got (the title track is the hit obviously) on Roxbury records circa
1974. The single has been re-released many times and is readily avaliable
in the hot classics series of 12s.


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Re: [313] it´s house!

2002-08-16 Thread Peter Leidy

 The vocals are indeed saying it?s house, it?s house!

 Well.. Ron Hardy used to play an early chicago record from 1984 with these
 vocals..
 just a beat , little B-line.. and the vocals twisted and wrapped ...

 (check this mix by ron hardy.. http://www.deephousepage.com/ron5.ram, it?s
 about 3 quarters in the mix just before time marches on)

 Jeffrey sampled this... but does anyone know what the original is??

 Nobody seems to know.. maybee unreleased?

I'm pretty sure that's Chip E. A few months ago he gave me a CDR of his
stuff- some old, some new, some released, some unreleased- that track is
on the CDR, but there's no info and not even any titles.

You might try asking somewhere on www.housenation.com - Chip E helped
start that site with a few others, I'm sure they've got forums on there
somewhere..

pete


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RE: [313] can you post this to the 313 list... ?

2002-08-13 Thread Peter Leidy

 everyone, go round to Channel four and ask for Robert Taylor and then follow
 him home and take what is his and make it yours cos after all There is a
 school of thought that once a piece of work is in the public
 domain it belongs to everyone.


alright, i know you're joking here, but just wanted to clarify because I
think there is a case to be made for this school of thought.  you are
talking about stealing someone's personal belongings- this has always been
against the law and has nothing to do with copyright issues. the issue is
when created works are distributed to the public, how the public is
allowed to use those works.

there is a good 30 min speech wrapped in an 8meg flash file by Lawrence
Lessig (author and Stanford Law Professor) promoting this school of
thought here:
http://randomfoo.net/oscon/2002/lessig/

and more info on what Lessig is up to at
http://lessig.org

Regarding the Beastie Boys thing- I agree with the last few posts- there
may be nothing wrong with their use of the work in a new and (arguably)
original context- but they should have at least given credit to the
author. I think many hip hoppers have a sort of hypocritical stance on
sampling. They advocate it, but at the same time don't want to reveal
their sources for fear of other hip hoppers swiping the same loops or
discovering the secret weapons of their record collection :)

pete

 yipee!



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  the point is that james newton created
 the original piece; it's his work, so he has the right to do with it what HE

 wants.
 Does he really have that right?
 There is a school of thought that once a piece of work is in the public
 domain it belongs to everyone.

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Re: [313] cristian vogel

2002-08-09 Thread Peter Leidy

 and what is this 'no futures' board? anyplace that has vogel posting is
 something i want to rcheck out.

cristian is one of the admins on the forum at http://www.no-future.com

a lot of others on the forum from germany and europe, mostly discussing
the far out  stuff from the like of vogel, landstrumm, tarrida, si begg,
etc..

def. worth keeping an eye on from time to time..

p



 On Tue, 6 Aug 2002, Ben Goldberger wrote:

  relevant quote from Cristian Vogel from no-future message board dated
  August 1, 2002:
 
  ...since those early days, I believe in UR, as an inspirational musical
  force and a significant and authentic factor in the survival and
  development of independent music. I prize my Detroit electronic music
  collection above some of the others, not because the critics or the
  magazines say that its cool, but because some of those records have the
  amorphous magic , dusty roots and maverick attitudes that I crave in techno
  music...
 
  And, just for the record, I have NEVER played in Detroit , although its
  been reported to us that some promoters over the past ten years have
  falsely claimed to have brought me over ... I would love to play there
  someday but I am just waiting to be invited to the right party at the right
  time.
 
 
 
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[313] Tresor Club might stay open

2002-06-25 Thread Peter Leidy
Someone recently posted the thing about Tresor closing. Well looks like
there's more to the story as of last week. Quoted below from
no-future.com, and theres more on the Tresor site forum, but its in german
:(

[quote]
tresor probably won't sleep that much in the next couple years...

that have been kinda great news today: according to german political
magazine 'DER SPIEGEL', the german government is involved in a bad scandal
about the area of the old wertheim bank, which was owned by the jewish
wertheim family before the nazis came up. it seems that german government
sold the area without being the real owner of it. spiegel magazine said,
that now the jewish claim conference fights against german government and
otherwise. this means that the new owner will probably stop all
construction plans promptly and tresor might remain on the old place until
everything is sorted out. that are pretty much mindblowing news for
us...last week we received the cancellation of our contract scheduled
for end of august.

check the forum at www.tresorberlin.de (click: Net  Network  Forum) for
any news. I've posted some useful links (in german only) and will also
upload a more detailed statement regarding all the closing rumours to the
tresor.club section in a few days.
[/quote]


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Re: [313] John Tejada

2002-06-21 Thread Peter Leidy

  Just noticed that @ #1 in the Groovetech Top20 is John Tejada  Arian
 Leviste's 'Its Only Music'.

 Possibly because it's released on... Groovetech Records!


