Re: [abcusers] Keyboard layout
hello, if you're interested I may add this feature in JedABC. What OS are you using? Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Announcement: Making Music with ABC Plus online
Hello there, I've temporarily re-joined the list to announce that my new manual Making Music with ABC Plus is online. You can download the English and Italian versions from http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/. Many thanks to Norman Schmidt who helped me with the English version. The manual is released under the GNU GPL: feel free to share it with anyone. That said, please consider making a small donation, or at least a postcard... If you wish to make a translation, you're more than welcome: the LaTeX sources are there for you. Ciao a tutti, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] struck by enlightenment
Hello eveybody, last friday I was biking to the grocery store, when I was struck by a minor enlightenment experience. Suddenly, it occurred to me that I was making a mistake, one of the worst a computer scientist can ever make: duplication of effort. That is, there is no point maintaining Current state of ABC applications and Typesetting Music with ABC (soon to become Making Music with ABC Plus, with full abcMIDI support). Then it occurred to me that lately I'm neglecting some other important projects I'm working on in favour to ABC. Then again, that it's been a while since I last wrote a patch for other people's software. And I've put all my geology work on hold. In short, I'm devoting too much time to ABC. Therefore, it's time to take some time off: I'm going to unsubscribe from the list. I'd like to stress that I'm not slamming the door behind me: I simply prefer to employ my little spare time in other ways. You can contact me privately, but please note that I'm not going to work on ABC standards any more. Good luck to you all, and have a nice summer. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] (OT) about Turbo Pascal...
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: Beacuse it broke all possible Pascal standard in existance. Not at all. It was successful for a different reason entirely. only your opinion: there's a vast literature on the subject. It took ISO Pascal, smashed it to the ground, burnt it, turned it to ashes, spit on it, peed on the remains and the rain swept them away. Rubbish. Forgive me for being so abrupt but only in one area was TP not compliant with ISO pascal. (GOTOing out of a procedure was legal in ISO and has never been implemented to this day in Pascal or Delphi). - (opinion) I would appreciate it if you tried and be a little more polite. - (fact) the two of us were wrong when we referred to ISO Pascal; we should have talked of ANSI Pascal, or more precisely, ANSI/IEEE770X3.97-1983 Pascal. - (fact) I only have Turbo Pascal 4. Its manual (volume I, Appendix B) lists 21 exceptions and 28 extensions to ANSI Pascal. It should be enough to qualify Turbo Pascal as non-ANSI compliant. - (fact) there's a vast literature on the impact of Turbo Pascal on the market and on theoretical computer science. You may be interested to read what Professor Niklaus Wirth thought about Turbo Pascal. Please consider visiting the library nearest to you. - (opinion) in general, attaching a bit of doubt to one's statements is a good policy. Regards, Guido -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Added starter...
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was going to suggest that we add a new header field called K:) to contain key signatures whose use is limited to .073 percent of possible ABC users. (Yes, it DOES resemble a smiley face, and there may be a reason for that.) ...one of the best ever read on this list :- -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Revising the ABC standard.
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Barry Say wrote: How are we going to reach decisions on a new standard? I don't think we'll ever reach decisions this way. How come the proposal by Guido was suddenly expanded? because I got overwhelmed by Irwin's burning desire to revolutionise ABC, so I gave up... now I'm writing documents that concentrate on _existing_ extensions to the standard. And I'll keep contributing bug reports and bits of code here and there. Shall I now post my version on a website and call it revision IV? might as well do it. Are we going to vote? If so who votes?. very interesting question. Since ABC users are several thousands and members of this list only a few dozens (maybe), it would be fair/logical/democratic if someone set up a voting system on a well-known web page (ie, http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/index.html). It could contain questions like: Would you like the K: field to support ? [ ] yes [ ] no Could the u: field be removed from ABC?[ ] yes [ ] no and so on. This would give developers clear indications as of what the majority of users want. It goes without saying that if developers don't want to implement changes/new features, all this is void. Unfortunately, I can't write a line in PHP/Java/Perl, so I'm afraid I cannot add this voting page to my site. My .02 C. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Announcement: Current state of ABC online
Hello, I have released the first version of Current state of ABC, formerly known as A proposal for ABC extensions or what I called it. It's explicitely targeted at abcm2ps, abcMIDI, and BarFly. These are arguably the best ABC applications there are, but comments are welcome and I'm ready to include other programs - as long as you provide me with notes such as this will not work with XXX. This document _is not a standard draft_! It only deals with _implemented_ features that are not covered in 1.7.6, although I didn't include advanced abcm2ps features like staff breaking, multicolumn, etc. Also, abcMIDI coverage is incomplete. This guide is only useful to those who want to know what they can do in practice with ABC. Enjoy, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Announcement: Current state of ABC online
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote: Couple of things that caughed my attention: Field name header tune elsewhere Examples and notes I:information yesyesG:flute T:titlesecond yes yes M:3/4, M:4/4 I didn't find these examples very helpful... While you at it, please explain to me what is the use of the G: field? ooops - typo. Used by ABC database apps. \ continuation character; next w: field is part of the same line Barfly does not support this form: w: Sa-ys my au-l' wan to your aul' wan\ w: Will~ye come to the Wa-x-ies dar-gle? thanks. Too bad for barFly, it breaks 1.7.6. I'll add a note. In fact, the semantics of \ are now not portable at all. That was the main reason to completely redefine the continuation mechanism in the upcomming standard. that's only your opinion. Jean-François' implementation is consistent and works very well. I'm ready to change my mind when I see evidence that proves the contrary. These form won't be allowed in the new standard when the new standard becomes reality, and when applications support it, I'll modify the text. Remember: I only cover _existing_ implementations! !repeatbar! and !repeatbar2! are not implemented in abcm2ps, as far as I know. right, they're ignored. I'll add |/| and |//|. I would appreciate a more detailed explanation of the %% directives. I surely will, it's a very important topic to cover. Perhaps further explanation will not hurt. The whole point of my document, as opposed to yours, is: If I were the author of Finale, or Mozart, Sibelius NoteWorthy Whatever, and had to write an ABC export filter, what should I do? It cannot honestly be disputed that abcm2ps is one of the best music typesetters around, even beyond the ABC standard. Having worked with it and abcMIDI for quite a while, and having plugged the few holes using abcpp, I found myself making scores + MIDIs of medium-high complexity that some of my friends cannot make even with XXX and YYY (two commercial packages for Windows). (I cannot put them online, they're from copyrighted material.) I'm no longer interested in theory: _in practice_, abcm2ps and abcMIDI can replace commercial software that costs non negligible amounts of money. When other applications become as good as these two, I'll be happier than today. But _standards are less important than people's needs_. If good applications were forced to change, say, sensible (to classical musicians) keys like K:Gm to K:Gm ^f_B__d=A, I see no other option than ABC forking: official ABC for folk musicians, Bozo ABC (or whatever) for classical musicians. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Changing !..! to *..* or $..$ or ?..? or...
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Ray Davies wrote: be encouraged but not if it messes up the abc of the original folk users. I vote to change the !--! usage to *--* or some other unused symbol. good. Since breaking backwards compatibility with thousands of tunes is apparently no longer a problem, I vote to change 'A' 'B' 'C'... to 'LA' 'SI' 'DO' ... :-) Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Tom Keays wrote: on 7/28/03 2:55 PM, I. Oppenheim wrote: I hereby publicly release the third draft revision of the ABC 2.0 standard: http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/abc/abc2-draft.html I'm confused now. I thought Guido Gonzato was doing this. http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/abc2-draft.html for several reasons I decided to give up, and Irwin has taken over. I'm going to rename and change my old revised standard to make it something like, 'State of the art of current ABC implementations'. That is, I plan to document major existing extensions to the old 1.7.6 draft. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Anyone used u:?
Hello, as you know, Irwin Oppenheim and I are trying to put together a proposal for ABC 2 standard. I have a simple question: has anybody actually seen the u: (lowercase u) field in ABC files? We are considering whether leaving it out. Suggestions are highly appreciated. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Anyone used u:?
