Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-12-10 Thread pamnani
Sorry was travelling.
9821013644 preferably after 9pm.
Kanchan
- Original Message - 
From: "Rohiet A. Patil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 23:15
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


> dear kanchan  madum!
> I would like to talk with you personally on this matter. Can you mail me
> your cell number of list? PLS mail me on [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> thanks and regards,
> Rohiet Patil
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>
>
>> Vetry I have taken the suggestion of the talking calculator as point d. 
>> in
>> clause 8
>> the first point of computer malfunction I dont know what to do about it.
>> I have mentioned the UPS and the Scribe and 2 printers and 2 computers.
>> and
>> the extra time
>> Any other suggestio is welcome in case the above mentioned is not enough.
>> n
>> Kanchan Pamnani
>> Advocate & Solicitor
>> 9, Suleman Chambers,
>> Battery Street, Colaba,
>> Mumbai - 400 039.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Vetrivel Adhimoolam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>>
>>
>>> Hello Kanchan,
>>>
>>> It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers everything.
>>> But
>>> a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include 
>>> sufficient
>>> guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain delays
>>> as
>>> the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the software.
>>> Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged
>>> candidates
>>> should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the
>>> software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive of this
>>> issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly
>>> appearing
>>> on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical 
>>> problems.
>>> Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use 
>>> calculator
>>> and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also should be
>>> allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.
>>>
>>> Vetri.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: pamnani
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:04 PM
>>> Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Friends
>>> Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in India
>>> thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
>>> Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped when
>>> the
>>> Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later 
>>> than
>>> this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
>>> thanks Kanchan
>>>
>>>
>>> Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
>>>
>>>
>>> The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for 
>>> the
>>> examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are appearing
>>> for various examinations.
>>>  b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
>>>
>>>
>>>  a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various
>>> Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.
>>>
>>>
>>>  a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules
>>> and/or
>>> implement the rules in different ways.
>>>
>>>
>>>  a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account
>>>
>>>
>>>  a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the
>>> examination has to be removed
>>>
>>>
>>>  a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations
>>> themselves are varied and need to be a

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-12-08 Thread Rohiet A. Patil
dear kanchan  madum!
I would like to talk with you personally on this matter. Can you mail me 
your cell number of list? PLS mail me on [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanks and regards,
Rohiet Patil
- Original Message - 
From: "Pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


> Vetry I have taken the suggestion of the talking calculator as point d. in
> clause 8
> the first point of computer malfunction I dont know what to do about it.
> I have mentioned the UPS and the Scribe and 2 printers and 2 computers. 
> and
> the extra time
> Any other suggestio is welcome in case the above mentioned is not enough.
> n
> Kanchan Pamnani
> Advocate & Solicitor
> 9, Suleman Chambers,
> Battery Street, Colaba,
> Mumbai - 400 039.
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Vetrivel Adhimoolam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>
>
>> Hello Kanchan,
>>
>> It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers everything.
>> But
>> a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include sufficient
>> guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain delays
>> as
>> the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the software.
>> Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged
>> candidates
>> should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the
>> software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive of this
>> issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly
>> appearing
>> on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical problems.
>> Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use calculator
>> and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also should be
>> allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.
>>
>> Vetri.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: pamnani
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:04 PM
>> Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Friends
>> Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in India
>> thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
>> Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped when
>> the
>> Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later than
>> this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
>> thanks Kanchan
>>
>>
>> Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
>>
>>
>> The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for the
>> examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:
>>
>>
>>
>>  a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are appearing
>> for various examinations.
>>  b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
>>
>>
>>  a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various
>> Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.
>>
>>
>>  a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules
>> and/or
>> implement the rules in different ways.
>>
>>
>>  a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account
>>
>>
>>  a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the
>> examination has to be removed
>>
>>
>>  a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations
>> themselves are varied and need to be answered in various ways.
>>
>>
>>  a.. Competition is increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be given
>> a
>> level playing field
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This Policy will apply to all examinations being conducted in India
>> generally and specifically to examinations conducted by Educational
>> institutions- schools and  colleges (both internal and external), School
>> and
>> College Boards, universities and deemed universities, autonomous bodies
>> conducting entrance or promotional examinations as well as all
>> recruiting/promoting  authorities and any other authorities or bodies
>> under
>> which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes to appear for an examination 
>

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-12-02 Thread mahendra
it means  you know this person, and also know what she or he is capable of.
At 09:56 AM 11/29/2007, you wrote:
>Kanchan!
>If a person brings his/her own scribe, then there is no question of
>percentage?  It means.  PL clarify.
>Regards
>- Original Message -
>From: Pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 
>Sent: 29/11/2007 12:59 PM
>Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>
>
> > Sweety my dear the 55% is not for your scribe but only for the scribe
> > provided by the Authority. Your Scribe is covered in clause 3 and then if
> > you choose not to bring your own scribe then it is the authority who will
> > provide a scribe with some minimum qualifications.
> > Kanchan Pamnani
> > Advocate & Solicitor
> > 9, Suleman Chambers,
> > Battery Street, Colaba,
> > Mumbai - 400 039.
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "sweety bhalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
> >
> >
> > > Moreover the scribe with 55 % marks for examinations, it is very
>difficult
> > > to get in this time.  It should be at least 60%marks.  Telling my own
> > > experience and facing problems in my dept examinations.
> > > Regards
> > > (Sweety Bhalla)
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> > > Sent: 29/11/2007 8:56 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
> > >
> > >> Hello Kanchan,
> > >>
> > >> It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers
>everything.
> > > But
> > >> a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include
>sufficient
> > >> guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain
>delays
> > > as
> > >> the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the software.
> > >> Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged
> > > candidates
> > >> should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the
> > >> software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive of
>this
> > >> issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly
> > > appearing
> > >> on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical
>problems.
> > >> Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use
>calculator
> > >> and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also should
>be
> > >> allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.
> > >>
> > >> Vetri.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >> From: pamnani
> > >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:04 PM
> > >> Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi Friends
> > >> Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in
>India
> > >> thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
> > >> Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped
>when
> > > the
> > >> Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later
>than
> > >> this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
> > >> thanks Kanchan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for
>the
> > >> examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>   a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are
>appearing
> > >> for various examinations.
> > >>   b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>   a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various
> > >> Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>   a.. Various examination conduct

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-29 Thread Manish Agrawal
Kanchan,
>>> >
>>> > a. Visually Disabled candidates can appear in examination on the
>> computer
>>> > only if students are computer literate and can type at least at
the
>> speed of
>>> > 30 words per minute. 

The 30 words per minute restriction is not required. A student may elect
not to use a computer if he/she is not comfortable typing. On the other
hand, this may be limiting for people with orthopedic problems who may
not be able to type fast enough but may still prefer a computer to a
scribe -- in which case, they should request for more extra time instead
of being prevented the use of a computer.
The rest looks good to me.

Regards,
Manish



>>> > make
>>> > students write their examinations both in Hindi and English
mediums 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. Rohit
Trivedi
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:55 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

The examinee may be allowed to bring his own screen reading
/magnification 
software
Rohit
- Original Message - 
From: "Abdul Razique Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


> Hello kanchan mam,
> you are doing a really commendable job. It is a well drafted policy 
> barring
> few of the points which are debatable.
> 1. I stand by Pranav sir's point, of allowing extra 30 minutes per
hour
> instead of 20 minutes.
> 2. As far as the softwares are concerned, in my opinion no softwares
must 
> be
> specified as said by Puneet sir. The college/ university should
provide 
> the
> softwares which the candidate demands for. this is because all
candidates
> may not be comfortable with the specified softwares.
>
> Carry on this good work,
> Abdul
> -- Original Message - 
> From: "AMIT BHATT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>
>
>> In my opinion, when scribe is one level junior than the applicant,
>> deciding
>> the marks in percentage for writer seems illogical to me.
>> Specially, when the scribe is taken from the different stream.
Therefore,
>> the candidate should be allowed to use subscribe with whatever
maximum
>> percentage of marks.
>> In addition, I would support Pranav's point that extra 30 minutes per

>> hour
>> should be given instead of 20 minutes to the applicant.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Amit Bhatt
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "sweety bhalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>>
>>
>>> Moreover the scribe with 55 % marks for examinations, it is very
>>> difficult
>>> to get in this time.  It should be at least 60%marks.  Telling my
own
>>> experience and facing problems in my dept examinations.
>>> Regards
>>> (Sweety Bhalla)
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
>>> Sent: 29/11/2007 8:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>>>
>>> > Hello Kanchan,
>>> >
>>> > It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers
>>> > everything.
>>> But
>>> > a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include
>> sufficient
>>> > guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain
>>> > delays
>>> as
>>> > the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the
software.
>>> > Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged
>>> candidates
>>> > should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the
>>> > software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive
of
>>> > this
>>> > issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly
>>> appearing
>>> > on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical
>> problems.
>>> > Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use
>> calculator
>>> > and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also
should
>>> > be
>>> > allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.
>>> >
>>> > Vetri.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > - Original Mess

