(313) which good live acts are there?
Before ya'll start throwing names at me, let me first minimalize the possible answers. I'm not really asking for those strictly-techno-people-has-to-dance-to-this kinda live sets. I'm actually thinking about Kirk Degiorgio for example. Does he do live acts??? Or Carl Craig (besides Tres Demented), can you book him for a Carl Craig or Innerzone Orchestra live??? With these names in mind, maybe you can help me out. You know... people with a large and diverse catalogue... able to bring a good live act... not really for da clubs... more concert-like. THANX GREETS from Belgium.
(313) Track ID Terrence - Carl
I just listened to Play-ah Hate-ah by Terrence Parker (on Detroit After Dark) and I think the same sounds/samples are used by Carl Craig on the More Songs album. I don't have it near me (CC's album) so maybe someone could tell me which track I'm thinking about... Greetz from Brussels.
Re: (313) Simon Reynolds Rip It Up And Start Again
Excuse me, but I didn't understand what this book is about. I'm a bit slow, y'know. Is it a book about music? And is it the same Simon Reynolds who wrote Energy Flash in which he keeps going on and on and on and on and on about drugs and drugs and hardcore and other bad music and drugs and... :s Greets
(313) re:RE: (313) Simon Reynolds Rip It Up And Start Again
It's his take on post-punk - PIL, Gang Of Four, Devo, Talking Heads etc - much better than Energy Flash, less pretentious and much more thoughtful. Mind you, I thought Reynolds was spot on about drugs and hardcore I wouldn't say 'spot on'. He had a view and that view was open for discussion. In the beginning of the book his remarks on drugs made sense, but were more prominent then needed. But near the end it became too much. All that talk about hardcore and whatever came after... it became boring... and made me stop reading it. There are very good parts in the book and he made sense most of the time, but it's just too long and too much.
(313) re:I Love Techno lineup announced
Don't let this line-up fool you. I Love Techno is one of the biggest, but also the worst techno fetivals around. It's looks like there's much to hear but it all sounds the same once you're there. Too many people, bad sound, no creativity whatsoever,... It used to be good, but not any more... By the way, you can hear most of these jocks play in smaller venues and you'll get higher quality sets and more atmosphere. Cheers The (313) content (Derrick, Rich, Matt Dear, Rob Hood, Magda, Bone, Troy Pierce) is pretty good this year: UNDERWORLD (LIVE) DAVE CLARKE TIGA SUPER DISCOUNT 2 (LIVE) RICHIE HAWTIN SVEN VATH MISS KITTIN DERRICK MAY VITALIC (LIVE) COLLABS FEATURING CHRIS LIEBING SPEEDY J (LIVE) ADAM BEYER T. RAUMSCHMIERE (LIVE) MATTHEW DEAR (LIVE) MARCO BAILEY NATHAN FAKE (LIVE) ROBERT HOOD MAGDA THE GLIMMERS TOBI NEUMANN T-QUEST FIXMER/MCCARTHY (LIVE) ANDRÉ GALLUZZI DR. LEKTROLUV DJ BONE CHRISTIAN SMITH TROY PIERCE (LIVE) DEG TONY ROHR (LIVE) PIERRE DJ NAUGHTY TOM HADES (LIVE) JAN VAN BIESEN SPACID FRANCO CANGELLI - Greg
(313) re:(313) Compost Black Label
#1 is definitely worth checking out. Gilles Peterson opened one of his shows with this a couple months ago and it blew me away. It starts out slow and after a break there are these beats that are kinda leftfield. And near the end some nice D-strings. Here a short sample: http://www.nuloop.com/Details_e.php?arti=35749 (the first track) Cheers. This is the only one of these that I've heard...anyone have/familiar with the other releases? Worth hunting down? Adam
(313) discogs
Does everyone get the same page as me when they go to www.discogs.com??? GoDaddy.com??? Expired domain??? I'm scared.