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: Hello, as you know, Irwin Oppenheim and I are trying to put together a proposal for ABC 2 standard. I have a simple question: has anybody actually seen the u: (lowercase u) field in ABC files? We are considering whether leaving it out. Suggestions are highly appreciated. Later, Guido =8-) You're going to have to remind us what u: does, I can find no mention of it... from the 1.7.6 draft: $ As a short cut to writing accents or other symbols which avoids the !symbol! $ syntax (see Accent above), the letters H-Z and h-w and the symbol ~ can be $ assigned with the U: and u: fields (the U: defines how the symbols are $ printed and the u: defines how they are played). Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Help - getting ABC files on BarFly
Hello, I need your help for a problem I just can't solve myself. I need to test lots of ABC files on major applications, and I have no problem when it comes to Linux or Windows ones. I also run BarFly under the BasiliskII Macintosh emulator (incredible piece of software, BTW). I can't convince BarFly to open ABC files that it didn't create itself. I mean, I download ABC collections from the net, put them in /tmp, access that directory and see the ABC files as feature-less icons. I can't open these file with BarFly, Note Pad, anything. Moreover, copy and paste between Linux and the BasiliskII box doesn't work. Is there a way to load external ABC files in BarFly? Thanks in advance, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Version 2.0.0 voice overlay and lyrics
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, John Fattaruso wrote: As someone primarily interested in typesetting choral music, I was very interested in the voice overlay capability with the '' syntax that emerged in abcm2ps some time ago. Many times in choral music we will have a vocal line splitting into two or three lines for only a few measures here and there, and abc shouldn't require defining a whole different voice for just those few measures. I did not see any mention of this capability in the new 2.0.0 standard, however. Maybe I missed it? in the draft proposal I published I decided to stick to feratures that are already implemented by major applications only. '' is a very useful feature (I'm a singer too), but AFAIK only abcm2ps supports it. Irwin Oppenheim has extended the draft proposal with a more aggressive stance, please wait while we're fixing it. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Use of ! (and another source issue)
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Jean-Francois Moine wrote: to me it seems OK: as long as major developers add this feature (and I imagine it's very easy to implement), I can see no reason not to include ` in the standard. Yes, very easy: I had to change only 3 characters in the parser... I was sure you would add it easily... Jef, you're great :-) Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] About the choice of '!'
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: Interestingly enough, I can't find any mention of the use of * for right justified line breaking in Guido's ABC 2.0 draft. This draft spec tentatively calls for the use of ! for this purpose. Probably because it wasn't in 1.x... whenever I considered adding a new feature in the draft, I turned my attention to stuff already implemented by important applications. Being '!' in abc2win, I supposed this was the way to go. It's also been added in abcm2ps, too, and I suppose more applications will follow suit. BTW - Jean-François, how do you tell whether '!' is a line break or the start of a decoration? Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Use of !
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, David Webber wrote: Forgive me if I have missed any other suggestion along the following lines but could we not define the syntax (something like) U:! newline U:! flag in the header to define whether ! means a newline or a !pp! type flag. This would enable different writer to use either convention for future abc files as they wish. One could be the default for the future (and I'd prefer the latter as it is more generally useful) but people should be encouraged to make it explicit either way. If absent, software would have to try and cope with a best guess. Just an idea. Guido? my opinion counts nothing, or at least much less than developers'. Apart from that, I think a better solution would be to consider '!' a newline if not followed by 0-9A-Za-z; a flag otherwise. From a developer's perspective, this should be very easy to implement. My .02! (newline) Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Tom Novelli wrote: P.S. I'm working on an Abc viewer for Linux/svgalib.. it could be adapted to Windows as a replacement for Abc2win - then there'd be no excuses :) To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html can't wait to see it... :-) Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Use of !
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, David Webber wrote: That doesn't work. Cf a new line of the form a b c d |!a b c d | right. But this is ugly syntax. Sooner or later, someone will have to say for goodness sake, Joe, when you write ABC remember that end-of-line bangs MUST be followed by a space (or whatever). If computer languages were as anarchist as ABC, we'd have a hard time convinging a computer do what we want, wouldn't we? :-) Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] random-access-like...
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Jack Campin wrote: Richard's tunebook is the only ABC file I've got on this machine that requires me to increase BarFly's memory allocation above the default (and it's very slow to load). This is the old Mac systems issue, is it, of having to specify memory for each program individually ? It's not a big problem for any modern machine. I think I could probably use your file as is even on my usual library-transcribing laptop (with all of 12Mb), but I try not to allocate more memory to programs than is strictly necessary. Richard's collection loads in no noticeable time using JedABC; and I can jump to whatever tune I want instantly. On a 400Mhz, 64 Mb RAM Celeron :-) Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Cleaning up ABC files?
Hello, I'm a bit fed up with hearing of broken / non-standard ABC collections. I'm ready to volunteer to fix some of them. I'm prepared to: - download collections distributed as single big ABC file - fix old-style + + chords - fix end-of-line bangs ! as far as it's possible - renumber all tunes in the collection if needed - send the fixed collection back to its maintainer. I'm not going to fix wrong ties (eg, e2-f) and in general all common errors I find browsing collections - unless I find a quick way to have abcpp do it. Is anyone interested? Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Fixing legacy ABC
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Richard Robinson wrote: It woul be a start. I fear the only real answer (or not even that) would be for some masochistic altruist^H^H^H^H wonderful person to write a Windows app providing similar functionality, to which people could be encouraged to upgrade in order to solve compatability problems. using abcpp I've fixed lots of legacy ABC files. It would be nice if there were a web-based translation service based on abcpp. I have no experience on writing web applets; any hints? Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] random-access-like...
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Richard Robinson wrote: It's kind of a propaganda/advocacy point rather than a technical details issue, but maybe it could do with at least being mentioned ? sure, I will. Given that ABC is tet-line-based, *can* a program go straight to a tune, random-access-like, without having read all the intervening lines ? random-access-like... yes, it's possible. My JedABC has an index mode that does what you want; so does BarFly in Split Screen Mode. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] abc2win vs. ABC...
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Iain (Jethro) Anderson wrote: I use this abc for obtaining, sending, transcribing and printing tunes - I use emacs/xemacs as editor with abc-mode and then to produce top quality printed music I use jcabc2ps - what is *wrong* with the abc2ps's ?? - I like to use software that does one job - but does it very, very well. nothing wrong: abcm2ps is one of my favourite pieces of software _ever_. In my view, it's so good and well thought-out that the standard should follow it closely. However, the ancestor abc2ps is painfully outdated; yet many people still use it - probably ignoring the existence of its successors. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Announcement: abcMIDI 2003-07-14 released
Hello, Seymour strikes again. His latest release of the fine abcMIDI suite is available as source from http://ifdo.pugmarks.com/~seymour/runabc/top.html, while binaries for Windows and Linux can be downloaded from http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/#abcMIDI%20binaries. Please help us find any remaining bugs. Enjoy, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online
Hello, for those interested, I have uploaded the A proposal for a new ABC 2.0.0 standard (rev. 14/7/2003) on my site. Have a look: http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/#ABC%20Plus%20draft It took me quite some time to get this unimpressive thing together, so please: * only constructive criticism please! * if you find a bug, please provide a fix and examples * many things are still missing, I know. I strived not to include application-dependent features (and it caused me pain: you know what I think) * small steps lead forward; giant leaps often make you stumble. Enjoy, and _please_ read it twice (at least) and count to 100 (at least) before flooding the list with your comments... Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] abcm2ps?
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003, Rickard Blixt wrote:
Hello,
I have tried to download abcm2ps, but it seems like I don't get any .exe file.
(This concerns the compiled, ready-for-Windows-version.)
Can anyone help me to get started?
this is what the archive abcm2ps-3.6.4.zip contains:
backup:[guido]$ unzip -l abcm2ps-3.6.4.zip
Archive: abcm2ps-3.6.4.zip
Length Date TimeName
165376 07-08-03 13:10 abcm2ps-3.6.4/abcm2ps.exe
17982 10-26-99 20:45 abcm2ps-3.6.4/License
12371 07-07-03 10:39 abcm2ps-3.6.4/Changes
1081 01-27-01 08:16 abcm2ps-3.6.4/INSTALL
193 01-18-03 14:10 abcm2ps-3.6.4/sample3.eps
12056 05-19-03 11:29 abcm2ps-3.6.4/deco.abc
1390 06-03-01 17:58 abcm2ps-3.6.4/journey.abc
2065 10-26-99 20:48 abcm2ps-3.6.4/mtunes1.abc
3825 09-14-01 18:11 abcm2ps-3.6.4/mtunes2.abc
3066 07-17-02 20:57 abcm2ps-3.6.4/newfeatures.abc
3501 11-22-02 10:24 abcm2ps-3.6.4/sample.abc
3725 05-20-02 09:18 abcm2ps-3.6.4/sample2.abc
2080 06-25-03 08:25 abcm2ps-3.6.4/sample3.abc
3030 11-26-02 17:07 abcm2ps-3.6.4/voices.abc
553 10-26-99 20:47 abcm2ps-3.6.4/fbook.fmt
59 10-26-99 20:47 abcm2ps-3.6.4/fonts.fmt
147 08-19-01 08:48 abcm2ps-3.6.4/landscape.fmt
812 10-26-99 20:49 abcm2ps-3.6.4/tight.fmt
32083 01-27-01 08:04 abcm2ps-3.6.4/abc-draft.txt
18318 06-29-03 16:47 abcm2ps-3.6.4/features.txt
16479 07-03-03 08:49 abcm2ps-3.6.4/format.txt
3677 07-03-03 08:41 abcm2ps-3.6.4/options.txt
---
303869 22 files
as you see, the first file is the binary you want.
http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/#abcm2ps%20binaries
Enjoy,
Guido =8-)
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Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: Good grief, is anyone ever going to put all this lot together? It's not in the official standard or the draft extension. How are developers supposed to work with this mish-mash? I missed this one (a single uppercase 'Z' meaning 1 measure rest), but a lot of information is contained in my 'Typesetting Music with ABC' (http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/#Typesetting%20Music%20with%20ABC). Incidentally, it's going to become 'Making Music with ABC' because I want to cover abcMIDI and BarFly. I'll add the 'Z' thing. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Announcement - abcpp 1.3.0 released
Hello, I have uploaded abcpp 1.3.0 to http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/#abcpp. It supports two new command switches: -b: remove single '!' -k: change single '!' to !break! this should be useful for 'fixing' abc2win files and make them compatible with bang-less applications. Enjoy, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] ABC examples with bang?
