RE: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t

2006-09-06 Thread Sean Creen
Not directly related to the current discussion, but after 11 years or
so, I'm un-subbing too. The signal to noise ratio has got out of hand
lately and to be honest, there hasn't been a Detroit techno record
that's got me excited much in the last couple of years anyway. I've kept
an eye on the list for news on new stuff I should check out, but I have
to sift through too much rubbish to find any of that info these days and
I don't have the time for it.
I haven't contributed much in the last few years anyway, but thanks to
all the old-timers for our discussions back in the day - its been fun!

Sean.

-Original Message-
From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 06 September 2006 09:02
To: Jason Brunton
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kent williams; list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t

Yeah same here, i have had it with the constant name calling, insults  
and people who's only purpose is to stir up this list. To bad because  
i have always liked 313 because of its politeness compared to other  
mailinglists.

KJ
---
Eevo Lute Muzique
http://www.eevolute.com




On 6-sep-2006, at 9:49, Jason Brunton wrote:

> To be honest John, me too- I'm taking a break after 7  years- might  
> come back in a few months to see if things have gotten any better  
> but frankly I doubt it
>
> bye
>
> Jason
>
>
> On 6 Sep 2006, at 08:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> I agree Kent, but it will be too late for me. I'm outahere.
>>
>> If anyone needs to contact me you can reach me at  
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Don't send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't used that  
>> mailbox in ages due to spam.
>>
>> Take care everybody,
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>> - Oorspronkelijk bericht -
>>> Van: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Verzonden: woensdag, september 6, 2006 12:48 AM
>>> Aan: 'list 313'
>>> Onderwerp: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
>>>
>>> ... and it should stop.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>








RE: (313) ACT

2004-07-30 Thread Sean Creen
I used to listen to a lot of Propaganda, but I recall not being very
impressed with ACT when they came out. Must give them another listen.
Is it just Claudia Brucken, or other members of Propaganda too?

Thanks,
Sean.

-Original Message-
From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 30 July 2004 04:16
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: (313) ACT


Anyone who loves Propaganda should check out the new ZTT anthology by the
group ACT.
I keep on discovering ill groups from the 80s and this is one of them.

First thing to dislodge Jeff Mills' Choice from my player...



Re: Re: (313) Fake Los Hermanos record?

2004-07-28 Thread Sean Creen
> > There is also an IDM artist called Donna Summer :)
> 
> That;s a more concious, satirical type thing.

As far as I know, he's been forced to stop using the name now anyway.



Re: Re: (313) Fake Los Hermanos record?

2004-07-28 Thread Sean Creen
> The Los Hermanos of Rolando and Mitchell is trademarked as the label 
> name, this is an artist who calls himselves Los Hermanos.
>

H, in dance music terms the distinction is a little vague at times, no? 
Underground Resistance is a good example...



Re: Re: (313) Fake Los Hermanos record?

2004-07-28 Thread Sean Creen
> Well i don't think it is a crime to record as Los Hermanos? It never 
> says that is Los Hermanos, produced by Gerald Mitchell and Rolando.

You're joking, surely? Its long established that you can't use a name that's 
already taken to release records (for both legal and moral reasons).
Would it be ok for a rock band to call themselves U2, as long as they don't 
mention Bono or the Edge on the label?



RE: (313) women vs records...

2004-07-02 Thread Sean Creen

>and the first person to use the words "hard" , "black" and "12
>inches" in the same sentence will be immediately deported to Austrailia!

ah, so THAT'S how all those Irish descendents ended up down there! :D 


RE: (313) Not A joke

2004-06-30 Thread Sean Creen
a, my apologies - I misunderstood you.
My point about the Theo worship on the list stands though. Personally, I
stopped buying his stuf after Sound Signature 2. I like his mix cds
though...

-Original Message-
From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 30 June 2004 14:18
To: Sean Creen; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Not A joke


real:

theo is provoking the listmembers by putting a sheet between him and his
audience

it was a feeble attempt at humor, but now that i had to explain it it's even
less funny than before

fab


- Original Message -
From: "Sean Creen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Fabrizio Nahum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 3:08 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Not A joke


>
>
> >he just does it to see what happens on the 313 list..call it a
> provocation
>
> I wasn't going to get involved in this, but the Theo worship on this list
is
> just getting ridiculous. Martin just asked a legitimate question. Is
saying
> something disagreeable about Theo now "provocation"? Get real...
>





RE: (313) Not A joke

2004-06-30 Thread Sean Creen


>he just does it to see what happens on the 313 list..call it a
provocation

I wasn't going to get involved in this, but the Theo worship on this list is
just getting ridiculous. Martin just asked a legitimate question. Is saying
something disagreeable about Theo now "provocation"? Get real...



RE: (313) you listen to techno?

2004-06-15 Thread Sean Creen
My co-workers don't seem too phased by my techno listening habits - its when
I take off my headphones to talk to people and Whitehouse or Merzbow is
blaring out that I get a few raised eyebrows :))

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 June 2004 13:25
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) you listen to techno?



  ...just started working with my current employer about a month ago.  desk
job, cubicle, plenty o' coffee.  anyway, there's a fairly relaxed policy
towards music in cubicles.  as a result, i spend most of my 8hrs. with great
house and techno pumpin' out of my little PC speakers.  naturally, this
being suburban america, i am the only commuter listening to the music of
this list for about 60 miles in all directions.
   i get my fair share of raised eyebrows and cheeky comments from
co-workers that are not familiar with my "weird bass music".  i'm all alone
in a sea of alarmist talk radio, and toby keith anthems.  i'm just curious
if any other list-members are immersed in a similar environment.

cheers,
lrh




RE: (313) Ministry was Re: (313) Playlist WNUR Chicago - 7 May 2004 - download it

2004-05-20 Thread Sean Creen
You weren't all that confused - Jesus Built My Hotrod was around for a good
year or so as a single before the edited version on Psalm 69 came out.
Probably why its a lot better than the rest of the album.
BTW, sorry for the late reply - was away for a while and just catching up on
mail...

Sean.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 May 2004 19:50
To: John Coleman; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Ministry was Re: (313) Playlist WNUR Chicago - 7 May
2004 - download it


Yeah you're right - I was confused

-Original Message-
From: John Coleman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 5:36 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Ministry was Re: (313) Playlist WNUR Chicago - 7 May
2004 - download it


JBMH was actually on Psalm 69. Good track.

Even better was the "sequel" The Butthole Surfers did, "Some Dispute Over
T-Shirt Sales" :)

john.

> i'm quite certain Jesus BMH was after Psalm 69.
>
> Not that you shouldn't like it...
>
>
>
> On Fri, 14 May 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:
>
>> Well said yussel - Psalm 69 was a disappointment to me - too
>> conventional for me. The last thing I liked of theirs was Jesus Built
>> My Hotrod



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RE: (313) S.I.D Shop / Submerge

2004-05-20 Thread Sean Creen

>Yes but sweat electric is also in electro-funk records 

It is?! When did that come out?


RE: (313) Z tracks

2004-05-11 Thread Sean Creen


>Out of interest, how did you get hold of them/it?

A member of UR gave me copies.


RE: (313) Z tracks

2004-05-11 Thread Sean Creen
 I've got 'em 

Sorry, I really don't think it would go down well if i was to start
distributing MP3s of them!
I've got a green one (with "Soulpower") and a blue one - anyone know if any
more exist?

-Original Message-
From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 May 2004 10:47
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Z tracks


Anyone got any,  I haven't ever heard them.

Having finally got all the SID's.. I thought I'd set my sights on
something even more impossible

Even an mp3 or something would be nice.

Placid

www.acid-house.net





(313) Stoking the fire

2004-04-27 Thread Sean Creen
Laurent Garnier? Talking about him is almost as boring as listening to one
of his sets

;D



(313) London 13th-16th May

2004-04-26 Thread Sean Creen
Hi,
I was due to go to the Throbbing Gristle weekend in Sussex on the above
dates, but its been cancelled, so it looks like I'll be spending the weekend
in London instead. Anyone know of any interesting happenings?

Cheers,
Sean.



Re: (313) 10 years?

2004-04-22 Thread Sean Creen
I subscribed in late '94 too -frightening. Been here on and off with various 
e-mail addresses ever since

> 
> From: "Marsel // Nomorewords.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2004/04/22 Thu PM 02:34:13 CDT
> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: (313) 10 years?
> 
> 
> i feel older everyday..
> 
> just thought of subscribing to 313 almost ten years ago... 
> ?
> 
> somewhere sept 1994
> when the first pictures and colours appeared on www
> 
> aaahh well . 
> 
> when did this list 'officially' start?
> 
> how many are left from way back then?
> 
> jason martin, matt macqueen, hans veneman, teep, .. ?
> 
> 
> 



RE: (313) OT Prince LP

2004-04-19 Thread Sean Creen
>anyway, there's a track on this site called "all the critics luv u in
Paris"!
>must be a live version or something..

Yeh, it will be - he did "All the Critics Luv U in Dublin" when i saw him
there a couple of years ago :-)




RE: (313) Putting a Price on good music

2004-04-13 Thread Sean Creen
I only heard the clip on the Peacefrog site, but I didn't like it at all.
The tinkly sounds on it were really irritating and the strings were a bit
cheesy and obvious. Usually, I'm a big fan of Kenny's records too.
I was tempted to buy one anyway to stick on e-bay, but decided it wasn't
fair to people who really want it.

-Original Message-
From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 April 2004 15:51
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Putting a Price on good music



Will probably raise some controversy but the new Kenny larkin on
Peacefrog is worth every penny of the 14.99 I paid

Jus listening to it now...

Emotional Detroit techno at its very best.

placid





RE: (313) fsk - first take then shake

2004-03-25 Thread Sean Creen
John Peel played this last week. It was OK - the only real Shake influence I
could hear was on the drum track.

-Original Message-
From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 March 2004 16:29
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) fsk - first take then shake


this sounds really interesting...anyone heard it?
i used to hear fsk on the radio here in chapel hill quite a bit, cool stuff,
but it's been ages.

http://www.diskob.com/c/fsk/db123.html

F.S.K. are still the most invited non-english band to attend Peel-sessions
and are one of the few german bands besides Can who were granted an entry in
a book called the „Unknown Legends of Rock'N'Roll".

In February 2003 they went to Uphon Studio/Weilheim with engineer Mario
Thaler (The Notwist, Tied + Tickled Trio) for the fourth time and recorded
their new album with one half of the tracks being instrumentals and the
other half (again) songs with lyrics.

