(313) [313] mixtape of a different media.
hi folks. i'm just curious to know if other members have made the move from mixing down live 2 a tape deck to mixing down live 2 a hard drive... then to a CD. i know it's helped my creativity a great deal... as long as i have disk space i can screw around with whichever tracks i care to. later i can save or delete the end results. in additon, it's nice to create a 79 minute cavalcade of electronic soul as opposed to only 45 minutes for one tape-side. just looking for any thoughts or opinions. to those of you who actually play out to a crowd on a regular basis, do you make mixes solely for your own listening enjoyment? what are they like... freer? less restricted? peace, lrh
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I record directly to my hard drive these days, and it's definitely made me a lot more productive. You don't end up having to reuse media if you get the levels wrong or cock up the first mix, you don't have to scrabble around to find a blank tape if you've suddenly got the urge to do a mix at 2am and the shops are shut, and having 79 minutes is a bit of a benefit too. I've definitely found that I do a lot of mixes these days which I never bother releasing to the world at large, but instead just use for my own listening enjoyment. These will often be slightly more experimental, or just funny juxtapositions of different styles that I like... Brendan | -Original Message- | From: Lee Herrington IV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 12 December 2002 03:09 | To: 313 | Subject: (313) [313] mixtape of a different media. | | | | hi folks. i'm just curious to know if other members have | made the move | from mixing down live 2 a tape deck to mixing down live 2 a | hard drive... | then to a CD. i know it's helped my creativity a great | deal... as long as i | have disk space i can screw around with whichever tracks i | care to. later i | can save or delete the end results. in additon, it's nice to | create a 79 | minute cavalcade of electronic soul as opposed to only 45 | minutes for one | tape-side. just looking for any thoughts or opinions. | to those of you who actually play out to a crowd on a | regular basis, do | you make mixes solely for your own listening enjoyment? what are they | like... freer? less restricted? | | peace, | lrh | |
RE: (313) [313] mixtape of a different media.
I was experimenting last night with two tunes which I recorded into Cubase on seperate tracks, one being an Acapella vocal which I chopped up and was laying over the other. The only problem with working in that way and within the Cubase protocol is keeping both audio tracks in Sync. I matched the Cubase click as closely as I could so I was still working in 'sequencer mode' but found things still started to drift occasional. Has anyone else worked in this way and found ways of syncing an audio track so it can be quantised etc? I shoved the vocals into Halion sampler so had pitch control but it's obviously still not an ideal way of working. Also I have found a great piece of software called 'Restorer' made by Waves that removes vinyl hum, pops and clicks if anyone's interested in cleaning up their mixes once on the hard drive. Sorry if this is a little off topic, I heard there's a more technical 313 out there if someone could let me know. Thanks, Bergz.
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I just put my mixes direct to MD. (And there they stay - thankfully.) k -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 10:37 AM To: Lee Herrington IV; 313 Subject: RE: (313) [313] mixtape of a different media. I record directly to my hard drive these days, and it's definitely made me a lot more productive. You don't end up having to reuse media if you get the levels wrong or cock up the first mix, you don't have to scrabble around to find a blank tape if you've suddenly got the urge to do a mix at 2am and the shops are shut, and having 79 minutes is a bit of a benefit too. I've definitely found that I do a lot of mixes these days which I never bother releasing to the world at large, but instead just use for my own listening enjoyment. These will often be slightly more experimental, or just funny juxtapositions of different styles that I like... Brendan | -Original Message- | From: Lee Herrington IV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 12 December 2002 03:09 | To: 313 | Subject: (313) [313] mixtape of a different media. | | | | hi folks. i'm just curious to know if other members have | made the move | from mixing down live 2 a tape deck to mixing down live 2 a | hard drive... | then to a CD. i know it's helped my creativity a great | deal... as long as i | have disk space i can screw around with whichever tracks i | care to. later i | can save or delete the end results. in additon, it's nice to | create a 79 | minute cavalcade of electronic soul as opposed to only 45 | minutes for one | tape-side. just looking for any thoughts or opinions. | to those of you who actually play out to a crowd on a | regular basis, do | you make mixes solely for your own listening enjoyment? what are they | like... freer? less restricted? | | peace, | lrh | |
RE: (313) [313] mixtape of a different media.
