Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day
Yes! we have separate Staff Room officially only for VH teachers, although at present, unofficially, two nearest normal colleagues are also sitting with us. Actually, in my school, there are several alternate staff rooms have also been running in sports room, yoga room, examination room, three science labs and library except common staff room since long time. Further, for your kind information, having our strong protest, the common staff room was shifted in third building in August 12 of 2008 from second building. The distance between second and third buildings is very much and way between both buildings is not accessible due to having several mud, gutters incomplete road. non of us (VH PERSONS) can move alone between both buildings. My most classes were in second building and six continuous periods of six sections of classes 11 and 12 of 606 students, so, I had to suffer more than other VH colleagues. Therefore, after shifting common staff room in third building, Finally, my written procedure had begun against school authority at higher level with demand of reshifting the common staff room in second building after failure of our personal talk with them since last of August of 2008. But, unfortunately, I haven't received any positive response from higher authorities of our department till first week of April 2009, although surprisingly an objectionable show cause notice from Deputy Director of Education (North-East) had been served to me on dated 04-04-2009 in response of unknown complain of my school authority with wrongly supposing my three false convictions in advance: irregular in my classes, busy in my mobile during school time and misbehaving with my students. I sent the copy of reply of show cause notice with enclosing with several previous written request letters before Hon'ble LG of NCT DELHI with mentioning some important facts: Firstly, I should not be convicted by any authority before giving me opportunity to defend myself. Secondly, No information has been given to me by any authority about any complain against me till date. Thirdly, norms and guidelines under CCS conduct rules (1964) has not been followed by concerned authority in this matter. Fourthly, Non of any step has been taken till date by any concerned authority to minimize extraordinary burden of teaching six sections of classes 11 and 12 of 606 students from me. Beside of it, I sent following letter to all concerned authorities on Dated 13-04-2009 with five requests: -- **_THROUGH EMAIL / POST/ BY HAND TO, 1. HON. LG. NCT. DELHI, RAJ NIWAS MARG, DELHI110054. EMAIL: lgde...@nic.in _(BY HAND AND EMAIL SENT). 2. HON. CM. NCT. DELHI, CMO (625), CM Office, NCT. DELHI, 3rd Level, A-wing, Delhi Secretariat, I.P Estate,New Delhi110002. EMAIL: cmde...@nic.in _(Mail ID: 1304200900045 SENT). 3. HON. M.O.E. NCT. DELHI (5005010), ROOM NO. 602, 6th Level, A-wing, Delhi Secretariat, I.P Estate,New Delhi110002 _(Mail ID: 1304200900044 SENT). 4. D.E. NCT. DELHI (501), OLD SECRETARIAT, DELHI-110054 _(BY HAND AND Mail ID: 1304200900042 DELIVERED). 5. D.D.E. NORTH-EAST (5001003), DISTRICT NORTH-EAST, YAMUNA VIHAR, DELHI-110053 _(BY HAND AND Mail ID: 1304200900038 SENT). 6. THE PRINCIPAL, GBSSS SEEMAPURI-1106009, DELHI-110095 PHONE: 22355423 (TIMINGS: 01:00 AM-06:30 PM) [BY HAND AND MAIL ID: 1304200900035 SENT]. Monday, April 13, 2009 SUBJECT: REQUEST FOR ISSUING STRICT DIRECTIONS FOR MAKING PROPER ARRANGEMENT OF CLASSROOMS AND OTHER LATEST SYSTEM ACCORDING TO MAXIMUM CONVENIENCE OF VISUALLY CHALLENGED AND OTHER DISABLED EMPLOYEES IN ALL GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS (SPECIALLY IN GBSSS SEEMAPURI-1106009) AND FOR APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL OFFICER FOR LOOKING MATTERS OF DISABLED EMPLOYEES AT DISTRICT LEVEL. HON. SIR / MADAM, I want to draw your kind attention on following problems relating to disabled specially for visually challenged employees (who are working in different GOVT school of Directorate of Education of NCT DELHI): _FIRSTLY, Nowadays, Almost every Government school has computer facility for completing school works. *_But, there is no special arrangement for visually challenged employees, who may properly use this facility for completing their school works and study purpose for the benefit of their students. *_Secondly, Some schools are still running in more then one building like: _my present working SCHOOL GBSSS SEEMAPURI (CODE: 1106009) is presently running in _FOUR buildings:ALL OFFICES ARE IN FIRST BUILDING, CLASSES 12 AND 10 ARE IN SECOND BUILDING, STAFFROOM, LIBRARY AND CLASSES 11, 9 AND 8 ARE IN THIRD BUILDING AND OTHER CLASSES ARE IN FOURTH BUILDING. _Due to having above type of arrangements, visually challenged employees of these schools are greatly suffering and _mostly none of concerned authorities of our department are taking proper interest
Re: [AI] Moderator: Re: AI : VERY URGENT to YOU
No, I am not fully agreed with MR. Vetri because this information is very important for us, although this is related to mobile, but I got suffered same from various fraud email message and I got lost much than expectation. So, please take this type of information very seriously. I also request to moderater, to kindly take some time before finding any final conclusion on such type of crucial matters like this. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: Harish Kotian har...@accessindia.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 7:04 AM Subject: [AI] Moderator: Re: AI : VERY URGENT to YOU Hello Yes, these type of messages are spam which askes you to forward to as many. This thread is now closed. Harish Kotian - Original Message - From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam vadhimoo...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [AI] AI : VERY URGENT to YOU Could we put a fullstop to such craps?? Moderator please. - Original Message - From: Kailas Patel kailaspate...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 9:23 AM Subject: [AI] AI : VERY URGENT to YOU *Dear All * * ** Please note this carefully: If you receive a phone call on your Mobile from any person saying that they are checking your mobile line or going to give you some offer/ prize, and ask you to press #90 or #09 or any other number. End that call immediately without pressing any Number. There is a company in Pakistan that is using a device that once you press #90 or #09 they can access your SIM card and make calls at your expense. They are misusing it to make calls from Indian numbers. Forward this message to as many friends as u can, to stop it. This information has been confirmed by both Motorola and Nokia. There are over 3 million mobile phones affected by this. You can check this news at CNN web site ** * -- Disclaimer: The information contained in this e-mail (“message”) and/or attachments is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named hereinabove. This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or a work product and as such is strictly privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, he/she is hereby notified that he/she has received this message erroneously and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited and that he/she must immediately notify the sender by e-mail/fax/phone and delete this message from his/her records forever. WARNING: Although a virus scan run on this message did not detect any virus, it is strongly recommended that you scan received messages for potential infections and viruses as this is transmitted over unsecured medium. The Company accepts no responsibility and/or liability for any damage caused due to any virus(es) transmitted through this mail. Sharad Lonkar -- Shlok To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day
Hi Kanchan, I fully agree with you. I have been teaching in a college for the last thirty years and my lectures are spread over all the three buildings of the college, and many times, my one lecture is on the third floor of one building and the next lecture is on the third floor of another building. But to maintain parity with others, I never grumbled about this situation. I will never prefer any type of segregation due to my own demands. Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar - Original Message - From: pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Hi, Everything seems to be working towards a better tomorrow. Only one thing I am not sure of Rakesh. Should you have a seperate staff room for the visually challenged teachers? I would like to know what others think. My present thought is that maybe it is convenient but is this not exclusion and segregation. Kanchan - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: rambabu adikesavalu rambabu_...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 20:56 Subject: Re: [AI] Happy Teachers Day Hi, Thanks and same to you and also other teachers / professors In one hand, Being a teacher of political science, this should be my very first lesson for all my students to aware them about their rights and duties and specially how to use their rights with obeying their duties too. In my opinion, this is the main challenge before us. But in other hand, due to having visually challenged person, at present, I and lots of us have to face various problems in our working institutions, society and even our own family too, specially for getting equal opportunities with dignity and honor, making our personal identity for positive works etc. However, We must have to fight more against different type of exploitations with firmed decision and extraordinary patience because we are in minority and our any harsh behavior may give wrong message to any part of society, who use to try to generalize our any weakness with whole community of Visually challenged persons. Here, I would like to share some recent positive results with all of you. May be, some friends know this fact that my nearest bank Bank of Baroda Dilshad Garden Branch Delhi refused to provide me ATM/ Debit card and internetbanking facilities in August of last year. Now, after long positive fight against the negative attitude of the bank and interference of RBI (NEW DELHI BRANCH), my bank branch has issued me ATM/DEBIT CARD on today, although struggle against delaying for providing internetbanking facility is still continued. Another news, my present working school is running in four buildings and in where, we four Visually Challenged teachers are working at present. We all VH teachers have been compeled to take our classes at least in three buildings since long time. After completing long writing process to higher authorities of our Delhi Government, all classes, to which we VH teachers teach, have been shifted in one building and one separate Staff Room has also been alotted to us in same building in July of this year. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: rambabu adikesavalu rambabu_...@yahoo.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:48 PM Subject: [AI] Happy Teachers Day Dear Friends, I wish all the Teacher-members on the list a very very Happy Teachers Day. Today is the day for 'Self-introspection' for all of us belonging to a profession which deserves more recognition than it currently enjoys. I am pasting a poem which was I recieved from an online networking forum named Bookbole.com. Teachers are one of the greatest people we come across in life. They are selfless givers and mentors for life. At every step, you come across teachers who devote their entire life to the enlightenment of students. We are indeed honoured to share with you a poem titled Treasure Trove of Books by Leela Jacob, an English teacher from Bhavan's Public School, Baroda. Treasure Trove of Books Deprived of eyesight, Milton didn't falter. He reached his height With Paradise Lost, And Paradise Regained, later. Books galore await your pleasure, A feast for the inner eye. Dive for the bountiful treasure, Savour the thrill to the full, Till you reach as high as the Sky. For you we have 'bookbole', Technology at your doorstep. Everything is easily available. Flex your intellectual muscles, Till you plumb your own depth. Team Bookbole With regards and best wishes, Dr. A.Rambabu, Assistant Professor, CSSEIP, TISS, Mumbai Phone: 09969747312. Office: 022-25525329. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the
Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind
Could not agree with you more. This is a reflection of a charity mindset. I am sure , it is this mindset that we are all striving to break free of. - Original Message - From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam vadhimoo...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled,the first university of its kind I do not necessarily celebrate this and in my view, such segmentalizations are not uncommon. It was very much evident in our poorly run government schools for disabled including the visually challenged. It just signifies the deep-rooted conservative attitude of the politicians and the policy makers towards disabled. So such educational prisons can hardly make difference in the lives of disabled in general and the visually challenged in particular. What an inclusive society that we belong to??? Vetri. - Original Message - From: moiz tundawala moiztundaw...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 1:01 AM Subject: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled,the first university of its kind -- Forwarded message -- From: Aparajita Das aparajitaso...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:12:53 +0530 Subject: Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind To: moiz tundawalla moiztundaw...@gmail.com, Omkar Nisal omkar.ni...@gmail.com, Omkar Dastane omkar.dast...@gmail.com, deepak.bumbumbh...@gmail.com, Nikhil Arya nikkhil.a...@gmail.com, YoGiNi ArYa yogini.nik...@gmail.com -- Forwarded message -- From: Shampa Sengupta sham...@vsnl.com Date: Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:44 PM Subject: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind To: sruti-disability-rig...@googlegroups.com, campaigners-for-inclus...@googlegroups.com - Original Message - *From:* Mahesh Chandrasekaradvocacy.cbrfo...@gmail.com *Sent:* Friday, September 04, 2009 6:46 PM *Subject:* University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind Dear Friends, When the world is screaming for inclusion, mainstreaming, human rights, social understanding of disability - here is a classic Rs. 397 Crore Phase 1 Indian story ...*University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind in Lucknow.* Jai ho, Mahesh *University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind * LUCKNOW: In a bid to usher in a ray of hope among physically challenged in the state, Dr Shakuntala Misra Rehabilitation University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind was on Friday inaugurated here. Speaking during the inaugural function, Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Mayawati said that the university would provide quality education to the disabled, so as to help them get better employment opportunities and make them self reliant. This university would also help create a better educational system for the disabled, the CM said adding that her government has taken a number of steps for providing disabled students better facilities and has got them implemented in record time. Mayawati also claimed that the steps taken by the government for the welfare of the disabled was being lauded even at the national level and also gave a detailed account of them. Terming the said university as only of its kind in Asia, she said that in order to ensure smooth functioning of the varsity, her government has arranged Rs 397 crores in the first phase. Fifty per cent seats would be reserved for the disabled students in all the courses out of which fifty per cent would be reserved for the blind, she said adding that in the first year it would run six courses including B.Ed. The university would have a special faculty for studies of subjects related to disabilities with separate departments for different disabilities. A research wing for studies on how to overcome various disabilities would also be opened, she added. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/lucknow/Rehabilitation-University-for-Disabled-inaugurated/articleshow/4972425.cms -- C. Mahesh Advocacy Coordinator CBR Forum 14, CK Garden, St. Thomas Town Post Wheeler Road Extension Bangalore - 560 084 Tel - 080- 2549 7387 or 2549 7388 advocacy.cbrfo...@gmail.com ad...@cbrforum.in www.cbrforum.in The issue is not the absence of equal rights but the inability to exercise them When Policies weaken, Rights must be strengthened --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Campaigners for Inclusion group. To post to this group, send email to campaigners-for-inclus...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to campaigners-for-inclusion+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcampaigners-for-inclusion%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at
Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind
Dear Vetri and George sir, I look at it slightly differently. A university which especially caters to persons with disabilities offers a unique opportunity to get us all on a common platform. Using the rights language may not be desirable all the time, but the one big problem plaguing the disability movement over the years has been the absence of unity. We haven’t really been able to present a strong joint front and make political/economic assertions against the state and persons in positions of power and authority. I was reading somewhere about the civil rights movement in the United States. People may have had issues with segregation, but then this helped the blacks to come together and collectively make demands against the establishment. Is an inclusive society as great a virtue as presented to be? I sometimes wonder. Whom do we wish to be integrated with. Who defines what the mainstream is? Are the disabled an inferior lot in themselves? Arent our identities worth preserving? If religious and linguistic minorities can have a right to establish and administer educational institutions to preserve their language and culture, shouldn’t we be similarly be encouraging such institutions catering to the particular needs of the disabled? Oh and just for everyone’s information, the news piece also says that only 50% of the seats will be reserved for persons with disabilities. So the University is not going to be as exclusive a domain for PWDs as you think it is. These are just stray thoughts. You are free to disagree. I hope I make some sense. Regards, Moiz. -- Moiz Tundawala 5th Year, B.A./B.Sc. LLB Hons., West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences, NUJS Bhavan, 12 LB, Sector III, Salt Lake City, Kolkata, 700 098 Ph: +919874396052 To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day
There are some great difference between colleges and Govt schools specially in Delhi and also some in between govt schools and my school. I am not viewing so same for defending my personal point, it is based on my personal working experience of about 20 years in different 12 or 13 Govt schools, in where, I have taught. Mostly, in college, a lecturer / professor takes hardly two or three periods in a day and strength of students is not more than 30 per class. If road connectivity between two or three buildings are good and under reach of VH employees nothing is possible. But, in my present school, Principal office is in first building in where, every must has to present personally at the time of arrival and departure. Due to having vacant first period of each VH employee, all VH employees must had to go common staff room in first period. My 2nd, 3rd and 4th periods were in 2nd building, 5th and 6th periods were in third building, 7th period was in again 2nd building and in 8th period, I had to go in common staff room and then, at the end, I had to report principal office in 1st building at the departure time. This was the regular routine in whole last cession of 2008-2009 which was obviously very tidy for me. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Hi Kanchan, I fully agree with you. I have been teaching in a college for the last thirty years and my lectures are spread over all the three buildings of the college, and many times, my one lecture is on the third floor of one building and the next lecture is on the third floor of another building. But to maintain parity with others, I never grumbled about this situation. I will never prefer any type of segregation due to my own demands. Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar - Original Message - From: pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Hi, Everything seems to be working towards a better tomorrow. Only one thing I am not sure of Rakesh. Should you have a seperate staff room for the visually challenged teachers? I would like to know what others think. My present thought is that maybe it is convenient but is this not exclusion and segregation. Kanchan - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: rambabu adikesavalu rambabu_...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 20:56 Subject: Re: [AI] Happy Teachers Day Hi, Thanks and same to you and also other teachers / professors In one hand, Being a teacher of political science, this should be my very first lesson for all my students to aware them about their rights and duties and specially how to use their rights with obeying their duties too. In my opinion, this is the main challenge before us. But in other hand, due to having visually challenged person, at present, I and lots of us have to face various problems in our working institutions, society and even our own family too, specially for getting equal opportunities with dignity and honor, making our personal identity for positive works etc. However, We must have to fight more against different type of exploitations with firmed decision and extraordinary patience because we are in minority and our any harsh behavior may give wrong message to any part of society, who use to try to generalize our any weakness with whole community of Visually challenged persons. Here, I would like to share some recent positive results with all of you. May be, some friends know this fact that my nearest bank Bank of Baroda Dilshad Garden Branch Delhi refused to provide me ATM/ Debit card and internetbanking facilities in August of last year. Now, after long positive fight against the negative attitude of the bank and interference of RBI (NEW DELHI BRANCH), my bank branch has issued me ATM/DEBIT CARD on today, although struggle against delaying for providing internetbanking facility is still continued. Another news, my present working school is running in four buildings and in where, we four Visually Challenged teachers are working at present. We all VH teachers have been compeled to take our classes at least in three buildings since long time. After completing long writing process to higher authorities of our Delhi Government, all classes, to which we VH teachers teach, have been shifted in one building and one separate Staff Room has also been alotted to us in same building in July of this year. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: rambabu adikesavalu rambabu_...@yahoo.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:48 PM Subject: [AI] Happy Teachers Day Dear Friends, I wish
Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind
Hay: Being in one campus is not the same as being in one platform. The versity may be a great idea no doubt, but it would probably become easier for the mainstream to shove the PWDs into such special university whenever they feel admitting them would be a serious inconvenience. For example, this versity is coming at a time when we are demanding things like computer-based tests and other facilities, if a university is not willing to offer such facilities they can always reject admissions of PWDs with the excuse that they now have a special university and therefore won't be missing higher education at all. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of moiz tundawala Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 2:49 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled,the first university of its kind Dear Vetri and George sir, I look at it slightly differently. A university which especially caters to persons with disabilities offers a unique opportunity to get us all on a common platform. Using the rights language may not be desirable all the time, but the one big problem plaguing the disability movement over the years has been the absence of unity. We haven't really been able to present a strong joint front and make political/economic assertions against the state and persons in positions of power and authority. I was reading somewhere about the civil rights movement in the United States. People may have had issues with segregation, but then this helped the blacks to come together and collectively make demands against the establishment. Is an inclusive society as great a virtue as presented to be? I sometimes wonder. Whom do we wish to be integrated with. Who defines what the mainstream is? Are the disabled an inferior lot in themselves? Arent our identities worth preserving? If religious and linguistic minorities can have a right to establish and administer educational institutions to preserve their language and culture, shouldn't we be similarly be encouraging such institutions catering to the particular needs of the disabled? Oh and just for everyone's information, the news piece also says that only 50% of the seats will be reserved for persons with disabilities. So the University is not going to be as exclusive a domain for PWDs as you think it is. These are just stray thoughts. You are free to disagree. I hope I make some sense. Regards, Moiz. -- Moiz Tundawala 5th Year, B.A./B.Sc. LLB Hons., West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences, NUJS Bhavan, 12 LB, Sector III, Salt Lake City, Kolkata, 700 098 Ph: +919874396052 To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n Email secured by TPML Raksha Checkpoint To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind
Instead of being university for the disabled it can be called university for disability studies it could have been much better for not many universities specialise in this. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of moiz tundawala Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:31 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled,the first university of its kind -- Forwarded message -- From: Aparajita Das aparajitaso...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:12:53 +0530 Subject: Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind To: moiz tundawalla moiztundaw...@gmail.com, Omkar Nisal omkar.ni...@gmail.com, Omkar Dastane omkar.dast...@gmail.com, deepak.bumbumbh...@gmail.com, Nikhil Arya nikkhil.a...@gmail.com, YoGiNi ArYa yogini.nik...@gmail.com -- Forwarded message -- From: Shampa Sengupta sham...@vsnl.com Date: Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:44 PM Subject: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind To: sruti-disability-rig...@googlegroups.com, campaigners-for-inclus...@googlegroups.com - Original Message - *From:* Mahesh Chandrasekaradvocacy.cbrfo...@gmail.com *Sent:* Friday, September 04, 2009 6:46 PM *Subject:* University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind Dear Friends, When the world is screaming for inclusion, mainstreaming, human rights, social understanding of disability - here is a classic Rs. 397 Crore Phase 1 Indian story ...*University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind in Lucknow.* Jai ho, Mahesh *University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind * LUCKNOW: In a bid to usher in a ray of hope among physically challenged in the state, Dr Shakuntala Misra Rehabilitation University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind was on Friday inaugurated here. Speaking during the inaugural function, Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Mayawati said that the university would provide quality education to the disabled, so as to help them get better employment opportunities and make them self reliant. This university would also help create a better educational system for the disabled, the CM said adding that her government has taken a number of steps for providing disabled students better facilities and has got them implemented in record time. Mayawati also claimed that the steps taken by the government for the welfare of the disabled was being lauded even at the national level and also gave a detailed account of them. Terming the said university as only of its kind in Asia, she said that in order to ensure smooth functioning of the varsity, her government has arranged Rs 397 crores in the first phase. Fifty per cent seats would be reserved for the disabled students in all the courses out of which fifty per cent would be reserved for the blind, she said adding that in the first year it would run six courses including B.Ed. The university would have a special faculty for studies of subjects related to disabilities with separate departments for different disabilities. A research wing for studies on how to overcome various disabilities would also be opened, she added. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/lucknow/Rehabilitation-Univ ersity-for-Disabled-inaugurated/articleshow/4972425.cms -- C. Mahesh Advocacy Coordinator CBR Forum 14, CK Garden, St. Thomas Town Post Wheeler Road Extension Bangalore - 560 084 Tel - 080- 2549 7387 or 2549 7388 advocacy.cbrfo...@gmail.com ad...@cbrforum.in www.cbrforum.in The issue is not the absence of equal rights but the inability to exercise them When Policies weaken, Rights must be strengthened --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Campaigners for Inclusion group. To post to this group, send email to campaigners-for-inclus...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to campaigners-for-inclusion+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcampaigners-for-i nclusion%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.co.in/group/campaigners-for-inclusion?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- -- Moiz Tundawala 5th Year, B.A./B.Sc. LLB Hons., West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences, NUJS Bhavan, 12 LB, Sector III, Salt Lake City, Kolkata, 700 098 Ph: +919874396052 To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n Email secured by TPML Raksha Checkpoint To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription
Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind
Hi Subramani I totally agree with you. Uma Rao On 06/09/2009, Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in wrote: Instead of being university for the disabled it can be called university for disability studies it could have been much better for not many universities specialise in this. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of moiz tundawala Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:31 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled,the first university of its kind -- Forwarded message -- From: Aparajita Das aparajitaso...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:12:53 +0530 Subject: Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind To: moiz tundawalla moiztundaw...@gmail.com, Omkar Nisal omkar.ni...@gmail.com, Omkar Dastane omkar.dast...@gmail.com, deepak.bumbumbh...@gmail.com, Nikhil Arya nikkhil.a...@gmail.com, YoGiNi ArYa yogini.nik...@gmail.com -- Forwarded message -- From: Shampa Sengupta sham...@vsnl.com Date: Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:44 PM Subject: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind To: sruti-disability-rig...@googlegroups.com, campaigners-for-inclus...@googlegroups.com - Original Message - *From:* Mahesh Chandrasekaradvocacy.cbrfo...@gmail.com *Sent:* Friday, September 04, 2009 6:46 PM *Subject:* University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind Dear Friends, When the world is screaming for inclusion, mainstreaming, human rights, social understanding of disability - here is a classic Rs. 397 Crore Phase 1 Indian story ...*University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind in Lucknow.* Jai ho, Mahesh *University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind * LUCKNOW: In a bid to usher in a ray of hope among physically challenged in the state, Dr Shakuntala Misra Rehabilitation University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind was on Friday inaugurated here. Speaking during the inaugural function, Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Mayawati said that the university would provide quality education to the disabled, so as to help them get better employment opportunities and make them self reliant. This university would also help create a better educational system for the disabled, the CM said adding that her government has taken a number of steps for providing disabled students better facilities and has got them implemented in record time. Mayawati also claimed that the steps taken by the government for the welfare of the disabled was being lauded even at the national level and also gave a detailed account of them. Terming the said university as only of its kind in Asia, she said that in order to ensure smooth functioning of the varsity, her government has arranged Rs 397 crores in the first phase. Fifty per cent seats would be reserved for the disabled students in all the courses out of which fifty per cent would be reserved for the blind, she said adding that in the first year it would run six courses including B.Ed. The university would have a special faculty for studies of subjects related to disabilities with separate departments for different disabilities. A research wing for studies on how to overcome various disabilities would also be opened, she added. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/lucknow/Rehabilitation-Univ ersity-for-Disabled-inaugurated/articleshow/4972425.cms -- C. Mahesh Advocacy Coordinator CBR Forum 14, CK Garden, St. Thomas Town Post Wheeler Road Extension Bangalore - 560 084 Tel - 080- 2549 7387 or 2549 7388 advocacy.cbrfo...@gmail.com ad...@cbrforum.in www.cbrforum.in The issue is not the absence of equal rights but the inability to exercise them When Policies weaken, Rights must be strengthened --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Campaigners for Inclusion group. To post to this group, send email to campaigners-for-inclus...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to campaigners-for-inclusion+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcampaigners-for-inclusion%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com campaigners-for-i nclusion%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comnclusion%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.co.in/group/campaigners-for-inclusion?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- -- Moiz Tundawala 5th Year, B.A./B.Sc. LLB Hons., West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences, NUJS Bhavan, 12 LB, Sector III, Salt Lake City, Kolkata, 700 098 Ph: +919874396052 To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to
