Re: (313) OT - techno
I can't reccomend homestarrunner.com enough. those guys are brilliant. They're starting to gain a lot of popularity...I've seen 14 year old girls wearing homestar shirts. they mentioned some homestar characters in the last episode of buffy the vampire slayer...i didn't see it, a friend told me. But, anyways, everyone should watch strong bad email. The techno one is really the only one relevant to us here, but they are all hilarious. every monday there are new cartoons. Sorry to keep the OT post alive, but I can also attest to the growing popularity in many non-tech-savvy circles. My 12 year old brother has two Strong Bad t-shirts, and one of my friend's 50-year old father walks around talking like Strong Bad, apparently its big w/ high school kids all over too. Interesting to see internet-geek-humor-culture finding its way into the rest of society.. Strong Bad is awesome by the way - personal favorite episodes = comic, band names, japanese cartoon, techno, etc, etc.. getting back to 313, What techno is coming up for Taste of Detroit next week? -p
Re: (313) Another Drexciya Gem: Clarence G.-Hyperspace Sound Lab
According to the mp3 tag it was released on Flourescent Forest Records in 1991. Does somebody have some more info about this record? And is it really James Stinson rapping on 2 tracks? Or is it (for me the unknown ) rapper Clarence G.? All the rapping is by Clarence G. - Good luck finding a vinyl copy. BMG is the only person I know that owns it, and I recall him saying Shake was the only other person he knew of w/ a copy.. nice record though :) p
Re: (313) Ulrich Schnauss
good. I may get lots of personal attacks for this but I do think his stuff is slightly over rated. I think the music is just a bit too nice for my particular taste. I have far away trains passing and A Strangely Isolated Place, both are good but not as good as many people make out IMHO. I have far away trains and a few singles I'm w/ you. I think his melodies and synth work are really great - reminds me a little of some old 4AD stuff. But his beats are really cold, thin, simple, and overly quantized for my taste (in general.. although i've heard exceptions on a few standout tracks). They sound like cheap casio wannabe hip-hop beats or something... kinda ruins it for me - either stick with 4-4 beats or get some really well produced broken stuff, but half-assed break beats are weak.. p
RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)
that's the stupid thing about revivals - it's very contrived, like the recent electro revival of the last several years. Why the fashion and focus on those years? To be into the music, why do people feel that they have to dress up in the fashion of the era it was created in? While revivals get caught up in nostalgia, fashion, etc.. I think the electroclash/new wave revival is in a class of it's own in this regard. Because much of the synth-punk/new-wave scene of the 80's and of today is/was about the insignificance of music (and of everything). fashion becomes sort of a punck-rock statement, and is in many ways as important as the music itself .. at least in theory .. i never gave a crap about anything besides the music, but that's why i'm a music geek instead of a scenester... I think something like acid house isn't as much entwined with any visual aesthetics or fashion (at least in the US scene, maybe different for the UK scene)- it was more about dancing than anything else.. and if an acid house revival means all the lame-asses around here will start dancing again, then bring it on :)!
RE: (313) Track id
Soul Saver is also available as a 12 on SID-006.. Great track. Anyone know the song that the main loop is sampled from? It's sped up quite a isn't that from an al green song? can't recall at the moment.. p -Original Message- From: Jussi Lehtonen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 6:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Somewhere in Internet Subject: Re: (313) Track id On Fri, 16 May 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does anybody know a track with a male voice repeating: I'm the soulshaker followed by some sort of horn-sound, heard Laurent Garnier play it some years ago! Hmmm... Could it be Soul Saver by Gerald (or is it Gerard?) Mitchell which appears on the Interstellar Fugitives 3xEP produced by UR? There's a vocal line which repeats I'm the Soul Saver and something like Get on the dance floor, let me see you shake that/your booty. http://www.undergroundresistance.com/ammo_i_045.html (Weird that it isn't listed on this www-page because I have the record at home and have been playing it from time to time... :) I don't remember any horn samples on that track, though, but Garnier could be mixing them in from another record. Very good, tight and funky track indeed, in my opinion. :) J -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Metaprogram yourself.
Re: (313) Swedish Techno/ was Every Dog 4
If you think about it what percentage of techno from Sweden really fit's under definition #2? As for the sound becoming more formulaic maybe you could be more specific listing artist and labels other than Adam Bayer, Drumcode. My second and final post on the subject as your reply is boderline flame-bait - if you read my post more carefully, I never implied that def#2 held a sizeable portion of swedish techno as a whole - merely that because enough similar records came out, that people eventually referred to that particular style as swedish techno. nor did i say that adam beyer strictly produces this style of techno (as indirectly implied by your post)- but a portion of his releases do fall into this category and were instrumental in the formation of the sub-genre. you asked for some other names and labels - i may not be the best person to ask since i never really got into the style except for some of the earlier material - some of the Code Red records. Earlier Hybrid records are excellent, but after the first 30 or so releases, Hybrid and Lekebush sort of got into that style. Primate, Drumcode, Thomas Krome, Joel Mull are some of the big names. I tend to lump Carolla and Zenit with that sound too even though its a bit different and not even swedish.. again, let me emphasize that i never said this style is bad- I like a lot of the stuff from the forementioned producers- but it definitely has become pretty same-ey over the years, so i never felt inclined to buy any more then the 10 or so records that I had from a few years back.. hope that clarifies what i was getting at. and don't ask me why it gets hated on - i'm not a hater, i'm just kinda bored of the stuff- a matter of personal taste.. p
Re: (313) Swedish Techno/ was Every Dog 4
I have heard a lot of Swedish techno/tech-house that is NOT just 2-beat loops but some quite musical material. I'm surprised the Swedes get hated on so much. just a quick note on swedich techno because this topic seems to get folks talking in circles without really getting anywhere: I've noticed Swedish Techno has two different meanings in general conversation: 1. Techno from Sweden - I'm sure nobody will argue that some of this is quite varied, musical, interesting, etc, etc.. 2. A Techno Style characterized by the minimal clubby compositions and compressed drum sounds for maximum loudness:) This stuff got a lot of exposure from Swedish Labels/Producers in the late 90's ala Adam Beyer/ Drum Code, etc.. This style is not too varied, and over the last few years has become even more formulaic that it was in the beginning - hence the disinterest from some of the 313 community. When referring to Swedish Techno in this sense- it may or may not actually be coming from Sweden, and by no means represents all of the techno coming out of Sweden- I find the second definition more commonly used than the first, but the context in which it is used usually clarifies the intended definition quite easily. I'm guessing this is pretty obvious to most, but in the world of email groups- continuity of semantics helps keep what little order we have from becoming total chaos.. p
Re: (313) fix records
just heard some snippets from fix01 and fix02 (secret mixes and fixes vol1 and 2), an ectomorph related label that has edits and rmxs of old tracks...totally ace... anyone have any more details, are these the only releases so far etc? Yeah I heard those snippets as well. Todd Osbourne had a hand in getting these out too. They are more bootlegs than re-edits, only a few small changes to the originals - so I was a little surpirsed to see brendan (or perhaps the distributors/shops) putting the ectomorph name on them. i have advance copies of a couple- the first one has an alternate mix of land of confusion, i was told it's called confusion's revenge. also has wee papa girls - heat it up -basically the original, added filtering on the breakdown. also has an afx acid track thats not too old.. i heard clips of vol 2. and only recognized liaisons- los ninos.. i have another one that i don't think is out yet which is all pretty much italo tracks.. p cheers robin...
