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i used to do the ableton live DJ thing but it felt more like doing a PA of ripped off 1-2-4-8 bar loops than a DJ set. I probably jsut freaked myself out :) -Joe - Original Message - From: kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tim Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org; /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 11:43 AM Subject: Re: (313) how do you mix Surgeon uses just Ableton live with a midi controller nowadays. He is playing in Holland next weekend, def. going to check that out. He played a set in Eindhoven with on december 27 last year which is recorded and put online: http://www.vpro.nl/weblog/news.jsp?news=15805349 On 9-jan-04, at 17:31, Tim Moore wrote: On Jan 8, 2004, at 5:45 PM, /0 wrote: I mix with a laptop, traktor, an oxygen 8, a mixer, an ineko, and an electrix mofx :) Good answer! :-) I've got a 12 PowerBook w/Reason and an Edirol USB controller, and a copy of Ableton Live is on order. I'm looking forward to seeing what I can do with that, either alongside or instead of a traditional turntable setup. I always regret admitting this in public DJ forums, but I really kind of hate spinning vinyl. I could do without the scratches, the pops, the cleaning solutions, the stacks of crates in my house and (most of all) the heavy bags! -- Tim Moore
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On Jan 9, 2004, at 9:24 PM, /0 wrote: i used to do the ableton live DJ thing but it felt more like doing a PA of ripped off 1-2-4-8 bar loops than a DJ set. I probably jsut freaked myself out :) -Joe I like the idea that it can kind of break down the boundaries between a DJ set and a live PA. The difference between mixing a prerecorded track and sampling it in another track is really just a matter of degree, innit? :-) For me, a lot of the appeal is to be able to do some interesting things in real time that you just can't really do with turntables. But on the other hand, sometimes you just want to play a track and let it stand on its own for a little while. I guess you can do that with Ableton, too, if you want. -- Tim Moore
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i dig traktor because I like to DJ but I dont have the time or money for shopping for vinyl. this way I can play friends tracks, mp3s I have, my own tracks, and unreleased stuff. + edits :) - Original Message - From: Tim Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 11:31 AM Subject: Re: (313) how do you mix On Jan 8, 2004, at 5:45 PM, /0 wrote: I mix with a laptop, traktor, an oxygen 8, a mixer, an ineko, and an electrix mofx :) Good answer! :-) I've got a 12 PowerBook w/Reason and an Edirol USB controller, and a copy of Ableton Live is on order. I'm looking forward to seeing what I can do with that, either alongside or instead of a traditional turntable setup. I always regret admitting this in public DJ forums, but I really kind of hate spinning vinyl. I could do without the scratches, the pops, the cleaning solutions, the stacks of crates in my house and (most of all) the heavy bags! -- Tim Moore
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thanks for the input so far guys... nb im not really a beginner to mixing, been doing it for many years but only really mixed jungle seriously... the 'house' thing is new to me :) ab -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 2:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix agreed, in a similar vein learning to read the grooves on the vinyl(helped by knowing general structure/feel of tunes) will help in that area immensely too. breakdowns look different to areas with more of a full bandwidth of audio for example... to people who already do this (probs most people that have mixing for a while), this seems blindingly obvious. when i explain that to most beginners tho you should see their faces light up :) robin... - very very true Andrewknowing your records inside out - will help you - click much easier than before.. - - -Original Message- - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 15:26 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Cc: 313@hyperreal.org - Subject: (313) how do you mix - - - - On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:12:54 +1030, - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - - ok so i am curious to know how you all mix, im not - into - tricks and things i - just want a nice smooth mix without endless - beatmatching (get on with the - tunes i say!) - - generally when i mix house i tend to bring the next - tune in with the bass - turned 3/4 of the way down and gradually bring it up - as - i bring the outgoing - tune's bass down then i wind down the volume until it - is faded out. or ill - bring a tune in with the bass almost off then at the - appropriate time ill - swap the bassline into the new tune (if that makes - sense) - - anyway its getting a bit 'samey' and im looking for - some tips - - hi, alex; from my experience i've found what is best - regardless is to know your tunes inside out structure - wise and use this to your advantage. know which songs - have beatless or acapella intros, which have these - sorts of breaks, which have these sorts of extros. - which songs fade in, which songs fade out; which sounds - kick right in with a beat, which soungs end with a - beat. which songs end cold (ie no fade out) and which - fade. then, when you're mixing, instead of thinking in - terms of tempo and beatmaching, just think in terms of - stitching together a fabric of songs into a whole. - example; - song 1: starts right off with a beat and has no - breakdowns that are beatless or acapella and it ends - cold. - song 2: has an acapella intro and then the beat kicks - in. it fades. - - mixing this way you have a variety of options. you - could let song 1 play and the second it ends (because - it ends cold), you could start song 2. you could lay - the acapella from song 2 over song 1 in bits (ie not - all at once; tease it in) and then switch over - completely to song 2 (on beat, of course :)) at a time - that feels right. - - when you've got songs with beatless intros and/or - breaks and/or extros, it becomes even easier because - you can lay the beatless intro from song 2 over the - beat of song 1, or start the beat from song 2 during - the beatless break or extro of song 1, etc. - - as you get more confident with this style and know your - songs even better, your stiching will be even tighter - and you'll have times when even you don't know which - bit is playing from which song (when they're playing at - once) and you'll be creating new pieces of music (the - third song). - - when i started mixing, (this is extremely funny in - hindsight, but i was extremely serious about it at the - time) i was playing everything from public enemy and - new order and inner city to r.e.m. and u2 and led - zeppelin. and i was anal beyond belief (flashback to a - young andrew: mom: andrew, how come you never have - your friends over anymore? andrew; because they don't - put things back in the right place!) whenever i got a - new record, i would take out my watch and find the bpm - of *every single track on the record* (yes, *even* the - ones that i would never play out!) and write them down - on a piece of paper in order from slowest tempo to - highest tempo on that record. i would then file all my - records (12s were easier, of course, cos they would - have less songs to bpm than an album) in terms of the - lowest starting bpm on that record. here's the - punchline: then when i djed (i was doing like a 6 hour - set on weekends at the university plus gigs here