The roughmixes of these songs were sent to the Detroit-based afro-american
techno/house legend Anthony "Shake" Shakir. F.S.K goes afro-germanic. In
september Shakir flew to Munich with his sampler and one more week was spend
together with the band in Weilheim producing "First Take Then Shake". A band
Photograph was shot in front of the legendary BMW building: motor cities
united. The first praise of this unusual cooperation already appeared in the
most important german music magazines months before the album's release.

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RE: (313) Da Sampla Re: (313) no sequencers

2004-03-18 Thread Sean Creen
Yep, Piece of Ice (as played on the Claude Yound DJ Kicks mix) was one of
the early Puzzlebox releases...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 March 2004 15:49
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Da Sampla Re: (313) no sequencers



>Shake is Da Sampla...is there more than just the Moods & Grooves release
>out??

not sure, but in the back of my mind I think there might be one on
puzzlebox.

not sure though.
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RE: (313) samples

2004-03-12 Thread Sean Creen
Pretty much every Purposemaker track is based around a looped sample. I
always thought that was kind of the point of those records. I don't hear
much evidence of samples on Axis tracks though...

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 March 2004 10:06
To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Marsel // Nomorewords.net; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) samples


Indeed - never thought of Mills as using that many samples




RE: (313) first techno record - summary

2004-03-05 Thread Sean Creen
SAW2 is genius - in fact I still think its AFX's finest moment.

-Original Message-
From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2004 15:13
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: '313'
Subject: RE: (313) first techno record - summary


joe,

Ive been pondering this. Ive got SAW1 and like it and was thinking of
getting SAW2 but a lot of the reviews don't rate it much. I something to
listen to when I need some headspace, you know when you just wanna chill,
albeit in a darker way than most. Im not keen on all those chill out
compilations, im sure you know what I mean.

D'ya reckon its worth getting hold off and does it still stand out as a good
piece of music.

At the moment Global Communication getting too mush rotation for those
moments and need something else.

Cheers

Rav

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2004 15:02
To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) first techno record - summary


first few techno albums of mine:

air liquide "increased difficulty of concentration
prototype 909 "acid technology"
air liquide "black"
ultramarine "united kingdom"
aphex twin "selected ambient works 2" (not techno, but
related in a weird way)


-Joe



Roughly counting in my head in most mentioned order you
got...

The new dance sound of detroit
808 State
Inner City
Juan Atkins
Strings/The Dance
A Guy Called Gerald
Aphex/FSOL
UR releases
Plastikman

Im quite suprised that 808 are right up there, they made
the charts
in the UK. Didnt realise they were such a big influence
outside of the UK.
Funny how we dismiss homegrown talent. Looks like the Brits
had quite an
influence. Good to see JAtkins, KSanderson and Dmay represented.

Most of the recs were between 88-early 90's.

Here a list of most of them...

speedy j- !ive
basic channel - phylyps trak II 99
Juan Atkins cosmic cars
afrika babbaatas looking for the perfect beat
Giorgio Moroder & Phil Oakey - (together in) Electric
Dreams
Inner City - Big Fun
Plastikman - Sheet One...'93
minus orange/ i-f space invaders are smoking grass
prodigy - the experience
dj skull - raw form anger
Meng Syndicate - Sonar System,
Altern 8 - The Vertigo ep
cybotron 7-inch of "cosmic cars" b/w "the line"
"the rise" by v.d.t. (vorsprung durch techno)
Guy Called Gerald "Voodoo Ray"
Exit 100
Dextrous by Nightmares On Wax
techno - the new dance sound of detroit
Inner City - Big Fun,
Lil' Louis - French Kiss.
808 State - 90,
Orbital - "The Green Album"
Bomb The Bass - Beat Dis (BCM Records) 1988
Strings of life 89 (Kool Kat release)
pump up the volume - Bomb The Bass
b12 electrosoma
Rhythim is rhythim - the dance  89
808 States - Pacific (1989) ZTT
FSOL - Cascade - 93
X101 - 91'ish
Psychofuk on Matrix 1996ish
The Punisher on UR
Dan Bell's "Lost Traxx"
Underworld - dirty epic/cowgirl
The Final Frontier, UR (91)
Inner City - Good Life
808 state gorgeous
X-Men "Professor X" 91
DJ Unknown "Unknown's House" 91
The Future Sound of London - Accelerator (1991)
XL Recordings - The Second Chapter compilation (1991)
Lil' Louis - French Kiss EP (1989) FFRR
808 States - Pacific (1989) ZTT
Jack the Tab - Tekno Acid Beat (1988)
808 State - Ninety (1989)
techno - the new dance sound of detroit
Mr Fingers- Amnesia
Adonis And The Endless Poker- The Poke
Rythym is Rythym- Strings Of Life
Model 500- Off To Battle (UK Jacktrax)
liquid room (1994)
e dancer - heavenly
Damon Wild's Into Battle remixed by Joey Beltram on
Sinewave
Sabres Of Paradise - Sabresonic
Aphex Twin - SAW II
Steve 'Silk' Hurley - Jack Your Body (BCM Records) 1988
New Dance Sound Of Detroit on Ten Records

Special mention to Bomb the Bass who cropped up a few
times. I used to love that
Winter In July track.

Right its Friday, its 12.00. It can only mean a lunchtime
pint. laters.

Rav



RE: (313) TG

2004-03-05 Thread Sean Creen

>what were they listening to to come out with ideas like that around that
time? any idea?

Abba :)


RE: (313) TG

2004-03-05 Thread Sean Creen
To avoid being safe and pointless by being safe and pointless? Ah, I see
now... :))
Anyway, I must try to get hold of a copy of the remixes later to check them
out.

-Original Message-
From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2004 11:33
To: Sean Creen
Cc: 313 mailing list
Subject: Re: (313) TG


Exactly - that's the whole point


5/3/04 11:36 AM Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Sorry to labour the point, but there is very little more "safe and
> pointless" than getting a load of big names in to resequence tracks with a
> 4x4 beat behind them IMO...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 05 March 2004 11:29
> To: Sean Creen; Robert Taylor
> Cc: 313 mailing list
> Subject: Re: (313) TG
>
>
> TG was always a bitter taste but we (TG/PTV/TOPY) always did things to
upset
> the norm and our own fans - it was indeed a full time job. The point being
> we did what we wanted not what you wanted or expected - that was just to
> safe and pointless...
>
>
>
> 5/3/04 11:29 AM Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> The dancefloor was never really the point though. I just strikes me as a
>> dodgy attempt to re-market TG as some kind of proto-dance act and it
> tastes
>> a bit sour...
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 05 March 2004 11:24
>> To: Sean Creen; Martin; ThReE oNe ThReE
>> Subject: RE: (313) TG
>>
>>
>> They've got some great noises on them that can be utilised for the
>> dancefloor, surely?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>




RE: (313) TG

2004-03-05 Thread Sean Creen
Sorry to labour the point, but there is very little more "safe and
pointless" than getting a load of big names in to resequence tracks with a
4x4 beat behind them IMO...

-Original Message-
From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2004 11:29
To: Sean Creen; Robert Taylor
Cc: 313 mailing list
Subject: Re: (313) TG


TG was always a bitter taste but we (TG/PTV/TOPY) always did things to upset
the norm and our own fans - it was indeed a full time job. The point being
we did what we wanted not what you wanted or expected - that was just to
safe and pointless...



5/3/04 11:29 AM Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> The dancefloor was never really the point though. I just strikes me as a
> dodgy attempt to re-market TG as some kind of proto-dance act and it
tastes
> a bit sour...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 05 March 2004 11:24
> To: Sean Creen; Martin; ThReE oNe ThReE
> Subject: RE: (313) TG
>
>
> They've got some great noises on them that can be utilised for the
> dancefloor, surely?
>
>
>




RE: (313) TG

2004-03-05 Thread Sean Creen

>oh and third, I hope it does upset all those that think TG are so pure that
>they shouldn't be remixed - this was the whole mission, one that went from
>TG to PTV to TOPY

remixed, maybe...but not sanitised



RE: (313) TG

2004-03-05 Thread Sean Creen
The dancefloor was never really the point though. I just strikes me as a
dodgy attempt to re-market TG as some kind of proto-dance act and it tastes
a bit sour...

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2004 11:24
To: Sean Creen; Martin; ThReE oNe ThReE
Subject: RE: (313) TG


They've got some great noises on them that can be utilised for the
dancefloor, surely?




RE: (313) TG

2004-03-05 Thread Sean Creen
I've yet to hear the remixes, but I'm still not convinced that its a good
idea. What's the point of turning TG records into "nice" tracks for DJs to
play?

-Original Message-
From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2004 11:17
To: Robert Taylor; ThReE oNe ThReE
Subject: Re: (313) TG


5/3/04 11:19 AM Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Is that Ratcliffe from Basement Jaxx or someone else?
> Can't imagine what the Jaxx would want to do with TG

Yeah, it not as bad as it looks/sounds Rob, nice mid-set track...

Martin



>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 11:13 AM
> To: ThReE oNe ThReE
> Subject: (313) TG
>
>
> Mutant TG promo's are out...
>
> Picks Carl Craig/Weatherall/Ratcliffe
>
> Martin Dust
>
>

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RE: (313) first techno record

2004-03-04 Thread Sean Creen
Plastikman - Sheet One...'93 (unless you want to count Meat Beat Manifesto,
PTV, etc)


-Original Message-
From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 March 2004 3:58
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) first techno record


Just out of interestWhat was the first techno record you bought ?

Mine was Inner City - Big Fun double packed with an Album of remixes. 88 ??

Man that makes me feel old.

Thnks

Rav




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RE: (313) Kenny Larkin @ T-funkshun, UK

2004-03-03 Thread Sean Creen
Has anyone heard Kenny play recently? He's playing in Dublin after the
Kraftwerk gig in a couple of weeks and I'm wondering if he's worth hanging
around for?
I need to get back up to Belfast to get to work the next morning and I don't
want to miss out on a night's sleep to hear someone play dull clubtrax (as a
lot of the Detroit guys seem to when they're in Europe).

Cheers,
Sean.

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yeah i'm pretty sure to be going over for this...



robin...

