RE: not able to create test account from test manager account

['Google Ads API Forum Advisor' via Google Ads API and AdWords API Forum]

Hi,

Thank you for reaching out to the Google Ads API support team.

Please be informed that before adding sub-accounts, you will need to link an 
existing account that has a spending history of over $1000 and has a history of 
policy compliance. For further details, please refer to the "create new Google 
Ads account" documentation.

If you want more assistance on this, since account-related issues are handled 
by the Google Ads Product support team, I would recommend reaching out to the 
Google Ads Product support team, as they are better equipped to address your 
concern. Please note that our team can only assist with technical queries or 
concerns related to the Google Ads API.

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(ADR-00242160)

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Not able to create test account from test manager account

[nan nangua]

Hi,

I just tried to setup google ads api, after creating a test manager 
account, I tried to create a test account under it, however it reports 
below information:

To create new accounts, link an existing account

This needs to be a Google Ads account that


   - 
  - 
 - has spent more than $1,000
 - has a history of policy compliance
  
Once the account is linked, you'll get access to account creation within a 
day

Learn more about account creation 
<https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/7456139?hl=en_US>


What is it really about? 

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I don't have permission to access test account information

[knepp harr]

 error:  rpc error: code = PermissionDenied desc = The caller does not have 
permission

When I use the CustomerService.ListAccessibleCustomers method with my 
production manager account to list all accounts that I have direct access 
to, everything works fine until I try to access the detailed information of 
those accounts, just before accessing the test manager account. However, an 
error occurs when accessing the test manager account.

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Re: Can't create Account on Manager Test account

[knepp harr]

You can use code to create test users

在2024年1月22日星期一 UTC+8 14:51:58 写道：

> I have created google ads test manager account for testing purpose on dev 
> mode but to create test campaign i need to create account under manager 
> account but i got 
>
> To create new accounts, link an existing account
> This needs to be a Google Ads account that
>
>- has spent more than $1,000
>- has a history of policy compliance
>
>
> And in dev i can't use active ads account because my app isn't verified 
> yet and to verify my app i need a live site with complete video to show 
> usage of ads account scope which i don't have right now because its under 
> development right now
>

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Can't create Account on Manager Test account

[Muhammad Awais]

I have created google ads test manager account for testing purpose on dev 
mode but to create test campaign i need to create account under manager 
account but i got 

To create new accounts, link an existing account
This needs to be a Google Ads account that

   - has spent more than $1,000
   - has a history of policy compliance


And in dev i can't use active ads account because my app isn't verified yet 
and to verify my app i need a live site with complete video to show usage 
of ads account scope which i don't have right now because its under 
development right now

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Re: test account cannot be created

[knepp harr]

Hi kevin,
Sorry, I did not check the forum in time. Regarding this issue, in fact, 
you can create a test user through code, so that you will not require the 
existing account to be associated

On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 3:05:57 AM UTC+8 Kevin wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It's been around a week - any update on this?
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 7:27 PM Google Ads API Forum Advisor 
>  wrote:
>
>> Hi, 
>>
>> Thank you for reaching out to the Google Ads API support team.
>>
>> By reviewing your concern, I understand that you are getting an issue 
>> while creating the test account from the test manager account.
>>
>> I will check with our team regarding your issue and one of my team 
>> members will reach out to you once we have an update on this. Meanwhile, 
>> your patience is highly appreciated.
>>
>> If you have any further queries related to the Google Ads API, please 
>> open a new forum thread.
>>
>>   
>> This message is in relation to case "ref:!00D1U01174p.!5004Q02rVUTH:ref"
>>
>> Thanks,
>>   
>> [image: Google Logo] Google Ads API Team 
>>
>>
>>

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Re: test account cannot be created

[Kevin]

Hi,

It's been around a week - any update on this?

Thanks,
Kevin

On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 7:27 PM Google Ads API Forum Advisor
 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thank you for reaching out to the Google Ads API support team.
>
> By reviewing your concern, I understand that you are getting an issue
> while creating the test account from the test manager account.
>
> I will check with our team regarding your issue and one of my team members
> will reach out to you once we have an update on this. Meanwhile, your
> patience is highly appreciated.
>
> If you have any further queries related to the Google Ads API, please open
> a new forum thread.
>
>
> This message is in relation to case "ref:!00D1U01174p.!5004Q02rVUTH:ref"
>
> Thanks,
>
> [image: Google Logo] Google Ads API Team
>
>
>

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Re: test account cannot be created

[Kevin]

I'm seeing the same thing on my test account.
This comes as a surprise because these requirements didn't exist for test 
accounts last year.
I'd love to understand more about this change - please reach out to me as 
well.

On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 5:05:54 AM UTC-8 Google Ads API Forum 
Advisor wrote:

> Hi, 
>
> Thank you for reaching out to the Google Ads API support team.
>
> After reviewing your query, I understand that you are getting an issue 
> while creating the test account from the test manager account.
>
> I will check with our team regarding your issue and one of my team members 
> will reach out to you once we have an update on this. Meanwhile, your 
> patience is highly appreciated.
>   
> This message is in relation to case "ref:!00D1U01174p.!5004Q02rVUTH:ref"
>
> Thanks,
>   
> [image: Google Logo] Google Ads API Team 
>
>  
>
>

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Re: cannot create campaign in test account

[Ryan Marks]

I was attempting to create the campaign using the Google Ads UI.

Ryan
On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 1:36:32 PM UTC-6 Google Ads API Forum 
Advisor wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thank you for reaching out to the Google Ads API support team.
>
> After reviewing your concern, I understand that you have an issue 
> regarding creating a campaign in the test account. Could you please confirm 
> if you are creating campaigns using the Google Ads API or the Google Ads UI?
>
> If you are using the Google Ads API, kindly provide us with the complete 
> API logs (*request* 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/concepts/field-service#request>
>  and *response* 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/concepts/field-service#response>
>  with *request-id* 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/concepts/call-structure#request-id>
>  and *request header* 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/concepts/call-structure#request_headers>)
>  generated 
> at your end and uncropped UI screenshot of the Google Ads account where you 
> are facing the issue.
>
> If you are using a client library and haven't enabled the logging yet, I 
> would request you to enable logging for the specific client library that 
> you are using. You can refer to the guides *Java* 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/client-libs/java/logging>
> , *.Net* 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/client-libs/dotnet/logging>
> , *PHP* 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/client-libs/php/logging>
> , *Python* 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/client-libs/python/logging>
> , *Ruby* 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/client-libs/ruby/logging>
>  or *Perl* 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/client-libs/perl/logging> 
> to 
> enable logging at your end. For REST interface requests, you can enable 
> logging via the curl command by using the -i flag.
>
> You can send the details via *Reply privately to the author option*, or 
> *direct 
> private reply* to this email.
>   
> This message is in relation to case "ref:!00D1U01174p.!5004Q02r24Bw:ref"
>
> Thanks,
>   
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>
>  
>
>

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Test account cannot be created

[knepp harr]

According to the requirements, I created a test manager account, but, when 
I create a test account from the test manager account,He asked me to 
associate with other manager accounts![image: 
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Re: developer token on test account

[Ashley Pfeil]

There's no case id.
I requested Basic access.

My main problem at the moment is that testing isn't working.

On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 4:12:16 AM UTC-4 Google Ads API Forum 
Advisor wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thank you for reaching out to the Google Ads API support team.
>
> After reviewing your concern, I understand that you have applied for API 
> access and you haven't received any updates on your application status.
>
> Since the access requests are handled by the Google Ads API Compliance 
> team, we are transferring the case to the Ads API Compliance team. Can you 
> kindly provide the following information for the compliance team to further 
> assist you with your concern: 
>
>- Case ID generated from the compliance team in the format 
>0-0###0 (if there is any generated). 
>- The type of access which you have requested for? 
>
> @Compliance team, please confirm if you are able to assist in the below 
> access request.
>
> Summary: The user has applied for API access with the below details. 
>
>- Google Ads Manager Account (MCC) ID: requested 
>- Cases ID: requested 
>- Access type: requested 
>
> Do reach out to the Google Ads API support team 
> , for any 
> queries related to the API.
>
>
>   
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>
> Thanks,
>   
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>
>
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RE: developer token on test account

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Hi,

Thank you for reaching out to the Google Ads API support team.

After reviewing your concern, I understand that you have applied for API access 
and you haven't received any updates on your application status.

Since the access requests are handled by the Google Ads API Compliance team, we 
are transferring the case to the Ads API Compliance team. Can you kindly 
provide the following information for the compliance team to further assist you 
with your concern:

Case ID generated from the compliance team in the format 0-0###0 (if 
there is any generated).
The type of access which you have requested for?

@Compliance team, please confirm if you are able to assist in the below access 
request.

Summary: The user has applied for API access with the below details.

Google Ads Manager Account (MCC) ID: requested
Cases ID: requested
Access type: requested

Do reach out to the Google Ads API support team, for any queries related to the 
API.


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Developer token on test account

[Ashley Pfeil]

I have a developer token on a production manager account. At the moment 
it's only approved for testing. But I can't seem to test anything. I 
followed these 
instructions 
https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/best-practices/test-accounts 
and created a test manager account with an account in it. But the token on 
the production manager account doesn't seem to want to work on the test 
account. In the test manager account I looked for API Center to create a 
developer token on that account, but it doesn't exist there. When I try to 
use the developer token that's on the production manager account on the 
account that's within the test manager account, I get "User doesn't have 
permission to access customer. Note: If you're accessing a client customer, 
the manager's customer id must be set in the 'login-customer-id' header. 
See 
https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/concepts/call-structure#cid"; 
I've tried setting the login-customer-id to both the production 
manager account number and the test manager account number. Both result in 
the same error.

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RE: where can i find the api center page of a test account

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Hi Team,

Thank you for reaching out to the Google Ads API support team.

Upon checking your query, I would suggest you to refer to this document that 
gives more information related to fetching developer token. Please feel free to 
get back to us, if you still have any queries.

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Where can I find the API Center page of a test account

[Wayne L]

Hi,
new to google ads and I tried to understand google ads api, I watch these 
<http://youtube.com/watch?v=xm5-iDOhF_8&list=PLKByxjzUC-N_Uep8VTb5Z3EAguG_hu8dI&index=2>
 video 
made by official google ads developer channel. I followed those step and 
create a test manager and client account, when I tried to filled that .yaml 
file up I find out that I can't fetch developer token of my test account 
because the API Center page is not shown at the setting page.
Am I do anything wrong or I just can't use a test account for testing?

Thanks,
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RE: how do i create a test account?

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Hi,

Thank you for reaching out to Google Ads API Forum.

Moving forward with your concern, can you try clicking on NEW GOOGLE ADS 
ACCOUNT link when clicking on the Create a test manager account button from 
this guide 
(https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/first-call/test-accounts#create)?

Let us know how it goes on your end.

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How do I create a test account?

[Dominik Chrástecký]

I'm trying to connect an app to Google Ads but it seems to fight me 
wherever it can and the documentation is abysmal.

I now need to create a test account that I can test my app on but there 
doesn't seem to be any up-to-date documentation.

Can anyone help?

I've tried reading through this 
<https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/first-call/test-accounts>, 
but it seems like some steps are missing - when I click the "Create a test 
manager account" button, it just redirects me to a list of accounts.

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RE: how can i test html5 ads with my test account?

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Hi,

Thank you for raising your concern to the Google Ads API team.

Please be informed that not all features can be tested on a test account. This 
includes bid simulations, conversion uploads, and billing. Other features, 
including recommendations, have limited functionality within test accounts 
because test accounts do not generate serving data, more information here: 
https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/first-call/test-accounts#limitations

One listed requirement for HTML5 ads is that the the account has spent more 
than $9000 USD, and is more than 90 days old, which would not be possible on a 
test account. In order to upload HTML5 media ads, you should refer here for 
more information on the requirements. We recommend that you test the said 
feature on your production account that can meet the requirements.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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How can I test HTML5 ads with my test account?

[Ronny “PreludeBA4” Lehne]

Hello,

I have integrated the creation of HTML5 ads via the Google Ads API into our 
system. Now I would like to test this. Unfortunately, this is not possible 
because the activation for HTML5 ads was rejected for our test account. 
Probably because one of the requirements was not met.

How can I test this now?
Testing in a productive account is no option.

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Google Ads Getting API on Test Account

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Hello,

I have a problem about the Google Ads API. Our job is that pull data from 
google ads api on test account for testing. pls help us!!

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GoogleAds API Test Account

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How we can get OAuth2 credentials with Test account , is there any way for 
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Re: Test Account to Basic Account - API Centre

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Hi,

Thank you for raising this concern to the *Google Ads API* support team.

Regarding this, are you referring to the *developer token access level*? If 
so, kindly note that please note that when it comes to the token process 
and approval, it is the Google Ads API Compliance who handles it. Based on 
this *basic access application form*, provided that each question has been 
thoroughly addressed, applications are typically reviewed within three 
business days, with an initial decision processed soon after, though some 
complex reviews may take longer. Having said that, you may reach out to the 
Compliance team via this *form* if you happen to ask for updates or status 
of your application.

