RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-14 Thread marsel


beside orbital, 808state, and lfo
at that time i used to be really into the shamen (their en-tact album) as well!
am i the only one??
:)

that green orbital album, the first lfo album, and ninety and ex:el
they all took me into more 'serious'/listening techno ..

i'm feeling really old, as i realize it's already over ten years ago


At 13-12-2002 + 14:56, you wrote:

Just some additional info on the posts made.

FSOL's took the Stakker theme from one of their previous projects, AST (see
Asus Flow). There's an old compilation out there of all their various
guises, such as Yage, Mental Cube, Stakker... basically everything key that
they did on Earthbeat.

As for A Guy Called Gerald, he did a response to what happened to him when
he left/was pushed from 808 State, called Specific Hate, in which he uses
samples of the phone message (apparently, he was kicked from 808 State over
the phone), and he whistles the tune from Pacific State all the way through.
Not sure of the label, but I remember it had a Club as the label logo (as in
Hearts, Spades, Diamonds). Voodoo Ray got hammered, but the promo of it had
a great track Blow Your House Down on the flip-side, which was later
hashed into a more thumping version on the Chicago Symphony EP (red vinyl
bootleg-type affair).

As for LFO? Frequencies is probably one of the finest albums of the 90's.
LFO's LFO had a bit of a rough ride though, as Steve Wright ((ex-)BBC
Radio One deejay) claimed at the time that it was the worst record he
had ever heard, but was under strict instructions to play the track, as it
had been placed on the B-list for airing. John Peel still gave them alot
of praise tho at the time, and rightly so. Mark Bell's gone on to do
production work for Bjork's Homogenic and for Depeche Mode too. Varley's
been doing work under G-Man and presents Tony Montana, but the work is a
bit further away from LFO's roots than Varley's production work. Track 4
from the LFO (Leeds Warehouse) 12 is still a most glorious example of how
to put together atmospherics, bleep and base.

Sweet Exorcist's Test One, that can be traced far further back... half of
Sweet Exorcist is Cabarat Voltaire's Richard H. Kirk. The Cabs Body  Soul
LP is probably one of the most underestimated LP's within the early stream
of techno that was coing from the UK in the early 90's. The similarities
between some of the work that Mills did with Waveform Transmissions Vol.1
and X-102 are scarey-close.

And finally... Orbital. If you get chance to dig around, pick up the two
Mutations EP's... the reworking of Chime is fantastic.



.. . :: http://nomorewords.net 





Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-14 Thread Tristan Watkins
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Subject: RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
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 beside orbital, 808state, and lfo
 at that time i used to be really into the shamen (their en-tact album) as
well!
 am i the only one??
 :)

LOL. I had that 'Move Any Mountain' remix CD with like 98,065,347 different
versions. O V E R K I L L. :) http://www.discogs.com/release/79876  The 666
Edit by Evil Eddie Richards was s bd!

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Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-14 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Tristan Watkins wrote on Sat, 14 Dec 2002 about following:

 
  beside orbital, 808state, and lfo
  at that time i used to be really into the shamen (their en-tact album) as
  well!
  am i the only one??
  :)
 
 LOL. I had that 'Move Any Mountain' remix CD with like 98,065,347 different
 versions. O V E R K I L L. :) http://www.discogs.com/release/79876  The 666
 Edit by Evil Eddie Richards was s bd!

well i got that 3x12 as well as quite a bunch of other shamen 12's 
from 90 to 92 (my favourite shamen era). i think they did good dance 
pop with style. (not forgetting the humor either).

sakke
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RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Craig Harrison
Just some additional info on the posts made.

FSOL's took the Stakker theme from one of their previous projects, AST (see
Asus Flow). There's an old compilation out there of all their various
guises, such as Yage, Mental Cube, Stakker... basically everything key that
they did on Earthbeat.

As for A Guy Called Gerald, he did a response to what happened to him when
he left/was pushed from 808 State, called Specific Hate, in which he uses
samples of the phone message (apparently, he was kicked from 808 State over
the phone), and he whistles the tune from Pacific State all the way through.
Not sure of the label, but I remember it had a Club as the label logo (as in
Hearts, Spades, Diamonds). Voodoo Ray got hammered, but the promo of it had
a great track Blow Your House Down on the flip-side, which was later
hashed into a more thumping version on the Chicago Symphony EP (red vinyl
bootleg-type affair).

