(313) New Order v. TLC mashup

2005-09-08 Thread cyborgk
Hello all,

I thought I'd lighten the mood by sharing a little mashup I recently made,
New Order v. TLC Blue Scrubs. It's not at all a straight up mashup
though, actually more of a remix combining two different tracks. The
genre, for lack of a better term, is electro-glitch.

Page:
http://www.nocturnalnoize.com/mixes.htm
Direct link:
http://www.nocturnalnoize.com/mp3/BlueScrubs.mp3

313 relevance, I sorta make Detroit techno. Sometimes. I lived in Ferndale
on 9 mile, one mile from the D. And I worked at the Detroit Zoo for three
weeks once while staying downtown on Woodward.

So I'm almost a Detroit techno producer (now I live in Chicago).

~David



Re: (313) New Order v. TLC mashup

2005-09-08 Thread Jamil Ali
Nice mashup!  A lot of fun. 


I've been tempted to do things like this but never get around to it...

Jamil



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello all,

I thought I'd lighten the mood by sharing a little mashup I recently made,
New Order v. TLC Blue Scrubs. It's not at all a straight up mashup
though, actually more of a remix combining two different tracks. The
genre, for lack of a better term, is electro-glitch.

Page:
http://www.nocturnalnoize.com/mixes.htm
Direct link:
http://www.nocturnalnoize.com/mp3/BlueScrubs.mp3

313 relevance, I sorta make Detroit techno. Sometimes. I lived in Ferndale
on 9 mile, one mile from the D. And I worked at the Detroit Zoo for three
weeks once while staying downtown on Woodward.

So I'm almost a Detroit techno producer (now I live in Chicago).

~David


 





(313) New Order in Chicago

2005-04-18 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




May 02, 2005
Peter Hook DJ Set, SmartBar, Chicago 10pm (USA)
May 03, 2005
New Order Live @ Aragon Ballroom, Chicago (USA)




Re: (313) New Order mega-rarity-mix

2004-07-22 Thread Greg Earle

On Jul 21, 2004, at 1:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

its opening real player in a window for me- but isn't playing it
and when i open real player individually, it won't play either

i have this same problem with Radio 1.  how annoying


You guys are SO Gay.

:)

View Source is Your Friend.

Feed this to RealOne Player (or MPlayer, which, btw, now supports
Real streams as well, in the latest release, if you run Mac OS X
or Linux or insert other platform MPlayer supports here):

rtsp://streams.vpro.nl/pac01/18339341/surestream.rm

- Greg



Re: (313) New Order mega-rarity-mix

2004-07-22 Thread yussel
i did ya flamer. it still doesn't work.

=P



On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Greg Earle wrote:

 On Jul 21, 2004, at 1:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  its opening real player in a window for me- but isn't playing it
  and when i open real player individually, it won't play either
 
  i have this same problem with Radio 1.  how annoying

 You guys are SO Gay.

 :)

 View Source is Your Friend.

 Feed this to RealOne Player (or MPlayer, which, btw, now supports
 Real streams as well, in the latest release, if you run Mac OS X
 or Linux or insert other platform MPlayer supports here):

 rtsp://streams.vpro.nl/pac01/18339341/surestream.rm

   - Greg




(313) New Order mega-rarity-mix

2004-07-21 Thread Rebelbass/bookings
Rude 66 (Bunker/Clone) made a historical New Order mix. His New Order/Joy
Division collection counts over 200 rarities, flexidisks, singles albums
etc. The mix will be online only for one month..

http://www.vpro.nl/weblog/news.jsp?news=18339426

enjoy!
Rebelbass/DJ Lady Aïda



RE: (313) New Order mega-rarity-mix

2004-07-21 Thread Robert Taylor
Don't know what format that is in, but I can't play it :(

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Rude 66 (Bunker/Clone) made a historical New Order mix. His New Order/Joy
Division collection counts over 200 rarities, flexidisks, singles albums
etc. The mix will be online only for one month..

http://www.vpro.nl/weblog/news.jsp?news=18339426

enjoy!
Rebelbass/DJ Lady Aïda


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RE: (313) New Order mega-rarity-mix

2004-07-21 Thread Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
Rob,
I just clicked it and it fired up in real player.
Rav 

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Don't know what format that is in, but I can't play it :(

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Rude 66 (Bunker/Clone) made a historical New Order mix. His New Order/Joy
Division collection counts over 200 rarities, flexidisks, singles albums
etc. The mix will be online only for one month..

http://www.vpro.nl/weblog/news.jsp?news=18339426

enjoy!
Rebelbass/DJ Lady Aïda



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RE: (313) New Order mega-rarity-mix

2004-07-21 Thread Robert Taylor
I cannae use RA at work cos of the spyware they install.
Oh well

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Rob,
I just clicked it and it fired up in real player.
Rav 

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Don't know what format that is in, but I can't play it :(

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Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:53 AM
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Subject: (313) New Order mega-rarity-mix


Rude 66 (Bunker/Clone) made a historical New Order mix. His New Order/Joy
Division collection counts over 200 rarities, flexidisks, singles albums
etc. The mix will be online only for one month..

http://www.vpro.nl/weblog/news.jsp?news=18339426

enjoy!
Rebelbass/DJ Lady Aïda



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RE: (313) New Order mega-rarity-mix

2004-07-21 Thread yussel
its opening real player in a window for me- but isn't playing it
and when i open real player individually, it won't play either

i have this same prroblem with radio 1. how annoying




On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Mann, Ravinder   [CCS] wrote:

 Rob,
 I just clicked it and it fired up in real player.
 Rav

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 Sent: 21 July 2004 14:02
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 Don't know what format that is in, but I can't play it :(

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 From: Rebelbass/bookings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:53 AM
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 Subject: (313) New Order mega-rarity-mix


 Rude 66 (Bunker/Clone) made a historical New Order mix. His New Order/Joy
 Division collection counts over 200 rarities, flexidisks, singles albums
 etc. The mix will be online only for one month..

 http://www.vpro.nl/weblog/news.jsp?news=18339426

 enjoy!
 Rebelbass/DJ Lady Aïda


 
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Re: (313) New Order mega-rarity-mix

2004-07-21 Thread Rebelbass/bookings
I am sorry, the mix is only available in real audio.
check: http://www.worldinmotion.net the new order community website
latest news: 808 state is doing a few New Order remixes !
and there is a message from rude 66 himself announcing this mix.
perhaps you can try to reach him this way...

cheers
aida

-- 
meanwhile check: http://www.3voor12.vpro.nl/rebelbass
 http://www.rebelbass.com


 !
 