Hello, I've been unable to find ABC files with the much-talked-about bang (!) for breaking lines. Could any good soul send me some examples? It's for extending abcpp to deal with this beast. Thank you, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Was: Re: ABC examples with bang?
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Phil Taylor wrote: That's a classic example of everything we don't like about abc2win. The VMP files contain not only bangs, but every garbage variant of abc you can think of, and consequently are unusable to any other program unless you do a considerable amount of editing first. It's such a pity because the material is excellent. preprocessors exist because humans _must not_ bother with tedious work! I'm going to extend abcpp to make it possible to filter as much junk as possible out of ABC files. I suppose abcpp would be usable by a Web applet, so that people can fix broken ABC files via a webpage. Guido, if you want some abc tunes which contain bangs but are otherwise quite carefully transcribed, try Banoffi's site at: thank you! Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Announcement - abcpp 1.2.5 available
Hello all, I've just uploaded version 1.2.5 of the abcpp preprocessor. I have added the option of converting old-style chords (that is, '+' delimited) to 'normal' chords (bracket delimited). I found an old ABC file with such chords and couldn't typeset it. As soon as I get some sample ABC files with the infamous '!' end-of-line thing, I'll add the option of removing this painfully incompatible feature from the input. Grab sources and binaries for Linux and Windows from http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/index.html#abcpp Enjoy, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Modular ABC
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote: Application dependent meta information such as page width, font colour, midi track no could also be standardized, but in a meta standard that is separate and does not interfere with the abstract ABC standard. The ABC standard itself should only deal with purely musical elements. this the what I'm doing in the new draft I'm preparing! I kept musical information and low-level details completely separated. So, don't worry. Therefore I think the ABC standard should be highly modular; ABC software should be able to implement a minimal amount of ABC in a well defined way that is still standard compliant. The software developer is then able to clearly indicate which ABC modules are supported and which not. Stuff such as bagpipe notation, modal key signatures, microtonal accidentals, tablature support could go in separate modules that are optional. this is a _very_ sensible proposal! I'll keep to the basics for now, but I'll add a comment reporting your suggestion. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] codepages
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote: The ABC standard itself should make it possible to specify the code page in which the text inside the ABC tune is coded. It is probably safe to assume iso8859-1 (Latin-1) as default, if nothing is specified by the user. This way the user could also choose e.g. Unicode as codepage. Irwin, although I see your point I'm afraid I disagree with you. It looks like most users want to keep ABC and low-level details - especially computer-related details - completely separate. In the draft, I didn't mention codepages, iso and some such. I'm sure 95% of ABC users would not understand what it's all about. All I wrote is that ABC tunes are written using characters: A-Z, a-z, and some symbols. Everything outside this range is taken care in the 'Low-level details' section. Please wait for the draft... Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] About BarFly m: macros
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote:
m: ~n3 = n{o}n{m}n
Phil, thank you for sharing this, this is a wonderful
idea! I strongly suggest to include this mechanism in
the upcomming standard. Guido, what do you think?
My personl view is that extensions are always welcome if the make life
easier, but calling them 'standard' is only possible if/when they are
actually implemented by a large number of applications. Remember, I
believe in 'de facto' standards.
I think that m: is a wonderful and very useful extension to the standard,
but AFAIK BarFly is the only program that supports it. In my view, macros
shouldn't be part of the notation, and should be implemented using
external tools like preprocessors. But that's just an opinion. I think
I'll extend abcpp to add m: support.
That said, if all developers are willing to implement m: in their
programs, that't fine. Otherwise, abcpp will do the job for them.
Ciao,
Guido =8-)
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Re: [abcusers] Barfly on other platforms
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Jon Freeman wrote: I'd guess you are on Linux and don't know what could work with that but, with help from Phil Taylor, I did manage to get Barfly running on a Win PC using an emulator caled Executor. I liked it a lot - IMO, it's the best of the dedicated abc programs where you can type in the abc, see a score, play a tune (and do things like get a suggested mode/key) that I have tried. I wasn't prepared to pay $150 for the emulation software though and was limited to 1 month to try Barfly as a result. I use BarFly successfully on a wonderful, free emulator called BasiliskII which runs nearly everywhere. Please feel free to contact me for tips/suggestions. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Free notation program for Windows - let's write it...
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Donald White wrote: I am using runabc.tcl (or runabc.exe) on both my PC and on Linux as a front end to abcm2ps and gsview, and it is extremely easy to use. To a novice user, once it is setup, you hit display and it generates a pdf file directly and launches gsview32.exe (on Windows). I also used it, it's nice. I remind you that my JedABC, too, makes the dreaded command line invisible to the user! I think the biggest thing lacking on Windows is an open source graphical score editor. I use abcm2ps extensively for generating music for church, and I have a large library of ABC worhip music, but I can interest anyone else in learning the syntax and writing music in a text editor. I tried to convince Joerg Anders of NoteEdit fame to make a QT-only version of his wonderful program (this will make it possible to compile it under Windows), but unfortunately there are technical problems... too bad. Any talented programmer experienced with QT or FLTK...? Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] My point of view on the abc standard
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote: So, Jef and Guido, what do you think? Are you willing to discuss your ideas with us? I'll just give you my point of view. Since the latest draft three years ago, the so called 'committee' hasn't produced a single line of text; please correct me if I'm wrong. In the meantime, skilled developers like Jean-François quietly kept on working. As a result, we now have abcm2ps, which is arguably one of the best (_the_ best?) music typesetters on earth. Seymour Shlien has resumed working on the abcMIDI suite, adding many changes that make it more compatible with abcm2ps. Phyl Tailor enhanced his wonderful BarFly - too bad it's neither free nor multiplatform. On my part, I wrote abcpp which allows me to write portable ABC files; and managed to convince Joerg Anders to add ABC support in NoteEdit... We're almost there. I'm finishing a document I named A proposal of ABC 2.0.0 standard; it includes the latest 1.7.6 draft (verbatim), and adds the least common denominator of multivoice support, low level details (e.g. %%stuff), portability issues, some ABC examples, and so on. Then I point out that there are details that inherently only make sense in printed music, others in played music; I'm covering those too. I'm also working on extending my manual Typesetting Music wit ABC, that some of you liked so much - thank you for the nice words! - to change it so that it's called Writing Music with ABC. That is, I'm adding a second part covering playing ABC files in addition to typesetting them. In my humble opinion, when we have an ABC typesetting and an ABC player application that are powerful, free, multiplatform, and compatible with each other, we automatically have a 'de facto' standard. At that point, other applications will have better try and follow the new standard for their own good. I'll say that again, we are almost there! Seymor is working on some details I reported to him; when he's done, abcm2ps and abc2midi will support virtually the same ABC (2?) syntax. To sum up, call me the coordinator if you wish; but bear in mind that you're free to toss my work and dedication out of the window if you wish, I'll not get upset. I just believe that with a bit of coordination - I did nothing more than this - we'll soon have the new standard. My .02 Ec. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] About the ABC home page
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Bert Van Vreckem wrote: Indeed. Guido, what do you think of this? If you want I can give you Admin permissions for the abc project. At least part of your abcplus project would fit nicely in the abc project if the new standard kicks off. I should also have some time in the near future to update the webpage unless anyone else feels an uncontrollable urge... ;-) it looks like some people are already inclined to call me the president... please wait! You still have to read what I'm writing. Then we'll have to discuss some points, I suppose; make changes, additions, you'll call me names :-), etc. I find it interesting what some people pointed out: that is, that a developer (say, Jean-François) should not be the coordinator beacuse of conflict of interest. We Italians are well aware of this problem... (look at that [EMAIL PROTECTED] of our [EMAIL PROTECTED]@!! prime minister, Berlusconi). While I personally think that Jean-François is so smart, so kind, and has so much common sense that he could be a perfect coordinator, I also realise that he's really busy coding his programs. I'm neither a talented programmer nor a great musician. All I can say is that I always struggled to keep ABC developers in contact, writing suggestions for improving compatibility; I study lots of different music examples to try and figure out new ABC implementations. And I do all this beacuse I believe that ABC makes the world a better place. So, please wait for the new ABC 2 proposal; I'm probably going to publish it next week. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Catering for ABC Windows users
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Bert Van Vreckem wrote: Good point. While Guido's abc manual deserves all the praise it gets, it is rather Linux-centric. But Guido is a Linux man, so perhaps someone else should write a section on how to set up abc under Windows. I use sorry, but... my guide is admittedly abcm2ps-centric, but makes no difference between Windows and Linux. For example, in Section 1.5 I explain how to install the tools under Windows and Linux. Some people wrote me to suggest that I should make a self-contained installation program for Windows that includes everything one needs: typesetter, player, editor, preprocessor. As soon as we have the next stable releases of abcm2ps abc abcMIDI, I'll be happy to oblige. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote: I prefer typing [\'a] over [aacute;] If you prefer the latter, why not write a preprocessor that converts it back to \'a it already exists, I wrote it: abcpp (http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/#abcpp) But it's much simpler to use TeX-like sequences. IMHO. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] ABC 1.7 standard?
