[313] Lost Weekend

[Odeluga, Ken]

Last weekend here in London was very 313, with Atkins, Mills, Craig and
maybe a couple of others to be seen over the holiday (inc. Monday)  Now
that we've all probably recovered ;o) how did folk find the various nights?

I went to *** LOST *** which featured Colin Dale, Fumiya Tanaka, Mills,
Steve Bicknell, Du-Kru et al. Missed Du Kru which was a disappointment as I
wanted to see what the reax was from the main room. Any thoughts anyone?

Tanaka was awkward - He appeared to ocassionally try mixing *deliberately*
off the beat (or am I being too charitable?!?)

Colin Dale (imho): supberb performance. Recently he's been veering more
towards a house vein than techno, but there were a number of classics. A
H-Foundation track early in the set nearly blew the roof off, (sorry track
names not my forte but I know it was H-Fdn.) Dale is old school and it shows
in the long mixes and precision, but he kept my attention for at least 2+
hours  hope it's my perception and that he's not really slowly playing
out less and less 

Mills was Mills and in very good form - 'Sweet Smell Of Fear' appeared,
which was nice, as was 'I Feel Love' on a massive system ... However, I
sense a boredom creeping in on Mills. A few regular faces were missing, plus
already some are saying they'll give the next Lost at 28.9 (with Mills too)
a miss. Plus Mills is also on on 21.9 in London.

Opinions please!

Cheers,

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Re: [313] Lost Weekend

[Toby Frith]

According to reports, Carl Craig was pretty spectacular at Plastic People on
Friday, and Atkins did the business @ Signal. I thought Mills was excellent,
although I will admit that it wasn't the craziness of yore that I think most
of the Lost regulars still yearn for from him.




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> Last weekend here in London was very 313, with Atkins, Mills, Craig and
> maybe a couple of others to be seen over the holiday (inc. Monday) 
Now
> that we've all probably recovered ;o) how did folk find the various
nights?
>
> I went to *** LOST *** which featured Colin Dale, Fumiya Tanaka, Mills,
> Steve Bicknell, Du-Kru et al. Missed Du Kru which was a disappointment as
I
> wanted to see what the reax was from the main room. Any thoughts anyone?
>
> Tanaka was awkward - He appeared to ocassionally try mixing *deliberately*
> off the beat (or am I being too charitable?!?)
>
> Colin Dale (imho): supberb performance. Recently he's been veering more
> towards a house vein than techno, but there were a number of classics. A
> H-Foundation track early in the set nearly blew the roof off, (sorry track
> names not my forte but I know it was H-Fdn.) Dale is old school and it
shows
> in the long mixes and precision, but he kept my attention for at least 2+
> hours  hope it's my perception and that he's not really slowly playing
> out less and less 
>
> Mills was Mills and in very good form - 'Sweet Smell Of Fear' appeared,
> which was nice, as was 'I Feel Love' on a massive system ... However, I
> sense a boredom creeping in on Mills. A few regular faces were missing,
plus
> already some are saying they'll give the next Lost at 28.9 (with Mills
too)
> a miss. Plus Mills is also on on 21.9 in London.
>
> Opinions please!
>
> Cheers,
>
> K
>
>
>
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RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Robert Taylor]

I have to agree with you about Dale - much more robust and exciting than in
previous years.
I found Mills quite refreshing in that he veered away from his usual
trickery and even managed to fit in Kings of Tomorrow and Donna Summer (no
doubt that will make a few 313ers frown) without being cheesy. I know what
you mean about Mills boredom though, Ken. We Brits seem to be happy with one
good DJ over and over again rather than looking out for new talent. Why
can't we have a few other Detroit DJs over - Terrance Parker,  Kevin
Saunderson, Mike Grant, Mike Huckaby etc, evn DJ Godfather would be welcome
in the second room I think. They could also give a few British DJs a chance
as well - Surgeon and Sims can compete with the best of the Detroit DJs.

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Subject: [313] Lost Weekend


Last weekend here in London was very 313, with Atkins, Mills, Craig and
maybe a couple of others to be seen over the holiday (inc. Monday)  Now
that we've all probably recovered ;o) how did folk find the various nights?

I went to *** LOST *** which featured Colin Dale, Fumiya Tanaka, Mills,
Steve Bicknell, Du-Kru et al. Missed Du Kru which was a disappointment as I
wanted to see what the reax was from the main room. Any thoughts anyone?

Tanaka was awkward - He appeared to ocassionally try mixing *deliberately*
off the beat (or am I being too charitable?!?)

Colin Dale (imho): supberb performance. Recently he's been veering more
towards a house vein than techno, but there were a number of classics. A
H-Foundation track early in the set nearly blew the roof off, (sorry track
names not my forte but I know it was H-Fdn.) Dale is old school and it shows
in the long mixes and precision, but he kept my attention for at least 2+
hours  hope it's my perception and that he's not really slowly playing
out less and less 

Mills was Mills and in very good form - 'Sweet Smell Of Fear' appeared,
which was nice, as was 'I Feel Love' on a massive system ... However, I
sense a boredom creeping in on Mills. A few regular faces were missing, plus
already some are saying they'll give the next Lost at 28.9 (with Mills too)
a miss. Plus Mills is also on on 21.9 in London.

Opinions please!

Cheers,

K




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RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Jongsma, K.J.]

I really enjoyed Carl Craig last friday at Plastic People, he played a nice
set. Juan Atkins on sunday was amazing. The line-up was really good. The
livesets from Portable (Background), Any Vaz and Jan Jelinek where amazing!
Jan Jelinek had everybody dancing in the small backroom. Juan played a
fantastic set. I danced all the way through his set. Played some new tracks
and the old ones to. Only a bit sad to see that only about 300 people showed
up. Fortunatly these people whre really into the music that night. 


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> According to reports, Carl Craig was pretty spectacular at 
> Plastic People on
> Friday, and Atkins did the business @ Signal. I thought Mills 
> was excellent,
> although I will admit that it wasn't the craziness of yore 
> that I think most
> of the Lost regulars still yearn for from him.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> From: Odeluga, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:52 AM
> Subject: [313] Lost Weekend
> 
> 
> > Last weekend here in London was very 313, with Atkins, 
> Mills, Craig and
> > maybe a couple of others to be seen over the holiday (inc. 
> Monday) 
> Now
> > that we've all probably recovered ;o) how did folk find the various
> nights?
> >
> > I went to *** LOST *** which featured Colin Dale, Fumiya 
> Tanaka, Mills,
> > Steve Bicknell, Du-Kru et al. Missed Du Kru which was a 
> disappointment as
> I
> > wanted to see what the reax was from the main room. Any 
> thoughts anyone?
> >
> > Tanaka was awkward - He appeared to ocassionally try mixing 
> *deliberately*
> > off the beat (or am I being too charitable?!?)
> >
> > Colin Dale (imho): supberb performance. Recently he's been 
> veering more
> > towards a house vein than techno, but there were a number 
> of classics. A
> > H-Foundation track early in the set nearly blew the roof 
> off, (sorry track
> > names not my forte but I know it was H-Fdn.) Dale is old 
> school and it
> shows
> > in the long mixes and precision, but he kept my attention 
> for at least 2+
> > hours  hope it's my perception and that he's not really 
> slowly playing
> > out less and less 
> >
> > Mills was Mills and in very good form - 'Sweet Smell Of 
> Fear' appeared,
> > which was nice, as was 'I Feel Love' on a massive system 
> ... However, I
> > sense a boredom creeping in on Mills. A few regular faces 
> were missing,
> plus
> > already some are saying they'll give the next Lost at 28.9 
> (with Mills
> too)
> > a miss. Plus Mills is also on on 21.9 in London.
> >
> > Opinions please!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > K
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Ian Cheshire]

I am gonna stand me ground here and say a few things about Lost.

Dru Kru- me personally would like to watch paint dry.

the venue was too small for Jeff, but good for the Colin 's. I could not
stand Tanaka set. He did not realise that his third deck tone arm had gone
but 
he continued to mix on it and it kept jumping, why he did not run with two
decks , heaven knows!
but even then his mixing was not impressive. If he got paid more than £400
they need to get there
money back!