(313) Re: radio slave re-edits carl craig
Carl released it... on Just Another Day - http://www.discogs.com/release/332450 ;-) On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 07:01:56PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: radio slave re-edit of 'darkness' available at piccadilly! so is this a bootleg? if so, the bootlegger is actually releasing his thing before the real artist did so! hahaha... This should go to the hall of fame. G
(313) RE: radio slave re-edits carl craig
Info doesn't look 100% correct, as from that scan of the label it doesn't look like it's a whitelabel ;) I checked out the clips of this yesterday but didn't go for it as it didn't grab me too much. How are you liking it? Well, I like it a lot. Great stuff for the dancefloor. You don't hear many remixes of a Carl Craig record now do you.
(313) re:radio slave re-edits carl craig
radio slave re-edit of 'darkness' available at piccadilly! oh, naughty naughty. I already have a copy. Sounds good to me. Nice one that will jumpstart any upper class dancefloor ;-) Already added it to discogs, but not sure if info is correct. Check it outtt - http://www.discogs.com/release/509722
(313) Carl Craig in Belgium (track ID)
Carl Craig played an absolute impressive set at the 'Pukkelpop' festival in Belgium a week ago. I haven't heard a set like that in years! (you really don't hear Detroit techno in Belgium - people are more into hard loops which is really sad). Anyway, he played Jaguar by Rolando like he did before. It's the beatless version and lasts maybe ten minutes (I presume). Which one is it? Is it out on vinyl or is it CC's private CDR? P.S.: Derrick May also played at the same festival, but he dissapointed me big time - too much loops, ordinary techno. I couldn't care less.
(313) ID in set DJ 3000 for Fuse-In please
I'm listening to The Breezeblock show on BBC Radio 1 and I was wondering if someone recognises this track around 02:16:30/03:00:01 played by DJ 3000. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/dance/breezeblock/index.shtml?dp_rhn_block_pic Greetz.
(313) UR live @ Fuse-In ID
Hello, I found this set of UR live at Fuse-In here - http://www.hypnotyza.com/files/fuse-in2005/ While they were playing Millenium 2 Millenium, they start to freestyle on the keyboard at about 30:45 and play a melody I recognize but don't know. Maybe you? P.S.: Between 30:45 and 31:15 Thanx
(313) Re: virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN BOOTLEGGED, BURN THE BOOTLEGGERS
Ok, I understand what y'all are saying. And I have to conclude that bootlegging is not ok. But still, I don't regret buying the Virtual Sex bootleg. Because, as I said: Carl Craig, Kenny Larkin, Stacey Pullen, Kirk Degiorgio and Derrick May received money from me in the past and will receive money from me in the future. I spend A LOT OF MONEY on these guys. So I don't have to feel sorry for buying a bootleg now and then. Because there are 3 options: 1) Buying a legit copy of Virtual Sex on eBay - the artists don't get paid 2) Downloading it or putting in on tape - the artists don't get paid 3) Leave it - the artists... well... they don't get paid Bootlegging is a reality and downloading is a reality... I did bought a bootleg and yes I DO download. But every freakin' cent that enters my pocket will sure go to their new and legal records... I'm not making up an excuse.
(313) virtual sex lp repressed!
After Relics, The Beginning / Nite Da, Panic In Detroit and a few others, 'they' repressed the absolute classic Virtual Sex feat. Carl Craig, Kenny Larkin, Stacey Pullen and Kirk Degriorgio among others. A good thing? For me it is.
Re: (313) virtual sex lp repressed!
The Virtual Sex lp sounds good to me. But I didn't complain about the Relics repress either, so maybe I'm just an easy going kinda fella. It isn't the best quality around, but hey, most of us youngsters don't have the original and are never gonna be able to afford it. And even if we do have it, it's on cassette or mp3 so... like I said, I'm not gonna complain about the sound quality. That's something for the old folks here ;-)
Re: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN BOOTLEGGED, BURN THE BOOTLEGGERS
Alex Bond: you're taking the beans off carl craigs kids toast innit. Ok, now I'm offended! I buy almost every bloody record that Carl Craig produces so my money is definitely going into his pockets!!! But if someone bootlegs the Virtual Sex lp it's because no one else thought of it before. Come on people!!! These guys from Detroit and everyone who's connected have so many good records that are sold for loads of cash on eBay. Why don't they repress it themselfs? Why wait 'till someone else does it and be angry about it. You know people want these records!!! Make sure people can buy them! It's simple economy! It's the same discussion as with downloading music. People have a need, act upon it. And make sure someone else doesn't outsmart you.