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote: I agree entirely. Jef and Guido, are you willing to take this noble task upon you? I vote for you! I (Guido) agree. It's a sweet burden... Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote: This should also be addressed in the upcomming ABC standard... I have already written a paragraph about it. To use accented letter, type the following: \`a = a with grave \'a = a with acute \a = a with umlaut \^o = o with circumflex \~n = n with tilde \,c = c with cedilla and many others. A more complete list will be available in the upcoming ABC 2.0.0 draft. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Drum notation
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, janus meuris wrote: But I recently ran into a problem, and I found no cure for it in any doc I found : I need to write drum partitions (notes,clefs,-...) , and found nothing to do it. I found out (due to the Noteedit discussions) that Noteedit has the features to do it, but can it be done in abcm2ps, and if not, can it be added ? I didn't look into the code yet, so perhaps I should look for drummer notes code. as of version 3.6.1, abcm2ps has limited drum support. If you can write code, I strongly suggest that you contact Jean-François Moine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to help him add drum notation to abcm2ps. PS : I'm using the 'stable' version abcm2ps-2.11.3 (May 5, 2002) and I see no real reason to go to version 3 yet. Or is there one ?? well, that depends on your needs. The 3.x.y series has far more features than 2.11.3, and I need these, but if 2.11.3 fits the bill for you... as they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Announcement: NoteEdit 2.2.2 released
Hello, release 2.2.2 is out, featuring many bugfixes and enhancements in ABC export. The sources and RedHat RPMs (in a couple of days) are available from http://tan.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/~jan/noteedit/noteedit.html Test and enjoy! Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] abcm2ps
On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Forgeot Eric wrote: When I used abcm2ps for viewing the note, I realized there isn't in the standard, nor in abcm2ps (it seems) an option to avoit printing / displaying a part. I think it would be relevant with the %%staves option abcpp is there to help you! Have a look at the attached score, which contains abcpp directives to exclude voices when needed. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri Riu.abp.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data
[abcusers] Big news - Note Editor does ABC!
Hello, at last I managed to convince Joerg Anders to include ABC support in his wonderful Note Editor (http://tan.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/~jan/noteedit/noteedit.html)!!! There you are some excerpts from our email exchange: On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, Guido Gonzato wrote: I'm very happy you're considering ABC support!!! :-))) Yes, but I found still a serious problem: You cannot build tuplets over different long note groups: X: 1 K: C % key signature L: 1/4 % default length E (3FG A A A | E (3A3/2A/2 E A | ^ ^ neither so | nor so | This circumvents all swing music :-( that's an idea for extensions. Developers, what do you think? On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Guido Gonzato wrote: oh my gosh - thank you!!! I'll test it as thoroughly as I can. May I write to the ABC users mailing list to announce this prerelease? Yes, if some of them want to help to test the ABC export. But please don't forget to mention: It is a pre-release! Talk about the restrictions! Restrictions: On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Guido Gonzato wrote: This circumvents all swing music :-( I'll report this to the two main developers and I'll get it added; it shouldn't be hard to implement. I'll let you know. If you like: On: http://rnvs.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/~jan/note_pre/note_pre.html there is a noteedit-2.2.0 preview which exports already a lot of elements to ABC music. Perhaps you have some annotations. Notes and Rests and keysigs and timsigs including chords, slurs, ties, multiple voices should work. The same holds for all bars types. Also: equality tuplets should work. Avoid clef, key signature and time signature changes! so, please go download and try it out! To export to ABC, select File/Output Params... then choose the ABC Music tab. Today I'll put RPMs of this preliminary NoteEdit version on my page, http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/ Many many thanks to Joerg Anders!!! Have a good weekend, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers]quest - compiling abcm2ps on Mac
On Wed, 28 May 2003, John Chambers wrote: | Do you see anything else? My jcabc2ps clone has a flock of little extensions. The biggie is John, what you wrote is really mouth-watering... I hope Jean-François will manage to include most (if not all) of your extensions. I've been waiting for years to see the merge of existing abc2ps clones. It looks like the time has come at last. God bless you! Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Request for aliases for notes.
On Sat, 5 Apr 2003, Ananda Murthy R S wrote: Hello: In Indian music we use Sa, Re, Ga, Ma, Pa, Dha, Ni instead of CDEFGAB. Is it possible to provide an aliasing command so that we can use SRGMPDN instead of CDEFGAB. If this is possible, then, it would be of great advantage to notate Indian music. do you know abcpp? You may use definitions like these in your ABC file: #define SA C #define sa c #define RE D #define re d ... then write the rest of your ABC files like this: SAREGAMA|SA/SA/ GA/GA/ PA/PA/ sa| ... if this is too unconfortable, I'l be happy to add a new feature to JedABC so that you type 'S' and get 'C', 'R' - D, and so on. Namaste', Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] going to hospital
Hello, I'm going to hospital to have my nose operated on, so I'll be away for at least a couple of weeks. Ciao a tutti, see you soon, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] re : ANNOUNCEMENT - Typesetting Music with ABC available
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Jack Campin wrote: ...but *please* include a warning that this is not ABC and should not be allowed to escape to anywhere that somebody might pick it up under the impression it was. Package-specific hacks involving %% lines are okay, this is something different and will confuse the hell out of almost all ABC software available. I surely will. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] re : ANNOUNCEMENT - Typesetting Music with ABCavailable
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Forgeot Eric wrote: A little comment : In page 16 : Do not mistake chords for something completely different! If you want to get something like this: /.../ these are not chords, but different voices on the same staff. This will be the subject of Section 4. Now it's possible to achieve this with abcm2ps : X:1 T:test M:4/4 L:1/8 [c2e3] B2 e [A2c4] G2 | I don't think you talk about that in your manual (this *very* nice feature helped me much when I was reluctant to write a new voice for only 2 notes in such a chord) this is the first useful suggestion - I'll add a section about this subject. Thanks, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] abcm2ps and EPS
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Forgeot Eric wrote: So, my question is what kind of application can I use in order to include a proper eps image in an abc file ? I used xfig under Linux. It seems to produce very compact EPS files. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Forgeot Eric wrote: Hello, it's still a work in progress, but you can look at : http://anamnese.online.fr/abc/renaissance_fonts.html that's _very_ nice - if you need assistance converting your existing font into PostScript, feel free to contact me. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, John Walsh wrote: Is there documentation that explains abc2ps fonts and how to write them, or is this something one should learn by reading the code? I I'm going to release the English version of my manual today. It contains a section about using non-standard fonts with abcm2ps (many thanks to Eric Forgeot for the information he sent me). Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] ANNOUNCEMENT - Typesetting Music with ABC available
Hello there, a very kind chap, Norman Schmidt, helped me translate the missing parts. Now the English translation of my Creare spartiti con ABC is available from http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/ The manual is freely available under the GNU GPL license. That said, if you think it's useful to you a small donation would be highly appreciated. I rely on your feedback for corrections, additions, observations and so on. Enjoy, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
Hello, with very little effort, abcm2ps could typeset scores using Renaissance-style notes; that is, those fancy square or diamond-shaped notes. To this end, we'd need two things: 1) disable the proportional spacing of notes. This probably calls for a new abcm2ps %%command and/or command-line option, which I cannot implement. I'm sure that Jean-François would be kind as usual :-) 2) new note shapes, which I could easily write as new PostScript routines. As a matter of fact, I don't have much time and I would't start this new task unless someone's interested. So, my question is: does anybody want this feature? Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Christian M. Cepel wrote: Are shapenotes Renaissance? I thought they went back to plainchant notation. (this is probably why I only barely passed Music history last sem and prolly won't this sem) AFAIK, plain chant used several types of neumes, i.e. the square neumes on a four-line staff still used for Gregorian chant. I came across many examples of Renaissance sheet music written with shapenotes. I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure that music was written that way. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Adding PostScript fonts?