RE: (313) Online record shopping
I have always wanted to use nuloop but the totally outrageous shipping cost makes it impossible. I have used groovetech in the past because they have great deals on shipping but if possible i would always support the independents. I find these stores have a good selection but i mostly order electro and a bit of older Detroit. I haven't ordered from rushhour but the instore selection of house music is quite tasty. I've ordered from nuloop to the US, and Shipping didn't end up being too outrageous from what I remember (it was actually billed as less than first quoted in the order form). Plus their prices are very reasonable. One think that really bugged me though- any of the records that come in plain sleeves (or even just sleeves w/out artwork like Ongaku sleeves) - they decided it was a good idea to rubber stamp their logo onto the sleeve. WWW.NULOOP.COM in black ink right on the cardboard. Am I the only one offended by this ?? -p
Re: (313) Unusual Suspects
Ha! Your powers have failed. I'll chalk it up overwork. :) This is a trailer for a documentary by Chip E on the origin of Chicago house. Looks nice via the list of interviewed peoples. I actually helped Chip on this project a bit while I was in Chicago last year. He has been doing freelance DVD authoring for a couple years now and has been doing the Unusual Suspects dvd project in his free time - so it has taken a while to come together. They set up a few parties in Chicago last year with performances by the dvd's featured artists to get a lot of the live footage. Definitely keep an eye out for it- I'm sure it will be informative since the goal is to expose the most overlooked/under-represented talents of early chicago house.. -p
Re: (313) playlists and conversations
tell me when you need a record's date to find it, eg you know the artist, the label, the track the ep name but you need the year to actually find it lots of times when you're trying to find a specific pressing of a record. especially when online shops do not list all the info on a given record and you have to piece together what they really have from whatever info they give you. sometimes labels will release alternate tracks on different pressings of a record. every little bit of info helps when you're looking for a specific song.. my 0.02 but i'll have to agree that this thread needs to die, and sorry for prolonging the agony -p
Re: (313) from miami... tune ID request
I used to have it writen down somewhere but i've since lost that piece of paper.. I can't recall what song/ label/ ep this tune is from, but the lyrics have this 'from miami.. to brooklyn' Gosub - Miami to Brooklyn - Isophlux Records -p
RE: (313) books on techno: more brilliant than the sun
Neil Wallace: Ive always avoided this book as ive seen kodwo on a few music documentaries and he always seems to be completely up his own a$$ I attended a guest lecture by Kodwo last year at the Art Institute of Chicago. The lecture focused specifically on Herbert's Bodily Functions, the Matmos Liposuction album, and Bjork's latest work - he used these to represent the newest incarnation of sample based music and how the role of samples in music has undergone functional and conceptual rediscovery over the years with the changing technologies. All this said, I've always looked at Kodwo as an Art Historian who has good taste in music - and as such, he does usually spew a lot of sh!t that is irrelelvant to the music just to reassure him of his own intelligence (no offense to art historians on the list). But on the other hand, at least he is spreading interest in good music- he reaches an audience that would not necessarily be embracing electronic music were it not for the intellectual discussions that he brings to the table. peace, p
Re: (313) Akufen party in the D
I think you may be referring to Dandy Jack. Luciano played first- sort of a Perlon-on-Coke sound if you ask me. It was alright, but every time it started getting good, he'd find some way to screw it up. Akufen played second, which was a letdown for me. He was pretty much playing entire tracks from his records live on his laptop without much manipulation, and overall it lacked any serious energy. I left during Akufen's set but Carlos Souffront said that Dandy Jack came on after and ripped sh!t up for the lucky people who stuck around- some serious jackin stuff for the dance floor..too bad i missed it. p On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Darren Longton (Marketing) wrote: Can anyone tell me who the second live act was at the Akufen party at the works last wknd? The guy with the longer hair, kind of squinty eyes...who BTW, was one of the first acts I've seen GET DOWN behind a laptop. His set was ASTONISHING! Please!...someone clarify. Thanks yo! d$
Re: (313) is it all over my face
with the original female vocal. You can fairly easily find the reissue on West End that is the male and female vocals. I have this reissue as well as a Male vocal version on the Nuphonic Loft Compilation- correct me if i'm wrong, but the male vocal version on the Loft Comp is different (better in my opinion) than the one on west end- was there an original pressing for the male vocal version on the loft comp? -p
Re: [313] moodymann @ demf2000
05. william devaughn - be thankfull on wich album and on wich label has this been released? I have what I believe to be the original album - Be Thankful for What You've Got (the title track is the hit obviously) on Roxbury records circa 1974. The single has been re-released many times and is readily avaliable in the hot classics series of 12s. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] it´s house!