Sound system was ok and got better when Jeff came on. I think Jeff's set was
great, a
good broad range of music through the years.

Colin Dale (as I and I am sorry to say this, cannot stand Bicknell's mixing,
so opted for Colin) was superb!like
you say, very housey but on form, not taking to many risks but better than
Tanaka and Bicknell anyday.

Mills is back too soon to LOST for Light & sound thingy..Bring back RUSH I
say as he is always welcome in
my book and he hasn't been there for a while. ALso why don't they get some
home-grown talent.

I feel that they really do miss out on the talent that is about,
particularly John Kennedy and Arthur Smith. Ok I know
these guys but John can never say he plays at LOST cos of copyright stuff.
And why they never book Arthur of Grain , I mean the guy on three decks
would piss on Tanaka..man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their
bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the
floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this
list?

sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco
Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its
on Thursday.

One day they will be a nite that will bring new and exciting things here.

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From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 August 2002 11:52
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Subject: [313] Lost Weekend


Last weekend here in London was very 313, with Atkins, Mills, Craig and
maybe a couple of others to be seen over the holiday (inc. Monday)  Now
that we've all probably recovered ;o) how did folk find the various nights?

I went to *** LOST *** which featured Colin Dale, Fumiya Tanaka, Mills,
Steve Bicknell, Du-Kru et al. Missed Du Kru which was a disappointment as I
wanted to see what the reax was from the main room. Any thoughts anyone?

Tanaka was awkward - He appeared to ocassionally try mixing *deliberately*
off the beat (or am I being too charitable?!?)

Colin Dale (imho): supberb performance. Recently he's been veering more
towards a house vein than techno, but there were a number of classics. A
H-Foundation track early in the set nearly blew the roof off, (sorry track
names not my forte but I know it was H-Fdn.) Dale is old school and it shows
in the long mixes and precision, but he kept my attention for at least 2+
hours  hope it's my perception and that he's not really slowly playing
out less and less 

Mills was Mills and in very good form - 'Sweet Smell Of Fear' appeared,
which was nice, as was 'I Feel Love' on a massive system ... However, I
sense a boredom creeping in on Mills. A few regular faces were missing, plus
already some are saying they'll give the next Lost at 28.9 (with Mills too)
a miss. Plus Mills is also on on 21.9 in London.

Opinions please!

Cheers,

K




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RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Odeluga, Ken]

Cheers all! There seems to be a consensus of 'generally good but please,
more UK playas and don't let's get complacent.' ... Except Tanaka - jeez was
he annoying!!

Funny thing is, I saw him once in Tresor last year and another time at Lost
some years ago. Either he has deteriorated or he was having a bad night, as
on those previous two ocassions he was at least ok ...

Re., the desire for something slightly out of the ordinary, do watch Lost as
I hear that a party later this year may feature one massive name (never
before at Lost) and one name that should be gigantic - both great US djs. Go
figure!

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Re: [313] Lost Weekend

[Nicole Slavin]

>man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their
>bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the
>floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to >this
>list?
>sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
>Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco
>Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but >shame its
>on Thursday.

It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene.
Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who
support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing. And
the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to
keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms.
Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track selection
and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth going
to hear on their own merits.
Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of
London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen
him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special
for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides 3hrs
of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it!
Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not
just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old
stuff :)

.

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To: 'Odeluga, Ken' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
<313@hyperreal.org>
Date: 29 August 2002 12:12
Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend


I am gonna stand me ground here and say a few things about Lost.

Dru Kru- me personally would like to watch paint dry.

the venue was too small for Jeff, but good for the Colin 's. I could not
stand Tanaka set. He did not realise that his third deck tone arm had gone
but
he continued to mix on it and it kept jumping, why he did not run with two
decks , heaven knows!
but even then his mixing was not impressive. If he got paid more than £400
they need to get there
money back!

Sound system was ok and got better when Jeff came on. I think Jeff's set was
great, a
good broad range of music through the years.

Colin Dale (as I and I am sorry to say this, cannot stand Bicknell's mixing,
so opted for Colin) was superb!like
you say, very housey but on form, not taking to many risks but better than
Tanaka and Bicknell anyday.

Mills is back too soon to LOST for Light & sound thingy..Bring back RUSH I
say as he is always welcome in
my book and he hasn't been there for a while. ALso why don't they get some
home-grown talent.

I feel that they really do miss out on the talent that is about,
particularly John Kennedy and Arthur Smith. Ok I know
these guys but John can never say he plays at LOST cos of copyright stuff.
And why they never book Arthur of Grain , I mean the guy on three decks
would piss on Tanaka..man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their
bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the
floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this
list?

sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco
Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its
on Thursday.

One day they will be a nite that will bring new and exciting things here.

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From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 August 2002 11:52
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Subject: [313] Lost Weekend


Last weekend here in London was very 313, with Atkins, Mills, Craig and
maybe a couple of others to be seen over the holiday (inc. Monday)  Now
that we've all probably recovered ;o) how did folk find the various nights?

I went to *** LOST *** which featured Colin Dale, Fumiya Tanaka, Mills,
Steve Bicknell, Du-Kru et al. Missed Du Kru which was a disappointment as I
wanted to see what the reax was from the main room. Any thoughts anyone?

Tanaka was awkward - He appeared to ocassionally try mixing *deliberately*
off the beat (or am I being too charitable?!?)

Colin Dale (imho): supberb performance. Recently he's been veering more
towards a house vein than techno, but there were a number of classics. A
H-Foundation track early in the set nearly blew the roof off, (sorry track
names not my forte but I know it was H-Fdn.) Dale is old school and it shows
in the long mixes and precision, but he kept my attention for at least 2+
hours  hope it's my perception and that he's not really slowly playing
out less and less 

Mills was Mills and in very good form - 'Sweet Smell Of Fear' appeared,
which was nice, as was 'I Feel Love' on a massive syste

Re: [313] Lost Weekend

[Toby Frith]

I'm wishing now that I choose Signal over Lost, but my concerns with that
were over the sound at the venue, which, according to promoters who had used
it, was seriously dodgy, although this has now been cleared up. I'm sure
that things are on the up in London, as the likes of Farben and Jan Jelenik
(sp) will hopefully pave the way for some of the more interesting and
innovative European live acts to play over here on a regular basis.

Sept 7th - Fabrice Lig @ Fabric
Sept 28th - Vladislavy Delay at the Tate Modern


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To: Ian Cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Odeluga, Ken'
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend


> >man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their
> >bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the
> >floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to >this
> >list?
> >sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
> >Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco
> >Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but >shame
its
> >on Thursday.
>
> It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene.
> Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who
> support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing.
And
> the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to
> keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms.
> Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track
selection
> and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth going
> to hear on their own merits.
> Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of
> London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen
> him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special
> for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides
3hrs
> of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it!
> Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not
> just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old
> stuff :)
>


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RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Ian Cheshire]

well you took the words out of my mouth Nicole, I guess
I feel that yeah LOST has kinda become a norm for people that
we all go there..why I never went to see Carl Craig? well my mates were
going to
LOST and etc etc..

Also I guess I am supportive to John K as I get my records and some great
dealds of him, mainly promos that aren't out for 2 months etc , so its a
difficult one.

But yes I totally agree , next time I see another techno nite ( which will
be the Marco Carola nite)
i will be there and support that too,(If its as good as you say then let me
in!)

I guess I am spoilt by the European side I play in . I get to see Chris
Leibing, Adam Beyer,
Gayle San (when was she here last?) La-Di-da , RUSH, Sven Vath etc 

Like I said I wanna see a nite that will bring new faces , new people to the
London scene.

I would love to do this but my time is being torn ( this year) even more
with gigs, work , life and children.

Hopefully I will be going pro next year ( hopefully!) and I will have more
time to promote a nite, and I 
have always said I will do this( as you know Nicole), and it will only have
a one name person like say Mark Broom or Chris from Flux, to draw people,
the rest I would like to be new faces and support the uk scene with UK
talent.

I mean its gotta change and change is a good thing.