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-29 Thread Dr. Rohit Trivedi
The examinee may be allowed to bring his own screen reading /magnification 
software
Rohit
- Original Message - 
From: "Abdul Razique Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


> Hello kanchan mam,
> you are doing a really commendable job. It is a well drafted policy 
> barring
> few of the points which are debatable.
> 1. I stand by Pranav sir's point, of allowing extra 30 minutes per hour
> instead of 20 minutes.
> 2. As far as the softwares are concerned, in my opinion no softwares must 
> be
> specified as said by Puneet sir. The college/ university should provide 
> the
> softwares which the candidate demands for. this is because all candidates
> may not be comfortable with the specified softwares.
>
> Carry on this good work,
> Abdul
> -- Original Message - 
> From: "AMIT BHATT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>
>
>> In my opinion, when scribe is one level junior than the applicant,
>> deciding
>> the marks in percentage for writer seems illogical to me.
>> Specially, when the scribe is taken from the different stream. Therefore,
>> the candidate should be allowed to use subscribe with whatever maximum
>> percentage of marks.
>> In addition, I would support Pranav's point that extra 30 minutes per 
>> hour
>> should be given instead of 20 minutes to the applicant.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Amit Bhatt
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "sweety bhalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>>
>>
>>> Moreover the scribe with 55 % marks for examinations, it is very
>>> difficult
>>> to get in this time.  It should be at least 60%marks.  Telling my own
>>> experience and facing problems in my dept examinations.
>>> Regards
>>> (Sweety Bhalla)
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
>>> Sent: 29/11/2007 8:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>>>
>>> > Hello Kanchan,
>>> >
>>> > It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers
>>> > everything.
>>> But
>>> > a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include
>> sufficient
>>> > guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain
>>> > delays
>>> as
>>> > the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the software.
>>> > Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged
>>> candidates
>>> > should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the
>>> > software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive of
>>> > this
>>> > issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly
>>> appearing
>>> > on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical
>> problems.
>>> > Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use
>> calculator
>>> > and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also should
>>> > be
>>> > allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.
>>> >
>>> > Vetri.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > - Original Message -
>>> > From: pamnani
>>> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:04 PM
>>> > Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hi Friends
>>> > Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in
>>> > India
>>> > thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
>>> > Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped
>>> > when
>>> the
>>> > Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later
>> than
>>> > this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
>>> > thanks Kanchan
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
>>>

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-29 Thread Dr. Rohit Trivedi
Use of lap tops could be recommended may be with usb querty key board if the 
candidate is not comfortable with laptop layout
- Original Message - 
From: "Pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


> Vetry I have taken the suggestion of the talking calculator as point d. in
> clause 8
> the first point of computer malfunction I dont know what to do about it.
> I have mentioned the UPS and the Scribe and 2 printers and 2 computers. 
> and
> the extra time
> Any other suggestio is welcome in case the above mentioned is not enough.
> n
> Kanchan Pamnani
> Advocate & Solicitor
> 9, Suleman Chambers,
> Battery Street, Colaba,
> Mumbai - 400 039.
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Vetrivel Adhimoolam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>
>
>> Hello Kanchan,
>>
>> It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers everything.
>> But
>> a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include sufficient
>> guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain delays
>> as
>> the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the software.
>> Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged
>> candidates
>> should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the
>> software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive of this
>> issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly
>> appearing
>> on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical problems.
>> Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use calculator
>> and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also should be
>> allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.
>>
>> Vetri.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: pamnani
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:04 PM
>> Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Friends
>> Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in India
>> thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
>> Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped when
>> the
>> Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later than
>> this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
>> thanks Kanchan
>>
>>
>> Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
>>
>>
>> The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for the
>> examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:
>>
>>
>>
>>  a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are appearing
>> for various examinations.
>>  b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
>>
>>
>>  a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various
>> Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.
>>
>>
>>  a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules
>> and/or
>> implement the rules in different ways.
>>
>>
>>  a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account
>>
>>
>>  a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the
>> examination has to be removed
>>
>>
>>  a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations
>> themselves are varied and need to be answered in various ways.
>>
>>
>>  a.. Competition is increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be given
>> a
>> level playing field
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This Policy will apply to all examinations being conducted in India
>> generally and specifically to examinations conducted by Educational
>> institutions- schools and  colleges (both internal and external), School
>> and
>> College Boards, universities and deemed universities, autonomous bodies
>> conducting entrance or promotional examinations as well as all
>> recruiting/promoting  authorities and any other authorities or bodies
>> under
>> which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes to appear for an examination 
>> for
>> any purpose whatsoever. The paramount purpose of the Policy is to
>

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-29 Thread Dr. Rohit Trivedi
Excellent effort. training /awareness of examining authorities invigilators 
controllers of exams etc should be added.
List of assistive devices could be suggested or disability assistive 
technology experts could also be included in committees advisory bodies.
- Original Message - 
From: "nafisa buhariwala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


>
> Well drafted Kanchan. Seems to cover all points.Only a small modification 
> as regards Screen Readers. Mention JAWS or any other screen reading 
> software the candidate is comfortable with. If they get stuck to the word 
> JAWS and not allow Window Eyes someone like me will be miserable.
> Nafisa> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:34:02 +0530> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams 
> urgent> > > Hi Friends > Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the 
> Visually disabled in India thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, 
> Dipendra, Harish, Ketan, Neha, Pranav, Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and 
> numerous others who helped when the Maharashtra Guidelines were being 
> framed. > > > > Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently 
> and no later than this evening. I need to send it to the Disability 
> commission. > thanks Kanchan > > > Policy for Examination of the Visually 
> Disabled> > > The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout 
> India for the examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since: 
>  > > > > a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are 
> appearing for various examinations. > b.. Number of examining bodies has 
> been increasing over the years> > > a.. Various 
> orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various 
> Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal. > > 
>  > a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules 
> and/or implement the rules in different ways. > > > a.. Technology is 
> improving and needs to be taken into account> > > a.. The anxiety suffered 
> by the examinees before and during the examination has to be removed> > > 
> a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations 
> themselves are varied and need to be answered in various ways. > > > a.. 
> Competition is increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be given a 
> level playing field > > > > > This Policy will apply to all examinations 
> being conducted in India generally and specifically to examinations 
> conducted by Educational institutions- schools and colleges (both internal 
> and external), School and College Boards, universities and deemed 
> universities, autonomous bodies conducting entrance or promotional 
> examinations as well as all recruiting/promoting authorities and any other 
> authorities or bodies under which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes to 
> appear for an examination for any purpose whatsoever. The paramount 
> purpose of the Policy is to alleviate the hardship being caused to the 
> Visually disabled candidate due to uncertainty in policy and to mitigate 
> the effects of a disability. > > > > > > 1. Scribe> > > a. The Visually 
> Disabled candidate must be allowed the use of a Scribe who will read the 
> question papers and write/type the answers dictated by the Visually 
> disabled candidate. > > > > b. Since one of the important factors while 
> doing an examination is speed, adequate practice is necessary, Visually 
> Disabled persons should be allowed to use the services of a scribe of 
> his/her own choice. The Visually Disabled candidate may however request 
> the Examining authority to provide a Scribe.> > > > c. The discretion to 
> arrange for his/her own Scribe or to be provided by a Scribe by the 
> Examining Authority is with the candidate alone. > > > > d. No other 
> restriction other than those mentioned in Clauses 3 or 4 herein below 
> should be imposed on the selection of a scribe. > > > > e. It is desirable 
> that the candidate and the scribe are from the same stream.> > > 2. 
> Examination Form/Application > > > a. All Application Forms/Advertisements 
> for exams should mention that a Visually Disabled candidate will be 
> allowed the use of a Scribe and alternative formats will be provided. > > 
>  > > b. The examining authority should give a clear option in the 
> advertisement itself whether the examinee wishes the scribe to be provided 
> by the examination conducting body or he/she wishes to arrange the scribe 
>

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-29 Thread Dr. Rohit Trivedi
no such barrier should be there.
- Original Message - 
From: "sweety bhalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


