Re: (313) record insurance (OT)

2004-07-01 Thread Erin Bate
I know that the records in my house are covered in our insurance, but 
not all of our records. When I originally got my insurance, I had to 
estimate how many records we owned. Our insurance will only cover so 
many "vinyl records", these are considered collectables and for any 
additional coverage we pay for an extra floating policy. I have one on 
my wedding ring, records,computers, and the studio equiptment. I would 
really recommend anyone who has thousands of records looking into this. 
We also have a business floater on the record store that sits in the 
basement for the other excess records. Originally,  insurance would only 
cover up to $2500 on all your collectables. Collectables could be stamp 
and coin collections,framed art, furs, sculptures, vinyl records, record 
players, golf clubs, ect. To be honest my insurance agent had no idea 
people collected so many records! Just be sure to review you policies.. 
and yes get pictures!

~E


Joking aside, a household contents insurance policy should cover it. You 
would need to be aware of whether they classify a collection of items as 
a 'single article' because your single article limit will probably be 
less than the sum total of your records. The other thing to do is take 
photographic evidence of your collection which you can present in the 
case of the claim.





Re: (313) record insurance (OT)

2004-07-01 Thread J. T.
about 30 years ago a large portion of my dad's record collection was 
stolen..it included many super rare old 78's worth several thousand dollars 
these days...every once in awhile he'll spot some of them being sold now 
(they're identifiable due to having unique chips, or labels, or being 1 of 
only a few known in existance, whatever)...pretty frustrating and crazy when 
you spot your own precious stolen records being sold..hey that's mine! 
nothing you can do..except get more..




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Subject: Re: (313) record insurance (OT)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 12:32:20 -0500

one of my best friend's record collection was involved in a fire while he 
was out of the country recently.  he had them stored at a high school 
friend's place, which was almost completely gutted by fire.  we spent 
several days retrieving and sorting thru 9 postal crates full of 
smoke-damaged record sleeves -- but somewhat miraculously, almost all of 
the records still play just fine.  a few are a bit warped, and I bet his 
current set of needles won't last long, but mainly just sleeve damage and 
the wondrous scent of campfire and burnt plastic.


- jobot



- Original Message -
From: Chris Anglesey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, July 1, 2004 11:44 am
Subject: Re: (313) record insurance (OT)

>
> Yes Robin, you're right about DC losing a large portion of his
> tunes in a
> fire.
> Think this happened about 5 years ago. Apparently he didn't lose
> all of them
> & many of the records he owned which used to belong to Ron Hardy were
> safe. I pray something like this never happens to me. I got half
> of my
> collection
> stolen once and that was bad enough :(
>
>
> Subject: Re: (313) record insurance (OT)
>
> > >
> > > Speaking of, it seems like I heard Derrick Carter lost his
> house/record> > collection to a fire a few years back. Anyone know
> about this or am I
> > > dreaming this up?
> > >
> >
> > might have been derrick as well but i remember Maurice Fulton losing
> > his whole collection a coupla years back.
> >
> > also happened to charlie hall (drum club/projex) a few years
> back too.
> >
> > i shudder to think how i'd feel if this happened to me
> >
> > robin...
> >
> >
>
>
>



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Re: (313) record insurance (OT)

2004-07-01 Thread jbartuski
one of my best friend's record collection was involved in a fire while he was 
out of the country recently.  he had them stored at a high school friend's 
place, which was almost completely gutted by fire.  we spent several days 
retrieving and sorting thru 9 postal crates full of smoke-damaged record 
sleeves -- but somewhat miraculously, almost all of the records still play just 
fine.  a few are a bit warped, and I bet his current set of needles won't last 
long, but mainly just sleeve damage and the wondrous scent of campfire and 
burnt plastic.  