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From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 August 2002 16:40
To: Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend


>man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their
>bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the
>floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to >this
>list?
>sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
>Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco
>Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but >shame its
>on Thursday.

It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene.
Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who
support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing. And
the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to
keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms.
Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track selection
and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth going
to hear on their own merits.
Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of
London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen
him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special
for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides 3hrs
of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it!
Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not
just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old
stuff :)

.

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From: Ian Cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Odeluga, Ken' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
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Date: 29 August 2002 12:12
Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend


I am gonna stand me ground here and say a few things about Lost.

Dru Kru- me personally would like to watch paint dry.

the venue was too small for Jeff, but good for the Colin 's. I could not
stand Tanaka set. He did not realise that his third deck tone arm had gone
but
he continued to mix on it and it kept jumping, why he did not run with two
decks , heaven knows!
but even then his mixing was not impressive. If he got paid more than £400
they need to get there
money back!

Sound system was ok and got better when Jeff came on. I think Jeff's set was
great, a
good broad range of music through the years.

Colin Dale (as I and I am sorry to say this, cannot stand Bicknell's mixing,
so opted for Colin) was superb!like
you say, very housey but on form, not taking to many risks but better than
Tanaka and Bicknell anyday.

Mills is back too soon to LOST for Light & sound thingy..Bring back RUSH I
say as he is always welcome in
my book and he hasn't been there for a while. ALso why don't they get some
home-grown talent.

I feel that they really do miss out on the talent that is about,
particularly John Kennedy and Arthur Smith. Ok I know
these guys but John can never say he plays at LOST cos of copyright stuff.
And why they never book Arthur of Grain , I mean the guy on three decks
would piss on Tanaka..man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their
bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the
floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this
list?

sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco

RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Ian Cheshire]

mate I fancy the 28th at the Tate, thats sounds like a 
fun nite out..what do you reckon?



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Sent: 29 August 2002 16:35
To: Nicole Slavin; Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend


I'm wishing now that I choose Signal over Lost, but my concerns with that
were over the sound at the venue, which, according to promoters who had used
it, was seriously dodgy, although this has now been cleared up. I'm sure
that things are on the up in London, as the likes of Farben and Jan Jelenik
(sp) will hopefully pave the way for some of the more interesting and
innovative European live acts to play over here on a regular basis.

Sept 7th - Fabrice Lig @ Fabric
Sept 28th - Vladislavy Delay at the Tate Modern


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> >man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their
> >bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the
> >floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to >this
> >list?
> >sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
> >Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco
> >Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but >shame
its
> >on Thursday.
>
> It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene.
> Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who
> support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing.
And
> the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to
> keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms.
> Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track
selection
> and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth going
> to hear on their own merits.
> Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of
> London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen
> him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special
> for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides
3hrs
> of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it!
> Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not
> just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old
> stuff :)
>

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[james boylan]

Sept 28th - Vladislavy Delay at the Tate Modern


Jesus, I'd imagine the chin-strokers will be out in force for that one!  
Minimal techno in the modern art museum if you don't mind!!!


Only joking, should be good.





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> >man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their
> >bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the
> >floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to 
>this

> >list?
> >sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
> >Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco
> >Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but >shame
its
> >on Thursday.
>
> It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene.
> Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who
> support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing.
And
> the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had 
to

> keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms.
> Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track
selection
> and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth 
going

> to hear on their own merits.
> Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of
> London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all 
seen
> him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really 
special

> for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides
3hrs
> of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it!
> Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and 
not

> just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old
> stuff :)
>


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RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Ian Cheshire]

you got it James! ha ha chin stroke or chin wobble by itself, hmmm I reckon
the later
for me, well once a month is ok :0)

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>Sept 28th - Vladislavy Delay at the Tate Modern

Jesus, I'd imagine the chin-strokers will be out in force for that one!  
Minimal techno in the modern art museum if you don't mind!!!

Only joking, should be good.


>
>
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>
>
> > >man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their
> > >bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the
> > >floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to 
> >this
> > >list?
> > >sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
> > >Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco
> > >Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but >shame
>its
> > >on Thursday.
> >
> > It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene.
> > Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who
> > support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing.
>And
> > the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had 
>to
> > keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms.
> > Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track
>selection
> > and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth 
>going
> > to hear on their own merits.
> > Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of
> > London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all 
>seen
> > him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really 
>special
> > for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides
>3hrs
> > of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it!
> > Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and 
>not
> > just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old
> > stuff :)
> >
>
>
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RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Brendan Nelson]

So the UK art establishment has gotten over the shock of seeing Jeff Mills
fans invading the stage at the Royal Festival Hall? :)

It definitely sounds like a good night out though!

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|
|
| mate I fancy the 28th at the Tate, thats sounds like a
| fun nite out..what do you reckon?
|
|
|
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| From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 29 August 2002 16:35
| To: Nicole Slavin; Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
| Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend
|
|
| I'm wishing now that I choose Signal over Lost, but my concerns with that
| were over the sound at the venue, which, according to promoters
| who had used
| it, was seriously dodgy, although this has now been cleared up. I'm sure
| that things are on the up in London, as the likes of Farben and
| Jan Jelenik
| (sp) will hopefully pave the way for some of the more interesting and
| innovative European live acts to play over here on a regular basis.
|
| Sept 7th - Fabrice Lig @ Fabric
| Sept 28th - Vladislavy Delay at the Tate Modern
|
|
| - Original Message -
| From: Nicole Slavin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: Ian Cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Odeluga, Ken'
| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org <313@hyperreal.org>
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| Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend
|
|
| > >man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their
| > >bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the
| > >floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them
| subscribe to >this
| > >list?
| > >sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
| > >Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco
| > >Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but >shame
| its
| > >on Thursday.
| >
| > It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene.
| > Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who
| > support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing.
| And
| > the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting
| that I had to
| > keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms.
| > Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track
| selection
| > and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were
| worth going
| > to hear on their own merits.
| > Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of
| > London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but
| we've all seen
| > him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been
| really special
| > for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides
| 3hrs
| > of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it!
| > Put your money where your mouth is and attend something
| different and not
| > just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old
| > stuff :)
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[::\)]

> that things are on the up in London, as the likes of Farben and Jan
Jelenik
> (sp) will hopefully pave the way for some of the more interesting and
> innovative European live acts to play over here on a regular basis.
>


you know that jan IS farben right?  another alias jan uses is gramm.

just an fyi

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RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Ian Cheshire]

I'll have 1 then :0)

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> that things are on the up in London, as the likes of Farben and Jan
Jelenik
> (sp) will hopefully pave the way for some of the more interesting and
> innovative European live acts to play over here on a regular basis.
>


you know that jan IS farben right?  another alias jan uses is gramm.

just an fyi

-joe

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Re: [313] Lost Weekend

[Nicole Slavin]

The sound in the main room wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible either.
However, the sound for the live acts was pretty good. I remember sound
problems at the last Lost cause of the seepage of sound from the main room
into the next.
So, who's going to Flux? I reckon rm2 is the one to watch out for as that's
where Gary Martin and Ryan Blackman, Flux resident who plays a really varied
and excellent techno set, are spinning.
Oh, sound at Mass is pants as well
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Date: 29 August 2002 16:36
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>I'm wishing now that I choose Signal over Lost, but my concerns with that
>were over the sound at the venue, which, according to promoters who had
used
>it, was seriously dodgy, although this has now been cleared up. I'm sure
>that things are on the up in London, as the likes of Farben and Jan Jelenik
>(sp) will hopefully pave the way for some of the more interesting and
>innovative European live acts to play over here on a regular basis.
>
>Sept 7th - Fabrice Lig @ Fabric
>Sept 28th - Vladislavy Delay at the Tate Modern
>
>
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>Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend
>
>
>> >man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their
>> >bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the
>> >floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to
>this
>> >list?
>> >sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
>> >Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco
>> >Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but >shame
>its
>> >on Thursday.
>>
>> It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene.
>> Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who
>> support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing.
>And
>> the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to
>> keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms.
>> Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track
>selection
>> and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth
going
>> to hear on their own merits.
>> Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of
>> London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen
>> him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special
>> for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides
>3hrs
>> of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it!
>> Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not
>> just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old
>> stuff :)
>>
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[Robert Taylor]

Count me in. Looking forward to hearing Gary Martin. Any 313ers heard him
DJ?