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Forgeot Eric wrote: oups, it seems I forget to post this one after typing it... If you're using ghostscript... you put in /fonts/ your new fonts (ex : Hansagotisch.pfb, maybe there are also other definitions, I wow, that looks GREAT! BTW, it's amazing how you guessed the type of font I meant to install. Thank you very much, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] about Signore delle cime
On 10 Feb 2003, Alain Henry wrote: I'm sorry about my quick typing. here is a corrected version, with the two verses we sing. The score is adapted (simplified) for our choir, using some notes from the tenor line when bass is too high. Thus this is not the true bass. Also I have problems with the second sentence of the second verse. Number os syllables does not match well the score. You can hear it live at the web site of the Italian Alpine Army Corps (hope i translate well from my French) right, the Alpini. I too served as an Alpino in the Army! Guido, I'd be happy for a translation in English, and thanks for the explanations. er... if I'm not asking for too much, I'd like to post all parts... then I'll do the job of translating and documenting the tune. I'll eventually publish it (_only_ with your permission) on my abcplus page. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] about Signore delle cime
On 9 Feb 2003, Alain Henry wrote: Example from one of the piece sung at my choral X:1 T:Signore delle cime - basse M:4/4 L:1/4 Q:100 K:G clef=bass octave=-1 G2 G G | F2 F3/2 F/2 | E E E E | B,2 B,2 | C2 D D | w: Di-o del cie-lo, Si-tgno-re del-le ci-me, un no stroa G2 G F | A, A, A, A, | B,2 B,2 | E2 E E | A,2 A,2| w: mi-co hal chie-stoal-la mon-ta-gna. Ma Ti pre-ghia-mo, F2 F F | B,2 (B, A,) | G G E E | B,2 B,2 | C C D D | G2 G2 | w: ma ti pre-ghia-mo:_ su nel pa-ra-di-so, su nel pa-ra-di-so C2 C C | B,2 E2 | C C D D | D4 | (G,4 | G,2) z2 | w: la-seia-loan-da-re per le tue mon-ta_-gne._ this seems truly amazing to me - Signore delle cime crossed the (presumably northern) Italian borders and is sung somewhere else! Do you know what this song is all about? It's a mountain mourning song, often sung at funerals when somebody dies in a mountain accident. It's extremely popular over here in northern Italy. Sadly, I had to sing it when a friend of mine died at 19 falling from a cliff. Also, I personally met the author, Maestro Bepi De Marzi, a famous choir conductor. The excerpt you sent to the list contains spelling mistakes. I'd be very grateful if you sent all parts to the list; I'd correct the Italian text and add an English translation. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
RE: [abcusers] online abc previewer
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Wil Macaulay wrote: Actually, I just built abcm2ps for Mac OSX - it compiled without any changes. However I no longer have a development system for OS 9. If anyone is interested I can make it available yes, you could send it to me and I'll make it available at the abcplus site. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Any chance of print outs in bass clef?
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, John Chambers wrote: Alain Henry wrote: | X:1 | T:Signore delle cime - basse | M:4/4 | L:1/4 | Q:100 | K:G clef=bass octave=-1 (snip) I've seen that octave=-1 notation, but I haven't implemented it, because I don't understand it. Anyone know what it means, and what programs implement it? it's used by abc2midi to produce notes an octave lower. The latest abcm2ps accepts this extension and just ignores it. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Adding PostScript fonts?
Hello all, I use abcm2ps but my question is applicable to all ABC to PostScript converters. We all know that PostScript has those nice 35 fonts, which ought to be enough for everybody. But what if I wanted to use some other weird font? So, I'd like to know: 1) is it possible to add a new font to GhostScript, and how? 2) how can *abc*2ps use this new font, if at all possible? Thanks, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] 8va notation, abcm2ps
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Christopher Myers wrote:
Does anybody know how (if possible) to put octave notation, e.g.
8va basso - - - - - -
into abc so that abcm2ps can render it? I tried making it lyrics, and
that didn't quite look right, as it tried to line up each word with
the notes above, and I don't need that to happen, obviously.
I'm rendering a 4 part score (fife quartet) and usually, the 8va basso
is understood for the bottom part, but I want to remove any ambiguity.
I'm not really sure what you mean. I suppose the 8va basso - - - - - -
indication that is found on some piano scores, which denotes that a
certain number of notes are to be played an octave lower.
Abcm2ps doesn't have this indication, but it's really easy to add it using
the existing 8va new decoration (see deco.abc) as template. Try this:
% octava.abc -*- Abc -*-
%
% This file provides a few decorations for abcm2ps
%
% (from Jean-Francois Moine)
% -- draw octava indication
%%postscript /eoct {
%%postscriptM 0 6 rlineto currentpoint stroke M
%%postscript[6] 0 setdash 30 add 0 rlineto currentpoint stroke M
%%postscript[] 0 setdash 0 -6 rlineto stroke
%%postscript } bdef
%%postscript /octava { % usage: len x y octava
%%postscriptexch -9 add exch 2 copy
%%postscriptM 0 10 rmoveto /Times-Roman 16 selectfont (8) show
%%postscript/Times-Roman 12 selectfont (va) show eoct
%%postscript } bdef
% -- start / stop of octava indication
%%deco 8( 5 - 24 0 0
%%deco 8) 5 octava 24 0 0
%
%%postscript /octavab { % usage: len x y octavab
%%postscriptexch -9 add exch 2 copy
%%postscriptM 0 10 rmoveto /Times-Roman 16 selectfont (8) show
%%postscript/Times-Roman 12 selectfont (va) show
%%postscript/Times-Roman 16 selectfont ( bassa) show eoct
%%postscript } bdef
% -- start / stop of octava bassa indication
%%deco 8b( 5 - 24 0 0
%%deco 8b) 5 octavab 24 0 0
%
%%postscript /octavaa { % usage: len x y octavaa
%%postscriptexch -9 add exch 2 copy
%%postscriptM 0 10 rmoveto /Times-Roman 16 selectfont (8) show
%%postscript/Times-Roman 12 selectfont (va) show
%%postscript/Times-Roman 16 selectfont ( alta) show eoct
%%postscript } bdef
% -- start / stop of octava alta indication
%%deco 8a( 5 - 24 0 0
%%deco 8a) 5 octavaa 24 0 0
%
%%postscript /coctavaa { % usage: len x y coctavaa
%%postscriptexch -9 add exch 2 copy
%%postscriptM 0 10 rmoveto /Times-Roman 16 selectfont (con 8) show
%%postscript/Times-Roman 12 selectfont (va) show
%%postscript/Times-Roman 16 selectfont ( alta) show eoct
%%postscript } bdef
% -- start / stop of con octava alta indication
%%deco c8a( 5 - 24 0 0
%%deco c8a) 5 coctavaa 24 0 0
%
%%postscript /coctavab { % usage: len x y coctavab
%%postscriptexch -9 add exch 2 copy
%%postscriptM 0 10 rmoveto /Times-Roman 16 selectfont (con 8) show
%%postscript/Times-Roman 12 selectfont (va) show
%%postscript/Times-Roman 16 selectfont ( bassa) show eoct
%%postscript } bdef
% -- start / stop of con octava bassa indication
%%deco c8b( 5 - 24 0 0
%%deco c8b) 5 coctavab 24 0 0
X: 1
T: Prova
M: 4/4
L: 1/4
K: C
%
!8b(!CDE!8b)!D|ECED|!8a(!ECE!8a)!D|EFAA|
!8(!BBC!8)!c|debd|bcbd|bdcc|
!c8b(!CDE!c8b)!D|ECED|ECED|EFAA|
!c8a(!BBC!c8a)!c|debd|bcbd|bdcc|
Needless to say, abc2midi will not be able to use these new decos.
If this is what you meant, I'm happy.