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one think I dig is to throw on a bunch of mindless looping techno like drumcode and mix one record half a bar offbeat with the bass dropped out. that stuff loops so much that you can really line it up however you want, as long as its on step and tempo matched right. probably something you all know, but I think a lot of mills mixing utilizes the same technique -Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:46 PM Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix thanks for the input so far guys... nb im not really a beginner to mixing, been doing it for many years but only really mixed jungle seriously... the 'house' thing is new to me :) ab -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 2:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix agreed, in a similar vein learning to read the grooves on the vinyl(helped by knowing general structure/feel of tunes) will help in that area immensely too. breakdowns look different to areas with more of a full bandwidth of audio for example... to people who already do this (probs most people that have mixing for a while), this seems blindingly obvious. when i explain that to most beginners tho you should see their faces light up :) robin... - very very true Andrewknowing your records inside out - will help you - click much easier than before.. - - -Original Message- - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 15:26 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Cc: 313@hyperreal.org - Subject: (313) how do you mix - - - - On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:12:54 +1030, - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - - ok so i am curious to know how you all mix, im not - into - tricks and things i - just want a nice smooth mix without endless - beatmatching (get on with the - tunes i say!) - - generally when i mix house i tend to bring the next - tune in with the bass - turned 3/4 of the way down and gradually bring it up - as - i bring the outgoing - tune's bass down then i wind down the volume until it - is faded out. or ill - bring a tune in with the bass almost off then at the - appropriate time ill - swap the bassline into the new tune (if that makes - sense) - - anyway its getting a bit 'samey' and im looking for - some tips - - hi, alex; from my experience i've found what is best - regardless is to know your tunes inside out structure - wise and use this to your advantage. know which songs - have beatless or acapella intros, which have these - sorts of breaks, which have these sorts of extros. - which songs fade in, which songs fade out; which sounds - kick right in with a beat, which soungs end with a - beat. which songs end cold (ie no fade out) and which - fade. then, when you're mixing, instead of thinking in - terms of tempo and beatmaching, just think in terms of - stitching together a fabric of songs into a whole. - example; - song 1: starts right off with a beat and has no - breakdowns that are beatless or acapella and it ends - cold. - song 2: has an acapella intro and then the beat kicks - in. it fades. - - mixing this way you have a variety of options. you - could let song 1 play and the second it ends (because - it ends cold), you could start song 2. you could lay - the acapella from song 2 over song 1 in bits (ie not - all at once; tease it in) and then switch over - completely to song 2 (on beat, of course :)) at a time - that feels right. - - when you've got songs with beatless intros and/or - breaks and/or extros, it becomes even easier because - you can lay the beatless intro from song 2 over the - beat of song 1, or start the beat from song 2 during - the beatless break or extro of song 1, etc. - - as you get more confident with this style and know your - songs even better, your stiching will be even tighter - and you'll have times when even you don't know which - bit is playing from which song (when they're playing at - once) and you'll be creating new pieces of music (the - third song). - - when i started mixing, (this is extremely funny in - hindsight, but i was extremely serious about it at the - time) i was playing everything from public enemy and - new order and inner city to r.e.m. and u2 and led - zeppelin. and i was anal beyond belief (flashback to a - young andrew: mom: andrew, how come you never have - your friends over anymore? andrew; because they don't - put things back in the right place!) whenever i got a - new record, i would take out my watch and find the bpm - of *every single track on the record* (yes, *even* the - ones that i would never play out!) and write them down - on a piece of paper in order from slowest tempo to - highest tempo on that record. i would then file all my - records (12s were easier, of course, cos
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On Jan 8, 2004, at 10:10 AM, robin wrote: so here's a question. once you get used to mixing with decent eqs (where they will properly cut) do you find it hard to go back to mixing with just a bog standard no-eq mixer? i know i do (my style is a lot simpler and more choppy with no eq), i just wondered if everyone else does. Definitely. There are a few big clubs around here with old-style rotary club mixers (Rane or Urei) where you're lucky if there's a master EQ...definitely no per-channel. Hate it...I can barely mix on those things, never mind anything like cuts. But I'm not much of a cutter anyway, to get back to the original question. I tend to go for long, smooth mixes. EQ the bass a lot to smooth out the mix...sometimes cut the treble slightly on the incoming if both of the tracks have a lot of high freqs. I enjoy the type of techno DJ that can roll through 30+ tracks in an hour, but I've never been that way myself. I tend to ride the mixes too long to blast through records like that. Not to mention that I'm totally indecisive about what to play next a lot of the time, so I end up waiting until the last minute to mix the next track in. -- Tim Moore