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>> T-FUNKSHUN 3RD BIRTHDAY
>> KENNY LARKIN (Peacefrog//art of dance)
>
> woo-hoo, happy birthday to my scouse comrades!!
> I have secured a chain to attach my wallet on, and a padlock for my
> lacoste
> shelly, and I'm coming over...
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> (only joking guys, nice one I'm looking forward to it.)
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> alex
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> p.s. anyone else from the list going?
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RE: (313) Jeff Mills on Radio 1 tonite 1 hr special

2004-02-27 Thread Sean Creen
Yeh, well, he does always get his round in...

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Sent: 27 February 2004 13:52
To: Sean Creen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills on Radio 1 tonite 1 hr special


I'd heard that you'd been seen down the Mosley Arms with him Sean, Surge
grassed you up...


27/2/04 1:54 PM Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Can I just take this moment to disown Fergie on behalf of Northern Irish
> techno fans.
> Thanks...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 27 February 2004 13:49
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
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> 
> 
> Wonder if he'll get his name wrong when he introduces him?
> 
> 
> 27/2/04 1:51 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@blueyonder.co.uk
> 
>> Has this been sent? well he is on the fergie show tonight from 11pm
>> 
>> www.bbc.co.uk/radio1
> 
> 
> 




RE: (313) Jeff Mills on Radio 1 tonite 1 hr special

2004-02-27 Thread Sean Creen
Can I just take this moment to disown Fergie on behalf of Northern Irish
techno fans.
Thanks...

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Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills on Radio 1 tonite 1 hr special


Wonder if he'll get his name wrong when he introduces him?


27/2/04 1:51 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@blueyonder.co.uk

> Has this been sent? well he is on the fergie show tonight from 11pm
>
> www.bbc.co.uk/radio1




RE: (313) That Friday Question

2004-02-27 Thread Sean Creen
Kraftwerk and Throbbing Gristle :)

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RE: AW: (313) bands (indie rock)

2004-02-18 Thread Sean Creen
I was a little disappointed by the Franz Ferdinand album, but maybe I need
to give it a few more listens.

Other non-electronic bands/acts I've been listening to a lot recently:

Black Keys, Fiery Furnaces, The Coral, Devendra Barnhart, British Sea Power.

There have been a surprising number of good rock/indie/whatever/albums over
the last year or so. The Black Keys "Thickfreakness" was probably the best
rock album of last year.

As for Flaming Lips, it should be easy enough to pick up "Yoshimi.." on
vinyl, although anything older might be tricky.

Cheers,
Sean.

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Hey, thanks alot Carlos.

>. new franz ferdinand lp is very good

oh yeah, forgot to say, bought the 7" single, not got the LP yet.

>3. Also recommended: new f.s.k (german "art-folk-rock" combo, existing
>for more than 20 years...) meets anthony "shake" shakir - "first take,
>then shake", due to be released on german label disko b.

that sounds very interesting, cheers. will look out for Naked Lunch too.

ta!

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RE: (313) what you listening to right now?

2004-01-28 Thread Sean Creen

>I've just ordered that - what's it like?

Quality from beginning to end. The unreleased tracks are almost as good as
the classics. You shouldn't be disappointed...



RE: (313) what you listening to right now?

2004-01-28 Thread Sean Creen
>313-related things I've been enjoying lately include the Sterac comp on
Peacefrog,

doh! of course, I meant the Stasis comp. That's what listening to Merzbow
does to you ;)



RE: (313) what you listening to right now?

2004-01-28 Thread Sean Creen

>
> ok quiet list.
>
> what you listening to right now?
>

Merzbow - A Taste of

313-related things I've been enjoying lately include the Sterac comp on
Peacefrog, and (perhaps controversially) the Mills See The Light series...

Sean.



RE: (313)Random Drums / was Red Planet 9

2004-01-23 Thread Sean Creen
Its also a way of making sure that the track doesn't become just a mixing
tool; i.e. its necessary to let the track play on its own up to a certain
point, before starting to bring in the next one. This ensures that a larger
portion of the track is played and that there are no other sounds
"interfering" with it.

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Subject: Re: (313)Random Drums / was Red Planet 9



On 23-jan-04, at 16:32, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote:

> Continuing from Kens' message, does anyone have any "theories" as to
> why so
> many of the producers create these weird and completely out of time
> breakdowns/start ups?

I recon that people do it because it sounds cool and they don't really
think about dj's when making a track (well at least i don't)


> One suggestion I have heard is that it is "easier" to switch the
> machines
> "off" to achieve the small silence, due to their analogue nature, but
> I'm
> not sure about this. I'm not sure, because when this theory was
> raised, we
> were listening to a Rob Hood record, and if Rob wants silence, he can
> get it
> from his machines, right? My theory is that it is designed to spaz out
> the
> dancefloor..at the risk of causing chaos for DJ's
>
> What do you think???
>
> -Original Message-
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
> Subject: (313) Red Planet 9
>
>
>
> Ten seconds please: dismissed 'Revenge of The Wolf' for months, but
> having
> dug out it again and *used* it, I have to say, it is very, very deep,
> wierd
> and quite sick - and a great tool ...  as long as you don't take a
> chance
> with the second breakdown.
>
> Happy Fridays,
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RE: (313) Throbbing Gristle - Hot On The Heels Of Love - Carl Craog Remix

2004-01-19 Thread Sean Creen
Probably the re-edit he played in the set that was posted on here a while
ago?
There's a Throbbing Gristle remix album coming out shortly, so its probably
going to be on that. Personally, the idea fills me with dread, but there you
go...

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RE: (313) axis

2004-01-15 Thread Sean Creen
tom wrote:

"but thats a pretty decent sized market to basically
neglect despite its relative proximity to places he has lived.
instead he'll play lost again, or whatever hip techno club there
is in germany again. its kind of annoying, really. "

He'll play wherever he's booked to play, which as has already been
mentioned, is largely down to his agent. Agents form relationships with
promoters and the same acts tend to deal with the same promoters over a
period of time. I don't think its necessarily something to take personally.
I share your frustration a lot of the time. It takes a long time for a lot
of DJs to play here in Belfast (Mills hadn't done until pretty recently),
but once they do play, they tend to return to the same club multiple times.




RE: (313) axis

2004-01-15 Thread Sean Creen
I ordered See/The/Light from the Axis website and it came to slightly over
20 quid, including postage. Seems pretty reasonable to me. If a shop is
over-charging, don't use it...

Sean.



RE: (313) new dbx

2004-01-13 Thread Sean Creen

>anyone else feel this way or is it just me?

Very much so - I was going to post earlier, but I thought I'd give the
tracks the benefit of the doubt since I'd only heard the RA samples; but
since you ask, I thought the tracks were a huge disappointment. I doubt I'll
be buying them, which is a bit of a shock to me.

Sean.



RE: (313) Assault on Precinct 13

2003-12-18 Thread Sean Creen


>but anyway, if anyone knows where i might get that 80s mix, I'm listening..

You mean the version with the added scratches,etc? I picked it up a few
years ago on a label called "Club Classics" - never heard of the label
before or since, so I suspect its a bootleg. Its also got the Theme from
Bladerunner on it.



RE: (313) carl craig quiz

2003-12-11 Thread Sean Creen

Its Everything in its Right Place from Kid A

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Just listening to it at the moment. It's Radiohead, but can't remember 
the name of the track.

>sorry, back to the mix of carl craig's, I got a q or two.
>
>the 'song' after throbbing gristle - what is it, it's really bugging me, I
>heard it somewhere recently and can't remember what it is. Quite a famous
>song, fairly recent I think.
>
>also, the track after that, old thing, anyone know what that is?
>
>thanks!
>
>alex
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RE: (313) little carl craig mix

2003-12-11 Thread Sean Creen
>I also disagree about Chris, Sleazy played a massive party, and so did
Gen...


Musically, I really don't think this is the case. Sleazy did develop his
musical input over time, but was initailly really just there in a
"consulting" role and was responsible for visuals, etc. Just how gifted Gen
is musically is demonstrated by the awful standard of most PTV releases
after Sleazy, Balance, Tibet, etc left him to his own devices.



RE: (313) little carl craig mix

2003-12-11 Thread Sean Creen

>Not that big a fan of Chris and Cosey, Liked her painting more than the
music...

Strange, I would say the Hot on the Heels (which you like) was pretty much a
blueprint for the Chris and Cosey sound. They certainly came closest to
pursuing that sound out of all of the post-TG projects.
Remember also, at this stage, Chris Carter probably had more musical input
into TG than the rest of the band put together.





RE: (313) little carl craig mix

2003-12-11 Thread Sean Creen
Hi Martin,
are you talking about the version of United that was on the first Sabres
release, or did he do other remixes too?

Cheers,
Sean.

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Subject: Re: (313) little carl craig mix


Sounds like a sampled loop underneath and then into the track Alex -
Although Andy Weatherall did do some remixes a long time ago - fantastic
version of United - never did find out what happened to those. I've had
loads of people ask me about Hot On The Heels since I added it to the last
Dust Boys mix...