Links included in this email:
*Google Ads API* - https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/start
*developer token access level - *
https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/access-levels#access_levels_2

*basic access application form* - 
https://support.google.com/adspolicy/contact/new_token_application
*form* - https://support.google.com/adspolicy/contact/contact_ads_api

Regards,
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On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 8:11:31 PM UTC+8 
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> Hello! How long does it take for the document to get approved to go from 
> Test account to basic account?

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Re: Test Account to Basic Account - API Centre

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Re-posting the last inquiry (
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wasn't routed to our support queue.

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> Hello! How long does it take for the document to get approved to go from 
> Test account to basic account?

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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

Thanks. I was confusing "verify" and "publish" as the same thing. I see my 
misunderstanding now and I will give this a try. Thanks for all of your 
help!

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 4:48:18 AM UTC-8 adsapi wrote:

> Hello,
>
> The workaround I suggested already should circumvent this limit. I have 
> suggested that you publish your app (i.e. don't leave it in testing) which 
> will allow refresh tokens to persist beyond 7 days. Your app will be 
> unverified, which has some limitations (100 total refresh tokens and a 
> warning on the OAuth consent screen), which should be acceptable for your 
> use case. As long as you're okay with these limitations, you never *have 
> to* verify your app.
>
>
> Regards,
> Mike, Google Ads API Team
>
> ref:_00D1U1174p._5004Q2ewsYl:ref
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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Hello,

The workaround I suggested already should circumvent this limit. I have 
suggested that you publish your app (i.e. don't leave it in testing) which will 
allow refresh tokens to persist beyond 7 days. Your app will be unverified, 
which has some limitations (100 total refresh tokens and a warning on the OAuth 
consent screen), which should be acceptable for your use case. As long as 
you're okay with these limitations, you never have to verify your app.

Regards,
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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For reference:
https://support.google.com/cloud/answer/10311615#zippy=%2Ctesting

" Authorizations by a test user will expire seven days from the time of 
consent. "

On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:17:02 PM UTC-8 Chad Wood wrote:

> Thanks :) I appreciate the help.
> Regarding the refresh token expiring every 7 days then. Is there no 
> workaround on this for me?
>
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:30:38 AM UTC-8 adsapi wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm fairly certain that you actually don't need to get your app 
>> "approved" or "verified" in order to use it for your use case. You can't 
>> generate more than 100 refresh tokens (but you only need one), and your app 
>> will show a warning on the consent screen (but you're the only one using 
>> that screen), but otherwise it should function even without going through 
>> that process.
>>
>> I do not believe that you will be able to get approved given the way your 
>> app works. Using an unverified external app is the workaround.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike, Google Ads API Team
>>
>> ref:_00D1U1174p._5004Q2ewsYl:ref
>>
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

Thanks :) I appreciate the help.
Regarding the refresh token expiring every 7 days then. Is there no 
workaround on this for me?

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> Hello,
>
> I'm fairly certain that you actually don't need to get your app "approved" 
> or "verified" in order to use it for your use case. You can't generate more 
> than 100 refresh tokens (but you only need one), and your app will show a 
> warning on the consent screen (but you're the only one using that screen), 
> but otherwise it should function even without going through that process.
>
> I do not believe that you will be able to get approved given the way your 
> app works. Using an unverified external app is the workaround.
>
>
> Regards,
> Mike, Google Ads API Team
>
> ref:_00D1U1174p._5004Q2ewsYl:ref
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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Hello,

I'm fairly certain that you actually don't need to get your app "approved" or 
"verified" in order to use it for your use case. You can't generate more than 
100 refresh tokens (but you only need one), and your app will show a warning on 
the consent screen (but you're the only one using that screen), but otherwise 
it should function even without going through that process.

I do not believe that you will be able to get approved given the way your app 
works. Using an unverified external app is the workaround.

Regards,
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

Hello, just checking back on this. 

I am fine with submitting the app for approval under the notion that it is 
for external use -- even though it is not for external use.
At the end of the day, I only care to make ends meet and keep security 
tight. 

However, I don't want the review process to develop into myself trying to 
meet standards that are difficult to ascertain when the app doesn't 
necessarily exist in a state that makes those standards necessarily in the 
first place.
Like for example, I wouldn't want to spend weeks going back and forth 
trying to fine-tune a privacy policy page and ToS for something that only I 
am going to use anyway... but if it must be done then so be it. I 
understand our unique position may warrant unique requirements.
In all fairness, I'm not even really sure how complex the approval process 
is, and maybe my concern here isn't even all that aligned with reality.

That is why I ask though. Is this approval something that will be still 
required still? What will that entail for me?
Or can we potentially work out a custom solution given these circumstances? 

Thanks,
Chad

On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:00:49 PM UTC-8 Chad Wood wrote:

> What about the review process. I assume that, despite my edge-case, I will 
> still be required to submit for “external app approval”, yes?
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 5:58 PM Chad Wood  wrote:
>
>> I see. Correct me if I’m wrong here, but I think I’m starting to 
>> understand. Practically speaking in this case, there really isn’t a 
>> difference between my my app being published versus unpublished, except 
>> that the limitations (of 100users and 7days/refresh token) are lifted. Is 
>> this right? Because I think anyone can verify themselves as it currently 
>> stands, though new users would add tally against the 100user total. So 
>> publishing isn’t really making my app available to anyone with a Google 
>> Account; that is technically already be true… right?
>>
>> My system is already set up to store everything encrypted with 
>> environment variables and whatnot, so I guess I do have a “log in” 
>> already—because a user would need to log into my work environment in order 
>> to access anything in a decrypted state. 
>>
>> If this is correct, then I think I was just misunderstanding due to the 
>> verbiage used on that pop up. Nobody should be able to access my app 
>> because I don’t go around distributing copies of my work environment. Is my 
>> logic accurate with all of this?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 4:35 PM Google Ads API Forum Advisor 
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Essentially, if you have a Google Workspace setup, then Google can 
>>> handle some parts of the authentication for you, and ensure that only users 
>>> within your Workspace domain are able to create refresh tokens.
>>>
>>> If you aren't using that, then Google does not do any checking of this 
>>> sort on our side, meaning that the burden is on you to provide your own 
>>> security measures to ensure that the correct subset of users is able to log 
>>> in. Remember, that what we're doing here is a workaround for your edge-case 
>>> situation, and the "normal" situation for someone choosing this option 
>>> would be for someone who was choosing to publish their app widely. However, 
>>> in your case, where you have no intention of doing that, what this message 
>>> really boils down to is that Google is not going to restrict who can create 
>>> refresh tokens to only people within your Google Workspace domain. But you 
>>> can still restrict that, by not sharing your client ID and client secret, 
>>> and by building up your own login system.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike, Google Ads API Team
>>>
>>> ref:_00D1U1174p._5004Q2ewsYl:ref
>>>
>>

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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

What about the review process. I assume that, despite my edge-case, I will
still be required to submit for “external app approval”, yes?

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 5:58 PM Chad Wood  wrote:

> I see. Correct me if I’m wrong here, but I think I’m starting to
> understand. Practically speaking in this case, there really isn’t a
> difference between my my app being published versus unpublished, except
> that the limitations (of 100users and 7days/refresh token) are lifted. Is
> this right? Because I think anyone can verify themselves as it currently
> stands, though new users would add tally against the 100user total. So
> publishing isn’t really making my app available to anyone with a Google
> Account; that is technically already be true… right?
>
> My system is already set up to store everything encrypted with environment
> variables and whatnot, so I guess I do have a “log in” already—because a
> user would need to log into my work environment in order to access anything
> in a decrypted state.
>
> If this is correct, then I think I was just misunderstanding due to the
> verbiage used on that pop up. Nobody should be able to access my app
> because I don’t go around distributing copies of my work environment. Is my
> logic accurate with all of this?
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 4:35 PM Google Ads API Forum Advisor
>  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Essentially, if you have a Google Workspace setup, then Google can handle
>> some parts of the authentication for you, and ensure that only users within
>> your Workspace domain are able to create refresh tokens.
>>
>> If you aren't using that, then Google does not do any checking of this
>> sort on our side, meaning that the burden is on you to provide your own
>> security measures to ensure that the correct subset of users is able to log
>> in. Remember, that what we're doing here is a workaround for your edge-case
>> situation, and the "normal" situation for someone choosing this option
>> would be for someone who was choosing to publish their app widely. However,
>> in your case, where you have no intention of doing that, what this message
>> really boils down to is that Google is not going to restrict who can create
>> refresh tokens to only people within your Google Workspace domain. But you
>> can still restrict that, by not sharing your client ID and client secret,
>> and by building up your own login system.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike, Google Ads API Team
>>
>> ref:_00D1U1174p._5004Q2ewsYl:ref
>>
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

I see. Correct me if I’m wrong here, but I think I’m starting to
understand. Practically speaking in this case, there really isn’t a
difference between my my app being published versus unpublished, except
that the limitations (of 100users and 7days/refresh token) are lifted. Is
this right? Because I think anyone can verify themselves as it currently
stands, though new users would add tally against the 100user total. So
publishing isn’t really making my app available to anyone with a Google
Account; that is technically already be true… right?

My system is already set up to store everything encrypted with environment
variables and whatnot, so I guess I do have a “log in” already—because a
user would need to log into my work environment in order to access anything
in a decrypted state.

If this is correct, then I think I was just misunderstanding due to the
verbiage used on that pop up. Nobody should be able to access my app
because I don’t go around distributing copies of my work environment. Is my
logic accurate with all of this?

Thanks.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 4:35 PM Google Ads API Forum Advisor
 wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Essentially, if you have a Google Workspace setup, then Google can handle
> some parts of the authentication for you, and ensure that only users within
> your Workspace domain are able to create refresh tokens.
>
> If you aren't using that, then Google does not do any checking of this
> sort on our side, meaning that the burden is on you to provide your own
> security measures to ensure that the correct subset of users is able to log
> in. Remember, that what we're doing here is a workaround for your edge-case
> situation, and the "normal" situation for someone choosing this option
> would be for someone who was choosing to publish their app widely. However,
> in your case, where you have no intention of doing that, what this message
> really boils down to is that Google is not going to restrict who can create
> refresh tokens to only people within your Google Workspace domain. But you
> can still restrict that, by not sharing your client ID and client secret,
> and by building up your own login system.
>
>
> Regards,
> Mike, Google Ads API Team
>
> ref:_00D1U1174p._5004Q2ewsYl:ref
>

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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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Hello,

Essentially, if you have a Google Workspace setup, then Google can handle some 
parts of the authentication for you, and ensure that only users within your 
Workspace domain are able to create refresh tokens.

If you aren't using that, then Google does not do any checking of this sort on 
our side, meaning that the burden is on you to provide your own security 
measures to ensure that the correct subset of users is able to log in. 
Remember, that what we're doing here is a workaround for your edge-case 
situation, and the "normal" situation for someone choosing this option would be 
for someone who was choosing to publish their app widely. However, in your 
case, where you have no intention of doing that, what this message really boils 
down to is that Google is not going to restrict who can create refresh tokens 
to only people within your Google Workspace domain. But you can still restrict 
that, by not sharing your client ID and client secret, and by building up your 
own login system.

Regards,
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

What is it entailing by "your app will become available to anyone with a 
Google account"?
Does Google start hosting the app somewhere? In the Google Pay Market 
maybe? I honestly have no idea. How would an external person find my app, 
even if accidentally, should I choose to publish?

On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 10:10:17 AM UTC-8 adsapi wrote:

> Hello,
>
> As for that screenshot, you are still in control of your app. It is a 
> piece of software you are developing, so you can build whatever feature you 
> want in it. Namely, if you build some kind of custom login system into your 
> app, and then only provide logins to authorized users, it's not like random 
> Internet users would be able to just access your app automatically.
>
> I would recommend going this route rather than trying to automate fetching 
> a refresh token. I imagine that the automation progress would be quite 
> prone to breaking if we were to update the website in any way, and I would 
> wager that it's designed in a complicated way to try to prevent what you're 
> doing very intentionally. I can't help you troubleshoot that process, so I 
> think publishing the app and building your own app authentication system is 
> the way to go.
>
>
> Regards,
> Mike, Google Ads API Team
>
> ref:_00D1U1174p._5004Q2ewsYl:ref
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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Hello,

As for that screenshot, you are still in control of your app. It is a piece of 
software you are developing, so you can build whatever feature you want in it. 
Namely, if you build some kind of custom login system into your app, and then 
only provide logins to authorized users, it's not like random Internet users 
would be able to just access your app automatically.

I would recommend going this route rather than trying to automate fetching a 
refresh token. I imagine that the automation progress would be quite prone to 
breaking if we were to update the website in any way, and I would wager that 
it's designed in a complicated way to try to prevent what you're doing very 
intentionally. I can't help you troubleshoot that process, so I think 
publishing the app and building your own app authentication system is the way 
to go.

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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

Hello,

Thanks for getting back. Yes that is was I figured sadly. Honestly though, 
I'm happy with any solution that makes it so that the refresh token doesn't 
need to be retrieved every week. Security implication are a concern though, 
which is why I was unsure about publishing the app.
[image: 2022-11-30 09_09_00-Cortana.png]
Do you know if there is a way around this?