> Moreover the scribe with 55 % marks for examinations, it is very difficult
> to get in this time.  It should be at least 60%marks.  Telling my own
> experience and facing problems in my dept examinations.
> Regards
> (Sweety Bhalla)
> - Original Message -
> From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> Sent: 29/11/2007 8:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>
>> Hello Kanchan,
>>
>> It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers everything.
> But
>> a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include sufficient
>> guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain delays
> as
>> the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the software.
>> Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged
> candidates
>> should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the
>> software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive of this
>> issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly
> appearing
>> on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical problems.
>> Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use calculator
>> and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also should be
>> allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.
>>
>> Vetri.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: pamnani
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:04 PM
>> Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Friends
>> Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in India
>> thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
>> Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped when
> the
>> Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later than
>> this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
>> thanks Kanchan
>>
>>
>> Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
>>
>>
>> The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for the
>> examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:
>>
>>
>>
>>   a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are appearing
>> for various examinations.
>>   b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
>>
>>
>>   a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various
>> Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.
>>
>>
>>   a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules
> and/or
>> implement the rules in different ways.
>>
>>
>>   a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account
>>
>>
>>   a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the
>> examination has to be removed
>>
>>
>>   a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations
>> themselves are varied and need to be answered in various ways.
>>
>>
>>   a.. Competition is increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be 
>> given
> a
>> level playing field
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This Policy will apply to all examinations being conducted in India
>> generally and specifically to examinations conducted by Educational
>> institutions- schools and  colleges (both internal and external), School
> and
>> College Boards, universities and deemed universities, autonomous bodies
>> conducting entrance or promotional examinations as well as all
>> recruiting/promoting  authorities and any other authorities or bodies
> under
>> which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes to appear for an examination 
>> for
>> any purpose whatsoever. The paramount purpose of the Policy is to
> alleviate
>> the hardship being caused to the Visually disabled candidate due to
>> uncertainty in policy and to mitigate the effects of a disability.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Scribe
>>
>>
>> a. The Visually Disabled candidate must be allowed the use of a Scribe 
>> who
>
>> will read the question papers and write/type the answers d

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-29 Thread Vetrivel Adhimoolam
I thing it's not too demanding and we have examples within India. JNU for 
example provides 1 and half hours extra time for us in three hours all India 
entrance examination.

- Original Message - 
From: Rajesh Asudani
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


points 30 minutes in pranav's mail are, in my opinion, too demanding and far 
fetched. We should not demand something apparently beyond reasonable.

Rajesh and7 regarding scribe not being junior and extra time of 3



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Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

Kanchan,

1. Why specify the software that is to be used? A person could be
comfortable in writing an exam even in an application like Open office.

2. Why copy and paste from Pagemaker? This could create a problem with
tables. Ideally, question papers should be Microsoft Office documents such
that the text is in word and data relating to accounts problems etc should
be in Excel. Assuming this is not possible then just ask for Word files
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Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-29 Thread Prof. S. R. Mittal
Dear friends.
Can anyone mail to me the draft policy of exams to my personal id 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
With regards Mittal.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ketan Kothari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


> Dear Kanchan,
>
> It is an excellent document except that there should be a provision
> for viva exam in certain cases where the use of graphs is immense and
> those of us who are totally blind by birth find it difficult to read
> them.
>
> Further, after this policy comes into effect the nonimplementing body
> such as the school/colleges/universities should invalidate the
> examination and they should reorganize the same as the disabled person
> looses the marks as it happened in my own case.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> On 11/29/07, pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Friends
>> Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in India
>> thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
>> Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped when 
>> the
>> Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later than
>> this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
>> thanks Kanchan
>>
>>
>> Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
>>
>>
>> The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for the
>> examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:
>>
>>
>>
>>   a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are appearing
>> for various examinations.
>>   b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
>>
>>
>>   a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various
>> Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.
>>
>>
>>   a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules 
>> and/or
>> implement the rules in different ways.
>>
>>
>>   a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account
>>
>>
>>   a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the
>> examination has to be removed
>>
>>
>>   a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations
>> themselves are varied and need to be answered in various ways.
>>
>>
>>   a.. Competition is increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be 
>> given a
>> level playing field
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This Policy will apply to all examinations being conducted in India
>> generally and specifically to examinations conducted by Educational
>> institutions- schools and  colleges (both internal and external), School 
>> and
>> College Boards, universities and deemed universities, autonomous bodies
>> conducting entrance or promotional examinations as well as all
>> recruiting/promoting  authorities and any other authorities or bodies 
>> under
>> which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes to appear for an examination 
>> for
>> any purpose whatsoever. The paramount purpose of the Policy is to 
>> alleviate
>> the hardship being caused to the Visually disabled candidate due to
>> uncertainty in policy and to mitigate the effects of a disability.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Scribe
>>
>>
>> a. The Visually Disabled candidate must be allowed the use of a Scribe 
>> who
>> will read the question papers and write/type the answers dictated by the
>> Visually disabled candidate.
>>
>>
>>
>> b. Since one of the important factors while doing an examination is 
>> speed,
>> adequate practice is necessary, Visually Disabled persons should be 
>> allowed
>> to use the services of a scribe of his/her own choice. The Visually 
>> Disabled
>> candidate may however request the Examining authority to provide a 
>> Scribe.
>>
>>
>>
>> c. The discretion to arrange for his/her own Scribe or to be provided by 
>> a
>> Scribe by the Examining Authority is with the candidate alone.
>>
>>
>>
>> d. No other restriction other than those mentioned in Clauses 3 or 4 
>> herein
>> below should be imposed on the selection of a scribe.
>>
>>
>>
>> e. It is desirable that the candidate and the scribe are from the same
>> stream.
>>
>>
>> 2. Examination Form/Applicatio

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-29 Thread Pranav Lal
Dinesh,

Would you have a reference number of that notification?

Pranav
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dinesh Kaushal
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:57 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

Hi Pranav,

You said 
8. In the Delhi University, before I could take an exam, I had to be tested
to ensure that I was still blind. My blindness is unchanging. Once tested,
the condition will not change. I was tested every year though. This is a
pain. The policy must stop this repeated testing.
 
Dinesh: I faced the same issue, but this was a mistake, there is a
notification which specifies that for permanent disability medical
certificate is enough, but I don't have the notification with me now.

Regards
Dinesh Kaushal

blog at 
dineshkaushal.blogspot.com

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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:45 PM
To: 'pamnani'; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

Kanchan,

1. Why specify the software that is to be used? A person could be
comfortable in writing an exam even in an application like Open office.

2. Why copy and paste from Pagemaker? This could create a problem with
tables. Ideally, question papers should be Microsoft Office documents such
that the text is in word and data relating to accounts problems etc should
be in Excel. Assuming this is not possible then just ask for Word files
without specifying the conversion.

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Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-29 Thread Anshul Kapoor
Dear Madam,
Where there is no problem of language of papers and where the candidate
is unable to furnish the names of multiple scribes, he may be allowed to
change a scribe in case of medical excegency and that should not be
opposed by the examining authorities. It is natural that a scribe may
fall ill during the long stretch of examinations. During my graduation
the same case was strongly opposed by the examining authorities.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sweety
bhalla
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:26 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

Kanchan!
If a person brings his/her own scribe, then there is no question of
percentage?  It means.  PL clarify.
Regards
- Original Message -
From: Pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: 29/11/2007 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


> Sweety my dear the 55% is not for your scribe but only for the scribe
> provided by the Authority. Your Scribe is covered in clause 3 and then
if
> you choose not to bring your own scribe then it is the authority who
will
> provide a scribe with some minimum qualifications.
> Kanchan Pamnani
> Advocate & Solicitor
> 9, Suleman Chambers,
> Battery Street, Colaba,
> Mumbai - 400 039.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "sweety bhalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>
>
> > Moreover the scribe with 55 % marks for examinations, it is very
difficult
> > to get in this time.  It should be at least 60%marks.  Telling my
own
> > experience and facing problems in my dept examinations.
> > Regards
> > (Sweety Bhalla)
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> > Sent: 29/11/2007 8:56 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
> >
> >> Hello Kanchan,
> >>
> >> It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers
everything.
> > But
> >> a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include
sufficient
> >> guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain
delays
> > as
> >> the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the
software.
> >> Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged
> > candidates
> >> should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the
> >> software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive of
this
> >> issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly
> > appearing
> >> on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical
problems.
> >> Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use
calculator
> >> and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also
should
be
> >> allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.
> >>
> >> Vetri.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: pamnani
> >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:04 PM
> >> Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Friends
> >> Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in
India
> >> thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,
Neha,
> >> Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped
when
> > the
> >> Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no
later
than
> >> this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
> >> thanks Kanchan
> >>
> >>
> >> Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
> >>
> >>
> >> The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India
for
the
> >> examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are
appearing
> >> for various examinations.
> >>   b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
> >>
> >>
> >>   a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by
various
> >> Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in
piecemeal.
> >>
> >>
> >>   a.. Various examination conducting 

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-29 Thread Dinesh Kaushal
Hi Kanchan,

For most of the points, my view is same as others, that specifics of
software may be avoided, but I can imagine a senario where a particular
software is used and is not screen reader friendly, so may be these policies
may include list of software with a condition that only accessible software
be used

Same is true for Aids and appliances, listing limited number of them may
creat problem for those who want to use different once.

