Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
dave huismans ole! Kowalsky schreef: http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995
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On 23 Apr 2008, at 14:53, Kowalsky wrote: http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995 Nice, and I'm not normally a big dubstep fan (I don't dislike it, more I prefer other styles). robin...
Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
I djed with him a few months back.. he was doing 2562 / a made up sound djing set which encompassed house, techno, bits of dubstep and all manner of thingsall nicely mixed up... and a really nice guy as well... p robin wrote: On 23 Apr 2008, at 14:53, Kowalsky wrote: http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995 Nice, and I'm not normally a big dubstep fan (I don't dislike it, more I prefer other styles). robin...
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On 23 Apr 2008, at 15:44, Paul wrote: I djed with him a few months back.. he was doing 2562 / a made up sound djing set which encompassed house, techno, bits of dubstep and all manner of thingsall nicely mixed up... and a really nice guy as well... Interesting. I'd like to hear a mix like that. robin...
RE: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
Aye, some dubstep seems to be going 4/4. See also releases on Hessle Audio. Here's a mix I've been enjoying recently . . http://www.djdowee.com/dreamvol1/dowee-dreammix-march2008.mp3 1. likhan - uwill 2. pinch - 136 trek 3. likhan - terre 4. pangaea - nest 5. untold - test signal 6. appleblim & peverelist - circling 7. scuba - outmost 8. peverelist - the grind 9. scuba - inmost 10. scuba - beta 11. peverelist - erstwhile rhythm (forsaken remix) 12. 2562 - circulate 13. benny ill vs. hatcha - poison 14. a made up sound - sleepwalk 15. 2562 - kameleon 16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix) 17. 2562 - channel two 18. ramadanman - carla 19. kode 9 vs. badawi - den of drumz 20. headhunter - locus lotus Rav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2008 15:00 To: [313] Cc: Kowalsky Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread dave huismans ole! Kowalsky schreef: > http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995 > > To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
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i still cant be less impressed with dubstep. it annoys me to no end how much people are on its jock. tom On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Mann, Ravinder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aye, some dubstep seems to be going 4/4. See also releases on Hessle > Audio. Here's a mix I've been enjoying recently . . > > http://www.djdowee.com/dreamvol1/dowee-dreammix-march2008.mp3 > > 1. likhan - uwill > 2. pinch - 136 trek > 3. likhan - terre > 4. pangaea - nest > 5. untold - test signal > 6. appleblim & peverelist - circling > 7. scuba - outmost > 8. peverelist - the grind > 9. scuba - inmost > 10. scuba - beta > 11. peverelist - erstwhile rhythm (forsaken remix) > 12. 2562 - circulate > 13. benny ill vs. hatcha - poison > 14. a made up sound - sleepwalk > 15. 2562 - kameleon > 16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix) > 17. 2562 - channel two > 18. ramadanman - carla > 19. kode 9 vs. badawi - den of drumz > 20. headhunter - locus lotus > > Rav > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 23 April 2008 15:00 > To: [313] > Cc: Kowalsky > Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread > > > dave huismans ole! > > Kowalsky schreef: > > http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995 > > > > > > > To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to > http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm >
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Weren't you raving about the last Burial album a few months back? Wouldn't people call that dubstep?. Not that it matters, I think. When it comes to 'dubstep' I do not like it more or less than any other music - I just like good music. When you say you don't like dubstep, do you have a particular sound or artist in mind? Or do you literally not think much of a whole tranche of music much of which you won't have heard? ;) Personally, I can't get enough of Elemental & 3D - Blob at the moment. Love it. N > i still cant be less impressed with dubstep. it annoys me to no end > how much people are on its jock. > > tom > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Mann, Ravinder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Aye, some dubstep seems to be going 4/4. See also releases on Hessle >> Audio. Here's a mix I've been enjoying recently . . >> >> http://www.djdowee.com/dreamvol1/dowee-dreammix-march2008.mp3 >> >> 1. likhan - uwill >> 2. pinch - 136 trek >> 3. likhan - terre >> 4. pangaea - nest >> 5. untold - test signal >> 6. appleblim & peverelist - circling >> 7. scuba - outmost >> 8. peverelist - the grind >> 9. scuba - inmost >> 10. scuba - beta >> 11. peverelist - erstwhile rhythm (forsaken remix) >> 12. 2562 - circulate >> 13. benny ill vs. hatcha - poison >> 14. a made up sound - sleepwalk >> 15. 2562 - kameleon >> 16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix) >> 17. 2562 - channel two >> 18. ramadanman - carla >> 19. kode 9 vs. badawi - den of drumz >> 20. headhunter - locus lotus >> >> Rav >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 23 April 2008 15:00 >> To: [313] >> Cc: Kowalsky >> Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread >> >> >> dave huismans ole! >> >> Kowalsky schreef: >> > http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995 >> > >> > >> >> >> To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to >> http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm >> >