 - jobot
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Rebelbass/bookings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 5:53 am
 Subject: (313) New Order mega-rarity-mix
 
 Rude 66 (Bunker/Clone) made a historical New Order mix. His New
 Order/JoyDivision collection counts over 200 rarities, flexidisks,
 singles albums
 etc. The mix will be online only for one month..
 
 http://www.vpro.nl/weblog/news.jsp?news=18339426
 
 enjoy!
 Rebelbass/DJ Lady Aïda
 
 
 
 
 



Re: (313) New Order mega-rarity-mix

2004-07-21 Thread r3dshift
i emailed ruud about this earlier. I'd imagine he'll give
me a copy of the mix in mp3 format, and then (with his
blessing of course) someone (other than me) can host it.
-Joe


Re: (313) New Order mega-rarity-mix

2004-07-21 Thread Glenn McClements
I've ripped the mix and shared the .rm file on SoulSeek. my user name is 
glenn_mc


Glenn


I am sorry, the mix is only available in real audio.
check: http://www.worldinmotion.net the new order community website
latest news: 808 state is doing a few New Order remixes !
and there is a message from rude 66 himself announcing this mix.
perhaps you can try to reach him this way...

cheers
aida

 





(313) New Order video @ Paradise Garage

2004-01-09 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




So last night I'm watching VH1 Classic's 80s music video hour We are the
80s - not the one where they have talking heads make bad jokes about 80s
pop culture but the music video show

anyway, I saw a New Order video for Confusion that had unbelievably great
footage of the Paradise Garage, NYC back in the early 80s, and Arthur Baker
in it too!
it showed New Order walking down the entrance ramp of the club - Arthur
Baker takes a new recording of the tune into the DJ booth (sadly  Larry
Levan wasn't in the video - trying to pin down the DJ). The recording is on
a reel-to-reel and Baker cues it up and starts playing it and then it cuts
to all the dancers on the floor. Lots of fantastic images.

I really want to find this video - any clues as to where or on what tape
video collection is might be?

the version of Confusion didn't sound like the album version either - had a
much more live recorded for the video feel

VH1 followed that up with James Brown and Afrika Bambaataa's Unity video.
First good things I've seen on tele for a loong time.

MEK



Re: (313) New Order video @ Paradise Garage

2004-01-09 Thread Glenn McClements
The New Order website has the Confusion video in the media section, 
along with all the other New Order, Joy Division and Electronic videos.

http://www.neworderonline.com/MediaList.aspx?MediaTypeID=2

Glenn


So last night I'm watching VH1 Classic's 80s music video hour We are the
80s - not the one where they have talking heads make bad jokes about 80s
pop culture but the music video show

anyway, I saw a New Order video for Confusion that had unbelievably great
footage of the Paradise Garage, NYC back in the early 80s, and Arthur Baker
in it too!
it showed New Order walking down the entrance ramp of the club - Arthur
Baker takes a new recording of the tune into the DJ booth (sadly  Larry
Levan wasn't in the video - trying to pin down the DJ). The recording is on
a reel-to-reel and Baker cues it up and starts playing it and then it cuts
to all the dancers on the floor. Lots of fantastic images.

I really want to find this video - any clues as to where or on what tape
video collection is might be?

the version of Confusion didn't sound like the album version either - had a
much more live recorded for the video feel

VH1 followed that up with James Brown and Afrika Bambaataa's Unity video.
First good things I've seen on tele for a loong time.

MEK

 






Re: (313) New Order video @ Paradise Garage

2004-01-09 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Ah yes! Thanks Glenn

MEK



 
  Glenn McClements  
 
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The New Order website has the Confusion video in the media section,
along with all the other New Order, Joy Division and Electronic videos.
http://www.neworderonline.com/MediaList.aspx?MediaTypeID=2

Glenn

So last night I'm watching VH1 Classic's 80s music video hour We are the
80s - not the one where they have talking heads make bad jokes about 80s
pop culture but the music video show

anyway, I saw a New Order video for Confusion that had unbelievably
great
footage of the Paradise Garage, NYC back in the early 80s, and Arthur
Baker
in it too!
it showed New Order walking down the entrance ramp of the club - Arthur
Baker takes a new recording of the tune into the DJ booth (sadly  Larry
Levan wasn't in the video - trying to pin down the DJ). The recording is
on
a reel-to-reel and Baker cues it up and starts playing it and then it cuts
to all the dancers on the floor. Lots of fantastic images.

I really want to find this video - any clues as to where or on what tape
video collection is might be?

the version of Confusion didn't sound like the album version either - had
a
much more live recorded for the video feel

VH1 followed that up with James Brown and Afrika Bambaataa's Unity
video.
First good things I've seen on tele for a loong time.

MEK










Re: (313) New Order video @ Paradise Garage

2004-01-09 Thread alex . bond

anyway, I saw a New Order video for Confusion that had unbelievably
great
footage of the Paradise Garage, NYC back in the early 80s, and Arthur
Baker
in it too!
it showed New Order walking down the entrance ramp of the club - Arthur
Baker takes a new recording of the tune into the DJ booth (sadly  Larry
Levan wasn't in the video - trying to pin down the DJ). The recording is
on
a reel-to-reel and Baker cues it up and starts playing it and then it cuts
to all the dancers on the floor. Lots of fantastic images.

Legend has it that they got booed off stage at the Garage!
Anyone know if thats true? Can't remember where I read/heard it.

A guy in town who has a record shop collects Factory posters, and he has
the New Order Paradise Garage Gig poster up in his shop. Dope.

I think he got permission from Tony Wilson to do ltd (100) screen prints of
some of the really old ones (Russell Club ones mainly, but also some Hac
ones). I know what I want for xmas next year : )

anyway, sorry I was bored.
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Re: (313) New Order video @ Fun House (Not Paradise)

2004-01-09 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Watching the video again I noticed this time that all the club logos are
for The Fun House disco
here's info on it http://www.jahsonic.com/FunHouse.html
http://www.disco-disco.com/clubs/funhouse.html

thought it was Paradise at first because I recall their story about
performing there.
So the DJ in the booth must be Jellybean?

the Greg Wilson mix is excellent

MEK



  
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anyway, I saw a New Order video for Confusion that had unbelievably
great
footage of the Paradise Garage, NYC back in the early 80s, and Arthur
Baker
in it too!
it showed New Order walking down the entrance ramp of the club - Arthur
Baker takes a new recording of the tune into the DJ booth (sadly  Larry
Levan wasn't in the video - trying to pin down the DJ). The recording is
on
a reel-to-reel and Baker cues it up and starts playing it and then it cuts
to all the dancers on the floor. Lots of fantastic images.