I can already add couple of them, 

A. welcrove board for drawing diagrams (I used it in my graduation exams) 

B. drawing wheel, it is available as part of geometry kit (I guess it should
be available from NIVH Dehradun)

These policies may be revised from time to time, and list of software along
with Aids and appliances may be included in appendix

For the following point # 10.C, I feel that there can be confusion regarding
who decides if laboratory  assistant is used or alternative question is
provided. May be the candidate is interested in conducting the experiments,
but institution is not willing to provide assistant. So it should be
candidates power to decide, and the same conditions as in scribe should be
applied with regard to making arrangement  of assistant i.e. candidate
should be given first opportunity to arrange for the assistant.

c. For practical exams the Visually Disabled candidate must be allowed the
help of a laboratory  assistant to conduct the experiment and or be provided
alternative oral questions in place of the experiment to be conducted.  
 
So the point 1.C may be modified as under

1.c. The discretion to arrange for his/her own Scribe / assistant or to be
provided by a Scribe / assistant by the Examining Authority is with the
candidate alone. 

Regards
Dinesh Kaushal

blog at 
dineshkaushal.blogspot.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pamnani
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:34 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

 
Hi Friends
Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in India
thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped when the
Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.  
 
 

Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later than
this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission. 
thanks Kanchan 
 

Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
 

The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for the
examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since: 

 

  a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are appearing
for various examinations.  
  b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
 

  a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various
Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.   
 

  a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules and/or
implement the rules in different ways.   
 

  a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account
 

  a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the
examination has to be removed
 

  a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations
themselves are varied and need to be answered in various ways. 
 

  a.. Competition is increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be given a
level playing field  
 

 

This Policy will apply to all examinations being conducted in India
generally and specifically to examinations conducted by Educational
institutions- schools and  colleges (both internal and external), School and
College Boards, universities and deemed universities, autonomous bodies
conducting entrance or promotional examinations as well as all
recruiting/promoting  authorities and any other authorities or bodies under
which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes to appear for an examination for
any purpose whatsoever. The paramount purpose of the Policy is to alleviate
the hardship being caused to the Visually disabled candidate due to
uncertainty in policy and to mitigate the effects of a disability.  

 

 

1. Scribe
 

a. The Visually Disabled candidate must be allowed the use of a Scribe who
will read the question papers and write/type the answers dictated by the
Visually disabled candidate.

 

b. Since one of the important factors while doing an examination is speed,
adequate practice is necessary, Visually Disabled persons should be allowed
to use the services of a scribe of his/her own choice. The Visually Disabled
candidate may however request the Examining authority to provide a Scribe.



c. The discretion to arrange for his/her own Scribe or to be provided by a
Scribe by the Examining Authority is with the candidate alone. 

 

d. No other restriction other than those mentioned in Clauses 3 or 4 herein
below should be imposed on the selection of a

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-29 Thread sweety bhalla
Kanchan!
If a person brings his/her own scribe, then there is no question of
percentage?  It means.  PL clarify.
Regards
- Original Message -
From: Pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: 29/11/2007 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


> Sweety my dear the 55% is not for your scribe but only for the scribe
> provided by the Authority. Your Scribe is covered in clause 3 and then if
> you choose not to bring your own scribe then it is the authority who will
> provide a scribe with some minimum qualifications.
> Kanchan Pamnani
> Advocate & Solicitor
> 9, Suleman Chambers,
> Battery Street, Colaba,
> Mumbai - 400 039.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "sweety bhalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>
>
> > Moreover the scribe with 55 % marks for examinations, it is very
difficult
> > to get in this time.  It should be at least 60%marks.  Telling my own
> > experience and facing problems in my dept examinations.
> > Regards
> > (Sweety Bhalla)
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> > Sent: 29/11/2007 8:56 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
> >
> >> Hello Kanchan,
> >>
> >> It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers
everything.
> > But
> >> a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include
sufficient
> >> guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain
delays
> > as
> >> the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the software.
> >> Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged
> > candidates
> >> should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the
> >> software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive of
this
> >> issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly
> > appearing
> >> on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical
problems.
> >> Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use
calculator
> >> and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also should
be
> >> allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.
> >>
> >> Vetri.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: pamnani
> >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:04 PM
> >> Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Friends
> >> Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in
India
> >> thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
> >> Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped
when
> > the
> >> Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later
than
> >> this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
> >> thanks Kanchan
> >>
> >>
> >> Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
> >>
> >>
> >> The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for
the
> >> examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are
appearing
> >> for various examinations.
> >>   b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
> >>
> >>
> >>   a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various
> >> Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.
> >>
> >>
> >>   a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules
> > and/or
> >> implement the rules in different ways.
> >>
> >>
> >>   a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account
> >>
> >>
> >>   a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the
> >> examination has to be removed
> >>
> >>
> >>   a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations
> >> themselves are varied and need to be answered in various ways.
> >>
> >>
> >>   a.. Competition is increasing and the Visually Dis

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-29 Thread Abdul Razique Khan
Hello kanchan mam,
you are doing a really commendable job. It is a well drafted policy barring 
few of the points which are debatable.
1. I stand by Pranav sir's point, of allowing extra 30 minutes per hour 
instead of 20 minutes.
2. As far as the softwares are concerned, in my opinion no softwares must be 
specified as said by Puneet sir. The college/ university should provide the 
softwares which the candidate demands for. this is because all candidates 
may not be comfortable with the specified softwares.

Carry on this good work,
Abdul
-- Original Message - 
From: "AMIT BHATT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


> In my opinion, when scribe is one level junior than the applicant, 
> deciding
> the marks in percentage for writer seems illogical to me.
> Specially, when the scribe is taken from the different stream. Therefore,
> the candidate should be allowed to use subscribe with whatever maximum
> percentage of marks.
> In addition, I would support Pranav's point that extra 30 minutes per hour
> should be given instead of 20 minutes to the applicant.
> Thanks,
>
> Amit Bhatt
> - Original Message - 
> From: "sweety bhalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>
>
>> Moreover the scribe with 55 % marks for examinations, it is very 
>> difficult
>> to get in this time.  It should be at least 60%marks.  Telling my own
>> experience and facing problems in my dept examinations.
>> Regards
>> (Sweety Bhalla)
>> - Original Message -----
>> From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
>> Sent: 29/11/2007 8:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>>
>> > Hello Kanchan,
>> >
>> > It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers 
>> > everything.
>> But
>> > a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include
> sufficient
>> > guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain 
>> > delays
>> as
>> > the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the software.
>> > Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged
>> candidates
>> > should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the
>> > software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive of 
>> > this
>> > issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly
>> appearing
>> > on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical
> problems.
>> > Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use
> calculator
>> > and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also should 
>> > be
>> > allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.
>> >
>> > Vetri.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: pamnani
>> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:04 PM
>> > Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Friends
>> > Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in 
>> > India
>> > thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
>> > Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped 
>> > when
>> the
>> > Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later
> than
>> > this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
>> > thanks Kanchan
>> >
>> >
>> > Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
>> >
>> >
>> > The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for
> the
>> > examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >   a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are
> appearing
>> > for various examinations.
>> >   b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
>> >
>> >
>> >   a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various
>> > Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.
>> >
>> >
>> >   a.. Various examination conducting authori

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread Rajesh Asudani
points 30 minutes in pranav's mail are, in my opinion, too demanding and far 
fetched. We should not demand something apparently beyond reasonable.

Rajesh and7 regarding scribe not being junior and extra time of 3



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Pranav Lal
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Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

Kanchan,

1. Why specify the software that is to be used? A person could be
comfortable in writing an exam even in an application like Open office.

2. Why copy and paste from Pagemaker? This could create a problem with
tables. Ideally, question papers should be Microsoft Office documents such
that the text is in word and data relating to accounts problems etc should
be in Excel. Assuming this is not possible then just ask for Word files
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Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread Amiyo Biswas
I am afraid, a scribe with 55% marks may not be found in all subjects,
particularly in an area like Kolkata where low scoring was the general trend
even a few years back.

Moreover, emphasis should be laid on competitive examinations for
recruitments so that these guidelines are followed in those exams.


