Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
Hello friends. Turning the virtual curser off, the select all option does not work on that website. It is a password protected international law website. www. westlaw.com The moment I put it on again, the control all command works well...but then its the same old story once again. There is no end to my agonies it seems. Thanks a lot for the patient hearing. Moiz. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
Dear Moiz Do you have Westlaw's password? If yes, then I might have a solution to resolve your issue. Just let me know in either case. I think we will have to try downloading from a download manager. Just try to download a free download manager from this URL: http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/scripts/downl.php?file_id=1 (If there's any problem with the given link, just copy it to your Internet Explorer's address bar and hit enter) I'll tell you about it more when you reply to this next time. For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hello friends. Turning the virtual curser off, the select all option does not work on that website. It is a password protected international law website. www. westlaw.com The moment I put it on again, the control all command works well...but then its the same old story once again. There is no end to my agonies it seems. Thanks a lot for the patient hearing. Moiz. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
Hi, I have had positive experiences with freedom scientific tech support so, it is worth writing to them. Pranav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Syed Imran Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:50 AM To: Rohit Trivedi; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. But do they accept our suggestions and implement it? For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: Rohit Trivedi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Actually this problem needs to be reported to freedom Scientific. Turnining off virtual cursor is alright but say if you have to copy 2 or 3 paras then you have to delete the entire unwanted stuff. Rohit m - Original Message - From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hi Harish Thank you for telling me about INS+Z. I din't know that Jaws had this feature of actually turning the virtual PC cursor off. For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: Harish Kotian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hi Syed A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z. Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from the virtual buffer. Harish. - Original Message - From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hi Moiz Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running Windows XP? If not, no problem. Just try this and let us know 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit Jaws. 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter You should hear an old man speaking. This is called Narrator. It is a screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already have opened Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't work Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hello sir. Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. I'm clueless. Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any difference? Moiz. Message: 11 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hello Moiz and my dear list members, This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents accessible by using something called Virtual PC cursor. The virtual PC cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links, formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called Virtualising. Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an example. I have given a paragraph in 2
Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.
Hello Moiz and my dear list members, This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents accessible by using something called Virtual PC cursor. The virtual PC cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links, formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called Virtualising. Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an example. I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how exactly a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for us. I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet explorer I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not virtualised) -- The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying Link in the middle of the line. I think this is how a link element appears on the screen. But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line to present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about the same in the 2nd illustration: ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised) The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a Link dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. So this is how Jaws arranges the data in the web page after virtualising. However, when you copy this text to Microsoft Word, you will observe the text broken something like this: Some fruits and vegetables Instead of: Some fruits and vegetables We can surely remove the line breaks by pressing CTRL+downarrow and then back space followed by space bar as Vetry said, but it takes lot of time. Especially the lengthy documents. So when you want to copy anything from internet explorer, don't use selecting keys like Shift+downarrow, or ctrl+A to select the text. follow these simple steps exactly to copy the exact information without line or page breaks. 1. Open the web page from which you want to copy 2. Press Alt+E to pull down edit menu. 3. Choose Select all, by pressing A. We can't press CTRL+A directly instead of pulling down edit menu because Jaws will select from its virtual buffer. And I think Moiz, this could be the cause of your problem. 4. Again pull down the edit menu (Alt E) and choose copy by pressing C. Now what actually happens is that when you select all and copy from the edit menu, the data gets directly copied from Internet explorer and not from Jaws virtual buffer. 5. Open Microsoft word with a new document. 6. Paste whatever is copied from internet. This will paste the entire web page in your new documents including pictures, tables, links etc. 7. Keep whatever you want and delete unnecessary stuff. Some tips: 1. If you don't want pictures, tables and links, then paste it in notepad and then copy it to Microsoft word 2. However if you want tables, then paste it in wordpad and after selecting the pasted text, copy it to Microsoft word. 3. If you suspect that there are hyperlinks still in the edited document, press CTRL+A and press CTRL+SHIFT+F9 to clear the hyperlink attribute from the entire document. I am still searching for some easier way to copy from web pages and will be thankful if anyone could help in this regard. For your success Syed Imran To unsubscribe send
Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.