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Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend


The sound in the main room wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible either.
However, the sound for the live acts was pretty good. I remember sound
problems at the last Lost cause of the seepage of sound from the main room
into the next.
So, who's going to Flux? I reckon rm2 is the one to watch out for as that's
where Gary Martin and Ryan Blackman, Flux resident who plays a really varied
and excellent techno set, are spinning.
Oh, sound at Mass is pants as well
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Date: 29 August 2002 16:36
Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend


>I'm wishing now that I choose Signal over Lost, but my concerns with that
>were over the sound at the venue, which, according to promoters who had
used
>it, was seriously dodgy, although this has now been cleared up. I'm sure
>that things are on the up in London, as the likes of Farben and Jan Jelenik
>(sp) will hopefully pave the way for some of the more interesting and
>innovative European live acts to play over here on a regular basis.
>
>Sept 7th - Fabrice Lig @ Fabric
>Sept 28th - Vladislavy Delay at the Tate Modern
>
>
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>To: Ian Cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Odeluga, Ken'
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org <313@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:40 PM
>Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend
>
>
>> >man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their
>> >bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the
>> >floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to
>this
>> >list?
>> >sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
>> >Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco
>> >Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but >shame
>its
>> >on Thursday.
>>
>> It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene.
>> Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who
>> support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing.
>And
>> the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to
>> keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms.
>> Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track
>selection
>> and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth
going
>> to hear on their own merits.
>> Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of
>> London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen
>> him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special
>> for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides
>3hrs
>> of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it!
>> Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not
>> just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old
>> stuff :)
>>
>
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[robin pinning]

> The sound in the main room wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible either.
> However, the sound for the live acts was pretty good. I remember sound
> problems at the last Lost cause of the seepage of sound from the main room
> into the next.
> So, who's going to Flux? I reckon rm2 is the one to watch out for as that's
> where Gary Martin and Ryan Blackman, Flux resident who plays a really varied

gary martin in the uk? i really need to see him play

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[robin pinning]

> > where Gary Martin and Ryan Blackman, Flux resident who plays a really varied
>
> gary martin in the uk? i really need to see him play

what i mean by that is: Gary if yer listening, play more in the uk!!

:)

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[Nicole Slavin]

>I guess I am spoilt by the European side I play in . I get to see Chris
>Leibing, Adam Beyer,
>Gayle San (when was she here last?) La-Di-da , RUSH, Sven Vath >etc


i gotta say that this doesn't seem spoilt to me in the face of what i heard
this weekend (Carl Craig at Plastic People was brilliant too). but then i'm
a 313 girl, just keep bringing them over and i'll be there (someone
listening i hope :)

>Like I said I wanna see a nite that will bring new faces , new people >to
the
>London scene.
>the rest I would like to be new faces and support the uk scene with >UK
>talent.
>I mean its gotta change and change is a good thing.


Well, i don't want the UK 313 scene to turn into a European techno scene. I
don't mind a bit of home grown, but I prefer it to be along a 313 vein. It
can still be kept fresh within this context, as the Signal night proved.


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Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend


>man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their
>bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the
>floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to >this
>list?
>sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
>Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco
>Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but >shame its
>on Thursday.

It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene.
Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who
support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing. And
the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to
keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms.
Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track selection
and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth going
to hear on their own merits.
Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of
London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen
him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special
for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides 3hrs
of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it!
Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not
just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old
stuff :)

.

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Date: 29 August 2002 12:12
Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend


I am gonna stand me ground here and say a few things about Lost.

Dru Kru- me personally would like to watch paint dry.

the venue was too small for Jeff, but good for the Colin 's. I could not
stand Tanaka set. He did not realise that his third deck tone arm had gone
but
he continued to mix on it and it kept jumping, why he did not run with two
decks , heaven knows!
but even then his mixing was not impressive. If he got paid more than £400
they need to get there
money back!

Sound system was ok and got better when Jeff came on. I think Jeff's set was
great, a
good broad range of music through the years.

Colin Dale (as I and I am sorry to say this, cannot stand Bicknell's mixing,
so opted for Colin) was superb!like
you say, very housey but on form, not taking to many risks but better than
Tanaka and Bicknell anyday.

Mills is back too soon to LOST for Light & sound thingy..Bring back RUSH I
say as he is always welcome in
my book and he hasn't been there for a while. ALso why don't they get some
home-grown talent.

I feel that they really do miss out on the talent that is about,
particularly John Kennedy and Arthur Smith. Ok I know
these guys but John can never say he plays at LOST cos of copyright stuff.
And why they never book Arthur of Grain , I mean the guy on three decks
would piss on Tanaka..man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their
bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the
floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this
list?

sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco
Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its
on Thursday.

One day they will be a nite that will bring new and exciting things here.

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Sent: 29 August 2002 11:52
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Subject: [313] Lost Weekend


Last weekend here in London was very 313, with Atkins, Mills, Craig and
maybe a co

Re: [313] Lost Weekend

[s mcgill]

What about the flux night this weekend with Stacey Pullen, Gary Martin & Ben
Sims?
http://www.fluxrecordings.com/

wish I could make it.

smc

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Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend

sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco
Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its
on Thursday.

One day they will be a nite that will bring new and exciting things here.


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[Max Duley / ARCart]

Carl Craig @ PP was just brilliant. That tiny pitch black room has the best
sound system in London, forget Fabric and it's body sonic room, this little
room fills nicely with people having their guts squeezed by bass. It's the
only place I feel comfortable without my ER-25s firmly in place, cos the
sound is just so clean. Carl played such a great set, it was so varied, and
as ever @ PP one felt one was experiencing something special and exclusive.
He played jazz, funk, house, techno, ambient, some electro and african
tribal stuff. Awesome from start to end. There was a 25 minute or so period,
from when he played 69, on through to Fix Flash and beyond, when the crowd
was just mental, but they were pretty mad the whole time, even when he
played the strings mix of "Jaguar" (the only time I've ever heard that track
played when it wasn't just for impact/effect).. with the crowd gasping
for a beat, only for him to play an old heavy chorded ambient remix of his
from yonks ago which went on for another 10 minutes or so. Magic. The
resident DJ was also excellent, but I forget his name. Anyway, that night
was definitely one of the best music nights out for a long time.

I really enjoyed Lost, but not until about half way through Bicknell's set.
Du-Kru, who I think are excellent and have seen them play brilliantly, were
lacklustre, and I'm not surprised given that they were stuck in the corner
of the large main room with the volume knob set to about 1.5. Should have
been in the smaller room I reckon.

Fumiya, well I dunno what happened to him,but it's the first time I've heard
him play badly. He was really bad,didn't seem to notice one deck skipping
constantly, bland tracks, bad mixes. What happened? Seriously, the only time
I've ever felt like I couldn't follow a DJ was when I played after Fumiya in
Tokyo last year, but this time I was not impressed one bit.

As I said, Bicknell's set seemed to start off where Fumiya's finished, but
developed nicely. People complain about him letting tracks play and then
cutting straight to another, but I always loved that in his style, and he
played some wicked tracks.

Jeff played the best I've heard him since about '97. Not as good as then by
a long way, but he certainly rocked and I was not disappointed. I liked the
way he let tracks play rather than quickfire mixing, I like to listen to
tracks for a while. Plenty of "what the f**k?" moments, some nice
breakdowns, a great vibe, lots of lovely sweating. A great night out indeed.
Not too sure about the rapid return in a month though. The last one was a
month ago, this is the first time Lost parties have been a month apart for
maybe 6 or 7 years.

Interested to know who Ken's "names" are. Nice to see you again Ken, (and
Toby of course).

RE: other DJs, I agree, but Lost is their party and I'd never presume to
tell them how to run it, after all they've been running one of the worlds
most revered techno night for 10 years now, they must know what they're
doing. Attendance is still strong, which is a paradox in the London
environment. How they've managed it for so long is totally beyond me.