The vocals are indeed saying it?s house, it?s house! Well.. Ron Hardy used to play an early chicago record from 1984 with these vocals.. just a beat , little B-line.. and the vocals twisted and wrapped ... (check this mix by ron hardy.. http://www.deephousepage.com/ron5.ram, it?s about 3 quarters in the mix just before time marches on) Jeffrey sampled this... but does anyone know what the original is?? Nobody seems to know.. maybee unreleased? I'm pretty sure that's Chip E. A few months ago he gave me a CDR of his stuff- some old, some new, some released, some unreleased- that track is on the CDR, but there's no info and not even any titles. You might try asking somewhere on www.housenation.com - Chip E helped start that site with a few others, I'm sure they've got forums on there somewhere.. pete - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] can you post this to the 313 list... ?
everyone, go round to Channel four and ask for Robert Taylor and then follow him home and take what is his and make it yours cos after all There is a school of thought that once a piece of work is in the public domain it belongs to everyone. alright, i know you're joking here, but just wanted to clarify because I think there is a case to be made for this school of thought. you are talking about stealing someone's personal belongings- this has always been against the law and has nothing to do with copyright issues. the issue is when created works are distributed to the public, how the public is allowed to use those works. there is a good 30 min speech wrapped in an 8meg flash file by Lawrence Lessig (author and Stanford Law Professor) promoting this school of thought here: http://randomfoo.net/oscon/2002/lessig/ and more info on what Lessig is up to at http://lessig.org Regarding the Beastie Boys thing- I agree with the last few posts- there may be nothing wrong with their use of the work in a new and (arguably) original context- but they should have at least given credit to the author. I think many hip hoppers have a sort of hypocritical stance on sampling. They advocate it, but at the same time don't want to reveal their sources for fear of other hip hoppers swiping the same loops or discovering the secret weapons of their record collection :) pete yipee! -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 August 2002 17:05 To: 'jurren baars'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] can you post this to the 313 list... ? the point is that james newton created the original piece; it's his work, so he has the right to do with it what HE wants. Does he really have that right? There is a school of thought that once a piece of work is in the public domain it belongs to everyone. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] cristian vogel
and what is this 'no futures' board? anyplace that has vogel posting is something i want to rcheck out. cristian is one of the admins on the forum at http://www.no-future.com a lot of others on the forum from germany and europe, mostly discussing the far out stuff from the like of vogel, landstrumm, tarrida, si begg, etc.. def. worth keeping an eye on from time to time.. p On Tue, 6 Aug 2002, Ben Goldberger wrote: relevant quote from Cristian Vogel from no-future message board dated August 1, 2002: ...since those early days, I believe in UR, as an inspirational musical force and a significant and authentic factor in the survival and development of independent music. I prize my Detroit electronic music collection above some of the others, not because the critics or the magazines say that its cool, but because some of those records have the amorphous magic , dusty roots and maverick attitudes that I crave in techno music... And, just for the record, I have NEVER played in Detroit , although its been reported to us that some promoters over the past ten years have falsely claimed to have brought me over ... I would love to play there someday but I am just waiting to be invited to the right party at the right time. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Tresor Club might stay open
Someone recently posted the thing about Tresor closing. Well looks like there's more to the story as of last week. Quoted below from no-future.com, and theres more on the Tresor site forum, but its in german :( [quote] tresor probably won't sleep that much in the next couple years... that have been kinda great news today: according to german political magazine 'DER SPIEGEL', the german government is involved in a bad scandal about the area of the old wertheim bank, which was owned by the jewish wertheim family before the nazis came up. it seems that german government sold the area without being the real owner of it. spiegel magazine said, that now the jewish claim conference fights against german government and otherwise. this means that the new owner will probably stop all construction plans promptly and tresor might remain on the old place until everything is sorted out. that are pretty much mindblowing news for us...last week we received the cancellation of our contract scheduled for end of august. check the forum at www.tresorberlin.de (click: Net Network Forum) for any news. I've posted some useful links (in german only) and will also upload a more detailed statement regarding all the closing rumours to the tresor.club section in a few days. [/quote] -p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] John Tejada
Just noticed that @ #1 in the Groovetech Top20 is John Tejada Arian Leviste's 'Its Only Music'. Possibly because it's released on... Groovetech Records! I had assumed looking at their regular top20 lists that their label would lots of mediocre club crap, but I have been pleasantly surprised at the quality of the Groovetech releases. The Swayzak mix comp (unmixed 2x12) had some great dubby stuff from Convextion (one of the tektite tracks), Akufen, CiM, etc. and other GT releases from Tejada, Dan Curtin, hmmm.. p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Plastic Jacket Sleeved
I've bought the clear plastic sleeves that fit around the outside of a cardboard sleeve from Dusty Groove in Chicago - $10 for 100 of them http://www.dustygroove.com -p On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, SOS wrote: Does anyone have a good lead/price on plastic jacket sleeves... If you can give a general price if you have one for 500 - 1000 pieces... Peace - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Tues-6/11, Chicago, Me :)
brief shameless self promotion: For those in Chicago, I'll be dj'ing techno and electro tomorrow night. Free, low key, one of the few techno nights in housetown. illmeasures presents OUTLET, Tuesdays at Big Wig (Ashland and Division), Tue 6-11-02: Pete Leidy Resident Sinjin 21+ w/ID, no cover Sorry bout that, back to the music, weepy techno and whatnot.. p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re[2]: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry....
For me it's Inspiration, the title track of the first Stasis album on Peacefrog (PF028)... shivers down my spine every time I hear it. i'll second this track, just pulled this out yesterday for the first time in months, but i think i'm gonna have to keep it out for a while.. -p Cheers, Arne -- ??? www.arneweinberg.de STARBABY Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC NATIVE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. (ex-Ground Zero Rec.) ??? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: electro is trendy
I would definitely advise you to aim for the lower numbers rather than higher. From around vol 6 or so they started to go slightly bad, and the latter volumes are better defined as early hip-hop than electro, imho! But volumes 1-4, and the Crucial Electro spinoff, are well worth getting, with classics like Clear, The Smurf, Electric Kingdom, Hip Hop Be Bop all sorry, late on this thread, but i just wanted to say that some of the later numbers as well as the Crucial Electro ones were sort of more interesting for me. I already have a lot of the classics, but when you get into the later stuff there are some great gems that you wouldnt normally think to listen to.. so dont pass on them without a listen. p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin?