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On Jan 8, 2004, at 5:45 PM, /0 wrote: I mix with a laptop, traktor, an oxygen 8, a mixer, an ineko, and an electrix mofx :) Good answer! :-) I've got a 12 PowerBook w/Reason and an Edirol USB controller, and a copy of Ableton Live is on order. I'm looking forward to seeing what I can do with that, either alongside or instead of a traditional turntable setup. I always regret admitting this in public DJ forums, but I really kind of hate spinning vinyl. I could do without the scratches, the pops, the cleaning solutions, the stacks of crates in my house and (most of all) the heavy bags! -- Tim Moore
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Surgeon uses just Ableton live with a midi controller nowadays. He is playing in Holland next weekend, def. going to check that out. He played a set in Eindhoven with on december 27 last year which is recorded and put online: http://www.vpro.nl/weblog/news.jsp?news=15805349 On 9-jan-04, at 17:31, Tim Moore wrote: On Jan 8, 2004, at 5:45 PM, /0 wrote: I mix with a laptop, traktor, an oxygen 8, a mixer, an ineko, and an electrix mofx :) Good answer! :-) I've got a 12 PowerBook w/Reason and an Edirol USB controller, and a copy of Ableton Live is on order. I'm looking forward to seeing what I can do with that, either alongside or instead of a traditional turntable setup. I always regret admitting this in public DJ forums, but I really kind of hate spinning vinyl. I could do without the scratches, the pops, the cleaning solutions, the stacks of crates in my house and (most of all) the heavy bags! -- Tim Moore
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I can't explain. It's too much of a spontaneous and natural expression for me, and is constantly evolving. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 12:43 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) how do you mix ok so i am curious to know how you all mix, im not into tricks and things i just want a nice smooth mix without endless beatmatching (get on with the tunes i say!) generally when i mix house i tend to bring the next tune in with the bass turned 3/4 of the way down and gradually bring it up as i bring the outgoing tune's bass down then i wind down the volume until it is faded out. or ill bring a tune in with the bass almost off then at the appropriate time ill swap the bassline into the new tune (if that makes sense) anyway its getting a bit 'samey' and im looking for some tips ab --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/04 *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
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I am pretty similar to you...i do normally work out 3 or 4 records ahead tho...i always allow the record to play and try and create something new out the 2 records, it is not simply a transition from one to the other. Particularly fond of mad acid mixed with mellow tunes w/basslines and or vocals Placid Site - www.acid-house.net Mixes are here - www.acidmixes.com/ ok so i am curious to know how you all mix, im not into tricks and things i just want a nice smooth mix without endless beatmatching (get on with the tunes i say!) generally when i mix house i tend to bring the next tune in with the bass turned 3/4 of the way down and gradually bring it up as i bring the outgoing tune's bass down then i wind down the volume until it is faded out. or ill bring a tune in with the bass almost off then at the appropriate time ill swap the bassline into the new tune (if that makes sense) anyway its getting a bit 'samey' and im looking for some tips ab --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/04 *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
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i find that a mix consisting entirely of train-wrecks can be really quite exciting. with all the cacophony and dischord present, the occassional, accidental instance of beat-matching will appear as an epiphany to the irritated listener. people don't let me get on the decks too much anymore... i'm not allowed to use the TV remote either. oh well. lrh From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/01/08 Thu AM 07:42:54 EST To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) how do you mix ok so i am curious to know how you all mix, im not into tricks and things i just want a nice smooth mix without endless beatmatching (get on with the tunes i say!) generally when i mix house i tend to bring the next tune in with the bass turned 3/4 of the way down and gradually bring it up as i bring the outgoing tune's bass down then i wind down the volume until it is faded out. or ill bring a tune in with the bass almost off then at the appropriate time ill swap the bassline into the new tune (if that makes sense) anyway its getting a bit 'samey' and im looking for some tips ab --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/04
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well hopefully someone slese can post my email as I know someof you have probs :) Ken please :))) I well play many styles but I like my techno cut up and I like it like Bone or Mills style..but then I also go for the long mixes and tricks as well , a bit of all I think,well I am no judge but that is how I would describe my style...for seamless mixing and perfect DJ'ing in that sense its gotta be Laurent Garnier all the time, he is the bomb, wicked style and wicked tunes..he even dropped Out of Space by the Prodigy at Sonar 2003 I heard..top man. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 12:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: (313) how do you mix ok so i am curious to know how you all mix, im not into tricks and things i just want a nice smooth mix without endless beatmatching (get on with the tunes i say!) generally when i mix house i tend to bring the next tune in with the bass turned 3/4 of the way down and gradually bring it up as i bring the outgoing tune's bass down then i wind down the volume until it is faded out. or ill bring a tune in with the bass almost off then at the appropriate time ill swap the bassline into the new tune (if that makes sense) anyway its getting a bit 'samey' and im looking for some tips ab --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/04