- jobot



- Original Message -
From: Chris Anglesey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, July 1, 2004 11:44 am
Subject: Re: (313) record insurance (OT)

> 
> Yes Robin, you're right about DC losing a large portion of his 
> tunes in a
> fire.
> Think this happened about 5 years ago. Apparently he didn't lose 
> all of them
> & many of the records he owned which used to belong to Ron Hardy were
> safe. I pray something like this never happens to me. I got half 
> of my
> collection
> stolen once and that was bad enough :(
> 
> 
> Subject: Re: (313) record insurance (OT)
> 
> > >
> > > Speaking of, it seems like I heard Derrick Carter lost his 
> house/record> > collection to a fire a few years back. Anyone know 
> about this or am I
> > > dreaming this up?
> > >
> >
> > might have been derrick as well but i remember Maurice Fulton losing
> > his whole collection a coupla years back.
> >
> > also happened to charlie hall (drum club/projex) a few years 
> back too.
> >
> > i shudder to think how i'd feel if this happened to me
> >
> > robin...
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 



Re: (313) record insurance (OT)

2004-07-01 Thread jbartuski
I believe if you get renter's insurance you can declare your records as a 
valuable, in which case they would be covered if stolen... which reminds me, I 
need to get renter's insurance.

No idea if you're a homeowner, and things are probably different in the UK 
anyways.

- jobot



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Date: Thursday, July 1, 2004 9:13 am
Subject: (313) record insurance (OT)

> Hi
> 
> Do people insure their records?
> 
> If so, where? and does it cost alot?
> 
> My new house is wayyy too easy to break into for my liking, and I 
> just know
> one day I'm gonna catch some 12 yr old dangling half way outside 
> my spare
> room window with a load of records under his arm. (Probably before 
> I get a
> chance to insure them).
> 
> and, to be honest, they're about the only thing I own that is worth
> anything.
> 
> That was a plus of living on the 11th floor. If some spiderman 
> type could
> climb 11 floors to get into my flat, he'd have been welcome to my 
> chit.
> any ideas?
> 
> sorry to be OT, I have no idea of who to ask though.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Alex
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Re: (313) record insurance (OT)

2004-07-01 Thread Chris Anglesey

Yes Robin, you're right about DC losing a large portion of his tunes in a
fire.
Think this happened about 5 years ago. Apparently he didn't lose all of them
& many of the records he owned which used to belong to Ron Hardy were
safe. I pray something like this never happens to me. I got half of my
collection
stolen once and that was bad enough :(


Subject: Re: (313) record insurance (OT)

> >
> > Speaking of, it seems like I heard Derrick Carter lost his house/record
> > collection to a fire a few years back. Anyone know about this or am I
> > dreaming this up?
> >
>
> might have been derrick as well but i remember Maurice Fulton losing
> his whole collection a coupla years back.
>
> also happened to charlie hall (drum club/projex) a few years back too.
>
> i shudder to think how i'd feel if this happened to me
>
> robin...
>
>




Re: (313) record insurance (OT)

2004-07-01 Thread Martin Dust
Hang on a minute Alex...Household insurance often doesn't cover your
records, you need to call them and ask because I know someone who thought
this but didn't get the value of his collection, what he got was the cost to
replace them at face value - so instead of £40 for one  collectors copy of
Rob Hood, he actually got £7.99...You need to check this.

I have to catalogue mine every month and send it to the insurance company,
who then charge me about 2% of the total value - so if they go up in a puff
of smoke I get the full value of my collection...

Martin


1/7/04 2:34 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@uk.pwc.com

> 
> thanks all, it's much appreciated.
> I'm pretty clueless (and irresponsible I guess) about these sort of things.
> 
> ha ha, now I'll ask Rebecca to sort it out.
> 
> ho ho ho.
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Re: RE: (313) record insurance (OT)

2004-07-01 Thread ubergirl
yeah, mine are handled under my renter's insurance and I didn't itemize 
anything. if you do itemize, the insurance cost can increase. pictures are 
important because they can at least prove an estimate of how many pieces you 
own. then you could estimate an average 'per piece' replacement cost. some 
people say to include a daily newspaper somewhere in the photos, "proving" the 
date that the pic was taken.

lisa

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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, July 1, 2004 10:39 am
Subject: RE: (313) record insurance (OT)

> Alex
> 
> Mine are covered under my contents insurance.  Just so I'm sure 
> about this I
> send a letter to whoever my insurer is at the time specifying the 
> contentsof my flat including £30K of records.  The insurers 
> usually say they're only
> interested in large individual value items being specified but I 
> guess it
> makes me feel there's less room for argument after if I've put it 
> in writing
> to them what they are supposed to be insuring.
> 
> Francis
> 
> 
>



Re: (313) record insurance (OT)

2004-07-01 Thread David Beattie
I have mine covered in my home insurance but I told
them that I had £x worth of CD's and £x worth of
records and asked them to note that with the sidenote
that that number will rise as the year goes on ;-) As
long as no single record goes over my single item
limit £500+ must be declared separately and listed
then its OK.