The fact is, he played very little 140bpm boom-boom-boom Which must have been the hour-or so that I caught. Around 4:30 - 6am. I was speaking w/ a hawtin fan about his recent tendencies toward hard repetitive stuff- and they were trying to tell me that he uses the hard stuff to weed people out of the crowd early on- for instance, playing hard banging stuff so that the only people who stay are those that want to just dance to anything and let the dj control them- then after an hour or two he gets into funkier and more fun stuff. i cant really comment because the last couple times i've seen him - i did leave within the first hour :) anyone have any thoughts on this idea? ps- my two cents: hawtin has demonstrated great skills, concepts and innovations consistently over the years in terms of musical output and production techniques, but as far as music at parties, i much prefer the '93 - '96 hawtin than anything i've heard recently. pete Please don't speak about partys you did not attend. Sorry, I *was* in attendance for a portion of the night. Not my cup of tea anymore, but he was obviously having a great time, and the crowd (what I could see of them) dug it. Perspective helps. If Richie held a control party every weekend in a new city, I'd worry about his sanity, ears, and liver. But this was a chance to go over the top. I'm looking forward to his next release, just to see if he can sucessfully develop beyond the DE9 concept... -- im - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin?
I can't speak for 93-95, but I remeber seeing Hawtin for the first time in 96 and being disturbed at how minimal it was. Being new to the music I found that boring. Of course, stating that anything was better back then is rather obvious. yeah, with most developing scenes, younger = better about 90 percent of the time :) i hate sounding so old and nostalgic, but sometimes can't help myself. also, regarding the older richie parties, i too was younger and knew little about the music at the time- but his parties seemed more like a musical rollercoaster back then, now they are a little closer to a musical amtrack. but hey, thats my rather uneducated opinion speaking on the recent parties that I rarely attend, so i should probably shut up and go back to reminiscing about the good old days or something :) On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Peter Leidy wrote: The fact is, he played very little 140bpm boom-boom-boom Which must have been the hour-or so that I caught. Around 4:30 - 6am. I was speaking w/ a hawtin fan about his recent tendencies toward hard repetitive stuff- and they were trying to tell me that he uses the hard stuff to weed people out of the crowd early on- for instance, playing hard banging stuff so that the only people who stay are those that want to just dance to anything and let the dj control them- then after an hour or two he gets into funkier and more fun stuff. i cant really comment because the last couple times i've seen him - i did leave within the first hour :) anyone have any thoughts on this idea? ps- my two cents: hawtin has demonstrated great skills, concepts and innovations consistently over the years in terms of musical output and production techniques, but as far as music at parties, i much prefer the '93 - '96 hawtin than anything i've heard recently. pete Please don't speak about partys you did not attend. Sorry, I *was* in attendance for a portion of the night. Not my cup of tea anymore, but he was obviously having a great time, and the crowd (what I could see of them) dug it. Perspective helps. If Richie held a control party every weekend in a new city, I'd worry about his sanity, ears, and liver. But this was a chance to go over the top. I'm looking forward to his next release, just to see if he can sucessfully develop beyond the DE9 concept... -- im - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Packard Building (OT, kind of)
I remember going there in the middle of winter with those big space heater cannons... Waiting outside in the rain to get in while Carl Craig was Yeah- I was there one time in subzero weather, but it was like 80+ degrees on the dancefloor- I stepped outside to get some air and got an instant nosebleed from the temperature drop- ouch! lots of great memories too though :) p playing live inside. Richie's parties, the Poorboys... What a place... At 07:32 PM 5/29/2002 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spastik, the first ever Plastikman live show, was there. ...get everyone in, lock the gates, GO. there's subsequently a track on Artifakts called 'Pakard'. At 5:44 PM -0400 5/29/02, :P wrote: wasnt that the venue for a couple plastikman PAs back in the 90s? (I missed those times narrowly) -Joe - Original Message - From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 5:10 PM Subject: [313] Packard Building (OT, kind of) Does anyone have any URL's that talk about the packard in Detroit? I am intrigued by this building and would like to know more. I couldn't find anything re: a google search. One of the rumors i heard over the weekend was that someone just bought it because they heard it was being knocked down... also if anyone has any pictures of old flyers from any UR parties they had there, that would be excellent. Thanks for any info, -Pete --- Peter Grammenos Goldman Sachs Co. Tel : 212.902.2446 --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF sets that you where impressed with
I also had an amazing time at the Cannonball party this weekend...can anyone tell me who it was who played hot on the heels of love by throbbing gristle? My night was kind of mashed together and I can't remember which That would be Carlos Burt Reynolds Souffront :) Interdimensional Trans. did a nice job with the party. Not too big, not too small, most everyone getting into it- oldschool dirty detroit atmosphere :) derek plaslaiko was dropping the dance classics from old acid cuts like Land of Confusion to Perlon stuff to the occasional wince-inducing cuts like Higher State of Consciousness (he pulled it off as few can). Carlos got a bit more experimental and a bit darker but still kept the floor dancing, BMG did a laptop-based speed mix of all sorts of electro, synthpop, and techno classics. Unfortunately had to go to recoup before traxx and tommie sunshine went on- but the crowd was still dancing at 4am when I left. Also - whomever was asking about Luomo at Panacea - I caught the last 45 min of the set and it was pretty nice. A lot like the 12s on Force, sounded good but was perhaps a bit too low-key for the venue, there were a number of long breakdowns that left people awkwardly standing around on the dancefloor. Maybe thats why Rex broke out with the banging techno afterwards. I was not crazy about the venue either- they did a nice job remodeling the interior of a lovely building, but the dj/musician area is on a balcony that is hard to see even from the rest of the balcony, and the club seems to cater to twenty-something dressed up rich kids. As I was waiting in line, I hear barbie girl #1 asking barbie girl #2 Who's George Clinton, Isn't he a country singer or something? :) Overall, I had tons o fun, as I'm sure you all did- despite your complaining. fav's: Herbert, Mad Professor, Stewart Walker, Tejada, Rachmad -Pete - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] metro times article - rant
props to lisa for saying what the other papers cant say due to contractual obligations or just plain stupidity. i like this quote from Dan Sordyl because it cuts to the chase of the matter: You've got to give Carol Marvin credit for making this happen against all odds. The first year they pulled this off, she busted her ass to make this happen. But you can't go alienating the music scene. You can't alienate the people that have been performing and promoting this music in this city for years. I personally dont care if carol is a bitch, if she doesnt pay her phone bill, if she's out to make a buck- whatever. But when she comes out of nowhere, takes over something very special and deeply rooted in the local music community, and then completely disregards the voice of that community- this is very uncool. i vote for impeachment :) see y'all in a few days -p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] if you want the theo remixes of jill scott