As for LFO? Frequencies is probably one of the finest albums of the 90's.
LFO's LFO had a bit of a rough ride though, as Steve Wright ((ex-)BBC
Radio One deejay) claimed at the time that it was the worst record he
had ever heard, but was under strict instructions to play the track, as it
had been placed on the B-list for airing. John Peel still gave them alot
of praise tho at the time, and rightly so. Mark Bell's gone on to do
production work for Bjork's Homogenic and for Depeche Mode too. Varley's
been doing work under G-Man and presents Tony Montana, but the work is a
bit further away from LFO's roots than Varley's production work. Track 4
from the LFO (Leeds Warehouse) 12 is still a most glorious example of how
to put together atmospherics, bleep and base.

Sweet Exorcist's Test One, that can be traced far further back... half of
Sweet Exorcist is Cabarat Voltaire's Richard H. Kirk. The Cabs Body  Soul
LP is probably one of the most underestimated LP's within the early stream
of techno that was coing from the UK in the early 90's. The similarities
between some of the work that Mills did with Waveform Transmissions Vol.1
and X-102 are scarey-close.

And finally... Orbital. If you get chance to dig around, pick up the two
Mutations EP's... the reworking of Chime is fantastic.

 -Original Message-
 From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 December 2002 13:43
 To: Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) 808 State


 UR was influinced by skizzo.

 on 12/13/02 8:05 AM, Brendan Nelson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  In which case I'll put my foot right in it and say that Pacific
  influenced UR's The Theory... unless The Theory predates Pacific,
  which I don't actually think it does!
 
  Brendan




RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Brendan Nelson
| -Original Message-
| From: Craig Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 13 December 2002 14:56
|
| As for A Guy Called Gerald, he did a response to what 
| happened to him when he left/was pushed from 808 State, 
| called Specific Hate, in which he uses samples of the 
| phone message (apparently, he was kicked from 
| 808 State over the phone)...

If I remember correctly, wasn't Voodoo Ray originally Voodoo Rage,
another response to the 808 State situation?

| Mark Bell's gone on to do production work for Bjork's 
| Homogenic and for Depeche Mode too. Varley's been doing 
| work under G-Man and presents Tony Montana, but the work 
| is a bit further away from LFO's roots than Varley's production 
| work.

I think you mean than Bell's production work! They basically split up
because Varley was keen on pursuing a more straightforward clubby and
dancey sound than Mark Bell, who was keen to maintain the air of
sparseness and experimentalism in LFO's music. Mark Bell has put out a
huge amount of material under other guises, though, including the
Speedjack EPs on RS, the Lofthouse EP on Planet E, and a bunch of other
stuff. He's working on a new LFO album at the moment.

Brendan


RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Craig Harrison
I think Voodoo Rage was the name of the EP that Specific Hate came out on,
but memory doesn't serve me too well these days. f it wasn't, it shows one
thing... Gerald wasn't happy. :)

Yeah, I think I got me Varley's and Bell's mixed up. Good to hear about Bell
is doing some work as LFO tho... very good.

 -Original Message-
 From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 December 2002 14:58
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
 Exorcist  Orbital)


 | -Original Message-
 | From: Craig Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | Sent: 13 December 2002 14:56
 |
 | As for A Guy Called Gerald, he did a response to what
 | happened to him when he left/was pushed from 808 State,
 | called Specific Hate, in which he uses samples of the
 | phone message (apparently, he was kicked from
 | 808 State over the phone)...

 If I remember correctly, wasn't Voodoo Ray originally Voodoo Rage,
 another response to the 808 State situation?

 | Mark Bell's gone on to do production work for Bjork's
 | Homogenic and for Depeche Mode too. Varley's been doing
 | work under G-Man and presents Tony Montana, but the work
 | is a bit further away from LFO's roots than Varley's production
 | work.