I had assumed looking at their regular top20 lists that their label would
lots of mediocre club crap, but I have been pleasantly surprised at the
quality of the Groovetech releases. The Swayzak mix comp (unmixed 2x12)
had some great dubby stuff from Convextion (one of the tektite tracks),
Akufen, CiM, etc. and other GT releases from Tejada, Dan Curtin, hmmm..

p


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Re: [313] Plastic Jacket Sleeved

2002-06-14 Thread Peter Leidy
I've bought the clear plastic sleeves that fit around the outside of a
cardboard sleeve from Dusty Groove in Chicago - $10 for 100 of them

http://www.dustygroove.com

-p


On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, SOS wrote:

 Does anyone have a good lead/price on plastic jacket sleeves...
 If you can give a general price if you have one for 500 - 1000 pieces...

 Peace


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[313] Tues-6/11, Chicago, Me :)

2002-06-10 Thread Peter Leidy

brief shameless self promotion:

For those in Chicago,
I'll be dj'ing techno and electro tomorrow night.
Free, low key, one of the few techno nights in housetown.

illmeasures presents OUTLET,
Tuesdays at Big Wig (Ashland and Division),
Tue 6-11-02:
Pete Leidy  Resident Sinjin
21+ w/ID, no cover

Sorry bout that,
back to the music, weepy techno and whatnot..

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Re: Re[2]: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry....

2002-06-07 Thread Peter Leidy



 For me it's Inspiration, the title track of the first Stasis album on 
 Peacefrog (PF028)...
 shivers down my spine every time I hear it.

i'll second this track,

just pulled this out yesterday for the first time in months, but i think
i'm gonna have to keep it out for a while..

-p



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RE: [313] Re: electro is trendy

2002-06-06 Thread Peter Leidy

 I would definitely advise you to aim for the lower numbers rather than
 higher. From around vol 6 or so they started to go slightly bad, and the
 latter volumes are better defined as early hip-hop than electro, imho! But
 volumes 1-4, and the Crucial Electro spinoff, are well worth getting, with
 classics like Clear, The Smurf, Electric Kingdom, Hip Hop Be Bop all

sorry, late on this thread, but i just wanted to say that some of the
later numbers as well as the  Crucial Electro ones were sort of more
interesting for me. I already have a lot of the classics, but when you get
into the later stuff there are some great gems that you wouldnt normally
think to listen to.. so dont pass on them without a listen.

p


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Re: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin?

2002-06-05 Thread Peter Leidy

  The fact is, he played very little 140bpm boom-boom-boom

 Which must have been the hour-or so that I caught. Around 4:30 - 6am.

I was speaking w/ a hawtin fan about his recent tendencies toward
hard repetitive stuff- and they were trying to tell me that he uses the
hard stuff to weed people out of the crowd early on- for instance,
playing hard banging stuff so that the only people who stay are those that
want to just dance to anything and let the dj control them- then after an
hour or two he gets into funkier and more fun stuff. i cant really comment
because the last couple times i've seen him - i did leave within the first
hour :) anyone have any thoughts on this idea?

ps- my two cents: hawtin has demonstrated great skills, concepts and
innovations consistently over the years in terms of musical output and
production techniques, but as far as music at parties, i much prefer the
'93 - '96 hawtin than anything i've heard recently.

pete

  Please don't speak about partys you did not attend.

 Sorry, I *was* in attendance for a portion of the night.  Not my cup of tea
 anymore, but he was obviously having a great time, and the crowd (what I
 could see of them) dug it.

 Perspective helps.  If Richie held a control party every weekend in a new
 city, I'd worry about his sanity, ears, and liver.  But this was a chance to
 go over the top.  I'm looking forward to his next release, just to see if he
 can sucessfully develop beyond the DE9 concept...
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Re: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin?

2002-06-05 Thread Peter Leidy

 I can't speak for 93-95, but I remeber seeing Hawtin for the first time in
 96 and being disturbed at how minimal it was. Being new to the music I
 found that boring. Of course, stating that anything was better back then
 is rather obvious.


yeah, with most developing scenes, younger = better about 90 percent of
the time :) i hate sounding so old and nostalgic, but sometimes can't help
myself.

also, regarding the older richie parties, i too was younger and knew
little about the music at the time- but his parties seemed more like a
musical rollercoaster back then, now they are a little closer to a musical
amtrack. but hey, thats my rather uneducated  opinion speaking on the
recent parties that I rarely attend, so i should probably shut up and go
back to reminiscing about the good old days or something :)




 On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Peter Leidy wrote:

 
The fact is, he played very little 140bpm boom-boom-boom
  
   Which must have been the hour-or so that I caught. Around 4:30 - 6am.
 
  I was speaking w/ a hawtin fan about his recent tendencies toward
  hard repetitive stuff- and they were trying to tell me that he uses the
  hard stuff to weed people out of the crowd early on- for instance,
  playing hard banging stuff so that the only people who stay are those that
  want to just dance to anything and let the dj control them- then after an
  hour or two he gets into funkier and more fun stuff. i cant really comment
  because the last couple times i've seen him - i did leave within the first
  hour :) anyone have any thoughts on this idea?
 
  ps- my two cents: hawtin has demonstrated great skills, concepts and
  innovations consistently over the years in terms of musical output and
  production techniques, but as far as music at parties, i much prefer the
  '93 - '96 hawtin than anything i've heard recently.
 
  pete
  
Please don't speak about partys you did not attend.
  
   Sorry, I *was* in attendance for a portion of the night.  Not my cup of 
   tea
   anymore, but he was obviously having a great time, and the crowd (what I
   could see of them) dug it.
  