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[Odeluga, Ken]

Max Duley:

>The last one was a
>month ago, this is the first time Lost parties have been a >month apart for
>maybe 6 or 7 years ...

I for one am not complaining! I'm getting old and the more they pack in the
better fr my point of view! ;o)

Thanks for the low down on CC Max. I'll be sure not to miss him again. The
dilemma of that weekend (of cost/or events at the same time) was a nice one
to have though!

... Techno (& roots "of other kinds" as Garnier said) have taken off in
London (again) which is quite astonishing really - but nobody would book it
if it didn't sell would they?

I hear that at the same time as Lost next month, Vladislav Delay will be
playing at the Tate Modern. I mean, what?!? Is good taste really back in!
And really, the year hasn't seen the end of the legendary names according to
my little soundings.

So see u around Max!

Ken

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[Ian Cheshire]

so yor happy to take in just Detriot techno but no other techno?? yet you
probably heard a 
few european techno tracks in your night out/s...

thats seems unreal that you can be soo blinkered in your
view on Techno..I thought the whole point of loving techno would open you to
other things..

well I guess I won't be askign for your help on the night I run then cos you
just want US techno 
and by you saying " I don't mind a bit of home grown, but I prefer it to be
along a 313 vein" is not 
working for me.

I guess thats why the uk scene is not well supported when ohters try to do
things, if there are more
uk 313 who have this view please speak cos this has defo shocked me.

-Original Message-
From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 August 2002 18:18
To: Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend




>I guess I am spoilt by the European side I play in . I get to see Chris
>Leibing, Adam Beyer,
>Gayle San (when was she here last?) La-Di-da , RUSH, Sven Vath >etc


i gotta say that this doesn't seem spoilt to me in the face of what i heard
this weekend (Carl Craig at Plastic People was brilliant too). but then i'm
a 313 girl, just keep bringing them over and i'll be there (someone
listening i hope :)

>Like I said I wanna see a nite that will bring new faces , new people >to
the
>London scene.
>the rest I would like to be new faces and support the uk scene with >UK
>talent.
>I mean its gotta change and change is a good thing.


Well, i don't want the UK 313 scene to turn into a European techno scene. I
don't mind a bit of home grown, but I prefer it to be along a 313 vein. It
can still be kept fresh within this context, as the Signal night proved.


-Original Message-
From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 August 2002 16:40
To: Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend


>man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their
>bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the
>floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to >this
>list?
>sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
>Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco
>Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but >shame its
>on Thursday.

It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene.
Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who
support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing. And
the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to
keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms.
Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track selection
and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth going
to hear on their own merits.
Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of
London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen
him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special
for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides 3hrs
of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it!
Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not
just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old
stuff :)

.

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From: Ian Cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Odeluga, Ken' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
<313@hyperreal.org>
Date: 29 August 2002 12:12
Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend


I am gonna stand me ground here and say a few things about Lost.

Dru Kru- me personally would like to watch paint dry.

the venue was too small for Jeff, but good for the Colin 's. I could not
stand Tanaka set. He did not realise that his third deck tone arm had gone
but
he continued to mix on it and it kept jumping, why he did not run with two
decks , heaven knows!
but even then his mixing was not impressive. If he got paid more than £400
they need to get there
money back!

Sound system was ok and got better when Jeff came on. I think Jeff's set was
great, a
good broad range of music through the years.

Colin Dale (as I and I am sorry to say this, cannot stand Bicknell's mixing,
so opted for Colin) was superb!like
you say, very housey but on form, not taking to many risks but better than
Tanaka and Bicknell anyday.

Mills is back too soon to LOST for Light & sound thingy..Bring back RUSH I
say as he is always welcome in
my book and he hasn't been there for a while. ALso why don't they get some
home-grown talent.

I feel that they really do miss out on the talent that is about,
particularly John Kennedy and Arthur Smith. Ok I know
these

RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Ian Cheshire]

I know its fat man, talk about a line up Stacey, Gary and Ben!! uk is 
being spoilt this theses last couple of weeks..sadly though I off to Germany
so yet agin will miss another great night! typical!

well if you go , have fun all!!


-Original Message-
From: s mcgill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 August 2002 18:38
To: Ian Cheshire; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend


What about the flux night this weekend with Stacey Pullen, Gary Martin & Ben
Sims?
http://www.fluxrecordings.com/

wish I could make it.

smc

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Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend

sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco
Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its
on Thursday.

One day they will be a nite that will bring new and exciting things here.

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[robin pinning]

> I know its fat man, talk about a line up Stacey, Gary and Ben!! uk is
> being spoilt this theses last couple of weeks..sadly though I off to Germany
> so yet agin will miss another great night! typical!

for UK in the above read London

couldn't resist the winge :)

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[Nicole Slavin]

Don't be shocked. It's preference, i was just telling you mine and i don't
expect you to make assumptions on how narrow or open minded i am.
Sure we don't have the same vision for a night but that doesn't mean that
people who want something different to you are not receptive to other stuff.
I certaintly attend a lot of things and give most nights a chance.
And yes, there is a lot of european techno that is great, the music from
Germany at Signal was superb, last night i was at a UK electro night also
listening to amazing music, etc,etc.  But detroit is my first
loveit's why i'm on this list and not some other.
I hope you understand a little better where i'm coming from and it doesn't
have to be the same place as you :)
Oh, also wanted to add. That in talking about Lost yesterday, i forgot to
mention that i think Lost has done a great job these 10 years in
consistantly supporting 313 artists and have really helped the London scene
to grow and maintain itself. I just don't think it's the *only* thing
around.
And yes you are right, Ken, there is room at Lost and other nights for all
sorts of techno and if one looks at Lost lineups, it has always been this
way.
-Original Message-
From: Ian Cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Nicole Slavin' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ian Cheshire
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Odeluga, Ken' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
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Date: 30 August 2002 10:12
Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend


>so yor happy to take in just Detriot techno but no other techno?? yet you
>probably heard a
>few european techno tracks in your night out/s...
>
>thats seems unreal that you can be soo blinkered in your
>view on Techno..I thought the whole point of loving techno would open you
to
>other things..
>
>well I guess I won't be askign for your help on the night I run then cos
you
>just want US techno
>and by you saying " I don't mind a bit of home grown, but I prefer it to be
>along a 313 vein" is not
>working for me.
>
>I guess thats why the uk scene is not well supported when ohters try to do
>things, if there are more
>uk 313 who have this view please speak cos this has defo shocked me.
>
>-----Original Message-
>From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 29 August 2002 18:18
>To: Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend
>
>
>
>
>>I guess I am spoilt by the European side I play in . I get to see Chris
>>Leibing, Adam Beyer,
>>Gayle San (when was she here last?) La-Di-da , RUSH, Sven Vath >etc
>
>
>i gotta say that this doesn't seem spoilt to me in the face of what i heard
>this weekend (Carl Craig at Plastic People was brilliant too). but then i'm
>a 313 girl, just keep bringing them over and i'll be there (someone
>listening i hope :)
>
>>Like I said I wanna see a nite that will bring new faces , new people >to
>the
>>London scene.
>>the rest I would like to be new faces and support the uk scene with >UK
>>talent.
>>I mean its gotta change and change is a good thing.
>
>
>Well, i don't want the UK 313 scene to turn into a European techno scene. I
>don't mind a bit of home grown, but I prefer it to be along a 313 vein. It
>can still be kept fresh within this context, as the Signal night proved.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 29 August 2002 16:40
>To: Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend
>
>
>>man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their
>>bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the
>>floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to >this
>>list?
>>sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
>>Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco
>>Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but >shame
its
>>on Thursday.
>
>It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene.
>Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who
>support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing.
And
>the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to
>keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms.
>Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track selection
>and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth going
>to hear on their own merits.
>Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of
>London chose t

RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Robert Taylor]

House Of God, Atomic Jam in Birmingham? Voodoo (now Electrovoodoo) in
Liverpool? The Orbit in Leeds? I-Funk in Manchester? Pressure, Monox and
countless others in Scotland? There's plenty of big techno nights around the
country, not to mention the smaller "DIY" nights and free parties (it's not
all acid trance). There's plenty of techno to be heard - you've just got to
make an effort to hear it sometimes.