I've already looked into automating the refresh token retrieval process. I 
got quite close, but there is just one roadblock here that I can not get 
past. It's a very technical issue;
During the OAUTH process, the user (me) picks their account from the list 
of Google accounts in their browser, then acknowledges that the app is 
unverified, and then agrees to the app permissions.
That last step, "*then agrees to the app permissions*" is where the magic 
happens. 
At this stage, my browser generates a list of unlabeled data points (likely 
obfuscated because the protocol designers were hoping to prevent people 
from doing exactly this).

It looks a lot like this: 
[0, "ChR!490t-wqqnpg5nb.fjw044qh", True, True, None, False, 0, 1, 1, 0]
This blog post 
 
makes mention of the array I am talking about, "f.req", but for a different 
process entirely. In the blog post, "f.req" is provided different variables 
than in my case, so it is not very helpful.

Once the browser generates that list, it sends it to your authentication 
server and then your authentication server responds with a URL. That URL is 
already pre-setup by your server, and it contains the refresh token within 
it. My browser redirects to the URL and I get the refresh token printed out 
in my PC console.

For my case, I was able to reverse engineer most of the data points, except 
two. That second entry that begins with "!ChR", I can not figure how to 
reverse engineer its production. If I can figure this out, then I could 
fully automate the process of getting refresh tokens by making my program 
just create the array and send it to your server (same as my browser does 
in the manual process). Alternatively, I could set up a "macro" like 
protocol to interact with the authentication screens same as a user would. 
I don't really like this idea too much, but perhaps it is the best option.

Unless you think there is a way around making the app available to anyone 
with a Google account. If there is a workaround for that after publishing, 
then maybe that could work too.


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> Hello,
>
> I happened to bring this up with one more coworker and I have what I hope 
> may be some good news.
>
> If you mark your app as external (even though it is technically internal), 
> then the following restrictions would apply: 
>
>- You would be limited to 100 total refresh tokens. 
>- Your app would have a warning on the OAuth consent screen stating 
>that the app is not verified. 
>
> I believe that, in your case, neither of these restrictions should 
> actually pose a considerable problem, since you effectively only one one 
> refresh token that's generated at development time, and your internal users 
> won't actually need to see the OAuth consent screen at all.
>
> If that's the case, it sounds like marking the app as external is actually 
> a solution to your problem. You don't need to verify your app if you don't 
> ever plan on having external users log into the app, and you're okay with 
> that "not verified" warning.
>
> Upon researching more, the idea of "internal" only applies to Google 
> Workspace because there's no way on our side to verify whether a given user 
> is internal or external without the Google Workspace framework.
>
> Hopefully this workaround eases some of the load on your configuration.
>
>
> Regards,
> Mike, Google Ads API Team
>
> ref:_00D1U1174p._5004Q2ewsYl:ref
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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Hello,

I happened to bring this up with one more coworker and I have what I hope may 
be some good news.

If you mark your app as external (even though it is technically internal), then 
the following restrictions would apply:

You would be limited to 100 total refresh tokens.
Your app would have a warning on the OAuth consent screen stating that the app 
is not verified.

I believe that, in your case, neither of these restrictions should actually 
pose a considerable problem, since you effectively only one one refresh token 
that's generated at development time, and your internal users won't actually 
need to see the OAuth consent screen at all.

If that's the case, it sounds like marking the app as external is actually a 
solution to your problem. You don't need to verify your app if you don't ever 
plan on having external users log into the app, and you're okay with that "not 
verified" warning.

Upon researching more, the idea of "internal" only applies to Google Workspace 
because there's no way on our side to verify whether a given user is internal 
or external without the Google Workspace framework.

Hopefully this workaround eases some of the load on your configuration.

Regards,
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Hello,

I've heard back an answer, and unfortunately, it sounds like the system is 
working as intended, and your understanding is perfectly accurate. There is no 
bug here, and you are in an unfortunate situation that wasn't really accounted 
for in the system's design. I know this isn't what you wanted to hear, but at 
least we have a definitive answer now and you can proceed forward with one of 
your potential backup plans.

Please don't hesitate to reach back out if you have any API specific queries; 
I'm sure our team will be able to help out on that front much more 
satisfactorily.

Regards,
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

Thanks, I will keep a watch out until then!

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 6:10:26 AM UTC-8 adsapi wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Thank you for your detailed response. I'm sharing this information with 
> our OAuth team and working with them to try to figure out the best steps to 
> proceed. I will let you know when I have any new information to share, or 
> if I need more information from you.
>
>
> Regards,
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>
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Hello,

Thank you for your detailed response. I'm sharing this information with our 
OAuth team and working with them to try to figure out the best steps to 
proceed. I will let you know when I have any new information to share, or if I 
need more information from you.

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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

I just provided the client ID via private email. It's worth mentioning that 
this is probably not a bug--no error code, as I believe things are 
functioning as they were designed to. 
But the design does not seem to take my edge-case into consideration. What 
do users do in the event that they want to create an "internal app" but 
have already established a lot of dependencies using a setup built with 
@gmail emails? It would seem the only option might be to restart our 
presence on the Google platform using internal emails...though this would 
be incredibly difficult.

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 9:11:14 AM UTC-8 Chad Wood wrote:

> Screenshot located at the bottom of this message.
>
> A breakdown:
> We can not create an "Internal" app because we are not Google Workspace 
> users
> -> We can not become Google Workspace users because we are using @gmail 
> emails 
> ---> We can not convert to using internal emails because we are already 
> deeply intertwined with the current setup as a tech company
>
> So by what I understand, our only option is to use "External" for our app.
> But that does not change the fact that this app is internal--for 
> reporting. Therefore, we can not "Publish" the app.
> Since the "External" app is "Unpublished", our refresh tokens expire every 
> 7 days automatically.
>
> I will privately email client id
>
>
> [image: g3.png]
>
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 11:02:10 AM UTC-8 adsapi wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> The team is going to need some more information to completely debug. 
>> Since this support avenue is not available for external clients, I will 
>> have to serve in the middleman in this exchange. Keep in mind that I don't 
>> actually have much expertise in the OAuth console, so I will generally be 
>> providing your responses as is to the team that is helping me.
>>
>> Here is the information they've provided me so far and the information 
>> they'll need from you: 
>> Due to admin restrictions, Workspace users can be blocked from granting 
>> access to a test app. However, a gmail.com project owner should not be 
>> blocked from changing their app's publishing status due to Workspace 
>> specifically. I will definitely need more details to nail down what the 
>> issue is. If you could please ask the customer to provide clarification on 
>> what "denied access" means in relation to Google Workspace, that would be 
>> helpful. Additionally, are they trying to change their app's publishing 
>> status from the OAuth consent screen page in the cloud console? 
>> Screenshots, a copy of the error message(s), and the client ID would be 
>> very useful for debugging.
>>
>> Can you provide the requested information so I can pass it along and 
>> hopefully find some kind of resolution?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike, Google Ads API Team
>>
>>
>> ref:_00D1U1174p._5004Q2ewsYl:ref
>>
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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Hello,

The team is going to need some more information to completely debug. Since this 
support avenue is not available for external clients, I will have to serve in 
the middleman in this exchange. Keep in mind that I don't actually have much 
expertise in the OAuth console, so I will generally be providing your responses 
as is to the team that is helping me.

Here is the information they've provided me so far and the information they'll 
need from you:
Due to admin restrictions, Workspace users can be blocked from granting access 
to a test app. However, a gmail.com project owner should not be blocked from 
changing their app's publishing status due to Workspace specifically. I will 
definitely need more details to nail down what the issue is. If you could 
please ask the customer to provide clarification on what "denied access" means 
in relation to Google Workspace, that would be helpful. Additionally, are they 
trying to change their app's publishing status from the OAuth consent screen 
page in the cloud console? Screenshots, a copy of the error message(s), and the 
client ID would be very useful for debugging.

Can you provide the requested information so I can pass it along and hopefully 
find some kind of resolution?

Regards,
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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Thanks! I'll stay on the lookout.

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 12:17:21 AM UTC-8 adsapi wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Thank you for confirming. I'm reaching out to some more extended internal 
> contacts to try to find a solution here, and will let you know if I learn 
> anything, or if I need any further information from you.
>
>
> Regards,
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

Thanks, and you are correct. What you describe is the issue exactly, please 
just read over my message stamped for Oct 17, 2022, 3:12:03 PM.

We know why this is happening. The need to get a new refresh token every 7 
days IS because the app is in 'testing' and not in 'production'.
See, we can not make a production app because we are denied access to 
Google Workspace.
Reason for the denial to Workspace is because we have our account set up as 
an @gmail account, which is blocked from Google Workspace.
We can't just start over, as our @gmail account is already deeply 
intertwined with the Google Ads service, GA4, Firebase, etc. 

My gripe on this is that the Google Platforms allowed my colleagues to even 
establish a presence on the services with an @gmail in the first place. 
They didn't know better, and now it seems like we're just out of luck here.

I'm wondering if it would be very difficult to automate the Refresh Token 
retrieval process--as an alternative fix. What would you think? Is this a 
good idea?


On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 6:05:55 AM UTC-7 adsapi wrote:

> Hello,
>
> All I've been able to discover so far is that the requirement for you to 
> get a new refresh token every week may be associated with you being in some 
> sort of "testing" mode, rather than a "production" mode. As I'm not 
> terribly familiar with that interface, I wouldn't know where to look to 
> change that setting, but it might be something you could look into.
>
> I will try to get more specific suggestions if I can find someone who 
> knows more about OAuth internally. I apologize for the slow progress here, 
> as it's outside my area of expertise.
>
>
> Regards,
> Mike, Google Ads API Team
>
> ref:_00D1U1174p._5004Q2ewsYl:ref
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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Hello,

All I've been able to discover so far is that the requirement for you to get a 
new refresh token every week may be associated with you being in some sort of 
"testing" mode, rather than a "production" mode. As I'm not terribly familiar 
with that interface, I wouldn't know where to look to change that setting, but 
it might be something you could look into.

I will try to get more specific suggestions if I can find someone who knows 
more about OAuth internally. I apologize for the slow progress here, as it's 
outside my area of expertise.

Regards,
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

+ checking for update

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:49:41 AM UTC-7 Chad Wood wrote:

> Thanks Mike. I'll keep an eye on this thread until then.
>
> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 7:04:38 AM UTC-7 adsapi wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> This case has been escalated to me.
>>
>> I'm looking into the best way to proceed here. My team generally doesn't 
>> have full expertise on the OAuth sign up flow specifically; we focus in the 
>> steps after that, once you're using the API.
>>
>> But I am trying to find the right person to get in touch with who would 
>> understand your situation better so I can try to find the best way for you 
>> to proceed here. I will let you know once I have learned more and have some 
>> recommendation for what else you can try.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike, Google Ads API Team
>>
>> ref:_00D1U1174p._5004Q2ewsYl:ref
>>
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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Thanks Mike. I'll keep an eye on this thread until then.

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 7:04:38 AM UTC-7 adsapi wrote:

> Hello,
>
> This case has been escalated to me.
>
> I'm looking into the best way to proceed here. My team generally doesn't 
> have full expertise on the OAuth sign up flow specifically; we focus in the 
> steps after that, once you're using the API.
>
> But I am trying to find the right person to get in touch with who would 
> understand your situation better so I can try to find the best way for you 
> to proceed here. I will let you know once I have learned more and have some 
> recommendation for what else you can try.
>
> Regards,
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>
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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Hello,

This case has been escalated to me.

I'm looking into the best way to proceed here. My team generally doesn't have 
full expertise on the OAuth sign up flow specifically; we focus in the steps 
after that, once you're using the API.

But I am trying to find the right person to get in touch with who would 
understand your situation better so I can try to find the best way for you to 
proceed here. I will let you know once I have learned more and have some 
recommendation for what else you can try.

Regards,
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

Thanks Darwin,

In the meantime, I had a colleague propose just publishing the app and 
making the link to access it super obscure. The idea is that, 
theoretically, nobody would ever find it and we could still have our 
business needs met. This obviously does not utilize your technology in the 
way that it was meant to be utilized, and therefore I worry about what kind 
of security implications could arise as a result.

I've informed them that we are waiting on a response from your team 
members. For now though, can you help me better understand why this 
proposal of"publishing" our internal app *should* or *should not* be done? 
I'm curious what you can tell me about this idea.

Thanks,



On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 12:29:14 AM UTC-7 adsapi wrote:

> Hi Chad,
>
>
> Thank you for getting back to us. I hope you are doing well today.
>
>
> Moving forward to your concern about the refresh token automatically 
> expires after 7 days and cannot "publish"/"verify". Allow me to raise this 
> issue to my team for further checking. Rest assured that we will provide 
> updates when become available.
>  
>
> Regards,
> [image: Google Logo] 
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>   
>
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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Hi Chad,


Thank you for getting back to us. I hope you are doing well today.


Moving forward to your concern about the refresh token automatically expires 
after 7 days and cannot "publish"/"verify". Allow me to raise this issue to my 
team for further checking. Rest assured that we will provide updates when 
become available.