   Perspective helps.  If Richie held a control party every weekend in a 
   new
   city, I'd worry about his sanity, ears, and liver.  But this was a chance 
   to
   go over the top.  I'm looking forward to his next release, just to see if 
   he
   can sucessfully develop beyond the DE9 concept...
   --
   im
  
  
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Re: [313] Packard Building (OT, kind of)

2002-05-30 Thread Peter Leidy

 I remember going there in the middle of winter with those big space heater
 cannons... Waiting outside in the rain to get in while Carl Craig was

Yeah- I was there one time in subzero weather, but it was like 80+ degrees
on the dancefloor- I stepped outside to get some air and got an instant
nosebleed from the temperature drop- ouch!

lots of great memories too though :)

p

 playing live inside. Richie's parties, the Poorboys...

 What a place...

 At 07:32 PM 5/29/2002 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Spastik, the first ever Plastikman live show, was there.
 ...get everyone in, lock the gates, GO.
 there's subsequently a track on Artifakts called 'Pakard'.
 
 At 5:44 PM -0400 5/29/02, :P wrote:
 wasnt that the venue for a couple plastikman PAs back in the 90s?
 
 (I missed those times narrowly)
 
 -Joe
 
 
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   Does anyone have any URL's that talk about the packard in Detroit? I am
   intrigued by this building and would like to know more. I couldn't find
   anything re: a google search. One of the rumors i heard over the weekend
 was
   that someone just bought it because they heard it was being knocked
 down...
   also if anyone has any pictures of old flyers from any UR parties they 
  had
   there, that would be excellent.
 
   Thanks for any info,
   -Pete
 
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Re: [313] DEMF sets that you where impressed with

2002-05-29 Thread Peter Leidy

 I also had an amazing time at the Cannonball party this weekend...can anyone
 tell me who it was who played hot on the heels of love by throbbing
 gristle?  My night was kind of mashed together and I can't remember which

That would be Carlos Burt Reynolds Souffront :)

Interdimensional Trans. did a nice job with the party. Not too big, not
too small, most everyone getting into it- oldschool dirty detroit
atmosphere :) derek plaslaiko was dropping the dance classics from old
acid cuts like Land of Confusion to Perlon stuff to the occasional
wince-inducing cuts like Higher State of Consciousness (he pulled it off
as few can). Carlos got a bit more experimental and a bit darker but still
kept the floor dancing, BMG did a laptop-based speed mix of all sorts of
electro, synthpop, and techno classics. Unfortunately had to go to recoup
before traxx and tommie sunshine went on- but the crowd was still dancing
at 4am when I left.

Also - whomever was asking about Luomo at Panacea - I caught the last 45
min of the set and it was pretty nice. A lot like the 12s on Force,
sounded good but was perhaps a bit too low-key for the venue, there were a
number of long breakdowns that left people awkwardly standing around on
the dancefloor. Maybe thats why Rex broke out with the banging techno
afterwards. I was not crazy about the venue either- they did a nice job
remodeling the interior of a lovely building, but the dj/musician area
is on a balcony that is hard to see even from the rest of the balcony, and
the club seems to cater to twenty-something dressed up rich kids. As I was
waiting in line, I hear barbie girl #1 asking barbie girl #2 Who's George
Clinton, Isn't he a country singer or something? :)

Overall, I had tons o fun,
as I'm sure you all did- despite your complaining.

fav's: Herbert, Mad Professor, Stewart Walker, Tejada, Rachmad

-Pete


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Re: [313] metro times article - rant

2002-05-23 Thread Peter Leidy

props to lisa for saying what the other papers cant say due to contractual
obligations or just plain stupidity.

i like this quote from Dan Sordyl because it cuts to the chase of the
matter:

You've got to give Carol Marvin credit for making this happen against all
odds. The first year they pulled this off, she busted her ass to make this
happen. But you can't go alienating the music scene. You can't alienate
the people that have been performing and promoting this music in this city
for years.

I personally dont care if carol is a bitch, if she doesnt pay her phone
bill, if she's out to make a buck- whatever. But when she comes out
of nowhere, takes over something very special and deeply rooted in the
local music community, and then completely disregards the voice of that
community- this is very uncool. i vote for impeachment :)

see y'all in a few days

-p


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Re: [313] if you want the theo remixes of jill scott

2002-04-27 Thread Peter Leidy

 $16.99

 weekend records and soap.  nicest people ever, great store, great soap...I
 can't say enough...

 www.weekendrecordsandsoap.com


Actually Jim only has a few copies left and all were on hold as of this
morning, but is supposed to be getting in 10 more copies or so next week-
just ordered them today when I told him all the 313'ers were freaking out
:)



 hope your day was/is 1/30th as good as mine!

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Re: [313] strange occurence

2002-04-17 Thread Peter Leidy
 i just saw anthony keadis(sp?) of the chili peppers
 wearing a chicks on speed t-shirt at an awards show on
 ESPN.  let this now begin another round of techno
 related sightings in the major media.

it was my understanding that the techno community still labels chicks on
speed as electro-pop. hence, said sighting may receive more groans and
complaints than anything else :) nice trainspotting work though

p


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Re: [313] Advent/ was Woody McBride

2002-04-12 Thread Peter Leidy

 According to the flyer for a party in Cedar Rapids IA this weekend, where
 Woody McBride, the Advent, and THomas Krome are playing
 (http://www.mnvibe.com/events/events/show_event.php?handle=vessels)  the
 new basketball heros has remixes by the Advent/G Flame on it.