Legend has it that they got booed off stage at the Garage!
Anyone know if thats true? Can't remember where I read/heard it.

A guy in town who has a record shop collects Factory posters, and he has
the New Order Paradise Garage Gig poster up in his shop. Dope.

I think he got permission from Tony Wilson to do ltd (100) screen prints of
some of the really old ones (Russell Club ones mainly, but also some Hac
ones). I know what I want for xmas next year : )

anyway, sorry I was bored.
_

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Re: (313) New Order video @ Paradise Garage

2004-01-09 Thread lazlo
That video--along with original cuts for The Perfect Kiss, True Faith, Blue
Monday 88, Touched By The Hand of God, Bizarre Love Triangle, and one other (I
think) are on a VHS tape called Substance.  shock  Came out at the same time
as the double album in 87.  I believe the Confusion vid also appears on
Neworderstory, the Canadian version from 93, but I could be mistaken.  Lots of
very cool stuff on the Canadian version, actually.

Regarding the Paradise Garage poster, if you come across one cheap you better
snatch it up; an original recently went on ebay for over $650.

There's a bit of a row about the Factory posters...the official reprints are
being offered through the Paul Stolper gallery (www.paulstolper.com) in London
with certificates signed by Peter Saville himself--for a somewhat hefty sum,
limited to 500, and for now just the Fac 1 and Fac 3 posters.  Another set of
so-called official reprints is being offered through Vinyl Revival, also in the
UK, for less money but on lesser quality paper (I have posters from both
sources).

BTW, the video for The Perfect Kiss has a copy of the Paradise Garage gig
poster up on the wall behind the band performing.  It was one of Jonathan
Demme's earliest videos as well. :)

Full of worthless data this morning,

Heath

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 anyway, I saw a New Order video for Confusion that had unbelievably
 great
 footage of the Paradise Garage, NYC back in the early 80s, and Arthur
 Baker
 in it too!
 it showed New Order walking down the entrance ramp of the club - Arthur
 Baker takes a new recording of the tune into the DJ booth (sadly  Larry
 Levan wasn't in the video - trying to pin down the DJ). The recording is
 on
 a reel-to-reel and Baker cues it up and starts playing it and then it cuts
 to all the dancers on the floor. Lots of fantastic images.

 Legend has it that they got booed off stage at the Garage!
 Anyone know if thats true? Can't remember where I read/heard it.

 A guy in town who has a record shop collects Factory posters, and he has
 the New Order Paradise Garage Gig poster up in his shop. Dope.

 I think he got permission from Tony Wilson to do ltd (100) screen prints of
 some of the really old ones (Russell Club ones mainly, but also some Hac
 ones). I know what I want for xmas next year : )

 anyway, sorry I was bored.
 _

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Re: (313) New Order video @ Paradise Garage

2004-01-09 Thread jonathan morse



 
 That video--along with original cuts for The Perfect Kiss, True Faith, Blue
 Monday 88, Touched By The Hand of God, Bizarre Love Triangle, and one other (I
 think) are on a VHS tape called Substance.  shock  Came out at the same time
 as the double album in 87.  I believe the Confusion vid also appears on
 Neworderstory, the Canadian version from 93, but I could be mistaken.  Lots of
 very cool stuff on the Canadian version, actually.



new order trivia:

the video for 'touched by the hand of god' was never aired in america
because of fears that we wouldn¹t get the joke over here...



Re: (313) New Order video @ Paradise Garage

2004-01-09 Thread alex . bond


Full of worthless data this morning

Hey Heath, if thats your worthless data, looking forward to the worthwhile
stuff!

Another set of so-called official reprints is being offered through Vinyl
Revival

Yes, thats the shop in town. He probably didn't ask Mr Saville, but I'm
sure Mr Wilson knows about them.
I haven't been in for a bit, must go check 'em, probably more in my price
range!

Did you feel they were worth buying? How do they look in a frame?

Regarding the Paradise Garage poster, if you come across one cheap you
better
snatch it up; an original recently went on ebay for over $650.

Ha! No such luck I'm afraid! everyone round here knows what they're worth.
Quite a few mates have got a few bits and bobs from back in the day, but
none will part with them. childhood memories!

There's a shop in Burnley where I go record digging every few months. One
day I was lucky enough to be in there when one of the 'other' Factory
designers walked in with a load of his original sketches and artwork. I
forget his name, but it wasnt Peter Saville! Turns out that the guy who
owns the record shop is one of the main collectors for all the Factory
artwork - he has virtually everything! He'd arranged to buy some of this
stuff off this guy. I forget the price, but the artist got turned over a
bit. A shame.

So, anyway, the guy leaves and I ask if I can look through what he just
bought. Loads of original ACR artwork, all in sketch format! So then, he
says, oh, you wanna come in the back, have a look at what I have. It was a
right little aladdins cave, I spent an hour gazing at all the wicked stuff
he had - a real treat.

Thanks for the Paulstolper link.

Alex

*king of REALLY worthless data* : )
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Re: (313) New Order video @ Paradise Garage

2004-01-09 Thread Michael Lees
Speaking of confusion dunno know if anyone else knows about the 808 
state remixes? Apologies if this is old news.


from 808 website...

# 808 State Prebuild album on Rephlex. All paperwork has now been 
completed, hoping for a March release date. To be proceeded by a single 
with 808 cover versions of New Order's Blue Monday and Confusion. A 
Guy Called Gerald and New Order have approved the release of the covers, 
the only hurdle now being Arthur Baker who needs to approve Confusion.


This should be really interesting.