- Original Message -
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:13 PM
Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


> Kanchan ji,
> No doubt, this draft of policy is commendable piece of work from your
> side. I would like to say as far as softwares are concerned, we should not
> be strict on the JAWS and MS Word.  Because, practically speaking, most of
> the universities and colleges in India do not still have a authorized copy
> of JAWS for Windows. and alternative methods for JAWS will not be
accepted.
> So, I would like to say why don't we mention a Screen Reader and a
> office
> application as a software requirements in policy.  I think this will
> minimised any further disputes.
> Regards
> Punit Diwan
>
>
> - Original Message -
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> To: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
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[AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread Punit Diwan
Kanchan ji,
No doubt, this draft of policy is commendable piece of work from your
side. I would like to say as far as softwares are concerned, we should not
be strict on the JAWS and MS Word.  Because, practically speaking, most of 
the universities and colleges in India do not still have a authorized copy
of JAWS for Windows. and alternative methods for JAWS will not be accepted.
So, I would like to say why don't we mention a Screen Reader and a 
office
application as a software requirements in policy.  I think this will 
minimised any further disputes.
Regards
Punit Diwan


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Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread AMIT BHATT
In my opinion, when scribe is one level junior than the applicant, deciding
the marks in percentage for writer seems illogical to me.
Specially, when the scribe is taken from the different stream. Therefore,
the candidate should be allowed to use subscribe with whatever maximum
percentage of marks.
In addition, I would support Pranav's point that extra 30 minutes per hour
should be given instead of 20 minutes to the applicant.
Thanks,

Amit Bhatt
- Original Message - 
From: "sweety bhalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


> Moreover the scribe with 55 % marks for examinations, it is very difficult
> to get in this time.  It should be at least 60%marks.  Telling my own
> experience and facing problems in my dept examinations.
> Regards
> (Sweety Bhalla)
> - Original Message -
> From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> Sent: 29/11/2007 8:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>
> > Hello Kanchan,
> >
> > It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers everything.
> But
> > a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include
sufficient
> > guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain delays
> as
> > the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the software.
> > Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged
> candidates
> > should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the
> > software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive of this
> > issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly
> appearing
> > on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical
problems.
> > Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use
calculator
> > and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also should be
> > allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.
> >
> > Vetri.
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: pamnani
> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:04 PM
> > Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Friends
> > Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in India
> > thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
> > Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped when
> the
> > Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later
than
> > this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
> > thanks Kanchan
> >
> >
> > Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
> >
> >
> > The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for
the
> > examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:
> >
> >
> >
> >   a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are
appearing
> > for various examinations.
> >   b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
> >
> >
> >   a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various
> > Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.
> >
> >
> >   a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules
> and/or
> > implement the rules in different ways.
> >
> >
> >   a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account
> >
> >
> >   a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the
> > examination has to be removed
> >
> >
> >   a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations
> > themselves are varied and need to be answered in various ways.
> >
> >
> >   a.. Competition is increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be
given
> a
> > level playing field
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This Policy will apply to all examinations being conducted in India
> > generally and specifically to examinations conducted by Educational
> > institutions- schools and  colleges (both internal and external), School
> and
> > College Boards, universities and deemed universities, autonomous bodies
> > conducting entrance or promotional examinations as well as all
> > recruiting/promoting  authorities and any other authorities or bodies
> under
> > which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes to appear for an examination
for

[AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread Punit Diwan
Kanchan ji,
No doubt, this draft of policy is commendable piece of work from your
side. I would like to say as far as softwares are concerned, we should not
be strict on the JAWS and MS Word.  Because, practically speaking, most of 
the universities and colleges in India do not still have a authorized copy
of JAWS for Windows. and alternative methods for JAWS will not be accepted.
So, I would like to say why don't we mention a Screen Reader and a 
office
application as a software requirements in policy.  I think this will 
minimised any further disputes.
Regards
Punit Diwan


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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:22 AM
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[AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread Punit Diwan
Kanchan ji,
No doubt, this draft of policy is commendable piece of work from your 
side. I would like to say as far as softwares are concerned, we should not 
be strict on the JAWS and MS Word.  Because, practically speaking, most of 
the universities and colleges in India do not still have a authorized copy 
of JAWS for Windows. and alternative methods for JAWS will not be accepted.
So, I would like to say why don't we write a Screen Reader and a office 
application as a software requirement.  I think this will minimised any 
further disputtes.
Regards
Punit Diwan


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Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread Pamnani
Sweety my dear the 55% is not for your scribe but only for the scribe 
provided by the Authority. Your Scribe is covered in clause 3 and then if 
you choose not to bring your own scribe then it is the authority who will 
provide a scribe with some minimum qualifications.
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
From: "sweety bhalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


> Moreover the scribe with 55 % marks for examinations, it is very difficult
> to get in this time.  It should be at least 60%marks.  Telling my own
> experience and facing problems in my dept examinations.
> Regards
> (Sweety Bhalla)
> - Original Message -
> From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> Sent: 29/11/2007 8:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>
>> Hello Kanchan,
>>
>> It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers everything.
> But
>> a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include sufficient
>> guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain delays
> as
>> the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the software.
>> Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged
> candidates
>> should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the
>> software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive of this
>> issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly
> appearing
>> on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical problems.
>> Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use calculator
>> and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also should be
>> allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.
>>
>> Vetri.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: pamnani
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:04 PM
>> Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Friends
>> Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in India
>> thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
>> Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped when
> the
>> Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later than
>> this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
>> thanks Kanchan
>>
>>
>> Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
>>
>>
>> The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for the
>> examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:
>>
>>
>>
>>   a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are appearing
>> for various examinations.
>>   b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
>>
>>
>>   a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various
>> Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.
>>
>>
>>   a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules
> and/or
>> implement the rules in different ways.
>>
>>
>>   a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account
>>
>>
>>   a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the
>> examination has to be removed
>>
>>
>>   a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations
>> themselves are varied and need to be answered in various ways.
>>
>>
>>   a.. Competition is increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be 
>> given
> a
>> level playing field
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This Policy will apply to all examinations being conducted in India
>> generally and specifically to examinations conducted by Educational
>> institutions- schools and  colleges (both internal and external), School
> and
>> College Boards, universities and deemed universities, autonomous bodies
>> conducting entrance or promotional examinations as well as all
>> recruiting/promoting  authorities and any other authorities or bodies
> under
>> which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes to appear for an examination 
>> for
>> any purpose whatsoever. The paramount purpose of the Policy is to
> alleviate
>> the hardship being caused to the Visually dis

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread Dinesh Kaushal
Hi Pranav,

You said 
8. In the Delhi University, before I could take an exam, I had to be tested
to ensure that I was still blind. My blindness is unchanging. Once tested,
the condition will not change. I was tested every year though. This is a
pain. The policy must stop this repeated testing.
 
Dinesh: I faced the same issue, but this was a mistake, there is a
notification which specifies that for permanent disability medical
certificate is enough, but I don't have the notification with me now.

Regards
Dinesh Kaushal

blog at 
dineshkaushal.blogspot.com

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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:45 PM
To: 'pamnani'; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

Kanchan,

1. Why specify the software that is to be used? A person could be
comfortable in writing an exam even in an application like Open office.

2. Why copy and paste from Pagemaker? This could create a problem with
tables. Ideally, question papers should be Microsoft Office documents such
that the text is in word and data relating to accounts problems etc should
be in Excel. Assuming this is not possible then just ask for Word files
without specifying the conversion.

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Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread Pamnani
Ketan
Non implementation is your headache and that of the NGO and then the court 
is always open. Cant put it in the Policy.  .
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
From: "Ketan Kothari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