Anyone planning on attending the above- be forewarned that Advent is not
showing up to their show in Chicago tonight due to problem with Cisco's
passport or Visa or some crap. Advent probably wont be doing any of their
US tour dates for the next week or two- maybe they'll have their crap
together by the time they come over for demf

p


 should be pretty good if its anything like the original or the first
 remixes.

 -m

  Mr McBride is releasing a new version of Basketball Hero's, and I was
  wondering if anyone has heard it.  Is it a remix, or a totally different
  track with a new title.  I just know that his last release was total crap,
  and wouldn't buy it for any amount of money.  So if someone has any info on
  it, kindly send it my way since Basketball Hero's is a classic Acid track.
 
  peace
 
  Jeff
 
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Re: [313] two ricks

2002-03-29 Thread Peter Leidy



 1 ) I heard Rick Wilhite?s contributions to the three chairs ep?s. I was
 just wondering on wich labels I can find some other Wilhite stuff..

He put out one or two 12s on filth- then the three chairs stuff and the
Godson EP. not sure about anything else but he runs Vibes Record Store on
Livernois in Detroit.


 2) Where is Rick Wade from?


Detroit, Si?

p

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 Maarten



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Re: [313] SID 6

2002-03-21 Thread Peter Leidy
While on the topic of SID,

What is the deal with the one side of SID 6 (not the soul saver side) 
the UR track on the NSC double picture disc? i thought they were
identical, but then noticed some small differences. is this just two
different mixes of the same track?
which came first and why the separate releases?

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Re: [313] nouveau electro vs. broken beat

2002-03-16 Thread Peter Leidy

 My question is - did electro really ever die?
 and my impression was, and i only remember this
 because i was a teen in the '80's, that electro had
 come before techno (proper) and laid the foundation
 for techno - am i wrong about this?

not so much a death- i think it just got overshadowed by its two
followers- hip hop and techno.

 I for one think it's about time electro got the respect
 it's been long overdue (or have i missed something?)


respect is different than popularity. popularity is a mixed blessing in
that it does get more people respecting great music, but it also
usually ends up generating a lot of crap. maybe it's still a good thing
overall, i know there are differing viewpoints- i usually resort to
cynicism :)

-p


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Re: [313] live vs. dj/ electropop

2002-03-16 Thread Peter Leidy
I havent been following this thread too closely- but- I know one of the
big criticisms of live techno is lack of stage presence. Some would
say stage presence is not required when the only goal is to get people
dancing, but people inevitably have expectations and preconceived notions
of what live music is supposed to consist of.

And I just had a thought that perhaps this is another reason why
electro-pop is blowing up- because they always have singers (and often
good-looking women for maximum audience response from predominantly-male
music-geek community - adult, miss kitten, peaches, chix on speed :)

not sure how this factors in tho, because it seems like all the
electro-pop singers are always acting bored and apathetic which is
traditionally not a good formula for maximum stage presence.
hmm..

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Re: [313] nouveau electro vs. broken beat

2002-03-15 Thread Peter Leidy

 i don't understand why all the new-school electro-pop gets so much criticism
 but so much new-school jazz/house/breaks, broken-beat-type stuff passes the
 quality test. i know it all comes down to individual tastes, but it just

I thought this was because new-school electro pop is crossing over to the
indie rock crowd- and has all the makings of an indie rock fad, which in
turn means that the fad will end and people will forget about it.

While the broken beat movement has enjoyed the same fast growing
popularity- the audience is still largely withing the techno-house-idm
camp- so techno headz are not worrying about outside forces controlling
the fate of this music. the only outside attention seems to be coming from
rb and jazz audiences, and it seems to be a bit more modest- i.e. - has
not been turned into a standard formula song structure (at least not as
much as the timbaland breakbeat formula :), has not suffered as many
limited-pressing/status-symbol type releases to promote the hierarchic fad
structure among audiences. Also broken-beat does not suffer the negative
connotations of retro and nostalgia in the same way that electro does.

i'm mostly critical of the electro-pop movement because i think there is a
lot of quality electro/italo that is going to get lost in the sea of
mediocre electro-pop, and will soon go unappreciated because people will
be tired of all things electro.

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Re: [313] nouveau electro vs. broken beat

2002-03-15 Thread Peter Leidy

 outside forces
 ?

there are a lot of kids who think Orgy wrote the song Blue Monday, and
while some might say - so what, music will speak for itself- this sort of
misrepresentation to new audiences affects the growth potential of musical
genres. this is a bit of an extreme example, and complicated because it
enters the realm of mainstream pop. I consider Orgy outside the realm
of electro/new wave, but they are a widespread representation of such
music to a lot of kids.

perhaps outside forces is a poor choice of words- because unless
you are a huge corporation- all the forces that determine your audience
are going to be external, people cannot govern how others will react to
their music- but its easier to keep the spirit of something alive when
there are not people bastardizing it and deciding to capitalize on it for
the sake of money, fame, kitsch, whatever.

p

ps- as you may notice- i'm not very wordly- my world consists of usa and
sometimes canada- hope my references and viewpoints  are
understood/applicable elsewhere as well :)

 
   i don't understand why all the new-school electro-pop gets so much 
   criticism
   but so much new-school jazz/house/breaks, broken-beat-type stuff passes 
   the
   quality test. i know it all comes down to individual tastes, but it just
 
  I thought this was because new-school electro pop is crossing over to the
  indie rock crowd- and has all the makings of an indie rock fad, which in
  turn means that the fad will end and people will forget about it.
 