-Mike

Glenn McClements wrote:
The New Order website has the Confusion video in the media section, 
along with all the other New Order, Joy Division and Electronic videos.

http://www.neworderonline.com/MediaList.aspx?MediaTypeID=2

Glenn


So last night I'm watching VH1 Classic's 80s music video hour We are the
80s - not the one where they have talking heads make bad jokes about 80s
pop culture but the music video show

anyway, I saw a New Order video for Confusion that had unbelievably 
great
footage of the Paradise Garage, NYC back in the early 80s, and Arthur 
Baker

in it too!
it showed New Order walking down the entrance ramp of the club - Arthur
Baker takes a new recording of the tune into the DJ booth (sadly  Larry
Levan wasn't in the video - trying to pin down the DJ). The recording 
is on
a reel-to-reel and Baker cues it up and starts playing it and then it 
cuts

to all the dancers on the floor. Lots of fantastic images.

I really want to find this video - any clues as to where or on what tape
video collection is might be?

the version of Confusion didn't sound like the album version either - 
had a

much more live recorded for the video feel

VH1 followed that up with James Brown and Afrika Bambaataa's Unity 
video.

First good things I've seen on tele for a loong time.

MEK

 









Re: (313) New Order video @ Fun House (Not Paradise)

2004-01-09 Thread Javier Drada
The ramp part is the Paradise Garage Ramp, I watched the video a few times. The 
club scenes however are of the Funhouse and the DJ in the booth is Jellybean. I 
am positive but I am trying to confirm it on DHP. Nice post


Thanks...

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Watching the video again I noticed this time that all the club logos are
for The Fun House disco
here's info on it http://www.jahsonic.com/FunHouse.html
http://www.disco-disco.com/clubs/funhouse.html

thought it was Paradise at first because I recall their story about
performing there.
So the DJ in the booth must be Jellybean?

the Greg Wilson mix is excellent

MEK



  
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anyway, I saw a New Order video for Confusion that had unbelievably
great
footage of the Paradise Garage, NYC back in the early 80s, and Arthur
Baker
in it too!
it showed New Order walking down the entrance ramp of the club - Arthur
Baker takes a new recording of the tune into the DJ booth (sadly  Larry
Levan wasn't in the video - trying to pin down the DJ). The recording is
on
a reel-to-reel and Baker cues it up and starts playing it and then it cuts
to all the dancers on the floor. Lots of fantastic images.

Legend has it that they got booed off stage at the Garage!
Anyone know if thats true? Can't remember where I read/heard it.

A guy in town who has a record shop collects Factory posters, and he has
the New Order Paradise Garage Gig poster up in his shop. Dope.

I think he got permission from Tony Wilson to do ltd (100) screen prints of
some of the really old ones (Russell Club ones mainly, but also some Hac
ones). I know what I want for xmas next year : )

anyway, sorry I was bored.
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Re: (313) New Order video @ Fun House (Not Paradise)

2004-01-09 Thread yussel
I can't believe no one mentioned the NYC pizza action


Yum




On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Javier Drada wrote:

 The ramp part is the Paradise Garage Ramp, I watched the video a few times. 
 The club scenes however are of the Funhouse and the DJ in the booth is 
 Jellybean. I am positive but I am trying to confirm it on DHP. Nice post


 Thanks...

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 Watching the video again I noticed this time that all the club logos are
 for The Fun House disco
 here's info on it http://www.jahsonic.com/FunHouse.html
 http://www.disco-disco.com/clubs/funhouse.html

 thought it was Paradise at first because I recall their story about
 performing there.
 So the DJ in the booth must be Jellybean?

 the Greg Wilson mix is excellent

 MEK



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 anyway, I saw a New Order video for Confusion that had unbelievably
 great
 footage of the Paradise Garage, NYC back in the early 80s, and Arthur
 Baker
 in it too!
 it showed New Order walking down the entrance ramp of the club - Arthur
 Baker takes a new recording of the tune into the DJ booth (sadly  Larry
 Levan wasn't in the video - trying to pin down the DJ). The recording is
 on
 a reel-to-reel and Baker cues it up and starts playing it and then it cuts
 to all the dancers on the floor. Lots of fantastic images.

 Legend has it that they got booed off stage at the Garage!
 Anyone know if thats true? Can't remember where I read/heard it.

 A guy in town who has a record shop collects Factory posters, and he has
 the New Order Paradise Garage Gig poster up in his shop. Dope.

 I think he got permission from Tony Wilson to do ltd (100) screen prints of
 some of the really old ones (Russell Club ones mainly, but also some Hac
 ones). I know what I want for xmas next year : )

 anyway, sorry I was bored.
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Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-10 Thread Two divided by zero
Maarten Baute wrote:
 
 Can I find some information on the net covering the link between new order
 and detroit techno?
 And what new order albums should I buy as an introduction to the band?

This post is a bit old, but...

I've always thought that the intro of a track in Red Planet 6 (I don't
remember which one) reminded me so much of the Perfect Kiss remixed
version that appears on Substance.

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Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-10 Thread The REAL Mxyzptlk

At 11:26 PM 8/9/2003, Two divided by zero wrote:

Maarten Baute wrote:

 And what new order albums should I buy as an introduction to the band?


Personally, I could spin Fine Time (off of Technique) for a long time 
before I get sick of it. What an incredible track.


jeff




RE: (313) new order.

2003-08-06 Thread David Powers
I didn't know shoegazing was important to the scene... Can anyone
elaborate on this???  I love My Bloody Valentine.  I think it was Lush
and Slowdive that I also like quite a bit.

~Dave

-Original Message-
From: Allen Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:09 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) new order.

Massive influence in European circles, the Manchester scene was probably
just as important as the UK shoegaze scene as far as influence on
electronic music. As far as techno, or more specifically Detroit techno,
it's hard to say but I wouldn't doubt it.

As far as recommendations go, I would pick up Substance and
Brotherhood
from New Order and Heart  Soul from Joy Division

 Hi,

 this question was probably asked a couple of times allready on this
 list... well... then once more.

 Can someone please tell me how important new order was for the
 development of techno? What do the detroit guys think of new order?
how
 did it influence what they were doing?

 Can I find some information on the net covering the link between new
 order and detroit techno?
 And what new order albums should I buy as an introduction to the band?

 Thanks,
 Maarten
 ---
 my musical interests
 http://www.morthenkiang.com/


-- 
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Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-06 Thread laz



I
think they were at least as important to Detroit as a lot of the other
synth-pop-type bands of that era, like Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, Erasure,
and the less-pop ones too. 

Definitely--it was the thick synths and rabid experimentation (on 
Stephen Morris' part) with electronic percussion that seems to have 
caught the fancy of not only early techno mavens, but early hip-hop 
artists as well.  After all, Quincy Jones was the one instrumental in 
getting the 4-some their deal (and subsequent fame) in the US.  