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Burial isn't really dubstep - it's too wet and soft Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Nik Stoltzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2008 16:19 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread Weren't you raving about the last Burial album a few months back? Wouldn't people call that dubstep?. Not that it matters, I think. When it comes to 'dubstep' I do not like it more or less than any other music - I just like good music. When you say you don't like dubstep, do you have a particular sound or artist in mind? Or do you literally not think much of a whole tranche of music much of which you won't have heard? ;) Personally, I can't get enough of Elemental & 3D - Blob at the moment. Love it. N > i still cant be less impressed with dubstep. it annoys me to no end > how much people are on its jock. > > tom > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Mann, Ravinder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Aye, some dubstep seems to be going 4/4. See also releases on Hessle >> Audio. Here's a mix I've been enjoying recently . . >> >> http://www.djdowee.com/dreamvol1/dowee-dreammix-march2008.mp3 >> >> 1. likhan - uwill >> 2. pinch - 136 trek >> 3. likhan - terre >> 4. pangaea - nest >> 5. untold - test signal >> 6. appleblim & peverelist - circling 7. scuba - outmost 8. >> peverelist - the grind 9. scuba - inmost 10. scuba - beta 11. >> peverelist - erstwhile rhythm (forsaken remix) 12. 2562 - circulate >> 13. benny ill vs. hatcha - poison 14. a made up sound - sleepwalk >> 15. 2562 - kameleon 16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix) 17. >> 2562 - channel two 18. ramadanman - carla 19. kode 9 vs. badawi - >> den of drumz 20. headhunter - locus lotus >> >> Rav >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 23 April 2008 15:00 >> To: [313] >> Cc: Kowalsky >> Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread >> >> >> dave huismans ole! >> >> Kowalsky schreef: >> > http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995 >> > >> > >> >> >> To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go >> to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm >> > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
RE: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
Silly me! So what defines dubstep? Hard and edgy? Firm and moist? Turgid? > Burial isn't really dubstep - it's too wet and soft > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: Nik Stoltzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 23 April 2008 16:19 > To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread > > Weren't you raving about the last Burial album a few months back? > Wouldn't people call that dubstep?. Not that it matters, I think. > > When it comes to 'dubstep' I do not like it more or less than any other > music - I just like good music. When you say you don't like dubstep, do > you have a particular sound or artist in mind? Or do you literally not > think much of a whole tranche of music much of which you won't have > heard? ;) > > Personally, I can't get enough of Elemental & 3D - Blob at the moment. > Love it. > > N > > > >> i still cant be less impressed with dubstep. it annoys me to no end >> how much people are on its jock. >> >> tom >> >> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Mann, Ravinder > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Aye, some dubstep seems to be going 4/4. See also releases on Hessle > >>> Audio. Here's a mix I've been enjoying recently . . >>> >>> http://www.djdowee.com/dreamvol1/dowee-dreammix-march2008.mp3 >>> >>> 1. likhan - uwill >>> 2. pinch - 136 trek >>> 3. likhan - terre >>> 4. pangaea - nest >>> 5. untold - test signal >>> 6. appleblim & peverelist - circling 7. scuba - outmost 8. >>> peverelist - the grind 9. scuba - inmost 10. scuba - beta 11. >>> peverelist - erstwhile rhythm (forsaken remix) 12. 2562 - circulate > >>> 13. benny ill vs. hatcha - poison 14. a made up sound - sleepwalk >>> 15. 2562 - kameleon 16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix) 17. >>> 2562 - channel two 18. ramadanman - carla 19. kode 9 vs. badawi - >>> den of drumz 20. headhunter - locus lotus >>> >>> Rav >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: 23 April 2008 15:00 >>> To: [313] >>> Cc: Kowalsky >>> Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread >>> >>> >>> dave huismans ole! >>> >>> Kowalsky schreef: >>> > http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995 >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go >>> to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm >>> >> > > > # > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily > represent > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This > email > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of > the > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this > email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > > Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is > at 124 Horseferry > Road, London, SW1P 2TX . > > 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales > has its registered > office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. > > VAT no: GB 626475817 > > # >
Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Nik Stoltzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Weren't you raving about the last Burial album a few months back? Wouldn't > people call that > dubstep?. Not that it matters, I think. nah, that is 2-step. it really has no connection in beat patterns, sound pallette, or feel to anything in the dubstep genre, it shares many of those things with 2-step records though. > When it comes to 'dubstep' I do not like it more or less than any other > music - I just like good > music. When you say you don't like dubstep, do you have a particular sound > or artist in mind? Or > do you literally not think much of a whole tranche of music much of which > you won't have heard? ;) i like exactly none of it. most of it is either too angry, too boring, or just ridiculous sounding. i guess i dont mind the original "blood on my hands" by shackleton but its not good enough that i went out and bought it. and that is only one track! tom
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I dunno - phat basslines for sure, slo-mo beats too - like a junglist trying to wade through treacle Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Nik Stoltzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2008 16:22 To: Robert Taylor Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread Silly me! So what defines dubstep? Hard and edgy? Firm and moist? Turgid? > Burial isn't really dubstep - it's too wet and soft > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: Nik Stoltzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 23 April 2008 16:19 > To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread > > Weren't you raving about the last Burial album a few months back? > Wouldn't people call that dubstep?. Not that it matters, I think. > > When it comes to 'dubstep' I do not like it more or less than any > other music - I just like good music. When you say you don't like > dubstep, do you have a particular sound or artist in mind? Or do you > literally not think much of a whole tranche of music much of which you > won't have heard? ;) > > Personally, I can't get enough of Elemental & 3D - Blob at the moment. > Love it. > > N > > > >> i still cant be less impressed with dubstep. it annoys me to no end >> how much people are on its jock. >> >> tom >> >> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Mann, Ravinder > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Aye, some dubstep seems to be going 4/4. See also releases on Hessle > >>> Audio. Here's a mix I've been enjoying recently . . >>> >>> http://www.djdowee.com/dreamvol1/dowee-dreammix-march2008.mp3 >>> >>> 1. likhan - uwill >>> 2. pinch - 136 trek >>> 3. likhan - terre >>> 4. pangaea - nest >>> 5. untold - test signal >>> 6. appleblim & peverelist - circling 7. scuba - outmost 8. >>> peverelist - the grind 9. scuba - inmost 10. scuba - beta 11. >>> peverelist - erstwhile rhythm (forsaken remix) 12. 