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so here's a question. once you get used to mixing with decent eqs (where they will properly cut) do you find it hard to go back to mixing with just a bog standard no-eq mixer? i know i do (my style is a lot simpler and more choppy with no eq), i just wondered if everyone else does. robin... - - oh and loads of EQ :) - - -Original Message- - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 15:03 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org - Cc: - Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix - - - - well hopefully someone slese can post my email as - I know someof you have probs :) Ken please :))) - - I well play many styles but I like my techno cut up - and I like it like Bone or Mills style..but then I also - go for the long mixes and - tricks as well , a bit of all I think,well I am no - judge but that is how I would - describe my style...for seamless mixing and perfect - DJ'ing in that sense its gotta - be Laurent Garnier all the time, he is the bomb, wicked - style and wicked tunes..he even dropped - Out of Space by the Prodigy at Sonar 2003 I heard..top man. - - -Original Message- - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent: Thu - 08/01/2004 12:42 - To: 313@hyperreal.org - Cc: - Subject: (313) how do you mix - - - - ok so i am curious to know how you all mix, im - not into tricks and things i - just want a nice smooth mix without endless - beatmatching (get on with the - tunes i say!) - - generally when i mix house i tend to bring the - next tune in with the bass - turned 3/4 of the way down and gradually bring - it up as i bring the outgoing - tune's bass down then i wind down the volume - until it is faded out. or ill - bring a tune in with the bass almost off then - at the appropriate time ill - swap the bassline into the new tune (if that - makes sense) - - anyway its getting a bit 'samey' and im looking - for some tips - - ab - - - --- - Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. - Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/04 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 02/01/2004
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thanks Ken...my resident postmaster :)) -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 15:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: FW: (313) how do you mix Viola! k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix oh and loads of EQ :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 15:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix well hopefully someone slese can post my email as I know someof you have probs :) Ken please :))) I well play many styles but I like my techno cut up and I like it like Bone or Mills style..but then I also go for the long mixes and tricks as well , a bit of all I think,well I am no judge but that is how I would describe my style...for seamless mixing and perfect DJ'ing in that sense its gotta be Laurent Garnier all the time, he is the bomb, wicked style and wicked tunes..he even dropped Out of Space by the Prodigy at Sonar 2003 I heard..top man. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 12:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: (313) how do you mix ok so i am curious to know how you all mix, im not into tricks and things i just want a nice smooth mix without endless beatmatching (get on with the tunes i say!) generally when i mix house i tend to bring the next tune in with the bass turned 3/4 of the way down and gradually bring it up as i bring the outgoing tune's bass down then i wind down the volume until it is faded out. or ill bring a tune in with the bass almost off then at the appropriate time ill swap the bassline into the new tune (if that makes sense) anyway its getting a bit 'samey' and im looking for some tips ab --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/04
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without a doubt..man without EQ now would be hard..but hey I think it would be a good thing to do now as your learning how to mix with all levels up :) -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 15:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix so here's a question. once you get used to mixing with decent eqs (where they will properly cut) do you find it hard to go back to mixing with just a bog standard no-eq mixer? i know i do (my style is a lot simpler and more choppy with no eq), i just wondered if everyone else does. robin... - - oh and loads of EQ :) - - -Original Message- - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 15:03 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org - Cc: - Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix - - - - well hopefully someone slese can post my email as - I know someof you have probs :) Ken please :))) - - I well play many styles but I like my techno cut up - and I like it like Bone or Mills style..but then I also - go for the long mixes and - tricks as well , a bit of all I think,well I am no - judge but that is how I would - describe my style...for seamless mixing and perfect - DJ'ing in that sense its gotta - be Laurent Garnier all the time, he is the bomb, wicked - style and wicked tunes..he even dropped - Out of Space by the Prodigy at Sonar 2003 I heard..top man. - - -Original Message- - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent: Thu - 08/01/2004 12:42 - To: 313@hyperreal.org - Cc: - Subject: (313) how do you mix - - - - ok so i am curious to know how you all mix, im - not into tricks and things i - just want a nice smooth mix without endless - beatmatching (get on with the - tunes i say!) - - generally when i mix house i tend to bring the - next tune in with the bass - turned 3/4 of the way down and gradually bring - it up as i bring the outgoing - tune's bass down then i wind down the volume - until it is faded out. or ill - bring a tune in with the bass almost off then - at the appropriate time ill - swap the bassline into the new tune (if that - makes sense) - - anyway its getting a bit 'samey' and im looking - for some tips - - ab - - - --- - Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. - Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/04 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 02/01/2004
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yeah he is a bad boy :) -Original Message- From: Gavin Daruvalla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 15:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix as well as dropping edwin star - war, Nirvana - Smells like teen spirit mixed with Man with the red face, oh my god, the king lives!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 15:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix well hopefully someone slese can post my email as I know someof you have probs :) Ken please :))) I well play many styles but I like my techno cut up and I like it like Bone or Mills style..but then I also go for the long mixes and tricks as well , a bit of all I think,well I am no judge but that is how I would describe my style...for seamless mixing and perfect DJ'ing in that sense its gotta be Laurent Garnier all the time, he is the bomb, wicked style and wicked tunes..he even dropped Out of Space by the Prodigy at Sonar 2003 I heard..top man. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 12:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: (313) how do you mix ok so i am curious to know how you all mix, im not into tricks and things i just want a nice smooth mix without endless beatmatching (get on with the tunes i say!) generally when i mix house i tend to bring the next tune in with the bass turned 3/4 of the way down and gradually bring it up as i bring the outgoing tune's bass down then i wind down the volume until it is faded out. or ill bring a tune in with the bass almost off then at the appropriate time ill swap the bassline into the new tune (if that makes sense) anyway its getting a bit 'samey' and im looking for some tips ab --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/04