Re: [AI] Happy Teachers Day
I feel VI teachers must take this opportunity to reflect particularly on how the role of teachers and the service of teaching has changed drastically with the advent of internet and technology. There is a researcher in the US who has predicted that Universities as we know them today may be dead in 20 years time. Imagine, if everyone were to learn from the best minds of the world --by logging on to YouTube and downloading lectures of folks from UC Berkley etc-- and listen to them in their iPods? If this is possible, then what are you going to offer as a teacher and how would you distinguish yourself in the world where teaching is nothing different from a corporate service, given that institutions today charge outrageous sums as fees. Think over. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rambabu adikesavalu Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:48 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AI] Happy Teachers Day Dear Friends, I wish all the Teacher-members on the list a very very Happy Teachers Day. Today is the day for 'Self-introspection' for all of us belonging to a profession which deserves more recognition than it currently enjoys. I am pasting a poem which was I recieved from an online networking forum named Bookbole.com. Teachers are one of the greatest people we come across in life. They are selfless givers and mentors for life. At every step, you come across teachers who devote their entire life to the enlightenment of students. We are indeed honoured to share with you a poem titled Treasure Trove of Books by Leela Jacob, an English teacher from Bhavan's Public School, Baroda. Treasure Trove of Books Deprived of eyesight, Milton didn't falter. He reached his height With Paradise Lost, And Paradise Regained, later. Books galore await your pleasure, A feast for the inner eye. Dive for the bountiful treasure, Savour the thrill to the full, Till you reach as high as the Sky. For you we have 'bookbole', Technology at your doorstep. Everything is easily available. Flex your intellectual muscles, Till you plumb your own depth. Team Bookbole With regards and best wishes, Dr. A.Rambabu, Assistant Professor, CSSEIP, TISS, Mumbai Phone: 09969747312. Office: 022-25525329. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Email secured by TPML Raksha Checkpoint To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind
I do see the point behind those thought provoking questions. However it is important to distinguish unity from segmentelization. While it is true that civil rights movement was a remarkable step in uniting people. But at the same time we do not have different universities for blacks and whites. Nor is it desirable since such segmentelization will undermine the very objective of the civil rights movement. So is the case here and what's the point in having an university for disabled when the number of unemployed graduates among the disabled is on the increase? Regards, Vetri. - Produced in my Nokia N82. -original message- Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind From: moiz tundawala moiztundaw...@gmail.com Date: 09/06/2009 5:19 AM Dear Vetri and George sir, I look at it slightly differently. A university which especially caters to persons with disabilities offers a unique opportunity to get us all on a common platform. Using the rights language may not be desirable all the time, but the one big problem plaguing the disability movement over the years has been the absence of unity. We haven’t really been able to present a strong joint front and make political/economic assertions against the state and persons in positions of power and authority. I was reading somewhere about the civil rights movement in the United States. People may have had issues with segregation, but then this helped the blacks to come together and collectively make demands against the establishment. Is an inclusive society as great a virtue as presented to be? I sometimes wonder. Whom do we wish to be integrated with. Who defines what the mainstream is? Are the disabled an inferior lot in themselves? Arent our identities worth preserving? If religious and linguistic minorities can have a right to establish and administer educational institutions to preserve their language and culture, shouldn’t we be similarly be encouraging such institutions catering to the particular needs of the disabled? Oh and just for everyone’s information, the news piece also says that only 50% of the seats will be reserved for persons with disabilities. So the University is not going to be as exclusive a domain for PWDs as you think it is. These are just stray thoughts. You are free to disagree. I hope I make some sense. Regards, Moiz. -- Moiz Tundawala 5th Year, B.A./B.Sc. LLB Hons., West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences, NUJS Bhavan, 12 LB, Sector III, Salt Lake City, Kolkata, 700 098 Ph: +919874396052 To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Publishers and Authors who are with bookshare
hmm, sounds good, may i know, how can i register with bookshare? ok, i've done with the question, why to have extra chats. take care everyone, aisha sahani On 9/5/09, Anubhav Mitra anubhavmitra9...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hello all The publishers who have signed up with Bookshare so far are 1. Seasons 2. East-West 3. Orient Blackswan 4. OUP 5. Sheth Publications 6. Leadstart 7. Zubaan 8. Sahitya Akademy 9. Westland publications 10. Pratham -for their creative commons titles Authors- 1 Dr.Murugan, 2 Arvind Gupta, 3 Radha Padmanabhan, 4 Sujatha Padmanabhan Thanks Anubhav Mitra To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Speech software in Nokia E63
well yeh, a nice phone this is, one of the good phones of nokia's business Series. this is around rs. 14000, which is far good from the scratch if you really compare the other available phones in the same rates or even a bit higher. personally, i loved the screen reader support of this phone, and my view is, that if we insist nokia to further develop this utility and then make it a regular feature of their phones, the problem of buying aditional screenreader may get solve. yeh, things like these from a non- techno sounds weered, but that's what i feel, so you'd have to take it anyway. aisha sahani. On 9/5/09, Janardhana Naidu janardhananaid...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Madam, Do you have any idea of its price please? Thanks in advance. G. Janardhana Naidu. - Original Message - From: Geetha Shamanna gee...@millernorbert.de To: Access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: [AI] Speech software in Nokia E63 Hello all, I had an opportunity to check out this phone yesterday, and was impressed with the in-built speech software available in it. It can read text messages, announce the name of the contact during an incoming call, read out the contacts in the contact list, read out the menu options, etc. The voice quality is not too bad. There are several things that this speech software cannot do which software packages specially designed for us do, but this is a very good alternative for someone who cannot afford to shell out extra money for specialist speech software. If Nokia can be convinced to add more functionality to the existing speech options, it could some day produce phones which are fully accessible out of the box, similar to Apple's IPhone. Geetha To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Cheapest phone with accessibility features for the blind
hmm, sounds great, talking phone in just rs. 500, yet a dream to get fullfill. not sure about it's features as i haven't yet read about it in detail, but whatever it is, a nice attempt for those who are not economically equipped to buy the expensive phones. i've seen a phone of spice about 10 days back, which was talking as well. that phone could only identify numbers, but it could announce the number from your contacts, or even if anyone calling you. since this was a cheiper phone somewhere around rs. 2000, i won't say that it's bad, as it has other features like memory card, good sound, other basic features, etc. aisha sahani. On 9/4/09, Rajpal rajpal...@gmail.com wrote: I think you are trying to all these in the mail only, kindly copy the link and paist it in your browser's address bar and hit enter. I am sure then you will be able to find out all. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of surya prakash sharma Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 10:34 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Cheapest phone with accessibility features for the blind hello, sorry for disturbing you again and again but I am not finding any button on the page. when I press insert+F5 to list the form fields as suggested by you, Jaws says, no form field is found. Please share some more details. regards, S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science e-mail: surya.sharm...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Prashant Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Cheapest phone with accessibility features for the blind The videos cannot be downloaded. You can watch them by pressing the Play/Pause button after the headings. You can also find these buttons in the form field list (Insert +F5) There are two such buttons on the page for playing two videos. -- From: surya prakash sharma surya.sharm...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 7:23 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Cheapest phone with accessibility features for the blind hello, the download links for the videos are not available although the relevant headings are available. regards, S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science e-mail: surya.sharm...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Prashant Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Cheapest phone with accessibility features for the blind Hello, SMS facility is not available at all. Please checkout the videos and manual on my website, I have answered all queries. . . I am afraid that I will not be able to take more requests for purchase of this mobile till I provide it to those who have already asked for it. Video with audio description and manual is on www.prashant.myehome.in/down.html Thanks, Prashant -- From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 7:51 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Cheapest phone with accessibility features for the blind What about sms? - Original Message - From: Prashant Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Cheapest phone with accessibility features for the blind Hello, I have created two videos for answering the numerous queries I have been receiving regarding the screenless phone. I have also scanned uploaded the manual. They are available on http://www.prashant.myehome.in/down.html You can skip to the heading named Cheapest Mobile with accessibility features for the blind. I will be sending the phone by courier to the persons who have requested for it in the next 1-2 days. I hope it is clear to everybody that there is no warranty for this phone. -- From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:47 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Cheapest phone with accessibility features for the blind Hello Prashant, Ok, I have read it now. Is it possible to install a different or any seam card on this phone? If so, I think, I can ask several of my friends to purchase it here in Kolkata. Best regards, Amiyo Biswas. Cell: 91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Prashant Verma pr_ve...@hotmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Cheapest phone with accessibility features for the blind Hello Please visit http://www.prashant.myehome.in/ and then click the link My Blog Then check the headings. Alternatively go to http://prashant.myehome.in/blog/
Re: [AI] windows live
As Pranav has already mentioned below that Windows Live is an upgraded version of OE, the basic features of both of the E-mail clients are more or less same. If you have downloaded Windows Live mail client, the hotmail account would have configured in it automatically. When you press enter on Windows Live E-mail client to open it, the following message will appear: windows Live is not currently your default mail client. Would you like to make it your default mail client? Yes No. You need to press enter on yes. If you still see your Hotmail account not being configured in Windows live mail client, you may configure it the way you have configured in Outlook Express. Warm regards, Amit Bhatt Analyst - Management Information System come Reservations Incharge - Far Horizon Tours Pvt. Ltd. India www.farhorizonindia.com Ph-Off: +91-129-4098040 | Fax: +91-129-4098098 List Manager - SayEverything, an open discussion forum dedicated to persons with cross disabilities http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/sayeverything/ Direct Cell: +91-9868201812 Skype: amitbhattindia IM: champion_bh...@yahoo.co.in Windows Live: amitbhattde...@hotmail.com A player that makes a team great is more valuable than a great player - Original Message - From: Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com To: 'jean parker' radiofore...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [AI] windows live Jean, Windows live is an upgraded version of Outlook express I think. Also, I suspect you will need to upgrade your hotmail account but I cannot be sure. Pranav -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of jean parker Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:03 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] windows live All, My hotmail stopped working and I got a message that said that if I use outlook express to download windows live. So I did that but there is nothing telling me how to restore my hotmail to outlook express. Any suggestions? Jean To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day