2562 - circulate > >>> 13. benny ill vs. hatcha - poison 14. a made up sound - sleepwalk >>> 15. 2562 - kameleon 16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix) 17. >>> 2562 - channel two 18. ramadanman - carla 19. kode 9 vs. badawi - >>> den of drumz 20. headhunter - locus lotus >>> >>> Rav >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: 23 April 2008 15:00 >>> To: [313] >>> Cc: Kowalsky >>> Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread >>> >>> >>> dave huismans ole! >>> >>> Kowalsky schreef: >>> > http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995 >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go >>> to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm >>> >> > > > ## > ### > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation > unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are > confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > > Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English > law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . > > 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and > Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. > > VAT no: GB 626475817 > > ## > ### > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
RE: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
next dj kicks mix is going to be burial 'We hear whisperings from the studio that he may treat his dearest dubstep, techno and even r'n'b tracks with his unique production style before mixing them with exclusive material and... well watch this space' -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2008 16:04 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread i still cant be less impressed with dubstep. it annoys me to no end how much people are on its jock. tom On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Mann, Ravinder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aye, some dubstep seems to be going 4/4. See also releases on Hessle > Audio. Here's a mix I've been enjoying recently . . > > http://www.djdowee.com/dreamvol1/dowee-dreammix-march2008.mp3 > > 1. likhan - uwill > 2. pinch - 136 trek > 3. likhan - terre > 4. pangaea - nest > 5. untold - test signal > 6. appleblim & peverelist - circling > 7. scuba - outmost > 8. peverelist - the grind > 9. scuba - inmost > 10. scuba - beta > 11. peverelist - erstwhile rhythm (forsaken remix) > 12. 2562 - circulate > 13. benny ill vs. hatcha - poison > 14. a made up sound - sleepwalk > 15. 2562 - kameleon > 16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix) > 17. 2562 - channel two > 18. ramadanman - carla > 19. kode 9 vs. badawi - den of drumz > 20. headhunter - locus lotus > > Rav > > > -Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 23 April 2008 15:00 > To: [313] > Cc: Kowalsky > Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread > > > dave huismans ole! > > Kowalsky schreef: > > http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995 > > > > > > > To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm > To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
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On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Mann, Ravinder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > next dj kicks mix is going to be burial > > 'We hear whisperings from the studio that he may treat his dearest > dubstep, techno and even r'n'b tracks with his unique production style > before mixing them with exclusive material and... well watch this space' yeah i saw that the other day, should be very interesting. tom
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I would suspect that once the likes of the Wire and Boomkat-deriven shops stop enthusing over it so wildly and let it run its course, the genre might actually become interesting, because it doesn't really deserve the fawning it receives right now. That's not to say there's nothing good in the genre, but the slavish drivel that is written about it by some people about it just puts me off. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2008 16:25 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Nik Stoltzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Weren't you raving about the last Burial album a few months back? Wouldn't > people call that > dubstep?. Not that it matters, I think. nah, that is 2-step. it really has no connection in beat patterns, sound pallette, or feel to anything in the dubstep genre, it shares many of those things with 2-step records though. > When it comes to 'dubstep' I do not like it more or less than any other > music - I just like good > music. When you say you don't like dubstep, do you have a particular sound > or artist in mind? Or > do you literally not think much of a whole tranche of music much of which > you won't have heard? ;) i like exactly none of it. most of it is either too angry, too boring, or just ridiculous sounding. i guess i dont mind the original "blood on my hands" by shackleton but its not good enough that i went out and bought it. and that is only one track! tom For all the latest news and comment visit www.telegraph.co.uk. This message, its contents and any attachments to it are private, confidential and may be the subject of legal privilege. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination of the whole or part of this message (without our prior written consent) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. Incoming and outgoing telephone calls to our offices may be monitored or recorded for training and quality control purposes and for confirming orders and information. Telegraph Media Group Limited is a limited liability company registered in England and Wales (company number 451593). Our registered office address is: 111 Buckingham Palace Road, London, SW1W 0DT.