Excellent. I normally use the paste special option under edit menu in ms word. The default choice under this menu is as html. Using ctrl+v performs it. But it also gives option for pasting unformatted text etc. Using this feature pastes the text only retaining line breaks. Best regards, Amiyo. Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. Hello Moiz and my dear list members, This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents accessible by using something called Virtual PC cursor. The virtual PC cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links, formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called Virtualising. Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an example. I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how exactly a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for us. I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet explorer I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not virtualised) -- The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying Link in the middle of the line. I think this is how a link element appears on the screen. But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line to present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about the same in the 2nd illustration: ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised) The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a Link dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. So this is how Jaws arranges the data in the web page after virtualising. However, when you copy this text to Microsoft Word, you will observe the text broken something like this: Some fruits and vegetables Instead of: Some fruits and vegetables We can surely remove the line breaks by pressing CTRL+downarrow and then back space followed by space bar as Vetry said, but it takes lot of time. Especially the lengthy documents. So when you want to copy anything from internet explorer, don't use selecting keys like Shift+downarrow, or ctrl+A to select the text. follow these simple steps exactly to copy the exact information without line or page breaks. 1. Open the web page from which you want to copy 2. Press Alt+E to pull down edit menu. 3. Choose Select all, by pressing A. We can't press CTRL+A directly instead of pulling down edit menu because Jaws will select from its virtual buffer. And I think Moiz, this could be the cause of your problem. 4. Again pull down the edit menu (Alt E) and choose copy by pressing C. Now what actually happens is that when you select all and copy from the edit menu, the data gets directly copied from Internet explorer and not from Jaws virtual buffer. 5. Open Microsoft word with a new document. 6. Paste whatever is copied from internet. This will paste the entire web page in your new documents including pictures, tables, links etc. 7. Keep whatever you want and delete unnecessary stuff. Some tips: 1
[AI] page breaks with jaws.
Hi, I also see no reason as to why 'edit menu option' should not work. However, with whatever my little experience, it doesn't when you are using a password protected site. In such cases, only control A, Cont. C Cont. V will work. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
Hello sir. Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. I'm clueless. Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any difference? Moiz. Message: 11 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hello Moiz and my dear list members, This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents accessible by using something called Virtual PC cursor. The virtual PC cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links, formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called Virtualising. Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an example. I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how exactly a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for us. I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet explorer I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not virtualised) -- The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying Link in the middle of the line. I think this is how a link element appears on the screen. But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line to present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about the same in the 2nd illustration: ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised) The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a Link dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. So this is how Jaws arranges the data in the web page after virtualising. However, when you copy this text to Microsoft Word, you will observe the text broken something like this: Some fruits and vegetables Instead of: Some fruits and vegetables We can surely remove the line breaks by pressing CTRL+downarrow and then back space followed by space bar as Vetry said, but it takes lot of time. Especially the lengthy documents. So when you want to copy anything from internet explorer, don't use selecting keys like Shift+downarrow, or ctrl+A to select the text. follow these simple steps exactly to copy the exact information without line or page breaks. 1. Open the web page from which you want to copy 2. Press Alt+E to pull down edit menu. 3. Choose Select all, by pressing A. We can't press CTRL+A directly instead of pulling down edit menu because Jaws will select from its virtual buffer. And I think Moiz, this could be the cause of your problem. 4. Again pull down the edit menu (Alt E) and choose copy by pressing C. Now what actually happens is that when you select all and copy from the edit menu, the data gets directly copied from
Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
Hello. There's the answer. Yes the site is password protected. Is there no other way out? I'm being greatly inconvenienced by the unnecessary line breaks. Moiz. Message: 5 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:31:44 +0530 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AI] page breaks with jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi, I also see no reason as to why 'edit menu option' should not work. However, with whatever my little experience, it doesn't when you are using a password protected site. In such cases, only control A, Cont. C Cont. V will work. -- To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Moiz What is it's URL (universal resource locator)? For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hello. There's the answer. Yes the site is password protected. Is there no other way out? I'm being greatly inconvenienced by the unnecessary line breaks. Moiz. Message: 5 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:31:44 +0530 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AI] page breaks with jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi, I also see no reason as to why 'edit menu option' should not work. However, with whatever my little experience, it doesn't when you are using a password protected site. In such cases, only control A, Cont. C Cont. V will work. -- To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws.
