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got that in the post on monday its a winner for sure, but the song's great in itself On 2/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: haha yeah very true Thomas D. Cox, Jr. schreef: On 2/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on the buttrich tip i'm not a self declared fan but i do very very like his remix for tracey horn the man brings the synth all in hmm, that was pretty nice. id like to hear the rest of it, make sure there's no epic 17 minute long breakdown in it before i would commit to liking it ;) tom
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Let me be the first to say that that Amp Fiddler mix doesn't sound like those others! ;-) Dunno about that Lazy Fat People though, the clips I've heard of his mix aren't long enough to tell. The other tracks sound dodgy (to me) though. Not that impressed by the new batch (renaissance-of-other-artists-than-C2) of Planet Es. Ha! Slagged his mixes, now his label. Good job I'm off to Wales for a long weekend. Don't bother to flame me I won't be here. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 February 2007 12:10 I think we're all just saying there isn't the (wide) variety to his work there sometimes is at the moment. Let's hope for something that negates this argument completely very soon.
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On 2/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that impressed by the new batch (renaissance-of-other-artists-than-C2) of Planet Es. lazy fat people sounded good enough from the clips to order it, though i was already ordering something else. i think the vince watson and the martin buttrich were pretty weak, but the ican and tres demented and LFP are all worth of being on planet e IMO. tom
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Full Clip by Martin Buttrich is very very ace for me! one piece of beautiful crafted music - one of my fave releases of the last year didn't yet hear the Lazy Fat People EP but apart from that, I'm very happy to see Planet E releasing (new/upcoming) other artists let the talents flow Thomas D. Cox, Jr. schreef: On 2/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that impressed by the new batch (renaissance-of-other-artists-than-C2) of Planet Es. lazy fat people sounded good enough from the clips to order it, though i was already ordering something else. i think the vince watson and the martin buttrich were pretty weak, but the ican and tres demented and LFP are all worth of being on planet e IMO. tom
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On 2/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Full Clip by Martin Buttrich is very very ace for me! one piece of beautiful crafted music - one of my fave releases of the last year i bought it based on the clips i heard on his myspace when someone posted about it here. upon receiving it, i realised that it was just not my kind of record at all. im actually pretty stunned at how well received it has been. if i could get any $ for selling it, i would. didn't yet hear the Lazy Fat People EP but apart from that, I'm very happy to see Planet E releasing (new/upcoming) other artists let the talents flow yeah it is definitely a good thing. now he just needs to find someone as good as recloose was! tom
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on the buttrich tip i'm not a self declared fan but i do very very like his remix for tracey horn the man brings the synth all in http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/mp3/Tracey%20Thorn%20-%20Its%20All%20True%20Martin%20Buttrich%20Mix.mp3 Thomas D. Cox, Jr. schreef: On 2/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Full Clip by Martin Buttrich is very very ace for me! one piece of beautiful crafted music - one of my fave releases of the last year i bought it based on the clips i heard on his myspace when someone posted about it here. upon receiving it, i realised that it was just not my kind of record at all. im actually pretty stunned at how well received it has been. if i could get any $ for selling it, i would. didn't yet hear the Lazy Fat People EP but apart from that, I'm very happy to see Planet E releasing (new/upcoming) other artists let the talents flow yeah it is definitely a good thing. now he just needs to find someone as good as recloose was! tom
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On 2/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on the buttrich tip i'm not a self declared fan but i do very very like his remix for tracey horn the man brings the synth all in hmm, that was pretty nice. id like to hear the rest of it, make sure there's no epic 17 minute long breakdown in it before i would commit to liking it ;) tom
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haha yeah very true Thomas D. Cox, Jr. schreef: On 2/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on the buttrich tip i'm not a self declared fan but i do very very like his remix for tracey horn the man brings the synth all in hmm, that was pretty nice. id like to hear the rest of it, make sure there's no epic 17 minute long breakdown in it before i would commit to liking it ;) tom