11/12/03 10:51 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@uk.pwc.com

>
>> My question is: what is the wonderfull track he plays after "maurizio -
>> domina (carl craig mix)"?
>> It starts around 5 minutes and goes on till minute 8
>
> I was listening too! I thought from your description maybe it was a new
> Rotating Assembley track - but it doesn't sound like it really does it.
>
> Also, he's playing throbbing gristle underneath it too for quite a while.
> (which then comes in after) - unless the track has a TG sample.
>
> but, yes, it's a nice track. check the "hot on the heels of love" edit as
> well. (straight after). anyone know who's edit this is? Carl's?
>
> alex
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Re: Re: (313) Kraftwerk on tour

2003-11-29 Thread Sean Creen
The Dublin tickets went on sale this morning too and it looks like its sold out 
already - good thing I got up early to get mine \:D/


> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oliver Ruehl)
> Date: 2003/11/29 Sat AM 09:33:38 CST
> To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: Re: (313) Kraftwerk on tour
> 
> hi there
> 
> tickets for the shows in Holland and Germany are for sale since this
> morning.
> 
> I allready have mine
> 
> hope to see some of you there...
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
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> To: "Bleep43" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Oliver Ruehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:06 PM
> Subject: RE: (313) Kraftwerk on tour
> 
> 
> > what a day for England :)  not only do we win the
> > rugby world cup ( sorry for being patriotic others ) we also had this
> email
> > come through...bleeding mavellous
> >
> > so I'll see you all there, front left yeah? :)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bleep43 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 22 November 2003 11:02
> > To: Oliver Ruehl; 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (313) Kraftwerk on tour
> >
> >
> > *jumps up and down very excitedly*
> >
> > Woohoo!
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Oliver Ruehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: (313) Kraftwerk on tour
> >
> >
> > > hi there
> > >
> > > new show has been added:
> > >
> > > London Brixton Academy
> > > Saturday March 20 8:00 PM (doors 6:30 PM)
> > > STRAIGHT PRESENTS: KRAFTWERK
> > > until 10pm / no support
> > > Tickets £22.50 on sale Tuesday November 25 at 9:00 AM
> > >
> > > http://www.ticketweb.co.uk
> > >
> > > http://www.brixton-academy.co.uk
> > >
> > > best wishes,
> > >
> > > oli
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Greg Earle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 8:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: (313) Kraftwerk on tour
> > >
> > >
> > > > Martin wrote:
> > > > > 4rm LD
> > > > > Londoners should keep their eyes open and CC ready for Mar 18.
> > > >
> > > > Bloody buggery bollocks.  And here I arrive in London on the 31st ...
> > > >
> > > > (Damn.  Don't think I'd be much good trying to lig it down to Barca or
> > > Madrid
> > > >  on easyJet, all jet-lagged out ... <*sigh*>)
> > > >
> > > > Glenn McClements wrote:
> > > > > In answer to my own question, http://www.ticktackticket.com/ are
> > selling
> > > > > them.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.ticktackticket.com/ttt/minternet/pkg_lista_eventos.lista_eventos?
> > claves=Kraftwerk&p_usuario=&p_idioma=CAS&p_origen=0
> > > >
> > > > Methinks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.ticktackticket.com/ttt/minternet/pkg_lista_eventos.lista_eventos?
> > cla
> > > > ves=Kraftwerk&p_usuario=&p_idioma=ING&p_origen=0
> > > >
> > > > is a bit easier for us English-speaking folk  :-)
> > > >
> > > > On another note, did anyone get xKiddYrAvErx's Kraftwerk MPEG to work?
> > > > The OS X QuickTime Player gagged on it, and even VLC choked on it
> about
> > > > 13 seconds in ...
> > > >
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RE: (313) Revise in suggestion for techno music to be used in wedding march?

2003-11-07 Thread Sean Creen
In: Journey of the Dragons
Out: Strings of Life

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Sent: 07 November 2003 08:18
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Revise in suggestion for techno music to be used in
wedding march?


 HI all,

Anybody on the list could suggest your ideal track to play for the wedding
march in and also the wedding march out? It has to be about 6 minutes long
for the each duration.

Your techno friend in Singapore,

Collin





RE: (313) Surgeon Track list for you

2003-10-29 Thread Sean Creen
Just a re-edit he's done - the joys of Final Scratch :-)

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>Kraftwerk - Its More Fun To Compute (Surgeon Remake)

is this an edit or something? or has it come out?

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RE: (313) Interview/Surgeon

2003-10-29 Thread Sean Creen
This seems to be a very common misapprehension and I've never quite worked
out why - I'd challenge you to find any Surgeon tracks that sound like Mills
at all on anything but the most cursory of listens. In fact, when almost
every other european techno producer was churning out PurposeMaker by
numbers a few years back, he was one of the very few producing interesting,
innovative and musical material.

Sean.

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To: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) Interview/Surgeon


Funny when he's such a Mills biter. ;)

> i seem to remember him being surprised that mills was
> playing Magneze and Move so much in '95.  he's frankly
> not very 'into' detroit.
>



RE: (313) Interview/Surgeon

2003-10-28 Thread Sean Creen
He did a remix of Teenage Lightning. The remixes were meant to be included
on a bonus 12" in a box set of Scatology, Horse Rotorvatotor and Love's
Secret Domain, but the box set never appeared. He opened his set at All
Tomorrow's Parties with the remix...

Sean.

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Sent: 28 October 2003 00:48
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Interview/Surgeon


Ask Surgeon, if he ever remixed Coil?  There was a rumor that there were
some Surgeon and Autechre remixes of Coil.  I heard about that ages ago, I
wonder why they never came out.




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>Subject: (313) Interview/Surgeon
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RE: (313) orbit

2003-10-17 Thread Sean Creen

> claude young played his first ever (and only?) live set at orbit one new
year

nope, he also played live in Belfast (around '97 if fuzzy memory serves
correctly). I don't know of any others though...

Sean.



RE: (313) TG Reunion - was Re: (313) GPO & Acid House Connection

2003-10-10 Thread Sean Creen
I will most certainly be there - booked already :-)
Has anyone heard any more line-up details since the original announcement?
Sunday is looking dangerous already (Pansonic, Merzbow and TG in a row!)

Sean.

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To: Chris Anglesey; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) TG Reunion - was Re: (313) GPO & Acid House Connection


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To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 8:44 PM
Subject: (313) GPO & Acid House Connection


> BTW - Are any other 313'ers off to the Throbbing Gristle re-union concert
in
> Sussex,
> UK next May.  3 days of madness with TG, Chris & Cosey (now called Carter
> Tutti),
> Coil, Scanner, Richard H Kirk, Pansonic, Andrew Weatherall etc. etc.  If
so,
> pls
> post me privately if you fancy hooking up.


I think a bunch of people on Overload were planning on going when it was
announced, and since the bulk of that board have migrated to Little Detroit,
you may wanna ask there. We good peepz. :) I hope to go, but I've got tons
of travel planned for May and June, so may not be able to afford it. :/

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RE: (313) (Uncredited) Aril Brikha tracks used in Gameboy Advance game

2003-09-22 Thread Sean Creen
Yeh, Tony did the tracks for the game, then put them out on the EPs...

-Original Message-
From: Matt Hellige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 September 2003 17:04
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) (Uncredited) Aril Brikha tracks used in Gameboy
Advance game


[Sean Creen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> He's credited on the PS2 version alright. The music on Midnight Club was
> great (all licensed from Transmat, Counterbalance and Moving Shadow). Pity
> the game's cr*p...

Presumably the fact that the game is called "Midnight Club Street
Racing" and the fact that CBX 4 and 5 are called "Midnight Club
Tracks" is more than coincidence. Anybody know which way the influence
went?

Matt

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RE: (313) (Uncredited) Aril Brikha tracks used in Gameboy Advance game

2003-09-22 Thread Sean Creen
He's credited on the PS2 version alright. The music on Midnight Club was
great (all licensed from Transmat, Counterbalance and Moving Shadow). Pity
the game's cr*p...

Sean.

-Original Message-
From: Roland van Oorschot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 September 2003 16:56
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) (Uncredited) Aril Brikha tracks used in Gameboy Advance
game


I was browsing through my GBA Rom's today and booted the game 'Midnight
Club Street
Racing'  (http://www.dsigames.com/modules.php?name=DSI-Games-Midnightclub).
"Hey! That sound's familiar! That's 'Groove La Chord' from Aril Brikha!"

Some other snippets from other Brikha tracks are used too and he's not
credited in the game-credits.

Proof:
http://home.wanadoo.nl/rolando/mp3/brikha-gba.avi

(approx. 7Mb + encoded in DivX!)

I wonder if Aril Brikha knows this...

R.

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RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...

2003-09-08 Thread Sean Creen

Vespertine is a vastly superior album to Tour de France soundtracks on every
level


-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 September 2003 10:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...


A few years ago I was at a gig by Daft Punk's Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo
(excellent, excellent dj who deliberately keeps a low profile, a lot of
people don't even know he's also a member of that group). He was playing a
beautiful (and wide-ranging) set and the knowledgeable crowd was being very
appreciative. Then suddenly, the first finger-nails
scratching-down-a-blackboard-black-board-like screeches of Bjork pierced out
of the speakers as he decided to push the boundaries even further. I winced.
As I glanced around, I noticed many people doing similar things, some people
started to leave the floor. With consumate skill though, Guy picked up the
sentiment in a flash and the track never materialized. Moral of the story:
be as wide ranging and as experimental as you like, but pls don't inflict
lack of talent masquerading as something else on to people who have a
slightly more discerning ear than the average, as it just won't work!

k

>-Original Message-
>From: Cobert, Gwendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 9:52 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>Subject: RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...
>
>
>Actually, I'm another one who's got trouble with Bjork ...
>This being said, I still have respect for her because of her
>ability to bring together people from all scenes, graphically and
>musically - look at the remixes mentioned, it almost reads like a
>who's who of electronic music !
>Gwendal
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 10:45 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>> Subject: RE: (313) Bjork Recommendations...
>>
>>
>> OK, I'll come clean - it's me. I'm the only person on this
>> list who can't
>> stand Bjork. Imo she's not original in any way: Bowie, Bush,
>> Joplin, Nico et
>> al
>> all did what Bjork does first and a lot better + unlike Bjork, they
>> could/can sing. People taking her songs and marrying them up
>> to structures
>> with a more dance floor-orientated sensibility, doesn't
>> disguse the fact
>> that they're bloody awful compositions in the first place.
>> Therefore, my
>> Bjork recommendation would be to listen to
>> something else. My (not so) humble opinion.
>>
>> k
>>
>



RE: (313)ableton/finalscratch?

2003-08-26 Thread Sean Creen


>I was able to run Ableton an Traktor at once, and since FS now runs in
>special version of traktor it should be possible.

So, does FS not require a BeOS partition any more?


RE: (313) n.e.w. Prince!

2003-08-08 Thread Sean Creen
I haven't downlaoded the album, but I saw him play last year and the first
half of the show was all extended jazz funk jams - if the album is along the
same lines, it'll be good...

Sean.

-Original Message-
From: spacecrusher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 August 2003 19:27
To: 313@hyperreal.org; David Powers
Subject: Re: (313) n.e.w. Prince!


>Anybody heard this??
>_D

Yeah, I downloaded the "preview".

a bit dramatic with all the video...but it actually
was good - like a heavy epic kind of funk.  I'm not
sure if their byline "More Miles Davis than James Brown"
really applies, but something like that.

Also, that "Work It Pt. II" video is pretty jammin'-
live in Vegas and featuring Maceo Parker!!