(313) Re: virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN BOOTLEGGED, BURN THE BOOTLEGGERS
Simon Vrebos: now I'm offended! Alex Bond: no offence meant Simon, sorry! twas just a lil joke. in a way. or was it serious? who knows? however, I certainly didn't mean to offend you. Ok, I'm sorry too. I just got a bit carried away when you mentioned beans and kids and Carl Craig :-) Dan: This is consumerism gone mad! Just because someone has an item you want doesn't mean that you have the automatic right to buy it. They might not want to sell it, and since it's their property it's entirely up to them. That doesn't justify a bootlegger stealing it from them. I'm going to sound like a proper old git now, but people these days seem to forget that you can't have everything. Some things in life just aren't available, and that's simply too bad, get over it! Ok, you have a point there. And yes, it's definitely consumerism gone mad. That's what these records can do to you! But I don't think it's their (the artists) property. The rights to the material are probably owned by the Buzz boss, whoever that may be. It could be an old fart who doesn't give a damn anymore and is sure as hell not gonna bother sueing the bootleggers. Jodie Svagr: Kinda pissed me off... it may seem to an outsider that the peeps from Detroit are rolling in Dough, but in reality they don't have cash flowing out of their pockets... Detroit's the slowest economy in the US... very poor actually... it's unfair to those in the Detroit techno industry for outsiders to get all pissy because their records aren't being repressed... the money might not be there... Hey, I didn't say they are loaded. I meant that if they have the rights to their own music, they could be making more money then they do now.
(313) track id's please (juan atkins set)
http://www.deejaymixes.com/MP3/juanatkins/juan_atkins-12yearstresor-march2003.mp3 As you can see, this is a very very nice set by mister Atkins. Can y'all help me out with some ID's, please? 1) the first track 2) the second track 3) track on 23 minutes 4) track on 52 minutes (what a banger!) Thanx for the help. Peace!
(313) 69 - puntang (carl craig)
Saw this release on the Clone pages (www.clone.nl - shop) and also found it on Discogs (http://www.discogs.com/release/414898) Where does this one come from??? I can't find it in any other shop! Does anybody know where I can listen to a sample?
FW: (313) new records - hot stuff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This track is hot. We did an online investigation of the likeliness of it coming on a 12 on Saturday and the conclusion was not likely. There only seems to be 1 sampler coming and that's got Adam Freeland, RSL and two other equally less-exiting-than-the-c2 remixes. I have consequently gone and bought a generally unappealing triple album for just one track : ( Also HOT: Juan Atkins Berlin Sessions on Tresor - really liking this! The other tracks on the Verve Remixed 3 album aren't bad either. I don't think Carl Craig's remix is the best one on it. Reminds me of the Congo Man thing he did before. But I'm sure he can do much much better with the Verve catalogue! Think what Madlib did with Blue Note... Come on, Carl! You can do that too!!! P.S.: Those Berlin Sessions are not that great. Just plain ol' dancefloor tracks. Nothing special... His recent stuff on Regal and Subject Detroit are something else! Cheers.
Re: (313) Mr May hates Nude Photo?
It isn't the first time Derrick states he doesn't like his tracks. I think he has a special personality and you can see that in most of the interviews he does. Maybe he's just joking, or maybe he really means it. But I don't care what he thinks about the past. 'I' know the past is great and most of us do, so...
(313) re:Re: (313) re:Re: (313) Galaxy 2 Galaxy Los Hermanos live (report)
Hasn't Rolando lived in Glasgow for a while tho? I also thought Mike made his position clear in the radio interview, don't see what the fuss is about myself. Martin No fuss at all. And I must say I didn't understand everything he said. But you know, it was in Belgium, so maybe Mike felt he had to say a few words because he maybe thinks there aren't that many people who know the history, the Detroit spirit and the deal with Rolando... I don't know. It doesn't really matter, because the music counts and it was GREAT!!!