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OK someone more in the business of doing so is hosting it so I'll pull it from our site. You can use their bandwidth instead! I'm leaving that other clip http://www.thatamazingthing.com/Mixes/DSRexcerpt.mp3 up until someone IDs it though (hint) ;-) -Original Message- From: P.A. Keur BICT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 February 2007 21:52 This does not exacly add much to this thread, but here is the link to the original page it is hosted on: http://www.hitechfunk.com/hitechfunk/2006/08/strictly_carl_c.html
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Things that spin off from this one... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2007 16:38 Can I add a vote for some old mixes as still being pretty amazing? Absolutely - this thread was generally active while I was off on holiday so though I read it I couldn't participate. If I had been able to I'd probably said to those who were mystified by others who expressed the opinion that is recent remixes hadn't been up to his own high standards that while some of them may have been OK (Delia and Gavin) there haven't been any BT Relativitys or Incognito Out Of The Storms for a while. I think Tom queried people hating on C2 for being good? I don't think people are hating on him, most people who said his recent stuff was a bit samey still said they'd bought quite a bit of it so that's not hating and the point is that he's not being too good but not as good as usual. Amongst the goodies Tom and Ken quoted were Angola, Tides, Hot On The Heels Of Love and I don't think anyone (well C2 fans anyway!) would disagree these are hot but I don't think these are what people are picking up on as being recent, I think recent means Xpress2, Goldfrapp, Delia and Gavin, Falling Up, etc. (+ add Laurent Garnier) Of these ones Tom says i just didnt buy because they werent very good, not because they sounded the same but I'd tend to agree with others that there is commonality (repeat a simple piece of the original, after a while chuck in a distinctly electronic synth line and then some extra (probably kind of clubby/conga?!) percussion near the end. I'm not saying they're all bad, I bought some and I'd also extend the description to his own Brainfreeze track - which I really like. I think we're all just saying there isn't the (wide) variety to his work there sometimes is at the moment. Let's hope for something that negates this argument completely very soon. I was listening to last.fm yesterday and Carl's remix of Spacetime Continuum's Kairo came on. Still one of my favorite CC mixes ever! Yikes I don't know this one. Now I'm instantly desperate to hear or maybe get it. So Discogs tells me it's on a remixes EP called rEMIT rECAPS? Looked for a copy on GEMM but no joy, I'm guessing it's rare (on vinyl anyway). The only other thing I could see it on was Designer Music V1. I think that's CD only? Anyone know of anywhere else I might find it? mp3 anyone so I can decide whether to start an intensive and possibly expensive hunt? Maybe I'll get a rEMIT rECAPS CD so I can listen. (talking of Discogs, weirdness yesterday, I could only pull up a Carl Craig page that listed Feel The Fire plus 3 or 4 mixes as being the only thing he'd done. I thought no good going on about it on 313 - it's a community, tell them. Today I only get the normal (MASSIVE) page and can't find that other!) Actually I think I'll follow this with another C2 tracks I don't know post...
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On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (talking of Discogs, weirdness yesterday, I could only pull up a Carl Craig page that listed Feel The Fire plus 3 or 4 mixes as being the only thing he'd done. I thought no good going on about it on 313 - it's a community, tell them. Today I only get the normal (MASSIVE) page and can't find that other!) if you dont log in to discogs, it does that sometimes. its really weird, and there's seemingly no method to the madness, itll just show you a couple releases from certain artists or labels or whatever. tom
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Ben you're THE MAN! Was just searching away on LD (only references to Pacou were tracks of his in mixes) and Discogs (lots of references to him there where it's seems unpopular with a few people!) on BTs advice but was drawing blanks. These are the ones: Chez Damier - Help Myself (Craig Mix)-KMS Reese Project - I Believe(Craig Dub)-Giant/ Warner both on order! Cheers Francis -Original Message- From: Ben Britz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 February 2007 13:22 T.Brookes+A.Soul - City LIfe (Craigs Caya Dub) -RushHour Carl Craig - 4 My Peepz-planet e Carl Craig - Darkness/ Angel-planet e Johnny L - This Time (Craig Mix) - XL Paperclip People - Throw-planet e Quadrant - Infinition(Craig MIx)-planet e Psyche-Andromeda(Craig Mix)-Transmat SpaceTime Continuum - Kairo Craig Remix-Reflective Designer Music Vol 1-problemz-planet e Dave Angel - Take Off (Craig Mix)-Blunted