Ciao,
Guido =8-)
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Re: [abcusers] 8va notation, abcm2ps
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Christopher Myers wrote: * I can make notation that looks like this: ___|)__ |___/___ |__/|___ |_/(|,\_ |_\_|_/_ | (_| 8 by simply putting K:treble-8 but the 8 is too small for my taste. Perhaps I'm being too much of a perfectionist here, but if there's a way to do what I want, I'd very much like to try. being a perfectionist is the engine of civilization (sometimes...) well, I have found a quick solution that involves a minor modification to the source. Grab the abcm2ps source archive, unpack it, then edit the file draw.c. At line 2619, you'll read: PUT2(/Times-Roman 10 selectfont %.1f %.1f M (8) show\n, x, y); all you have to do is change this line as: PUT2(/Times-Roman 16 selectfont %.1f %.1f M (8) show\n, x, y - 3); then run ./configure, make, and make install as usual. I suppose Jean-François will find a way to make it possible to customise even this small detail... or I'll see to it. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Merry Christmas
There you are a beautiful, nearly unknown Christmas song. It's especially dear to me beacuse I used to sing it as a lullaby to my newborn baby boy, two years ago. The Italian lyrics are very poetic, I tried to translate them decently. X: 1 T: Coro della notte T: (The Night Chorus) C: Pietro Alessandro Yon (1866 - 1943) M: 4/4 L: 1/4 Q: Largo 1/4 = 50 %%staves [1 2 3 4] V: 1 clef=treble name=Soprano V: 2 clef=treble name=Alto V: 3 clef=treble-8 name=Tenor V: 4 clef=bass name=Bass %%MIDI program 1 54 %%MIDI program 2 54 %%MIDI program 3 54 %%MIDI program 4 54 K: D % [V: 1] |: FF z/F/ G/F/|[M:3/4]EF2|AA A/A/|[M:2/4](c/B) _B/| [V: 2] |: DD z/D/ D/D/|[M:3/4]CD2|FF F/F/|[M:2/4]^EE | w: Dor-mi, ch\'e su te ve-glia gi\'a tut-to il Pa-ra- [V: 3] |: AA z/A/ B/A/|[M:3/4]AA2|dd d/d/|[M:2/4](d c/)c/ | [V: 4] |: dd z/d/ d/d/|[M:3/4]Ad2|dd d/d/|[M:2/4]GG | % [V: 1] [M:3/4]AA2|[M:4/4]GG z/F/ G/A/ |[M:3/4]GFA | [V: 2] [M:3/4]FF2|[M:4/4]EE z/^D/ E/E/|[M:3/4]=DDA| w: di-so; dor-mi, ti splen-de~in vi-so un [V: 3] [M:3/4]dd2|[M:4/4]BB z/B/ B/c/ |[M:3/4]BAd | [V: 4] [M:3/4]dd2|[M:4/4]ee z/B/ e/A/ |[M:3/4]ddf | % [V: 1] cA B/F/ |A3|[M:4/4]FF z/F/ G/F/|[M:3/4]EF2| [V: 2] ^GF F/D/ |E3|[M:4/4]DD z/D/ D/D/|[M:3/4]CD2| w: rag-gio tut-to d'or. Dor-mi, dor-mi Fan-ciul-lo, [V: 3] cc d/B/ |c3|[M:4/4]AA z/A/ B/A/|[M:3/4]AA2| [V: 4] ^ef d/=e/|A3|[M:4/4]dd z/d/ d/d/|[M:3/4]Ad2| % [V: 1] AA A/A/|[M:2/4](c/B) _B/|[M:3/4]AA2| [V: 2] FF F/F/|[M:2/4]^EE |[M:3/4]FF2| w: ri-po-sa il cor-po san-to; [V: 3] dd d/d/|[M:2/4](dc/)c/ |[M:3/4]dd2| [V: 4] dd d/d/|[M:2/4]GG |[M:3/4]dd2| % [V: 1] [M:4/4]GG z/F/ G/A/ |[M:3/4]BBc|(dc/=c/ B/_B/| [V: 2] [M:4/4]EE z/^D/ E/F/|[M:3/4]GGA|A2G | w: lie-ve, lie-ve ti cul-lo col fre-sco [V: 3] [M:4/4]BB z/B/ B/d/ |[M:3/4]dde|d2d | [V: 4] [M:4/4]ee z/B/ e/=d/|[M:3/4]ggg|f2g | % [V: 1] AA z/G/ |F3 :|[M:4/4]z3 z/A,/|FF z/F/ G/F/| [V: 2] F/D/ E z/C/ |D3 :|[M:4/4]z3 z/A,/|DD z/D/ D/D/| w: mi - o re-spir. In al-to un che-ru- [V: 3] (d/B/) c z/A/|A3 :|[M:4/4]z3 z/A/ |AA z/A/ B/A/| [V: 4] aaA |d3 :|[M:4/4]z3 z/A/ |dd z/d/ d/d/| % [V: 1] [M:3/4]EF2|AA A/A/|[M:2/4](c/B) _B/| [V: 2] [M:3/4]CD2|FF F/F/|[M:2/4]^EE | w: bi-no tra-e da-la ce-tra [V: 3] [M:3/4]AA2|dd d/d/|[M:2/4](dc/)c/ | [V: 4] [M:3/4]Ad2|dd d/d/|[M:2/4]GG | % [V: 1] [M:3/4]AA2|[M:4/4]G/G/ F^Ac|[M:3/4]dB z/B/ | [V: 2] [M:3/4]FF2|[M:4/4]E/E/ CFF |[M:3/4]FG z/G/ | w: d'o-ro un ac-cor-do di-vi-no per [V: 3] [M:3/4]dd2|[M:4/4]B/B/ ^AcA|[M:3/4]Bd z/d/ | [V: 4] [M:3/4]dd2|[M:4/4]e/e/ fff |[M:3/4](b/a/)g z/g/| % [V: 1] Azz |A/G/ FE |F3|] [V: 2] Fzz |EDC |D3|] w: te, san-to Pa-stor. [V: 3] (d/e/d/c/d/B/)|(c/B/) AA|A3|] [V: 4] azz |AAA |d3|] % W: Sleep, the Heavens are watching over you. W: Sleep, your face brights with a golden ray of light. W: Sleep, sleep Baby, let your sacred body rest; W: Gently, I gently rock you with my fresh breath. W: Above, an angel plays his golden harp W: he plays divine chords for you, o sacred Shepard. Merry Christmas to all and your families. Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] abc drum notation and abc2ps
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Christopher Myers wrote: 1) Can I use an X for a note head? no, unless you redefine the PostScript code that draws noteheads. If you can't do it yourself, I may consider experimenting - but don't hold your breath. 2) Can I put multiple slashes across the stem of a note? (I think that's no, unless you write an ad-hoc PostScript routine. As above... 3) Can I render a grace note without the tie? (That's a 'flam'). yes, using the %%graceslurs 0 command in the ABC source, or the -G 0 switch in the abcm2ps command line. I'm sure there are other things too, but those are the biggies the Drum Sergeant came up with last night. Thanks in advance! that's all right. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] JedABC
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Eduardo Gallego wrote: I've a question: do you know if somebody has ported JedABC (and the subsequent programs) to OS X? If not I'll try and if I succeed will tell you something. JedABC will run on all platforms where the Jed editor runs, with no modifications. I gather from the Jed home page (http://space.mit.edu/~davis/jedsoft/jed/) that a port to Mac OS X doesn't exist yet. Being OS X a Unix-ish OS, compiling Jed shouldn't be a problem though. If you can compile on your machine, please do: you'll be able to use JedABC, and will have the opportunity to contribute a Jed binary package to the author of Jed. Please let me know. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] new abcpp release
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Bert Van Vreckem wrote: Guido Gonzato wrote: Hello, I have released version 1.2.2 of the abcpp preprocessor. Changes include: Damn! And I only just downloaded and installed 1.2.1 yesterday! ;-) Great program, by the way. Is the fact that preprocessor directives start with a # intentional? If I designed it, I would probably have made them start with %%, the traditional way of writing `special' comments in abc... I intentionally designed it using '#' as it's standard for preprocessors. I'm glad you like it, but please don't call it a great program... ;-) it's just a quick hack that shows how limited a programmer I am. All other ABC packages are great programs, IMO! Thank you for your interest, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] new abcpp release
Hello, I have released version 1.2.2 of the abcpp preprocessor. Changes include: - the ability to define empty macros, i.e. #ifdef MIDI #define L16 [L:1/16] #else #define L16 #endif - Italian documentation. abcpp is free software released under the GPL. Source and binaries for Linux and Windows can be downloaded from http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/#abcpp. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] jcabc2ps source?
Hello, I'd like to provide Win32 binaries for jcabc2ps, and I've been trying to download the source from Sourceforge. No way. I've also searched on Google - nothing. I'm not prepared to waste more than 40 seconds on this... Could anyone point me to the sources? I'll make the binaries available on the abcplus page. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] a request to talented programmers
Well, I think you did not look carefully at my home page ;). Did you ever try 'tclabc'? Indeed, the job goes slowly, because abcm2ps eats most of my time, but this tools should offer you quite the same features as noteedit or rosegarden, with only the simple Tk graphic library. yes, I did check out! The thing is, I can't compile tclabc because my development machine has a half-working sound card. /dev/sequencer doesn't work, which means that I have serious problems with MIDI in general. And my boss will not buy me a new PC... Thanks, Guido =8-) To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] about the GPL
On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, John Chambers wrote: Anyway, you can read lots about this at fsf.org and gnu.org. To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html excellent and very clear explanation! Thank you. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] a request to talented programmers
hello, Windows users have this little gem called NoteWorthy Player (http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/player/), a brilliant MIDI player that also shows the music notation. AFAIK, such a tool is not available to Linux users, and an equivalent Windows program which is open source doesn't exist either. Isn't there a talented programmer who would like to write a program like this? Needless to say, it should also be able to save the music in ABC format. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] a request to talented programmers
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Laurie (ukonline) wrote: Do you explicitly require that it plays music that is in NWC format? no, I don't think it's important; just MIDI. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] a request to talented programmers
On 8 Jul 2002, Laura Conrad wrote: are a couple of possibilities. Have you looked at Rosegarden? It's not perfect as a MIDI player, but it does play MIDI and show notation. Noteedit is more of a notation editor than a MIDI player, but it's a good program, and does import MIDI files. I haven't had a look at Rosegarden for a while, and I'm compiling it right now. Too bad it doesn't support ABC. Thanks for the tip, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] ABC on a PDA