Regards,

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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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Well, there is another limitation I am now running into and I don't think 
this was considered in our conversation.

It's been awhile, so here's the recap/update:

   - My company used a gmail to create our accounts for google 
   applications, like Google Ads. We've also verified ownership of our domains 
   with this gmail. Lets call it mycomp...@gmail.com
   - My company has made itself dependent on the accounts created via 
   mycomp...@gmail.com; now utilized for Google Ads, GA4, Firebase, and 
   several other services 
   - Because my company decided to set everything up on 
   mycomp...@gmail.com, we are not eligible for using a Google Workspace. This 
   is because Google Workspace requires a private email domain to sign-up.
   - *I need to access Google Ads programmatically for automatic daily data 
   retrieval and custom reporting.*
   - Google Ads doesn't allow service accounts to be added to it, thereby 
   requiring impersonation [of a human user] to utilize service accounts in 
   Google Ads
   - Because we can't utilize Google Workspace, we are thus required to 
   utilize OAUTH2 instead of service accounts to authorize my API calls to 
   Google Ads
   
Now, to set up OAUTH, we need to navigate here 
 and set up the 
consent screen for the "initial" authorization. After that, we can retrieve 
a refresh token and be on our way toward automation. Though, here's the 
caveat; *creating an "internal" app also requires Google Workspace.*

[image: screen.png]
So, this means we must create the app as "external" even though it is 
technically for internal use only. It's custom reporting.

>From what I understand, and according to the docs 

;

*"A Google Cloud Platform project with an OAuth consent screen configured 
for an external user type and a publishing status of "Testing" is issued a 
refresh token expiring in 7 days" *

I am currently dealing with this problem. The refresh token automatically 
expires after 7 days. I can not "publish"/"verify" the app to get would 
this, as that would make the app publicly available. This would be a 
security concern.

This makes me feel as though we are back at square one. Is my only option 
to migrate all existing applications to a new google account, all over the 
email used to create the account?
This would likely be very messy, and I'd hope there's a solution to avoid 
needing this. 

I was able to create a Google Workspace with an internal email, but it 
requires that I verify the domain to "unlock" the features I need. If I 
understand correctly though, verifying the domain would be a takeover, 
right? Thereby likely breaking applications on the mycomp...@gmail.com 
account. This is no good as well.

What can I do here?
On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 10:09:01 PM UTC-7 adsapi wrote:

> Hi Chad,
>
> Hope you are doing fine. This is Carmela from the Google Ads API team as 
> well. Thank you for getting back to us.
>
> With regards to your concerns, you may see the below items: 
>
>- "*They were able to establish all of these environments and build 
>atop of them without being required comply with the workspace requirement 
>that emails are internal. They're all using myco...@gmail.com with no 
>'governing body,' so to speak.*" - As for this, there is a chance that 
>you do,'t need to use the Google workspace and that is the Oauth flows 
>
> 
>  instead 
>of service accounts unless you need a domain-specific feature (for 
> example, 
>impersonation), then Google workspace is needed. OAuth2 desktop app and 
> web 
>app flows do require an initial user interaction for granting access to 
> the 
>account, but are much simpler to set up. 
>- "*So now we have all of these different tools under the email 
>address myco...@gmail.com.* *If I want to link all of these under a 
>governing body, like a workspace, and utilize the benefits of a workspace 
>-- how can we do that without rebuilding everything over this email issue?*
> *I can't add myco...@gmail.com to the newly created workspace because 
>its not an @**mycompany.com* * email.*" - 
>Could you confirm if what you mean by this is you want Firebase, Google 
>Analytics, and Google Tag Manager account to use a workspace as well? If 
>yes, then kindly note that our team can't comment on this as we can only 
>provide the insights in the Google Ads API perspective. That said, I would 
>suggest reaching out to their support team instead as they are the ones 
> who 
>can confirm if these accounts can also utilize a workspace. 
>- "*-- Are you perhaps suggesting that I make some kind of manager 
>account, say goo...@mycompany.com and link m

Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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Hi Chad,

Hope you are doing fine. This is Carmela from the Google Ads API team as well. 
Thank you for getting back to us.

With regards to your concerns, you may see the below items:

"They were able to establish all of these environments and build atop of them 
without being required comply with the workspace requirement that emails are 
internal. They're all using mycomp...@gmail.com with no 'governing body,' so to 
speak." - As for this, there is a chance that you do,'t need to use the Google 
workspace and that is the Oauth flows instead of service accounts unless you 
need a domain-specific feature (for example, impersonation), then Google 
workspace is needed. OAuth2 desktop app and web app flows do require an initial 
user interaction for granting access to the account, but are much simpler to 
set up.
"So now we have all of these different tools under the email address 
mycomp...@gmail.com. If I want to link all of these under a governing body, 
like a workspace, and utilize the benefits of a workspace -- how can we do that 
without rebuilding everything over this email issue? I can't add 
mycomp...@gmail.com to the newly created workspace because its not an 
@mycompany.com email." - Could you confirm if what you mean by this is you want 
Firebase, Google Analytics, and Google Tag Manager account to use a workspace 
as well? If yes, then kindly note that our team can't comment on this as we can 
only provide the insights in the Google Ads API perspective. That said, I would 
suggest reaching out to their support team instead as they are the ones who can 
confirm if these accounts can also utilize a workspace.
"-- Are you perhaps suggesting that I make some kind of manager account, say 
goo...@mycompany.com and link mycomp...@gmail.com to it? That's exactly what I 
tried doing with the workspace, but it would not allow this." - Since this is 
more related to the workspace, then I would suggest reaching out to the Google 
Workspace Support team via this link as they are better equipped to provide 
guidance to you. There is an icon on the lower-left part of the UI where you 
will redirected saying "Hi there 👋 What brings you to Google Workspace today?".


Regards,

Carmela
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

Thanks Peter, but I'm not sure I'm following.

I would like to address how the companies Google Ads, Firebase, Google 
Analytics, and Google Tag Manager account were all made with an email like 
mycomp...@gmail.com
They were able to establish all of these environments and build atop of 
them without being required comply with the workspace requirement that 
emails are internal. They're all using mycomp...@gmail.com with no 
'governing body,' so to speak.

So now we have all of these different tools under the email address 
mycomp...@gmail.com.

If I want to link all of these under a governing body, like a workspace, 
and utilize the benefits of a workspace -- how can we do that without 
rebuilding everything over this email issue? 
I can't add mycomp...@gmail.com to the newly created workspace because its 
not an @mycompany.com email.

-- Are you perhaps suggesting that I make some kind of manager account, say 
goo...@mycompany.com and link mycomp...@gmail.com to it? That's exactly 
what I tried doing with the workspace, but it would not allow this.

On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 11:25:08 AM UTC-7 adsapi wrote:

> Hi Chad,
>
> Thank you for your reply.
>
> Yes, the other authentication flows should be sufficient for your app and 
> as long as the conditions mentioned in this guide 
>  are 
> avoided. However, should it ever expire, you can simply follow this 
> configuration 
>  
> guide to recreate the refresh token.
>
> Moving forward to your remaining clarification, you may refer to my 
> response below :
>
>
> *So what are my options for linking all of this into a workspace? Do we 
> need to restart from scratch? That would be quite troublesome." I'd still 
> like to know the solution to this, as we may like to use the workspace for 
> other reasons in the future. Are we stuck with the only option of 
> restarting?*
>
> If the @gmail account you are referring to is an email address or user 
> that is associated or has access 
> 
>  
> to your MCC/manager account, you can setup your OAuth2 flow by first 
> creating the client ID and client secret 
> ,
>  
> while logged in as that @gmail account. You can then follow this 
> configuration 
>  
> guide in order to supply the credentials and refresh token into a file that 
> your application can read when performing the authentication of your API 
> requests.
>
> Having these credentials made by a user or email address associated to 
> your MCC/manager account should then allow you to perform API requests to 
> any of the sub accounts under your MCC/manager account's hierarchy.
>
> On the other hand, if the credentials are made by a user or email address 
> that only has access to a single sub-account, those credentials can then 
> only be used to perform actions on that sub account.
>
> Best regards,
>
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>   
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

Alright, I found this information on Stack:

You should write your code to anticipate the possibility that a granted 
token might no longer work. A token might stop working for one of these 
reasons: The user has revoked access. The token has not been used for six 
months. The user account has exceeded a certain number of token requests. 
There is currently a 25-token limit per Google user account. If a user 
account has 25 valid tokens, the next authentication request succeeds, but 
quietly invalidates the oldest outstanding token without any user-visible 
warning. (from developers.google.com/accounts/docs/OAuth2)  

I didn't realize that once I authenticate for the first time, it'll 
practically keep me authenticated for as long as I need (within the above 
confinements). 
So, I was wrong... I guess I do not need impersonation. OAuth2 should work 
just fine.

I just have one remaining questions:


   1. This question, from two comments up: "So what are my options for 
   linking all of this into a workspace? Do we need to restart from scratch? 
   That would be quite troublesome." I'd still like to know the solution to 
   this, as we may like to use the workspace for other reasons in the future. 
   Are we stuck with the only option of restarting?

On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 8:52:27 AM UTC-7 Chad Wood wrote:

> Based on our conversion, it appears that I do have the domain specific 
> requirement of impersonation.
>
> Are we out of luck?
>
> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 8:37:54 AM UTC-7 Chad Wood wrote:
>
>> Thanks Adsapi,
>>
>> I guess I am confused then. My company already established a Google Ads 
>> account using an @gmail email account. They weren't required to comply with 
>> workspace requirements when they created the Ads account. Same goes for 
>> GTM, GA4, and Firebase. Our presence on these platforms is already 
>> established -- using @gmail, mind you.
>>
>> So what are my options for linking all of this into a workspace? Do we 
>> need to restart from scratch? That would be quite troublesome.
>>
>> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 4:35:26 AM UTC-7 adsapi wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chad,
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for getting back to us. I work with Peter and allow me to 
>>> assist you here. I hope you are doing well today.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please see my response to your query below.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.) Alright, it's becoming more clear now.
>>>
>>> Correct me if I am wrong, but here's what I think is going on:
>>>
>>>* I created the service account for API use to Google Analytics 4, 
>>> and I just added the service account to the authorized users as view-only.
>>>
>>>* Google Ads REQUIRES that invitees accept the invitation via email. 
>>> This is impossible for a service account, therefore my service account can 
>>> not directly access Google Ads
>>>
>>>* To bypass this, I must impersonate my personal email with the 
>>> service account. Impersonation requires the service account to have Domain 
>>> Wide Delegation
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Okay, fair enough. I checked and we don't have the admin.google.com account 
>>> so that I can set up Domain Wide Delegation.
>>>
>>> Unless I am mistaken somehow. But I don't see any indication that we 
>>> have such an account.
>>>
>>> I take it that I will need to create this admin.google.com account with 
>>> an internal email, say goo...@mycompany.com.
>>>
>>> But then I assume I must manually add the *main email** and my *personal 
>>> email** to this new admin.google.com account, as workforce members or 
>>> something?
>>>
>>> ...and after that, I should be able to see the Service Account I created 
>>> in there? Then I can just give it Domain Wide Delegation?
>>>
>>> Is this all accurate?
>>>  
>>>
>>>- For this, Yes, I confirm that your understanding is correct. 
>>>However, you need to follow these Prerequisites 
>>>
>>> 
>>>. 
>>>
>>>
>>> 2.)adding to my prior message:
>>>
>>>
>>> Can I perform this task (Domain Wide Delegation) with the Essentials 
>>> Starter Edition of Workspace?
>>>
>>>
>>> I just signed up for that version. But now I'm at a roadblock. The *main 
>>> email**, associated with our Ads account, Firebase, GA4, etc... is an 
>>> @gmail domain email. However, the workspace says I can only add users via 
>>> internal emails.
>>>
>>>
>>> How do I now associate the existing accounts (all @gmail) with this 
>>> workspace so that I can utilize the Service Account to access Google Ads?
>>>  
>>>
>>>-  I confirm that this is true that you can't use @gmail domain 
>>>email to use service account authentication. Having a workspace account 
>>> is 
>>>the requirement. 
>>>
>>>
>>> 3.) Well, I just got it working via OAUTH2. Like I said though, it won't 
>>> make sense for us to use this method long-term. The program will run 
>>> automatically every day, and while it may not take much effort to perform 
>>> this one little manual task every

Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

Based on our conversion, it appears that I do have the domain specific 
requirement of impersonation.

Are we out of luck?