  While the broken beat movement has enjoyed the same fast growing
  popularity- the audience is still largely withing the techno-house-idm
  camp- so techno headz are not worrying about outside forces controlling
  the fate of this music. the only outside attention seems to be coming from
  rb and jazz audiences, and it seems to be a bit more modest- i.e. - has
  not been turned into a standard formula song structure (at least not as
  much as the timbaland breakbeat formula :), has not suffered as many
  limited-pressing/status-symbol type releases to promote the hierarchic fad
  structure among audiences. Also broken-beat does not suffer the negative
  connotations of retro and nostalgia in the same way that electro does.
 
  i'm mostly critical of the electro-pop movement because i think there is a
  lot of quality electro/italo that is going to get lost in the sea of
  mediocre electro-pop, and will soon go unappreciated because people will
  be tired of all things electro.
 
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Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

2002-03-01 Thread Peter Leidy

First of all, this is one of the most thought-provoking threads I've read
in a while (nit-picking over curse words aside)- I'm glad the opinions are
being voiced and I'd like to hear more from those like Laura who have a
lot of direct industry experience  with these issues.

 firing off cannons.  Recently while watching CNN, there was a news segment
 covering Elton John FLAMING the music industry for lowest common denominator
 marketing.  He said that the good musicians and music were actively being
 passed over in favor of the rubbish msuic the industry was putting out...He

Last night I saw a great PBS special that focused on this same problem of
LCD marketing- but in the realm of Film-Making- its called The Monster
that ate Hollywood. There are tons of interviews with industry analysts,
journalists, producers and directors up on their site at:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/hollywood/

I think these issues of Pop Culture, Global Economy, LCD Marketing, etc.
are common across the various realms of Arts  Entertainment  similar
things are happening in each field right now from an economic standpoint.

In terms of dance music getting serious attention-
I think the problem with house and techno is that there is not a good
stereotype of techno producer to market to teenage kids. I think the Major
Labels like to market stereotypes of Rebellious, Subversive, Cool, and
more recently pop-conscious-satiric characters that middle-class suburban
teens can relate to. The problem with house and techno is that when you
look for stereotypes- you have the gay club scene, the middle to lower
class minorities- but without the hip-hop egos and fashion, then also the
computer and synth geeks, none of which are sexy or cool to todays
teenagers. But when the London Rave scene appeared- here was something
more marketable- white kids sneaking out at night, taking drugs, and
partying to rave music, not to mention new marketable fashion trends to go
along with it. And of course, once they found something marketable, they
further bastardized the music into formulated candy-coated crap, just as
they did with disco 25 years ago.

PS- I'm not even going to bring up the race issue- a whole other can of
worms- but I agree that the race card is not over-used- it is still a
serious problem with deep roots in the social and political policies that
govern our country. People need to be aware of this especially as it
becomes more subtle and disguised by other issues.

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RE: [313] Hype, Marketing, and BS (was The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT...

2002-03-01 Thread Peter Leidy
  Am I tired of this debate?  You're right, I am.  But I'm also tired of
  people who whine about shit but have no idea as to how all this works.
  This may be a passionate life-giving hobby for some, for people like myself
  and Laura Gavoor, this is a passionate, life-giving career.  We're
  professionals.  This is what we do.  Stop whinging and help us make a
  change. All of you.
 

Why do you want us to help make a change if you think we have no idea how
the business works?

I've been on the list for around 3 years, and although I've heard similar
topics come up- I still think this is important to reconsider for veterans
and newbies alike- and the fact that there are still differing viewpoints
on the matter suggests that people do indeed need some insight. The
veterans and music biz ppl should make it their duty to impart knowledge
and insight so that everyone can help. don't bitch that people are not
helping the cause when you'd rather scold their ignorance than enlighten
them.

p


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Re: [313] Electro Stuff

2002-02-21 Thread Peter Leidy
 
 09. Hypnosis - Blade Runner (End title)

 Early 80s Italian band which produced synthetic disco for want of a better
 term.  Don't know a hell of a lot to be honest.

They also used to do covers of stuff like Jean Michael Jarre (Oxygen) and
Vangelis (Pulstar- which is the flip side of the Blade Runner-End Title
single on zyx).

I have a couple of their records, and End Title is definitely the gem, a
lot of their other work sounds a little too dated.

-p





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[313] ebay is my friend

2002-02-14 Thread Peter Leidy
sorry to the spam-haters,

i'm getting rid of some house records and other goodies that have been
collecting dust: Derrick Carter,Chris Nazuka,JT Donaldson, Blaze, Cajmere,
Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, Joy Division, Residents, and more. Also selling
a Korg ES-1 sampler :)

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItemsuserid=pbl3include=0since=-1sort=3rows=25

or search by seller id: pbl3


later,

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Re: [313] bootie

2002-02-08 Thread Peter Leidy
doubt you'll find any more of these new - i think clone was the only shop
carrying them, they came out over a year ago and were fairly limited. if
it helps any- the label was called Magic Kuts.