Substance...classics + rarities, and a great broad introduction, but not an 
album per
se. All of it is good though, and getting recommendations will largely just
reflect the listener's taste. 

If you have more $$ to drop, the expansive new Retro 4/5 disc comp has a 
lot of good stuff on it too, including rare remixes.  Perhaps one of the 
defining elements of New Order was (and continues to be) their selection 
of remixers (thanks in no small part to Pete Tong).  Arthur Baker, Shep 
Pettibone, early Oakenfold/Perfecto remixes, Andrew Weatherall, Kevin 
Sanderson, Terry Farley/Pete Heller/JBO (that's the Fire Island mix of 
Regret)...all of these remixed New Order early on.  Much of the good 
stuff is available on Retro.  

But yeah, go with Tristan's suggestion and get Substance, maybe 
Technique to get a feel for the dance-y stuff.  


Oh - you'll also probably like the Fire Island remix on the Regret 12 (off
of 'Republic'), although that album has not stood the test of time as well
as most of their other work. Never heard the latest one. Couldn't bring
myself to taint the memory.

Republic and Get Ready both sit outside the traditional canon of most 
New Order fans.  Why?  Lots of theories abound, but in general the band 
more or less broke up after Technique (1989), and frankly never really 
found their groove again as a singular unit when they got back together. 
By the time of Republic (1993), all four of them had gone off and done 
a separate project (Morris and Gilbert having the cheekiest name--The 
Other Two)


Heath



RE: (313) new order.

2003-08-06 Thread Kelly M
As far as the side-projects go, you must agree, Barny's work with Johnny
Marr and Neil Tennant in the first Electronic album produced some
amazing, severely under-rated music.


-Original Message-
From: laz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:32 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) new order.



I
think they were at least as important to Detroit as a lot of the other
synth-pop-type bands of that era, like Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys,
Erasure,
and the less-pop ones too. 

Definitely--it was the thick synths and rabid experimentation (on 
Stephen Morris' part) with electronic percussion that seems to have 
caught the fancy of not only early techno mavens, but early hip-hop 
artists as well.  After all, Quincy Jones was the one instrumental in 
getting the 4-some their deal (and subsequent fame) in the US.  

Substance...classics + rarities, and a great broad introduction, but
not an album per
se. All of it is good though, and getting recommendations will largely
just
reflect the listener's taste. 

If you have more $$ to drop, the expansive new Retro 4/5 disc comp has a

lot of good stuff on it too, including rare remixes.  Perhaps one of the

defining elements of New Order was (and continues to be) their selection

of remixers (thanks in no small part to Pete Tong).  Arthur Baker, Shep 
Pettibone, early Oakenfold/Perfecto remixes, Andrew Weatherall, Kevin 
Sanderson, Terry Farley/Pete Heller/JBO (that's the Fire Island mix of 
Regret)...all of these remixed New Order early on.  Much of the good 
stuff is available on Retro.  

But yeah, go with Tristan's suggestion and get Substance, maybe 
Technique to get a feel for the dance-y stuff.  

Oh - you'll also probably like the Fire Island remix on the Regret 12
(off
of 'Republic'), although that album has not stood the test of time as
well
as most of their other work. Never heard the latest one. Couldn't bring
myself to taint the memory.

Republic and Get Ready both sit outside the traditional canon of most 
New Order fans.  Why?  Lots of theories abound, but in general the band 
more or less broke up after Technique (1989), and frankly never really 
found their groove again as a singular unit when they got back together.

 By the time of Republic (1993), all four of them had gone off and done 
a separate project (Morris and Gilbert having the cheekiest name--The 
Other Two)

Heath



Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-06 Thread lisa

That was the album I thought of as well. Absolutely classic.  :)

Their single Confusion was a huge crossover song. Back in the day you'd 
find this played at most *any* east coast club playing dance music, no 
matter what the genre.


lisa


Phonopsia wrote:
- Original Message - 



[snip]


Personally, I'd put Power Corruption  Lies at the top of your list, in
terms of proper albums


[snip]




Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-06 Thread O.L. From The Basement
Yes, as for a Detroit connection remix wise,  Kevin Saunderson remixed
Round  Round on Quest Records in 1989. Also, Steve 'Silk' Hurley did two
remixes of Fine Time on the same label.

Orrin
- Original Message - 
From: laz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: (313) new order.


 
 
 I
 think they were at least as important to Detroit as a lot of the other
 synth-pop-type bands of that era, like Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys,
Erasure,
 and the less-pop ones too.
 
 Definitely--it was the thick synths and rabid experimentation (on
 Stephen Morris' part) with electronic percussion that seems to have
 caught the fancy of not only early techno mavens, but early hip-hop
 artists as well.  After all, Quincy Jones was the one instrumental in
 getting the 4-some their deal (and subsequent fame) in the US.

 Substance...classics + rarities, and a great broad introduction, but not
an album per
 se. All of it is good though, and getting recommendations will largely
just
 reflect the listener's taste.
 
 If you have more $$ to drop, the expansive new Retro 4/5 disc comp has a
 lot of good stuff on it too, including rare remixes.  Perhaps one of the
 defining elements of New Order was (and continues to be) their selection
 of remixers (thanks in no small part to Pete Tong).  Arthur Baker, Shep
 Pettibone, early Oakenfold/Perfecto remixes, Andrew Weatherall, Kevin
 Sanderson, Terry Farley/Pete Heller/JBO (that's the Fire Island mix of
 Regret)...all of these remixed New Order early on.  Much of the good
 stuff is available on Retro.

 But yeah, go with Tristan's suggestion and get Substance, maybe
 Technique to get a feel for the dance-y stuff.

 Oh - you'll also probably like the Fire Island remix on the Regret 12
(off
 of 'Republic'), although that album has not stood the test of time as
well
 as most of their other work. Never heard the latest one. Couldn't bring
 myself to taint the memory.
 
 Republic and Get Ready both sit outside the traditional canon of most
 New Order fans.  Why?  Lots of theories abound, but in general the band
 more or less broke up after Technique (1989), and frankly never really
 found their groove again as a singular unit when they got back together.
  By the time of Republic (1993), all four of them had gone off and done
 a separate project (Morris and Gilbert having the cheekiest name--The
 Other Two)

 Heath





Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-06 Thread Mike Brown
O.L. From The Basement wrote:
 Yes, as for a Detroit connection remix wise,  Kevin Saunderson remixed
 Round  Round on Quest Records in 1989.