I think that there should be no separate staffroom for the teachers with visual impairment or any other disability. If there is one in any school/college, it should be strongly opposed. Mittal. - Original Message - From: pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Hi, Everything seems to be working towards a better tomorrow. Only one thing I am not sure of Rakesh. Should you have a seperate staff room for the visually challenged teachers? I would like to know what others think. My present thought is that maybe it is convenient but is this not exclusion and segregation. Kanchan - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: rambabu adikesavalu rambabu_...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 20:56 Subject: Re: [AI] Happy Teachers Day Hi, Thanks and same to you and also other teachers / professors In one hand, Being a teacher of political science, this should be my very first lesson for all my students to aware them about their rights and duties and specially how to use their rights with obeying their duties too. In my opinion, this is the main challenge before us. But in other hand, due to having visually challenged person, at present, I and lots of us have to face various problems in our working institutions, society and even our own family too, specially for getting equal opportunities with dignity and honor, making our personal identity for positive works etc. However, We must have to fight more against different type of exploitations with firmed decision and extraordinary patience because we are in minority and our any harsh behavior may give wrong message to any part of society, who use to try to generalize our any weakness with whole community of Visually challenged persons. Here, I would like to share some recent positive results with all of you. May be, some friends know this fact that my nearest bank Bank of Baroda Dilshad Garden Branch Delhi refused to provide me ATM/ Debit card and internetbanking facilities in August of last year. Now, after long positive fight against the negative attitude of the bank and interference of RBI (NEW DELHI BRANCH), my bank branch has issued me ATM/DEBIT CARD on today, although struggle against delaying for providing internetbanking facility is still continued. Another news, my present working school is running in four buildings and in where, we four Visually Challenged teachers are working at present. We all VH teachers have been compeled to take our classes at least in three buildings since long time. After completing long writing process to higher authorities of our Delhi Government, all classes, to which we VH teachers teach, have been shifted in one building and one separate Staff Room has also been alotted to us in same building in July of this year. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: rambabu adikesavalu rambabu_...@yahoo.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:48 PM Subject: [AI] Happy Teachers Day Dear Friends, I wish all the Teacher-members on the list a very very Happy Teachers Day. Today is the day for 'Self-introspection' for all of us belonging to a profession which deserves more recognition than it currently enjoys. I am pasting a poem which was I recieved from an online networking forum named Bookbole.com. Teachers are one of the greatest people we come across in life. They are selfless givers and mentors for life. At every step, you come across teachers who devote their entire life to the enlightenment of students. We are indeed honoured to share with you a poem titled Treasure Trove of Books by Leela Jacob, an English teacher from Bhavan's Public School, Baroda. Treasure Trove of Books Deprived of eyesight, Milton didn't falter. He reached his height With Paradise Lost, And Paradise Regained, later. Books galore await your pleasure, A feast for the inner eye. Dive for the bountiful treasure, Savour the thrill to the full, Till you reach as high as the Sky. For you we have 'bookbole', Technology at your doorstep. Everything is easily available. Flex your intellectual muscles, Till you plumb your own depth. Team Bookbole With regards and best wishes, Dr. A.Rambabu, Assistant Professor, CSSEIP, TISS, Mumbai Phone: 09969747312. Office: 022-25525329. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the
Re: [AI] problem with windows messanger, help required
Hi, what about the previous problem? this time something wrong with the setting only - Original Message - From: aisha sahani mailtoaishasah...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 6:12 PM Subject: [AI] problem with windows messanger, help required hey everyone, I’m back again with yet another problem, and as ever hope that you’d land your hands for solving it. Coming straight away to the point. From around 15 days or something, I’m not able to log on to my windows messenger. Whenever I try to log in, the message appears as following: Signing in to .NET Messenger Service failed because the service is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later. Click the Help button to check the current .NET Service status. I’m very sure that the e-mail ID and the password are correct, yet it’s not working. Please note, I’m using the default application of windows messenger what comes with windows xp sp3. This is perhaps the version 4.0 or something, if I remember correctly. Though, I have downloaded the windows live as well, as someone has suggested me a few days back, yet the same situation, as it’s still denying to get log in. The version of windows live is 14.89… I am using the same gmail account for messenger from past few months, but these days only it has started creating problem. What do you guys think, am I wrong anywhere? Is there any problem with messenger itself, or I am missing anything? What should I do to revive my messenger conversations back, is there any way out? Please do help me, as I would be eagerly waiting for your responses. Aisha sahani. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] CBSE braille book required
Ask him to contact A.I.C.B., Sector 5 Rohini, New Delhi or N.I.V.H. 116 Raj Pur road, Dehra Dun, 248001 Uttarakhand. He may also contact The regional director, NIVH Regional Center, Poonamalli, Chennai. Mittal. - Original Message - From: Sharafu sharafukall...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: SAJEEVAN CHELLAPPAN navee...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 5:56 AM Subject: [AI] CBSE braille book required hello friends, my friend studying 11th standard in CBSE syllabus. he want CBSE braille books. i wish to help him. i hop a quick replay. thanks and regards sharafu. Sharafuddeen K Malappuram,kerala India Mob:+91944640 sharafukall...@gmail.com sharafukal...@yahoo.com sharafukall...@rediffmail.com Skype ID:sharafukallayi To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day
Hi, i am also not agree to the idea of a seperate staff room for the VI teachers. S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science e-mail: surya.sharm...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Hi, Everything seems to be working towards a better tomorrow. Only one thing I am not sure of Rakesh. Should you have a seperate staff room for the visually challenged teachers? I would like to know what others think. My present thought is that maybe it is convenient but is this not exclusion and segregation. Kanchan - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: rambabu adikesavalu rambabu_...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 20:56 Subject: Re: [AI] Happy Teachers Day Hi, Thanks and same to you and also other teachers / professors In one hand, Being a teacher of political science, this should be my very first lesson for all my students to aware them about their rights and duties and specially how to use their rights with obeying their duties too. In my opinion, this is the main challenge before us. But in other hand, due to having visually challenged person, at present, I and lots of us have to face various problems in our working institutions, society and even our own family too, specially for getting equal opportunities with dignity and honor, making our personal identity for positive works etc. However, We must have to fight more against different type of exploitations with firmed decision and extraordinary patience because we are in minority and our any harsh behavior may give wrong message to any part of society, who use to try to generalize our any weakness with whole community of Visually challenged persons. Here, I would like to share some recent positive results with all of you. May be, some friends know this fact that my nearest bank Bank of Baroda Dilshad Garden Branch Delhi refused to provide me ATM/ Debit card and internetbanking facilities in August of last year. Now, after long positive fight against the negative attitude of the bank and interference of RBI (NEW DELHI BRANCH), my bank branch has issued me ATM/DEBIT CARD on today, although struggle against delaying for providing internetbanking facility is still continued. Another news, my present working school is running in four buildings and in where, we four Visually Challenged teachers are working at present. We all VH teachers have been compeled to take our classes at least in three buildings since long time. After completing long writing process to higher authorities of our Delhi Government, all classes, to which we VH teachers teach, have been shifted in one building and one separate Staff Room has also been alotted to us in same building in July of this year. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: rambabu adikesavalu rambabu_...@yahoo.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:48 PM Subject: [AI] Happy Teachers Day Dear Friends, I wish all the Teacher-members on the list a very very Happy Teachers Day. Today is the day for 'Self-introspection' for all of us belonging to a profession which deserves more recognition than it currently enjoys. I am pasting a poem which was I recieved from an online networking forum named Bookbole.com. Teachers are one of the greatest people we come across in life. They are selfless givers and mentors for life. At every step, you come across teachers who devote their entire life to the enlightenment of students. We are indeed honoured to share with you a poem titled Treasure Trove of Books by Leela Jacob, an English teacher from Bhavan's Public School, Baroda. Treasure Trove of Books Deprived of eyesight, Milton didn't falter. He reached his height With Paradise Lost, And Paradise Regained, later. Books galore await your pleasure, A feast for the inner eye. Dive for the bountiful treasure, Savour the thrill to the full, Till you reach as high as the Sky. For you we have 'bookbole', Technology at your doorstep. Everything is easily available. Flex your intellectual muscles, Till you plumb your own depth. Team Bookbole With regards and best wishes, Dr. A.Rambabu, Assistant Professor, CSSEIP, TISS, Mumbai Phone: 09969747312. Office: 022-25525329. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at
Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day
I am not College teacher and if any fact is wrong, it may be corrected by college teacher too. The fact about per day period is based on the statement of one of college teacher of DU, who is appointee on 2007. The fact about the students' strength is given on the bases of my college time between 1984-1987. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day On what basis you can claim that a University/college teacher has to take 2-3 classes and the strength is not more that 30 students? Please correct your facts and don't unnecessarily over-fascinate the college teaching, it is equally challenging in terms of managing and organising classes and other activities. Vikas Kapoor, MSN Id:dl_vi...@hotmail.com, YahooSkype Id: dl_vikas, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day There are some great difference between colleges and Govt schools specially in Delhi and also some in between govt schools and my school. I am not viewing so same for defending my personal point, it is based on my personal working experience of about 20 years in different 12 or 13 Govt schools, in where, I have taught. Mostly, in college, a lecturer / professor takes hardly two or three periods in a day and strength of students is not more than 30 per class. If road connectivity between two or three buildings are good and under reach of VH employees nothing is possible. But, in my present school, Principal office is in first building in where, every must has to present personally at the time of arrival and departure. Due to having vacant first period of each VH employee, all VH employees must had to go common staff room in first period. My 2nd, 3rd and 4th periods were in 2nd building, 5th and 6th periods were in third building, 7th period was in again 2nd building and in 8th period, I had to go in common staff room and then, at the end, I had to report principal office in 1st building at the departure time. This was the regular routine in whole last cession of 2008-2009 which was obviously very tidy for me. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Hi Kanchan, I fully agree with you. I have been teaching in a college for the last thirty years and my lectures are spread over all the three buildings of the college, and many times, my one lecture is on the third floor of one building and the next lecture is on the third floor of another building. But to maintain parity with others, I never grumbled about this situation. I will never prefer any type of segregation due to my own demands. Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar - Original Message - From: pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Hi, Everything seems to be working towards a better tomorrow. Only one thing I am not sure of Rakesh. Should you have a seperate staff room for the visually challenged teachers? I would like to know what others think. My present thought is that maybe it is convenient but is this not exclusion and segregation. Kanchan - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: rambabu adikesavalu rambabu_...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 20:56 Subject: Re: [AI] Happy Teachers Day Hi, Thanks and same to you and also other teachers / professors In one hand, Being a teacher of political science, this should be my very first lesson for all my students to aware them about their rights and duties and specially how to use their rights with obeying their duties too. In my opinion, this is the main challenge before us. But in other hand, due to having visually challenged person, at present, I and lots of us have to face various problems in our working institutions, society and even our own family too, specially for getting equal opportunities with dignity and honor, making our personal identity for positive works etc. However, We must have to fight more against different type of exploitations with firmed decision and extraordinary patience because we are in minority and our any harsh behavior may give wrong message to any part of society, who use to try to generalize our any weakness with whole community of Visually challenged persons. Here, I would like to share some recent positive results with all of you. May be, some friends know this fact that my nearest bank Bank of Baroda Dilshad Garden Branch Delhi refused to
Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day