Hi Moiz Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running Windows XP? If not, no problem. Just try this and let us know 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit Jaws. 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter You should hear an old man speaking. This is called Narrator. It is a screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already have opened Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't work Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hello sir. Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. I'm clueless. Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any difference? Moiz. Message: 11 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hello Moiz and my dear list members, This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents accessible by using something called Virtual PC cursor. The virtual PC cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links, formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called Virtualising. Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an example. I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how exactly a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for us. I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet explorer I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not virtualised) -- The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying Link in the middle of the line. I think this is how a link element appears on the screen. But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line to present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about the same in the 2nd illustration: ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised) The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a Link dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet
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Instead of going into the edit menu and executing all the necessary commands from there, you can temporarily turn your virtual cursor off and execute the same commands with the control key and then turn it on again after doing this and then take the desired action in the word. Vikas Kapoor, MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype ID: dl_vikas Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. - Original Message - From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. Hello Moiz and my dear list members, This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents accessible by using something called Virtual PC cursor. The virtual PC cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links, formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called Virtualising. Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an example. I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how exactly a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for us. I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet explorer I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not virtualised) -- The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying Link in the middle of the line. I think this is how a link element appears on the screen. But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line to present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about the same in the 2nd illustration: ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised) The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a Link dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. So this is how Jaws arranges the data in the web page after virtualising. However, when you copy this text to Microsoft Word, you will observe the text broken something like this: Some fruits and vegetables Instead of: Some fruits and vegetables We can surely remove the line breaks by pressing CTRL+downarrow and then back space followed by space bar as Vetry said, but it takes lot of time. Especially the lengthy documents. So when you want to copy anything from internet explorer, don't use selecting keys like Shift+downarrow, or ctrl+A to select the text. follow these simple steps exactly to copy the exact information without line or page breaks. 1. Open the web page from which you want to copy 2. Press Alt+E to pull down edit menu. 3. Choose Select all, by pressing A. We can't press CTRL+A directly instead of pulling down edit menu because Jaws will select from its virtual buffer. And I think Moiz, this could be the cause of your problem. 4. Again pull down the edit menu (Alt E) and choose copy by pressing C. Now what actually happens is that when you select all and copy from the edit menu, the data gets directly copied from Internet explorer and not from Jaws virtual buffer. 5. Open Microsoft word with a new document. 6. Paste whatever is copied from internet. This will paste the entire web page in your new documents including pictures, tables, links etc. 7. Keep whatever you want and delete unnecessary stuff. Some tips: 1. If you
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Hi Syed A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z. Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from the virtual buffer. Harish. - Original Message - From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hi Moiz Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running Windows XP? If not, no problem. Just try this and let us know 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit Jaws. 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter You should hear an old man speaking. This is called Narrator. It is a screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already have opened Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't work Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hello sir. Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. I'm clueless. Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any difference? Moiz. Message: 11 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hello Moiz and my dear list members, This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents accessible by using something called Virtual PC cursor. The virtual PC cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links, formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called Virtualising. Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an example. I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how exactly a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for us. I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet explorer I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not virtualised) -- The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying Link in the middle of the line. I think this is how a link element appears on the screen. But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line to present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about the same in the 2nd illustration: ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised) The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK
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Hi Harish Thank you for telling me about INS+Z. I din't know that Jaws had this feature of actually turning the virtual PC cursor off. For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: Harish Kotian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hi Syed A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z. Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from the virtual buffer. Harish. - Original Message - From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hi Moiz Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running Windows XP? If not, no problem. Just try this and let us know 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit Jaws. 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter You should hear an old man speaking. This is called Narrator. It is a screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already have opened Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't work Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hello sir. Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. I'm clueless. Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any difference? Moiz. Message: 11 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hello Moiz and my dear list members, This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents accessible by using something called Virtual PC cursor. The virtual PC cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links, formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called Virtualising. Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an example. I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how exactly a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for us. I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet explorer I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not virtualised) -- The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying Link in the middle of the line. I think this is how a link element appears on the screen. But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page
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Dear Moiz, I have tried several times to copy articles from website to MS word. my attempts yielded no good fruits. to overcome this barrier, Now-a-days, I am copying an article from a website to my e-mail edit boxes. It serves the purpose. Regds Sathiyaprakash moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/26/2007 3:04 AM Hello sir. Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. I'm clueless. Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any difference? Moiz. Message: 11 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hello Moiz and my dear list members, This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents accessible by using something called Virtual PC cursor. The virtual PC cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links, formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called Virtualising. Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an example. I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how exactly a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for us. I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet explorer I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not virtualised) -- The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying Link in the middle of the line. I think this is how a link element appears on the screen. But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line to present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about the same in the 2nd illustration: ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised) The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a Link dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. So this is how Jaws arranges the data in the web page after virtualising. However, when you copy this text to Microsoft Word, you will observe the text broken something like this: Some fruits and vegetables Instead of: Some fruits and vegetables We can surely remove the line breaks by pressing CTRL+downarrow and then back space followed by space bar as Vetry said, but it takes lot of time. Especially the lengthy documents. So when you want to copy anything from internet explorer, don't use selecting keys like Shift+downarrow, or ctrl+A to select the text. follow these simple steps exactly to copy the exact information without line or page breaks. 1. Open the web page from which you want to copy 2. Press Alt+E to pull down edit menu. 3. Choose Select all, by pressing A. We can't press CTRL+A directly
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Actually this problem needs to be reported to freedom Scientific. Turnining off virtual cursor is alright but say if you have to copy 2 or 3 paras then you have to delete the entire unwanted stuff. Rohit m - Original Message - From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hi Harish Thank you for telling me about INS+Z. I din't know that Jaws had this feature of actually turning the virtual PC cursor off. For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: Harish Kotian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hi Syed A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z. Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from the virtual buffer. Harish. - Original Message - From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hi Moiz Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running Windows XP? If not, no problem. Just try this and let us know 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit Jaws. 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter You should hear an old man speaking. This is called Narrator. It is a screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already have opened Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't work Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hello sir. Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. I'm clueless. Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any difference? Moiz. Message: 11 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hello Moiz and my dear list members, This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents accessible by using something called Virtual PC cursor. The virtual PC cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links, formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called Virtualising. Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an example. I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how exactly a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for us. I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet explorer I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not virtualised) -- The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough salt is added. These pieces are kept in the sun