On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 8:37:54 AM UTC-7 Chad Wood wrote:

> Thanks Adsapi,
>
> I guess I am confused then. My company already established a Google Ads 
> account using an @gmail email account. They weren't required to comply with 
> workspace requirements when they created the Ads account. Same goes for 
> GTM, GA4, and Firebase. Our presence on these platforms is already 
> established -- using @gmail, mind you.
>
> So what are my options for linking all of this into a workspace? Do we 
> need to restart from scratch? That would be quite troublesome.
>
> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 4:35:26 AM UTC-7 adsapi wrote:
>
>> Hi Chad,
>>
>>
>> Thank you for getting back to us. I work with Peter and allow me to 
>> assist you here. I hope you are doing well today.
>>
>>
>> Please see my response to your query below.
>>
>>
>> 1.) Alright, it's becoming more clear now.
>>
>> Correct me if I am wrong, but here's what I think is going on:
>>
>>* I created the service account for API use to Google Analytics 4, and 
>> I just added the service account to the authorized users as view-only.
>>
>>* Google Ads REQUIRES that invitees accept the invitation via email. 
>> This is impossible for a service account, therefore my service account can 
>> not directly access Google Ads
>>
>>* To bypass this, I must impersonate my personal email with the 
>> service account. Impersonation requires the service account to have Domain 
>> Wide Delegation
>>
>>  
>>
>> Okay, fair enough. I checked and we don't have the admin.google.com account 
>> so that I can set up Domain Wide Delegation.
>>
>> Unless I am mistaken somehow. But I don't see any indication that we have 
>> such an account.
>>
>> I take it that I will need to create this admin.google.com account with 
>> an internal email, say goo...@mycompany.com.
>>
>> But then I assume I must manually add the *main email** and my *personal 
>> email** to this new admin.google.com account, as workforce members or 
>> something?
>>
>> ...and after that, I should be able to see the Service Account I created 
>> in there? Then I can just give it Domain Wide Delegation?
>>
>> Is this all accurate?
>>  
>>
>>- For this, Yes, I confirm that your understanding is correct. 
>>However, you need to follow these Prerequisites 
>>
>> 
>>. 
>>
>>
>> 2.)adding to my prior message:
>>
>>
>> Can I perform this task (Domain Wide Delegation) with the Essentials 
>> Starter Edition of Workspace?
>>
>>
>> I just signed up for that version. But now I'm at a roadblock. The *main 
>> email**, associated with our Ads account, Firebase, GA4, etc... is an 
>> @gmail domain email. However, the workspace says I can only add users via 
>> internal emails.
>>
>>
>> How do I now associate the existing accounts (all @gmail) with this 
>> workspace so that I can utilize the Service Account to access Google Ads?
>>  
>>
>>-  I confirm that this is true that you can't use @gmail domain email 
>>to use service account authentication. Having a workspace account is the 
>>requirement. 
>>
>>
>> 3.) Well, I just got it working via OAUTH2. Like I said though, it won't 
>> make sense for us to use this method long-term. The program will run 
>> automatically every day, and while it may not take much effort to perform 
>> this one little manual task every day -- Lots of little manual tasks add up 
>> into intense workloads, eventually.
>>  
>>
>> I'll use OAUTH2 for debugging, testing, building, etc for the time being. 
>> Can someone help me figure out the issue above though? I still don't 
>> understand how to use this new workspace if I can't add our Ads account 
>> because it was made with an @gmail email.
>>  
>>
>>- This is recommended to use authentication. We strongly recommend 
>>using OAuth2 desktop app or web app flow 
>>
>> 
>>  instead 
>>of service accounts *unless you need a domain-specific feature* (for 
>>example, impersonation). OAuth2 desktop app and web app flows do require 
>> an 
>>initial user interaction for granting access to the account, but are much 
>>simpler to set up. For the OAuth2 desktop app flow 
>>
>> ,
>>  
>>you can persist a refresh token (which never expires) to obtain a new 
>>access token whenever necessary. When using one of our client 
>>libraries 
>>, 
>>you can authorize your app by filling out a configuration file. 
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> [image: Google Logo] 
>> Darwin 
>> Google Ads API Team 
>>   
>>
>> ref:_00D1U1174p._5004Q2ewsY

Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

Thanks Adsapi,

I guess I am confused then. My company already established a Google Ads 
account using an @gmail email account. They weren't required to comply with 
workspace requirements when they created the Ads account. Same goes for 
GTM, GA4, and Firebase. Our presence on these platforms is already 
established -- using @gmail, mind you.

So what are my options for linking all of this into a workspace? Do we need 
to restart from scratch? That would be quite troublesome.

On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 4:35:26 AM UTC-7 adsapi wrote:

> Hi Chad,
>
>
> Thank you for getting back to us. I work with Peter and allow me to assist 
> you here. I hope you are doing well today.
>
>
> Please see my response to your query below.
>
>
> 1.) Alright, it's becoming more clear now.
>
> Correct me if I am wrong, but here's what I think is going on:
>
>* I created the service account for API use to Google Analytics 4, and 
> I just added the service account to the authorized users as view-only.
>
>* Google Ads REQUIRES that invitees accept the invitation via email. 
> This is impossible for a service account, therefore my service account can 
> not directly access Google Ads
>
>* To bypass this, I must impersonate my personal email with the service 
> account. Impersonation requires the service account to have Domain Wide 
> Delegation
>
>  
>
> Okay, fair enough. I checked and we don't have the admin.google.com account 
> so that I can set up Domain Wide Delegation.
>
> Unless I am mistaken somehow. But I don't see any indication that we have 
> such an account.
>
> I take it that I will need to create this admin.google.com account with 
> an internal email, say goo...@mycompany.com.
>
> But then I assume I must manually add the *main email** and my *personal 
> email** to this new admin.google.com account, as workforce members or 
> something?
>
> ...and after that, I should be able to see the Service Account I created 
> in there? Then I can just give it Domain Wide Delegation?
>
> Is this all accurate?
>  
>
>- For this, Yes, I confirm that your understanding is correct. 
>However, you need to follow these Prerequisites 
>
> 
>. 
>
>
> 2.)adding to my prior message:
>
>
> Can I perform this task (Domain Wide Delegation) with the Essentials 
> Starter Edition of Workspace?
>
>
> I just signed up for that version. But now I'm at a roadblock. The *main 
> email**, associated with our Ads account, Firebase, GA4, etc... is an 
> @gmail domain email. However, the workspace says I can only add users via 
> internal emails.
>
>
> How do I now associate the existing accounts (all @gmail) with this 
> workspace so that I can utilize the Service Account to access Google Ads?
>  
>
>-  I confirm that this is true that you can't use @gmail domain email 
>to use service account authentication. Having a workspace account is the 
>requirement. 
>
>
> 3.) Well, I just got it working via OAUTH2. Like I said though, it won't 
> make sense for us to use this method long-term. The program will run 
> automatically every day, and while it may not take much effort to perform 
> this one little manual task every day -- Lots of little manual tasks add up 
> into intense workloads, eventually.
>  
>
> I'll use OAUTH2 for debugging, testing, building, etc for the time being. 
> Can someone help me figure out the issue above though? I still don't 
> understand how to use this new workspace if I can't add our Ads account 
> because it was made with an @gmail email.
>  
>
>- This is recommended to use authentication. We strongly recommend 
>using OAuth2 desktop app or web app flow 
>
> 
>  instead 
>of service accounts *unless you need a domain-specific feature* (for 
>example, impersonation). OAuth2 desktop app and web app flows do require 
> an 
>initial user interaction for granting access to the account, but are much 
>simpler to set up. For the OAuth2 desktop app flow 
>
> ,
>  
>you can persist a refresh token (which never expires) to obtain a new 
>access token whenever necessary. When using one of our client libraries 
>, 
>you can authorize your app by filling out a configuration file. 
>
>
> Regards,
> [image: Google Logo] 
> Darwin 
> Google Ads API Team 
>   
>
> ref:_00D1U1174p._5004Q2ewsYl:ref
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

['Google Ads API Forum Advisor' via Google Ads API and AdWords API Forum]

Hi Chad,


Thank you for getting back to us. I work with Peter and allow me to assist you 
here. I hope you are doing well today.


Please see my response to your query below.


1.) Alright, it's becoming more clear now.

Correct me if I am wrong, but here's what I think is going on:

* I created the service account for API use to Google Analytics 4, and I just 
added the service account to the authorized users as view-only.

* Google Ads REQUIRES that invitees accept the invitation via email. This is 
impossible for a service account, therefore my service account can not directly 
access Google Ads

* To bypass this, I must impersonate my personal email with the service 
account. Impersonation requires the service account to have Domain Wide 
Delegation


Okay, fair enough. I checked and we don't have the admin.google.com account so 
that I can set up Domain Wide Delegation.

Unless I am mistaken somehow. But I don't see any indication that we have such 
an account.

I take it that I will need to create this admin.google.com account with an 
internal email, say goo...@mycompany.com.

But then I assume I must manually add the main email* and my personal email* to 
this new admin.google.com account, as workforce members or something?

...and after that, I should be able to see the Service Account I created in 
there? Then I can just give it Domain Wide Delegation?

Is this all accurate?

For this, Yes, I confirm that your understanding is correct. However, you need 
to follow these Prerequisites.


2.)adding to my prior message:


Can I perform this task (Domain Wide Delegation) with the Essentials Starter 
Edition of Workspace?


I just signed up for that version. But now I'm at a roadblock. The main email*, 
associated with our Ads account, Firebase, GA4, etc... is an @gmail domain 
email. However, the workspace says I can only add users via internal emails.


How do I now associate the existing accounts (all @gmail) with this workspace 
so that I can utilize the Service Account to access Google Ads?

I confirm that this is true that you can't use @gmail domain email to use 
service account authentication. Having a workspace account is the requirement.


3.) Well, I just got it working via OAUTH2. Like I said though, it won't make 
sense for us to use this method long-term. The program will run automatically 
every day, and while it may not take much effort to perform this one little 
manual task every day -- Lots of little manual tasks add up into intense 
workloads, eventually.

I'll use OAUTH2 for debugging, testing, building, etc for the time being. Can 
someone help me figure out the issue above though? I still don't understand how 
to use this new workspace if I can't add our Ads account because it was made 
with an @gmail email.

This is recommended to use authentication. We strongly recommend using OAuth2 
desktop app or web app flow instead of service accounts unless you need a 
domain-specific feature (for example, impersonation). OAuth2 desktop app and 
web app flows do require an initial user interaction for granting access to the 
account, but are much simpler to set up. For the OAuth2 desktop app flow, you 
can persist a refresh token (which never expires) to obtain a new access token 
whenever necessary. When using one of our client libraries, you can authorize 
your app by filling out a configuration file.


Regards,

Darwin
Google Ads API Team
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

Well, I just got it working via OAUTH2. Like I said though, it won't make 
sense for us to use this method long-term. The program will run 
automatically every day, and while it may not take much effort to perform 
this one little manual task every day -- Lots of little manual tasks add up 
into intense workloads, eventually.

I'll use OAUTH2 for debugging, testing, building, etc for the time being. 
Can someone help me figure out the issue above though? I still don't 
understand how to use this new workspace if I can't add our Ads account 
because it was made with an @gmail email.

On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 11:51:09 AM UTC-7 Chad Wood wrote:

> adding to my prior message: 
>
> Can I perform this task (Domain Wide Delegation) with the Essentials 
> Starter Edition of Workspace?
>
> I just signed up for that version. But now I'm at a roadblock. The *main 
> email**, associated with our Ads account, Firebase, GA4, etc... is an 
> @gmail domain email. However, the workspace says I can only add users via 
> internal emails.
>
> How do I now associate the existing accounts (all @gmail) with this 
> workspace so that I can utilize the Service Account to access Google Ads?
>
> On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 10:19:50 AM UTC-7 Chad Wood wrote:
>
>> Alright, it's becoming more clear now. 
>>
>> Correct me if I am wrong, but here's what I think is going on:
>> * I created the service account for API use to Google Analytics 4, 
>> and I just added the service account to the authorized users as view-only.
>> * Google Ads REQUIRES that invitees accept the invitation via email. 
>> This is impossible for a service account, therefore my service account can 
>> not directly access Google Ads
>> * To bypass this, I must impersonate my personal email with the 
>> service account. Impersonation requires the service account to have Domain 
>> Wide Delegation
>>
>> Okay, fair enough. I checked and we don't have the admin.google.com 
>> account so that I can set up Domain Wide Delegation. 
>> Unless I am mistaken somehow. But I don't see any indication that we have 
>> such an account.
>>
>> I take it that I will need to create this admin.google.com account with 
>> an internal email, say goo...@mycompany.com.
>>
>> But then I assume I must manually add the *main email** and my *personal 
>> email** to this new admin.google.com account, as workforce members or 
>> something?
>> ...and after that, I should be able to see the Service Account I created 
>> in there? Then I can just give it Domain Wide Delegation?
>>
>> Is this all accurate?
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 1:37:33 PM UTC-7 adsapi wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chad,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your response and for the additional details.
>>>
>>> Before I raise this to the rest of our support team, could you also 
>>> clarify first the below items : 
>>>
>>>- As per the prerequisites 
>>>
>>> 
>>>  
>>>section, were you also able to setup a Google Workspace domain 
>>>? 
>>>- In the first *Key point* section of the guide 
>>>
>>> , 
>>>it then says that "*A service account can only impersonate users 
>>>(email addresses) in the same Google Workspace 
>>>*" 
>>>   - Was your personal email then added as a user of the said Google 
>>>   Workspace? 
>>>- Lastly, could you confirm if you have also completed the steps 2 
>>>and 3 of this section 
>>>
>>> 
>>>  
>>>(see domain wide delegation access guide 
>>>)? 
>>>
>>> In the event that all these other items have been completed, let us know 
>>> so our team can then raise this along with the requestId details you 
>>> earlier provided.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> [image: Google Logo] 
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>>>   
>>>
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

adding to my prior message: 

Can I perform this task (Domain Wide Delegation) with the Essentials 
Starter Edition of Workspace?