$16.99 weekend records and soap. nicest people ever, great store, great soap...I can't say enough... www.weekendrecordsandsoap.com Actually Jim only has a few copies left and all were on hold as of this morning, but is supposed to be getting in 10 more copies or so next week- just ordered them today when I told him all the 313'ers were freaking out :) hope your day was/is 1/30th as good as mine! dina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] strange occurence
i just saw anthony keadis(sp?) of the chili peppers wearing a chicks on speed t-shirt at an awards show on ESPN. let this now begin another round of techno related sightings in the major media. it was my understanding that the techno community still labels chicks on speed as electro-pop. hence, said sighting may receive more groans and complaints than anything else :) nice trainspotting work though p -sam http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Advent/ was Woody McBride
According to the flyer for a party in Cedar Rapids IA this weekend, where Woody McBride, the Advent, and THomas Krome are playing (http://www.mnvibe.com/events/events/show_event.php?handle=vessels) the new basketball heros has remixes by the Advent/G Flame on it. Anyone planning on attending the above- be forewarned that Advent is not showing up to their show in Chicago tonight due to problem with Cisco's passport or Visa or some crap. Advent probably wont be doing any of their US tour dates for the next week or two- maybe they'll have their crap together by the time they come over for demf p should be pretty good if its anything like the original or the first remixes. -m Mr McBride is releasing a new version of Basketball Hero's, and I was wondering if anyone has heard it. Is it a remix, or a totally different track with a new title. I just know that his last release was total crap, and wouldn't buy it for any amount of money. So if someone has any info on it, kindly send it my way since Basketball Hero's is a classic Acid track. peace Jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] two ricks
1 ) I heard Rick Wilhite?s contributions to the three chairs ep?s. I was just wondering on wich labels I can find some other Wilhite stuff.. He put out one or two 12s on filth- then the three chairs stuff and the Godson EP. not sure about anything else but he runs Vibes Record Store on Livernois in Detroit. 2) Where is Rick Wade from? Detroit, Si? p Thanks, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] SID 6
While on the topic of SID, What is the deal with the one side of SID 6 (not the soul saver side) the UR track on the NSC double picture disc? i thought they were identical, but then noticed some small differences. is this just two different mixes of the same track? which came first and why the separate releases? -p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] nouveau electro vs. broken beat
My question is - did electro really ever die? and my impression was, and i only remember this because i was a teen in the '80's, that electro had come before techno (proper) and laid the foundation for techno - am i wrong about this? not so much a death- i think it just got overshadowed by its two followers- hip hop and techno. I for one think it's about time electro got the respect it's been long overdue (or have i missed something?) respect is different than popularity. popularity is a mixed blessing in that it does get more people respecting great music, but it also usually ends up generating a lot of crap. maybe it's still a good thing overall, i know there are differing viewpoints- i usually resort to cynicism :) -p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] live vs. dj/ electropop
I havent been following this thread too closely- but- I know one of the big criticisms of live techno is lack of stage presence. Some would say stage presence is not required when the only goal is to get people dancing, but people inevitably have expectations and preconceived notions of what live music is supposed to consist of. And I just had a thought that perhaps this is another reason why electro-pop is blowing up- because they always have singers (and often good-looking women for maximum audience response from predominantly-male music-geek community - adult, miss kitten, peaches, chix on speed :) not sure how this factors in tho, because it seems like all the electro-pop singers are always acting bored and apathetic which is traditionally not a good formula for maximum stage presence. hmm.. -p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] nouveau electro vs. broken beat
i don't understand why all the new-school electro-pop gets so much criticism but so much new-school jazz/house/breaks, broken-beat-type stuff passes the quality test. i know it all comes down to individual tastes, but it just I thought this was because new-school electro pop is crossing over to the indie rock crowd- and has all the makings of an indie rock fad, which in turn means that the fad will end and people will forget about it. While the broken beat movement has enjoyed the same fast growing popularity- the audience is still largely withing the techno-house-idm camp- so techno headz are not worrying about outside forces controlling the fate of this music. the only outside attention seems to be coming from rb and jazz audiences, and it seems to be a bit more modest- i.e. - has not been turned into a standard formula song structure (at least not as much as the timbaland breakbeat formula :), has not suffered as many limited-pressing/status-symbol type releases to promote the hierarchic fad structure among audiences. Also broken-beat does not suffer the negative connotations of retro and nostalgia in the same way that electro does. i'm mostly critical of the electro-pop movement because i think there is a lot of quality electro/italo that is going to get lost in the sea of mediocre electro-pop, and will soon go unappreciated because people will be tired of all things electro. -p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] nouveau electro vs. broken beat
outside forces ? there are a lot of kids who think Orgy wrote the song Blue Monday, and while some might say - so what, music will speak for itself- this sort of misrepresentation to new audiences affects the growth potential of musical genres. this is a bit of an extreme example, and complicated because it enters the realm of mainstream pop. I consider Orgy outside the realm of electro/new wave, but they are a widespread representation of such music to a lot of kids. perhaps outside forces is a poor choice of words- because unless you are a huge corporation- all the forces that determine your audience are going to be external, people cannot govern how others will react to their music- but its easier to keep the spirit of something alive when there are not people bastardizing it and deciding to capitalize on it for the sake of money, fame, kitsch, whatever. p ps- as you may notice- i'm not very wordly- my world consists of usa and sometimes canada- hope my references and viewpoints are understood/applicable elsewhere as well :) i don't understand why all the new-school electro-pop gets so much criticism but so much new-school jazz/house/breaks, broken-beat-type stuff passes the quality test. i know it all comes down to individual tastes, but it just I thought this was because new-school electro pop is crossing over to the indie rock crowd- and has all the makings of an indie rock fad, which in turn means that the fad will end and people will forget about it. While the broken beat movement has enjoyed the same fast growing popularity- the audience is still largely withing the techno-house-idm camp- so techno headz are not worrying about outside forces controlling the fate of this music. the only outside attention seems to be coming from rb and jazz audiences, and it seems to be a bit more modest- i.e. - has not been turned into a standard formula song structure (at least not as much as the timbaland breakbeat formula :), has not suffered as many limited-pressing/status-symbol type releases to promote the hierarchic fad structure among audiences. Also broken-beat does not suffer the negative connotations of retro and nostalgia in the same way that electro does. i'm mostly critical of the electro-pop movement because i think there is a lot of quality electro/italo that is going to get lost in the sea of mediocre electro-pop, and will soon go unappreciated because people will be tired of all things electro. -p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!