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But do they accept our suggestions and implement it? For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: Rohit Trivedi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Actually this problem needs to be reported to freedom Scientific. Turnining off virtual cursor is alright but say if you have to copy 2 or 3 paras then you have to delete the entire unwanted stuff. Rohit m - Original Message - From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hi Harish Thank you for telling me about INS+Z. I din't know that Jaws had this feature of actually turning the virtual PC cursor off. For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: Harish Kotian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hi Syed A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z. Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from the virtual buffer. Harish. - Original Message - From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hi Moiz Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running Windows XP? If not, no problem. Just try this and let us know 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit Jaws. 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter You should hear an old man speaking. This is called Narrator. It is a screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already have opened Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't work Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hello sir. Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. I'm clueless. Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any difference? Moiz. Message: 11 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hello Moiz and my dear list members, This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents accessible by using something called Virtual PC cursor. The virtual PC cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links, formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called Virtualising. Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by an example. I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how exactly a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for us. I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet explorer I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen
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Being the authorized user I can forward the issues to the freedom scientific. But it would be good if someone could structure the question properly and send it over to me. I could do it myself, but under a bit of tight schedule at the moment. - Original Message - From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rohit Trivedi [EMAIL PROTECTED]; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. But do they accept our suggestions and implement it? For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: Rohit Trivedi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Actually this problem needs to be reported to freedom Scientific. Turnining off virtual cursor is alright but say if you have to copy 2 or 3 paras then you have to delete the entire unwanted stuff. Rohit m - Original Message - From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hi Harish Thank you for telling me about INS+Z. I din't know that Jaws had this feature of actually turning the virtual PC cursor off. For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: Harish Kotian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hi Syed A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z. Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from the virtual buffer. Harish. - Original Message - From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hi Moiz Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running Windows XP? If not, no problem. Just try this and let us know 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit Jaws. 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter You should hear an old man speaking. This is called Narrator. It is a screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already have opened Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't work Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? For your success Syed Imran - Original Message - From: moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hello sir. Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. I'm clueless. Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any difference? Moiz. Message: 11 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 From: Syed Imran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hello Moiz and my dear list members, This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy the exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you that the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope you don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents accessible by using something called Virtual PC cursor. The virtual PC cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, links, formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called Virtualising. Virtualising includes finding out the different elements on a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a sighted person
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Thanks a lot for the responses. The edit menu wala option is not working on my computer. Ideally it should, I'm clueless as to where the thing is going wrong. Please help me out of it for the documents that I need to read are huge and using the control down arrow option will consume a lot of time. Thanks once again. Message: 8 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:31:22 +0530 From: Vikas Kapoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Instead of using the copy cut paste command through controlC and controlV, just do it from the edit menu, you'll retain the exact layout of the page in the word which you have seen on the net. Although this may not sound logical in the first place, using copy cut paste through controlC and controlV is very much different from doing the same using the edit menu in terms of producing results. Vikas Kapoor, MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype ID: dl_vikas Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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I think the edit menu option works only if we are copying the whole webpage. In that case, simply going to the edit menu and clicking the select all option, then going to the edit menu and clicking the copy option, and finally going to the word document option and pasting the copied content works very well. This is probably because, in this method, the system copies the content of the webpage as it is and not the way jaws virtualises it. However, when it comes to copy the selected texts and not the entire webpage, then I think this method hardly works. You need to select the content with the usual shift down errow, go to the edit menu and do the rest. Since the selected text is virtualised, there is an ample chance of the layout being spoiled in the word document. May I know why do you need to copy the internet content in the word document? Probably your main purpose will help us more to suggest alternative methods. Regards. - Original Message - From: moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Thanks a lot for the responses. The edit menu wala option is not working on my computer. Ideally it should, I'm clueless as to where the thing is going wrong. Please help me out of it for the documents that I need to read are huge and using the control down arrow option will consume a lot of time. Thanks once again. Message: 8 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:31:22 +0530 From: Vikas Kapoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Instead of using the copy cut paste command through controlC and controlV, just do it from the edit menu, you'll retain the exact layout of the page in the word which you have seen on the net. Although this may not sound logical in the first place, using copy cut paste through controlC and controlV is very much different from doing the same using the edit menu in terms of producing results. Vikas Kapoor, MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype ID: dl_vikas Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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That's correct. And also when you copy the entire web page through the layout method, then it copies the links of the original page