I used to, but I'd always end up recording them from MD to the computer anyway (so I could burn CDs etc). Then one day me and my minidisc player got caught in a rainstorm, and my days of portable digital music came to a moist and soggy end! The minidisc player is now completely senile - it is still alive, but can't do anything and the things it says make no sense. Anyway, it was then that I rewired everything to my decks go through the PC, and now I can cut out the middle-man by recording straight onto hard drive. Brendan | -Original Message- | From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 12 December 2002 11:55 | To: Brendan Nelson; Lee Herrington IV; 313 | Subject: RE: (313) [313] mixtape of a different media. | | | I just put my mixes direct to MD. (And there they stay - thankfully.) | k | | -Original Message- | From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 10:37 AM | To: Lee Herrington IV; 313 | Subject: RE: (313) [313] mixtape of a different media. | | | I record directly to my hard drive these days, and it's | definitely made | me a lot more productive. You don't end up having to reuse | media if you | get the levels wrong or cock up the first mix, you don't have to | scrabble around to find a blank tape if you've suddenly got | the urge | to do a mix at 2am and the shops are shut, and having 79 minutes is a | bit of a benefit too. | | I've definitely found that I do a lot of mixes these days | which I never | bother releasing to the world at large, but instead just use | for my own | listening enjoyment. These will often be slightly more | experimental, or | just funny juxtapositions of different styles that I like... | | Brendan | | | -Original Message- | | From: Lee Herrington IV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Sent: 12 December 2002 03:09 | | To: 313 | | Subject: (313) [313] mixtape of a different media. | | | | | | | | hi folks. i'm just curious to know if other members have | | made the move | | from mixing down live 2 a tape deck to mixing down live 2 a | | hard drive... | | then to a CD. i know it's helped my creativity a great | | deal... as long as i | | have disk space i can screw around with whichever tracks i | | care to. later i | | can save or delete the end results. in additon, it's nice to | | create a 79 | | minute cavalcade of electronic soul as opposed to only 45 | | minutes for one | | tape-side. just looking for any thoughts or opinions. | | to those of you who actually play out to a crowd on a | | regular basis, do | | you make mixes solely for your own listening enjoyment? | what are they | | like... freer? less restricted? | | | | peace, | | lrh | | | | | |
RE: (313) [313] mixtape of a different media.
Anyway, it was then that I rewired everything to my decks go through the PC, and now I can cut out the middle-man by recording straight onto hard drive. ok the one question i'll ask in this thread: what PC software do you use for this? (wavelab, soundforge, cool edit?) cheers robin...
RE: (313) [313] mixtape of a different media.
On the PC there seems to be nothing more reliable than Total Recorder. It's the only one that I've used that doesn't cause jumps on long recordings. -Original Message- From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 December 2002 12:11 To: 313 Subject: RE: (313) [313] mixtape of a different media. Anyway, it was then that I rewired everything to my decks go through the PC, and now I can cut out the middle-man by recording straight onto hard drive. ok the one question i'll ask in this thread: what PC software do you use for this? (wavelab, soundforge, cool edit?) cheers robin...
Re: (313) [313] mixtape of a different media.
- Original Message - From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee Herrington IV [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 12:00 PM Subject: RE: (313) [313] mixtape of a different media. Anyway, it was then that I rewired everything to my decks go through the PC, and now I can cut out the middle-man by recording straight onto hard drive. I record to MD as a backup while recording direct to HD in case anything goes wrong with the HD recording. This has saved a good mix more than once! Sorry to hear about your injured MD. :( They make a new one that is waterproof (and beerproof, hopefully)! I am trying not to put that to the test. No, I don't work for Sony. :) Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com
RE: (313) [313] mixtape of a different media.