This is the alternate result, until the reshifting common staff room in 2nd building. The idea of establishing separate staff room for VH teachers has been made after almost 8 months from shifting the common staff room in third building from second building and no VH person can come from that building to any other building without taking the help of any other normal person, while VH person can go freely to second building from principal office in 1st building in normal circumstances, although in rainy days, it is also not possible. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: surya prakash sharma surya.sharm...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Hi, being a visually challanged person we have to struggle for our rights. I congratulate you for a successful struggle. but I am still not agree to the idea of a seperate staff room for visually impaired teachers. regards, S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science e-mail: surya.sharm...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: AIWAB ai...@googlegroups.com; I B E U i-b-...@googlegroups.com; sayeveryth...@yahoogroups.co.in; l-...@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Yes! we have separate Staff Room officially only for VH teachers, although at present, unofficially, two nearest normal colleagues are also sitting with us. Actually, in my school, there are several alternate staff rooms have also been running in sports room, yoga room, examination room, three science labs and library except common staff room since long time. Further, for your kind information, having our strong protest, the common staff room was shifted in third building in August 12 of 2008 from second building. The distance between second and third buildings is very much and way between both buildings is not accessible due to having several mud, gutters incomplete road. non of us (VH PERSONS) can move alone between both buildings. My most classes were in second building and six continuous periods of six sections of classes 11 and 12 of 606 students, so, I had to suffer more than other VH colleagues. Therefore, after shifting common staff room in third building, Finally, my written procedure had begun against school authority at higher level with demand of reshifting the common staff room in second building after failure of our personal talk with them since last of August of 2008. But, unfortunately, I haven't received any positive response from higher authorities of our department till first week of April 2009, although surprisingly an objectionable show cause notice from Deputy Director of Education (North-East) had been served to me on dated 04-04-2009 in response of unknown complain of my school authority with wrongly supposing my three false convictions in advance: irregular in my classes, busy in my mobile during school time and misbehaving with my students. I sent the copy of reply of show cause notice with enclosing with several previous written request letters before Hon'ble LG of NCT DELHI with mentioning some important facts: Firstly, I should not be convicted by any authority before giving me opportunity to defend myself. Secondly, No information has been given to me by any authority about any complain against me till date. Thirdly, norms and guidelines under CCS conduct rules (1964) has not been followed by concerned authority in this matter. Fourthly, Non of any step has been taken till date by any concerned authority to minimize extraordinary burden of teaching six sections of classes 11 and 12 of 606 students from me. Beside of it, I sent following letter to all concerned authorities on Dated 13-04-2009 with five requests: -- **_THROUGH EMAIL / POST/ BY HAND TO, 1. HON. LG. NCT. DELHI, RAJ NIWAS MARG, DELHI110054. EMAIL: lgde...@nic.in _(BY HAND AND EMAIL SENT). 2. HON. CM. NCT. DELHI, CMO (625), CM Office, NCT. DELHI, 3rd Level, A-wing, Delhi Secretariat, I.P Estate,New Delhi110002. EMAIL: cmde...@nic.in _(Mail ID: 1304200900045 SENT). 3. HON. M.O.E. NCT. DELHI (5005010), ROOM NO. 602, 6th Level, A-wing, Delhi Secretariat, I.P Estate,New Delhi110002 _(Mail ID: 1304200900044 SENT). 4. D.E. NCT. DELHI (501), OLD SECRETARIAT, DELHI-110054 _(BY HAND AND Mail ID: 1304200900042 DELIVERED). 5. D.D.E. NORTH-EAST (5001003), DISTRICT NORTH-EAST, YAMUNA VIHAR, DELHI-110053 _(BY HAND AND Mail ID: 1304200900038 SENT). 6. THE PRINCIPAL, GBSSS SEEMAPURI-1106009, DELHI-110095 PHONE: 22355423 (TIMINGS: 01:00 AM-06:30 PM) [BY HAND AND MAIL ID: 1304200900035 SENT]. Monday, April 13, 2009 SUBJECT: REQUEST FOR ISSUING STRICT DIRECTIONS FOR MAKING PROPER ARRANGEMENT OF CLASSROOMS AND OTHER LATEST
Re: [AI] problem with windows messanger, help required
Dear Aisha, I faced the same problem until yesterday morning I could not sign in to My account. Reinstalling the application solved the problem. HTH Fayaz -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of aisha sahani Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 6:12 PM To: accessindia Subject: [AI] problem with windows messanger, help required hey everyone, I'm back again with yet another problem, and as ever hope that you'd land your hands for solving it. Coming straight away to the point. From around 15 days or something, I'm not able to log on to my windows messenger. Whenever I try to log in, the message appears as following: Signing in to .NET Messenger Service failed because the service is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later. Click the Help button to check the current .NET Service status. I'm very sure that the e-mail ID and the password are correct, yet it's not working. Please note, I'm using the default application of windows messenger what comes with windows xp sp3. This is perhaps the version 4.0 or something, if I remember correctly. Though, I have downloaded the windows live as well, as someone has suggested me a few days back, yet the same situation, as it's still denying to get log in. The version of windows live is 14.89. I am using the same gmail account for messenger from past few months, but these days only it has started creating problem. What do you guys think, am I wrong anywhere? Is there any problem with messenger itself, or I am missing anything? What should I do to revive my messenger conversations back, is there any way out? Please do help me, as I would be eagerly waiting for your responses. Aisha sahani. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind
Hi The point about segmentalization is well taken. But again, why do we tend to attach value connotations to diversity. And seeking inclusion on whose terms? I appretiate the utility of exchange and dialogue, but is it wise to give up our sense of ourselves in all this? My point is only this: efforts to carve out separate spheres for particular groups may not be discouraged. About the issue of being denied admission to other educational institutions: Well the law is there to take care of such a scenario. I'm not advocating a strict compartmentalization of society. If people deny admission only on grounds of disability, we will always have the recourse to law. Chears, Moiz. -- Moiz Tundawala 5th Year, B.A./B.Sc. LLB Hons., West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences, NUJS Bhavan, 12 LB, Sector III, Salt Lake City, Kolkata, 700 098 Ph: +919874396052 To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind
According to me, separate university for disabled is a good idea. Because they can implement various accessibility research programs for disabled. I think it is impossible to do for a normal university. As we know, all such efforts vanished into thin air at the environment of normal universities. Just use your common sense, how many universities are located around this world? How many technologies they are developing? Are they contributing any remarkable technologies for visually challenged? On 9/6/2009 5:36 PM, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan wrote: I do see the point behind those thought provoking questions. However it is important to distinguish unity from segmentelization. While it is true that civil rights movement was a remarkable step in uniting people. But at the same time we do not have different universities for blacks and whites. Nor is it desirable since such segmentelization will undermine the very objective of the civil rights movement. So is the case here and what's the point in having an university for disabled when the number of unemployed graduates among the disabled is on the increase? Regards, Vetri. - Produced in my Nokia N82. -original message- Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind From: moiz tundawalamoiztundaw...@gmail.com Date: 09/06/2009 5:19 AM Dear Vetri and George sir, I look at it slightly differently. A university which especially caters to persons with disabilities offers a unique opportunity to get us all on a common platform. Using the rights language may not be desirable all the time, but the one big problem plaguing the disability movement over the years has been the absence of unity. We haven’t really been able to present a strong joint front and make political/economic assertions against the state and persons in positions of power and authority. I was reading somewhere about the civil rights movement in the United States. People may have had issues with segregation, but then this helped the blacks to come together and collectively make demands against the establishment. Is an inclusive society as great a virtue as presented to be? I sometimes wonder. Whom do we wish to be integrated with. Who defines what the mainstream is? Are the disabled an inferior lot in themselves? Arent our identities worth preserving? If religious and linguistic minorities can have a right to establish and administer educational institutions to preserve their language and culture, shouldn’t we be similarly be encouraging such institutions catering to the particular needs of the disabled? Oh and just for everyone’s information, the news piece also says that only 50% of the seats will be reserved for persons with disabilities. So the University is not going to be as exclusive a domain for PWDs as you think it is. These are just stray thoughts. You are free to disagree. I hope I make some sense. Regards, Moiz. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day
Dear list, I completely disagree with the idea of a separate staff room for the visually impaired. We fight for integration, we don't want sympathy. I feel that the visually impaired person should have patience and courage to make the sighted counterparts to take into consideration all our problems. Thanking you - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day I am not College teacher and if any fact is wrong, it may be corrected by college teacher too. The fact about per day period is based on the statement of one of college teacher of DU, who is appointee on 2007. The fact about the students' strength is given on the bases of my college time between 1984-1987. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day On what basis you can claim that a University/college teacher has to take 2-3 classes and the strength is not more that 30 students? Please correct your facts and don't unnecessarily over-fascinate the college teaching, it is equally challenging in terms of managing and organising classes and other activities. Vikas Kapoor, MSN Id:dl_vi...@hotmail.com, YahooSkype Id: dl_vikas, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day There are some great difference between colleges and Govt schools specially in Delhi and also some in between govt schools and my school. I am not viewing so same for defending my personal point, it is based on my personal working experience of about 20 years in different 12 or 13 Govt schools, in where, I have taught. Mostly, in college, a lecturer / professor takes hardly two or three periods in a day and strength of students is not more than 30 per class. If road connectivity between two or three buildings are good and under reach of VH employees nothing is possible. But, in my present school, Principal office is in first building in where, every must has to present personally at the time of arrival and departure. Due to having vacant first period of each VH employee, all VH employees must had to go common staff room in first period. My 2nd, 3rd and 4th periods were in 2nd building, 5th and 6th periods were in third building, 7th period was in again 2nd building and in 8th period, I had to go in common staff room and then, at the end, I had to report principal office in 1st building at the departure time. This was the regular routine in whole last cession of 2008-2009 which was obviously very tidy for me. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Hi Kanchan, I fully agree with you. I have been teaching in a college for the last thirty years and my lectures are spread over all the three buildings of the college, and many times, my one lecture is on the third floor of one building and the next lecture is on the third floor of another building. But to maintain parity with others, I never grumbled about this situation. I will never prefer any type of segregation due to my own demands. Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar - Original Message - From: pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Hi, Everything seems to be working towards a better tomorrow. Only one thing I am not sure of Rakesh. Should you have a seperate staff room for the visually challenged teachers? I would like to know what others think. My present thought is that maybe it is convenient but is this not exclusion and segregation. Kanchan - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: rambabu adikesavalu rambabu_...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 20:56 Subject: Re: [AI] Happy Teachers Day Hi, Thanks and same to you and also other teachers / professors In one hand, Being a teacher of political science, this should be my very first lesson for all my students to aware them about their rights and duties and specially how to use their rights with obeying their duties too. In my opinion, this is the main challenge before us. But in other hand, due to having visually challenged person, at present, I and lots of us have to face various problems in our working institutions, society and even our own family too, specially for getting equal opportunities with dignity and honor, making our personal identity for positive
Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind
You are absolutely right, I appreciate your good comments! On 9/6/2009 2:48 PM, moiz tundawala wrote: Dear Vetri and George sir, I look at it slightly differently. A university which especially caters to persons with disabilities offers a unique opportunity to get us all on a common platform. Using the rights language may not be desirable all the time, but the one big problem plaguing the disability movement over the years has been the absence of unity. We haven’t really been able to present a strong joint front and make political/economic assertions against the state and persons in positions of power and authority. I was reading somewhere about the civil rights movement in the United States. People may have had issues with segregation, but then this helped the blacks to come together and collectively make demands against the establishment. Is an inclusive society as great a virtue as presented to be? I sometimes wonder. Whom do we wish to be integrated with. Who defines what the mainstream is? Are the disabled an inferior lot in themselves? Arent our identities worth preserving? If religious and linguistic minorities can have a right to establish and administer educational institutions to preserve their language and culture, shouldn’t we be similarly be encouraging such institutions catering to the particular needs of the disabled? Oh and just for everyone’s information, the news piece also says that only 50% of the seats will be reserved for persons with disabilities. So the University is not going to be as exclusive a domain for PWDs as you think it is. These are just stray thoughts. You are free to disagree. I hope I make some sense. Regards, Moiz. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind
Yes I also agree with your point. -- Thanks Sandeep Kaler, Project Manager, IT DTB Library National Association for the Blind, Sec-5, R.K. Puram New Delhi- 22 India website: www.nabdelhi.org Personal E-Mail: sandeepka...@gmail.com Office Phone: +91 11 26102944, Mobile: +91 98 730 95 104 - Original Message - From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled,the first university of its kind Instead of being university for the disabled it can be called university for disability studies it could have been much better for not many universities specialise in this. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of moiz tundawala Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:31 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled,the first university of its kind -- Forwarded message -- From: Aparajita Das aparajitaso...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:12:53 +0530 Subject: Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind To: moiz tundawalla moiztundaw...@gmail.com, Omkar Nisal omkar.ni...@gmail.com, Omkar Dastane omkar.dast...@gmail.com, deepak.bumbumbh...@gmail.com, Nikhil Arya nikkhil.a...@gmail.com, YoGiNi ArYa yogini.nik...@gmail.com -- Forwarded message -- From: Shampa Sengupta sham...@vsnl.com Date: Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:44 PM Subject: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind To: sruti-disability-rig...@googlegroups.com, campaigners-for-inclus...@googlegroups.com - Original Message - *From:* Mahesh Chandrasekaradvocacy.cbrfo...@gmail.com *Sent:* Friday, September 04, 2009 6:46 PM *Subject:* University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind Dear Friends, When the world is screaming for inclusion, mainstreaming, human rights, social understanding of disability - here is a classic Rs. 397 Crore Phase 1 Indian story ...*University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind in Lucknow.* Jai ho, Mahesh *University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind * LUCKNOW: In a bid to usher in a ray of hope among physically challenged in the state, Dr Shakuntala Misra Rehabilitation University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind was on Friday inaugurated here. Speaking during the inaugural function, Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Mayawati said that the university would provide quality education to the disabled, so as to help them get better employment opportunities and make them self reliant. This university would also help create a better educational system for the disabled, the CM said adding that her government has taken a number of steps for providing disabled students better facilities and has got them implemented in record time. Mayawati also claimed that the steps taken by the government for the welfare of the disabled was being lauded even at the national level and also gave a detailed account of them. Terming the said university as only of its kind in Asia, she said that in order to ensure smooth functioning of the varsity, her government has arranged Rs 397 crores in the first phase. Fifty per cent seats would be reserved for the disabled students in all the courses out of which fifty per cent would be reserved for the blind, she said adding that in the first year it would run six courses including B.Ed. The university would have a special faculty for studies of subjects related to disabilities with separate departments for different disabilities. A research wing for studies on how to overcome various disabilities would also be opened, she added. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/lucknow/Rehabilitation-Univ ersity-for-Disabled-inaugurated/articleshow/4972425.cms -- C. Mahesh Advocacy Coordinator CBR Forum 14, CK Garden, St. Thomas Town Post Wheeler Road Extension Bangalore - 560 084 Tel - 080- 2549 7387 or 2549 7388 advocacy.cbrfo...@gmail.com ad...@cbrforum.in www.cbrforum.in The issue is not the absence of equal rights but the inability to exercise them When Policies weaken, Rights must be strengthened --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Campaigners for Inclusion group. To post to this group, send email to campaigners-for-inclus...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to campaigners-for-inclusion+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcampaigners-for-i nclusion%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.co.in/group/campaigners-for-inclusion?hl=en-GB -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- -- Moiz Tundawala 5th Year, B.A./B.Sc. LLB Hons., West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences, NUJS Bhavan,