in a weered table format and it makes really irritating. - Original Message - From: Viraj Kafle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. I think the edit menu option works only if we are copying the whole webpage. In that case, simply going to the edit menu and clicking the select all option, then going to the edit menu and clicking the copy option, and finally going to the word document option and pasting the copied content works very well. This is probably because, in this method, the system copies the content of the webpage as it is and not the way jaws virtualises it. However, when it comes to copy the selected texts and not the entire webpage, then I think this method hardly works. You need to select the content with the usual shift down errow, go to the edit menu and do the rest. Since the selected text is virtualised, there is an ample chance of the layout being spoiled in the word document. May I know why do you need to copy the internet content in the word document? Probably your main purpose will help us more to suggest alternative methods. Regards. - Original Message - From: moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Thanks a lot for the responses. The edit menu wala option is not working on my computer. Ideally it should, I'm clueless as to where the thing is going wrong. Please help me out of it for the documents that I need to read are huge and using the control down arrow option will consume a lot of time. Thanks once again. Message: 8 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:31:22 +0530 From: Vikas Kapoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Instead of using the copy cut paste command through controlC and controlV, just do it from the edit menu, you'll retain the exact layout of the page in the word which you have seen on the net. Although this may not sound logical in the first place, using copy cut paste through controlC and controlV is very much different from doing the same using the edit menu in terms of producing results. Vikas Kapoor, MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype ID: dl_vikas Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Hello sir. I'll be temporarily fine even if the select all option were to work on my computer. Whether jaws is acting wierdly or whether I'm unable to grasp the thing properly...I am not sure. This method is intrinsic for a research that I have undertaken. I need to access online international law journals for important articles on the subject of my study. Saving the web page is not available as an option. So I somehow need to copy the thing and have the same in a word document. The page and line breaks tend to have a deleterious effect on my concentration and efficiency. What do I do? Moiz. Message: 4 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:21:41 +0530 From: Viraj Kafle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I think the edit menu option works only if we are copying the whole webpage. In that case, simply going to the edit menu and clicking the select all option, then going to the edit menu and clicking the copy option, and finally going to the word document option and pasting the copied content works very well. This is probably because, in this method, the system copies the content of the webpage as it is and not the way jaws virtualises it. However, when it comes to copy the selected texts and not the entire webpage, then I think this method hardly works. You need to select the content with the usual shift down errow, go to the edit menu and do the rest. Since the selected text is virtualised, there is an ample chance of the layout being spoiled in the word document. May I know why do you need to copy the internet content in the word document? Probably your main purpose will help us more to suggest alternative methods. Regards. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Can you give us the website. The problem is that there seems to be no exact solution as such, but some alternative can be reached at if we look at the website collectively. Regards. - Original Message - From: moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hello sir. I'll be temporarily fine even if the select all option were to work on my computer. Whether jaws is acting wierdly or whether I'm unable to grasp the thing properly...I am not sure. This method is intrinsic for a research that I have undertaken. I need to access online international law journals for important articles on the subject of my study. Saving the web page is not available as an option. So I somehow need to copy the thing and have the same in a word document. The page and line breaks tend to have a deleterious effect on my concentration and efficiency. What do I do? Moiz. Message: 4 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:21:41 +0530 From: Viraj Kafle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I think the edit menu option works only if we are copying the whole webpage. In that case, simply going to the edit menu and clicking the select all option, then going to the edit menu and clicking the copy option, and finally going to the word document option and pasting the copied content works very well. This is probably because, in this method, the system copies the content of the webpage as it is and not the way jaws virtualises it. However, when it comes to copy the selected texts and not the entire webpage, then I think this method hardly works. You need to select the content with the usual shift down errow, go to the edit menu and do the rest. Since the selected text is virtualised, there is an ample chance of the layout being spoiled in the word document. May I know why do you need to copy the internet content in the word document? Probably your main purpose will help us more to suggest alternative methods. Regards. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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I don't think that it will work. That's like destroying/rebuilding the beautiful house in search of a non-existing gold mine. - Original Message - From: moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hello. I dont think any alternate method will work over there. I'll try to repair jaws and then see what happens. In the mean while, do let me know if any other ideas strike you. Moiz. Message: 3 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:37:34 +0530 From: Viraj Kafle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Can you give us the website. The problem is that there seems to be no exact solution as such, but some alternative can be reached at if we look at the website collectively. Regards. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Hi everyone This is basically a problem with I. E. Probably using any other browsers like Firefox Or Lynx should not have problems like this. Harish - Original Message - From: moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. Hello. I dont think any alternate method will work over there. I'll try to repair jaws and then see what happens. In the mean while, do let me know if any other ideas strike you. Moiz. Message: 3 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:37:34 +0530 From: Viraj Kafle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Can you give us the website. The problem is that there seems to be no exact solution as such, but some alternative can be reached at if we look at the website collectively. Regards. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] page breaks and jaws.