(313) Galaxy 2 Galaxy Los Hermanos live (report)
Thursday 24/02: Sea Waves @ Café d'Anvers (Belgium) I don't know what to say... it was amazing. One of the best shows I've witnessed in my life. I heard the following great tracks: Millennium 2 Millennium, Jupiter Jazz, Hi Tech Jazz, Jaguar, Soulsaver (The Deacon), Numbers (originally by Kraftwerk), Inspiration, Transition, The Final Frontier and many others. Thanx to all of G2G Los Hermanos. You not only made my night, you made my year!!!
(313) re:Re: (313) Galaxy 2 Galaxy Los Hermanos live (report)
Although I didn't quite understand everything what Mad Mike was saying when he took the mic at the end. About people who couldn't stay in Detroit any longer or something?? And a lot of things were hard right now? I believe he was talking about the situation with Rolando and that some people are leaving Detroit while they're staying. And who the [EMAIL PROTECTED] was that DJ before and after the performance? What were they thinking booking this guy? It couldn't have been further from the vibe that UR were spreading. A dreadful example of anti-funk as I've ever heard. He totally ruined the evening for me. It was Marco Passarani and yeah, he wasn't that good. Also, wasn't there supposed to be another room, where Fabrice Lig would be playing? I was desperately looking for it when this crap DJ was torturing me, but in vain. He didn't play because there weren't enough people, I guess. A shame really. Maybe that shows how 'underground' Underground Resistance still is. Greetz, Simon. Joost
(313) Re: duplex album on clone
Duplex gave Laurent Garnier a demo, but they don't know how and when they are going to release the album. We'll have to wait for that one.
(313) Re: Tsunami benefit Sea Waves feat. UR update
I'm definitely there! When is the release date set for the Galaxy 2 Galaxy album btw?
(313) Energy Flash by Simon Reynolds
I'm reading 'Energy Flash' by Simon Reynolds published by Picador (1998). In this book and more specific in chapter eight entitled 'The Future Sound Of Detroit' I read some 'interesting' viewpoints for discussion. Here's the entire last part of the chapter: KEEPING THE FAITH Jeff Mills belongs to a tradition of black scholar-musicians and autodidacts: Sun Ra, Anthony Braxton, Derrick May, DJ Spooky. Instead of inspiring thoughtless, sweaty fun, Mills believes dance music should be the vehicle for lofty intellectualism and weighty-verging-on-ponderous concepts. Let me be very very clear, he says, with the barest hint of annoyance. Underground Resistance wasnt militant, nor was it angry... Im not angry now... The music that I make now has absolutely nothing to do with colour. It has nothing to do with man/woman, East/West, up/down, but more [to do with] the mind. The mind has no colour... Theres this perception that if youre black and you make music, then you must be angry. Or you must be deep. Or you must be out to get money and women. Or you must be high when you made that record. Its one of the four. And the media does a really good job of staying within those four categories. But in these cases, its neither of those. To which you might respond, whats left? If you remove race, class, gender, sexuality, the body and the craving for intoxication from the picture, what exactly remains to fuel the music? Just the pure play of ideation. The result is music that appeals to a disinterested and disembodied consciousness. The formalism of minimal techno has some parallels with minimalism in the pictorial arts and in avant-classical composition; both have been critiqued as spiritualized evasions of political reality, as attempts to transcend the messy and profane realm of History and Materiality in the quest for the timeless and territorially unbounded. If the musical legacy of Derrick May and Jeff Mills is largely unimpeachable, the