Cheers
BT

--- robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
> yeah i'm the same...covered in the amount i insure
> in contents. it's 
> fire and flood that i worry about not someone
> gathering boxes together 
> and lugging vinyl down the street.
> 
> take pics of all the vinyl in it's racks tho as the
> insurance jokers 
> won't believe you when you say you had 5000 bits of
> vinyl
> 
> be interesting to see if anyone has them more
> specifically insured, and 
> whether this requires having a list of all your
> records.
> 
> robin...
> 
> 
> On 1 Jul 2004, at 15:18, Toby Frith wrote:
> 
> > I would have thought that they were covered under
> house insurance. 
> > Mine are.
> >
> > To be honest though, unless the burglar knew a)you
> had a load of 
> > records and b) knew about records themselves it's
> unlikely that they'd 
> > steal them because they're bulky and heavy. It's
> much more likely that 
> > they'll just nick your electrical equipment.
> >
> 
>  


Re: (313) record insurance (OT)

2004-07-01 Thread robin


Speaking of, it seems like I heard Derrick Carter lost his house/record
collection to a fire a few years back. Anyone know about this or am I
dreaming this up?



might have been derrick as well but i remember Maurice Fulton losing 
his whole collection a coupla years back.


also happened to charlie hall (drum club/projex) a few years back too.

i shudder to think how i'd feel if this happened to me

robin...



RE: (313) record insurance (OT)

2004-07-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alex

Mine are covered under my contents insurance.  Just so I'm sure about this I
send a letter to whoever my insurer is at the time specifying the contents
of my flat including £30K of records.  The insurers usually say they're only
interested in large individual value items being specified but I guess it
makes me feel there's less room for argument after if I've put it in writing
to them what they are supposed to be insuring.

Francis




RE: (313) record insurance (OT)

2004-07-01 Thread Rob Tyte
I insure mine through HSBC (yes, the bank). It's part of my house insurance 
which allows me to claim up to £50,000 worth of contents. I explained to them 
that if I sold them each (or had to buy them again) then it would cost me about 
£15,000. They asked if any one of them was worth more than £1000.00 on it's 
own. When I said no, they were happy to cover them for £15000 total on my 
opinion alone. The cost on this policy was £189.00/year.

However, Placid on this list... asked for a quote with a different post code 
and it was about £700.00/year So I guess you'll have to give them a call to 
find out how much it would cost where you live!

Hope this helps,

Rob.

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Subject:(313) record insurance (OT)

Hi

Do people insure their records?

If so, where? and does it cost alot?

My new house is wayyy too easy to break into for my liking, and I just know
one day I'm gonna catch some 12 yr old dangling half way outside my spare
room window with a load of records under his arm. (Probably before I get a
chance to insure them).

and, to be honest, they're about the only thing I own that is worth
anything.

That was a plus of living on the 11th floor. If some spiderman type could
climb 11 floors to get into my flat, he'd have been welcome to my chit.

any ideas?

sorry to be OT, I have no idea of who to ask though.

Thanks

Alex
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Re: (313) record insurance (OT)

2004-07-01 Thread alex . bond

thanks all, it's much appreciated.
I'm pretty clueless (and irresponsible I guess) about these sort of things.

ha ha, now I'll ask Rebecca to sort it out.

ho ho ho.
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RE: (313) record insurance (OT)

2004-07-01 Thread Adam Smith
>From what I understand they're covered by home owner's or renters insurance
policies, at least here in the states. Considered the same type personal
property as a mountain bike or television. I just added an extra $10K-20k to
my insurance policy regarding the total value of my personal property. This
is also where I find real value in having my collection listed in Discogs.
Hopefully no one ever has to experience this, but if there were a fire and
every piece of vinyl you owned went up in flames, then you have some type of
record/proof of what was lost. Of course you may not be able to recover out
of print titles, etc. but you could receive some type of financial benefit
by having insurance and a record/proof of what was lost. I am certainly no
expert on the subject though. I would highly recommend looking into it. We
work too hard to buy all these precious vinyls to have someone/thing take
them away so easily.