>-- Original Message -
>Subject: (313) n.e.w. Prince!
>Date: Tue,  5 Aug 2003 18:18:32 -0700
>From: "spacecrusher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <313@hyperreal.org>
>
>
>http://entertainment.msn.com/netcal/?netcal=395
>




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Re: Re: (313) Movement pictures @ TechnoTourist.org

2003-07-25 Thread Sean Creen
The loop-based sets that Ben plays aren't really a good indication of his 
skills. His knowledge of electronic music is very wide and he is definitely one 
of the most technically skilled DJs on the circuit, but I agree that this 
doesn't make a whole set of loops very interesting. 
You should hear him play sometime when he's covering a broader range. It's 
incredible. 
http://www.bensims.com used to have some older mixes on it, including a 
313-based one. Not sure if they're still up there...

Sean.
> 
> From: Jason Brunton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/07/25 Fri AM 04:16:26 CDT
> To: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: Re: (313) Movement pictures @ TechnoTourist.org
> 
> A friend of mine goes on about him being one of the most talented DJs  
> in the UK too but when I heard him I also fell into a deep slumber
> 
> Jason
> 
> 
> On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 11:13 AM, Robert Taylor wrote:
> 
> > He's one of the dullest DJs I've ever heard - I have a mix CD of his  
> > which is OK but the 2 times I have heard him, he has played very  
> > boring loopy crap - he is a very skilled DJ but all the tricks in the  
> > world won't stop me falling asleep
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: ian cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:26 PM
> > To: Kent williams; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: Hans Veneman; 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (313) Movement pictures @ TechnoTourist.org
> >
> >
> > and who said men can't multitask :)
> >
> > by the way I just thought what people's thought's were on Ben Sims ?
> >
> > I think he is one of the most talented DJ's to come from the UK and I  
> > think
> > he is the best  DJ from the UK..any thoughts? have you heard him  
> > lately cos
> > he seems to be getting better and better, its quite scary :)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 23 July 2003 16:22
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: ian cheshire; Hans Veneman; 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (313) Movement pictures @ TechnoTourist.org
> >
> >
> > The cool thing about watching Mills spin is that the top half of his
> > body moves like a move sped up to twice speed, while the bottom half
> > of his body is dancing.
> >
> > On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> And the Mills one where his hands move so quick it's just a blur -  
> >> great
> >> picture!
> >>
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Re: Re: (313) Metal & Techno (was: Best lines to the DJ)

2003-07-16 Thread Sean Creen
> Ask Sean Creen about the Rock cover version of The Model we heard 
> coming out of a grungy bar last Friday in glasgow
> 

Sadly, its true; not that there's anything wrong with rock cover versions of 
the Model per se (the Big Black version is excellent, but then i have 
Albini-tinted spectacles), but this one was BDD. We didn't stick around 
long enough to hear if they followed it with some Telex and Liasons Dangereuses 
covers...

Sean.



(313) Tour de France

2003-07-09 Thread Sean Creen
Am I the only person who is thoroughly disappointed by the new version of
Tour de France? Its sounds like it could have been randomly pulled from one
of the faceless piles of facile tech-house that arrive in record shops every
day.
I don't see any reason for this record to exist at all and I honestly find
that quite sad...

Sean.



RE: (313) track id HERE COMES THE SUN

2003-07-04 Thread Sean Creen
Yep, and its a perfect bridge between the two - easily my favourite Beatles
album. IMO its much more psychedelic in the real sense than Sgt Pepper,
which is kind of over-blown in places and definitely too clean overall.
Now somebody try to tell me the Beatles are off-topic on ANY music list :-)

Sean.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 July 2003 16:36
To: Lester Kenyatta Spence
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) track id HERE COMES THE SUN


I think it came out in 66, between Rubber Soul and Sgt Pepper

-Original Message-
From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 2:33 PM
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) track id HERE COMES THE SUN


On Fri, 4 Jul 2003, Robert Taylor wrote:

> Revolver

No...where is this album in their chronology?


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RE: (313) dc-15 cd (was: dc-16)

2003-06-24 Thread Sean Creen
It was a limited edition CD available through their website a while back.
They only pressed the number that were preordered, so there won't be any
spare copies floating around. Its pretty good, but I wouldn't go paying
silly prices for it (unless you wanna buy my copy :-))

Sean.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 June 2003 16:20
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) dc-15 cd (was: dc-16)


what is the DC15 cd?
there was samples of everything else.
is this a rerelease of the earlier cd they had a couple of years ago the
1-6?
any place to listen or buy?
is there track list, any info.

scotto

> http://www.deepchord.com/index2.html
>
>
> Not too sure about new webpage though, once you scroll down records how
> are you supposed to get back up??
>
click reload works and if you keep going it goes back to the top
but that is funny that there is no up arrow.



(313) From Jason Brunton

2003-06-20 Thread Sean Creen
Jason asked me to forward this to the list as he can't post directly right
now...


Hello troopers!

I've been keeping radio silence over the last month or two following my
recent move back from Amsterdam to Glasgow so sorry for anyone who has been
trying to get in touch- been up to my neck in decorating my flat and its
hard to write e-mails and paint ceilings at the same time (the Iridite
secretary is on holiday so I can't even dictate my letters- tsk).

A big thank you to everyone who has been saying nice things on 313 about us-
the Submerge thing means we are now finally available in the US  and Syntax
in New York should also have some stock by the time of the next release.  As
alway, anyone who is having problems getting our stuff should contact me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will see what I can do.

>Minto said (re: Rei Loci):

>This is what i call "pump your fist toughness no playin' around techno"

Great decription Minto!  The only problem is that some people associate
"toughness" and "no playin' around" with monotonous Hawtin-esque/Pounding
Grooves stuff and if you've heard Rei's music then that isn't the case at
all- i knew exactly where you were coming form though.
I showed this comment to Rei yesterday and he agreed wholeheartedly and
started strutting around his living room pumping his fist in the air with
his top off shouting "yeah! YEAH!" which was a bit worrying.

More Iridite related stuff- as Tom mentioned, Rei has another solo Ep due on
Emoticon pretty soon as well as his current Ep on Seventh Sign and a track
on the current Headspace release.  I have an remix on New York's Big Chief
records- Jay J and Julius Papp- Midnight Star due in the next few weeks and
then its time for another Iridite Ep.  IR004- Iridite Productions present-
Electron Music.  4 Trax- me, Rei and two new talents, Marco Bernardi and
Jamie Greer- release date set for late August.  Also got another couple of
Laws Of Motion related EPs but they are on hold due to Ideal (one of the
biggest independant distibutors in the UK) going bankrupt a week or so ago.

Anyway, sorry for the legnth of this mail- just wanted to publiclly say a
big thanks to everyone who has given us support over the last while- its all
well appreciated and of course a big thanks to DJ3000 at Submerge- decent
guy with great taste in music :)

cheers

Jason Brunton
Iridite

PS I'm really trying my best to remove all traces of emotion and human feel
from the next Iridite release especially for stevepwats- the other Iridite
members can't quite understand my  new found quest to musically illustrate
my post-apocoliptic vision of future reality, but they will ..when I replace
all their grey matter with circuit boards, dress them up in tinfoil and
replace their innards with old Z80 processors- ah aha ah aha ah ah (evil
gloat!).  One day robots will rule the Earth! Resistance is futile etc  etc
etc.



Re: RE: (313) OT (was: Laurent Garnier's troubles)

2003-06-07 Thread Sean Creen
Can I suggest that this is taken off-list and everyone goes and reads some Noam 
Chomsky?



(313) Scion booking

2003-06-03 Thread Sean Creen
Sorry, I deleted the original mail, so I couldn't send this privately. Scion
can be booked through Trresor...

Sean.



RE: (313) Track ID: (313) esg @ movement

2003-05-28 Thread Sean Creen

Sounds like Moodymann - Music People...


-Original Message-
From: dj337is [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 May 2003 17:24
To: 'Placid'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Track ID: (313) esg @ movement


Just before ESG went on the DJ played a track that had "Welcome to my
world of music" (or something like that) as the main vocal hook.  It was
an extended workout with horns, percussion, and sounded like it fit
neatly on any of the older disco labels.

Any clues who it is?  I'd like to hear it again.

ESG did rock...I kept thinking it was kinda' like seeing an early
Talking Heads with that minimal shuffle.  Great show.

Thanks.

Leslie





RE: (313) RE: Homelands Review...

2003-05-27 Thread Sean Creen

>Some of the more modish members of this list might take umbrage at the
>suggestion that a Ben Sherman shirt makes you a boil on the arse of dance
>music. If there good enough for Soutport they're good enough for
>Homelands... ;)


A yes, but there are WAYS of wearing a Ben Sherman ;-)
How off-topic is this?




(313) movement webcast?

2003-05-23 Thread Sean Creen
Sorry if this has already been covered, but is anyone hosting a webcast from 
the Movement fest this year?

Thanks,
Sean.



RE: (313) Re: Suburban Knight

2003-05-19 Thread Sean Creen
Ken wrote...

> Well I want it solely because I've totally managed to miss "The Art Of
>Stalking" throughout all the various versions over the years. So no gripes
>from me about this being only 50% new ...

The really cool thing about the album is how the old material fits right in
with the new stuff and still sounds totally fresh. Been playing this a lot
recently, along with the new CiM and the Double Helix ep on Emoticon.
BTW, I'm going to see Radiohead tonight - totally  off-topic, but I thought
it might make some of you jealous :D

Sean.



RE: (313) Subject: Re: (313) Moodymann Ltd edition Peacefrog ep

2003-05-14 Thread Sean Creen
All gone already :-(

-Original Message-
From: David Hampson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 May 2003 15:32
To: Placid; 313 mailing list
Subject: RE: (313) Subject: Re: (313) Moodymann Ltd edition Peacefrog ep


Spoke to Smallfish - they have 15 copies that have just gone on their
website...

David




RE: (313) DJ Bone Radio1 Mix 2002 - Track id

2003-05-14 Thread Sean Creen
Its UR -Amazon...

Sean.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 May 2003 13:28
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) DJ Bone Radio1 Mix 2002 - Track id



Hi, i'm listening to this mix right now and am wondering what the second
track is, the one right after scan 7 - you have the right, is this by Aux
88?


Remco





Re: (313) Claude Young-Thoughts of Phutura / AXIS 033 ???

2003-05-08 Thread Sean Creen
Word has it that this is the first in a series of releases on Axis from Claude. 
AFAIK, the next will be a mini-album. More info when I have it...

Sean.

> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arne Weinberg)
> Date: 2003/05/08 Thu PM 01:48:00 CDT
> To: "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: (313) Claude Young-Thoughts of Phutura / AXIS 033 ???
> 
> Anybody has any infos on that release?
> 
> Claude Young - Thoughts of Phutura / Axis 033
> 
> I found that in the Axis homepage online shop and it's sold out. there 
> seem to exist only 100 copies
> Does anybody know what's up with that?
> 
> Claude Young the first artist than Jeff Mills (and Rob Hood formerly) on 
> Axis? Whew! I want to hear that
> 
> Infos please!
> 
> 
> Cheers, Arne
> 
> P.S.: The new Every dog has it's day part 4 is excellent by the way!
> 
> -- 
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RE: (313) UNSPECIFIED ENEMIES

2003-05-08 Thread Sean Creen
I think vol 1 was a promo mix tape, which is actually an even better mix
than vol 2 imo. Maybe DJ Bone is still on the list and can confirm that it
only came out on this format?

Sean.

-Original Message-
From: Stuart Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 May 2003 15:44
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) UNSPECIFIED ENEMIES


on a side note, i've got subject detroit vol2 mix cdby dj bone, so that
means there a vol 1 somewhere.
does anyone have any info on it?

stuart

>Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 11:38:09 +1000
>To: ryan burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: David Gillies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (313) UNSPECIFIED ENEMIES

>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>ryan burns wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for a track called
> >
> > -Unspecified Enemies   Multi Original Tracking Unit
> >
> > dj bone played it on his first mix cd a while back.  i remember talk
> > about this record around a year ago.
> > does anyone know where i can get oneor any info about it
>
>If you can find the Subject Detroit Vol.2 12" double pack, its on there.
>

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RE: (313) Re: Jaguar

2003-05-06 Thread Sean Creen

>If memory serves me correctly a major label did offer to sign jaguar with
>the possibility of remixes but UR and DJ Rolando declined.

Maybe because they already planned a re-release with major remixers, in full
colour sleeve, with major distribution, etc?



Re: Re: (313) heads-only techno? nah

2003-05-05 Thread Sean Creen
> Jaguar had a chance to blow up in the late 90's but DJ Rolando chose to stay
> underground.

This simply isn't true. Jaguar was milked for all it was worth. It got a hell 
of a lot of publicity out of the whole Sony thing, had a promo video made, and 
Rolando got serious juice in terms of gigs (where he played the track multiple 
times, plus a lot of other much more commercial tracks than had previously been 
in his sets) out of all of this.
None of this is to excuse what Sony tried to do, or to dis how UR dealt with 
the situation, but to say that it could have blown up if Rolando had chosen to 
let it is pure bullshit (IMO, of course ;-).

Sean.



Re: Re: (313) Rushhour [ OT ]

2003-05-05 Thread Sean Creen
I agree. Marsel is sussed enough to know you shouldn't be e-mailing CC numbers. 
They asked my to phone or fax mine a while back and have just kept it on file 
since...
Sounds a bit dodgy.

> 
> From: "[-[-]-[]-[|]-]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/05/05 Mon PM 01:15:06 CDT
> To: "Sean Creen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
>"Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: Re: (313) Rushhour [ OT ]
> 
> sounds like maybe someone got ahold of their contact list and is trying to
> scam CC numbers?
> 
> I'd definately follow-up on that
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sean Creen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 2:14 PM
> Subject: Re: (313) Rushhour [ OT ]
> 
> 
> > Yeh, they're consistently reliable. I've ordered plenty of times and never
> had a problem. Maybe give them a call?
> >
> > Sean.
> >
> > >
> > > From: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: 2003/05/05 Mon PM 12:48:20 CDT
> > > To: "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org>
> > > Subject: (313) Rushhour [ OT ]
> > >
> > >
> > > I got an email back from them two weeks ago asking for my CC, saying my
> > > order was ready, and I haven't received anything yet. I tried emailing
> them
> > > 3x but no response..
> > >
> > > Anyone else have experience with them?
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Peter Grammenos
> > > Goldman Sachs & Co.
> > > Tel : 212.902.2446
> > > ---
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 



Re: (313) Rushhour [ OT ]

2003-05-05 Thread Sean Creen
Yeh, they're consistently reliable. I've ordered plenty of times and never had 
a problem. Maybe give them a call?

Sean.

> 
> From: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/05/05 Mon PM 12:48:20 CDT
> To: "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: (313) Rushhour [ OT ]
> 
> 
> I got an email back from them two weeks ago asking for my CC, saying my
> order was ready, and I haven't received anything yet. I tried emailing them
> 3x but no response..
> 
> Anyone else have experience with them?
> 
> --- 
> Peter Grammenos 
> Goldman Sachs & Co. 
> Tel : 212.902.2446 
> --- 
> 
> 
> 



RE: (313) electro house is taking over (maybe not just in OZ)

2003-04-29 Thread Sean Creen
As far as I remember, that term was first used by Simon Reynolds to describe
the Berlin sound, but then everything seems to revolve around drugs as far
as that excuse for a journalist is concerned...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 April 2003 15:56
To: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet
Cc: 313 mailing list
Subject: Re: (313) electro house is taking over (maybe not just in OZ)


I heard someone call Theo Parrish's stuff 'heroin house'

Quoting Tom Robbins/Magic Feet
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Nah, Dad House is deep house. The 'correct' term
> for electro-house is 'Death
> Disco' or 'Disco Punk'. Pay attention, people!
> :-)
>
> Cheers!
> TOM
>
>
> >I thought it was called "dad house"!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Odeluga, Ken
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> Semi-seriously though: a lot of house music does
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> a bit too polite of late. Even though I have
> enjoyed virtually everything
> I've heard from Geist and Jesrani et al, I do
> think that they have
> contributed rather a lot to a trend of too
> clean, rather tame and
> 'uneccentric' house. Which is why I've somewhat
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> because that was all that was
> possible at the time (I'm talking pre-1990) from
> the technology available..
> Also, what new stuff I buy has to have some sort
> of edge. I'm a bit mad, so
> is the world, so is everyone I know! I
> appreciate slightly flaky house too.
> I tend to plump for a lot of European stuff,
> some minimalist things,
> Cologne/Vienna/Berlin sort of things, Brinkmann,
> even some Gigolo (but
> choose that carefully!): e.g. That "Punishment"
> EP thing by David Carretta
> from 02 (I think) is still very very spine
> tingling ... I saw Morgan Geist's
> remix of the House of Jealous Lovers track, by
> the DFA, a white, avant-rock
> sort of New York(?) group - a much rougher work
> than one would normally
> associate with that Geist - as partial
> vindication of my burgeoning thoughts
> (which are all natch, mho.)
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> k
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RE: (313) That Friday Question

2003-04-28 Thread Sean Creen

>or just a bunch of 2 bar loops in the Beyer, Downwards, Surgeon style.

Not to kick off another off-topic thread, but there is a whole world of
difference between dull, Beyer-style loop techno and the music produced by
Surgeon, Regis, etc. Its pretty insulting to lump them together...

Sean.



Re: RE: (313) Surgeon questions

2003-04-22 Thread Sean Creen
Its definitely the Heckman remix of Join In The Chant that he's been playing...

Sean.

> 
> From: "Max Duley / ARCart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/04/22 Tue PM 02:30:39 CDT
> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: RE: (313) Surgeon questions
> 
> regarding the Nitzer Ebb track he played, it could be one of those mentioned
> (I don't know the remixes or the originals) but it could well be something
> he's put together himself purely for using with Final Scratch, some of his
> edits for that purpose are wonderfully confusing.
> 
> Regarding the 30 minutes of Surgeon @ ATP played on John Peel's show...it's
> available on soulseek. I have it and can share it, message user name urban
> myth and I'll add you to my list. I've not given it a listen yet...but I was
> at ATP and it was definitely one of the best sets I've ever experienced.
> 
> 



(313) Surgeon on John Peel

2003-04-17 Thread Sean Creen
Slightly off topic I suppose, but since his set was discussed a bit last week, 
just a quick reminder that Surgeon's ATP set is being broadcast on John Peel's 
show tonight.
Should be available on www.bbc.co.uk for those not in the UK.

Sean.



RE: (313) Help Finding Electro Mixes

2003-04-15 Thread Sean Creen

>There are two other electro comps that were recommended a while back,
'Mixed Up In The Hague' by I.F &


On a related note, the was talk quite a while back of a 2nd volume of Mixed
Up In The Hague; anyone know what happened to that?

Sean.



RE: (313) Shake in Holland

2003-04-14 Thread Sean Creen
In Dublin a few years back he played a set of pretty standard tchno/house in
the main room, then played a really eclectic set in the smaller room...

-Original Message-
From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 April 2003 17:03
To: 'Klaas Jan Jongsma'; ::)
Cc: Sean Creen; 313 mailing list
Subject: RE: (313) Shake in Holland



Ditto. I've heard john spin about 10x now and he's played
techno/house but that's the extent of it.

Maybe he only spins this way in Detroit? I've noticed many
of the detroit dj's play best in their hometown..

-Pete

-Original Message-
From: Klaas Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:59 AM
To: ::)
Cc: Sean Creen; 313 mailing list
Subject: Re: (313) Shake in Holland


I heard him a few times but apparently i just had bad nights because
what he bassicly did was playing boring tech-house and sometimes a
techno track and sometimes something more house. No way he was anything
close to what Shake did :)

kj

On maandag, apr 14, 2003, at 17:51 Europe/Amsterdam, ::) wrote:

> acquaviva is the man!  he spins a bit of everything, and it is
> definately
> all about being there... his online mixes dont hold me, but he is,
> without a
> doubt, my fav DJ to see live
>
> -Joe
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sean Creen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "313 mailing list" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:34 AM
> Subject: RE: (313) Shake in Holland
>
>
>> Off the top of my head, sometimes John Acquaviva and Claude, when the
>> mood
>> takes them...
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 14 April 2003 16:29
>> To: 'Matthew MacQueen'; Jongsma, K.J.; 313@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: RE: (313) Shake in Holland
>>
>>
>>
>> The only other DJ I've heard do this and pull it off is Mathew
>> Herbert. His dj set at APT in nyc was my favorite this year.
>>
>> Anyone else know of dj's that do this?
>>
>> -Pete
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:25 AM
>> To: Jongsma, K.J.; 313@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: RE: (313) Shake in Holland
>>
>>
>>> Just a few nice words about Shake, who played a brilliant
>>> set last Saturday here in Holland. His choice of records was
>>> amazing, he was going from one point of the musical spectrum.
>>
>> YEa!  He is amazing DJ indeed.  I love how everyone raves about his
>> broad
>> spectrum of selections.  It's a lifetime of loving and producing music
> that
>> sets this style apart... wish more DJs had the guts to spin out like
>> this,
>> it sure would make things more interesting!  :)
>>
>> peace,
>> Matt MacQueen
>>
>
>
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RE: (313) Shake in Holland

2003-04-14 Thread Sean Creen
Off the top of my head, sometimes John Acquaviva and Claude, when the mood
takes them...