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 other
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 The above bootleg was mentioned in an earlier post - anyone know of any
 shops that still have them??

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Re: [313] Louie austen -Q

2002-02-03 Thread Peter Leidy
I recently heard this brilliant remix on a 2xCD of herbert remixes- but
I'm not sure if this is on vinyl- I dont remember seeing it come out on
Cheap. Definitely something to keep an eye out for though

p

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Super Coffee Beans wrote:

 did herbert made a remix to this track? and if so where was it realsed? i
 know its not on the original cheap hoping single.
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[313] record collection for sale online-hundreds of records

2001-11-27 Thread Peter Leidy
Hi All,

This is the second batch of records I am selling from my collection.
Please visit: http://www.cozidesign.com/records/
There are some 500 records for sale.
(if you are interested, please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED])

This time there is a 10% discount over 55$ on first time orders (up to
10$)

There are the following categories (some of the labels/artists you will
find):

-Electro-oldschool-italo (Ersatz, Viewlex, IT, Gigolo,Cybotron...)
-House/Tech-House (Bomb, Perlon, Playhouse, Drop, Environ, Versatile,
KMS...)
-Misc/Pop/Rock (Eno, Caberet Voltaire, Blondie, Bowie, Gang of Four, ESG,
Iggy...)
-Techno (Klang, Planet E, Kompakt, Kanleramt, Metroplex, RS, Clear,
Transmat, Trax, Basic Channel...)
-HipHop (Dr. Dre, Biz Markie, Sugarhill, D'angelo, KRS, Tribe, Pharcyde,
Slick Rick...)
-Lounge/World/Jazz (Tony Allen, Herb Alpert, Serge Gainsbourg,Jorge
Ben...)
-80's (Mary Jane Girls, Mantronix, Laid Back, Was Not Was, Wee Papa Girls,
Liquid Liquid, Prince, Tom Tom Club...)
-Soul/Funk/Disco (Bohannan, Roy Ayers, Salsoul, Cerrone, Zapp, Parliament,
Earth Wind  Fire, MFSB, Loft...)
-Electronic (Warp, Astralwerks,Lifelike,Ninja tune)
-Info (my contact info, shipping, condition key, costs etc)

First Come First Serve,
Hope to hear from you.
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Re: [313] anti-technology

2001-10-31 Thread Peter Leidy
 rebirth is a pretty useful program.  with some solid compression, you can
 get some pretty pounding rhythms out of it, and if you're imaginative with
 your programming, it doesn't need to sound 'classic' anyways.  I've used it
 before to get some interesting thumb drumming sounds out of it.


And if you take the time to make your own mods- it's kinda like fruity
loops with added filtering/effects.

p


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[313] Delicious Spam you will love to eat

2001-10-30 Thread Peter Leidy
on ebay- yum,

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItemsuserid=pbl3include=0since=-1sort=3rows=25

(or search by user: pbl3)

some of the stuff i put up:
Common Factor, Theo Parrish, Rick Wade, Eddie Fowlkes, Neon Phusion,
Cajmere, Jay Denham, David Morley, Air Liquide, Cube 40, Reese Project,
Inner City, Nitzer Ebb, Was(NotWas), Throbbing Gristle

Sorry for the wasting of bandwidth..

p


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[313] techno-Indie/ Was Khan

2001-10-23 Thread Peter Leidy
Since these threads are wandering from techno towards Indie Rock, Was
wondering what you all think of the Vincent Gallo album just released on
Warp. For those not familiar, he's primarily known as an Indie Film actor,
he also directed/produced the movie Buffalo66. Kinda strange to see an
album out on warp from him, but it sounded pretty good in the record
store- definitely closer to indierock than techno tho-

any other suggestions on genre-crossing techno related stuff thats
catching your ears?

p


On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Geoffrey Richards wrote:

 I'm pretty sure that the Khan who produced No Comprendo is from Germany.
At
 least that is what he said when he played (at the empty bottle in
chicago)
 with julee cruise about a month ago.  bizarre live show--the only person
 that comes to mind in comparison is cex, who also seeks audiece
 participation in his sets.  I'm a big julee cruise fan, and honestly
hadn't
 heard of khan before this show.  I preferred the stuff they played
together
 to his solo work.

 -geoff

  




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[313] sale: turntables, vestax mixer, needles and all

2001-10-21 Thread Peter Leidy
Hi all,

I'm selling my dj set (i was going to go to ebay, but thought I would
offer it up here first...)If you are interested, please contact me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The package includes:

1. 2 SL-1200M3D's (they are in beautiful condition since i always played
out on my roommates 1200's ie. they never leave my living room:) 2yrs old.
comes/w technics slipmats, instruction manual and reg. card.

2. Stanton Trackmaster needles + 1 extra replacement (velvet needles and
all)

3. Vestax PMC17a Chrome Mixer

What else, I don't know... I have a table that goes with it to, so if you
are near me (chicago) you can pick that up for free.  (don't get your
hopes up, i built it myself, but it's sturdy and pretty.)

No nicks or scratches anywhere except a couple on the covers.