mentality they have fathered throughout the world of 'serious' techno is, I Believe, a largely pernicious influence. This anti-Dionysian mindset favours elegance over energy, serenity over passion, restraint over abandon. It's a value system shared by Detroit purists both within the Motor City and across the globe. In Detroit itself, artists like Alan Oldham, Stacey Pullen/Silent Phase, Kenny Larkin, Dan Curtin, Claude Young, Jay Denham, Marc Kinchen, Terence Dixon and John Beltran, uphold the tradition. Many of these producers were corralled on to a 1996 double CD compiled by Edie 'Flashin Fowlkes, which he titled True People as a stinging rebuke to the rest of the world for daring to tamper with the Detroit blueprint. Detroit is living in denial. Techno has long since slipped out of its custodianship, the evolution-through-mutation of music has thrown up such mongrels as bleep-and-bass, Belgian hardcore, jungle, trance and gabba, all of which owe as much to other cities (the Bronx; Kingston, Jamaica; Dusseldorf; Sheffield; London; Chicago) as they do to Detroit. The ancestral lineage of Detroit has been contaminated by 'alien' genes; the music's been 'bastardized'. But lest we forget, illegitimate heirs tend to lead more interesting lives. If anything, the idea and ideal of Detroit is even stronger outside the city, thanks to British Detroit-purists. Leading lights in the realm of neo-Detroit abstract dance include the British labels Soma, Ferox, Ifach and Peacefrog, and producers like Peter Ford, Dave angel, Neil Landstrum, Funk DVoid, Ian OBrien (who titled a track Mad Mike Disease as a nod to the endemic influence of the UR/Red Planet maestro), The Surgeon, Russ Gabriel, Luke Slater, Adam Beyer and Mark Broom (whose alter ego Midnight Funk Association is named after the Electrifyin Mojos legendary Detroit radio show). It is a world where people talk not of labels but imprints, and funk is spelt phunk to give it an air of, er, phuturism. One of the most vocal of the Detroit-acolytes is tech-jazz artist Kirk deGiorgio. From early efforts like Dance Intellect to his late nineties As One output, deGiorgio has dedicated himself to the notion that Detroit techno is the successor to the synth-oriented jazz-funk of fusioneers like Herbie Hancock and George Duke. I never saw techno as anything else but a continuation of black music, he told Muzik magazine in 1997. I didnt think of it as any new kind of music. It was just that the technology and the sounds were different. This neo-conservative attitude the self-effacing notion that white musicians like deGiorgio himself have nothing to add to black music; the idea that music never really undergoes revolutions reminds me of nothing so much as the British blues-bore purists of the late sixties and early seventies. Actually, given that Detroit techno was a response to European electro-pop, we should really reverse the analogy: Atkins,
(313) kenny larkin as a comedian
Does somebody know a link to soundfiles or videos of Kenny Larkin as a comedian? Thanx!
(313) Re: ugly edits (full detail)
By posting the list of Ugly Edits I was hoping to discover the original artists that were sampled by Theo. I didn't expect to start a discussion about the sound quality of those releases. All I can say about that is that Theo called them UGLY edits. Maybe that explains everything. Anyway... does anyone know some of the original tracks that were used by Theo for the Edits? Please share! These are the ones I already know: ugly edits 1 made in usa - never gonna let u Ggo jill scott - slowly surely ugly edits 2 harold melvin the blue notes - the love i lost ugly edits 4 the dells - get on down ugly edits 6 outside - the plan anthony hamilton - lucille ugly edits 8 willy hutch - brothers are gonna work it out kool the gang - this is you this is me Thanx!