Not just Kevin Saunderson, but Ben Grosse (also of Detroit, I assume;
he mixed Good Life) as well.

There's a nice discography at http://www.niagara.edu/neworder/
although it doesn't really help sort out the, erm, confusion
among the mix titles. You have to check the records.


Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-06 Thread yussel
i'll never forget the first time i heard a bootleg of joy division
performing ceremony. this was after it was already my favorite new order
song. i felt like i was listening to a ghost.

On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Phonopsia wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:58 PM
 Subject: (313) new order.


  Can I find some information on the net covering the link between new order
  and detroit techno?

 Aha! One of my favorite subjects, and for a long time my favorite band. I
 think they were at least as important to Detroit as a lot of the other
 synth-pop-type bands of that era, like Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, Erasure,
 and the less-pop ones too. Of all of those that I named, New Order was
 arguably the moodiest, so you could follow that to mean that they were one
 of the more influential synth-pop bands, with the way the Detroit sound
 developed. Of course, you have to take into account industrial stuff, house,
 italo, etc as well, but I don't think you can discount their importance,
 although it would be hard to quantify I suspect, other than referencing old
 playlists maybe?

  And what new order albums should I buy as an introduction to the band?


 Substance is an amazing compilation of revised (remixed and often extended)
 classics + rarities, and a great broad introduction, but not an album per
 se. All of it is good though, and getting recommendations will largely just
 reflect the listener's taste. Me, I love almost all of it - with Brotherhood
 and post-Technique stuff not quite living up to the normal standards in my
 mind. Low Life has great moments, and is coherent throughout (unlike
 Brotherhood IMHO - still love a couple of tracks on there though). Technique
 is brilliant, and some of the best dancefloor stuff was on that album.
 Personally, I'd put Power Corruption  Lies at the top of your list, in
 terms of proper albums (f*ck 'Blue Monday', I'm talking about '5 8 6' and
 'Your Silent Face' - I suspect this is the one you mean, Sean?), and
 Movement would be a close second for me (although more along the lines of
 Joy Division than later New Order). Also make sure to get Factus, for the
 best versions of Everything's Gone Green and Temptation. Rawer than the
 cleaned up versions on Substance, which I also love, but ain't quite the
 same for me.

 Oh - you'll also probably like the Fire Island remix on the Regret 12 (off
 of 'Republic'), although that album has not stood the test of time as well
 as most of their other work. Never heard the latest one. Couldn't bring
 myself to taint the memory.

 I'll caution, that some of the poppier stuff may seem a bit saccharine on a
 first listen, but it may grow on you - may not. I wonder what I would think
 of it if I first heard it today???

 Tristan
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Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-06 Thread yussel
I tend to agree, but I still love Regret as a fantastic pop song.


 
 Republic and Get Ready both sit outside the traditional canon of most
 New Order fans.  Why?  Lots of theories abound, but in general the band
 more or less broke up after Technique (1989), and frankly never really
 found their groove again as a singular unit when they got back together.
  By the time of Republic (1993), all four of them had gone off and done
 a separate project (Morris and Gilbert having the cheekiest name--The
 Other Two)

 Heath




Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-06 Thread Matt Hellige
[Kelly M [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 As far as the side-projects go, you must agree, Barny's work with Johnny
 Marr and Neil Tennant in the first Electronic album produced some
 amazing, severely under-rated music.

Definitely.

Matt

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Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-06 Thread Andrew
  As far as the side-projects go, you must agree, Barny's work with Johnny
  Marr and Neil Tennant in the first Electronic album produced some
  amazing, severely under-rated music.

 Definitely.

'Getting Away With It' is probably one of my all-time favourite songs by any
artist, oh! the melancholy! ;-)



Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-06 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - 
From: Kelly M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:42 AM
Subject: RE: (313) new order.


 As far as the side-projects go, you must agree, Barny's work with Johnny
 Marr and Neil Tennant in the first Electronic album produced some
 amazing, severely under-rated music.


And just as amazing and under-rated as that was, the second was
dissapointing. Did anyone ever read those liner notes? It was like Bernard
Sumner had woken from a twenty-year drug coma and realized there were
*actual social problems* in the world [SHOCK]. That put me off the whole
thing, and then the music kinda sucked too. The first one is definitely
amazing though, as you say. That was my musical wet dream at the time, and
lived up to it!

Tristan
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Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-05 Thread garrett
  Can someone please tell me how important new order was for the
development
 of techno? What do the detroit guys think of new order? how did it
influence
 what they were doing?

pretty important i would say, but i'll let the more verbose 313 members go
on about that  ;)

 And what new order albums should I buy as an introduction to the band?

definitely Substance.  or The Best Of.  but i would recommend spending the
extra $ for Substance.

you'll get a kick out of hearing all the New Order songs that were either
remixed into techno anthems (Everything's Gone Green, Confusion) or the
songs that have been sampled, mangled or otherwise played to death in
techno/house/etc sets a million times (Blue Monday, Bizarre Love Triangle,
True Faith, etc.)

while you're at it, buy some Joy Division records too.

(~fun fact of the day: Joy Division's second album, released in 1980, was
called Closer.)







Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-05 Thread Matt Hellige
[Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 Can I find some information on the net covering the link between new order
 and detroit techno?
 And what new order albums should I buy as an introduction to the band?
 

Can't comment on the techno connection, but as far as recommendations,
there's no better place to start than the two-CD collection Substance,
which is an absolute classic. Also, the more recent CD (the best of)
New Order (or something like that) is great, too, if a bit poppier.

Matt

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Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-05 Thread Allen Goodman
Massive influence in European circles, the Manchester scene was probably
just as important as the UK shoegaze scene as far as influence on
electronic music. As far as techno, or more specifically Detroit techno,
it’s hard to say but I wouldn’t doubt it.

As far as recommendations go, I would pick up “Substance” and “Brotherhood”
from New Order and “Heart  Soul” from Joy Division

 Hi,

 this question was probably asked a couple of times allready on this
 list... well... then once more.

 Can someone please tell me how important new order was for the
 development of techno? What do the detroit guys think of new order? how
 did it influence what they were doing?

 Can I find some information on the net covering the link between new
 order and detroit techno?
 And what new order albums should I buy as an introduction to the band?