> Dear Kanchan,
>
> It is an excellent document except that there should be a provision
> for viva exam in certain cases where the use of graphs is immense and
> those of us who are totally blind by birth find it difficult to read
> them.
>
> Further, after this policy comes into effect the nonimplementing body
> such as the school/colleges/universities should invalidate the
> examination and they should reorganize the same as the disabled person
> looses the marks as it happened in my own case.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> On 11/29/07, pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Friends
>> Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in India
>> thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
>> Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped when 
>> the
>> Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later than
>> this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
>> thanks Kanchan
>>
>>
>> Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
>>
>>
>> The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for the
>> examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:
>>
>>
>>
>>   a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are appearing
>> for various examinations.
>>   b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
>>
>>
>>   a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various
>> Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.
>>
>>
>>   a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules 
>> and/or
>> implement the rules in different ways.
>>
>>
>>   a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account
>>
>>
>>   a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the
>> examination has to be removed
>>
>>
>>   a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations
>> themselves are varied and need to be answered in various ways.
>>
>>
>>   a.. Competition is increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be 
>> given a
>> level playing field
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This Policy will apply to all examinations being conducted in India
>> generally and specifically to examinations conducted by Educational
>> institutions- schools and  colleges (both internal and external), School 
>> and
>> College Boards, universities and deemed universities, autonomous bodies
>> conducting entrance or promotional examinations as well as all
>> recruiting/promoting  authorities and any other authorities or bodies 
>> under
>> which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes to appear for an examination 
>> for
>> any purpose whatsoever. The paramount purpose of the Policy is to 
>> alleviate
>> the hardship being caused to the Visually disabled candidate due to
>> uncertainty in policy and to mitigate the effects of a disability.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Scribe
>>
>>
>> a. The Visually Disabled candidate must be allowed the use of a Scribe 
>> who
>> will read the question papers and write/type the answers dictated by the
>> Visually disabled candidate.
>>
>>
>>
>> b. Since one of the important factors while doing an examination is 
>> speed,
>> adequate practice is necessary, Visually Disabled persons should be 
>> allowed
>> to use the services of a scribe of his/her own choice. The Visually 
>> Disabled
>> candidate may however request the Examining authority to provide a 
>> Scribe.
>>
>>
>>
>> c. The discretion to arrange for his/her own Scribe or to be provided by 
>> a
>> Scribe by the Examining Authority is with the candidate alone.
>>
>>
>>
>> d. No other restriction other than those mentioned in Clauses 3 or 4 
>> herein
>> below should be imposed on the selection of a scribe.
>>
>>
>>
>> e. It is desirable that the ca

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread Pamnani
Vetry I have taken the suggestion of the talking calculator as point d. in 
clause 8
the first point of computer malfunction I dont know what to do about it.
I have mentioned the UPS and the Scribe and 2 printers and 2 computers. and 
the extra time
Any other suggestio is welcome in case the above mentioned is not enough.
n
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
From: "Vetrivel Adhimoolam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


> Hello Kanchan,
>
> It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers everything. 
> But
> a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include sufficient
> guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain delays 
> as
> the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the software.
> Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged 
> candidates
> should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the
> software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive of this
> issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly 
> appearing
> on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical problems.
> Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use calculator
> and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also should be
> allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.
>
> Vetri.
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: pamnani
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:04 PM
> Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>
>
>
> Hi Friends
> Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in India
> thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
> Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped when 
> the
> Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
>
>
>
> Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later than
> this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
> thanks Kanchan
>
>
> Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
>
>
> The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for the
> examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:
>
>
>
>  a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are appearing
> for various examinations.
>  b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
>
>
>  a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various
> Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.
>
>
>  a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules 
> and/or
> implement the rules in different ways.
>
>
>  a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account
>
>
>  a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the
> examination has to be removed
>
>
>  a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations
> themselves are varied and need to be answered in various ways.
>
>
>  a.. Competition is increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be given 
> a
> level playing field
>
>
>
>
> This Policy will apply to all examinations being conducted in India
> generally and specifically to examinations conducted by Educational
> institutions- schools and  colleges (both internal and external), School 
> and
> College Boards, universities and deemed universities, autonomous bodies
> conducting entrance or promotional examinations as well as all
> recruiting/promoting  authorities and any other authorities or bodies 
> under
> which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes to appear for an examination for
> any purpose whatsoever. The paramount purpose of the Policy is to 
> alleviate
> the hardship being caused to the Visually disabled candidate due to
> uncertainty in policy and to mitigate the effects of a disability.
>
>
>
>
>
> 1. Scribe
>
>
> a. The Visually Disabled candidate must be allowed the use of a Scribe who
> will read the question papers and write/type the answers dictated by the
> Visually disabled candidate.
>
>
>
> b. Since one of the important factors while doing an examination is speed,
> adequate practice is necessary, Visually Disabled persons should be 
> allowed
> to use the services of a scribe of his/her own choice. The Visually 
> Disabled
> candidate may however request the Examining authority to provide a Scribe.
>
>
>
> c. The discretion to

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread Pranav Lal
Kanchan,

1. Why specify the software that is to be used? A person could be
comfortable in writing an exam even in an application like Open office.

2. Why copy and paste from Pagemaker? This could create a problem with
tables. Ideally, question papers should be Microsoft Office documents such
that the text is in word and data relating to accounts problems etc should
be in Excel. Assuming this is not possible then just ask for Word files
without specifying the conversion.

3. http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread sweety bhalla
Moreover the scribe with 55 % marks for examinations, it is very difficult
to get in this time.  It should be at least 60%marks.  Telling my own
experience and facing problems in my dept examinations.
Regards
(Sweety Bhalla)
- Original Message -
From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: 29/11/2007 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

> Hello Kanchan,
>
> It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers everything.
But
> a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include sufficient
> guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain delays
as
> the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the software.
> Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged
candidates
> should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the
> software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive of this
> issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly
appearing
> on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical problems.
> Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use calculator
> and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also should be
> allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.
>
> Vetri.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: pamnani
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:04 PM
> Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>
>
>
> Hi Friends
> Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in India
> thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
> Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped when
the
> Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
>
>
>
> Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later than
> this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
> thanks Kanchan
>
>
> Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
>
>
> The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for the
> examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:
>
>
>
>   a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are appearing
> for various examinations.
>   b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
>
>
>   a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various
> Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.
>
>
>   a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules
and/or
> implement the rules in different ways.
>
>
>   a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account
>
>
>   a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the
> examination has to be removed
>
>
>   a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations
> themselves are varied and need to be answered in various ways.
>
>
>   a.. Competition is increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be given
a
> level playing field
>
>
>
>
> This Policy will apply to all examinations being conducted in India
> generally and specifically to examinations conducted by Educational
> institutions- schools and  colleges (both internal and external), School
and
> College Boards, universities and deemed universities, autonomous bodies
> conducting entrance or promotional examinations as well as all
> recruiting/promoting  authorities and any other authorities or bodies
under
> which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes to appear for an examination for
> any purpose whatsoever. The paramount purpose of the Policy is to
alleviate
> the hardship being caused to the Visually disabled candidate due to
> uncertainty in policy and to mitigate the effects of a disability.
>
>
>
>
>
> 1. Scribe
>
>
> a. The Visually Disabled candidate must be allowed the use of a Scribe who

> will read the question papers and write/type the answers dictated by the
> Visually disabled candidate.
>
>
>
> b. Since one of the important factors while doing an examination is speed,
> adequate practice is necessary, Visually Disabled persons should be
allowed
> to use the services of a scribe of his/her own choice. The Visually
Disabled
> candidate may however request the Examining authority to provide a Scribe.
>
>
>
> c. The discretion to arrange for his/her own Scribe or to be provided by a
> Scribe by the Examining Authority is with the candidate alone.
>
>
>
> d. No other restriction other than those mentioned in Clauses 3 or 4
herein
> below should be imposed on the selection of a scribe.
>
>
>
> e. It is desirabl

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread Pamnani
Hi this is being drafted for India and not for a particular State. You need 
to spread the word if we succeed.
Kanchan
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent


> Hai Kanchan:
>
> Your work is certainly commendable. In fact, I was also thinking on the
> same lines as Vetri as I was going through the draft and perhaps, if
> there is a possibility, organisations can conduct trial tests much
> before the original tests and make candidates acclimatize with the
> system. I found talking calculators to be a good suggestion as well, in
> the event of students attending complex calculation-based tests.
>
> By the way, I also feel organisations in Karnataka and other states must
> take this up as a precedence and ask for a similar policy for visually
> challenged candidates. Hope someone takes the cue.
>
> Warm rgds,
>
> Subramani
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vetrivel
> Adhimoolam
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:56 AM
> To: pamnani; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>
> Hello Kanchan,
>
> It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers everything.
> But
> a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include
> sufficient
> guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain delays
> as
> the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the software.
> Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged
> candidates
> should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the
> software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive of this
>
> issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly
> appearing
> on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical
> problems.
> Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use
> calculator
> and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also should be
>
> allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.
>
> Vetri.
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: pamnani
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:04 PM
> Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent
>
>
>
> Hi Friends
> Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in India
>
> thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
> Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped when
> the
> Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
>
>
>
> Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later
> than
> this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
> thanks Kanchan
>
>
> Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
>
>
> The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for
> the
> examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:
>
>
>
>  a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are
> appearing
> for various examinations.
>  b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
>
>
>  a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various
> Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.
>
>
>  a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules
> and/or
> implement the rules in different ways.
>
>
>  a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account
>
>
>  a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the
> examination has to be removed
>
>
>  a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations
> themselves are varied and need to be answered in various ways.
>
>
>  a.. Competition is increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be
> given a
> level playing field
>
>
>
>
> This Policy will apply to all examinations being conducted in India
> generally and specifically to examinations conducted by Educational
> institutions- schools and  colleges (both internal and external), School
> and
> College Boards, universities and deemed universities, autonomous bodies
> conducting entrance or promotional examinations as well as all
> recruiting/promoting  authorities and any other authorities or bodies
> under
> which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes to appear for an examination
> for
> any purpose whatsoever. The paramount purpose of the Policy is to