First of all, this is one of the most thought-provoking threads I've read in a while (nit-picking over curse words aside)- I'm glad the opinions are being voiced and I'd like to hear more from those like Laura who have a lot of direct industry experience with these issues. firing off cannons. Recently while watching CNN, there was a news segment covering Elton John FLAMING the music industry for lowest common denominator marketing. He said that the good musicians and music were actively being passed over in favor of the rubbish msuic the industry was putting out...He Last night I saw a great PBS special that focused on this same problem of LCD marketing- but in the realm of Film-Making- its called The Monster that ate Hollywood. There are tons of interviews with industry analysts, journalists, producers and directors up on their site at: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/hollywood/ I think these issues of Pop Culture, Global Economy, LCD Marketing, etc. are common across the various realms of Arts Entertainment similar things are happening in each field right now from an economic standpoint. In terms of dance music getting serious attention- I think the problem with house and techno is that there is not a good stereotype of techno producer to market to teenage kids. I think the Major Labels like to market stereotypes of Rebellious, Subversive, Cool, and more recently pop-conscious-satiric characters that middle-class suburban teens can relate to. The problem with house and techno is that when you look for stereotypes- you have the gay club scene, the middle to lower class minorities- but without the hip-hop egos and fashion, then also the computer and synth geeks, none of which are sexy or cool to todays teenagers. But when the London Rave scene appeared- here was something more marketable- white kids sneaking out at night, taking drugs, and partying to rave music, not to mention new marketable fashion trends to go along with it. And of course, once they found something marketable, they further bastardized the music into formulated candy-coated crap, just as they did with disco 25 years ago. PS- I'm not even going to bring up the race issue- a whole other can of worms- but I agree that the race card is not over-used- it is still a serious problem with deep roots in the social and political policies that govern our country. People need to be aware of this especially as it becomes more subtle and disguised by other issues. -p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Hype, Marketing, and BS (was The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT...
Am I tired of this debate? You're right, I am. But I'm also tired of people who whine about shit but have no idea as to how all this works. This may be a passionate life-giving hobby for some, for people like myself and Laura Gavoor, this is a passionate, life-giving career. We're professionals. This is what we do. Stop whinging and help us make a change. All of you. Why do you want us to help make a change if you think we have no idea how the business works? I've been on the list for around 3 years, and although I've heard similar topics come up- I still think this is important to reconsider for veterans and newbies alike- and the fact that there are still differing viewpoints on the matter suggests that people do indeed need some insight. The veterans and music biz ppl should make it their duty to impart knowledge and insight so that everyone can help. don't bitch that people are not helping the cause when you'd rather scold their ignorance than enlighten them. p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Electro Stuff
09. Hypnosis - Blade Runner (End title) Early 80s Italian band which produced synthetic disco for want of a better term. Don't know a hell of a lot to be honest. They also used to do covers of stuff like Jean Michael Jarre (Oxygen) and Vangelis (Pulstar- which is the flip side of the Blade Runner-End Title single on zyx). I have a couple of their records, and End Title is definitely the gem, a lot of their other work sounds a little too dated. -p royal one: benn glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.royaltech.net http://dj.royaltech.net r720 royal exchange nsw australia 1225 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] ebay is my friend
sorry to the spam-haters, i'm getting rid of some house records and other goodies that have been collecting dust: Derrick Carter,Chris Nazuka,JT Donaldson, Blaze, Cajmere, Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, Joy Division, Residents, and more. Also selling a Korg ES-1 sampler :) http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItemsuserid=pbl3include=0since=-1sort=3rows=25 or search by seller id: pbl3 later, p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] bootie
doubt you'll find any more of these new - i think clone was the only shop carrying them, they came out over a year ago and were fairly limited. if it helps any- the label was called Magic Kuts. On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text clone had a nice bootleg once with charly - spacerwoman, shari vari 2 other italo tracks. anyone can name them? The above bootleg was mentioned in an earlier post - anyone know of any shops that still have them?? Thanks, Alex. - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Louie austen -Q
I recently heard this brilliant remix on a 2xCD of herbert remixes- but I'm not sure if this is on vinyl- I dont remember seeing it come out on Cheap. Definitely something to keep an eye out for though p On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Super Coffee Beans wrote: did herbert made a remix to this track? and if so where was it realsed? i know its not on the original cheap hoping single. Yair. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] record collection for sale online-hundreds of records
Hi All, This is the second batch of records I am selling from my collection. Please visit: http://www.cozidesign.com/records/ There are some 500 records for sale. (if you are interested, please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]) This time there is a 10% discount over 55$ on first time orders (up to 10$) There are the following categories (some of the labels/artists you will find): -Electro-oldschool-italo (Ersatz, Viewlex, IT, Gigolo,Cybotron...) -House/Tech-House (Bomb, Perlon, Playhouse, Drop, Environ, Versatile, KMS...) -Misc/Pop/Rock (Eno, Caberet Voltaire, Blondie, Bowie, Gang of Four, ESG, Iggy...) -Techno (Klang, Planet E, Kompakt, Kanleramt, Metroplex, RS, Clear, Transmat, Trax, Basic Channel...) -HipHop (Dr. Dre, Biz Markie, Sugarhill, D'angelo, KRS, Tribe, Pharcyde, Slick Rick...) -Lounge/World/Jazz (Tony Allen, Herb Alpert, Serge Gainsbourg,Jorge Ben...) -80's (Mary Jane Girls, Mantronix, Laid Back, Was Not Was, Wee Papa Girls, Liquid Liquid, Prince, Tom Tom Club...) -Soul/Funk/Disco (Bohannan, Roy Ayers, Salsoul, Cerrone, Zapp, Parliament, Earth Wind Fire, MFSB, Loft...) -Electronic (Warp, Astralwerks,Lifelike,Ninja tune) -Info (my contact info, shipping, condition key, costs etc) First Come First Serve, Hope to hear from you. -Manika ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] anti-technology