Re: [AI] Publishers and Authors who are with bookshare
Hello aisha You can contact with Saksham. Contact person Anubhav -- Thanks Sandeep Kaler, Project Manager, IT DTB Library National Association for the Blind, Sec-5, R.K. Puram New Delhi- 22 India website: www.nabdelhi.org Personal E-Mail: sandeepka...@gmail.com Office Phone: +91 11 26102944, Mobile: +91 98 730 95 104 - Original Message - From: aisha sahani mailtoaishasah...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Publishers and Authors who are with bookshare hmm, sounds good, may i know, how can i register with bookshare? ok, i've done with the question, why to have extra chats. take care everyone, aisha sahani On 9/5/09, Anubhav Mitra anubhavmitra9...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hello all The publishers who have signed up with Bookshare so far are 1. Seasons 2. East-West 3. Orient Blackswan 4. OUP 5. Sheth Publications 6. Leadstart 7. Zubaan 8. Sahitya Akademy 9. Westland publications 10. Pratham -for their creative commons titles Authors- 1 Dr.Murugan, 2 Arvind Gupta, 3 Radha Padmanabhan, 4 Sujatha Padmanabhan Thanks Anubhav Mitra To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] problem with windows messanger, help required
what to reinstall? windows live, or the default windows messanger comes with windows xp? i've tryed reinstalling windows live just now, still no solution. don't know how to reinstall the windows messanger though. aisha sahani. On 9/6/09, Fayaz Pasha charmingboy...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Aisha, I faced the same problem until yesterday morning I could not sign in to My account. Reinstalling the application solved the problem. HTH Fayaz -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of aisha sahani Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 6:12 PM To: accessindia Subject: [AI] problem with windows messanger, help required hey everyone, I'm back again with yet another problem, and as ever hope that you'd land your hands for solving it. Coming straight away to the point. From around 15 days or something, I'm not able to log on to my windows messenger. Whenever I try to log in, the message appears as following: Signing in to .NET Messenger Service failed because the service is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later. Click the Help button to check the current .NET Service status. I'm very sure that the e-mail ID and the password are correct, yet it's not working. Please note, I'm using the default application of windows messenger what comes with windows xp sp3. This is perhaps the version 4.0 or something, if I remember correctly. Though, I have downloaded the windows live as well, as someone has suggested me a few days back, yet the same situation, as it's still denying to get log in. The version of windows live is 14.89. I am using the same gmail account for messenger from past few months, but these days only it has started creating problem. What do you guys think, am I wrong anywhere? Is there any problem with messenger itself, or I am missing anything? What should I do to revive my messenger conversations back, is there any way out? Please do help me, as I would be eagerly waiting for your responses. Aisha sahani. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day
First of all, please don't generalise things on the statement of just only one teacher, particularly if you are likely to present the facts/your views before a public forum, and the timetable allotted to a particular teacher in a college/university may very considerably. Secondly, the time you mentioned about the strength of the students is too old and the circumstances that we have today are very much different from what you had in your time. Therefore, I strongly urge you to update your knowledge about certain facts. In the third place, and also about the gist of this discourse, I think the VI people, be it in a school or college/university, under all circumstances must have the privilege to be having a separate room for simply there are certain special needs/activities which could be facilitated only by having a separate place, but this should in no way be construed with having a separate staffroom or a segregated place. I think quite often, we over-emphasize certain things which are associated with doing something with the people with vision impairment in the notion of presenting ourselves as equal with the rest of the society. I can very well justify my statement by explaining what exactly happens in a staffroom in most of the school/college/universities, for example in my case only, the kind of noise that we witness in our staffroom, it is almost impossible to hear anything with the help of any screen reading software, therefore, one must certainly have an opportunity for doing things honestly if one wishes to do in a conducive environment. and, in order to be able to work in such environment, special people should be given special environment in the same way as we'd like to argue special people should be equipped with special devices to enable them to have a better opportunity to be able to give their best performance. Therefore, demanding a separate place for the people with visual impairment shouldn't be considered as an offense. Vikas Kapoor, MSN Id:dl_vi...@hotmail.com, YahooSkype Id: dl_vikas, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day I am not College teacher and if any fact is wrong, it may be corrected by college teacher too. The fact about per day period is based on the statement of one of college teacher of DU, who is appointee on 2007. The fact about the students' strength is given on the bases of my college time between 1984-1987. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day On what basis you can claim that a University/college teacher has to take 2-3 classes and the strength is not more that 30 students? Please correct your facts and don't unnecessarily over-fascinate the college teaching, it is equally challenging in terms of managing and organising classes and other activities. Vikas Kapoor, MSN Id:dl_vi...@hotmail.com, YahooSkype Id: dl_vikas, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day There are some great difference between colleges and Govt schools specially in Delhi and also some in between govt schools and my school. I am not viewing so same for defending my personal point, it is based on my personal working experience of about 20 years in different 12 or 13 Govt schools, in where, I have taught. Mostly, in college, a lecturer / professor takes hardly two or three periods in a day and strength of students is not more than 30 per class. If road connectivity between two or three buildings are good and under reach of VH employees nothing is possible. But, in my present school, Principal office is in first building in where, every must has to present personally at the time of arrival and departure. Due to having vacant first period of each VH employee, all VH employees must had to go common staff room in first period. My 2nd, 3rd and 4th periods were in 2nd building, 5th and 6th periods were in third building, 7th period was in again 2nd building and in 8th period, I had to go in common staff room and then, at the end, I had to report principal office in 1st building at the departure time. This was the regular routine in whole last cession of 2008-2009 which was obviously very tidy for me. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Hi Kanchan, I fully agree with you. I have been teaching in a college for the last
Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day
Vikas, I am only referring to your third point. When I asked Rakesh the question I wanted to know exactly what you have answered. A vi student needs some place to work seperately and so does a vi teacher. I cant work if my staff is talking.So we have to balance the general with the segregated. Unfortunately the discussion went off on a tangent. I just wanted to highlight that we have to be careful for what we demand. I also wanted to hear others opinion on the point. Kanchan - Original Message - From: Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com To: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 22:13 Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day First of all, please don't generalise things on the statement of just only one teacher, particularly if you are likely to present the facts/your views before a public forum, and the timetable allotted to a particular teacher in a college/university may very considerably. Secondly, the time you mentioned about the strength of the students is too old and the circumstances that we have today are very much different from what you had in your time. Therefore, I strongly urge you to update your knowledge about certain facts. In the third place, and also about the gist of this discourse, I think the VI people, be it in a school or college/university, under all circumstances must have the privilege to be having a separate room for simply there are certain special needs/activities which could be facilitated only by having a separate place, but this should in no way be construed with having a separate staffroom or a segregated place. I think quite often, we over-emphasize certain things which are associated with doing something with the people with vision impairment in the notion of presenting ourselves as equal with the rest of the society. I can very well justify my statement by explaining what exactly happens in a staffroom in most of the school/college/universities, for example in my case only, the kind of noise that we witness in our staffroom, it is almost impossible to hear anything with the help of any screen reading software, therefore, one must certainly have an opportunity for doing things honestly if one wishes to do in a conducive environment. and, in order to be able to work in such environment, special people should be given special environment in the same way as we'd like to argue special people should be equipped with special devices to enable them to have a better opportunity to be able to give their best performance. Therefore, demanding a separate place for the people with visual impairment shouldn't be considered as an offense. Vikas Kapoor, MSN Id:dl_vi...@hotmail.com, YahooSkype Id: dl_vikas, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day I am not College teacher and if any fact is wrong, it may be corrected by college teacher too. The fact about per day period is based on the statement of one of college teacher of DU, who is appointee on 2007. The fact about the students' strength is given on the bases of my college time between 1984-1987. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day On what basis you can claim that a University/college teacher has to take 2-3 classes and the strength is not more that 30 students? Please correct your facts and don't unnecessarily over-fascinate the college teaching, it is equally challenging in terms of managing and organising classes and other activities. Vikas Kapoor, MSN Id:dl_vi...@hotmail.com, YahooSkype Id: dl_vikas, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day There are some great difference between colleges and Govt schools specially in Delhi and also some in between govt schools and my school. I am not viewing so same for defending my personal point, it is based on my personal working experience of about 20 years in different 12 or 13 Govt schools, in where, I have taught. Mostly, in college, a lecturer / professor takes hardly two or three periods in a day and strength of students is not more than 30 per class. If road connectivity between two or three buildings are good and under reach of VH employees nothing is possible. But, in my present school, Principal office is in first building in where, every must has to present personally at the time of arrival and departure. Due to having vacant first period of each VH employee, all VH employees must had to go common staff room in first period. My
Re: [AI] scanner
On 9/5/09, Rajpal rajpal...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Sanjeev, Please don't purchase combine scanner and printer ai think this is a problematic thing. Have a laser printer of HP and scanner of plusteck. I have recently purchased this scanner one of our list member Mr. Mukesh Gautam. This is a nice scanner. Mukeshji kindly throw some lite on this scanner because you are an actual user of this device. The caust of this scanner is 3000. Regards, Rajpal -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of sanjeev kumar Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:35 PM To: accessindia Subject: [AI] scanner dear list members, Want to buy a scanner with printer. Can you suggest me which brand is good. As per my knowledge there are two kinds of scanner 1 Ink jet, 2 lazer. which one is better and what could be the approximate cost. I will wait for your suggestions To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Rajpal thank you for your suggestion. But at my place this plusteck scanner is round about 3200 can you suggest me from where to buy it. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] about selection
hello friends which scanner is best. Dear members has suggested two three scanners now I am confused which one to buy. one is epson, second is canan and the third is plusteck scanner. Are these combined scanners really not useful? please tell me. I am in urgent need. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Friends I want to know with which software a visually andhearing impaired person works on a computer
Braille displa is the onl option for them. Sense Inernational Ahmedabad or HKI in Mumbai can provide more details on education and facilities. Thanks Dipendra -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of phani srikanth Sent: 05 September 2009 17:15 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Friends I want to know with which software a visually andhearing impaired person works on a computer may be braille displays: using their fingers only might be the solution experienced users please give your view On 9/5/09, tiku raj tiku...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I am back after a very long time, hope all are fine and doing well. I would to know how a hearing and visually impaired person work on a computer those who are aware can throw some light on this. Is there is some special software? Visually impaired can work with the help of Jaws, but a visually impaired and hearing impaired cannot work with jaws. Anybody working with such software can throw some light and respond as soon as possible.' With regards, Tiku To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org .in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4401 (20090906) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4401 (20090906) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] regarding talks software:
Below is the part of talks manual: 4.1.16 View information and configure roles for displayed objects (Premium Edition only) 4.1.16.1 The Object Viewer The TALKS software enables you to obtain a list of all the objects displayed on the screen in the order in which they appear regardless of whether TALKS reads them out. You can access various kinds of information about each object on the screen, add text replacements to the dictionary, and add labels to unlabeled icons. You can even change the role of the displayed objects for a specific part of the underlying application, and thus influence the speech output that TALKS generates for this application. These features are particularly helpful for experienced users who are working with third-party applications that are not yet fully supported by TALKS. To obtain a list of the objects displayed on your phone's screen, press [ TALKS],[Long Select] in any application except the TALKSZOOMS Settings dialog box. The Object Viewer dialog box appears, displaying all the objects of the types that TALKS recognizes, in the order in which they appear on the screen (from top to bottom and left to right). The first line of this list is special: It displays the ID of the underlying application screen, and the ID of that application. Role changes apply to any screen of the application with an identical screen ID. Pressing [Select] on this first line allows opening the app-specific settings list (see section 3.7), and resetting all object roles to their default. To close the Object Viewer, press [Key 2] (Done). Note: The Object Viewer cannot display objects on web pages. Thus, if th application is no a web site that you re trying to view on the web browser, then have a look further in the manual where things are defined to asign speech output to objects. Thanks Dipendra -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pavan kumar Sent: 04 September 2009 21:05 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] regarding talks software: hello hi friends, I am using Nokia 6681 mobile and using talks premium version. Talks software is not reading all issues like portpolio managing services and graphics etc. I want to know which software is supporting to read out all graphics. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4401 (20090906) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4401 (20090906) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] scanner
On 9/6/09, sanjeev kumar sanjeevkumar0...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/5/09, Rajpal rajpal...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Sanjeev, Please don't purchase combine scanner and printer ai think this is a problematic thing. Have a laser printer of HP and scanner of plusteck. I have recently purchased this scanner one of our list member Mr. Mukesh Gautam. This is a nice scanner. Mukeshji kindly throw some lite on this scanner because you are an actual user of this device. The caust of this scanner is 3000. Regards, Rajpal -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of sanjeev kumar Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:35 PM To: accessindia Subject: [AI] scanner dear list members, Want to buy a scanner with printer. Can you suggest me which brand is good. As per my knowledge there are two kinds of scanner 1 Ink jet, 2 lazer. which one is better and what could be the approximate cost. I will wait for your suggestions To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Rajpal thank you for your suggestion. But at my place this plusteck scanner is round about 3200 can you suggest me from where to buy it. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Hello friends, As far my knowledge is concern, Canon is the best but not available in the market. The next option is I feel better Epson TX101 scanner and printer. It is also very good model which I am using at present. It is very quick and accurate. Its price Rs. 3500. Ink zet is cost effective. whereas lazer is not. Feel free to ask me any further suggestions at 9441013400 Yours, Surya. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day
Hi Kanchan and others, What we demand, it depends on matter to matter. As far concerned to my matter, following points should be mainly noted: 1. Each employee has use to report directly to Principal Office at arrival and departure time about his or her presence in everyday and princile office is in first building. 2. Each teacher has to be present in whole school time in at least five and half hours, whether his or her period is vacant or not. 3. Each teacher have to complete the syllabus of his or her subject in limited time which is prescribed in Week Wise syllabus of concerned subject. 4. No proper connectivinity path properly maintained between First and third building and Second and third building, so that non of any totally VH person can move in same without taking help of other normal colleague. 5. only VH employees were suffering much in comparison with normal employees specially for his teaching performance in their classes and also from toilet problem (because no toilet was available in third building), so that normal employees / teachers did not raise this demand to reshift the common staff room in its previous place. While, Vh teachers were fully depended on their students for visiting their regular classes and due to not having satisfactory environment of study in my school, mostly students did not take interest for attending their classes regularly. So, students did same according to pre-expectation. 6. If any teacher finds absent without any specific reason in his class during routine visit by school authority or surprised inspection by any higher authority of our department, any disciplinary action may be taken against the concerned teacher. 7. Finally, There is great difference between Vh teacher and Vh students specially at school level. There is no vacant period for any vh students, while some vacant periods are given to each teacher. Normal teacher can use better their vacant periods, but lack of some facilities related to basic instruments for VH persons, VH teachers can not do the same in specially Govt schools of Delhi. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Vikas, I am only referring to your third point. When I asked Rakesh the question I wanted to know exactly what you have answered. A vi student needs some place to work seperately and so does a vi teacher. I cant work if my staff is talking.So we have to balance the general with the segregated. Unfortunately the discussion went off on a tangent. I just wanted to highlight that we have to be careful for what we demand. I also wanted to hear others opinion on the point. Kanchan - Original Message - From: Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com To: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 22:13 Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day First of all, please don't generalise things on the statement of just only one teacher, particularly if you are likely to present the facts/your views before a public forum, and the timetable allotted to a particular teacher in a college/university may very considerably. Secondly, the time you mentioned about the strength of the students is too old and the circumstances that we have today are very much different from what you had in your time. Therefore, I strongly urge you to update your knowledge about certain facts. In the third place, and also about the gist of this discourse, I think the VI people, be it in a school or college/university, under all circumstances must have the privilege to be having a separate room for simply there are certain special needs/activities which could be facilitated only by having a separate place, but this should in no way be construed with having a separate staffroom or a segregated place. I think quite often, we over-emphasize certain things which are associated with doing something with the people with vision impairment in the notion of presenting ourselves as equal with the rest of the society. I can very well justify my statement by explaining what exactly happens in a staffroom in most of the school/college/universities, for example in my case only, the kind of noise that we witness in our staffroom, it is almost impossible to hear anything with the help of any screen reading software, therefore, one must certainly have an opportunity for doing things honestly if one wishes to do in a conducive environment. and, in order to be able to work in such environment, special people should be given special environment in the same way as we'd like to argue special people should be equipped with special devices to enable them to have a better opportunity to be able to give their best performance. Therefore, demanding a separate place for the people with visual impairment shouldn't be
Re: [AI] AccessIndia Digest, Vol 41, Issue 27
Hello friends, This is Jayachandran. I have a problem in receiving accessindia mails. The mails are put together in a single mail listed as topic 1,2,3,4,etc., But some of my friends are receiving the mails from AI as seperate mails for seperate topic. I would like to switch over to that method of receiving mails. Could anybody of you guide me what I have to do in order to receive that type of mails. Please throw light in this regard. I request our moderator to guide me in this issue. Thanks in advance. regards Jayachandran. State Bank of India, Chennai. 9677294410 / 9043184745 Res : 044 23633014 Skype ID: jayachandran1977 E mail.: jayachandran1...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 8:16 AM Subject: AccessIndia Digest, Vol 41, Issue 27 Send AccessIndia mailing list submissions to accessindia@accessindia.org.in To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in You can reach the person managing the list at accessindia-ow...@accessindia.org.in When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of AccessIndia digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: staff room Happy Teachers Day (Rakesh Kumar Gupta) 2. Re: problem with windows messanger, help required (Fayaz Pasha) 3. Re: Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first universityof its kind (moiz tundawala) 4. Re: Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind (Naushad) 5. Re: staff room Happy Teachers Day (Lissy Verghese) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 20:06:28 +0530 From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: 008401ca2eff$6ddb7ec0$0401a...@rakesh Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response This is the alternate result, until the reshifting common staff room in 2nd building. The idea of establishing separate staff room for VH teachers has been made after almost 8 months from shifting the common staff room in third building from second building and no VH person can come from that building to any other building without taking the help of any other normal person, while VH person can go freely to second building from principal office in 1st building in normal circumstances, although in rainy days, it is also not possible. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: surya prakash sharma surya.sharm...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Hi, being a visually challanged person we have to struggle for our rights. I congratulate you for a successful struggle. but I am still not agree to the idea of a seperate staff room for visually impaired teachers. regards, S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science e-mail: surya.sharm...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: AIWAB ai...@googlegroups.com; I B E U i-b-...@googlegroups.com; sayeveryth...@yahoogroups.co.in; l-...@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Yes! we have separate Staff Room officially only for VH teachers, although at present, unofficially, two nearest normal colleagues are also sitting with us. Actually, in my school, there are several alternate staff rooms have also been running in sports room, yoga room, examination room, three science labs and library except common staff room since long time. Further, for your kind information, having our strong protest, the common staff room was shifted in third building in August 12 of 2008 from second building. The distance between second and third buildings is very much and way between both buildings is not accessible due to having several mud, gutters incomplete road. non of us (VH PERSONS) can move alone between both buildings. My most classes were in second building and six continuous periods of six sections of classes 11 and 12 of 606 students, so, I had to suffer more than other VH colleagues. Therefore, after shifting common staff room in third building, Finally, my written procedure had begun against school authority at higher level with demand of reshifting the common staff room in second building after failure of our personal talk with them since last of August of 2008. But, unfortunately, I haven't received any positive response from higher authorities of our department till first week of April 2009, although surprisingly an objectionable show cause notice
Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day
Hi Kanchan On one hand we demand inclusion in all respects including inclusive education, inclusive employment, however once in, why should we start demanding exclusive staff rooms. If we believe in true philosophy of inclusion, then perhaps being with every one in the common staff room would be the right decision. Also this would promote further inclusion and acceptance by fellow teachers, else you remain excluded. This is promoted despite the fact that special schools and exclusive rooms may be very convenient to the users! regards 2009/9/6 pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com Hi, Everything seems to be working towards a better tomorrow. Only one thing I am not sure of Rakesh. Should you have a seperate staff room for the visually challenged teachers? I would like to know what others think. My present thought is that maybe it is convenient but is this not exclusion and segregation. Kanchan - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: rambabu adikesavalu rambabu_...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 20:56 Subject: Re: [AI] Happy Teachers Day Hi, Thanks and same to you and also other teachers / professors In one hand, Being a teacher of political science, this should be my very first lesson for all my students to aware them about their rights and duties and specially how to use their rights with obeying their duties too. In my opinion, this is the main challenge before us. But in other hand, due to having visually challenged person, at present, I and lots of us have to face various problems in our working institutions, society and even our own family too, specially for getting equal opportunities with dignity and honor, making our personal identity for positive works etc. However, We must have to fight more against different type of exploitations with firmed decision and extraordinary patience because we are in minority and our any harsh behavior may give wrong message to any part of society, who use to try to generalize our any weakness with whole community of Visually challenged persons. Here, I would like to share some recent positive results with all of you. May be, some friends know this fact that my nearest bank Bank of Baroda Dilshad Garden Branch Delhi refused to provide me ATM/ Debit card and internetbanking facilities in August of last year. Now, after long positive fight against the negative attitude of the bank and interference of RBI (NEW DELHI BRANCH), my bank branch has issued me ATM/DEBIT CARD on today, although struggle against delaying for providing internetbanking facility is still continued. Another news, my present working school is running in four buildings and in where, we four Visually Challenged teachers are working at present. We all VH teachers have been compeled to take our classes at least in three buildings since long time. After completing long writing process to higher authorities of our Delhi Government, all classes, to which we VH teachers teach, have been shifted in one building and one separate Staff Room has also been alotted to us in same building in July of this year. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: rambabu adikesavalu rambabu_...@yahoo.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:48 PM Subject: [AI] Happy Teachers Day Dear Friends, I wish all the Teacher-members on the list a very very Happy Teachers Day. Today is the day for 'Self-introspection' for all of us belonging to a profession which deserves more recognition than it currently enjoys. I am pasting a poem which was I recieved from an online networking forum named Bookbole.com. Teachers are one of the greatest people we come across in life. They are selfless givers and mentors for life. At every step, you come across teachers who devote their entire life to the enlightenment of students. We are indeed honoured to share with you a poem titled Treasure Trove of Books by Leela Jacob, an English teacher from Bhavan's Public School, Baroda. Treasure Trove of Books Deprived of eyesight, Milton didn't falter. He reached his height With Paradise Lost, And Paradise Regained, later. Books galore await your pleasure, A feast for the inner eye. Dive for the bountiful treasure, Savour the thrill to the full, Till you reach as high as the Sky. For you we have 'bookbole', Technology at your doorstep. Everything is easily available. Flex your intellectual muscles, Till you plumb your own depth. Team Bookbole With regards and best wishes, Dr. A.Rambabu, Assistant Professor, CSSEIP, TISS, Mumbai Phone: 09969747312. Office: 022-25525329. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at