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very very true Andrewknowing your records inside out will help you click much easier than before.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 15:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) how do you mix On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:12:54 +1030, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok so i am curious to know how you all mix, im not into tricks and things i just want a nice smooth mix without endless beatmatching (get on with the tunes i say!) generally when i mix house i tend to bring the next tune in with the bass turned 3/4 of the way down and gradually bring it up as i bring the outgoing tune's bass down then i wind down the volume until it is faded out. or ill bring a tune in with the bass almost off then at the appropriate time ill swap the bassline into the new tune (if that makes sense) anyway its getting a bit 'samey' and im looking for some tips hi, alex; from my experience i've found what is best regardless is to know your tunes inside out structure wise and use this to your advantage. know which songs have beatless or acapella intros, which have these sorts of breaks, which have these sorts of extros. which songs fade in, which songs fade out; which sounds kick right in with a beat, which soungs end with a beat. which songs end cold (ie no fade out) and which fade. then, when you're mixing, instead of thinking in terms of tempo and beatmaching, just think in terms of stitching together a fabric of songs into a whole. example; song 1: starts right off with a beat and has no breakdowns that are beatless or acapella and it ends cold. song 2: has an acapella intro and then the beat kicks in. it fades. mixing this way you have a variety of options. you could let song 1 play and the second it ends (because it ends cold), you could start song 2. you could lay the acapella from song 2 over song 1 in bits (ie not all at once; tease it in) and then switch over completely to song 2 (on beat, of course :)) at a time that feels right. when you've got songs with beatless intros and/or breaks and/or extros, it becomes even easier because you can lay the beatless intro from song 2 over the beat of song 1, or start the beat from song 2 during the beatless break or extro of song 1, etc. as you get more confident with this style and know your songs even better, your stiching will be even tighter and you'll have times when even you don't know which bit is playing from which song (when they're playing at once) and you'll be creating new pieces of music (the third song). when i started mixing, (this is extremely funny in hindsight, but i was extremely serious about it at the time) i was playing everything from public enemy and new order and inner city to r.e.m. and u2 and led zeppelin. and i was anal beyond belief (flashback to a young andrew: mom: andrew, how come you never have your friends over anymore? andrew; because they don't put things back in the right place!) whenever i got a new record, i would take out my watch and find the bpm of *every single track on the record* (yes, *even* the ones that i would never play out!) and write them down on a piece of paper in order from slowest tempo to highest tempo on that record. i would then file all my records (12s were easier, of course, cos they would have less songs to bpm than an album) in terms of the lowest starting bpm on that record. here's the punchline: then when i djed (i was doing like a 6 hour set on weekends at the university plus gigs here and there (back then they were called mobiles)) i would start the night around 8pm with songs at the lowest bpm (say 60) and play all the 60bpm songs, then move to 62 for a while, then 65, etc. later in the night i would be up to 120 or so. (gosh, that must have been horribly painful and annoying and repetitive for repeat attendees!) if i would get a request for a song that was downtempo and i was playing in the 120 range, i would say i've already played songs in that tempo. (yes, i hope you're laughing as you read this. thankfully i'm not that anal person anymore, but you've got to picture lil' ol' me back then, so
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agreed, in a similar vein learning to read the grooves on the vinyl(helped by knowing general structure/feel of tunes) will help in that area immensely too. breakdowns look different to areas with more of a full bandwidth of audio for example... to people who already do this (probs most people that have mixing for a while), this seems blindingly obvious. when i explain that to most beginners tho you should see their faces light up :) robin... - very very true Andrewknowing your records inside out - will help you - click much easier than before.. - - -Original Message- - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 15:26 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Cc: 313@hyperreal.org - Subject: (313) how do you mix - - - - On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:12:54 +1030, - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - - ok so i am curious to know how you all mix, im not - into - tricks and things i - just want a nice smooth mix without endless - beatmatching (get on with the - tunes i say!) - - generally when i mix house i tend to bring the next - tune in with the bass - turned 3/4 of the way down and gradually bring it up - as - i bring the outgoing - tune's bass down then i wind down the volume until it - is faded out. or ill - bring a tune in with the bass almost off then at the - appropriate time ill - swap the bassline into the new tune (if that makes - sense) - - anyway its getting a bit 'samey' and im looking for - some tips - - hi, alex; from my experience i've found what is best - regardless is to know your tunes inside out structure - wise and use this to your advantage. know which songs - have beatless or acapella intros, which have these - sorts of breaks, which have these sorts of extros. - which songs fade in, which songs fade out; which sounds - kick right in with a beat, which soungs end with a - beat. which songs end cold (ie no fade out) and which - fade. then, when you're mixing, instead of thinking in - terms of tempo and beatmaching, just think in terms of - stitching together a fabric of songs into