Hello. Using the cut, copy and paste commands with jaws while transfering data on a web page into a word document produces peculiar results. The stuff comes up all right but then page breaks get inserted automatically. This has been a major irritant over the past few years. How do I resolve the issue? My apologies for raising the issue once again. But I couldnt quite figure out what exactly was said the last time around. I reiterate that I am no computer geek. So please try to be a bit elaborate in your explanations. Thanks a lot in advance, Moiz. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Just to add to your point, not only page breaks, but also lines get inserted. What I do is a bit lengthier process, but at least it works for me. Starting from the top of a particular paragraph, keep pressing control+down aero. Each time you press it, you will be in a continuing paragraph and just press back-space and spacebar ones to remove the unnecessary lines and to make sure that words are not merged. When you get to the end of a paragraph, then you will here blank. Just leave out that blank line and go to the next paragraph. Repeat these steps until the end of the document. I would also like to know from others if there is a quicker and easier process than the one I have just described. Vetri. - Original Message - From: moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: [AI] page breaks and jaws. Hello. Using the cut, copy and paste commands with jaws while transfering data on a web page into a word document produces peculiar results. The stuff comes up all right but then page breaks get inserted automatically. This has been a major irritant over the past few years. How do I resolve the issue? My apologies for raising the issue once again. But I couldnt quite figure out what exactly was said the last time around. I reiterate that I am no computer geek. So please try to be a bit elaborate in your explanations. Thanks a lot in advance, Moiz. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.
Instead of using the copy cut paste command through controlC and controlV, just do it from the edit menu, you'll retain the exact layout of the page in the word which you have seen on the net. Although this may not sound logical in the first place, using copy cut paste through controlC and controlV is very much different from doing the same using the edit menu in terms of producing results. Vikas Kapoor, MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype ID: dl_vikas Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. - Original Message - From: Vetrivel Murugan, Adhimoolam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:50 AM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. Just to add to your point, not only page breaks, but also lines get inserted. What I do is a bit lengthier process, but at least it works for me. Starting from the top of a particular paragraph, keep pressing control+down aero. Each time you press it, you will be in a continuing paragraph and just press back-space and spacebar ones to remove the unnecessary lines and to make sure that words are not merged. When you get to the end of a paragraph, then you will here blank. Just leave out that blank line and go to the next paragraph. Repeat these steps until the end of the document. I would also like to know from others if there is a quicker and easier process than the one I have just described. Vetri. - Original Message - From: moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: [AI] page breaks and jaws. Hello. Using the cut, copy and paste commands with jaws while transfering data on a web page into a word document produces peculiar results. The stuff comes up all right but then page breaks get inserted automatically. This has been a major irritant over the past few years. How do I resolve the issue? My apologies for raising the issue once again. But I couldnt quite figure out what exactly was said the last time around. I reiterate that I am no computer geek. So please try to be a bit elaborate in your explanations. Thanks a lot in advance, Moiz. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.
This is what I do, when I have to cut/paste an article from e-mail to word. When you do that the sentences are broken and sometimes the para-breaks given by the writer would miss out. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vetrivel Murugan, Adhimoolam Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:50 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. *** No virus was detected in the attachment no filename Your mail has been scanned by InterScan. ***-*** Just to add to your point, not only page breaks, but also lines get inserted. What I do is a bit lengthier process, but at least it works for me. Starting from the top of a particular paragraph, keep pressing control+down aero. Each time you press it, you will be in a continuing paragraph and just press back-space and spacebar ones to remove the unnecessary lines and to make sure that words are not merged. When you get to the end of a paragraph, then you will here blank. Just leave out that blank line and go to the next paragraph. Repeat these steps until the end of the document. I would also like to know from others if there is a quicker and easier process than the one I have just described. Vetri. - Original Message - From: moiz tundawalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: [AI] page breaks and jaws. Hello. Using the cut, copy and paste commands with jaws while transfering data on a web page into a word document produces peculiar results. The stuff comes up all right but then page breaks get inserted automatically. This has been a major irritant over the past few years. How do I resolve the issue? My apologies for raising the issue once again. But I couldnt quite figure out what exactly was said the last time around. I reiterate that I am no computer geek. So please try to be a bit elaborate in your explanations. Thanks a lot in advance, Moiz. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