rebirth is a pretty useful program. with some solid compression, you can get some pretty pounding rhythms out of it, and if you're imaginative with your programming, it doesn't need to sound 'classic' anyways. I've used it before to get some interesting thumb drumming sounds out of it. And if you take the time to make your own mods- it's kinda like fruity loops with added filtering/effects. p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Delicious Spam you will love to eat
on ebay- yum, http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItemsuserid=pbl3include=0since=-1sort=3rows=25 (or search by user: pbl3) some of the stuff i put up: Common Factor, Theo Parrish, Rick Wade, Eddie Fowlkes, Neon Phusion, Cajmere, Jay Denham, David Morley, Air Liquide, Cube 40, Reese Project, Inner City, Nitzer Ebb, Was(NotWas), Throbbing Gristle Sorry for the wasting of bandwidth.. p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] techno-Indie/ Was Khan
Since these threads are wandering from techno towards Indie Rock, Was wondering what you all think of the Vincent Gallo album just released on Warp. For those not familiar, he's primarily known as an Indie Film actor, he also directed/produced the movie Buffalo66. Kinda strange to see an album out on warp from him, but it sounded pretty good in the record store- definitely closer to indierock than techno tho- any other suggestions on genre-crossing techno related stuff thats catching your ears? p On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Geoffrey Richards wrote: I'm pretty sure that the Khan who produced No Comprendo is from Germany. At least that is what he said when he played (at the empty bottle in chicago) with julee cruise about a month ago. bizarre live show--the only person that comes to mind in comparison is cex, who also seeks audiece participation in his sets. I'm a big julee cruise fan, and honestly hadn't heard of khan before this show. I preferred the stuff they played together to his solo work. -geoff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] sale: turntables, vestax mixer, needles and all
Hi all, I'm selling my dj set (i was going to go to ebay, but thought I would offer it up here first...)If you are interested, please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The package includes: 1. 2 SL-1200M3D's (they are in beautiful condition since i always played out on my roommates 1200's ie. they never leave my living room:) 2yrs old. comes/w technics slipmats, instruction manual and reg. card. 2. Stanton Trackmaster needles + 1 extra replacement (velvet needles and all) 3. Vestax PMC17a Chrome Mixer What else, I don't know... I have a table that goes with it to, so if you are near me (chicago) you can pick that up for free. (don't get your hopes up, i built it myself, but it's sturdy and pretty.) No nicks or scratches anywhere except a couple on the covers. Selling price $1100 (Retails for: $1600 + tax) -Manika - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] fa- 313 related ebay spam
all you record sellers have inspired me to do some needed collection maintenance: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItemsamp;userid=pbl3amp;include=0amp;since=-1amp;sort=3amp;rows=25 beltran, analog:live, firstfloor1, rick wade, carl craig, tp, sean deason, jammin unit, swayzak, drop bass, tortoise, seefeel, bumblebee unlimited, a bunch more, and theres even a 12 that Ken Collier had a hand in- ooh, can you find it. later, new pick- everything on persona :) p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] fa- 313 related ebay spam correction
sorry bout the bunk url ( the xtra spam), corrected link should be: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItemsuserid=pbl3include=0since=-1sort=3rows=25 p all you record sellers have inspired me to do some needed collection maintenance: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItemsamp;userid=pbl3amp;include=0amp;since=-1amp;sort=3amp;rows=25 beltran, analog:live, firstfloor1, rick wade, carl craig, tp, sean deason, jammin unit, swayzak, drop bass, tortoise, seefeel, bumblebee unlimited, a bunch more, and theres even a 12 that Ken Collier had a hand in- ooh, can you find it. later, new pick- everything on persona :) p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Filth/ was Theo Parrish's discog?
This is the 12 that came out on the (now-defunct?) UK label Filth - I've got it on now, great stuff... Speaking of filth, does anyone know whos behind the mo funk material on the label. Also any links to discogs? or recommended filth records to look for, I've got the theo parrish as well as a great rick wilhite 12. -p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ectomorph at the big wig review
carlos souffront rocked the house too with some classic and far-out techno mixed to perfection :) ectomorph was doing more new experimental stuff instead of playing the hit tunes- but it was definitely interesting and fun. p On Fri, 11 May 2001, Mark Khemma wrote: well, well, well. still figuring if i should make this a long or short review. hmmm. i'll make it short; no point bantering where there is enough banter already :p tommy sunshine. last night was my first taste of him and i must say that his set was quite refreshing, filling my ears with lovely synth pop, prog rock, radiohead, electro, freaky acid house, what have ya. smooth smooth cabana dj. ectomorph. made me dance like a robot, pop-lockin my rusty joints. although i must say that i think their tracks are better than them live, but then again their records don't display a girl in vinyl swinging around torches in the air and putting them out with her tongue. watching one of them play with a gameboy (nanoloop?) for one of their tracks was a nice touch as well. magda. absolutely tight electro set. big wig system, subb subbb subbb par, but i've been there so many times, my expectations have always been rather low. overall, $5 dollar donation, muzak + performance, expensive drinks, people to be a jackass with.. . nice night :) your gutted monkey -choppie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] last chance track ID
Don't know who's the re-maker/re-mixer, but it's based on Munich Machine's Get On The Funk Train (Moroder track). didnt get a chance to listen to the sample - but theres a Hakan Lidbo 12 on Loaded called new standards where the a-side track is based on get on the funk train p sqrrt -Original Message- From: seth redmond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 8:28 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] last chance track ID Hi all, since I fear this will go off-line after the next one. Can anyone ID this track for me. From Kevin Saunderson at last years DEMF http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvltRecMed?Recorde dMediaID=33419 about 11 mins in, after Designer Music. I REALLY need this one... hasta seth _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
more on ClearChannel
this caught my eye from the recent talk of SFX/ClearChannel http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2001/04/30/clear_channel/index.html -peter
Re: [313] things that have been knocking my eardrums to the floor
In the same vein: having missed the Balihu releases when they first came out, I picked up pretty much the entire back catalogue when they were repressed about a month ago (?) and haven't stopped listening to them Aghh! where was i when this happened? does anybody know a good vendor in the states that would have Balihu back catalog. I tried a couple online shops with no luck yet. thanks, peter
Re: [313] St. Germain?