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread nafisa buhariwala

Well drafted Kanchan. Seems to cover all points.Only a small modification as 
regards Screen Readers. Mention JAWS or any other screen reading software the 
candidate is comfortable with. If they get stuck to the word JAWS and not allow 
Window Eyes someone like me will be miserable.
Nafisa> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:34:02 +0530> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent> > 
> Hi Friends > Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled 
in India thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan, Neha, 
Pranav, Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped when the 
Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed. > > > > Please let me have your 
comments on this draft urgently and no later than this evening. I need to send 
it to the Disability commission. > thanks Kanchan > > > Policy for Examination 
of the Visually Disabled> > > The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy 
throughout India for the examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing 
since: > > > > a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are 
appearing for various examinations. > b.. Number of examining bodies has been 
increasing over the years> > > a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have 
been passed by various Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem 
in piecemeal. > > > a.. Various examination conducting authorities have 
different rules and/or implement the rules in different ways. > > > a.. 
Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account> > > a.. The anxiety 
suffered by the examinees before and during the examination has to be removed> 
> > a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations themselves 
are varied and need to be answered in various ways. > > > a.. Competition is 
increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be given a level playing field > > 
> > > This Policy will apply to all examinations being conducted in India 
generally and specifically to examinations conducted by Educational 
institutions- schools and colleges (both internal and external), School and 
College Boards, universities and deemed universities, autonomous bodies 
conducting entrance or promotional examinations as well as all 
recruiting/promoting authorities and any other authorities or bodies under 
which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes to appear for an examination for any 
purpose whatsoever. The paramount purpose of the Policy is to alleviate the 
hardship being caused to the Visually disabled candidate due to uncertainty in 
policy and to mitigate the effects of a disability. > > > > > > 1. Scribe> > > 
a. The Visually Disabled candidate must be allowed the use of a Scribe who will 
read the question papers and write/type the answers dictated by the Visually 
disabled candidate. > > > > b. Since one of the important factors while doing 
an examination is speed, adequate practice is necessary, Visually Disabled 
persons should be allowed to use the services of a scribe of his/her own 
choice. The Visually Disabled candidate may however request the Examining 
authority to provide a Scribe.> > > > c. The discretion to arrange for his/her 
own Scribe or to be provided by a Scribe by the Examining Authority is with the 
candidate alone. > > > > d. No other restriction other than those mentioned in 
Clauses 3 or 4 herein below should be imposed on the selection of a scribe. > > 
> > e. It is desirable that the candidate and the scribe are from the same 
stream.> > > 2. Examination Form/Application > > > a. All Application 
Forms/Advertisements for exams should mention that a Visually Disabled 
candidate will be allowed the use of a Scribe and alternative formats will be 
provided. > > > > b. The examining authority should give a clear option in the 
advertisement itself whether the examinee wishes the scribe to be provided by 
the examination conducting body or he/she wishes to arrange the scribe on 
his/her own.> > > > c. The Examining authority at the time of 
advertisement/application should also print the criteria/qualification for 
scribe to be followed. > > > > d. The application form should have a provision 
asking low vision persons to indicate the requirement of question paper in 
large print. The advertisement for examination as well as the application form 
should also clearly mention that the low vision persons would be allowed the 
use of magnifying glass.> > > > > > 3. Scribes chosen by Candidate > > > > > > 
a. In case the candidate avails the services of his/her own scribe/writer, the 
scribe/writer should be one grade junior in academic qualification than th

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread Subramani L
Hai Kanchan:

Your work is certainly commendable. In fact, I was also thinking on the
same lines as Vetri as I was going through the draft and perhaps, if
there is a possibility, organisations can conduct trial tests much
before the original tests and make candidates acclimatize with the
system. I found talking calculators to be a good suggestion as well, in
the event of students attending complex calculation-based tests.

By the way, I also feel organisations in Karnataka and other states must
take this up as a precedence and ask for a similar policy for visually
challenged candidates. Hope someone takes the cue.

Warm rgds,

Subramani



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vetrivel
Adhimoolam
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:56 AM
To: pamnani; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

Hello Kanchan,

It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers everything.
But 
a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include
sufficient 
guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain delays
as 
the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the software. 
Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged
candidates 
should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the 
software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive of this

issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly
appearing 
on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical
problems. 
Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use
calculator 
and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also should be

allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.

Vetri.



- Original Message - 
From: pamnani
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:04 PM
Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent



Hi Friends
Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in India

thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha, 
Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped when
the 
Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.



Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later
than 
this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
thanks Kanchan


Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled


The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for
the 
examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:



  a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are
appearing 
for various examinations.
  b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years


  a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various 
Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.


  a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules
and/or 
implement the rules in different ways.


  a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account


  a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the 
examination has to be removed


  a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations 
themselves are varied and need to be answered in various ways.


  a.. Competition is increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be
given a 
level playing field




This Policy will apply to all examinations being conducted in India 
generally and specifically to examinations conducted by Educational 
institutions- schools and  colleges (both internal and external), School
and 
College Boards, universities and deemed universities, autonomous bodies 
conducting entrance or promotional examinations as well as all 
recruiting/promoting  authorities and any other authorities or bodies
under 
which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes to appear for an examination
for 
any purpose whatsoever. The paramount purpose of the Policy is to
alleviate 
the hardship being caused to the Visually disabled candidate due to 
uncertainty in policy and to mitigate the effects of a disability.





1. Scribe


a. The Visually Disabled candidate must be allowed the use of a Scribe
who 
will read the question papers and write/type the answers dictated by the

Visually disabled candidate.



b. Since one of the important factors while doing an examination is
speed, 
adequate practice is necessary, Visually Disabled persons should be
allowed 
to use the services of a scribe of his/her own choice. The Visually
Disabled 
candidate may however request the Examining authority to provide a
Scribe.



c. The discretion to arrange for his/her own Scribe or to be provided by
a 
Scribe by the Examining Authority is with the candidate alone.



d. No other restriction other than those mentioned in Clauses 3 or 4
herein 
below should be imposed on the selection of a scribe.



e. It is desirable that the candidate and the scribe are from

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread Ketan Kothari
Dear Kanchan,

It is an excellent document except that there should be a provision
for viva exam in certain cases where the use of graphs is immense and
those of us who are totally blind by birth find it difficult to read
them.

Further, after this policy comes into effect the nonimplementing body
such as the school/colleges/universities should invalidate the
examination and they should reorganize the same as the disabled person
looses the marks as it happened in my own case.

Thank you.


On 11/29/07, pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Friends
> Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in India
> thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha,
> Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped when the
> Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.
>
>
>
> Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later than
> this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
> thanks Kanchan
>
>
> Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
>
>
> The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for the
> examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:
>
>
>
>   a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are appearing
> for various examinations.
>   b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
>
>
>   a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various
> Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.
>
>
>   a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules and/or
> implement the rules in different ways.
>
>
>   a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account
>
>
>   a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the
> examination has to be removed
>
>
>   a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations
> themselves are varied and need to be answered in various ways.
>
>
>   a.. Competition is increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be given a
> level playing field
>
>
>
>
> This Policy will apply to all examinations being conducted in India
> generally and specifically to examinations conducted by Educational
> institutions- schools and  colleges (both internal and external), School and
> College Boards, universities and deemed universities, autonomous bodies
> conducting entrance or promotional examinations as well as all
> recruiting/promoting  authorities and any other authorities or bodies under
> which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes to appear for an examination for
> any purpose whatsoever. The paramount purpose of the Policy is to alleviate
> the hardship being caused to the Visually disabled candidate due to
> uncertainty in policy and to mitigate the effects of a disability.
>
>
>
>
>
> 1. Scribe
>
>
> a. The Visually Disabled candidate must be allowed the use of a Scribe who
> will read the question papers and write/type the answers dictated by the
> Visually disabled candidate.
>
>
>
> b. Since one of the important factors while doing an examination is speed,
> adequate practice is necessary, Visually Disabled persons should be allowed
> to use the services of a scribe of his/her own choice. The Visually Disabled
> candidate may however request the Examining authority to provide a Scribe.
>
>
>
> c. The discretion to arrange for his/her own Scribe or to be provided by a
> Scribe by the Examining Authority is with the candidate alone.
>
>
>
> d. No other restriction other than those mentioned in Clauses 3 or 4 herein
> below should be imposed on the selection of a scribe.
>
>
>
> e. It is desirable that the candidate and the scribe are from the same
> stream.
>
>
> 2. Examination Form/Application
>
>
> a. All Application Forms/Advertisements for exams should mention that a
> Visually Disabled candidate will be allowed the use of a Scribe and
> alternative formats will be provided.
>
>
>
> b. The examining authority should give a clear option in the advertisement
> itself whether the examinee wishes the scribe to be provided by the
> examination conducting body or he/she wishes to arrange the scribe on
> his/her own.
>
>
>
> c. The Examining authority at the time of advertisement/application should
> also print the criteria/qualification for scribe to be followed.
>
>
>
> d. The application form should have a provision asking low vision persons to
> indicate the requirement of question paper in large print.  The
> advertisement for examination as well as the application form should also
> clearly mention that the low vision persons would be allowed the use of
> magnifying glass.
>
>
>
>
>
> 3. Scribes chosen by Candidate
>
>
>
>
>
> a. In case the candidate avails the services of his/her own scribe/writer,
> the scribe/writer   should be one grade junior in academic qualification
> than the candidate if from the same stream.  However, this condition shall
> not apply if the scribe/writer is from a different stream.
>
>
>
> b. For com