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I agree about boomkat. Their reviews are awful. Everything is wonderful, essential. Everything is limited. They love to hype over unknown artists releases and speculate it's an aphex twin release if it has the word "window" on the title. Ridiculous. On 23/04/2008, at 12:31, Toby Frith wrote: I would suspect that once the likes of the Wire and Boomkat-deriven shops stop enthusing over it so wildly and let it run its course, the genre might actually become interesting, because it doesn't really deserve the fawning it receives right now. That's not to say there's nothing good in the genre, but the slavish drivel that is written about it by some people about it just puts me off. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2008 16:25 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Nik Stoltzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Weren't you raving about the last Burial album a few months back? Wouldn't people call that dubstep?. Not that it matters, I think. nah, that is 2-step. it really has no connection in beat patterns, sound pallette, or feel to anything in the dubstep genre, it shares many of those things with 2-step records though. When it comes to 'dubstep' I do not like it more or less than any other music - I just like good music. When you say you don't like dubstep, do you have a particular sound or artist in mind? Or do you literally not think much of a whole tranche of music much of which you won't have heard? ;) i like exactly none of it. most of it is either too angry, too boring, or just ridiculous sounding. i guess i dont mind the original "blood on my hands" by shackleton but its not good enough that i went out and bought it. and that is only one track! tom For all the latest news and comment visit www.telegraph.co.uk. This message, its contents and any attachments to it are private, confidential and may be the subject of legal privilege. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination of the whole or part of this message (without our prior written consent) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. Incoming and outgoing telephone calls to our offices may be monitored or recorded for training and quality control purposes and for confirming orders and information. Telegraph Media Group Limited is a limited liability company registered in England and Wales (company number 451593). Our registered office address is: 111 Buckingham Palace Road, London, SW1W 0DT.
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On 23 Apr 2008, at 17:16, Kowalsky wrote: I agree about boomkat. Their reviews are awful. Everything is wonderful, essential. Everything is limited. They love to hype over unknown artists releases and speculate it's an aphex twin release if it has the word "window" on the title. Ridiculous. Out of interest, what do you expect them to say? This release is sh1t ;) m
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They do have a spattering of 'this record stinks' reviews. This makes them look even dumber, in my book! -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:19 PM To: [313] Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread On 23 Apr 2008, at 17:16, Kowalsky wrote: > I agree about boomkat. Their reviews are awful. Everything is > wonderful, essential. Everything is limited. They love to hype over > unknown artists releases and speculate it's an aphex twin release if > it has the word "window" on the title. Ridiculous. Out of interest, what do you expect them to say? This release is sh1t ;) m
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You mean what i expect a record store to say? I expect they do what they do, they wanna sell records and make the hype lovers believe they're really into something. But that's annoying. I wouldn't do like that if i had a record shop. Guess i would be a bad record seller. :) On 23/04/2008, at 13:18, Martin Dust wrote: On 23 Apr 2008, at 17:16, Kowalsky wrote: I agree about boomkat. Their reviews are awful. Everything is wonderful, essential. Everything is limited. They love to hype over unknown artists releases and speculate it's an aphex twin release if it has the word "window" on the title. Ridiculous. Out of interest, what do you expect them to say? This release is sh1t ;) m
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Dubstep is the new psytrance? I mean: ??? On 23/04/2008, at 14:59, J.C. wrote: It's the new Psytrance, remember. Even with that as the case though, there have been SOME tracks that have moved me. MOST though. ;) On 23 April 2008, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: i still cant be less impressed with dubstep. it annoys me to no end how much people are on its jock. tom -- San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice Award Winner: Best Radio DJ: http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php AIM: jckzsu (or kzsudj during my show.) "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.)