Psyche-Elements-Planet e Remake (eich me son sche)-planet e Carl Craig vs. Johnny Blas - Picadillo 7-ubiquity Paperclip People-Steam - Open Inner City - Goodlife (Craig Mix) - Pias Ultramarine - Hooter(Craig Rmx)-Real Soon Carl Craig - Technology-planet e Carl Craig-Climax(reworked)-Open Chez Damier - Help Myself (Craig Mix)-KMS 69-rushed-planet e/ R+S Reese Project - I Believe(Craig Dub)-Giant/ Warner BFC-Static Friendly-Fragile Designer Music Vol. 1 - Good Girls-planet e UFO - The Planet Plan (Craig Mix) - talkin loud Paperclip People - Floor - planet e Designer Music Vol 1 - Latin Chic behind door#1-planet e Innerzone Orchestra - nitwit-planet e Paperclip People - Paperclip Man- Open 69 - Extraterrestial Raggabeats - planet e Innerzone Orchestra-Bug In the Bassbin - planet e Carl Craig - No more Words - retroactive BFC - Sleep - beechwood
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On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are the ones: Chez Damier - Help Myself (Craig Mix)-KMS Reese Project - I Believe(Craig Dub)-Giant/ Warner yeah i just got that chez damier in detroit last year on the fresh repress style, one of carl's great mixes for sure. i dont have that reese project, not sure if ive even see that one in particular when digging around. ill have to keep an eye out tom
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For Adrian I've stuck it on our site for a little bit. So might as well let you all know in case anyone else wants to grab too. Check that Reese Proj Tom - I must have listened to it on holiday 10 times a day for a few days after I first heard it on the mix. Just thought - wait a minute what if that SpaceTime Continuum - Kairo I was asking about is on there too - checked Ben's tracklist and it is! Off to check check check. http://www.thatamazingthing.com/Mixes/Pacou_-_CarlCraigWorks.mp3 -Original Message- From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 February 2007 13:39 jeepers, got a link to the mix? PS. No one's yet I.D.ed that Isaac-Hayes-I-Can't-Turn-Around-based-house-track-that-isn't-J.M.Silk-or-Farley-Jackmaster that I put a snippet of up there a few months back (and got only funny messages off Alex). Come on it was played on DSR by Darryl Wynn - that's 313! http://www.thatamazingthing.com/Mixes/DSRexcerpt.mp3
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Sorry Aidan I meant Aidan not Adrian ;-)
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This does not exacly add much to this thread, but here is the link to the original page it is hosted on: http://www.hitechfunk.com/hitechfunk/2006/08/strictly_carl_c.html On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Aidan I meant Aidan not Adrian ;-)
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Thank you so much!!! I've been interested in this mix for about 4 months but could never find a link... ~David On 2/14/07, P.A. Keur BICT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This does not exacly add much to this thread, but here is the link to the original page it is hosted on: http://www.hitechfunk.com/hitechfunk/2006/08/strictly_carl_c.html On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Aidan I meant Aidan not Adrian ;-)
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no probs, everyone does that. at least you didn't call me aids. thanks for the mix! On 14/02/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Aidan I meant Aidan not Adrian ;-)
FW: (313) Carl Craig remix of X-Press 2's 'Kill 100'
Yes that is sounding hot -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 September 2006 21:40 c2 sounds alright. not as good as the jazzanova rmx of Outline though! ill be hunting that joint down as soon as it comes in..
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-- Forwarded Message From: Ben Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 00:34:28 +0100 To: JSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig remix of X-Press 2's 'Kill 100' I got this a few days ago and I am pleased to say it sounds awesome on a big speakers at home and headphones. Big rig? Not yet. Looking forward though. Good track in my opinion. And really liking 'Andy stott - merciless album' Especially tracks entitled 'Edyocat' and 'come to me'. On 29/9/06 12:09 am, JSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's a fairly decent clip on dancetracks.. in answer to yr question, if there's one man who knows how to make something sound good on a big rig... On 9/28/06, Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next up from the Maestro. Only heard a clip today, but it's sounding good to my ears. Anyone heard it on a proper rig yet? Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/457 - Release Date: 26/09/2006 -- End of Forwarded Message
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Had to pass on this as the vocal spoiled it for me - they should have included an instrumental of his mix. -Original Message- From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 September 2006 23:40 Next up from the Maestro. Only heard a clip today, but it's sounding good to my ears. Anyone heard it on a proper rig yet?