On 3 Jul 2002, Laura Conrad wrote: Has anyone done this, and do they have any tips for getting used to typing ABC on that keyboard? I did a test file this morning, and I believe I can eventually get used to the split keyboard, but the caps lock shifting the numbers, and the distance some of the symbols ABC uses are from the home typing position seem pretty wierd. I was assuming I would just do the proofreading when I get back to the desktop, but if anyone has a good setup for entering and also checking the ABC, I'd be happy to hear about it. Hello Laura, I've transcribed some short tunes with my Palm. I'm using PalmABC without an external keyboard, and IMHO it's simply a pain. It's *very* slow, compared to a real keyboard. I have tried to come up with some ideas, but unless someone writes a dedicated editor for PDAs I don't think there are alternatives. Just my experience, I'm sorry I can't help you out. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Announce: new ABC manual
On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Henrik Norbeck wrote: Ma é molto interessante leggere un manuale di abc in italiano! Cosí posso imparare come tradurre parole musicali in italiano. Io non posso tradurre in inglese adesso, perché ho un bambino di due mesi, e non c'é molto tempo per altre cose. Ma, Guido, penso che il tuo inglese sia meglio che il mio italiano... EH? Che sorpresa, what a surprise! Il tuo italiano e' assolutamente perfetto! Your Italian is spotless! Never mind not being able to give me a hand, I too have a little kid and I know what it means :-))) One page per day or so, I'm slowly translating the manual. It may be ready before the end of the summer. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Announce: new ABC manual
On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Ulf wrote: Excellent work !!! Congratulations! I'll stick to the Italian version. It is extremely easy to understand. You are a most skilful teacher. thank you so much, Ulf. I hope people will like the English version when it's ready. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Announce: new ABC manual
Hello, I have nearly finished a new manual: Typesetting Music with ABC, preliminary version available in PDF format from http://abcplus.sourceforge.net. I usually write my stuff in English, but this guide is written in Italian. Therefore, it won't be much useful to English speakers; however, an English version is in the works. If anyone can help me translate the guide into English, please contact me. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Announce: JedABC v. 1.9.0 available
Hello, I have released version 1.9.0 of Jed ABC. This release features improvements in the documentation, minor bugfixes, and the ability to extract a voice using the new external filter abc2prt. Get it from http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/ I hope you'll like it. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Otche Nash
There you are. Sorry for not providing the original Russian lyrics, but writing them is way beyond my ability. Also, if you have suggestions about better ways to transcribe the Russian lyrics into our alphabet, I'll be glad to accept them. % Otche_Nash.abp -*- abc -*- % % Written for Jean-François Moine's abcm2ps, % http://moinejf.free.fr, http://abcplus.sourceforge.net % % Edited by Guido Gonzato [EMAIL PROTECTED], 24 June 2002 % Typeset with: abcm2ps -c -O= Otche_Nash.abp % %%pageheight 29.7cm %%pagewidth 21cm %%topspace 0cm %%topmargin 1cm %%botmargin 0cm %%leftmargin 1cm %%rightmargin1cm %%titlespace 0cm %%titlefont Times-Bold 24 %%subtitlefont Times-Bold 16 %%composerfont Times 12 %%vocalfont Times-Roman 14 %%partsfont Times-BoldItalic 13 %%lineskipfac0.8 %%textspace 1cm %%staffsep 2cm %%sysstaffsep1cm %%musicspace 1cm %%vocalspace 0.5cm %%measurebox 1 %%measurenb 0 %%scale 0.7 X: 1 T: Otce Nash T: (Pater Noster) C: Nikolaj Kedrov Sr. Z: Edited by Guido Gonzato [EMAIL PROTECTED], 22 June 2002 M: none L: 1/4 Q: Adagio %%staves [1 2 3 4] V: 1 clef=treble name=Soprano V: 2 clef=treble name=Alto V: 3 clef=treble-8 name=Tenor V: 4 clef=bass name=Bass K: C % % 1 - 2 % [V: 1] !pp!E2 E !breath!E4 |EEE F4| w: Ot- che nash, i- je ye- si na ne- be- seh, [V: 2] !pp!C2 C !breath!C4 |CCC C2 B,2| w: Ot- che nash, i- je ye- si na ne- be- seh,_ [V: 3] !pp!G2 G !breath!G4 |GGG G4| w: Ot- che nash, i- je ye- si na ne- be- seh, [V: 4] !pp!c2 c !breath!c4 |ccc d4| w: Ot- che nash, i- je ye- si na ne- be- seh, % % 3 % [V: 1] G2 GG !breath!G2| w: da svya- ti- tsya i- mya Tvo- ye, [V: 2] B,B,B,B, D2 CC !breath!C2| w: da svya- ti- tsya i- mya Tvo- ye, [V: 3] G2 GG !breath!G2| w: da svya- ti- tsya i- mya Tvo- ye, [V: 4] e2 ee !breath!e2| w: da svya- ti- tsya i- mya Tvo- ye, % % 4 - 5 % [V: 1] G2 FFE F4 |F F2 F2 F2 EG !breath!D2 | w: da pri-i-dyet tsar-stvi-e Tvo-ye, da bu-dyet vo-lya Tvo-ya [V: 2] C2 CCC C4 |C C2 C2 C2 CC !breath!B,2| w: da pri-i-dyet tsar-stvi-e Tvo-ye, da bu-dyet vo-lya Tvo-ya [V: 3] GG(c_B) B2 AAG A4|A A2 A2 A2 GG !breath!G2| w: da pri-i-dyet tsar-stvi-e Tvo-ye, da bu-dyet vo-lya Tvo-ya [V: 4] f2 fff f4 |f f2 e2 d2 ee !breath!g2 | w: da pri-i-dyet tsar-stvi-e Tvo-ye, da bu-dyet vo-lya Tvo-ya % % 6 % [V: 1] D2 DDDE F2 E D2 C2 !fermata!D4 | w: ya-ko na ne-be-si i na zye-mgli. [V: 2] B,2 BBBC C2 C B,2 C2 !fermata!B,4| w: ya-ko na ne-be-si i na zye-mgli. [V: 3] G2 A2 G G2 A2 !fermata!G4 | w: ya-ko na ne-be-si i na zye-mgli. [V: 4] g2 ggge d2 e g2 a2 !fermata!g4 | w: ya-ko na ne-be-si i na zye-mgli. % % 7 % [V: 1] !pp!E2 F2 F F2 | w: Chlyeb nash na-sush-nyi dashd nam dnyes [V: 2] !pp!C2 C2 B, B,2| w: Chlyeb nash na-sush-nyi dashd nam dnyes [V: 3] !pp!G2 G2 G G2 | w: Chlyeb nash na-sush-nyi dashd nam dnyes [V: 4] !pp!c2 d2 d d2 | w: Chlyeb nash na-sush-nyi dashd nam dnyes % % 8 % [V: 1] FF G2 G2 F2 | w: i a-sta-vi nam do-lghi na-sha, [V: 2] B, B, D2 C2 C2| w: i a-sta-vi nam do-lghi na-sha, [V: 3] GG G2 GGc_B B2 A2 | w: i a-sta-vi nam do-lghi na-sha, [V: 4] dd e2 f2 (fe) | w: i a-sta-vi nam do-lghi na-sha,_ % % 9 - 10 % [V: 1] F2 FEG !breath!D2 DE F2 |FFF (E2 C) (D2 C2) D4| w: ya-ko-je i myi a-sta-vlya-yem dol-jni-kam_ na - shim, [V: 2] C2 CCC !breath!B,2 B,C C2 |CCC (C2 A,) (B,2 A,2) B,4| w: ya-ko-je i myi a-sta-vlya-yem dol-jni-kam_ na - shim, [V: 3] A2 GGG !breath!G2 GG A2 |AAA G3 (G2 E2) G4| w: ya-ko-je i myi a-sta-vlya-yem dol-jni-kam na - shim, [V: 4] d2 dee !breath!g2 ge d2 |ddd e3 g4 g4 | w: ya-ko-je i myi a-sta-vlya-yem dol-jni-kam na-shim, % % 11 % [V: 1] z EEE (E2 G2) ccBA G2 F2 E2 | w: i nye ve-di_ nas va i-sku-she-ni-ye, [V: 2] z CCC E4 EEEF (GC) (CB,) C2 | w: i nye ve-di_ * nas va i-sku-she-ni-ye, [V: 3] z GGG c4 (cG) G2 G2| w: i nye ve-di_ nas va i-sku-she-ni-ye, [V: 4] z ccc (c'2 b2) aagf e2 d2 c2| w: i nye ve-di_ nas va i-sku-she-ni-ye, % % 12 % [V: 1] !pp!DD G2 D G2|CD E4 E4 E4 |E2 E4 |] w: no i-zba-vi nas ot lu-ka va-go. A-min! [V: 2] !pp!CC C2 C C2|CC (C2 A,2) B,4 C4|B,2 C4|] w: no i-zba-vi nas ot lu-ka_ va-go. A-min! [V: 3] !pp!AA G2 A G2|AA (G2 E2) G4 G4 |G2 G4 |] w: no i-zba-vi nas ot lu-ka_ va-go. A-min! [V: 4] !pp!ff e2 f e2|ff c4 g4 c4 |G2 C4 |] w: no i-zba-vi nas ot lu-ka va-go. A-min! % % End of file Otche_Nash.abc -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Otche Nash
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the tranlation is entered in the ABC, will someone post the ABC for it again? yes, I'm waiting for the Russian lyrics that Laurie will get from a friend. I'll add them to the source, then repost it. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] page layout in abcm2ps - SOLVED
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Atte Andre Jensen wrote: Only thing: I don't have a file ps2pdfwr at all. Could the same be achieved by calling psdpdf with -sPAPERSIZE=a4 or something like that? yes, I think so. Please let me know, so that I can include this information in the guide Typesetting Music with ABC I'm writing. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc
Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Atte Andre Jensen wrote: * free * stuff like my songbook (server generated pdf's in 12 keys) are AFAIK not really possible using Finale * runs on any platform * small file size * works on my Palm (and I typed quite a few songs during public transportation) * speed? I think I'm faster in abc than I used to be in encore, but I'm not sure... Others?? yup: - very readable notation - implementations are very compact (say no to MusiXTeX ;-) - in many cases, it creates publication-quality sheet music. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Annotations
On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Luis Pablo Gasparotto wrote: Hi, Is there someway or some character to tell abc2abc, abcm2ps and abctab2ps that a text string between quotes should not be parsed as a guitar chord? I've seen something about it in abc-draft.txt provided with abcm2ps. In Annotations section there's a few symbols to do this and give format values (_^). But it don't seems to be implemented in any abc to abc or abc to ps program. to my knowledge, jaabc2ps is the only application that handles _^ in text annotations correctly. It would be very nice if those routines were incorporated in other ABC programs (Jean-François, qu'en penses-tu? :-) Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. gonzato at sci . univr . it - Linux system manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027958 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Transpose and GUI development
On Mon, 6 May 2002, Ulf wrote: Hi, I am still working on a graphical user interface for jcabc2ps. I was adding a scale widget today - a slider which sets the transpose level. [snip] Another question: Is there anybody who works with Linux (or some other Unix) who wants to test my graphical user interface to jcabc2ps / abc2ps? I do, please! Feel free to consider me one of your beta testers. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. gonzato at sci . univr . it - Linux system manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027958 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] new ABC+ draft ready
Hello,
I have finished writing the new ABC+ draft. This is how I proceeded:
- I checked out other notations and programs (MusiXTeX, PMX, M-TX, MUP,
and Lilypond) to study their approach and solutions;
- I kept ABC+ 100% upwards compatible with the ABC draft 1.7.6;
- I introduced unofficial but already existing extensions, like %%staves
and some such;
- I added long fields (e.g. Index:) and commands (e.g. \move{-1.5,0}) to
overcome current limitations.