 I think you mean than Bell's production work! They basically split up
 because Varley was keen on pursuing a more straightforward clubby and
 dancey sound than Mark Bell, who was keen to maintain the air of
 sparseness and experimentalism in LFO's music. Mark Bell has put out a
 huge amount of material under other guises, though, including the
 Speedjack EPs on RS, the Lofthouse EP on Planet E, and a bunch of other
 stuff. He's working on a new LFO album at the moment.

 Brendan



RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Craig Harrison wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:

 Just some additional info on the posts made.
 
 FSOL's took the Stakker theme from one of their previous projects, AST (see
 Asus Flow). 

umm, Humanoid was Brian Dougans solo project. (track was called Stakker 
Humanoid). there were other tracks by Humanoid but i can't remember the 
titles for now.

 There's an old compilation out there of all their various
 guises, such as Yage, Mental Cube, Stakker... basically everything key that
 they did on Earthbeat.

Humanoid was released on westside records, and my copy is on ZYX..  

there will be compilation of Humanoid tracks on rephlex soon. as well as 
soundtrack for their legendary eurotechno -video will be released on 
rephlex.

sakke
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RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Eric Scuccimarra


If I remember correctly, wasn't Voodoo Ray originally Voodoo Rage, 
another response to the 808 State situation?


Voodoo Rage was a jungle/DNB remix of Voodoo Ray down on the Black Secret 
Technology album. Great album as far as that genre is concerned, in my opinion.





RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Craig Harrison
If you get chance, try and look for AST (Art Science Technology) - Asus
Flow. It came out before Stakker was released on Westside (I think). There
are quite a few remix 12's of Humanoid tho.. the Plump DJ's mix that's used
in Wipeout Fusion is a real tasty affair.

I'm still trying to hunt down a copy of the video they did shortly after...
If you see something called Stakker Eurotechno or something like that,
grab it and hold tight. It later got used by Pot Noodle over in the UK.

 -Original Message-
 From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 December 2002 15:09
 To: Craig Harrison
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
 Exorcist  Orbital)


 umm, Humanoid was Brian Dougans solo project. (track was called Stakker
 Humanoid). there were other tracks by Humanoid but i can't remember the
 titles for now.





RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Craig Harrison
That cleared that one up.

:)

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 December 2002 15:10
 To: Brendan Nelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
 Exorcist  Orbital)



 If I remember correctly, wasn't Voodoo Ray originally Voodoo Rage,
 another response to the 808 State situation?

 Voodoo Rage was a jungle/DNB remix of Voodoo Ray down on the Black Secret
 Technology album. Great album as far as that genre is concerned,
 in my opinion.





RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Craig Harrison wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:

 I'm still trying to hunt down a copy of the video they did shortly after...
 If you see something called Stakker Eurotechno or something like that,
 grab it and hold tight. It later got used by Pot Noodle over in the UK.

i've seen it, thanks to a fellow listmember; but as i mentioned, the 
soundtrack for that video will be released on rephlex in the near 
future. 
 
sakke
-- 
 - * time to jack * - 
http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html



RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Craig Harrison
Ahh, my apologies.

/me keeps eyes open. :)

Dscaper
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of a man who knows.


 -Original Message-
 From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 December 2002 15:54
 To: Craig Harrison
 Cc: 313
 Subject: RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
 Exorcist  Orbital)


 Craig Harrison wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:

  I'm still trying to hunt down a copy of the video they did
 shortly after...
  If you see something called Stakker Eurotechno or something like that,
  grab it and hold tight. It later got used by Pot Noodle over in the UK.

 i've seen it, thanks to a fellow listmember; but as i mentioned, the
 soundtrack for that video will be released on rephlex in the near
 future.

 sakke
 --
  - * time to jack * -
 http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html




RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Craig Harrison wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:

 If you get chance, try and look for AST (Art Science Technology) - Asus
 Flow. It came out before Stakker was released on Westside (I think). 

ok gotta keep my eye on this one.

 There
 are quite a few remix 12's of Humanoid tho.. the Plump DJ's mix that's used
 in Wipeout Fusion is a real tasty affair.

i dunno, i've only heard just few mixes of stakker humanoid; all of them 
from '88! :) (12 i have has 3, original, radio edit and the omen mix) 
and i recently heard from a friend this really strange edit on beatbox 
records. 


sakke
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Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Oscillate

In a message dated 12/13/02 10:28:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If I remember correctly, wasn't Voodoo Ray originally Voodoo Rage,

another response to the 808 State situation? 

The reason why it's Voodoo Ray as opposed to Voodoo Rage was because Gerald's 
sampler ran out of time and cut off the last syllable.  True story.

pw


RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Craig Harrison
Well I never.

Don't let anybody say that you don't learn something new here everyday. :)

Dscaper
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of a man who knows.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 December 2002 16:07
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
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 Exorcist  Orbital)



 In a message dated 12/13/02 10:28:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  If I remember correctly, wasn't Voodoo Ray originally Voodoo Rage,

 another response to the 808 State situation? 

 The reason why it's Voodoo Ray as opposed to Voodoo Rage was
 because Gerald's
 sampler ran out of time and cut off the last syllable.  True story.

 pw



Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Gerald
Craig Harrison wrote:
 
 Just some additional info on the posts made.
 
 FSOL's took the Stakker theme from one of their previous projects, AST (see
 Asus Flow). There's an old compilation out there of all their various
 guises, such as Yage, Mental Cube, Stakker... basically everything key that
 they did on Earthbeat.

That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises. I was
into all of those when they came out, and luckily enough i have them all
on vinyl. Stakker - Humanoid, Mental Cube - Q, and AST - Esus Flow.
Funny, but i never checked who the writers were of any of them. I just
liked the sound at the time. 

G


Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Fabrizio Nahum

 That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises.

Dont forget Amorphous Androgynous



- Original Message -
From: Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
Exorcist  Orbital)


 Craig Harrison wrote:
 
  Just some additional info on the posts made.
 
  FSOL's took the Stakker theme from one of their previous projects, AST
(see
  Asus Flow). There's an old compilation out there of all their various
  guises, such as Yage, Mental Cube, Stakker... basically everything key
that
  they did on Earthbeat.

 That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises. I was
 into all of those when they came out, and luckily enough i have them all
 on vinyl. Stakker - Humanoid, Mental Cube - Q, and AST - Esus Flow.
 Funny, but i never checked who the writers were of any of them. I just
 liked the sound at the time.

 G




Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Gerald
Yeah, i remembered that one. 

Gorgeous album that i still like to listen to.

Fabrizio Nahum wrote:
 
 
  That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises.
 
 Dont forget Amorphous Androgynous
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 6:24 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
 Exorcist  Orbital)
 
  Craig Harrison wrote:
  
   Just some additional info on the posts made.
  
   FSOL's took the Stakker theme from one of their previous projects, AST
 (see
   Asus Flow). There's an old compilation out there of all their various
   guises, such as Yage, Mental Cube, Stakker... basically everything key
 that
   they did on Earthbeat.
 
  That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises. I was
  into all of those when they came out, and luckily enough i have them all
  on vinyl. Stakker - Humanoid, Mental Cube - Q, and AST - Esus Flow.
  Funny, but i never checked who the writers were of any of them. I just
  liked the sound at the time.
 
  G
 


Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

At 18:25 +0100 13-12-2002, Fabrizio Nahum wrote:

 

 That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises.


Dont forget Amorphous Androgynous


In the latest Future Music was an interview with FSOL, thy said they 
are releasing a new Amorphous Androgynous album...


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Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Gerald wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:

 That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises. I was
 into all of those when they came out, and luckily enough i have them all
 on vinyl. 

there's of course amorphous androgynous whose first album tales of 
ephidrina is excellent. released in '93.. :)

sakke
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Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

2002-12-13 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:

 At 18:25 +0100 13-12-2002, Fabrizio Nahum wrote:
   
   That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises.
 
 Dont forget Amorphous Androgynous
 
 In the latest Future Music was an interview with FSOL, thy said they 
 are releasing a new Amorphous Androgynous album...

Isness was released in europe as The Future Sound of London but in US 
it was released as Amorphous Androgynous, or was it the other way 
around. strange stuff indeed.
 
juno had it btw under The Future Sound of London presents Amorphous 
Androgynous.

sakke
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