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-Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 September 2006 10:55 Had to pass on this for the same reason (though I got sent a CD of it). Also it just sounds like a genero-carl craig remix to my ears. Yes I thought it was a bit one of his remixes-by-numbers too - guess I'd still have got it without the singing though ;-) The C2 remix I'm waiting with baited breath for is that Japanese Syncro System remix that's about to land (if the US pressing plants stay open for 5 minutes :) ). The clips of that sound awesome. Hmm..didn't think that sounded that good either! - think I like the beats mix better. Will check it again. In fact that could be one that sounds good a big rig! OK not all records sound good on a big rig and of those that do some improve more than others - but at the end of the day I guess how much that means you should reconsider buying a record depends on how often you get to play on a big rig. I don't even get to hear one THAT often - though things are looking up at the moment with that warehouse sessions thing hopefully having impressive sound? - it better or it'll be a let down with all those fab names coming up. I'll also be visiting Berlin again soon where the majority of rigs seem to knock the ones here into touch. Solid bassline pumpin' from that big rig in Berghain...ah yeah. I'm sure both above records will be sounding good in there! Had to pass on this as the vocal spoiled it for me - they should have included an instrumental of his mix.
FW: (313) carl craig lp
Completely Re-mastered and Re-worked with additional edits Lets hope they're not like the edits on Secret Tapes
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Simon Kong wrote: good djs dj for the people. you know the ones they are there to entertain? Techno used to have some balls. People used to stand in front of sound systems out of fear and admiration of what the dj was capable of doing. snip Shouldn't a djs make your hair stand on end?? .simon Its definitely welcome when a DJ does make my hair stand on end, or make me feel a sense of awe at the kinds of things sound is capable of. I'm not normally a speaker-whore, but there have been DJs who have led me to all manner of strange and wonderful states while my face has been buried in some massive amp. It doesn't happen often, which is probably a good-ish thing since otherwise it would be commonplace and would lose that element of wonder or surprise. Plus, my hearing would probably be much worse for the wear. ;)
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Oh, I forgot to say about this: (what I wrote) good djs dj for the people. you know the ones they are there to entertain? and then simon kong wrote: Techno used to have some balls. People used to stand in front of sound systems out of fear and admiration of what the dj was capable of doing. snip Shouldn't a djs make your hair stand on end?? I forgot to say that maybe you mis-understood my comment a little. I was kinda trying to say, that if I'm going to pay a load of money to get into a club, which has in turn paid that dj a load of money, I want to be entertained. and, well, if its me that needs entertaining, I wanna hear them playing something crazy, something that will make my hair stand on end. so, I agree basically. oh yeah, my mate was playing the new frantic flowers jamal moss over some mad beats from an ibadan record on saturday. and that sounded crazy! and my hair stood on end! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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all words well spoken! kong for king Nomorewords.net http://nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands phn +31-64-499-2027 fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: Simon Kong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:55 PM Subject: Re: FW: (313) Carl Craig ' good djs dj for the people. you know the ones they are there to entertain? Techno used to have some balls. People used to stand in front of sound systems out of fear and admiration of what the dj was capable of doing. We have gone soft, the audience are in control. They know all the tricks and are no longer impressed by the pony you show. / At least there is some controversy surrounding Carl. Where are the risky artist? What I see is alot of very consumable photo friendly dj's with great portfolios. I'm not after a revolution, I just want some content. Some substance that will evoke some response from my co modified life. / These kinds of arguments, always de-volove into standard practice models for assessing popular music. Techno music in its origins was about futurism. Using new technology to to express new ideas and explore new paradigms. I don't wish to establish some sort of elitism. However I think there is inherent value in asserting some form of conciousness with the music. I can let my hair down every night of the week to any number of djs. Shouldn't a djs make your hair stand on end?? .simon
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all words well spoken! kong for king If you don't say it ' it doesn't happen. I've got more you can read, but it starts to sound like one man with a big trumpet. Also .. I thought I should point out that the last time Carl Craig played in NZ . was 1998. Between then and now the I can count the number of Techno Artists who have come to perform here on one hand. Often they play in the main centers. I don't currnely live in the main center. My physical connection to the muisc, is limited and sparse. So I have alot more time to think about it, than dance to it. And to provide more perspective' I have been siting in a Insurance Finance conference for three days, surfing a high speed wireless connection for free. Currently I am in control about about NZ$60'000 worth of Audio viusal equipment. My primary activity for the day is to turn the lectern microphone up and down! (Challenging!!!) Boredom / unsated passion + 313 = diatribe http://www.kongisking.net/index.shtml