a whole. - example; - song 1: starts right off with a beat and has no - breakdowns that are beatless or acapella and it ends - cold. - song 2: has an acapella intro and then the beat kicks - in. it fades. - - mixing this way you have a variety of options. you - could let song 1 play and the second it ends (because - it ends cold), you could start song 2. you could lay - the acapella from song 2 over song 1 in bits (ie not - all at once; tease it in) and then switch over - completely to song 2 (on beat, of course :)) at a time - that feels right. - - when you've got songs with beatless intros and/or - breaks and/or extros, it becomes even easier because - you can lay the beatless intro from song 2 over the - beat of song 1, or start the beat from song 2 during - the beatless break or extro of song 1, etc. - - as you get more confident with this style and know your - songs even better, your stiching will be even tighter - and you'll have times when even you don't know which - bit is playing from which song (when they're playing at - once) and you'll be creating new pieces of music (the - third song). - - when i started mixing, (this is extremely funny in - hindsight, but i was extremely serious about it at the - time) i was playing everything from public enemy and - new order and inner city to r.e.m. and u2 and led - zeppelin. and i was anal beyond belief (flashback to a - young andrew: mom: andrew, how come you never have - your friends over anymore? andrew; because they don't - put things back in the right place!) whenever i got a - new record, i would take out my watch and find the bpm - of *every single track on the record* (yes, *even* the - ones that i would never play out!) and write them down - on a piece of paper in order from slowest tempo to - highest tempo on that record. i would then file all my - records (12s were easier, of course, cos they would - have less songs to bpm than an album) in terms of the - lowest starting bpm on that record. here's the - punchline: then when i djed (i was doing like a 6 hour - set on weekends at the university plus gigs here and - there (back then they were called mobiles)) i would - start the night around 8pm with songs at the lowest bpm - (say 60) and play all the 60bpm songs, then move to 62 - for a while, then 65, etc. later in the night i would - be up to 120 or so. (gosh, that must have been - horribly painful and annoying and
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he even dropped Out of Space by the Prodigy at Sonar 2003 I heard..top man. Mills dropping 'Charly' by The Prodigy was a classic DJing moment as well! [EMAIL PROTECTED] der.co.uk To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc: 08/01/2004 15:03 Fax to: Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix well hopefully someone slese can post my email as I know someof you have probs :) Ken please :))) I well play many styles but I like my techno cut up and I like it like Bone or Mills style..but then I also go for the long mixes and tricks as well , a bit of all I think,well I am no judge but that is how I would describe my style...for seamless mixing and perfect DJ'ing in that sense its gotta be Laurent Garnier all the time, he is the bomb, wicked style and wicked tunes..he even dropped Out of Space by the Prodigy at Sonar 2003 I heard..top man. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 12:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: (313) how do you mix ok so i am curious to know how you all mix, im not into tricks and things i just want a nice smooth mix without endless beatmatching (get on with the tunes i say!) generally when i mix house i tend to bring the next tune in with the bass turned 3/4 of the way down and gradually bring it up as i bring the outgoing tune's bass down then i wind down the volume until it is faded out. or ill bring a tune in with the bass almost off then at the appropriate time ill swap the bassline into the new tune (if that makes sense) anyway its getting a bit 'samey' and im looking for some tips ab --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/04
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dropped Out of Space by the Prodigy at Sonar 2003... and that is meant to be a good thing ? p
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Oh yes -it would be foolish to deny the greatness of early Prodigy tunes -Original Message- From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 4:18 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix dropped Out of Space by the Prodigy at Sonar 2003... and that is meant to be a good thing ? p # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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agree totally Rob..cor some people eh? :) joke P :) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 16:20 To: placid; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix Oh yes -it would be foolish to deny the greatness of early Prodigy tunes -Original Message- From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 4:18 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix dropped Out of Space by the Prodigy at Sonar 2003... and that is meant to be a good thing ? p # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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-- Original Message -- From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh yes -it would be foolish to deny the greatness of early Prodigy tunes especially that song which is essentially one of the best reggae tracks ever (max romeo's i chase the devil) with a breakbeat behind it. tom andythepooh.com
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toliets for you then :) -Original Message- From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 09/01/2004 16:23 To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: (313) how do you mix Joking aside if I heard that in the middle of a legendary garnier set it would be 'toilets' or 'bar' time -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 16:20 To: placid; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix Oh yes -it would be foolish to deny the greatness of early Prodigy tunes -Original Message- From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 4:18 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix dropped Out of Space by the Prodigy at Sonar 2003... and that is meant to be a good thing ? p # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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really?? and now with his new residency at the end , 2004 just gets better and better . -Original Message- From: Gavin Daruvalla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 16:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix you know Laurent And Jeff Will be touring together this year :))) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 16:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix he even dropped Out of Space by the Prodigy at Sonar 2003 I heard..top man. Mills dropping 'Charly' by The Prodigy was a classic DJing moment as well! [EMAIL PROTECTED] der.co.uk To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc: 08/01/2004 15:03 Fax to: Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix well hopefully someone slese can post my email as I know someof you have probs :) Ken please :))) I well play many styles but I like my techno cut up and I like it like Bone or Mills style..but then I also go for the long mixes and tricks as well , a bit of all I think,well I am no judge but that is how I would describe my style...for seamless mixing and perfect DJ'ing in that sense its gotta be Laurent Garnier all the time, he is the bomb, wicked style and wicked tunes..he even dropped Out of Space by the Prodigy at Sonar 2003 I heard..top man. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 12:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: (313) how do you mix ok so i am curious to know how you all mix, im not into tricks and things i just want a nice smooth mix without endless beatmatching (get on with the tunes i say!) generally when i mix house i tend to bring the next tune in with the bass turned 3/4 of the way down and gradually bring it up as i bring the outgoing tune's bass down then i wind down the volume until it is faded out. or ill bring a tune in with the bass almost off then at the appropriate time ill swap the bassline into the new tune (if that makes sense) anyway its getting a bit 'samey' and im looking for some tips ab --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/04
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That is Out Of Space! -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 4:31 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix -- Original Message -- From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh yes -it would be foolish to deny the greatness of early Prodigy tunes especially that song which is essentially one of the best reggae tracks ever (max romeo's i chase the devil) with a breakbeat behind it. tom andythepooh.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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-- Original Message -- From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is Out Of Space! i know, i was referring to that song which was mentioned as opposed to that song in general. i didnt realise it came out sounding like that : ) tom andythepooh.com
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we still love ya :) -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 08/01/2004 16:46 To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix -- Original Message -- From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is Out Of Space! i know, i was referring to that song which was mentioned as opposed to that song in general. i didnt realise it came out sounding like that : ) tom andythepooh.com
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considering that it is the song that got me into this whole electronic thing in the first place, i'd say yes. i'd go apesh*t if i heard it in the middle of a garnier set. hey now there's a fun thread. On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, placid wrote: dropped Out of Space by the Prodigy at Sonar 2003... and that is meant to be a good thing ? p
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'toilets' or 'bar' time CLASSIC!! :O) -Original Message- From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 January 2004 16:23 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) how do you mix Joking aside if I heard that in the middle of a legendary garnier set it would be 'toilets' or 'bar' time -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 16:20 To: placid; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix Oh yes -it would be foolish to deny the greatness of early Prodigy tunes -Original Message- From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 4:18 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) how do you mix dropped Out of Space by the Prodigy at Sonar 2003... and that is meant to be a good thing ? p # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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LOL! excellent! I once heard someone refer to that as the sound/effect of sneakers in the dryer I'm not into fancy stuff at all and usually take the road that the music stands for itself, as-is. I don't usually futz around with very fine controls unless I feel it adds something to what I'm doing. When I first started I used to keep my indiv level controls up and then use the fader left-to-right, etc. but then somewhere along the way I changed to mostly not using the master fader at all and just using the levels for each channel (and my ears watching the levels). But then it really depends on what you're doing how you're doing it. Also whatever kind of tunes you're playing. I think some lend better to the mad/slam back forth that one can get from using the master fade. I have to say tho' - the train wreck method IS really entertaining - I've spent some time there myself! Nowadays it's mostly slight drag or missed measures that can sneak up on me ... ;) lisa - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 8, 2004 7:57 am Subject: Re: (313) how do you mix i find that a mix consisting entirely of train-wrecks can be really quite exciting. with all the cacophony and dischord present, the occassional, accidental instance of beat-matching will appear as an epiphany to the irritated listener. people don't let me get on the decks too much anymore... i'm not allowed to use the TV remote either. oh well. lrh From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/01/08 Thu AM 07:42:54 EST To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) how do you mix ok so i am curious to know how you all mix, im not into tricks and things i just want a nice smooth mix without endless beatmatching (get on with the tunes i say!) generally when i mix house i tend to bring the next tune in with the bass turned 3/4 of the way down and gradually bring it up as i bring the outgoing tune's bass down then i wind down the volume until it is faded out. or ill bring a tune in with the bass almost off then at the appropriate time ill swap the bassline into the new tune (if that makes sense) anyway its getting a bit 'samey' and im looking for some tips ab --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/04
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so here's a question. once you get used to mixing with decent eqs (where they will properly cut) do you find it hard to go back to mixing with just a bog standard no-eq mixer? YesI find mixing on a Urei type mixer very limiting, although you can't beat it's sound quality.