Re: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread Vetrivel Adhimoolam
Hello Kanchan,

It is certainly a well drafted policy. It pretty much covers everything. But 
a couple of suggestions though: The policy also should include sufficient 
guidelines describing what should be done in the event of certain delays as 
the result of computer problems or the malfunctioning of the software. 
Because things can go wrong on that front and visually challenged candidates 
should not suffer as the result of such issues. So in my view, the 
software/hardware requirements should be amended to be inclusive of this 
issue. Second, visually impaired candidates are also increasingly appearing 
on various exams that require solving of extensive mathematical problems. 
Some of those exams may actually allow regular students to use calculator 
and in such circumstances, visually challenged candidates also should be 
allowed to bring talking calculator in to the examination hall.

Vetri.



- Original Message - 
From: pamnani
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:04 PM
Subject: [AI] Draft policy for exams urgent



Hi Friends
Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in India 
thanks to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha, 
Pranav,  Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped when the 
Maharashtra Guidelines were being framed.



Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later than 
this evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission.
thanks Kanchan


Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled


The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for the 
examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since:



  a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are appearing 
for various examinations.
  b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years


  a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various 
Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.


  a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules and/or 
implement the rules in different ways.


  a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account


  a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the 
examination has to be removed


  a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations 
themselves are varied and need to be answered in various ways.


  a.. Competition is increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be given a 
level playing field




This Policy will apply to all examinations being conducted in India 
generally and specifically to examinations conducted by Educational 
institutions- schools and  colleges (both internal and external), School and 
College Boards, universities and deemed universities, autonomous bodies 
conducting entrance or promotional examinations as well as all 
recruiting/promoting  authorities and any other authorities or bodies under 
which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes to appear for an examination for 
any purpose whatsoever. The paramount purpose of the Policy is to alleviate 
the hardship being caused to the Visually disabled candidate due to 
uncertainty in policy and to mitigate the effects of a disability.





1. Scribe


a. The Visually Disabled candidate must be allowed the use of a Scribe who 
will read the question papers and write/type the answers dictated by the 
Visually disabled candidate.



b. Since one of the important factors while doing an examination is speed, 
adequate practice is necessary, Visually Disabled persons should be allowed 
to use the services of a scribe of his/her own choice. The Visually Disabled 
candidate may however request the Examining authority to provide a Scribe.



c. The discretion to arrange for his/her own Scribe or to be provided by a 
Scribe by the Examining Authority is with the candidate alone.



d. No other restriction other than those mentioned in Clauses 3 or 4 herein 
below should be imposed on the selection of a scribe.



e. It is desirable that the candidate and the scribe are from the same 
stream.


2. Examination Form/Application


a. All Application Forms/Advertisements for exams should mention that a 
Visually Disabled candidate will be allowed the use of a Scribe and 
alternative formats will be provided.



b. The examining authority should give a clear option in the advertisement 
itself whether the examinee wishes the scribe to be provided by the 
examination conducting body or he/she wishes to arrange the scribe on 
his/her own.



c. The Examining authority at the time of advertisement/application should 
also print the criteria/qualification for scribe to be followed.



d. The application form should have a provision asking low vision persons to 
indicate the requirement of question paper in large print.  The 
advertisement for examination as well as the application form should also 
clearly mention that the low vision persons would be allowed

[AI] Draft policy for exams urgent

2007-11-28 Thread pamnani
 
Hi Friends  
Have drafted a Policy for Examinations of the Visually disabled in India thanks 
to the input from Anjali, Asif, Dipendra, Harish, Ketan,  Neha, Pranav,  
Rajesh, Sam and SGS Sisodia and numerous others who helped when the Maharashtra 
Guidelines were being framed.  
 
 

Please let me have your comments on this draft urgently and no later than this 
evening. I need to send it to the Disability commission. 
thanks Kanchan 
 

Policy for Examination of the Visually Disabled
 

The need for a standard and comprehensive Policy throughout India for the 
examination of the Visually Disabled has been growing since: 

 

  a.. Every year more and more Visually Disabled candidates are appearing for 
various examinations.  
  b.. Number of examining bodies has been increasing over the years
 

  a.. Various orders/judgments/directions have been passed by various 
Courts/Commissions/Authorities and deal with the problem in piecemeal.   
 

  a.. Various examination conducting authorities have different rules and/or 
implement the rules in different ways.   
 

  a.. Technology is improving and needs to be taken into account
 

  a.. The anxiety suffered by the examinees before and during the examination 
has to be removed
 

  a.. Questions asked at written examinations and the examinations themselves 
are varied and need to be answered in various ways. 
 

  a.. Competition is increasing and the Visually Disabled have to be given a 
level playing field  
 

 

This Policy will apply to all examinations being conducted in India generally 
and specifically to examinations conducted by Educational institutions- schools 
and  colleges (both internal and external), School and College Boards, 
universities and deemed universities, autonomous bodies conducting entrance or 
promotional examinations as well as all recruiting/promoting  authorities and 
any other authorities or bodies under which a Visually Disabled examinee wishes 
to appear for an examination for any purpose whatsoever. The paramount purpose 
of the Policy is to alleviate the hardship being caused to the Visually 
disabled candidate due to uncertainty in policy and to mitigate the effects of 
a disability.  

 

 

1. Scribe
 

a. The Visually Disabled candidate must be allowed the use of a Scribe who will 
read the question papers and write/type the answers dictated by the Visually 
disabled candidate.

 

b. Since one of the important factors while doing an examination is speed,  
adequate practice is necessary, Visually Disabled persons should be allowed to 
use the services of a scribe of his/her own choice. The Visually Disabled 
candidate may however request the Examining authority to provide a Scribe.



c. The discretion to arrange for his/her own Scribe or to be provided by a 
Scribe by the Examining Authority is with the candidate alone. 

 

d. No other restriction other than those mentioned in Clauses 3 or 4 herein 
below should be imposed on the selection of a scribe. 

 

e. It is desirable that the candidate and the scribe are from the same stream.

 
2. Examination Form/Application 
 

a. All Application Forms/Advertisements for exams should mention that a 
Visually Disabled candidate will be allowed the use of a Scribe and alternative 
formats will be provided. 

 

b. The examining authority should give a clear option in the advertisement 
itself whether the examinee wishes the scribe to be provided by the examination 
conducting body or he/she wishes to arrange the scribe on his/her own.

 

c. The Examining authority at the time of advertisement/application should also 
print the criteria/qualification for scribe to be followed. 

 

d. The application form should have a provision asking low vision persons to 
indicate the requirement of question paper in large print.  The advertisement 
for examination as well as the application form should also clearly mention 
that the low vision persons would be allowed the use of magnifying glass.

 

 

3. Scribes chosen by Candidate 



 

a. In case the candidate avails the services of his/her own scribe/writer, the 
scribe/writer   should be one grade junior in academic qualification than the 
candidate if from the same stream.  However, this condition shall not apply if 
the scribe/writer is from a different stream.

 

b. For competitive examinations the scribe needs to be one level below the 
eligibility criteria of the competitive exam in consideration.

 

c. For internal exams of schools and colleges the condition of the scribe being 
one grade junior in academic qualification than the candidate should not be 
enforced strictly as this would cause undue hardship to the candidate and give 
rise to unviable solutions.   

 

 

4. Scribes provided by Examining Authorities



a. Considering the practical problems, it is necessary that even if the scribe 
is provided by the examination conducting authorities, at the request of 
examinee, such authorities must en