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one of the great revolutions that occurred with the rise of dj based dance music was the removal of the performer/audience dichotomy. the dancers on the dancefloor became the entertainment. the action was happening on the dancefloor not on the stage. power to the people! no more standing around all staring at a stage with some egotistical jerk masturbating his guitar. 'promised land' and 'sueno latino' sounded just as good and just the same no matter who played them. you didn't have to be in chicago or have farley jackmaster funk djing, to have a great night out dancing to house music. but that didn't really last long - now everybody just faces the dj watching them change records and won't go out unless it's a name dj. back to the boring old days of rock n roll again. james www.jbucknell.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ds.net To 16/03/05 12:53 PM 313 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: FW: (313) Carl Craig ' all words well spoken! kong for king Nomorewords.net http://nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands phn +31-64-499-2027 fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: Simon Kong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:55 PM Subject: Re: FW: (313) Carl Craig ' good djs dj for the people. you know the ones they are there to entertain? Techno used to have some balls. People used to stand in front of sound systems out of fear and admiration of what the dj was capable of doing. We have gone soft, the audience are in control. They know all the tricks and are no longer impressed by the pony you show. / At least there is some controversy surrounding Carl. Where are the risky artist? What I see is alot of very consumable photo friendly dj's with great portfolios. I'm not after a revolution, I just want some content. Some substance that will evoke some response from my co modified life. / These kinds of arguments, always de-volove into standard practice models for assessing popular music. Techno music in its origins was about futurism. Using new technology to to express new ideas and explore new paradigms. I don't wish to establish some sort of elitism. However I think there is inherent value in asserting some form of conciousness with the music. I can let my hair down every night of the week to any number of djs. Shouldn't a djs make your hair stand on end?? .simon ForwardSourceID:NT0001B7DA
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you didn't have to be in chicago or have farley jackmaster funk djing, to have a great night out dancing to house music. Maybe not but (back then especially) it really REALLY helped. :) Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems ** I am exactly what I wanted to become since I was 5 years old. Since 5 year olds are not noted for mature judgement and sometimes aspire to piracy or gunfighting, this is not necessarily a sign of success. **
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No one really seems to want to talk about him
Well that didn't last! Lots of posts on this - over viewing them what seems
to come out is that while some people are praising him:
Carl can play anything and basically will, even sometimes pushing well past
where the crowd will go. I'm not always thrilled with his playing but it's
always interesting.
This is a man who plays Radiohead and Beyonce... kinda defies categories.
and others who've seen him the odd time aren't thrilled, what many are
picking up on is his inconsistency.
I'd back this up 100% - until very recently I would have put him among my
favourite DJs having seen him play 4 times and liked it each time, the 2
most enjoyable being in 1999 and 2000 when he played the Electric Chair here
in Manchester, first time playing all sorts of stuff, allaying the fears of
disco heads down there about hearing a techno DJ, then the second time
slaying them when their guard was down with loads of ace electronic
business. I didn't see him again until 2003 at Superconductor when he
played some good techno plus Beyonce which is all good as far as I'm
concerned! I even went to Fabric last year to see him and enjoyed that too,
he was playing all the remixes he had knocking around then and some of the
stuff you might expect to hear in a fairly commercial club but it was OK (I
want to say I enjoyed Fabric too as it took a bit of a kicking in some
recent posts, OK it's about the money and not all who go there are dedicated
to the finer points of club culture but it's impressive, clean and has good
sound, maybe as someone said the key is to go with friends).
A month ago I went to Superconductor again to see C2 and I've got to say I
was very disappointed. He played a mixture of some very average music along
with Jaguar, Strings etc. and didn't do it well. Nothing was way off, just
nothing was that good, not the mixing, the tunes or the order in which they
were played. I couldn't believe it was the same DJ I'd seen before and felt
embarrassed as I'd brought a friend (house and disco head) and told him how
good he'd be - my friend thought he was poor. I'd heard several people say
they'd seen him and he was rubbish before but I thought they were just
knocking someone who was big ('cos people do that y'know!) but I guess he
must just be inconsistent to the point where the word is an understatement!