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I mix pretty horribly. I have my moments though. I usually stick to a BPM of around trip hop, dub, IDM etc. Plus, well, I just enjoy that music more. My equipment sucks. My record mats on my turntables are pieces of felt I cut out. Somehow spending stupid amounts of $ on pieces of felt that read technics or plasktikman didn't make much sense to me. My mixer is worth crap.Actually, I got it for free. So, usually the fader has to stay in the middle and I have to move the channels up and down. Also, my cue volume doesn't really work- just on one channel. So on channel two it's basically a guessing game or listening REALLY good into my headphones and trying to weed out the track in the faint distance from whatever is on channel one. I don't have a monitor speaker either. The entire thing is hooked up to my little speaker system that's also my cd player and tape player. I remember playing somewhere and using a monitor speaker for the first time in a long time. I couldn't stand it, ironically enough. Then...their monitor actually overheated and letted out these fumes that sent out everyone in the booth covering their mouth and eyes. fun times. So yeah...if anyone wants to send me new needles, or just some new equipment in general...feel free. Email me for my addy. ;) ...and that's how I mix. d __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
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actually, I think it should be required to learn how to play on equipment that sucks. because if you can do that, even remotely well, you can do it on other (hopefully better) equipment. when playing out (if you're not bringing your own equipment) one never knows what will be waiting for you ... I'm sure most everyone here has some interesting stories on that! lisa :) ps - I reiterate my annoyance with my ISP's version of webmail, no matter if this makes it or not, I won't re-post it - grrr! 7 hours to post a message - now THAT's service! :\ - Original Message - From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 8, 2004 4:16 pm Subject: Re: (313) how do you mix I mix pretty horribly. I have my moments though. I usually stick to a BPM of around trip hop, dub, IDM etc. Plus, well, I just enjoy that music more. My equipment sucks. My record mats on my turntables are pieces of felt I cut out. Somehow spending stupid amounts of $ on pieces of felt that read technics or plasktikman didn't make much sense to me. My mixer is worth crap.Actually, I got it for free. So, usually the fader has to stay in the middle and I have to move the channels up and down. Also, my cue volume doesn't really work- just on one channel. So on channel two it's basically a guessing game or listening REALLY good into my headphones and trying to weed out the track in the faint distance from whatever is on channel one. I don't have a monitor speaker either. The entire thing is hooked up to my little speaker system that's also my cd player and tape player. I remember playing somewhere and using a monitor speaker for the first time in a long time. I couldn't stand it, ironically enough. Then...their monitor actually overheated and letted out these fumes that sent out everyone in the booth covering their mouth and eyes. fun times. So yeah...if anyone wants to send me new needles, or just some new equipment in general...feel free. Email me for my addy. ;) ...and that's how I mix. d __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
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I mix with a laptop, traktor, an oxygen 8, a mixer, an ineko, and an electrix mofx :) :) - Original Message - From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 4:16 PM Subject: Re: (313) how do you mix I mix pretty horribly. I have my moments though. I usually stick to a BPM of around trip hop, dub, IDM etc. Plus, well, I just enjoy that music more. My equipment sucks. My record mats on my turntables are pieces of felt I cut out. Somehow spending stupid amounts of $ on pieces of felt that read technics or plasktikman didn't make much sense to me. My mixer is worth crap.Actually, I got it for free. So, usually the fader has to stay in the middle and I have to move the channels up and down. Also, my cue volume doesn't really work- just on one channel. So on channel two it's basically a guessing game or listening REALLY good into my headphones and trying to weed out the track in the faint distance from whatever is on channel one. I don't have a monitor speaker either. The entire thing is hooked up to my little speaker system that's also my cd player and tape player. I remember playing somewhere and using a monitor speaker for the first time in a long time. I couldn't stand it, ironically enough. Then...their monitor actually overheated and letted out these fumes that sent out everyone in the booth covering their mouth and eyes. fun times. So yeah...if anyone wants to send me new needles, or just some new equipment in general...feel free. Email me for my addy. ;) ...and that's how I mix. d __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
Re: (313) how do you mix
:( of course this is terrible grammar :( - Original Message - From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 5:45 PM Subject: Re: (313) how do you mix I mix with a laptop, traktor, an oxygen 8, a mixer, an ineko, and an electrix mofx :) :) - Original Message - From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 4:16 PM Subject: Re: (313) how do you mix I mix pretty horribly. I have my moments though. I usually stick to a BPM of around trip hop, dub, IDM etc. Plus, well, I just enjoy that music more. My equipment sucks. My record mats on my turntables are pieces of felt I cut out. Somehow spending stupid amounts of $ on pieces of felt that read technics or plasktikman didn't make much sense to me. My mixer is worth crap.Actually, I got it for free. So, usually the fader has to stay in the middle and I have to move the channels up and down. Also, my cue volume doesn't really work- just on one channel. So on channel two it's basically a guessing game or listening REALLY good into my headphones and trying to weed out the track in the faint distance from whatever is on channel one. I don't have a monitor speaker either. The entire thing is hooked up to my little speaker system that's also my cd player and tape player. I remember playing somewhere and using a monitor speaker for the first time in a long time. I couldn't stand it, ironically enough. Then...their monitor actually overheated and letted out these fumes that sent out everyone in the booth covering their mouth and eyes. fun times. So yeah...if anyone wants to send me new needles, or just some new equipment in general...feel free. Email me for my addy. ;) ...and that's how I mix. d __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