Re: [AI] Your suggestion required
It is a poorly drafted, more poorly interpreted and still more poorly implemented section which has caused so many miseries. And, moreover, in India, even for a constitutional amendment or a law to be implemented, we require enactments, bylaws rules and so on apart from a host of committees and subcommittees. So, it is high time we suggest rational amendments to MSJE which is supposedly taking up amendments to PWD act, or possibly enacting a brand new enactment. The suggestion about scribe to substitute section 31 should include: A. discretion of candidate to accept the scribe provided by exam body or to bring her own scribe. b. obligation on all examining bodies to permit/[provide the scribe. C. Safeguards to ensure competence when candidate aggress to use scribe provided D. conditions in the form of juniority when using scribe from same discipline of one's own choice. Rajesh Asudani Assistant General Manager (PPS), Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 Doth God exact day-labour, light denied? John Milton -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of surya prakash sharma Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 9:33 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Your suggestion required Hi, it is the duty of every educational institution to provide with the scribe to the VI persons. the relevant section from the PWD act 1995 is copyed below: 31. All educational institutions shall provide or cause to be provided amanuensis to blind students and students with low vision. regards, S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science e-mail: surya.sharm...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: [AI] Your suggestion required Dear A I friends, This is routine problem of many blind students. I do not know that it is discussed or not.I would like to know that is there any proper guideline is available for scribe? I have asked many organizations working for the blind but I could not find any such document. So if anybody have such kind of any information please tell me. Or it is not there we should do something. Because it is not only my problem, many blind students are suffering because of this problem. There are some universities witch are not ready to listen us. If we get proper circular we can fight against such universities. Hope we all will think for this are own problem. I think there are many A I members who can do something for it. If we can do something for this problem from this platform it will help a lot. Please reply. your friend jignesh. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Happy Teachers Day
Well Subramani Firstly, I do not agree with US researcher's claim that every one would learn from best minds of the world by downloading from utube etc. Personal touch is something which can not be replaced by technology. Technology may even allow interactivity, but not every one receives the teaching and explanation in a uniform way. The great job of teacher lies in ensuring that most of her students assimilate the learning at some level. This, I am not sure, a video delivered from a far in another cultural context can achieve. Interactivity is also not up to the mark in such lectures. We are, at any rate, grossly overestimating the reach and affordability of technology. So much about India becoming a superpower by 2020 Moreover, not only VI teachers but all teachers are confronted with commercialization and modernization of teaching methods. Further, I would like to ask our VI lecturers teaching in Universities or affiliated colleges, are they getting about Rs. 1800 or Rs. 1200 for college lecturers as reader's allowance? Many times this particular scheme of UGC is not implemented, and now that it has been merged in general grants, I see poor chances of its implementation. regards Rajesh Asudani Assistant General Manager (PPS), Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 Doth God exact day-labour, light denied? John Milton -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:15 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Happy Teachers Day I feel VI teachers must take this opportunity to reflect particularly on how the role of teachers and the service of teaching has changed drastically with the advent of internet and technology. There is a researcher in the US who has predicted that Universities as we know them today may be dead in 20 years time. Imagine, if everyone were to learn from the best minds of the world --by logging on to YouTube and downloading lectures of folks from UC Berkley etc-- and listen to them in their iPods? If this is possible, then what are you going to offer as a teacher and how would you distinguish yourself in the world where teaching is nothing different from a corporate service, given that institutions today charge outrageous sums as fees. Think over. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rambabu adikesavalu Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:48 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AI] Happy Teachers Day Dear Friends, I wish all the Teacher-members on the list a very very Happy Teachers Day. Today is the day for 'Self-introspection' for all of us belonging to a profession which deserves more recognition than it currently enjoys. I am pasting a poem which was I recieved from an online networking forum named Bookbole.com. Teachers are one of the greatest people we come across in life. They are selfless givers and mentors for life. At every step, you come across teachers who devote their entire life to the enlightenment of students. We are indeed honoured to share with you a poem titled Treasure Trove of Books by Leela Jacob, an English teacher from Bhavan's Public School, Baroda. Treasure Trove of Books Deprived of eyesight, Milton didn't falter. He reached his height With Paradise Lost, And Paradise Regained, later. Books galore await your pleasure, A feast for the inner eye. Dive for the bountiful treasure, Savour the thrill to the full, Till you reach as high as the Sky. For you we have 'bookbole', Technology at your doorstep. Everything is easily available. Flex your intellectual muscles, Till you plumb your own depth. Team Bookbole With regards and best wishes, Dr. A.Rambabu, Assistant Professor, CSSEIP, TISS, Mumbai Phone: 09969747312. Office: 022-25525329. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Email secured by TPML Raksha Checkpoint To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it
Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day
Well, I know that workload in universities and colleges is not more than sixteen lectures per week. So, rakesh's contention about two-three lectures per day seems justified. I am not sure about class strength, though. Besides, unlike schools, college teaching, they say, lasts, at least practically, from jhanda to Jhanda, i.e. from Independence day to republic day. Smile. At any rate, for VI school teaching is more demanding in form of correcting notebooks assignments duration and making children assimilate learning, Me thinks. Regards Rajesh Asudani Assistant General Manager (PPS), Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 Doth God exact day-labour, light denied? John Milton -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:21 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day On what basis you can claim that a University/college teacher has to take 2-3 classes and the strength is not more that 30 students? Please correct your facts and don't unnecessarily over-fascinate the college teaching, it is equally challenging in terms of managing and organising classes and other activities. Vikas Kapoor, MSN Id:dl_vi...@hotmail.com, YahooSkype Id: dl_vikas, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day There are some great difference between colleges and Govt schools specially in Delhi and also some in between govt schools and my school. I am not viewing so same for defending my personal point, it is based on my personal working experience of about 20 years in different 12 or 13 Govt schools, in where, I have taught. Mostly, in college, a lecturer / professor takes hardly two or three periods in a day and strength of students is not more than 30 per class. If road connectivity between two or three buildings are good and under reach of VH employees nothing is possible. But, in my present school, Principal office is in first building in where, every must has to present personally at the time of arrival and departure. Due to having vacant first period of each VH employee, all VH employees must had to go common staff room in first period. My 2nd, 3rd and 4th periods were in 2nd building, 5th and 6th periods were in third building, 7th period was in again 2nd building and in 8th period, I had to go in common staff room and then, at the end, I had to report principal office in 1st building at the departure time. This was the regular routine in whole last cession of 2008-2009 which was obviously very tidy for me. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: Shyam M. Sayanekar sayane...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Hi Kanchan, I fully agree with you. I have been teaching in a college for the last thirty years and my lectures are spread over all the three buildings of the college, and many times, my one lecture is on the third floor of one building and the next lecture is on the third floor of another building. But to maintain parity with others, I never grumbled about this situation. I will never prefer any type of segregation due to my own demands. Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar - Original Message - From: pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Hi, Everything seems to be working towards a better tomorrow. Only one thing I am not sure of Rakesh. Should you have a seperate staff room for the visually challenged teachers? I would like to know what others think. My present thought is that maybe it is convenient but is this not exclusion and segregation. Kanchan - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: rambabu adikesavalu rambabu_...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 20:56 Subject: Re: [AI] Happy Teachers Day Hi, Thanks and same to you and also other teachers / professors In one hand, Being a teacher of political science, this should be my very first lesson for all my students to aware them about their rights and duties and specially how to use their rights with obeying their duties too. In my opinion, this is the main challenge before us. But in other hand, due to having visually challenged person, at present, I and lots of us have to face various problems in our working institutions, society and even our own family too, specially for getting equal opportunities with dignity and honor, making our personal identity for positive works etc. However, We must have to fight
Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day
I fully endorse Rakesh's views that what we demand is highly contextual. In his case, separate space For VI teachers was the demand, and due to shift of staff room to another poorly connected building it became pressing necessity. You cannot, in a government bureaucratic setting, make nice distinctions between staff room and separate enclosure for VI teachers. Separate quiter space for VI teacher which they can easily access is the demand and by calling it a staff room it could be obtained easily. We should refrain from needless hairsplitting, me thinks. Rajesh Asudani Assistant General Manager (PPS), Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 Doth God exact day-labour, light denied? John Milton -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rakesh Kumar Gupta Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 1:36 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Hi Kanchan and others, What we demand, it depends on matter to matter. As far concerned to my matter, following points should be mainly noted: 1. Each employee has use to report directly to Principal Office at arrival and departure time about his or her presence in everyday and princile office is in first building. 2. Each teacher has to be present in whole school time in at least five and half hours, whether his or her period is vacant or not. 3. Each teacher have to complete the syllabus of his or her subject in limited time which is prescribed in Week Wise syllabus of concerned subject. 4. No proper connectivinity path properly maintained between First and third building and Second and third building, so that non of any totally VH person can move in same without taking help of other normal colleague. 5. only VH employees were suffering much in comparison with normal employees specially for his teaching performance in their classes and also from toilet problem (because no toilet was available in third building), so that normal employees / teachers did not raise this demand to reshift the common staff room in its previous place. While, Vh teachers were fully depended on their students for visiting their regular classes and due to not having satisfactory environment of study in my school, mostly students did not take interest for attending their classes regularly. So, students did same according to pre-expectation. 6. If any teacher finds absent without any specific reason in his class during routine visit by school authority or surprised inspection by any higher authority of our department, any disciplinary action may be taken against the concerned teacher. 7. Finally, There is great difference between Vh teacher and Vh students specially at school level. There is no vacant period for any vh students, while some vacant periods are given to each teacher. Normal teacher can use better their vacant periods, but lack of some facilities related to basic instruments for VH persons, VH teachers can not do the same in specially Govt schools of Delhi. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day Vikas, I am only referring to your third point. When I asked Rakesh the question I wanted to know exactly what you have answered. A vi student needs some place to work seperately and so does a vi teacher. I cant work if my staff is talking.So we have to balance the general with the segregated. Unfortunately the discussion went off on a tangent. I just wanted to highlight that we have to be careful for what we demand. I also wanted to hear others opinion on the point. Kanchan - Original Message - From: Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com To: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 22:13 Subject: Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day First of all, please don't generalise things on the statement of just only one teacher, particularly if you are likely to present the facts/your views before a public forum, and the timetable allotted to a particular teacher in a college/university may very considerably. Secondly, the time you mentioned about the strength of the students is too old and the circumstances that we have today are very much different from what you had in your time. Therefore, I strongly urge you to update your knowledge about certain facts. In the third place, and also about the gist of this discourse, I think the VI people, be it in a school or college/university, under all circumstances must have the privilege to be having a separate room for simply there are certain special needs/activities which could be facilitated only by having a separate place, but this should in no way be construed with having a separate staffroom or a segregated