As it is now, the new draft needs careful examination by a selected group of
developers; when its rough edges are smoothed out, it will make it to the
net and to this list.
I was going to send the draft to the following people who were interested:
- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Simon Wascher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Christoph Dalitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and of course
- Jean-Francois Moine moinejf.free.fr
but I'm sure I forgot somebody. If anyone is interested in _constructive_
criticism, please write to me off-list and I'll add you to this list. By
constructive I mean this: if you find an error in something I wrote,
saying ha! this is nonsense! isn't enough; you should provide a working
solution.
Waiting for helpers.
Later,
Guido =8-)
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[abcusers] FYI - work in progress
Hello all, since no one else raised her hand, I have taken the sweet burden on my hefty shoulders: I've started writing the new ABC draft. Design goals: a) 100% upwards compatibility with current ABC; b) main target is western classical music; c) explicitly designed for computer input/output; d) 100% upwards compatibility with _most_ existing software. I hope to succeed. When it's ready (don't hold your breath), I'll post it to the list for comments and public munching and digestion. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. gonzato at sci . univr . it - Linux system manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027958 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] (Attention please) - starting the new ABC draft
On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Jack Campin wrote: This is what I thought I'd do: 1) study other notation languages carefully to see their approach and priorities; 2) if a feature is implemented by other notation languages (M-Tx, MUP, Lilypond, CMN, etc) and is desirable, then steal that feature using an ABC-compatible syntax; No. ABC is a *notation* not a notation language. You can't just add features because they do fun things with machines that generate pixels on paper, regardless of what they mean in terms of sound. Any new feature must take implementability on a player program into account. ab-so-lu-te-ly! While I don't see the big difference between the terms notation and notation language, don't worry: I'm thinking very high level, and I'm not going to specify anything in terms of printed vs. played. 3) if a feature has already been implemented by one or more applications, then give precedence to that particular implementation rather than reinventing a nicer but theoretical wheel; Only if that feature isn't so specific to that implementation's rationale or architecture that it would cause major headaches for fundamentally different implementations. sure. 4) if a feature is desirable but unimplemented by any ABC application, tough: insert it in the draft anyway. I think these need to be fenced off into a separate part of the document. good suggestion, I will. I would add: 5) Every proposed feature must be given a clear semantics directly in terms of audible phenomena or the mechanics of performance. That is, *no* new features of the let's add this cute squiggle variety. I'll need your help here. I'll state clearly what my musical background is, and what the fields are where I need other people's contributions. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. gonzato at sci . univr . it - Linux system manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027958 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] blasphemy! A separate project...?
On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Richard Robinson wrote: Another approach is to ignore all existing implementations and create an altogether new syntax. No, please no ! ! ! ! ! Well ... maybe this might be worth someone's while ? Being an altogether new syntax, it wouldn't be ABC; but we could migrate to it, if it works better ;-) But, it would be a separate, different, project. ha - caught you red-handed! ;-) Blasphemy! Another project...? Let me tell you the dark side of my ABC point of view: ABC is _very_ nice, but is _way_ too limited. It was designed with too little goals in mind. As a real-world musician, I want to tweak current ABC so that it can do my choral scores reasonably well. As a computer guy, I already have a new syntax ready that just waits to be put down on paper... I let you guess the reasons why I didn't put it down on paper. But if you're interested, wave your hand at me. Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. gonzato at sci . univr . it - Linux system manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027958 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] dynamics
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Taral wrote: This is exactly my intent with libabc. If all goes well, I'll probably go and put it on sourceforge somewhere. two sites are already set up for you: 1) http://abc.sourceforge.net - standard ABC 1) http://abcplus.sourceforge.net - ABC with extensions for classical music Please consider contributing to both projects... please! Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. gonzato at sci . univr . it - Linux system manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Dipartimento Scientifico e Tecnologico Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027958 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] dynamics
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Aaron Newman wrote:
I read in the FAQ that there is no way now to do dynamics in the official
ABC language. How are people handling this?
the FAQ should be updated. In actual fact, many ABC applications support
dynamics; abcm2ps, jaabc2ps, abc2midi, to name but a few. Please check out
the ABC draft, http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/abc-draft.txt
I am working on a (yet another) free ABC music editing and display program,
and for some reason I overlooked this originally.
that's very good! What kind of application are you writing? I hope it's not
yet another abc2ps clone... in that case, it would probably be a better idea
contributing code to existing programs like abcm2ps or jaabc2ps.
Also: have you checked out Note Editor,
http://tan.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/~jan/noteedit/noteedit.html ?
It's an astounding graphical music editor, but it lacks ABC export. If
you're a talented programmer, you might consider helping that project.
Also, I would also like the language to be able to handle jazz, so I would
be adding some additional note ornaments ('doits', falls), how is this
recommended?
I can't help you here. It looks like most ABC programmers add their own
extensions to ABC to make it suitable for classical music or else, so adding
decos for jazz would be just fine. (IMHO.) It breaks the standard, though.
Ciao,
Guido =8-)
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[abcusers] new abcMIDI RPMs available + other stuff
Hello, you can grab the abcMIDI RPMs and updates to JedABC + abcpp from the AbcPlus page, http://abcplus.sourceforge.net Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. gonzato at sci . univr . it - Linux system manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Dipartimento Scientifico e Tecnologico Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027958 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] RPMs for abcMIDI
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, James Allwright wrote: (b) Does anyone else have a desire to maintain an RPM for abcMIDI ? here I am, I'll be happy to build and maintain RPMs on my page. abcMIDI's too good not to have RPMs... Bye, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. gonzato at sci . univr . it - Linux system manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Dipartimento Scientifico e Tecnologico Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027958 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] abcpp JedABC
On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Philip J Headford wrote: Is there a UK source for these, please? The Italian Connection is extremely slow. Flos I think I'll open an account with Sourceforge next week, please be patient. Regards, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Universita' di Verona, Dipartimento Scientifico e Tecnologico Ca' Vignal 2, Strada le Grazie 8, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel.: +39 045 802 7990 - Fax: +39 045 802 7929 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] (Correction) ANNOUNCE: abcpp, an ABC preprocessor/converter
Hello, following the announcement of abcpp, there you are its home page: http://ibogeo.df.unibo.it/guido/abc.html which I forgot to mention in my previous message... Enjoy, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. ggonza at tin dot it - Linux system manager Universita' di Verona, Dipartimento Scientifico e Tecnologico Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax Tel. +39 045 8027958 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] (Correction) ANNOUNCE: JedABC
Hello, following the announcement of JedABC, there you are its home page: http://ibogeo.df.unibo.it/guido/jed.html which I forgot to mention in my previous message... Enjoy, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. ggonza at tin dot it - Linux system manager Universita' di Verona, Dipartimento Scientifico e Tecnologico Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax Tel. +39 045 8027958 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] ANNOUNCE: JedABC
Hello, this is to announce the first official release of JedABC (a.k.a. ABC mode for Jed). From its help file: JedABC is an extension to the JED editor that turns it into a powerful and easy to use IDE (Integrated Development Environment) for ABC files, with full integration with players and previewers. It's similar in concept to BarFly or runabc, with several advantages. JedABC works on Windows and Linux, and possibly other Unix variants. JedABC is free software released under the GNU GPL. Please let me know your impressions, criticisms, and suggestions. Enjoy, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. ggonza at tin dot it - Linux system manager Universita' di Verona, Dipartimento Scientifico e Tecnologico Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax Tel. +39 045 8027958 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