I just signed up for that version. But now I'm at a roadblock. The *main 
email**, associated with our Ads account, Firebase, GA4, etc... is an 
@gmail domain email. However, the workspace says I can only add users via 
internal emails.

How do I now associate the existing accounts (all @gmail) with this 
workspace so that I can utilize the Service Account to access Google Ads?

On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 10:19:50 AM UTC-7 Chad Wood wrote:

> Alright, it's becoming more clear now. 
>
> Correct me if I am wrong, but here's what I think is going on:
> * I created the service account for API use to Google Analytics 4, and 
> I just added the service account to the authorized users as view-only.
> * Google Ads REQUIRES that invitees accept the invitation via email. 
> This is impossible for a service account, therefore my service account can 
> not directly access Google Ads
> * To bypass this, I must impersonate my personal email with the 
> service account. Impersonation requires the service account to have Domain 
> Wide Delegation
>
> Okay, fair enough. I checked and we don't have the admin.google.com 
> account so that I can set up Domain Wide Delegation. 
> Unless I am mistaken somehow. But I don't see any indication that we have 
> such an account.
>
> I take it that I will need to create this admin.google.com account with 
> an internal email, say goo...@mycompany.com.
>
> But then I assume I must manually add the *main email** and my *personal 
> email** to this new admin.google.com account, as workforce members or 
> something?
> ...and after that, I should be able to see the Service Account I created 
> in there? Then I can just give it Domain Wide Delegation?
>
> Is this all accurate?
>
> On Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 1:37:33 PM UTC-7 adsapi wrote:
>
>> Hi Chad,
>>
>> Thank you for your response and for the additional details.
>>
>> Before I raise this to the rest of our support team, could you also 
>> clarify first the below items : 
>>
>>- As per the prerequisites 
>>
>> 
>>  
>>section, were you also able to setup a Google Workspace domain 
>>? 
>>- In the first *Key point* section of the guide 
>>
>> , 
>>it then says that "*A service account can only impersonate users 
>>(email addresses) in the same Google Workspace 
>>*" 
>>   - Was your personal email then added as a user of the said Google 
>>   Workspace? 
>>- Lastly, could you confirm if you have also completed the steps 2 
>>and 3 of this section 
>>
>> 
>>  
>>(see domain wide delegation access guide 
>>)? 
>>
>> In the event that all these other items have been completed, let us know 
>> so our team can then raise this along with the requestId details you 
>> earlier provided.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> [image: Google Logo] 
>> Peter Laurence 
>> Google Ads API Team 
>>   
>>
>> ref:_00D1U1174p._5004Q2ewsYl:ref
>>
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

Alright, it's becoming more clear now. 

Correct me if I am wrong, but here's what I think is going on:
* I created the service account for API use to Google Analytics 4, and 
I just added the service account to the authorized users as view-only.
* Google Ads REQUIRES that invitees accept the invitation via email. 
This is impossible for a service account, therefore my service account can 
not directly access Google Ads
* To bypass this, I must impersonate my personal email with the service 
account. Impersonation requires the service account to have Domain Wide 
Delegation

Okay, fair enough. I checked and we don't have the admin.google.com account 
so that I can set up Domain Wide Delegation. 
Unless I am mistaken somehow. But I don't see any indication that we have 
such an account.

I take it that I will need to create this admin.google.com account with an 
internal email, say goo...@mycompany.com.

But then I assume I must manually add the *main email** and my *personal 
email** to this new admin.google.com account, as workforce members or 
something?
...and after that, I should be able to see the Service Account I created in 
there? Then I can just give it Domain Wide Delegation?

Is this all accurate?

On Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 1:37:33 PM UTC-7 adsapi wrote:

> Hi Chad,
>
> Thank you for your response and for the additional details.
>
> Before I raise this to the rest of our support team, could you also 
> clarify first the below items : 
>
>- As per the prerequisites 
>
> 
>  
>section, were you also able to setup a Google Workspace domain 
>? 
>- In the first *Key point* section of the guide 
>
> , 
>it then says that "*A service account can only impersonate users 
>(email addresses) in the same Google Workspace 
>*" 
>   - Was your personal email then added as a user of the said Google 
>   Workspace? 
>- Lastly, could you confirm if you have also completed the steps 2 and 
>3 of this section 
>
> 
>  
>(see domain wide delegation access guide 
>)? 
>
> In the event that all these other items have been completed, let us know 
> so our team can then raise this along with the requestId details you 
> earlier provided.
>
> Best regards,
>
> [image: Google Logo] 
> Peter Laurence 
> Google Ads API Team 
>   
>
> ref:_00D1U1174p._5004Q2ewsYl:ref
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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Hi Chad,

Thank you for your response and for the additional details.

Before I raise this to the rest of our support team, could you also clarify 
first the below items :

As per the prerequisites section, were you also able to setup a Google 
Workspace domain?
In the first Key point section of the guide, it then says that "A service 
account can only impersonate users (email addresses) in the same Google 
Workspace"

Was your personal email then added as a user of the said Google Workspace?

Lastly, could you confirm if you have also completed the steps 2 and 3 of this 
section (see domain wide delegation access guide)?

In the event that all these other items have been completed, let us know so our 
team can then raise this along with the requestId details you earlier provided.

Best regards,

Peter Laurence
Google Ads API Team
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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Hi Chad,

Thank you for the reply. I am also a member of the Google Ads API team and let 
me provide support to your concern.

To answer the below question first, yes, I can confirm that your understanding 
is correct. But the human interactions that are referring to the other 
authentication flow are allowing the OAuth2 credentials to access your Google 
Ads account in the browser and setting manually the refresh token to your 
client library, not entering password.
"Sadly, the system we're building will need to operate without human 
interaction. Otherwise, I'd love to take the easier option. I understand that 
any option for connecting to Google Ads via API (beside service accounts) would 
require a user to interact with the application, even if just to enter a 
password -- that is correct, yes?"

Also, since this is the account that x...@gmail.com that you login while 
configuring the service account, then to answer your question, this should be 
added to the test Google account that you want to access via Google Ads API.

Let me know if you have further questions.

Regards,

Ernie John
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

Sadly, the system we're building will need to operate without human 
interaction. Otherwise, I'd love to take the easier option. I understand 
that any option for connecting to Google Ads via API (beside service 
accounts) would require a user to interact with the application, even if 
just to enter a password -- that is correct, yes? 

As for the service account;

The service account was created while signed in under email address: 
x...@gmail.com. x...@gmail.com is also a user on the Google Ads account. 
However, email a...@gmail.com was utilized to create the test account. Also, 
the service account email is something like: 
marketing-service-acco...@abcdefg.iam.gserviceaccount.com

What if I just added the service account email as a user in the test Google 
Ads account, will that work?

Better yet, should I be impersonating the email x...@gmail.com with the 
service account marketing-service-acco...@abcdefg.iam.gserviceaccount.com?

Currently, I have 'impersonated_email' set to 
marketing-service-acco...@abcdefg.iam.gserviceaccount.com 
but I can change it to x...@gmail.com.


On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 9:45:24 AM UTC-7 adsapi wrote:

> Hi Chad,
>
> Thank you for your reply.
>
> Interactions are sometimes made private due to the sensitive information 
> being shared. Regarding your issue with the service account authentication, 
> and for this "*User in the cookie is not a valid Ads user.*" issue, this 
> appears to be related to the NOT_ADS_USER 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/best-practices/common-errors#not_ads_user>
>  
> error.
>
> That said, could you confirm whether the user / email address you used 
> during the service account credentials generation process is indeed one 
> that has access 
> <https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/9978556?visit_id=638004903301082274-1294938945&rd=1>
>  to 
> a Google Ads account?
>
> In addition, I understand that you have opted to use the service account 
> flow. However, we also recommend that you consider using the other 
> authentication flows, since as also per the service account 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/oauth/service-accounts> 
> guide 
> : 
>
>- *Key Point: We strongly recommend using OAuth2 desktop app or web 
>app flow 
>
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/oauth/cloud-project#choose_an_application_type>
>  instead 
>of service accounts unless you need a domain-specific feature (for 
> example, 
>impersonation). OAuth2 desktop app and web app flows do require an initial 
>user interaction for granting access to the account, but are much simpler 
>to set up.* 
>- *For the OAuth2 desktop app flow 
>
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/oauth/cloud-project#desktop>,
>  
>you can persist a refresh token (which never expires) to obtain a new 
>access token whenever necessary. When using one of our client libraries 
><https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/oauth/client-library>, 
>you can authorize your app by filling out a configuration file.* 
>
> Best regards,
>
> [image: Google Logo] 
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> Google Ads API Team 
>   
>
> ref:_00D1U1174p._5004Q2ewsYl:ref
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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Hi Chad,

Thank you for your reply.

Interactions are sometimes made private due to the sensitive information being 
shared. Regarding your issue with the service account authentication, and for 
this "User in the cookie is not a valid Ads user." issue, this appears to be 
related to the NOT_ADS_USER error.

That said, could you confirm whether the user / email address you used during 
the service account credentials generation process is indeed one that has 
access to a Google Ads account?

In addition, I understand that you have opted to use the service account flow. 
However, we also recommend that you consider using the other authentication 
flows, since as also per the service account guide :

Key Point: We strongly recommend using OAuth2 desktop app or web app flow 
instead of service accounts unless you need a domain-specific feature (for 
example, impersonation). OAuth2 desktop app and web app flows do require an 
initial user interaction for granting access to the account, but are much 
simpler to set up.
For the OAuth2 desktop app flow, you can persist a refresh token (which never 
expires) to obtain a new access token whenever necessary. When using one of our 
client libraries, you can authorize your app by filling out a configuration 
file.

Best regards,

Peter Laurence
Google Ads API Team
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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

@adsapi, 
While researching this issue, I plugged the error code into google and did 
an Exact Match search. Only three results. I played around with my search 
and eventually found more results, but there was a trend of responses 
asking for replies as private messages. This trend resulted in myself not 
being able to find solutions, hence the need for me to post my own question.

Couldn't we keep the conversation accessible to the public, and help people 
who may find themselves stuck at the same place as me?

I'll get the information you asked for.

On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 11:59:01 PM UTC-7 adsapi wrote:

> Hi Chad,
>
> Thank you for reaching us out. I am Sherwin from Google Ads API support 
> team. I hope that you are doing well today.
>
> Since you mentioned that your implementation is Service account flow, 
> please check this document 
>  if 
> you implemented it properly specially if you met the prerequisites 
> .
>  
> If the error persists, please provide a complete request 
> 
>  and response 
> 
>  logs 
> with request ID 
> 
>  and request header 
> 
>  generated 
> on your end? You can provide it via Reply privately to the author option. 
> If this option is not available, then send it instead on this email address 
> googleadsa...@google.com. If you haven't enabled the logging yet, logging 
> can be enabled by navigating to the Client libraries > Your client library 
> (ex. Java) > Logging documentation, which you can access from this link 
> .
>
> Kind regards, 
> [image: Google Logo] 
> Sherwin Vincent 
> Google Ads API Team 
>   
>
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RE: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

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Hi Chad,

Thank you for reaching us out. I am Sherwin from Google Ads API support team. I 
hope that you are doing well today.

Since you mentioned that your implementation is Service account flow, please 
check this document if you implemented it properly specially if you met the 
prerequisites. If the error persists, please provide a complete request and 
response logs with request ID and request header generated on your end? You can 
provide it via Reply privately to the author option. If this option is not 
available, then send it instead on this email address 
googleadsapi-supp...@google.com. If you haven't enabled the logging yet, 
logging can be enabled by navigating to the Client libraries > Your client 
library (ex. Java) > Logging documentation, which you can access from this link.

Kind regards,

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Re: Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

My error has progressed.

Please tell me someone recognizes this. Does it have to do with me using 
Jupyter Notebook?