Selling price $1100  (Retails for: $1600 + tax)

-Manika







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[313] fa- 313 related ebay spam

2001-10-16 Thread Peter Leidy
all you record sellers have inspired me to do some needed collection
maintenance:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItemsamp;userid=pbl3amp;include=0amp;since=-1amp;sort=3amp;rows=25

beltran, analog:live, firstfloor1, rick wade, carl craig, tp, sean deason,
jammin unit, swayzak, drop bass, tortoise, seefeel, bumblebee unlimited, a
bunch more, and theres even a 12 that Ken Collier had a hand in- ooh,
can you find it.

later,

new pick- everything on persona :)

p




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[313] fa- 313 related ebay spam correction

2001-10-16 Thread Peter Leidy
sorry bout the bunk url ( the xtra spam),
corrected link should be:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItemsuserid=pbl3include=0since=-1sort=3rows=25

p

 all you record sellers have inspired me to do some needed collection
 maintenance:

 http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItemsamp;userid=pbl3amp;include=0amp;since=-1amp;sort=3amp;rows=25

 beltran, analog:live, firstfloor1, rick wade, carl craig, tp, sean deason,
 jammin unit, swayzak, drop bass, tortoise, seefeel, bumblebee unlimited, a
 bunch more, and theres even a 12 that Ken Collier had a hand in- ooh,
 can you find it.

 later,

 new pick- everything on persona :)

 p






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Re: [313] Filth/ was Theo Parrish's discog?

2001-10-15 Thread Peter Leidy
 This is the 12 that came out on the (now-defunct?) UK label Filth - I've
 got it on now, great stuff...


Speaking of filth, does anyone know whos behind the mo funk material on
the label. Also any links to discogs? or recommended filth records to look
for, I've got the theo parrish as well as a great rick wilhite 12.

-p


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Re: [313] ectomorph at the big wig review

2001-05-11 Thread Peter Leidy
 carlos souffront rocked the house too with some classic and far-out
techno mixed to perfection :)

ectomorph was doing more new experimental stuff instead of playing the hit
tunes- but it was definitely interesting and fun.

p

On Fri, 11 May 2001, Mark Khemma wrote:


 well, well, well. still figuring if i should make this a long or short
 review. hmmm. i'll make it short; no point bantering where there is enough
 banter already :p

 tommy sunshine. last night was my first taste of him and i must say that
 his set was quite refreshing, filling my ears with lovely synth pop, prog
 rock, radiohead, electro, freaky acid house, what have ya. smooth smooth 
 cabana
 dj.

 ectomorph. made me dance like a robot, pop-lockin my rusty joints.
 although i must say that i think
 their tracks are better than them live, but then again their records don't
 display a girl in vinyl swinging around torches in the air and putting
 them out with her tongue. watching one of them play with a gameboy
 (nanoloop?) for one of their tracks was a nice touch as well.

 magda. absolutely tight electro set.

 big wig system, subb subbb subbb par, but i've been there so many times,
 my expectations have always been rather low.

 overall, $5 dollar donation, muzak + performance, expensive drinks, people
 to be a jackass with.. .  nice night :)

 your gutted monkey
 -choppie


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RE: [313] last chance track ID

2001-05-09 Thread Peter Leidy

 Don't know who's the re-maker/re-mixer, but it's based on Munich Machine's
 Get On The Funk Train (Moroder track).

didnt get a chance to listen to the sample - but theres a Hakan Lidbo 12
on Loaded called new standards where the a-side track is based on get
on the funk train

p

 
 sqrrt
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 8:28 AM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: [313] last chance track ID
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 since I fear this will go off-line after the next one. Can anyone ID this
 track for me. From Kevin Saunderson at last years DEMF
 
 http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvltRecMed?Recorde
 dMediaID=33419
 
 about 11 mins in, after Designer Music. I REALLY need this one...
 
 hasta
 
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more on ClearChannel

2001-05-04 Thread Peter Leidy

this caught my eye from the recent talk of SFX/ClearChannel

http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2001/04/30/clear_channel/index.html


-peter




Re: [313] things that have been knocking my eardrums to the floor

2001-04-26 Thread Peter Leidy
 In the same vein: having missed the Balihu releases when they first came
 out, I picked up pretty much the entire back catalogue when they were
 repressed about a month ago (?) and haven't stopped listening to them

Aghh! where was i when this happened? does anybody know a good vendor in
the states that would have Balihu back catalog. I tried a couple online
shops with no luck yet.

thanks, 
peter



Re: [313] St. Germain?

2001-03-28 Thread Peter Leidy
i think the blue note label did a lot for the crazy response this album
received. its been on the billboard jazz top ten for some 24 weeks, was
number one for a while

p


On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, b.phenix wrote:

 
 st germain newest album is being sold in starbuck stores.
 obscure they are not.
 