 Thanks,
 Maarten
 ---
 my musical interests
 http://www.morthenkiang.com/


-- 
Allen Goodman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.fksche.com




Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-05 Thread sean deason
a better question would be: how much of an influence was Kraftwerk on New
Order?
I recall an interview where they mention a track of thiers with a working
title KW1 which stood for the Kraftwerk One I think it later became
Your Smile or something similar.
personally: No record collection could be complete without the LowLife
album. most of the tracks from that album got loads of club play in
Detroit's and LowLife was the soundtrack to many of my drives to and from
the clubs.

sean

- Original Message - 
From: garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: (313) new order.


  Can someone please tell me how important new order was for the
 development
  of techno? What do the detroit guys think of new order? how did it
 influence
  what they were doing?

 pretty important i would say, but i'll let the more verbose 313 members go
 on about that  ;)

  And what new order albums should I buy as an introduction to the band?

 definitely Substance.  or The Best Of.  but i would recommend spending the
 extra $ for Substance.

 you'll get a kick out of hearing all the New Order songs that were either
 remixed into techno anthems (Everything's Gone Green, Confusion) or the
 songs that have been sampled, mangled or otherwise played to death in
 techno/house/etc sets a million times (Blue Monday, Bizarre Love Triangle,
 True Faith, etc.)

 while you're at it, buy some Joy Division records too.

 (~fun fact of the day: Joy Division's second album, released in 1980, was
 called Closer.)








Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-05 Thread Matt Hellige
[sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 a better question would be: how much of an influence was Kraftwerk on New
 Order?
 I recall an interview where they mention a track of thiers with a working
 title KW1 which stood for the Kraftwerk One I think it later became
 Your Smile or something similar.
 personally: No record collection could be complete without the LowLife
 album. most of the tracks from that album got loads of club play in
 Detroit's and LowLife was the soundtrack to many of my drives to and from
 the clubs.

Yeah, FANTASTIC album.

Matt

-- 
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http://matt.immute.net


Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-05 Thread Allen Goodman
Why would that be a better question? That’s like if I said a better
question would be, how much influence the Kraut rock bands had on
Kraftwerk, or how much influence the minimalist composers had on Kraut
rock. We could go in circles

 a better question would be: how much of an influence was Kraftwerk on
 New Order?

 sean

 - Original Message -
 From: garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:21 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) new order.


  Can someone please tell me how important new order was for the
 development
  of techno? What do the detroit guys think of new order? how did it
 influence
  what they were doing?

 pretty important i would say, but i'll let the more verbose 313
 members go on about that  ;)

  And what new order albums should I buy as an introduction to the
  band?

 definitely Substance.  or The Best Of.  but i would recommend spending
 the extra $ for Substance.

 you'll get a kick out of hearing all the New Order songs that were
 either remixed into techno anthems (Everything's Gone Green,
 Confusion) or the songs that have been sampled, mangled or otherwise
 played to death in techno/house/etc sets a million times (Blue Monday,
 Bizarre Love Triangle, True Faith, etc.)

 while you're at it, buy some Joy Division records too.

 (~fun fact of the day: Joy Division's second album, released in 1980,
 was called Closer.)


-- 
Allen Goodman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.fksche.com




Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-05 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - 
From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:58 PM
Subject: (313) new order.


 Can I find some information on the net covering the link between new order
 and detroit techno?

Aha! One of my favorite subjects, and for a long time my favorite band. I
think they were at least as important to Detroit as a lot of the other
synth-pop-type bands of that era, like Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, Erasure,
and the less-pop ones too. Of all of those that I named, New Order was
arguably the moodiest, so you could follow that to mean that they were one
of the more influential synth-pop bands, with the way the Detroit sound
developed. Of course, you have to take into account industrial stuff, house,
italo, etc as well, but I don't think you can discount their importance,
although it would be hard to quantify I suspect, other than referencing old
playlists maybe?

 And what new order albums should I buy as an introduction to the band?


Substance is an amazing compilation of revised (remixed and often extended)
classics + rarities, and a great broad introduction, but not an album per
se. All of it is good though, and getting recommendations will largely just
reflect the listener's taste. Me, I love almost all of it - with Brotherhood
and post-Technique stuff not quite living up to the normal standards in my
mind. Low Life has great moments, and is coherent throughout (unlike
Brotherhood IMHO - still love a couple of tracks on there though). Technique
is brilliant, and some of the best dancefloor stuff was on that album.
Personally, I'd put Power Corruption  Lies at the top of your list, in
terms of proper albums (f*ck 'Blue Monday', I'm talking about '5 8 6' and
'Your Silent Face' - I suspect this is the one you mean, Sean?), and
Movement would be a close second for me (although more along the lines of
Joy Division than later New Order). Also make sure to get Factus, for the
best versions of Everything's Gone Green and Temptation. Rawer than the
cleaned up versions on Substance, which I also love, but ain't quite the
same for me.

Oh - you'll also probably like the Fire Island remix on the Regret 12 (off
of 'Republic'), although that album has not stood the test of time as well
as most of their other work. Never heard the latest one. Couldn't bring
myself to taint the memory.

I'll caution, that some of the poppier stuff may seem a bit saccharine on a
first listen, but it may grow on you - may not. I wonder what I would think
of it if I first heard it today???

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Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
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personally: No record collection could be complete without the
LowLife
album. most of the tracks from that album got loads of club play in
Detroit's and LowLife was the soundtrack to many of my drives to
and from
the clubs.

i picked up lowlife on vinyl for $.50. what an album. 

tom 


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Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-05 Thread sean deason

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 'Your Silent Face' - I suspect this is the one you mean, Sean?),

thanx Tristian! yes, *thats* the one I was trying to recall. it's very
kraftwerk sounding. even the vocals are sang in a very cold detached
monotone with a very Kraftwerk sounding intonation. it would fit perfectly
on the Computer World album.



Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-05 Thread sean deason
coolness! everyone on 313 should own this album. it's not very Joy Division,
nor New Order sounding, at least not the New Order sound that they became
known for (mess around, mess around, mess mess mess around...) but a perfect
hybrid of the two and more.