*``` *
*usage: ipykernel_launcher.py [-h] -c CUSTOMER_ID ipykernel_launcher.py: 
error: the following arguments are required: -c/--customer_id *
*An exception has occurred, use %tb to see the full traceback. SystemExit: 
2*
* ```*
It is being caused by this line in the get_campaigns.py file:
args = parser.parse_args()
On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 4:47:55 PM UTC-7 Chad Wood wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am attempting to utilize the Google Ads Pending Developer Token on a 
> Test Account.
> I followed this guide 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/first-call/test-accounts#create>
>  
> which states the following important details:
>
>
>
>- " If prompted, sign in with a Google Account 
><https://www.google.com/account/about/> that isn't linked to your 
>production Google Ads manager account 
><https://ads.google.com/home/tools/manager-accounts/>. There is also a 
>link to create a new Google Account if you need to do so."
>- "While signed in to your test manager account, create a *test client 
>account*."
>- "Create a few test *campaigns"*
>- "Take note of the *client customer ID*"
>- "Use the developer token of your production manager account when 
>making requests against the test manager account. Even if it's not 
> approved 
>yet, the token will still work on test accounts, including the ones just 
>created."
>
> I did this exactly. I've:
>
>
>1. Created a new Google account for the purpose of creating a Google 
>Ads test account - not in any way associated with out production account
>2. Created the Google Ads Manager Test Account
>3. Created a Google Ads test client account
>4. Created several test campaigns
>5. Used the Productions Pending Developer Token to try and query the 
>test account
>
> I am using the client library for Python, and I am utilizing a Google 
> Service Account for my authentication:
>
> [image: 2022-10-03 16_34_47-Untitled.ipynb (3) - JupyterLab and 4 more 
> pages - Work - Microsoft​ Edge.png]
>
> Yet, when I try to run get_campaigns.py 
> <https://github.com/googleads/google-ads-python/blob/main/examples/basic_operations/get_campaigns.pyosoft%E2%80%8B%20Edge.png>,
>  
> I'm confronted with an authentication error. Here is that error:
>
>
> *```Request with ID "[censored]" failed with status 
> "UNAUTHENTICATED" and includes the following errors:Error with message 
> "User in the cookie is not a valid Ads user.".*
> *```*
>
> So this makes me wonder, do I need to add the test client account to my 
> production manager account?
>
> Attempted to "link" the accounts using "Link an existing account" within 
> Google Ads provides another error. Here is that error:
>
>
>
> *```You can't link this account because the manager and client account 
> types are not compatible.```*
> So what's going on here? Am I mistaken to think the test client account 
> and production manager account need to be linked? I also tried linking the 
> test manager account with the production manger account, and I got the same 
> error. 
>
> Can someone please explain what I'm going wrong? Also, to Google, there is 
> no documentation I can find on the "*manager and client account types are 
> not compatible*" error. Can we please get a page up describing what 
> causes this?
>
> Thanks for any help.
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Google Ads Test Account Does Not Function As Expected

[Chad Wood]

Hello,

I am attempting to utilize the Google Ads Pending Developer Token on a Test 
Account.
I followed this guide 
<https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/first-call/test-accounts#create>
 
which states the following important details:



   - " If prompted, sign in with a Google Account 
   <https://www.google.com/account/about/> that isn't linked to your 
   production Google Ads manager account 
   <https://ads.google.com/home/tools/manager-accounts/>. There is also a 
   link to create a new Google Account if you need to do so."
   - "While signed in to your test manager account, create a *test client 
   account*."
   - "Create a few test *campaigns"*
   - "Take note of the *client customer ID*"
   - "Use the developer token of your production manager account when 
   making requests against the test manager account. Even if it's not approved 
   yet, the token will still work on test accounts, including the ones just 
   created."

I did this exactly. I've:


   1. Created a new Google account for the purpose of creating a Google Ads 
   test account - not in any way associated with out production account
   2. Created the Google Ads Manager Test Account
   3. Created a Google Ads test client account
   4. Created several test campaigns
   5. Used the Productions Pending Developer Token to try and query the 
   test account

I am using the client library for Python, and I am utilizing a Google 
Service Account for my authentication:

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Yet, when I try to run get_campaigns.py 
<https://github.com/googleads/google-ads-python/blob/main/examples/basic_operations/get_campaigns.pyosoft%E2%80%8B%20Edge.png>,
 
I'm confronted with an authentication error. Here is that error:


*```Request with ID "[censored]" failed with status 
"UNAUTHENTICATED" and includes the following errors:Error with message 
"User in the cookie is not a valid Ads user.".*
*```*

So this makes me wonder, do I need to add the test client account to my 
production manager account?

Attempted to "link" the accounts using "Link an existing account" within 
Google Ads provides another error. Here is that error:



*```You can't link this account because the manager and client account 
types are not compatible.```*
So what's going on here? Am I mistaken to think the test client account and 
production manager account need to be linked? I also tried linking the test 
manager account with the production manger account, and I got the same 
error. 

Can someone please explain what I'm going wrong? Also, to Google, there is 
no documentation I can find on the "*manager and client account types are 
not compatible*" error. Can we please get a page up describing what causes 
this?

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Permission denied on test account

[Stephen Bates]

I have followed the steps here to setup a test 
account: 
https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/first-call/test-accounts 

I then followed the steps here to generate an OAuth2 client secret, client 
ID and refresh 
token: 
https://github.com/googleads/google-ads-dotnet/wiki/API-access-using-own-credentials-(desktop-application-flow)
 

I used all of those credentials (in addition to a developer token generated 
on our main production manager account) to try to make a call using the 
Google API (C# client library) to retrieve a list of campaigns in the test 
using the customer ID of the test client account created in the first step.

Unfortunately, I keep getting a Permission Denied error and I've exhausted 
all my options for troubleshooting. Full error stacktrace:

Grpc.Core.RpcException: 
<http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http%3A%2F%2FGrpc.Core.RpcException%3A> 
Status(StatusCode="PermissionDenied", 
Detail="The caller does not have permission")
at Grpc.Net.Client.Internal.HttpContentClientStreamReader`2.MoveNextCore 
<http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http%3A%2F%2FGrpc.Net.Client.Internal.HttpContentClientStreamReader%602.MoveNextCore>(CancellationToken
 
cancellationToken)
at Google.Ads.Gax.Interceptors.StreamingRpcInterceptor`1.MoveNext 
<http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http%3A%2F%2FGoogle.Ads.Gax.Interceptors.StreamingRpcInterceptor%601.MoveNext>(CancellationToken
 
cancellationToken)
at Google.Api.Gax.Grpc.AsyncResponseStream`1.MoveNextAsync 
<http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http%3A%2F%2FGoogle.Api.Gax.Grpc.AsyncResponseStream%601.MoveNextAsync>(CancellationToken
 
cancellationToken)
at 
Google.Ads.GoogleAds.V11.Services.GoogleAdsServiceClient.<>c__DisplayClass32_0.<b__0>d.MoveNext
 
<http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http%3A%2F%2FGoogle.Ads.GoogleAds.V11.Services.GoogleAdsServiceClient.%3C%3Ec__DisplayClass32_0.%3C%3CSearchStreamAsync%3Eb__0%3Ed.MoveNext>
()

Any suggestions on what I should do?

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Re: Test Account Click Id

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Hi Matt,

Thank you for reaching us out. I am Sherwin from Google Ads API support 
team. I hope that you are doing well today.

Moving forward to your concern, there is no test GCLID because it can be 
created if you have a Production Account. The Test accounts do not serve 
authentic ads so you will not get any GCLID. With that being said, in order 
for you to get a GLID, we suggest to create a production Google Ads Manager 
account, you may visit this link 
<https://ads.google.com/home/tools/manager-accounts/>. Thank you for your 
understanding.

Kind regards,
Sherwin Vincent
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> I'm looking to test out the Upload Click Conversion 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/conversions/upload-clicks> 
> API 
> method within a test account.  How do I get a test GCLID in order to test 
> this?  I can't seem to find out how in the documentation.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
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Test Account Click Id

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I'm looking to test out the Upload Click Conversion 
<https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/conversions/upload-clicks> 
API 
method within a test account.  How do I get a test GCLID in order to test 
this?  I can't seem to find out how in the documentation.

Thanks,
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RE: Uploading offline click conversion with ads test account

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Hi,

Thank you for raising this concern to the Google Ads API Forum.

With regard to your questions please refer to my answers below:

Is it possible to test the offline upload click conversion with a test account 
? No. You will encounter an error and this is expected.
If not , can we create gclid with a test account ? No, test accounts don't 
serve authentic ads so you will not get any GCLID.

However, to have a clearer view to your issue, could you please provide the 
complete request and response logs with requestID and request header that 
generated on your end? This information will help our team to further check the 
said issue. If you haven't yet, logging can be enabled by navigating to the 
Client libraries > Your client library (ex. Java) > Logging documentation, 
which you can access from this link.

For security purposes, you can provide it via the Reply privately to author 
option. If this option is not available, then send it instead on this email 
address googleadsapi-supp...@google.com.

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Uploading offline click conversion with ads test account

[SAFTI France]

Hello,

When I run my offline upload click conversion program , I have this message 
:

*Partial failures occurred: 'The click or call is owned by a customer 
account that the uploading customer does not manage., at 
conversions[0].gclid'.*

I created the gclid with a production google ads account,
whereas I used a google ads test account to test in local.

​Is it possible to test the offline upload click conversion with a test 
account ?
If not , can we create gclid with a test account ?

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RE: Can't access keyword plan created via API on my Google Ads Test Account

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Hi,

Thank you for posting your concern.

I completely understand the situation that you mentioned that you can't access 
the keyword plan in the UI even though it is successfully created in the API. 
However, based on your description that issue is more on the UI. With this, I 
am afraid that this is outside of our scope already. That said, I would suggest 
raising your concern to the Product team instead via this link as the UI 
related issues / concerns are within their scope.

Let me know also if you have further questions about Google Ads API and our 
team will be happy to provide support.

Regards,

Ernie John
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RE: Creating a test account

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Hi,

Thanks for reaching out to the Google Ads API Forum.

Kindly note that if you don't see the red Test account label on your Google Ads 
account page, then the account is a production account.

You may follow the below steps to create a test manager account, a test client 
account, and a few campaigns to populate the test client account. Note that 
"client" here refers to a Google Ads client account, not your client app.

Create a test manager account (Select NEW GOOGLE ADS ACCOUNT and then name the 
new account something like test-mana...@mycompany.example.com). To create a 
test account, you must have a Google account that is not already linked to your 
production manager account. Create a new Google account.
While signed in to your test manager account, create a test client account. Any 
client accounts you create from your test manager account are automatically 
test accounts. You may create the test account and test client account 
programmatically via API.
Create a few test campaigns under the test client account in the Google Ads UI.
Take note of the client customer ID for the new test client account, and save 
it. You'll need this to make API calls later.

Let me know if this above helps, or provide the documentation references where 
you think it’s harder to understand.

Regards,

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Creating a test account

[Bernardo Benini Fantin]

Hello,

Currently I have created a manager account with the pourpose of testing how 
the API works. I do not know if my manager account is a test account or 
not, since there's no red label next to my profile photo on my Google Ads 
panel, and when I access *Tools and Settings* > *API Central *I see my 
developer token access is active for "access to the test account" and my 
Level of Access is "Test account". So I am lost to where I'll be billed or 
not because the panel is abiguous for me. 

Also, I don't know how to create a test account associated with my manager 
account and I haven't been able to find the API documentation.

To be honest, I am quite lost with all this process. Many of the links I 
click within Google's docs for the Ads API take me to my panel instead of a 
useful page where I can actually take action, and I am not taking into 
account that sometimes you're redirected to the AdWords, what makes things 
even harder.

I appreciate any help in how to set up my development/test environment for 
using the API.

Many thanks in advance.

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Re: Payment details in test account

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Hi,

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Re: Payment details in test account

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Hi,

Thanks for getting back to us.

However, could you please provide us with a screenshot of the whole Ads UI 
where we can see the balance of the established limit for the client in the Ads 
UI? This so that our team can accurately verify, and provide specific 
recommendations.

Regards,

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Re: Payment details in test account

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Thanks for the answer. Tell me more, how can I get the balance of the 
established limit for the client?

пятница, 6 мая 2022 г. в 12:46:33 UTC+3, adsapi: 

> Hi,
>
> Thank you for the reply. I work with Carmela and allow me to assist you 
> here. 
>
> With regard to your concern, as mentioned by the document that my 
> colleague provided. *"Production accounts serve ads that are rendered to 
> users and involve billing. Test accounts, on the other hand, appear in the 
> Google Ads UI as cancelled accounts since there are no active billing or 
> serving, though API requests still work." *as discussed here 
> .
>  
> However, I can refer you to this overview on how billing is set up 
> 
> . 
>
> Best regards,
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Re: Payment details in test account

[Павел Секацкий]

And how can you test methods related to changes and additions of budgets on 
test accounts?

А как можно протестировать методы, связанные с изменениями и добавлениями 
бюджетов на тестовых аккаунтах?

четверг, 5 мая 2022 г. в 10:30:04 UTC+3, adsapi: 

> Hi,
>
> Thank you for reaching out to the Google Ads API team.
>
> Moving forward to your concern, kindly note that *test accounts* appear 
> in the Google Ads UI as cancelled accounts and it does not support billing 
> or serving, though API requests still work. Test accounts won't affect your 
> live ads or charge your account, hence, they're a useful way to experiment 
> with the API. You may check this documentation 
> 
>  for 
> more information about test accounts.
>
> Regards,
> [image: Google Logo] 
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> Google Ads API Team 
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Payment details in test account

[Павел Секацкий]

Good afternoon. To work with Google Ads Api, I created a test account, but 
when entering payment profiles, it says "Your account does not have access 
rights to payment data. Please contact your account administrator for 
help.". The main account has postpaid payments. Can you please tell me how 
to add the same payment profile to a test account?

Добрый день. Для работы с Google Ads Api, создал тестовый аккаунт, но при 
входе в платёжные профили пишет "У вашего аккаунта нет прав доступа к 
платежным данным. Обратитесь за помощью к своему администратору аккаунта.". 
Основной аккаунт имеет платежи по постоплате. Подскажите пожалуйста, каким 
образом можно добавить такой же платёжный профиль в тестовый аккаунт?