 
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 `I was flipping threw channels and heard the track Rose Rouge by St. Germain
 `on MTV. It was being played in the background as a boy band (sorry but I
 `don't know the name) were in the act of ripping off there clothes on stage.
 `So my question is...Does St. Germain have any videos out?  Is it just
 `coincidence that the song was being played or is St. Germain going after the
 `Teen Pop Culture.
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real audio mixes up

2001-03-07 Thread Peter Leidy
hey all,
i finally uploaded a couple more mixes that i recorded a while back. still
in real audio, mp3 may come soon. one is strictly 313 related, the other
is more house stuff.

directory at
http://www.umich.edu/~pbleidy/music

detroit mix at
http://www.umich.edu/~pbleidy/music/detroit.ram

house mix at
http://www.umich.edu/~pbleidy/music/house.ram

tracklists:

detroit mix:
1. a number of names: sharevari (white label)
2. model 500: future [inst.] (metroplex)
3. inner city: big fun/ kick the pump mix (virgin)
4. kenny larkin: life (kms)
5. shake: foundry (nsc)
6. stacy pullen: 8th wonder (react)
7. kevin saunderson: powerbass (sonic groove)
8. chez damier: ? [kms 049] (kms)
9. paperclip people: reach (open)
10. r.n.g. : my soul will be free one day (430 west)
11. kenny larkin: catatonic/ stacy pullen mix (r  s)
12. designer music: good girls (planet e)
13. k-alexi: vertigo (transmat)
14. blake baxter: minimal funk (tresor)
15. rhythim is rhythim: drama (transmat)
16. reese  santonio: bounce your body to the box (planet e)
17. wee papa girls: we know it (jive)
18. a tongue  d groove: feel surreal (10)
19. stacy pullen: the stand (black flag)
20. rob hood: museum (m plant)
21. jeff mills: perfecture (axis) 

house mix:
1. herbert- oo licky (phono)
2. romanthony- bring u up /instr. (glasgow underground)
3. theo parrish- heal yourself and move (peacefrog)
4. rick wade- free (viva) 
5. motorbass- ezio (different) 
6. kerri chandler- latin love affair (bass mental) 
7. andres- b2 (kdj, #26) 
8. montana orchestra- dj beats (philly sound works) 
9. suzy q- get on up do it again pt.2 (atlantic) 
10. tutto matto- dont stop (tummy touch) 
11. alton m- africa '99 (moods  grooves) 
12. wally callerio- in your arms (dufflebag) 
13. soundstream- lets break (soundstream) 
14. ian pooley- whats your number/ jazzanova mix (nuphonic) 
15. agent x- in the morning (planet e) 
16. chez damier- ? (kms, #49) 
17. black science orchestra- new jersey deep (junior boys own)




Re: [313] 313 T-Shirts

2001-03-06 Thread Peter Leidy
heres the designs that never happened. i think the guy that was organizing
it didnt have the spare time to make it happen. anyhow, have a look and
maybe someone else will be inspired to tally votes and make shirt happen:

http://www.objektsynth.com/313/

-p

On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Greg Malcolm wrote:

 
 hey count me in to buy at least two or three...this was supposed to happen 
 last year too?
 
 GM
 
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 Subject: [313] 313 T-Shirts
 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 11:46:38 -0500
 
 I know there was a small discussion a few weeks ago about getting a 313 
 shirt done for DEMF. I'd be interested in making this happen if there was 
 enough support from the list to get a good order together. We could 
 obviously have an open competition to pick a design (entries could be 
 posted on the net) This would have to happen somewhat soon though so as to 
 avoid any rush charges tagged on by the printer. I'm in NYC and there are a 
 lot of folks that could do the shirts for a good price.
 
 I'd like to find out though if this is something worth doing especially 
 since we have a bit of time to work with before the end of May. Email me 
 back privately and let me know so as not to swamp the list. I'll post again 
 in a few days to let you know what the response has been.
 
 dave p  (yes it's still snowing here!)
 
 
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derrick may wildtime remixes

2001-01-10 Thread Peter Leidy

i picked up a bootleg copy of derrick mays wildtime remixes at gramamphone
the other day. the label has no info beyond this, and i was wondering if
someone could enlighten me on what and when these remixes are from. Sorry
if this has already come up- i've deleted a lot of 313 mail lately

ps- this is something to keep an eye out for if you dont have it already-
and the bootleg is hard to miss- has DERRICK MAY in huge letters on the
label :)

p



trak I.D.

2000-12-21 Thread Peter Leidy
mostly OT,
but it should be a pretty obvious one for an old-schooler

http://www.boombox.net:8080/ramgen/xpd/scratchadelia/swift.rm

From Rob Swift real video on Boombox.net- the very first track, before Rob
is on the tables- This was sampled heavily by one of the tracks on the
Cassius LP.

ps- some crazy turntablism after 5 minutes in from rob swift if you're in
to that sort of thing:)

thanx in advance

peter

np: peoples choice - we got the rhythm (tsop)
n313p: metropolis (havent bought records in a bit- this is still the jam)



Re: [313] Stewart Walker

2000-12-14 Thread Peter Leidy
Personally dont know for sure,
But I've been to quite a few shows at Motor that were not advertised on
their website. 

Most recently- got to check out Phoenicia and Richie Devine of the
Schematic crew in Florida. It was a really cool live show- basically a
bunch of Mac Powerbooks making twisted beats and really thick soundscapes-
so many layers of sound- my ears were killing but it was totally worth it.
For those not familiar, the Schematic label has been putting out lots of
good experimental electro stuff- sort of like autechre/rephlex sounds put
to electro beats and breakbeats.

anyhow there were only like 30 people there- i dont think Motor promoted
it at all.

p

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Kevin Conrad wrote:

 I was at the Stewart Walker webpage, and he's listed
 as playing Motor on Dec. 27.  But Motor doesn't list
 anything for this date.  Anyone know if he's really
 playing?
 
   Kevin
 
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