-Original Message-
From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 April 2003 16:29
To: 'Matthew MacQueen'; Jongsma, K.J.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Shake in Holland



The only other DJ I've heard do this and pull it off is Mathew
Herbert. His dj set at APT in nyc was my favorite this year.

Anyone else know of dj's that do this?

-Pete

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From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:25 AM
To: Jongsma, K.J.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Shake in Holland


> Just a few nice words about Shake, who played a brilliant
> set last Saturday here in Holland. His choice of records was
> amazing, he was going from one point of the musical spectrum.

YEa!  He is amazing DJ indeed.  I love how everyone raves about his broad
spectrum of selections.  It's a lifetime of loving and producing music that
sets this style apart... wish more DJs had the guts to spin out like this,
it sure would make things more interesting!  :)

peace,
Matt MacQueen



RE: (313) Re: Shake this Friday was (313) Deadbeat?

2003-04-09 Thread Sean Creen
>I am looking forward to welcoming Shake this Friday now. Apparently he was
very good, dropping stuff from Soundhack to Radiohead.

Actually, I don't think he played any Soundhack, but he did play doubles of
a track with a break which Soundhack sampled. Anyone got any idea what this
was?

Cheers,
Sean.



RE: (313) ATP Play-by-Play: was Re: (313) Deadbeat?

2003-04-09 Thread Sean Creen
I'd agree with most of this...
Really enjoyed Shake's set, although the turntable problems interrupted the
flow at bit. He still managed to pull off a few sweet double copy tricks
though!
I found it hard to take Stingray seriously - some records just aren't made
to be played at 45rpm!
Public Enemy were great, although their set went on a bit too long and they
lost it a bit towards the end.
Missed most of LFO as I was watching Coil's stunning set (easily the
highlight of the weekend for me). I called down afterwards, but he was
playing the Bells, so I left. Apparently this wasn't representative of the
rest of the set. Oh well...
There were a few other surprising 313-related bits over the weekend. Aphex
played quite a bit of UR, and Russell Haswell ended his set with Amazon.
I was a little disappointed with the Fall. Definitely not the best I've
heard them play; greatest hits sets don't really suit them IMO.
DJ set of the weekend definitely goes to Surgeon. Apparently this is going
to be broadcast on John Peel some time next week, so listen out for it.
R&S were playing some nice stuff, but I couldn't help wishing they'd been
put on it the small downstairs room or the bar. The bass just got lost a bit
in the main room.
Other bits I particularly enjoyed were Thirstin Howl III, El-P, Disjecta,
Sunn O))), Jim O'Rourke and the Magic Band.
Nice to meet listmembers Anya, Tristan and Max.
Think I'll spend the next few days getting some blood back into my alcohol!

Sean.
-Original Message-
From: Anya Stang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 April 2003 16:56
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) ATP Play-by-Play: was Re: (313) Deadbeat?


On Monday, April 7, 2003, at 03:28 PM, Phonopsia wrote:

> Shake's set was not his finest - seemed to be having an off night,
> although
> he and the crowd both seemed to enjoy it quite a bit despite the mixing
> troubles. It got much better as it went on, but the first 1/2 of the
> set was
> pretty messy. We all have these nights though...

Plus there were problems with one of the decks I think, which
certainly didn't help. From what he said to me later, he wasn't
very satisfied himself with his set - but I still enjoyed it. : )

>>> b) 'Drexciyan DJ Stingray'?!
>
> Drexciyan DJ Stingray was tight, but hearing tracks like M4 and M5
> played at
> 45 ruins them for me.

 From what I heard, he always plays everything so fast. B

> Public Enemy was fantastic. Haven't lost a step, and *everyone* was
> getting
> down. You could tell they were having a great time, and it was really
> infectious.

Absolutely! Even for someone like me who's not really
into HipHop - I totally enjoyed their show.

> Bola (apparently didn't show) but the visuals while they played some
> of his
> music (I think) were mind-blowing. Someone else may be able to fill in
> gaps
> about this.

Yes, it was Bola's music they were showing those great visuals to.
He didn't come to ATP because he'd had a baby daughter 2 weeks
earlier - congratulations! : )
This was one of the highlights for me. Definitely have to pick up
some of his stuff!

> Checked Jim O'Rourke for about 15 minutes. Nice pure ambience (i.e. no
> discernable beat). Not suiting my mood. Head back for more
> Stasis/Kev/Whatever.

Jim O'Rourke was very very good. Just the thing for me on the
Sunday afternoon. A bit abrasive at times but always keeping
it interesting. I simply stood there with my eyes closed

> Coil (probably my most anticipated show) - really long set-up process
> (like
> 45 minutes). Really weird experimental vocally stuff with 3 Nords?!?
> Cool
> stuff. Not right for the moment.

And staying on for Coil after that was the right choice, too. : )

Mustn't forget to mention SND, who played before O'Rourke.
A very short 45-minute set of which I managed to miss the
first 25mins dammit. Great minimal clicky-cutty stuff yet very
cohesive and even melodic in places.
Dug out their album Tender Love (on Mille Plateaux) today,
totally forgotten that I have that *doh*, and I can really
recommend it.

> G-Man: played for about 20 minutes of his live set and some assbag
> pulled
> the fire alarm (or maybe it was a real fire???) - no one seemed to
> know for
> sure. Retreated to chalet.

I'm sure it was a false alarm. There's always one idiot who seems
to think this kinda thing is very funny. Real shame about G-Man's
live set, it had started off very promising.

> Returned just in time for the beginning of Mark Broom. I danced
> non-stop.
> Always an excellent DJ - throwing in just enough bangers and just
> enough
> depth to keep it constantly interesting. It is true that we are
> spoiled for
> choice in London.
>
> Surgeon: Holy crap! This was a proper Final Scratch workout. It wasn't
> the
> best DJ set I've ever seen, but I've never seen another set like it.
> He went
> everywhere seamlessly, and directed the pace with a mastery that's
> only been
> equalled, not surpassed.

Nothing more to add to this really. Mark Broom was a tad too
banging

(313) ATP

2003-03-21 Thread Sean Creen
OK, I asked on the UK-313 list and there was no response, so I'll try
here...
How many people are going to All Tomorrow's Parties? Is a 313 meet-up in
order?
Apologies to anyone who's not going, but it makes a change from having to
read about your DEMF arrangements ;-)

Sean.



RE: (313) ATP Festival Schedule Announced

2003-03-21 Thread Sean Creen
Yeh, shame - I would've liked to hear LFO, but that's no contest. Gonna have
to miss most of Parmegiani to hear Shake too, but at the end of the day its
nice to have tough decisions like this :-)

-Original Message-
From: Cobert, Gwendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 March 2003 12:37
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) ATP Festival Schedule Announced


Except that G-Man plays at the same time as Rhythm & Sound... and LFO same
time as Coil...
Gwendal

> -Original Message-
> From: The Deliverator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:53 PM
> To: Ryan Snowden
> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) ATP Festival Schedule Announced
>
>
> Daam.  G-Man and Coil too.  I would so love
> to be able to go
> to this thing!
>
> jim
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ryan Snowden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 5:26 AM
> Subject: RE: (313) ATP Festival Schedule Announced
>
>
> > Wow ! El-P, Carl Craig, Baby Ford, Kool Keith, aphex twin,
> LFO, venetian
> > snares (mad), and surgeon..
> >
> > I wonder if elp toures under Cannibal ox...
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Daryl Walsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 20 March 2003 21:18
> > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: (313) ATP Festival Schedule Announced
> >
> >
> > flying to the UK from Chicago for this...
> >
> > http://www.atpfestival.com/events/news.php?event=1&view=40
> >
> > SCHEDULE FOR THE AE EVENT
> >
> > ATP UK 2003 SCHEDULE
> >
> > FRIDAY 4TH APRIL STAGE 1
> > SUNN 0))) - 2.45pm - 3.30pm
> > ZOVIET FRANCE - 4.00pm - 4.45pm
> > SONIC SUM - 5.15pm - 6.00pm
> > SLUTA LETA -6.30pm - 7.15pm
> > THIRSTIN HOWL iii - 7.30pm - 8.30pm
> > THE FALL - 9.00pm - 10.00pm
> > PUBLIC ENEMY -10.30pm - 12.00am
> > A. GUY. C. GERALD - 12am -1.30am
> > CARL CRAIG - 1.30am - 3.30am
> > BABY FORD - 3.30am - 5.00am
> >
> > FRIDAY 4TH APRIL STAGE 2
> > SKAMS DJS - 4.00pm - 7.00pm
> > zK (LIVE) - 7.00pm - 8.00pm
> > MEAM (LIVE) - 8.30pm - 9.30pm
> > WEVIE STONDER (LIVE) - 10pm - 11pm
> > FREEFORM (LIVE) -11.30pm -12.30am
> > DJ WOODY - 12.30am - 2.00am
> > TEAM DOYOBI (LIVE) - 2am - 3am
> > GESCOM (LIVE) - 3am -END
> >
> > FRIDAY 4TH APRIL TV CHANNEL
> > THE HAFLER TRIO (live)- TIME TBC
> >
> > FRIDAY 4TH APRIL - THE QUEEN VICTORIA PUB
> > DJ LORD ASWOD ( PUBLIC ENEMY)
> > DJ NED BECKETT
> >
> > SATURDAY 5TH APRIL STAGE 1
> > PITA - 2.00pm -2.45pm
> > FARMERSMANUAL - 3.00pm - 3.45pm
> > DISJECTA - 4.00pm - 4.45pm
> > EL-P + MURS - 5.15pm - 6.15pm
> > KOOL KEITH - 6.45pm - 7.45pm
> > YASANAO TONE - 8.15pm - 9.00pm
> > HECKER - 9.30pm - 10.15pm
> > CURTIS ROADS - 10.45pm - 11.30pm
> > RUSSELL HASWELL - 12am - 1.15am
> > EARTH - 1.30am - 2.30am
> > APHEX TWIN - 2.30am - 4.30am
> >
> > SATURDAY 6TH APRIL STAGE 2
> > NMB ALL STARS (LIVE/DJ) -4pm - 7pm
> > MADE (LIVE) - 7pm - 8pm
> > BOLA (LIVE) - 9pm - 10pm
> > PUSH B. OBJECTS (LIVE)10pm -11.30pm
> > Mr 76ix (LIVE) - 11.30pm -12.30am
> > TATAMAX (LIVE) - 1am - 2.00am
> > ALDER & ELIUS (LIVE)- 2.30am - 3.30am
> > SKAM DJs - 3.30am - END
> >
> > SATURDAY 5TH APRIL QUEEN VICTORIA PUB
> > DJS TBC
> >
> > SUNDAY 6TH APRIL STAGE 1
> > O.S.T -2.00pm-2.45pm
> > REQ - 3.00pm -3.45pm
> > SND - 4.00pm -4.45pm
> > JIM O'ROURKE - 5.00pm -5.45pm
> > COIL - 6.15pm -7.15pm
> > BERNARD PARMEGIANI 7.45pm-8.45pm
> > THE MAGIC BAND - 9.15pm - 10.15pm
> > RHYTHM N SOUND -10.15pm-12.15am
> > MIRA CALIX AND ANDREA PARKER
> > -12.15am - 3.15am
> >
> > SUNDAY 6th APRIL STAGE 2
> > STASIS -2.00pm - 3.30pm
> > STRICTLY KEV - 3.30pm-5.00pm
> > MASSONIX -5.00pm -6.30pm
> > LFO DJ set -6.30pm - 8.00pm
> > ANTHONY SHAKE SHAKIR 8pm-9.30pm
> > G-MAN - 9.30pm -11.00pm
> > MARK BROOM - 11.00pm -12.30am
> > SURGEON - 12.30am - 2.00am
> > DREXCIYAN DJ STINGRAY 2am-3.30am
> > VENETIAN SNARES -3.30am-5.00am
> >
> > SUNDAY 6TH APRIL QUEEN VICTORIA PUB
> > DJS TBC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>