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wha??? as a former psytrance dj who can still appreciate it to some extent (shutup tom;) i fail to see any comparison at all between the two, except perhaps that you really need to be on massive quantities of drugs to "get" either one. i hate dubstep though. i have a soft nostalgic spot in my heart for psytrance, but god damn is it way too fast for me now, and it has gotten much worse than it used to be, in general. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:59 PM, J.C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's the new Psytrance, remember. > > Even with that as the case though, there have been SOME tracks that have > moved me. MOST though. ;) > > > > On 23 April 2008, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: > > > > i still cant be less impressed with dubstep. it annoys me to no end > > how much people are on its jock. > > > > tom > > > > > > > -- > San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice Award Winner: Best Radio DJ: > http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php > AIM: jckzsu (or kzsudj during my show.) > > "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of > KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.) > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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Still disagree. The dubstep public has got nothing to do with the psytrance public. The psytrance public is the average public that receives information only thru mainstream "channels". The public is that guy who wants to go to a crazy rave, to a crowded place with frenetic music going on. At least here, in Brasil, and, as far as i know, in Europe and US too. On 23/04/2008, at 15:56, J.C. wrote: Referring to the fan base when I put that out there. :) Must not be as obvious in some communities as it is on the west coast. On 23 April 2008, Kowalsky wrote: Dubstep is the new psytrance? I mean: ??? On 23/04/2008, at 14:59, J.C. wrote: It's the new Psytrance, remember. -- San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice Award Winner: Best Radio DJ: http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php AIM: jckzsu (or kzsudj during my show.) "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.)
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Brasil must be a very interesting place if the average public listens to psytrance and psytrance is considered mainstream. Granted, psytrance has changed a lot since 99-2001 when i was into it, but i still can't imagine it being mainstream. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Still disagree. The dubstep public has got nothing to do with the psytrance > public. The psytrance public is the average public that receives information > only thru mainstream "channels". The public is that guy who wants to go to a > crazy rave, to a crowded place with frenetic music going on. > At least here, in Brasil, and, as far as i know, in Europe and US too. > > > > On 23/04/2008, at 15:56, J.C. wrote: > > > > Referring to the fan base when I put that out there. :) > > > > Must not be as obvious in some communities as it is on the west coast. > > > > On 23 April 2008, Kowalsky wrote: > > > > > > > Dubstep is the new psytrance? I mean: ??? > > > > > > On 23/04/2008, at 14:59, J.C. wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It's the new Psytrance, remember. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice Award Winner: Best Radio DJ: > > http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php > > AIM: jckzsu (or kzsudj during my show.) > > > > "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of > > KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.) > > > > > > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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Interesting. They have a totally different crowd here in the UK. > From: J.C. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 23 April 2008 19:57 > > Referring to the fan base when I put that out there. :) > > Must not be as obvious in some communities as it is on the west coast. > > On 23 April 2008, Kowalsky wrote: > > > Dubstep is the new psytrance? I mean: ???