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Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend



> I know its fat man, talk about a line up Stacey, Gary and Ben!! uk is
> being spoilt this theses last couple of weeks..sadly though I off to
Germany
> so yet agin will miss another great night! typical!

for UK in the above read London

couldn't resist the winge :)

robin...


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House Of God, Atomic Jam in Birmingham? Voodoo (now Electrovoodoo) in
Liverpool? The Orbit in Leeds? I-Funk in Manchester? Pressure, Monox and
countless others in Scotland? There's plenty of big techno nights around
the
country, not to mention the smaller "DIY" nights and free parties (it's not
all acid trance). There's plenty of techno to be heard - you've just got to
make an effort to hear it sometimes.

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> I know its fat man, talk about a line up Stacey, Gary and Ben!! uk is
> being spoilt this theses last couple of weeks..sadly though I off to
Germany
> so yet agin will miss another great night! typical!

for UK in the above read London

couldn't resist the winge :)

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[robin pinning]

> House Of God, Atomic Jam in Birmingham? Voodoo (now Electrovoodoo) in
> Liverpool? The Orbit in Leeds? I-Funk in Manchester? Pressure, Monox and
> countless others in Scotland? There's plenty of big techno nights around the
> country, not to mention the smaller "DIY" nights and free parties (it's not
> all acid trance). There's plenty of techno to be heard - you've just got to
> make an effort to hear it sometimes.

that's not what i meant. my comment was in reference to ian c's comments
about being spoilt in the uk (london) over recent weekends with plenty
of 313 stuff..

just to clear that up

robin...

>
> -Original Message-
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>
>
>
> > I know its fat man, talk about a line up Stacey, Gary and Ben!! uk is
> > being spoilt this theses last couple of weeks..sadly though I off to
> Germany
> > so yet agin will miss another great night! typical!
>
> for UK in the above read London
>
> couldn't resist the winge :)
>
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[Ian Cheshire]

off course I understand where your coming from , your view is valid as
anyone else's on this
list, I know the 313 is detroit first others second :0), I wiuld hate
everyone to think
the same I guess I thought by your email you were shunning the others that
are around, sorry 
if I misunderstood.

LOST has done an amazing job, they have brought many
over that others have tried to but failed. 

I guess I just feel passionate about the UK and like the 
Beatles I bet I will make it in Germany first then the uk, Its a shmae that
anyone trying to get recognition has to go elsewhere but then thats the uk
for 
you.

are you off to Flux then?

-Original Message-
From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 30 August 2002 11:00
To: Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend


Don't be shocked. It's preference, i was just telling you mine and i don't
expect you to make assumptions on how narrow or open minded i am.
Sure we don't have the same vision for a night but that doesn't mean that
people who want something different to you are not receptive to other stuff.
I certaintly attend a lot of things and give most nights a chance.
And yes, there is a lot of european techno that is great, the music from
Germany at Signal was superb, last night i was at a UK electro night also
listening to amazing music, etc,etc.  But detroit is my first
loveit's why i'm on this list and not some other.
I hope you understand a little better where i'm coming from and it doesn't
have to be the same place as you :)
Oh, also wanted to add. That in talking about Lost yesterday, i forgot to
mention that i think Lost has done a great job these 10 years in
consistantly supporting 313 artists and have really helped the London scene
to grow and maintain itself. I just don't think it's the *only* thing
around.
And yes you are right, Ken, there is room at Lost and other nights for all
sorts of techno and if one looks at Lost lineups, it has always been this
way.
-Original Message-
From: Ian Cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Nicole Slavin' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ian Cheshire
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Odeluga, Ken' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org <313@hyperreal.org>
Date: 30 August 2002 10:12
Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend


>so yor happy to take in just Detriot techno but no other techno?? yet you
>probably heard a
>few european techno tracks in your night out/s...
>
>thats seems unreal that you can be soo blinkered in your
>view on Techno..I thought the whole point of loving techno would open you
to
>other things..
>
>well I guess I won't be askign for your help on the night I run then cos
you
>just want US techno
>and by you saying " I don't mind a bit of home grown, but I prefer it to be
>along a 313 vein" is not
>working for me.
>
>I guess thats why the uk scene is not well supported when ohters try to do
>things, if there are more
>uk 313 who have this view please speak cos this has defo shocked me.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 29 August 2002 18:18
>To: Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend
>
>
>
>
>>I guess I am spoilt by the European side I play in . I get to see Chris
>>Leibing, Adam Beyer,
>>Gayle San (when was she here last?) La-Di-da , RUSH, Sven Vath >etc
>
>
>i gotta say that this doesn't seem spoilt to me in the face of what i heard
>this weekend (Carl Craig at Plastic People was brilliant too). but then i'm
>a 313 girl, just keep bringing them over and i'll be there (someone
>listening i hope :)
>
>>Like I said I wanna see a nite that will bring new faces , new people >to
>the
>>London scene.
>>the rest I would like to be new faces and support the uk scene with >UK
>>talent.
>>I mean its gotta change and change is a good thing.
>
>
>Well, i don't want the UK 313 scene to turn into a European techno scene. I
>don't mind a bit of home grown, but I prefer it to be along a 313 vein. It
>can still be kept fresh within this context, as the Signal night proved.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 29 August 2002 16:40
>To: Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend
>
>
>>man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their
>>bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the
>>floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to >this
>>list?
>>sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of
>>T

RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Robert Taylor]

Prime's Intergalactic Funk at Music Box. It's on tonight with Ben Sims and
John Berry (Orbit). The second room also has the legendary Outlet Collective
playing. Check it out if you are in the area.
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Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 30/08/2002 11:57:05
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Subject:RE: [313] Lost Weekend

House Of God, Atomic Jam in Birmingham? Voodoo (now Electrovoodoo) in
Liverpool? The Orbit in Leeds? I-Funk in Manchester? Pressure, Monox and
countless others in Scotland? There's plenty of big techno nights around
the
country, not to mention the smaller "DIY" nights and free parties (it's not
all acid trance). There's plenty of techno to be heard - you've just got to
make an effort to hear it sometimes.

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> I know its fat man, talk about a line up Stacey, Gary and Ben!! uk is
> being spoilt this theses last couple of weeks..sadly though I off to
Germany
> so yet agin will miss another great night! typical!

for UK in the above read London

couldn't resist the winge :)

robin...


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RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Ian Cheshire]

in leeds yeah?

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Prime's Intergalactic Funk at Music Box. It's on tonight with Ben Sims and
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Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

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What's I-Funk in Manchester?




Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 30/08/2002 11:57:05
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Subject:RE: [313] Lost Weekend

House Of God, Atomic Jam in Birmingham? Voodoo (now Electrovoodoo) in
Liverpool? The Orbit in Leeds? I-Funk in Manchester? Pressure, Monox and
countless others in Scotland? There's plenty of big techno nights around
the
country, not to mention the smaller "DIY" nights and free parties (it's not
all acid trance). There's plenty of techno to be heard - you've just got to
make an effort to hear it sometimes.

-Original Message-
From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend



> I know its fat man, talk about a line up Stacey, Gary and Ben!! uk is
> being spoilt this theses last couple of weeks..sadly though I off to
Germany
> so yet agin will miss another great night! typical!

for UK in the above read London

couldn't resist the winge :)

robin...


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RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Ian Cheshire]

yes your right... I widh I had a car that was super
fast then I could see all these people and I tell ya I would. :)

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House Of God, Atomic Jam in Birmingham? Voodoo (now Electrovoodoo) in
Liverpool? The Orbit in Leeds? I-Funk in Manchester? Pressure, Monox and
countless others in Scotland? There's plenty of big techno nights around the
country, not to mention the smaller "DIY" nights and free parties (it's not
all acid trance). There's plenty of techno to be heard - you've just got to
make an effort to hear it sometimes.

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> I know its fat man, talk about a line up Stacey, Gary and Ben!! uk is
> being spoilt this theses last couple of weeks..sadly though I off to
Germany
> so yet agin will miss another great night! typical!

for UK in the above read London

couldn't resist the winge :)

robin...