Robertson, Steven wrote on Thu, 12 Dec 2002 about following: On the PC there seems to be nothing more reliable than Total Recorder. It's the only one that I've used that doesn't cause jumps on long recordings. this is more technical stuff so i dunno if it should be discussed on 313; but FYI: windows9x series of windows have 2gig filesize limit. i have never had any problems with sound forge with even bigger files on ntfs (with win2k).. no drops, no jumps. sakke -- new music available for download at http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html
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what PC software do you use for this? (wavelab, soundforge, cool edit?) Personally I like cooledit pro2 as I like the keyboard shortcuts and 'save selection as...' feature. I record a lot of mixes direct to HD and I've found that setting the temp folder of the recording software to a mapped network drive on a different machine dramatically increases speed and responsiveness for recording, saving and any post production. This can be especially beneficial with the large files produced by recording mixes at a high quality. If you don't have a home network then having the OS swap file on a different drive to the one you are recording to can also help. Cheers matt - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I use Wavelab Lite - not so many features that it loads slowly or is difficult to use, not so crap that you can't do things like save selection as. I have other wav editors but the simplicity of Wavelab Lite means that it suits me down to the ground for recording mixes. If I want to go and do anything fancy like compression later on I'd use Soundforge, but for staight recording it's always Wavelab Lite! Brendan | -Original Message- | From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 12 December 2002 12:11 | To: 313 | Subject: RE: (313) [313] mixtape of a different media. | | | | Anyway, it was then that I rewired everything to my decks | go through the | PC, and now I can cut out the middle-man by recording | straight onto hard | drive. | | ok the one question i'll ask in this thread: | | what PC software do you use for this? (wavelab, soundforge, | cool edit?) | | cheers | | robin... | | |
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I've been recording mixes to hard drive for a few years now, almost always with a version of SoundForge (Wavelab on occasion). I have, on 2 occasions, brought a laptop to record sets so that I can listen to how I did and note any mistakes I've made, what tracks worked well with each other, etc. -Original Message- From: Lee Herrington IV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:09 PM To: 313 Subject: (313) [313] mixtape of a different media. hi folks. i'm just curious to know if other members have made the move from mixing down live 2 a tape deck to mixing down live 2 a hard drive... then to a CD. i know it's helped my creativity a great deal... as long as i have disk space i can screw around with whichever tracks i care to. later i can save or delete the end results. in additon, it's nice to create a 79 minute cavalcade of electronic soul as opposed to only 45 minutes for one tape-side. just looking for any thoughts or opinions. to those of you who actually play out to a crowd on a regular basis, do you make mixes solely for your own listening enjoyment? what are they like... freer? less restricted? peace, lrh
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I have been doing that for about two years now. I have a Mac G4 with a Midiman Delta 44 sound card and I plug the record outputs of my mixer directly into the machine and record to hard drive. My only frustration has been that a CD is limited to 79 minutes whereas with tapes I used to be able to get close to 2 hours by recording straight through both sides. However some advantages of doing stuff on the computer that I see are that I can do mastering directly on the computer. If there are any big mistakes I can smooth them out, I can do editing, put on effects, etc on the computer (though I don't do that very often). Some of the disadvantages are that I used to record to tape and then listen to the tapes in the car. My car doesn't have a CD player so I can't listen to my mixes there anymore. And the biggest disadvantage for me is that if I am spinning and like what I am playing I can't just hit record on the tape deck - I need to go into the computer room, turn on the computer, load up Peak and hit record. Kind of ruins the moment for me. Unfortunately my computer room is now located two floors up from my tables so I can't record to hard disk anymore so am looking into getting a Minidisc or stereo CD-Burner so I can still do my mastering on the computer. Most of my mixes are for my ears only and I record them and listen to them at work. Occassionally if I like a mix I will post it as an MP3 to my web site (www.skooch.com) and if I really like it I will officially release it and send copies out as demos. Most of my personal mixes are just me grabbing random records and playing them or just playing whatever I feel like playing as opposed to a planned out set. Eric At 10:08 PM 12/11/2002 -0500, Lee Herrington IV wrote: hi folks. i'm just curious to know if other members have made the move from mixing down live 2 a tape deck to mixing down live 2 a hard drive... then to a CD. i know it's helped my creativity a great deal... as long as i have disk space i can screw around with whichever tracks i care to. later i can save or delete the end results. in additon, it's nice to create a 79 minute cavalcade of electronic soul as opposed to only 45 minutes for one tape-side. just looking for any thoughts or opinions. to those of you who actually play out to a crowd on a regular basis, do you make mixes solely for your own listening enjoyment? what are they like... freer? less restricted? peace, lrh
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i used cool edit pro 2. I run my studio mixer main outs to my PC, PC into the mixer, and then of course my laptop and other gear into the mixer. control outs go to the monitors. this allows me to record any part of the mix or a composite including the PC on which the audio is being recorded. thanks - Original Message - From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 7:10 AM Subject: RE: (313) [313] mixtape of a different media. Anyway, it was then that I rewired everything to my decks go through the PC, and now I can cut out the middle-man by recording straight onto hard drive. ok the one question i'll ask in this thread: what PC software do you use for this? (wavelab, soundforge, cool edit?) cheers robin...
(313) [313] mixtape of a different media
i liked the MD route for a couple years, but was always frustrated by the optical IN/analogue OUT. so i opted for a 'stand-alone' CD burner (pioneer) - now i record directly to CDRW, then if i like the mix, burn the RW to a CDR using another CD player. the CDR copy is now a perfect recording (using an optical cable) from the original RW. the downside is that copy cannot be copied due to factory encoding (i believe this is the result of a deal w/major label record companies) - however, you can always use the original RW to make repeat digital copies (without the track marks that were so thoughtfully put onto the CDR copy!)...another minor problem is the CD burners are very sensitive to record volumes (not like tapes that can be pushed)...if you go over too much, the result is an unpleasant distortion. ...not perfect, but not bad.