i think the blue note label did a lot for the crazy response this album received. its been on the billboard jazz top ten for some 24 weeks, was number one for a while p On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, b.phenix wrote: st germain newest album is being sold in starbuck stores. obscure they are not. On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: `I was flipping threw channels and heard the track Rose Rouge by St. Germain `on MTV. It was being played in the background as a boy band (sorry but I `don't know the name) were in the act of ripping off there clothes on stage. `So my question is...Does St. Germain have any videos out? Is it just `coincidence that the song was being played or is St. Germain going after the `Teen Pop Culture. ` ` `Ben ` `- `To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] `For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ` ` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
real audio mixes up
hey all, i finally uploaded a couple more mixes that i recorded a while back. still in real audio, mp3 may come soon. one is strictly 313 related, the other is more house stuff. directory at http://www.umich.edu/~pbleidy/music detroit mix at http://www.umich.edu/~pbleidy/music/detroit.ram house mix at http://www.umich.edu/~pbleidy/music/house.ram tracklists: detroit mix: 1. a number of names: sharevari (white label) 2. model 500: future [inst.] (metroplex) 3. inner city: big fun/ kick the pump mix (virgin) 4. kenny larkin: life (kms) 5. shake: foundry (nsc) 6. stacy pullen: 8th wonder (react) 7. kevin saunderson: powerbass (sonic groove) 8. chez damier: ? [kms 049] (kms) 9. paperclip people: reach (open) 10. r.n.g. : my soul will be free one day (430 west) 11. kenny larkin: catatonic/ stacy pullen mix (r s) 12. designer music: good girls (planet e) 13. k-alexi: vertigo (transmat) 14. blake baxter: minimal funk (tresor) 15. rhythim is rhythim: drama (transmat) 16. reese santonio: bounce your body to the box (planet e) 17. wee papa girls: we know it (jive) 18. a tongue d groove: feel surreal (10) 19. stacy pullen: the stand (black flag) 20. rob hood: museum (m plant) 21. jeff mills: perfecture (axis) house mix: 1. herbert- oo licky (phono) 2. romanthony- bring u up /instr. (glasgow underground) 3. theo parrish- heal yourself and move (peacefrog) 4. rick wade- free (viva) 5. motorbass- ezio (different) 6. kerri chandler- latin love affair (bass mental) 7. andres- b2 (kdj, #26) 8. montana orchestra- dj beats (philly sound works) 9. suzy q- get on up do it again pt.2 (atlantic) 10. tutto matto- dont stop (tummy touch) 11. alton m- africa '99 (moods grooves) 12. wally callerio- in your arms (dufflebag) 13. soundstream- lets break (soundstream) 14. ian pooley- whats your number/ jazzanova mix (nuphonic) 15. agent x- in the morning (planet e) 16. chez damier- ? (kms, #49) 17. black science orchestra- new jersey deep (junior boys own)
Re: [313] 313 T-Shirts
heres the designs that never happened. i think the guy that was organizing it didnt have the spare time to make it happen. anyhow, have a look and maybe someone else will be inspired to tally votes and make shirt happen: http://www.objektsynth.com/313/ -p On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Greg Malcolm wrote: hey count me in to buy at least two or three...this was supposed to happen last year too? GM From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] 313 T-Shirts Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 11:46:38 -0500 I know there was a small discussion a few weeks ago about getting a 313 shirt done for DEMF. I'd be interested in making this happen if there was enough support from the list to get a good order together. We could obviously have an open competition to pick a design (entries could be posted on the net) This would have to happen somewhat soon though so as to avoid any rush charges tagged on by the printer. I'm in NYC and there are a lot of folks that could do the shirts for a good price. I'd like to find out though if this is something worth doing especially since we have a bit of time to work with before the end of May. Email me back privately and let me know so as not to swamp the list. I'll post again in a few days to let you know what the response has been. dave p (yes it's still snowing here!) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
derrick may wildtime remixes
i picked up a bootleg copy of derrick mays wildtime remixes at gramamphone the other day. the label has no info beyond this, and i was wondering if someone could enlighten me on what and when these remixes are from. Sorry if this has already come up- i've deleted a lot of 313 mail lately ps- this is something to keep an eye out for if you dont have it already- and the bootleg is hard to miss- has DERRICK MAY in huge letters on the label :) p
trak I.D.
mostly OT, but it should be a pretty obvious one for an old-schooler http://www.boombox.net:8080/ramgen/xpd/scratchadelia/swift.rm From Rob Swift real video on Boombox.net- the very first track, before Rob is on the tables- This was sampled heavily by one of the tracks on the Cassius LP. ps- some crazy turntablism after 5 minutes in from rob swift if you're in to that sort of thing:) thanx in advance peter np: peoples choice - we got the rhythm (tsop) n313p: metropolis (havent bought records in a bit- this is still the jam)
Re: [313] Stewart Walker
Personally dont know for sure, But I've been to quite a few shows at Motor that were not advertised on their website. Most recently- got to check out Phoenicia and Richie Devine of the Schematic crew in Florida. It was a really cool live show- basically a bunch of Mac Powerbooks making twisted beats and really thick soundscapes- so many layers of sound- my ears were killing but it was totally worth it. For those not familiar, the Schematic label has been putting out lots of good experimental electro stuff- sort of like autechre/rephlex sounds put to electro beats and breakbeats. anyhow there were only like 30 people there- i dont think Motor promoted it at all. p On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Kevin Conrad wrote: I was at the Stewart Walker webpage, and he's listed as playing Motor on Dec. 27. But Motor doesn't list anything for this date. Anyone know if he's really playing? Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]