Speaking of, it seems like I heard Derrick Carter lost his house/record
collection to a fire a few years back. Anyone know about this or am I
dreaming this up?

Adam

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I would have thought that they were covered under house insurance. Mine are.

To be honest though, unless the burglar knew a)you had a load of records and
b) knew about records themselves it's unlikely that they'd steal them
because they're bulky and heavy. It's much more likely that they'll just
nick your electrical equipment.



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Sent: 01 July 2004 15:13
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) record insurance (OT)


Hi

Do people insure their records?

If so, where? and does it cost alot?

My new house is wayyy too easy to break into for my liking, and I just know
one day I'm gonna catch some 12 yr old dangling half way outside my spare
room window with a load of records under his arm. (Probably before I get a
chance to insure them).

and, to be honest, they're about the only thing I own that is worth
anything.

That was a plus of living on the 11th floor. If some spiderman type could
climb 11 floors to get into my flat, he'd have been welcome to my chit.

any ideas?

sorry to be OT, I have no idea of who to ask though.

Thanks

Alex
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Re: (313) record insurance (OT)

2004-07-01 Thread Nik
>> My new house is wayyy too easy to break into for my liking, and I just know
>> one day I'm gonna catch some 12 yr old dangling half way outside my spare
>> room window with a load of records under his arm. (Probably before I get a
>> chance to insure them).

So, where *is* your new house :)

Joking aside, a household contents insurance policy should cover it. You would 
need to be aware of whether they classify a collection of items as a 'single 
article' because your single article limit will probably be less than the sum 
total of your records. The other thing to do is take photographic evidence of 
your collection which you can present in the case of the claim.

What Toby says about a burglar not bothering to nick them due to size/weight is 
true. However, if someone is prepared to break into your house then you have to 
figure that they may also trash whatever they don't carry off.

Crime: together we'll crack it :)

N

P.S: Seriously, where do you live? Are you ever out for long periods during the 
day? What time would this be? Do you have a burglar alarm that I should know 
about?


Re: (313) record insurance (OT)

2004-07-01 Thread robin


yeah i'm the same...covered in the amount i insure in contents. it's 
fire and flood that i worry about not someone gathering boxes together 
and lugging vinyl down the street.


take pics of all the vinyl in it's racks tho as the insurance jokers 
won't believe you when you say you had 5000 bits of vinyl


be interesting to see if anyone has them more specifically insured, and 
whether this requires having a list of all your records.


robin...


On 1 Jul 2004, at 15:18, Toby Frith wrote:

I would have thought that they were covered under house insurance. 
Mine are.


To be honest though, unless the burglar knew a)you had a load of 
records and b) knew about records themselves it's unlikely that they'd 
steal them because they're bulky and heavy. It's much more likely that 
they'll just nick your electrical equipment.






RE: (313) record insurance (OT)

2004-07-01 Thread Toby Frith
I would have thought that they were covered under house insurance. Mine are.

To be honest though, unless the burglar knew a)you had a load of records and b) 
knew about records themselves it's unlikely that they'd steal them because 
they're bulky and heavy. It's much more likely that they'll just nick your 
electrical equipment.



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Subject: (313) record insurance (OT)


Hi

Do people insure their records?

If so, where? and does it cost alot?

My new house is wayyy too easy to break into for my liking, and I just know
one day I'm gonna catch some 12 yr old dangling half way outside my spare
room window with a load of records under his arm. (Probably before I get a
chance to insure them).

and, to be honest, they're about the only thing I own that is worth
anything.

That was a plus of living on the 11th floor. If some spiderman type could
climb 11 floors to get into my flat, he'd have been welcome to my chit.

any ideas?

sorry to be OT, I have no idea of who to ask though.

Thanks

Alex
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