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this doesn't sound anything at all like the dubstep that i've heard. sounds like techno to me. and i like it. 2008/4/23 Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995 > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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Psytrance raves, here, are megaevents attended by the average high school bunch. Kw On 23/04/2008, at 16:34, Frank Glazer wrote: Brasil must be a very interesting place if the average public listens to psytrance and psytrance is considered mainstream. Granted, psytrance has changed a lot since 99-2001 when i was into it, but i still can't imagine it being mainstream. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Still disagree. The dubstep public has got nothing to do with the psytrance public. The psytrance public is the average public that receives information only thru mainstream "channels". The public is that guy who wants to go to a crazy rave, to a crowded place with frenetic music going on. At least here, in Brasil, and, as far as i know, in Europe and US too. On 23/04/2008, at 15:56, J.C. wrote: Referring to the fan base when I put that out there. :) Must not be as obvious in some communities as it is on the west coast. On 23 April 2008, Kowalsky wrote: Dubstep is the new psytrance? I mean: ??? On 23/04/2008, at 14:59, J.C. wrote: It's the new Psytrance, remember. -- San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice Award Winner: Best Radio DJ: http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php AIM: jckzsu (or kzsudj during my show.) "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.) -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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It has more a garage shaped beat than a half tempo dubstep beat. But it's a styles crossover, anyway. Kw On 24/04/2008, at 01:00, Frank Glazer wrote: this doesn't sound anything at all like the dubstep that i've heard. sounds like techno to me. and i like it. 2008/4/23 Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995 -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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You don't need to be on drugs to appreciate psytrance, though the music may "click" more if you've experienced the drugs and can relate to the headspace the music comes from. Same is probably true of any musical form that is closely linked to certain drugs (dub and pot, gabber and speed, etc) Personally, I loved psychedelic trance when it was goa and the music was coming from an LSD and mushrooms headspace. As it morphed into psytrance, the whole feel of the music changed and lost much of what first caught my interest. Suomisaundi is really the only style in that scene that still inspires me with its musical abandon and sense of humor. Dubstep seems to have gotten as staid and singular as psytrance did. I loved the whole 2Step sound and like the early dubstep that still showed its perky 2Step roots, but now much of the dubstep I've heard is a dreary sludgefest and all too similar sounding. This style of music could be so much more fun than most of it is. Its like a macho-man mentality crept in and got rid of all the bouncy and perky "girlie" aspects of 2Step to focus on being harder, darker and skankier than the next guy. I can't really think of that same mindset showing up in Detroit techno. Perhaps my perspective is limited, but even when it is very hard, dark and minimal I don't get the same "macho boys club" feeling from Detroit techno. When I lived in Ann Arbor and clubbed in Detroit, I didn't get that sense overall from the music I heard. Is it just me, or has the Detroit techno scene managed to sidestep the "macho boys club" musical mentality that seems to eventually plague most other scenes? {}0+>| Frank Glazer wrote: wha??? as a former psytrance dj who can still appreciate it to some extent (shutup tom;) i fail to see any comparison at all between the two, except perhaps that you really need to be on massive quantities of drugs to "get" either one. i hate dubstep though. i have a soft nostalgic spot in my heart for psytrance, but god damn is it way too fast for me now, and it has gotten much worse than it used to be, in general. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:59 PM, J.C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's the new Psytrance, remember. Even with that as the case though, there have been SOME tracks that have moved me. MOST though. ;) On 23 April 2008, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: i still cant be less impressed with dubstep. it annoys me to no end how much people are on its jock. tom -- San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice Award Winner: Best Radio DJ: http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php AIM: jckzsu (or kzsudj during my show.) "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.)
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UR? ;-) > -Original Message- > From: darnistle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 April 2008 16:16 > > Is it just me, or has the Detroit techno scene managed to sidestep the > "macho boys club" musical mentality that seems to eventually plague > most > other scenes?
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Unfortunately, "hard and edgy" seems seems to be the requirement for dubstep now. However, I would recommend Benga's new album on Tempa, which is not stuck in the aforementioned rut! He actually changes up the styles, rhythms and moods. The album is really fun to listen and dance to and it veers close enough to 2Step I just picked up the Caspa and Rusko mix (Fabriclive37) and it is enjoyable, as long as I don't scrutinize the tracks too much. Good to dance to, not necessarily to sit and listen to. In some ways it has that raw, early rave feel, where the squeeches and squelches manage to work in a mix, but the tracks themselves probably wouldn't stand up if you had to listen to them in their entirety. I would consider Burial dubstep. His first album was like 2Step for Goths. His second album was like dubstep for haunted ravers. He's soft and hard and edgy and turgid and moist and chill and so much more... I too have been "on dubstep's jock" (to quote Tom) somewhat lately, in spite of myself. {}0+>| Nik Stoltzman wrote: Silly me! So what defines dubstep? Hard and edgy? Firm and moist? Turgid? Burial isn't really dubstep - it's too wet and soft Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Nik Stoltzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2008 16:19 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread Weren't you raving about the last Burial album a few months back? Wouldn't people call that dubstep?. Not that it matters, I think. When it comes to 'dubstep' I do not like it more or less than any other music - I just like good music. When you say you don't like dubstep, do you have a particular sound or artist in mind? Or do you literally not think much of a whole tranche of music much of which you won't have heard? ;) Personally, I can't get enough of Elemental & 3D - Blob at the moment. Love it. N i still cant be less impressed with dubstep. it annoys me to no end how much people are on its jock. tom On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Mann, Ravinder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Aye, some dubstep seems to be going 4/4. See also releases on Hessle Audio. Here's a mix I've been enjoying recently . . http://www.djdowee.com/dreamvol1/dowee-dreammix-march2008.mp3 1. likhan - uwill 2. pinch - 136 trek 3. likhan - terre 4. pangaea - nest 5. untold - test signal 6. appleblim & peverelist - circling 7. scuba - outmost 8. peverelist - the grind 9. scuba - inmost 10. scuba - beta 11. peverelist - erstwhile rhythm (forsaken remix) 12. 2562 - circulate 13. benny ill vs. hatcha - poison 14. a made up sound - sleepwalk 15. 2562 - kameleon 16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix) 17. 2562 - channel two 18. ramadanman - carla 19. kode 9 vs. badawi - den of drumz 20. headhunter - locus lotus Rav -Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2008 15:00 To: [313] Cc: Kowalsky Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread dave huismans ole! Kowalsky schreef: > http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995 > > To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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Oh PLEASE. I'd hardly call UR a "macho boys club" relative to, say, techstep. The UR guys are all about collaboration and community, not competition and one-upsmanship. If you think UR is a boys club you either don't understand what darnistle was getting at, or you REALLY don't understand UR. On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > UR? ;-) > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: darnistle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 26 April 2008 16:16 > > > > Is it just me, or has the Detroit techno scene managed to sidestep the > > "macho boys club" musical mentality that seems to eventually plague > > most > > other scenes? > > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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You really don't understand a ;). It's sarcasm. Peace, Alex - Original Message From: Frank Glazer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 12:22:45 PM Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread Oh PLEASE. I'd hardly call UR a "macho boys club" relative to, say, techstep. The UR guys are all about collaboration and community, not competition and one-upsmanship. If you think UR is a boys club you either don't understand what darnistle was getting at, or you REALLY don't understand UR. On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > UR? ;-) > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: darnistle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 26 April 2008 16:16 > > > > Is it just me, or has the Detroit techno scene managed to sidestep the > > "macho boys club" musical mentality that seems to eventually plague > > most > > other scenes? > > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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Oh, this is nice! Even Tom might like it... {}0+>| Mann, Ravinder wrote: Aye, some dubstep seems to be going 4/4. See also releases on Hessle Audio. Here's a mix I've been enjoying recently . . http://www.djdowee.com/dreamvol1/dowee-dreammix-march2008.mp3 1. likhan - uwill 2. pinch - 136 trek 3. likhan - terre 4. pangaea - nest 5. untold - test signal 6. appleblim & peverelist - circling 7. scuba - outmost 8. peverelist - the grind 9. scuba - inmost 10. scuba - beta 11. peverelist - erstwhile rhythm (forsaken remix) 12. 2562 - circulate 13. benny ill vs. hatcha - poison 14. a made up sound - sleepwalk 15. 2562 - kameleon 16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix) 17. 2562 - channel two 18. ramadanman - carla 19. kode 9 vs. badawi - den of drumz 20. headhunter - locus lotus Rav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2008 15:00 To: [313] Cc: Kowalsky Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread dave huismans ole! Kowalsky schreef: http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995 To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
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Yes, i agree with you about dubstep. I would not say this in a list that's not very dubstep friendly, and i've already said this, for sure, in the dubstep forums. In the dubstep forums i stand up to other genres, like techno. :-) The "this" i would not say, but i got to, is: the same downpath that drum n' bass traced, dubstep is tracing right now. Producers with no sensibility or no feeling are taking their 15 minutes of fame with angry wo-wo-wo basslines and agressive drum rolls. The macho thing is gonna create a paralysis. But well... in other way of looking at things, dubstep is not only dubstep. Drum n' bass was not only drum n' bass. Jungle was not only jungle. You got to see this things all together as the urban music from the uk. As a mutanting thing that keeps revolving. And all of these styles, such as dubstep, they are not functionally made based on drugs or drugs headspace. Drugs are all around, yes. But dubstep, when it was born, and drum n' bass, when it was born, were much more about pavement, the city, the boroughs, the crew, it's urban music. They were connected directly to the beat shapped by and for the "kids", the expression of a moment in urban culture and its musical pulse. I don't know how things are moving right now – (recently, there are was a big night with all dubstep main producers at ministry of sound, in london...) – but there was no strobe light in dubstep nights. No clubism, no search for escapim, as you can find in the majority of trance related music and trance club scene. What i see on the bright side is that the best contributions of jungle, drum n' bass, grime, dubstep, they