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Limit on the number of accounts within a test account

[Javier Val]

Hello!

Every time we run our integration tests, we are creating accounts within 
our MCC test account. So I have the following question, is there a limit on 
the maximum number of accounts we can create?

The fear is that at some point in the future, our integration tests will 
fail because we can't create more accounts.

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Thanks in advance for the help.

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RE: API Sandbox or Test Account?

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Hi,

Thank you for reaching out to us.

You can follow the instructions here to create a test manager account, a test 
client account, and a few campaigns to populate the test client account.

Let me know if you have further questions.

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API Sandbox or Test Account?

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Does anyone know how to create a test account for Google Ads?

I'd really like to be able to test my code without spending money.

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Re: Upload offline conversions using test account

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Hello, just wondering if there is a way now to use a test gclid?

Thank you,
Lee

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> Hi Priya,
>
> Thank you for reaching out to us. Unfortunately it is currently not 
> possible to test the conversions using test accounts as they do not serve 
> ads. You need to have a production account for this functionality. Please 
> refer to this 
>  
> guide 
> for uploading conversions via API. Let me know if you have further 
> questions.
>
> Thank you,
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Re: Create test account

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Hi Marcelle,

Thank you for reporting this, could you privately send us the email accounts 
that experienced this issue? I found that gmail accounts (accounts having 
'@gmail.com') cannot have dashes and raised this with my team. You may monitor 
our test account guide for an update.

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Re: Create test account

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To those that read this:

The issue was the account was called "accounts-t...@companyname.com" (the 
setup instructions use theis specific email as an example: 
"test-mana...@mycompany.example.com")

HOWEVER: Google/gmail IGNORES after the minus sign in email addresses - so 
given our main account is "accou...@companyname.com" it was somehow getting 
confused / using the same address.

With this new account I managed to get set up, it just worked straight off. 
Only figured it out as accounts team started getting spam from the google 
group on their main email :D

Perhaps reconsider using a dash in your example email, google :) 
 

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>
> Thank you for the reply.
>
> Yes, the step that they mentioned on that thread discussed here 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/first-call/overview?hl=en> 
> including the link and to use a new Google account. 
>
> As for this issue below, to take a closer look at it, would you be able to 
> provide the steps with screenshots on how you encountered it? You can 
> provide it via *Reply privately to author* option. If this option is not 
> available, then send it instead on this email address 
> googleadsa...@google.com.
>
>
> "
>
>
> *When I click that link with my private email as used in my OP then I get 
> the little red test account box. (so have figured the flow correctly) When 
> I use this freshly set up office account for work (this one I am posting 
> with rn) - I do not. When clicking the link in the documentation, I was 
> taken to a wizard, and had to jump through the "company creditcard" hoops 
> to get it set up - could it be related? *"
>
> Regards,
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Re: Create test account

[Matthew Cloy]

https://ads.google.com/um/Welcome/?sf=mt is the link - if I try it on this 
account I get the "create a new account" popup, and when clicking I see the 
red test account box. If I try it on the actual account I need to use 
mentioned above I just end up on the "campaigns" screen with no red test 
account box.
On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 8:07:54 AM UTC+1 accoun...@tubics.com 
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> This is the OP (inceptit.org email) -
>
> Still no joy. What I have found so far is that one of the links in the 
> documentation has a hidden magic query parameter (st=mt) that is super not 
> clear in docs, but vital to creating a test manager account.
> The other key I found is being LOGGED INTO CHROME with the fresh google 
> account when clicking the link in the documentation page. (not super easy 
> when that google account is managed by the company - infosec is not happy)
>
> However:
>
> When I click that link with my private email as used in my OP then I get 
> the little red test account box. (so have figured the flow correctly)
> When I use this freshly set up office account for work (this one I am 
> posting with rn) - I do not.
>
> When clicking the link in the documentation, I was taken to a wizard, and 
> had to jump through the "company creditcard" hoops to get it set up - could 
> it be related? 
>
>
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 4:08:55 AM UTC+1 adsapi wrote:
>
>> Hi Héctor,
>>
>> Thank you for your question.
>>
>> Yes, you are correct that this 
>> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/account-management/create-account?hl=en>
>>  
>> should be the documentation to follow / refer to when creating production 
>> or test client accounts via the API. In addition, in order for a client 
>> account to be created as a test account, the below conditions should be 
>> followed : 
>>
>>- You use a test manager account's ID as the value for the *managerId* 
>>- You authenticate or use OAuth2 credentials 
>>
>> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/oauth/cloud-project?hl=en>
>>  
>>generated by a user / email address that has access 
>>
>> <https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/9978556?visit_id=637800592507412790-1762993801&rd=1>
>>  
>>to the test manager account 
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> [image: Google Logo] 
>> Peter Laurence 
>> Google Ads API Team 
>>   
>>
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>>
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Re: Create test account

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Hi,

so, to create the test account, is this documentation 
<https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/account-management/create-account?hl=en>
 
the right one? I haven't tried yet, but I'm wondering how is that it will 
result in a "test account" and not simply a normal account...

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> Hi Matthew,
>
> Thank you for reaching out to our API support team.
>
> The guide 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/first-call/overview?hl=en#test_account>
>  
> you provided should provide the steps for you to create your test 
> *manager* account. 
>
> When creating test *client* accounts, you will then need to create a 
> separate set of OAuth2 credentials 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/oauth/cloud-project?hl=en> 
> using the email address that has access to the test manager account, and 
> once these credentials are set up, you can then perform a request by 
> following this example 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/account-management/create-account?hl=en>
>  
> to create the client account.
>
> Should you encounter issues with the above steps and in your API request, 
> you may provide the complete request 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/concepts/field-service#request>
>  
> and response 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/concepts/field-service#response>
>  
> logs with the request-id 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/concepts/call-structure#request-id>,
>  
> so our team can take a closer look. If you haven't yet, logging can be 
> enabled by navigating to the *Client libraries > Your client library (ex. 
> Java) > Logging* documentation, which you can access from this link 
> <https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/client-libs?hl=en>.
>
> You may then send the requested information via the *Reply privately to 
> author* option. If this option is not available, you may send the details 
> directly to our googleadsa...@google.com alias instead.
>
> Best regards,
>
> [image: Google Logo] 
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Re: Create test account

[Matthew Cloy]

I have literally set everything else up (OAuth, all the GCP stuff, refresh 
tokens - which I guess will need to redo once the test account is created) 
- but the account  I did it with is not a test one so I can't call the API 
We are just evaluating it - and now am stuck on the most basic part, how to 
create a test account to use with our API key.

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 4:52:36 PM UTC+1 Matthew Cloy wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Trying to get started with the API, but really don't get how to create a 
> test account.
>
>
> In the info here: it says we have to use the API to create the account 
> (which makes sense because the 3 accounts I created in the UI don't seem to 
> be test ones)
>
> https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/first-call/overview?hl=en#test_account
>
> But  info on creating account using the API is missing any documentation 
> on test accounts, and how to create them?!
>
> https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/account-management/create-account
>
> Other documentation mentions clicking on CREATE TEST ACCOUNT in the UI, 
> but the all docs here seem rather lacking in good info.
>
> Can anyone give me a clue how to get a test account up and running?
>
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Create test account

[Matthew Cloy]

Hi All,

Trying to get started with the API, but really don't get how to create a 
test account.


In the info here: it says we have to use the API to create the account 
(which makes sense because the 3 accounts I created in the UI don't seem to 
be test ones)
https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/first-call/overview?hl=en#test_account

But  info on creating account using the API is missing any documentation on 
test accounts, and how to create them?!
https://developers.google.com/google-ads/api/docs/account-management/create-account

Other documentation mentions clicking on CREATE TEST ACCOUNT in the UI, but 
the all docs here seem rather lacking in good info.

Can anyone give me a clue how to get a test account up and running?

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RE: Google ads test account

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Hi David,

Thank you for reaching out to us.

With regard to creating a test account, you can refer to this guide on how you 
can create your test account. Kindly note that test accounts can only be 
created through the Google Ads API, though they can be viewed in the UI. Let me 
know if you need anything else.

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Google ads test account

[david gurevich]

I checked already all the internet can't find the right way to create test 
account for google ads
can someone help me with guide or something and not just sending me the 
documentation of google.
Their documentation is not understandable read few times and didnt get that.
so how to create test google ads account ?

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RE: Steps to set up a test account for API Access

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Hi Kips,

Thank you for reaching out to us.

You can refer to the instructions in this link to create a test manager 
account. To create a test client account, you can refer to this example, while 
using OAuth2 credentials generated by a user that has access to your test 
manager account. Then through this guide, you can create a few campaigns to 
populate the test client account.

You can follow the rest of the steps in our Quickstart guide to complete your 
setup for Google Ads API. If you encounter any issues, just let us know a 
summary of the issue so we can further investigate.

You may also share some screenshots and/or the complete request and response 
logs with request ID via Reply privately to author option so we can take a 
closer look at the issue. If this option is not available to you, you may send 
the additional information to googleadsapi-supp...@google.com instead, just let 
us know in this thread once you have sent it so we can check on our end.

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Steps to set up a test account for API Access

[Kips Davenport]

Hi,

Can anyone provide me with (clear) steps to set up a test account for full 
access to the Google Ads (*Not Adwords*) API.

I want to set up an account that can manage billing and campaigns etc for 
my ads only from an admin web app.  The documentation i've found seems to 
be vague at best and out of date or wrong in most cases.

Thanks

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RE: Can Test-Account link with Client-Account?

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Hello Daich,

Thanks for reaching out to the Google Ads API support team. Please find the 
answers for your questions.

Q1. does "customer_id"  equal 10 digit number of Test-Account(MCC)? - Your 
customer ID is used to identify your Google Ads account. Yes, it is also a 10 
digit number. You may find more details here.

Q2. what is "keyword_plan_id", and how can I confirm it? - Well you can get the 
"keyword_plan_id" from the keyword_plan report.

And to understand the error message which you provided, could you please 
provide us with the complete request and response logs with request-id, so that 
our team may take a closer look.

Regards,

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Can Test-Account link with Client-Account?

[Daich]

Hello.

I'm trying to use example code "generate_forcast_metrics.py" from GitHub in 
Test-Account.
When it is executed, "customer_id" & "keyword_plan_id" are required.

Q1. does "customer_id"  equal 10 digit number of Test-Account(MCC)?

Q2. what is "keyword_plan_id", and how can I confirm it?

I think "keyword_plan_id" is shown in URL query parameter 
"planid=X" when one keyword plan is selected in Client-Account.
So, I input that to console, but errror occured with message "No plan with 
planId[X] exists".

Then, I thought the cause is that Test-Account doesn't link with 
Client-Account.
So, I submitted request to link them on Google Ads, but error occured with 
message "クライアント センター（MCC）アカウントとクライアント アカウントの種類に互換性がないため、このアカウントをリンクできません。"

Please tell me how I should do.
Thanks in advance.

Daichi.

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RE: Not able to connect to test account

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Hi Rahul,


Can you please check if you have properly filled up the login-customer-id 
without hyphens (-)? You can refer to this link for reference on the Google Ads 
API's call structure. If you're still encountering any errors, please provide 
the complete request and response logs with request ID so we can better 
investigate your concern. You can send these to me via Reply privately to 
author option or if this option is not available, you may send the details 
directly to our googleadsapi-supp...@google.com alias instead.


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Not able to connect to test account

[Rahul Verma]

Steps i followed
1. Create a new google account.
2. create a google ads manager account.
3. get a google ads developer token for test account.
4. setup cloud console by enabling the google ads api and api 
credentials(oauth client id and secret) and add same google account as test 
user in consent screen.
5. create a different google account and create a test manager account and 
test account in it.
6. setup client library in php and fill up configuration details placed in 
home directory (developer token of manager account, client id and secret of 
manager account id cloud console and login customer id of manager account)
7. command php authenticateindesktopapplication.php and get refresh token 
and then filling it in configuration file.
8. command php getcampaignsphp --customerId x (using the customer 
id of test account) is returning USER PERMISSION DENIED. User doesn't have 
permission to access customer. Note: If you're accessing a client customer, 
the manager's customer id must be set in the 'login-customer-id' header.

But i did fill up login customer id in google_ads_php.ini file.

Can anyone please point out what am i m doing wrong here?

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RE: ADVERTISER_NOT_ON_ALLOWLIST_FOR_USING_UPLOADED_DATA On Test account

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Hi Brian,

Thanks for reaching out to us.

Kindly note that the Customer Match and other user lists cannot be used in test 
accounts since user lists are not supported in test accounts and will 
automatically close upon creation. They can only be used in production 
accounts. Also, Customer Match is an allowlisted feature. Certain requirements 
must be met before it can be used. Please see this page for more details on 
requirements.

Let us know if you have any further questions.

Regards,

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ADVERTISER_NOT_ON_ALLOWLIST_FOR_USING_UPLOADED_DATA On Test account

[Brian Maynard]

Hi,

Why am I getting this error on a test account?

Is there away around this, as I need to dev and test uploading Customer 
Match lists using the API before going into production?

Thanks

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