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Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:17 PM
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 From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 personally: No record collection could be complete without the
 LowLife
 album. most of the tracks from that album got loads of club play in
 Detroit's and LowLife was the soundtrack to many of my drives to
 and from
 the clubs.

 i picked up lowlife on vinyl for $.50. what an album.

 tom

 
 andythepooh.com







Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-05 Thread Phonopsia
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  'Your Silent Face' - I suspect this is the one you mean, Sean?),

 thanx Tristian! yes, *thats* the one I was trying to recall. it's very
 kraftwerk sounding. even the vocals are sang in a very cold detached
 monotone with a very Kraftwerk sounding intonation.

Never thought of it that way, but can see it, except for the last line of
the song. Don't think piss-off translates into German very well. ;)

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Re: (313) new order.

2003-08-05 Thread Phonopsia
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 coolness! everyone on 313 should own this album. it's not very Joy
Division,
 nor New Order sounding, at least not the New Order sound that they became
 known for (mess around, mess around, mess mess mess around...) but a
perfect
 hybrid of the two and more.


Yeah, and more. 'Elegia' always reminded me of The Cure.

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Re: [313] new order

2001-08-29 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I have heard it at the office a few times, it sounds too indie to me - which
I guess are their roots but not my thang.

Incidentally, can anyone recall the name of the last Advent LP? The electro
one from last year?


M. Todd Smith wrote:

 Remixes of 'Crystal' are out this week, you'll be surprised at who got the
 rmx duties.


I think depressed would be more appropriate than surprised, :-(
(the album is pretty good though).

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RE: [313] new order

2001-08-29 Thread Berislav


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I have heard it at the office a few times, it sounds too indie to me - which
I guess are their roots but not my thang.

 you could say its like that, but at the and maybe its only thing in rock
that is ok. iremember that i always liked bands like new order, happy
mondays..etc. its not substance , but it is good, for a short time. :-)

b.



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2001-08-29 Thread Martijn de Blaauw

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 'Crystal' has been remixed by Bedrock (John Digweed and Co.), a mix wich
 in my eyes sounded pretty cool! and a remix is done by Corvin Dalek
(German
 DJ??)..
 Dunno about the others though..
 Martijn


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  Sean Creen wrote:
 
  I think depressed would be more appropriate than surprised, :-(
  (the album is pretty good though).
 
  well, Pete Tong has ar'd the lp for London Records, so the choice of
  remixers for Crystal is hardly a surprise... unfortunately.
 
 
 
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Re: [313] new order

2001-08-29 Thread myster
 Incidentally, can anyone recall the name of the last Advent LP? The
electro
 one from last year?

Would that be: New Beginnings.  Some tracks were pretty electro.  I think it
was released further back than last year though.  It was their 2nd LP I
think.  (one THE most wicked sleeves ever too.)


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RE: [313] new order

2001-08-29 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

  Incidentally, can anyone recall the name of the last Advent LP? The
 electro
  one from last year?
 
 Would that be: New Beginnings.  Some tracks were pretty 
 electro.  I think it
 was released further back than last year though.  It was 
 their 2nd LP I
 think.  (one THE most wicked sleeves ever too.)

He also released an electro album on Gigolo last year called Time Trap
Technik. This was a full on electro album.

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RE: [313] new order

2001-08-29 Thread Jernej Marusic
Incidentally, can anyone recall the name of the last Advent LP? The electro
one from last year?

Time Trap Tehnik


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[313] new order

2001-08-28 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
Hi all,
Bought the new album of New Order ´get ready´ yesterday.
After 8 years of silence they still sound pretty good!!
Although it´s more of rockier sound they play nowadays,
it´s great to hear these guys again who have been such a big
influence on the (acid)house-culture (a bit of 313 here:)
Hearing Bernard Sumner´s voice and Hooky´s bassline again
brought back some great memories..aaah..the early days:)
try it, if you can!!! (opinions??)
Best regards
Martijn


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RE: [313] new order

2001-08-28 Thread Berislav

for me its a little bit less then i excpected. But its just enough to hear
sumner again. crystal is perfect.


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Hi all,
Bought the new album of New Order ´get ready´ yesterday.
After 8 years of silence they still sound pretty good!!
Although it´s more of rockier sound they play nowadays,
it´s great to hear these guys again who have been such a big
influence on the (acid)house-culture (a bit of 313 here:)
Hearing Bernard Sumner´s voice and Hooky´s bassline again
brought back some great memories..aaah..the early days:)
try it, if you can!!! (opinions??)
Best regards
Martijn


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RE: [313] new order

2001-08-28 Thread John Bush
 for me its a little bit less then i
 excpected. But its just enough to hear
 sumner again. crystal is perfect.

And dig that video!  I could've sworn it was Travis or Starsailor or Blur or
one of those half-pint Britpop twats... ;

John

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Re: [313] new order

2001-08-28 Thread lazlo
We'll likely see the classic New Order (i.e. dancey stuff) on the remixes and
on a possible EP out next year in conjunction with Chemical Brothers (it wasn't
finished in time for the album).  But if you come to Get Ready with any sort of
expectation that it's going to carry on from where either Republic or Technique
left off, you'll likely be disappointed.  Get Ready smells of both the
Electronic and Monaco projects as much as it does Brotherhood, which would be
about the only other referent in terms of the foursome's previous previous
output solo or as New Order.

I would offer Someone Like You as the standout track on the album, for the
reason that it's a pristine yet mature pop track of strong vocal harmonies,
Hook's bass solos, Gilbert's incredible synths/effects, and Sumner's lost-boy
mumbling--all in a slick, tight package.  It's a step aside...with class.

laz

Martijn de Blaauw wrote:

 Hi all,
 Bought the new album of New Order ´get ready´ yesterday.
 After 8 years of silence they still sound pretty good!!
 Although it´s more of rockier sound they play nowadays,
 it´s great to hear these guys again who have been such a big
 influence on the (acid)house-culture (a bit of 313 here:)
 Hearing Bernard Sumner´s voice and Hooky´s bassline again
 brought back some great memories..aaah..the early days:)
 try it, if you can!!! (opinions??)
 Best regards
 Martijn

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Re: [313] new order

2001-08-28 Thread Sean Creen


M. Todd Smith wrote:

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 rmx duties.


I think depressed would be more appropriate than surprised, :-(
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Re: [313] new order

2001-08-28 Thread rob webb

Sean Creen wrote:


I think depressed would be more appropriate than surprised, :-(
(the album is pretty good though).


well, Pete Tong has ar'd the lp for London Records, so the choice of 
remixers for Crystal is hardly a surprise... unfortunately.




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