Re: FW: (313) Carl Craig ' ( Fabric)
I'd heard several people say
they'd seen him and he was rubbish before but I thought they were just
knocking someone who was big ('cos people do that y'know!) but I guess he
must just be inconsistent to the point where the word is an understatement!
Thanks all for the feedback '
I asked cause this was the vibe I was feeling about Carl.
However, I understand that he is an Artist foremost and DJ last.
My thoughts are towards the fact, that Carl Dj's for himself not for the
people. He is an artist. Dj's are a commodity.
My initial attraction to dance music, was the liberation from the musical
conventions that I experienced in clubs and band gigs. The music was wild
unfamiliar and unpredictable.
This changed as the rave scene established itself, and a status quo began
to form amongst the popular djs. Effectively common denominators started
to govern the output of djs and events.
Around this point I moved cities, and discovered Techno in an urban form and
was rapidly propelled back into unfamiliar and unpredictable sounds. Suitable
I was delighted.
The interesting fact that I found though, was that the conceptual approach of
these 'techno djs' was about the destruction of the conventions. Connected
with a real desire to explore the abstract and edge of reason.
These concepts have been firmly rejected by popular dance music.
Dance floors of loaded people ' refuse to be challenged. They want to be
whipped, teased and fondled. Not rudely interrupted, lead astray and quietly
reminded of their insignificance against contrast and beauty.
Perhaps in an in-direct manner, and in the true form of an Artist, Carl is
being honest. He is performing in any manner that he sees fit.
And while this yields the greatest potential, unmatched by convention. It
also can revel home normal and human the whole process of being a dj is.
The pensive sensation I have about seeing Carl play far exceeds any emotion
I have had about other djs.
His actions, his music, have always made me keenly aware of the music.
My concerns, and desires for him to perform a fantastic set are all selfish.
Right now I am thanking Carl for making me articulate thoughts that I have had
for years about dj's and dance floors.
I will be turning up to see Carl play because he is a great musician and a
unique
individual. He makes djs look good! When really we are mostly a bunch of
disc jockeys.
There is next to know one who is actually giving dance music and dj'ing
real intellectual, conceptual, and spiritual merit today.
With out these things, its all gone pop!
We all place to many conditions on music and dj's. Carl is ignoring all of
this
and establishing his own conditions. He doesn't let you down. You let
yourself
down by not listening to his art.
(don't quote me i'm thinking out loud)
Feedback and photo's from the Thursday gig over the weekend !!
.simon
Re: FW: (313) Carl Craig ' ( Fabric)
My thoughts are towards the fact, that Carl Dj's for himself not for the people. He is an artist. Dj's are a commodity. good djs dj for the people. you know the ones they are there to entertain? the ones that have paid a fee to get in somewhere to enjoy themselves and let their hair down. however, I love carl craig. and I think I love you too mr king kong for laying down your thoughts so honestly for us all to read. make sure you send that report! will be interesting to see what you think. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: FW: (313) Carl Craig ' ( Fabric)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good djs dj for the people. the art djing lies therein imo, that you keep the party jumping while only playing what you like yourself
Re: FW: (313) Carl Craig ' ( Fabric)
the art djing lies therein imo, that you keep the party jumping while only playing what you like yourself Hit_nail_head_right_on_armin _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: FW: (313) Carl Craig ' ( Fabric)
aw him live with the Detroit experiment at the TDK fest last year. F00kin tremendous. The old geez with the trumpet really knew how to blow a horn ;) Marcus Belgrave!! What a guy : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: FW: (313) Carl Craig '
good djs dj for the people. you know the ones they are there to entertain? Techno used to have some balls. People used to stand in front of sound systems out of fear and admiration of what the dj was capable of doing. We have gone soft, the audience are in control. They know all the tricks and are no longer impressed by the pony you show. / At least there is some controversy surrounding Carl. Where are the risky artist? What I see is alot of very consumable photo friendly dj's with great portfolios. I'm not after a revolution, I just want some content. Some substance that will evoke some response from my co modified life. / These kinds of arguments, always de-volove into standard practice models for assessing popular music. Techno music in its origins was about futurism. Using new technology to to express new ideas and explore new paradigms. I don't wish to establish some sort of elitism. However I think there is inherent value in asserting some form of conciousness with the music. I can let my hair down every night of the week to any number of djs. Shouldn't a djs make your hair stand on end?? .simon