RE: (313) Carl Craig

2003-03-07 Thread Sean Creen
He's playing at All Tomorrow's Parites at the beginning of April, so I
expect he's around UK/Europe for the next few weeks...

Sean.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 March 2003 13:26
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Carl Craig


Soon/lately... I figured if he was on the radio he'd be doing a few gigs...
No doubt london only.. Peh! Ohwell..

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Sent: 07 March 2003 13:24
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig



>Is he playing manchester / played manchester ?

He has done, quite a few times.

Do you mean soon/lately?

Not heard anything - though that doesn't mean alot.
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RE: (313) suburban knight

2003-03-06 Thread Sean Creen
I heard the tracks about 18 months ago (probably the same versions as you
Fabrice) and was very impressed. They were a little rough around the edges
in places, but were definitely trademark Sub Knight quality...

-Original Message-
From: fabrice Lig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 March 2003 10:15
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) suburban knight



I've heard some track more than one year ago,not bad but not the best things
I've heard from Sub Night, but I Heard that they re-recorded some of these
with MMike in Detroit.sowe will see...


Fabrice
http://www.multimania.com/fabricelig/





>From: Tom Churchill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,313 <313@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: (313) suburban knight
>Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:07:54 +
>
> >> has anyone heard the suburban knight album on peacefrog? is good yes?
> >
> >
> > WHT ??! :))
> > is that true? someone confirm please :)
>
>This was posted on the list by Tom Magic Feet (and subsequently discussed
>by
>many listmembers) a few weeks ago...
>
>
>Artist: Suburban Knight
>Cat Number: PFG025 / PFG025CD
>Title: My Sol Dark Direction
>Barcode:  2LP - 505029413411-5
>CD - 505029413422-1
>Release date: 28th April 2003
>
>Track listing:
>Shape Shifter
>Collaboration Alfa
>Midnight Sunshine
>True To The Game
>Roundtable Chronicles
>Art Of Stalking
>Niagra Falls
>Nocturbulus Behaviour
>
>· The first ever full-length album from one of Detroit's most respected
>techno producers.
>· Suburban Knight has recorded for the worlds top two techno imprints -
>Derrick May's Transmat & Mike Banks' Underground Resistance.
>· Includes classic tracks never before released on CD.
>· Suburban Knight will be touring at a club near you soon.
>
>Peacefrog proudly present the first ever artist album from one of
>Underground Resistance's most consistent & sought after foot soldiers.
>James
>Pennington AKA the Suburban Knight has been heavily involved in the roots
>of
>Detroit's most influential export since it's conception in the eighties.
>
>Part of Kevin Saunderson's 'Inner City' when they had their two biggest
>hits
>'Big Fun' & 'Good Life' James went on to record two classics for Derrick
>May
>'s fledgling Transmat label - 'The Groove' & 'Art Of Stalking'.
>
>James' penchant for making dark & melodic techno soon lead him to the
>infamous doors of Mike Banks & Jeff Mills' UR collective, where he was to
>have arguably his biggest hit to date 'Nocturbulas Behaviour'. Since these
>early days his releases have been less frequent than many of his peers, but
>always timeless & crucial. 'My Sol Dark Direction' is an accumulation of 17
>years worth of contributions to the world of dance music. A masterpiece of
>house, techno & electronics, featuring time honoured classics  & new
>flawless productions. This is a must for anyone with the slightest interest
>in dance music, an "essential lesson" in the history of house.


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RE: (313) Amsterdam record shops/Theo event

2003-03-04 Thread Sean Creen
The problem with going to other record shops in Amsterdam, is that it leaves
you with less time and money for Rush Hour - its an incredible shop! Give
yourself plenty of time to poke around in there...

-Original Message-
From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 March 2003 09:33
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Amsterdam record shops/Theo event


I'm visiting Amsterdam at the end of this week. Can anyone suggest record
shops
other than Rush Hour that I should check out? Any good secondhand shops?

Also, am I right in thinking that the Theo Parrish event on Friday is in
Rotterdam, not Amsterdam?

Cheers.



RE: (313) dave clarke live

2003-03-03 Thread Sean Creen
Well, the mix into It Is What It Is is really pretty bad, but i thought the
rest of the mixing was fine for the type of material he played. Not super
tight, but I can forgive him for that - he got through a lot of
musically-interesting tracks in a pretty short time.
The idea that a third table covers bad mixes is a little bizarre...

Sean.

-Original Message-
From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 March 2003 13:23
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) dave clarke live


The Peel session had a nice live feal, there really isn't anything that
constitutes a major trainwreck in fact I found the track selection rather
enjoyable.

on 3/2/03 7:45 AM, ::) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> i felt the same about the mills peel session
>
> his mixing sucks, although most people don't notice since he covers it
with
> the 3rd turntable
>
> -Joe









RE: (313) Surgeon - How good is he?

2003-02-26 Thread Sean Creen
He's excellent - one of the very few consistently interesting harder techno
DJs (and producers) around these days.
He doesn't really do any tricks any more (he used to play a lot of doubles,
etc), but the mixing is always tight and the sets build nicely, always with
a few surprises for those who know ;-)

Sean.

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Sent: 26 February 2003 16:32
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Surgeon - How good is he?





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I'm thinking of going to hear Surgeon DJ this w/e & was wondering what
peoples general opinion of him is.

Has he got the skills? I'm seem to remember his style is what my mates call
'ARMS' (i.e quite hard!)

Cheers,

G.




(313) Mills release dates?

2003-02-19 Thread Sean Creen
Anyone know the release dates for the new Axis 9 and Every Dog... records?

Cheers,
Sean.


RE: Re[2]: (313) production and mastering

2003-02-06 Thread Sean Creen
He thought the Stooges sounded thin compared to Smashing Pumpkins!! :o
Its strange, I suppose someone who's only used to listening to music on a
digital format must be listening in a totally different way, but to me it
seems that he was mixing up precision with depth...

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Subject: Re: Re[2]: (313) production and mastering



This discussion came into my head this morning and I recalled a thing that
happened several years ago. A friend of mine and I (both of us about the
same age) were working at a job (must have been mid to late 1990s) with a
younger guy who was into stuff like Smashing Pumpkins, Radiohead, Nirvana,
etc. Decent music but he was curious about where the music had come from so
we started feeding him stuff like the Sex Pistols, the Stooges, Ramones,
etc. Except for the Ramones he didn't like the earlier music that much
because of the sound quality. He said something to the effect that it
sounded thin and low budget compared to the newer productions.

MEK





  "Brian 'balistic'
  Prince"  To:   313@hyperreal.org
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]cc:
  .com>Subject:  Re[2]: (313)
production and mastering

  02/05/03 10:56 PM
  Please respond to
  "Brian 'balistic'
  Prince"






The only production technique that consistently annoys me is the
over-use of compression.  Many producers will say they do it to get
their tracks noticed, or to give them "presence" . . . I would
suggest, if you find that people only notice your tracks when you
eliminate your dynamic range and make everything blaringly-loud,
you've probably got bigger worries than poor production.

An over-compressed track is like a black and white photograph that's
90% flat white and 10% flat black black, with no grey in between.

But then I prefer digital to vinyl . . .

*runs away*

--
Brian "balistic" Prince
http://www.bprince.com - art and techno










RE: (313) Fw: Jeff Mills Crate Diggin'

2003-02-06 Thread Sean Creen

>Man From Tomorrow, The Extremist, The Hacker, Manlike, DNA, Reverting, The
>Bells, At First Sight (on various Axis EPs mostly)

Actually, most of these are on Tresor or Purposemaker!

>Waveform Transmission vol 1. (Tresor) [esp. the mad piano track - can't
remember title]

Changes of Life

>X-102: Discovers The Rings Of Saturn (Axis? or Tresor?)

UR and Tresor





RE: (313) Over-production (WAS - Re: (313) Suburban Knight)

2003-02-04 Thread Sean Creen

> To annoy people? Or is this some kind of avant-garde
> dada experiment to challenge our expectations? ;-)


Entertainment Through Pain! :-))
Maybe this explains some of those terrible trance records Psychic TV ended
up releasing

Sean.



RE: (313) Suburban Knight

2003-01-31 Thread Sean Creen

> Why not produce a few tracks more and make an album that is entirely based
on new material?

Maybe he didn't feel like it. His rate and quality of output over the years
suggests that he makes tracks as he feels them, rather than just to fill
space on releases...

Sean.



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