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Re: [313] Lost Weekend

[Toby Frith]

I think what's important is that we are seeing greater variety of both live
acts and DJs in London (perhaps in certain other parts of the UK as well) -
plus certain promoters and parties are merging house & techno acts back
together with some success - something which has been missing for a
considerable period of time. You've only to go to something like Open to
Torture to see the "soulless" side of the scene.



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> Don't be shocked. It's preference, i was just telling you mine and i don't
> expect you to make assumptions on how narrow or open minded i am.
> Sure we don't have the same vision for a night but that doesn't mean that
> people who want something different to you are not receptive to other
stuff.
> I certaintly attend a lot of things and give most nights a chance.
> And yes, there is a lot of european techno that is great, the music from
> Germany at Signal was superb, last night i was at a UK electro night also
> listening to amazing music, etc,etc.  But detroit is my first
> loveit's why i'm on this list and not some other.
> I hope you understand a little better where i'm coming from and it doesn't
> have to be the same place as you :)
> Oh, also wanted to add. That in talking about Lost yesterday, i forgot to
> mention that i think Lost has done a great job these 10 years in
> consistantly supporting 313 artists and have really helped the London
scene
> to grow and maintain itself. I just don't think it's the *only* thing
> around.
> And yes you are right, Ken, there is room at Lost and other nights for all
> sorts of techno and if one looks at Lost lineups, it has always been this
> way.
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 'Nicole Slavin' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ian Cheshire
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Odeluga, Ken' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org <313@hyperreal.org>
> Date: 30 August 2002 10:12
> Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend
>
>
> >so yor happy to take in just Detriot techno but no other techno?? yet you
> >probably heard a
> >few european techno tracks in your night out/s...
> >
> >thats seems unreal that you can be soo blinkered in your
> >view on Techno..I thought the whole point of loving techno would open you
> to
> >other things..
> >
> >well I guess I won't be askign for your help on the night I run then cos
> you
> >just want US techno
> >and by you saying " I don't mind a bit of home grown, but I prefer it to
be
> >along a 313 vein" is not
> >working for me.
> >
> >I guess thats why the uk scene is not well supported when ohters try to
do
> >things, if there are more
> >uk 313 who have this view please speak cos this has defo shocked me.
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: 29 August 2002 18:18
> >To: Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
> >Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>I guess I am spoilt by the European side I play in . I get to see Chris
> >>Leibing, Adam Beyer,
> >>Gayle San (when was she here last?) La-Di-da , RUSH, Sven Vath >etc
> >
> >
> >i gotta say that this doesn't seem spoilt to me in the face of what i
heard
> >this weekend (Carl Craig at Plastic People was brilliant too). but then
i'm
> >a 313 girl, just keep bringing them over and i'll be there (someone
> >listening i hope :)
> >
> >>Like I said I wanna see a nite that will bring new faces , new people
>to
> >the
> >>London scene.
> >>the rest I would like to be new faces and support the uk scene with >UK
> >>talent.
> >>I mean its gotta change and change is a good thing.
> >
> >
> >Well, i don't want the UK 313 scene to turn into a European techno scene.
I
> >don't mind a bit of home grown, but I prefer it to be along a 313 vein.
It
> >can still be kept fresh within this context, as the Signal night proved.
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: 29 August 2002 16:40
> >To: Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
> >Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend
> >
> >
&g

RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[alex . bond]

Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

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Ahh, right I know the one.

I think this sort of proves the point, to me this sort of music isn't
techno, and out of london, there is very little (except if you live in
Glasgow)

Certainly nothing in Manchester.




Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 30/08/2002 12:05:36
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Subject:    RE: [313] Lost Weekend

Prime's Intergalactic Funk at Music Box. It's on tonight with Ben Sims and
John Berry (Orbit). The second room also has the legendary Outlet
Collective
playing. Check it out if you are in the area.
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Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

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What's I-Funk in Manchester?




Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 30/08/2002 11:57:05
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Subject:RE: [313] Lost Weekend

House Of God, Atomic Jam in Birmingham? Voodoo (now Electrovoodoo) in
Liverpool? The Orbit in Leeds? I-Funk in Manchester? Pressure, Monox and
countless others in Scotland? There's plenty of big techno nights around
the
country, not to mention the smaller "DIY" nights and free parties (it's not
all acid trance). There's plenty of techno to be heard - you've just got to
make an effort to hear it sometimes.

-Original Message-
From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:21 AM
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Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend



> I know its fat man, talk about a line up Stacey, Gary and Ben!! uk is
> being spoilt this theses last couple of weeks..sadly though I off to
Germany
> so yet agin will miss another great night! typical!

for UK in the above read London

couldn't resist the winge :)

robin...


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RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Simon Walley]

so yor happy to take in just Detriot techno but no other techno??


I totally am. I tend to dislike techno clubs where the Detroit vs. rest of 
the world mix is anything less than 70/30.



thats seems unreal that you can be soo blinkered in your
view on Techno..I thought the whole point of loving techno would open you 
to

other things..


Most Euro/UK techno nights I've been to are *the* most blinkered in terms of 
'other things'. It's the Detroit jocks I've found who quite happily throw in 
stuff from other genres/styles. Thats why I prefer nights that have a 313 
relevance/predominance - they tend to have more of the unexpected to them.



I guess thats why the uk scene is not well supported when ohters try to do
things, if there are more
uk 313 who have this view please speak cos this has defo shocked me.


I always thought I was atypical - so its encouraging to know I'm not the 
only one :)


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Re: [313] Lost Weekend

[Paul Hudson]

Agreed.  I really miss days of The WOMB.

:-(


> 
> Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers
> 
>  Start of message text 
> 
> Ahh, right I know the one.
> 
> I think this sort of proves the point, to me this sort of music isn't
> techno, and out of london, there is very little (except if you live in
> Glasgow)
> 
> Certainly nothing in Manchester.
> 
> 
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RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Robert Taylor]

How is I-Funk "not techno"? 

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Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

 Start of message text 

Ahh, right I know the one.

I think this sort of proves the point, to me this sort of music isn't
techno, and out of london, there is very little (except if you live in
Glasgow)

Certainly nothing in Manchester.




Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 30/08/2002 12:05:36
To:Alex Bond/UK/INF/PwC, 313@hyperreal.org
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Subject:RE: [313] Lost Weekend

Prime's Intergalactic Funk at Music Box. It's on tonight with Ben Sims and
John Berry (Orbit). The second room also has the legendary Outlet
Collective
playing. Check it out if you are in the area.
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Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

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What's I-Funk in Manchester?




Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 30/08/2002 11:57:05
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Subject:RE: [313] Lost Weekend

House Of God, Atomic Jam in Birmingham? Voodoo (now Electrovoodoo) in
Liverpool? The Orbit in Leeds? I-Funk in Manchester? Pressure, Monox and
countless others in Scotland? There's plenty of big techno nights around
the
country, not to mention the smaller "DIY" nights and free parties (it's not
all acid trance). There's plenty of techno to be heard - you've just got to
make an effort to hear it sometimes.

-Original Message-
From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend



> I know its fat man, talk about a line up Stacey, Gary and Ben!! uk is
> being spoilt this theses last couple of weeks..sadly though I off to
Germany
> so yet agin will miss another great night! typical!

for UK in the above read London

couldn't resist the winge :)

robin...


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RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[alex . bond]

Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

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Because banging dance music is not, and never will be techno.

Techno is unfortunately a dirty word. I like techno, I don't like
monotonous rubbish.





Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 30/08/2002 12:18:21
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How is I-Funk "not techno"?

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Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

 Start of message text 

Ahh, right I know the one.

I think this sort of proves the point, to me this sort of music isn't
techno, and out of london, there is very little (except if you live in
Glasgow)

Certainly nothing in Manchester.




Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 30/08/2002 12:05:36
To:Alex Bond/UK/INF/PwC, 313@hyperreal.org
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Subject:RE: [313] Lost Weekend

Prime's Intergalactic Funk at Music Box. It's on tonight with Ben Sims and
John Berry (Orbit). The second room also has the legendary Outlet
Collective
playing. Check it out if you are in the area.
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Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

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What's I-Funk in Manchester?




Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 30/08/2002 11:57:05
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House Of God, Atomic Jam in Birmingham? Voodoo (now Electrovoodoo) in
Liverpool? The Orbit in Leeds? I-Funk in Manchester? Pressure, Monox and
countless others in Scotland? There's plenty of big techno nights around
the
country, not to mention the smaller "DIY" nights and free parties (it's not
all acid trance). There's plenty of techno to be heard - you've just got to
make an effort to hear it sometimes.

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> I know its fat man, talk about a line up Stacey, Gary and Ben!! uk is
> being spoilt this theses last couple of weeks..sadly though I off to
Germany
> so yet agin will miss another great night! typical!

for UK in the above read London

couldn't resist the winge :)

robin...


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RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Robert Taylor]

Maybe you haven't heard Sims then. He is techno whether you like it or not.
Don't attempt to redefine it because it doesn't fit in with your very narrow
ideas of what you expect from it.

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Because banging dance music is not, and never will be techno.

Techno is unfortunately a dirty word. I like techno, I don't like
monotonous rubbish.





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How is I-Funk "not techno"?

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Ahh, right I know the one.

I think this sort of proves the point, to me this sort of music isn't
techno, and out of london, there is very little (except if you live in
Glasgow)

Certainly nothing in Manchester.




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Prime's Intergalactic Funk at Music Box. It's on tonight with Ben Sims and
John Berry (Orbit). The second room also has the legendary Outlet
Collective
playing. Check it out if you are in the area.
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What's I-Funk in Manchester?




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Subject:RE: [313] Lost Weekend

House Of God, Atomic Jam in Birmingham? Voodoo (now Electrovoodoo) in
Liverpool? The Orbit in Leeds? I-Funk in Manchester? Pressure, Monox and
countless others in Scotland? There's plenty of big techno nights around
the
country, not to mention the smaller "DIY" nights and free parties (it's not
all acid trance). There's plenty of techno to be heard - you've just got to
make an effort to hear it sometimes.

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> I know its fat man, talk about a line up Stacey, Gary and Ben!! uk is
> being spoilt this theses last couple of weeks..sadly though I off to
Germany
> so yet agin will miss another great night! typical!

for UK in the above read London

couldn't resist the winge :)

robin...


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RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[robin pinning]

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> Because banging dance music is not, and never will be techno.
>
> Techno is unfortunately a dirty word. I like techno, I don't like
> monotonous rubbish.

funny you should say this as i went to creamfields this w/e (for those in
the US it's a big, mostly soulless commercial festival where people go to
get rained on) and whilst i liked what people like umek were playing i
can't beleive that people like that think a set of dj tools and nothing
else is acceptable.

this gives techno a bad name.

>Don't attempt to redefine it because it doesn't fit in with your very
>narrow
>ideas of what you expect from it.

i think the point is the exact opposite to the above, most techno nites
are happy to have a dj use looped tools _all_ nite in one long bangathon. this
puts people off techno (me included).

this is not a detroit versus uk vs euro thing either (to keep on
topic, 313 djs that i've seen play techno from all over) this is an
imagination thing and most techno djs that i see fail on that count.



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[john harvey]

> Because banging dance music is not, and never will be techno.
>
> Techno is unfortunately a dirty word. I like techno, I don't like
> monotonous rubbish.

that's right - most techno nights in the uk are jeff mills repetitive hard
techno at best.
where are the proper soulful detroit techno nights? where?

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RE: [313] Lost Weekend

[Odeluga, Ken]

Alex Bond>Because banging dance music is not, and never will be techno.
>Techno is unfortunately a dirty word. I like techno, I don't like
>monotonous rubbish.

... Well, to be fair, 'banging dance music' is what the type of techno which
we all remember (e.g. 'It Is What It Is') eventually became. Change happens.
We might like to revision history but, it's not wise when it's staring a man
in the face!

I bought some '94-issue Generator last week: Passarani, Jackson, Deason and
of course Oldham. Sweet, sweet tunes and a housey feel a-la Fowlkes.
Fast-forward 5 years and what are Passarani and Oldham doing? Razor-sharp
high-pitched noises overlaid over a compressed kick! Same artists - and I'm
sure it would be "still techno" according to them.

I for one am not winging though - when I look around and see the diversity,
fertility (steady on!) of this music (inlcuding EVERYTHING) I don't see any
reason to be bored at all.

K

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[Neontsetse]

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> I guess I just feel passionate about the UK and like the
> Beatles I bet I will make it in Germany first then the uk, Its a shmae
that
> anyone trying to get recognition has to go elsewhere but then thats the uk
> for
> you.


I know a bunch of techno DJs in the states who are mumbling the same thing
under their breath (about the US though). Not attempting to reinforce the
'grass is greener' myth, just speaking to the known problems everywhere. Are
there any techno scenes on earth other than select German and Spanish cities
that are happy and proud of what they've got? I'm actually asking. For
instance, I met someone from Dresden last weekend who was thoroughly
disenchated with the scene there.

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[Ian Cheshire]

funny you mention Dresden, I am off there for a benefit gig
in Sept with 120 other DJ's to raise money for Dresden,Marco Remus will
also be there :0)

Glad to hear the US are in the same turmoil..:0)  we are not alone :0)

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> I guess I just feel passionate about the UK and like the
> Beatles I bet I will make it in Germany first then the uk, Its a shmae
that
> anyone trying to get recognition has to go elsewhere but then thats the uk
> for
> you.


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under their breath (about the US though). Not attempting to reinforce the
'grass is greener' myth, just speaking to the known problems everywhere. Are
there any techno scenes on earth other than select German and Spanish cities
that are happy and proud of what they've got? I'm actually asking. For
instance, I met someone from Dresden last weekend who was thoroughly
disenchated with the scene there.

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Re: [313] Lost Weekend

[Fabrizio Nahum]

> Fast-forward 5 years and what are Passarani and Oldham doing?

Marco Passarani ha recently created a new label, Pigna Records, along with
Mat101/Jolly Music dudes Francesco De Bellis and Mario Pierro.

Musically i wouldn't describe his musica exactly the way you did, but he has
abandoned the more melancholy melodies of past, with his release as
Passarani 2099.
His dj-sets though are great - elektro, techno, detroit-tech all the way,
something for a discerning and learned public (which ironically doesnt
really exist here in rome).

He's got a lot of release coming out - you can catch the news on his site
www.finalfrontier.it . Each label has its own page with a news section.

There is a slight renaissance going on here in Rome.

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[Ian Cheshire]

doesn't Alan Oldham play in Europe a bit as well?

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> Fast-forward 5 years and what are Passarani and Oldham doing?

Marco Passarani ha recently created a new label, Pigna Records, along with
Mat101/Jolly Music dudes Francesco De Bellis and Mario Pierro.

Musically i wouldn't describe his musica exactly the way you did, but he has
abandoned the more melancholy melodies of past, with his release as
Passarani 2099.
His dj-sets though are great - elektro, techno, detroit-tech all the way,
something for a discerning and learned public (which ironically doesnt
really exist here in rome).

He's got a lot of release coming out - you can catch the news on his site
www.finalfrontier.it . Each label has its own page with a news section.

There is a slight renaissance going on here in Rome.

fab.



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[Odeluga, Ken]

Alan Oldham probably is the most-booked and most-locally favoured Detroit
person in Tresor and that whole little clubbing 'ghetto' in the same
vicinity of Berlin (perhaps apart from Mills).

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>doesn't Alan Oldham play in Europe a bit as well?
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>Marco Passarani ha recently created a new label, Pigna Records, along with
>Mat101/Jolly Music dudes Francesco De Bellis and Mario Pierro.
>
>Musically i wouldn't describe his musica exactly the way you did,
>but he has
>abandoned the more melancholy melodies of past, with his release as
>Passarani 2099.
>His dj-sets though are great - elektro, techno, detroit-tech all the way,
>something for a discerning and learned public (which ironically doesnt
>really exist here in rome).
>
>He's got a lot of release coming out - you can catch the news on his site
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>There is a slight renaissance going on here in Rome.
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