(313) ugly edits (full detail)
I want to complete/correct this list I put together. Can you help me? Thank you very very much! (Source: Discogs, Rush Hour, Nuloop, Beyond Jazz forum) Theo Parrish - Ugly Edits (Vol. 1) (Not On Label) Format: 12 Country: US Year: 2002 Catalog #: UGE 001 Tracklisting: A Never Gonna Let U Go (Theo Parrish Re-Edit) - Made In USA Never Gonna Let U Go B Slowly Surely (Theo Parrish Remix) - Jill Scott Slowly Surely Theo Parrish - Ugly Edits (Vol. 2) (Not On Label) Format: 12 Country: US Year: 2002 Catalog #: UGE 002 Tracklisting: A The Love I Lost - Harold Melvin The Blue Notes The Love I Lost B Switch Track Theo Parrish - Ugly Edits (Vol. 2) (Not On Label) Format: 12 Country: US? Year: 2002 Catalog #: UGEDT002 Tracklisting: A Untitled B1 Untitled B2 Untitled Note: Original white label with 3 disco edits. Tracks A B1 got bootlegged on UGE 002? Theo Parrish - Ugly Edits (Vol. 3) (Not On Label) Format: 12 Country: US Year: 2003 Catalog #: UGE 003 Tracklisting: A Got A Match B The Motor City Theo Parrish - Ugly Edits (Vol. 3) (Not On Label) Format: 12 Country: US? Catalog #: UGEDT003 Tracklisting: A Got A Match B The Motor City Theo Parrish - Ugly Edits (Vol. 4) (Not On Label) Format: 12 Counrty: US Year: 2003 Catalog #: UGET04 Tracklisting: A Untitled - The Dells Get On Down B Untitled Theo Parrish - Ugly Edits (Vol. 5) (Not On Label) Format: 12 Country: US Year: 2003 Catalog #: UGET05 Tracklisting: A Untitled B1 Untitled B2 Untitled Theo Parrish - Ugly Edits (Vol. 6) (Not On Label) Format: 12 Country: US Year: 2004 Catalog #: UGET06 Tracklisting: A Untitled - Outside The Plan B Untitled - Anthony Hamilton - Lucille Theo Parrish - Ugly Edits (Vol. 6) (Not On Label) Format: 12 Country: UK Year: 2004 Catalog #: UGEDT006 Tracklisting: A Untitled B1 Untitled B2 Untitled Theo Parrish - Ugly Edits (Vol. 7) (Not On Label) Format: 12 Country: US Year: 2004 Catalog #: UGET07 Tracklisting: A Untitled - a Parliament/Funkadelic jam from the P-funk earth tour LP B Untitled Theo Parrish - Ugly Edits (Vol. 8) (Not On Label) Format: 12 Country: US Year: 2004 Catalog #: UGET08 Tracklisting: A Untitled - Willie Hutch Brothers are gonna work it out B Untitled - Kool the Gang This is you this is me (Wild and Peaceful LP) Theo Parrish Ugly Edits (Vol. 9) (Not On Label) Format: 12 Country: ? Year: 2004 Catalog #: ? Tracklisting: A Untitled B Untitled Note: This is not a Theo Parrish production, its a fake. The sticker on it says made in England. Theo has assured us there is no Ugly Edit 9 (by him anyway).
(313) ugly edits
I have a copy of Ugly Edits vol. 6 with 3 tracks on it and now I discovered there is another Ugly Edits vol. 6 with only 2 tracks on it. One of those tracks is Theo's version of Lucille by Anthony Hamilton. Why are there 2 versions of Ugly Edits vol. 6 and are there others cases like this one? Ow yeah, anyone who would like to share some details about the Ugly Edits... please share! :-) Thanx!
(313) new CC on Planet E
I heard Carl Craig is going to release a new record on Planet E. Someone I know received a white label, but I didn't had the change to listen to it yet. Maybe you?
(313) new Buzz repress
I just found out the next one is Yennek - Serena X (BZZXL 106077) According to www.rushhour.nl: Collector's alert!! Next up in the series of Buzz 'represses' comes this promo-version of Yennek (aka Kenny Larkin), with the Innerzone Orchestra (aka Carl Craig) remix of Serena X. Already a floorfiller at time, growing to a real classic jam afterwards. Other two tracks come by Biotic, represting two of some very first tracks by Dan Curtin. Classic Detroit techno material!! Tip! I haven't heard this one and I can't find any samples, is it good? And does somebody know if their are other Buzz-releases ready to be repressed?
(313) Underground Resistance - World 2 World
I've been buying records for a few years now (since 1997), but I still don't have the World 2 World ep. Is it the only record on Underground Resistance that hasn't been repressed? And does anyone know why? 'Cause it's a shame I can't get a hold on this one. Thanx in advance.
(313) thanx
Hello everybody, This is the first message I sent to the 313-list and I just want to say 'thank you' for providing all this information. I really enjoy it! I also want to thank John Osselaer from technotourist.org for telling me about the 313 list. In other words: RESPECT!