produce the seeds for the uk urban music to show his freshness from time to time. I like to look at the timeline and see how things evolved since first raves untill now. Kw On 26/04/2008, at 12:15, darnistle wrote: You don't need to be on drugs to appreciate psytrance, though the music may "click" more if you've experienced the drugs and can relate to the headspace the music comes from. Same is probably true of any musical form that is closely linked to certain drugs (dub and pot, gabber and speed, etc) Personally, I loved psychedelic trance when it was goa and the music was coming from an LSD and mushrooms headspace. As it morphed into psytrance, the whole feel of the music changed and lost much of what first caught my interest. Suomisaundi is really the only style in that scene that still inspires me with its musical abandon and sense of humor. Dubstep seems to have gotten as staid and singular as psytrance did. I loved the whole 2Step sound and like the early dubstep that still showed its perky 2Step roots, but now much of the dubstep I've heard is a dreary sludgefest and all too similar sounding. This style of music could be so much more fun than most of it is. Its like a macho-man mentality crept in and got rid of all the bouncy and perky "girlie" aspects of 2Step to focus on being harder, darker and skankier than the next guy. I can't really think of that same mindset showing up in Detroit techno. Perhaps my perspective is limited, but even when it is very hard, dark and minimal I don't get the same "macho boys club" feeling from Detroit techno. When I lived in Ann Arbor and clubbed in Detroit, I didn't get that sense overall from the music I heard. Is it just me, or has the Detroit techno scene managed to sidestep the "macho boys club" musical mentality that seems to eventually plague most other scenes? {}0+>| Frank Glazer wrote: wha??? as a former psytrance dj who can still appreciate it to some extent (shutup tom;) i fail to see any comparison at all between the two, except perhaps that you really need to be on massive quantities of drugs to "get" either one. i hate dubstep though. i have a soft nostalgic spot in my heart for psytrance, but god damn is it way too fast for me now, and it has gotten much worse than it used to be, in general. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:59 PM, J.C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's the new Psytrance, remember. Even with that as the case though, there have been SOME tracks that have moved me. MOST though. ;) On 23 April 2008, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: i still cant be less impressed with dubstep. it annoys me to no end how much people are on its jock. tom -- San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice Award Winner: Best Radio DJ: http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php AIM: jckzsu (or kzsudj during my show.) "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.)
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Caspa and Rusko sit among the starters of this wave of angry bass and of being hard and edgy, for the sake of itself, that i don't like much. For me, they represent what Bad Company represented to drum n' bass. Although Burial did not walk on the footsteps of dubstep stylings, his first EP, South London Bouroughs, was fundamental to shape the dubstep to come, 3 years ago. Kw On 26/04/2008, at 12:54, darnistle wrote: Unfortunately, "hard and edgy" seems seems to be the requirement for dubstep now. However, I would recommend Benga's new album on Tempa, which is not stuck in the aforementioned rut! He actually changes up the styles, rhythms and moods. The album is really fun to listen and dance to and it veers close enough to 2Step I just picked up the Caspa and Rusko mix (Fabriclive37) and it is enjoyable, as long as I don't scrutinize the tracks too much. Good to dance to, not necessarily to sit and listen to. In some ways it has that raw, early rave feel, where the squeeches and squelches manage to work in a mix, but the tracks themselves probably wouldn't stand up if you had to listen to them in their entirety. I would consider Burial dubstep. His first album was like 2Step for Goths. His second album was like dubstep for haunted ravers. He's soft and hard and edgy and turgid and moist and chill and so much more... I too have been "on dubstep's jock" (to quote Tom) somewhat lately, in spite of myself. {}0+>| Nik Stoltzman wrote: Silly me! So what defines dubstep? Hard and edgy? Firm and moist? Turgid? Burial isn't really dubstep - it's too wet and soft Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Nik Stoltzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2008 16:19 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread Weren't you raving about the last Burial album a few months back? Wouldn't people call that dubstep?. Not that it matters, I think. When it comes to 'dubstep' I do not like it more or less than any other music - I just like good music. When you say you don't like dubstep, do you have a particular sound or artist in mind? Or do you literally not think much of a whole tranche of music much of which you won't have heard? ;) Personally, I can't get enough of Elemental & 3D - Blob at the moment. Love it. N i still cant be less impressed with dubstep. it annoys me to no end how much people are on its jock. tom On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Mann, Ravinder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Aye, some dubstep seems to be going 4/4. See also releases on Hessle Audio. Here's a mix I've been enjoying recently . . http://www.djdowee.com/dreamvol1/dowee-dreammix-march2008.mp3 1. likhan - uwill 2. pinch - 136 trek 3. likhan - terre 4. pangaea - nest 5. untold - test signal 6. appleblim & peverelist - circling 7. scuba - outmost 8. peverelist - the grind 9. scuba - inmost 10. scuba - beta 11. peverelist - erstwhile rhythm (forsaken remix) 12. 2562 - circulate 13. benny ill vs. hatcha - poison 14. a made up sound - sleepwalk 15. 2562 - kameleon 16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix) 17. 2562 - channel two 18. ramadanman - carla 19. kode 9 vs. badawi - den of drumz 20. headhunter - locus lotus Rav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2008 15:00 To: [313] Cc: Kowalsky Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread dave huismans ole! Kowalsky schreef: > http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995 > > To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #