[AFMUG] OT Grow Room
Got my turbo cloner yesterday. Almost zero instructions. Do you just let these things spray 2/7? Do you cycle the lights? I figured there had to be at least one hydroponic person here... (Don’t get excited, that Mormon guy is attempting to clone spruce trees...)
[AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
So, llaves. The double L. English J sound or English Y sound? We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
More like J sound Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: So, llaves. The double L. English J sound or English Y sound? We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
Y sound. if you want the castellano puro :) On Nov 29, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So, llaves. The double L. English J sound or English Y sound? We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
There are probably regional/dialect differences. According to some,
it's actually a sound in-between a Y and a J. But if you're an
English-speaking white guy from Utah, I'll bet the Y sound would be
acceptable. Other places would probably sound like J.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 11/29/2014 10:20 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
So, llaves.
The double L.
English J sound or English Y sound?
We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
I am glad we got that settled :
From: Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
There are probably regional/dialect differences. According to some, it's
actually a sound in-between a Y and a J. But if you're an English-speaking
white guy from Utah, I'll bet the Y sound would be acceptable. Other places
would probably sound like J.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 11/29/2014 10:20 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
So, llaves.
The double L.
English J sound or English Y sound?
We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
So, I think I will attempt to recalibrate my tongue for the J sound. Unless Jaime chimes in here and talks me out of it. From: Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:26 AM To: mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta More like J sound Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So, llaves. The double L. English J sound or English Y sound? We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
But Ella is Y sound, yes? From: Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:26 AM To: mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta More like J sound Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So, llaves. The double L. English J sound or English Y sound? We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
Around here, they say llama as yama.
or
WWJS?
(What Would Jaime Say)
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bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 11/29/2014 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
But Ella is Y sound, yes?
*From:* Gino Villarini via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:26 AM
*To:* mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
More like J sound
Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini
On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
So, llaves.
The double L.
English J sound or English Y sound?
We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Grow Room
Believe me. Tommy Chong will smoke it Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 10:18 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Got my turbo cloner yesterday. Almost zero instructions. Do you just let these things spray 2/7? Do you cycle the lights? I figured there had to be at least one hydroponic person here... (Don’t get excited, that Mormon guy is attempting to clone spruce trees...)
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
Well we would say it more like yaves. Ya like c'ya and ves like vest Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 11:26 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: More like J sound Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So, llaves. The double L. English J sound or English Y sound? We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
[AFMUG] Star Wars: The Force Awakens.
It's going to be a long year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgZOz4nZlLk
Re: [AFMUG] Star Wars: The Force Awakens.
Yes, yes indeed young padawan :) On 11/29/2014 1:04 PM, Jay Weekley via Af wrote: It's going to be a long year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgZOz4nZlLk --
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
Ella, like llave is pronounced with a J sound, a Y sound would be like eia Unless you are from Argentina, the have a weird sound for Ll, Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: But Ella is Y sound, yes? From: Gino Villarini via Afmailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:26 AM To: mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta More like J sound Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: So, llaves. The double L. English J sound or English Y sound? We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
That is what I always said until I started trying to complete the duolingo language training tree and they are throwing J sounds around like crazy. One sentence you have to translate from their audio only - had llaves in it. I must have played that thing 25 times fast and slow, asked my wife, and finally wrote “ja ves” into the sentence as a guess and understandably got it wrong. I felt pretty dumb after the answer was revealed. I knew it was a noun of some sort, but the context didn’t provide much of a clue. From: Jaime Solorza via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:01 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta Well we would say it more like yaves. Ya like c'ya and ves like vest Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 11:26 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: More like J sound Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So, llaves. The double L. English J sound or English Y sound? We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
I'm thinking Y as in Young and Yes.. Like a long E sound. Do I have this wrong? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Well we would say it more like yaves. Ya like c'ya and ves like vest Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 11:26 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: More like J sound Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: So, llaves. The double L. English J sound or English Y sound? We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today
A local guy went out to change his oil today. Found a penis drawn on his oil filter. That filter had been installed by Jiffy Lube. Same company that billed us for an oil change a few years ago (fleet account) for a car that my business partner’s step daughter crashed and totaled a year before.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
That is the way I am taking it. I have always said eah ves (that is a bit exaggerated). yaw Like an airplane turning without banking. From: Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:25 PM To: mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta I'm thinking Y as in Young and Yes.. Like a long E sound. Do I have this wrong? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Well we would say it more like yaves. Ya like c'ya and ves like vest Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 11:26 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: More like J sound Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So, llaves. The double L. English J sound or English Y sound? We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
Example: Lluvia Eeuveea Or Juveea (Ju like junior) In PR we go by Ju Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: That is the way I am taking it. I have always said eah ves (that is a bit exaggerated). yaw Like an airplane turning without banking. From: Gino Villarini via Afmailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:25 PM To: mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta I'm thinking Y as in Young and Yes.. Like a long E sound. Do I have this wrong? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Well we would say it more like yaves. Ya like c'ya and ves like vest Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 11:26 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: More like J sound Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: So, llaves. The double L. English J sound or English Y sound? We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
We use it like a Y Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 12:23 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ella, like llave is pronounced with a J sound, a Y sound would be like eia Unless you are from Argentina, the have a weird sound for Ll, Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: But Ella is Y sound, yes? *From:* Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:26 AM *To:* mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta More like J sound Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So, llaves. The double L. English J sound or English Y sound? We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
F''or us its you vianot juvia as in justice. Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 12:45 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Example: Lluvia Eeuveea Or Juveea (Ju like junior) In PR we go by Ju Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That is the way I am taking it. I have always said eah ves (that is a bit exaggerated). yaw Like an airplane turning without banking. *From:* Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:25 PM *To:* mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta I'm thinking Y as in Young and Yes.. Like a long E sound. Do I have this wrong? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Well we would say it more like yaves. Ya like c'ya and ves like vest Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 11:26 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: More like J sound Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So, llaves. The double L. English J sound or English Y sound? We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today
We bring Mobil 1 oil filters in when we have the local oil change place change the oil. Last oil change, neither my car or the work van had them on their when I looked about 3000 miles after the change. After some heated discussions concerning the theft of my oil filters and shenanigans that might require a review of whether they are really using Mobil1 1 oil, they changed both vehicles while I watched them open new bottles of oil in front of me. Fortunately this was the first time I used them, and the last time. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today A local guy went out to change his oil today. Found a penis drawn on his oil filter. That filter had been installed by Jiffy Lube. Same company that billed us for an oil change a few years ago (fleet account) for a car that my business partner’s step daughter crashed and totaled a year before.
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems
See http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 6 blinks = power missing/too low. And yes, you need a syncpipe. -forrest On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here's a video, not sure what the blinking means? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8A-H_590 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: *rb2011 with ports 2/3/4/5 set to hardware switch (ether2 master, 3/4/5 slave). Ports 6/7/8/9 are hardware switch (ether6 master, 7/8/9 slave). *From the rb2011 it goes to the Ethernet half of the SyncInjector. *From the POE half of the SyncInjector it goes to WB gigeapc HV surge suppressors and then to the ePMP radios. Two of the ePMP radios are powered up and running gige. Neither are receiving CMM sync (top of the ePMP says Not receiving GPS sync). The remaining 6 APs aren't even powering up/linking up. Any ideas before I start swapping parts? Is it OK to have the surge between SyncInjectors and ePMP? On top of all of this the SiteMonitor isn't talking to the POE injector or the two Gig SyncInjectors. I have them all daisy chained and verified they're snapped in place. The POE injector is powering Ubnt radios just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
Simon ese Holmes. But we called it Califas. Orale!
Jaime Solorza
On Nov 29, 2014 1:03 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Like Californian English ?
http://vimeo.com/81752314
*From:* Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:01 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
See what I mean? It's regional.
In California Spanish, the Y sound is predominant.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 11/29/2014 11:50 AM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote:
F''or us its you vianot juvia as in justice.
Jaime Solorza
On Nov 29, 2014 12:45 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Example: Lluvia
Eeuveea
Or
Juveea
(Ju like junior)
In PR we go by Ju
Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini
On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
That is the way I am taking it.
I have always said eah ves (that is a bit exaggerated). yaw Like an
airplane turning without banking.
*From:* Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:25 PM
*To:* mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
I'm thinking Y as in Young and Yes.. Like a long E sound. Do I have
this wrong?
Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini
On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Well we would say it more like yaves. Ya like c'ya and ves like vest
Jaime Solorza
On Nov 29, 2014 11:26 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
More like J sound
Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini
On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
So, llaves.
The double L.
English J sound or English Y sound?
We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
'llaves is same in Texmex. Also regional through out state. Here we say
asi as in like that or thats the way it is. In Midland only few hours away
they say asina. Or chalupas...we call them tostadas. East folk say I
want a pop. Around here its soda or a Coke...
Jaime Solorza
On Nov 29, 2014 2:18 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
As opposed to TexMex.
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bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 11/29/2014 12:03 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
Like Californian English ?
http://vimeo.com/81752314
*From:* Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:01 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
See what I mean? It's regional.
In California Spanish, the Y sound is predominant.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 11/29/2014 11:50 AM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote:
F''or us its you vianot juvia as in justice.
Jaime Solorza
On Nov 29, 2014 12:45 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Example: Lluvia
Eeuveea
Or
Juveea
(Ju like junior)
In PR we go by Ju
Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini
On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
That is the way I am taking it.
I have always said eah ves (that is a bit exaggerated). yaw Like an
airplane turning without banking.
*From:* Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:25 PM
*To:* mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
I'm thinking Y as in Young and Yes.. Like a long E sound. Do I have
this wrong?
Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini
On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Well we would say it more like yaves. Ya like c'ya and ves like vest
Jaime Solorza
On Nov 29, 2014 11:26 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
More like J sound
Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini
On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
So, llaves.
The double L.
English J sound or English Y sound?
We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems
So I just got back...fuse popped on that SyncInjector. Not sure why. There was a Ubnt Beam on it - the cable was moved to the POE injector and fuse replaced. SyncInjector is working as expected right now. Sure hoping Forrest can do next day shipping on Monday =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: See http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 6 blinks = power missing/too low. And yes, you need a syncpipe. -forrest On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here's a video, not sure what the blinking means? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8A-H_590 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: *rb2011 with ports 2/3/4/5 set to hardware switch (ether2 master, 3/4/5 slave). Ports 6/7/8/9 are hardware switch (ether6 master, 7/8/9 slave). *From the rb2011 it goes to the Ethernet half of the SyncInjector. *From the POE half of the SyncInjector it goes to WB gigeapc HV surge suppressors and then to the ePMP radios. Two of the ePMP radios are powered up and running gige. Neither are receiving CMM sync (top of the ePMP says Not receiving GPS sync). The remaining 6 APs aren't even powering up/linking up. Any ideas before I start swapping parts? Is it OK to have the surge between SyncInjectors and ePMP? On top of all of this the SiteMonitor isn't talking to the POE injector or the two Gig SyncInjectors. I have them all daisy chained and verified they're snapped in place. The POE injector is powering Ubnt radios just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems
I have a bunch of them in the shop if you need one. Mark Radabaugh Amplex 27800 Lemoyne, Ste F Millbury, OH 43447 419-261-5996 On Nov 29, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So I just got back...fuse popped on that SyncInjector. Not sure why. There was a Ubnt Beam on it - the cable was moved to the POE injector and fuse replaced. SyncInjector is working as expected right now. Sure hoping Forrest can do next day shipping on Monday =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: See http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 6 blinks = power missing/too low. And yes, you need a syncpipe. -forrest On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here's a video, not sure what the blinking means? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8A-H_590 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: *rb2011 with ports 2/3/4/5 set to hardware switch (ether2 master, 3/4/5 slave). Ports 6/7/8/9 are hardware switch (ether6 master, 7/8/9 slave). *From the rb2011 it goes to the Ethernet half of the SyncInjector. *From the POE half of the SyncInjector it goes to WB gigeapc HV surge suppressors and then to the ePMP radios. Two of the ePMP radios are powered up and running gige. Neither are receiving CMM sync (top of the ePMP says Not receiving GPS sync). The remaining 6 APs aren't even powering up/linking up. Any ideas before I start swapping parts? Is it OK to have the surge between SyncInjectors and ePMP? On top of all of this the SiteMonitor isn't talking to the POE injector or the two Gig SyncInjectors. I have them all daisy chained and verified they're snapped in place. The POE injector is powering Ubnt radios just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems
Would you mind shipping it to me? I can order one from Packetflux Monday and deliver it to your address? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a bunch of them in the shop if you need one. Mark Radabaugh Amplex 27800 Lemoyne, Ste F Millbury, OH 43447 419-261-5996 On Nov 29, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So I just got back...fuse popped on that SyncInjector. Not sure why. There was a Ubnt Beam on it - the cable was moved to the POE injector and fuse replaced. SyncInjector is working as expected right now. Sure hoping Forrest can do next day shipping on Monday =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: See http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 6 blinks = power missing/too low. And yes, you need a syncpipe. -forrest On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here's a video, not sure what the blinking means? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8A-H_590 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: *rb2011 with ports 2/3/4/5 set to hardware switch (ether2 master, 3/4/5 slave). Ports 6/7/8/9 are hardware switch (ether6 master, 7/8/9 slave). *From the rb2011 it goes to the Ethernet half of the SyncInjector. *From the POE half of the SyncInjector it goes to WB gigeapc HV surge suppressors and then to the ePMP radios. Two of the ePMP radios are powered up and running gige. Neither are receiving CMM sync (top of the ePMP says Not receiving GPS sync). The remaining 6 APs aren't even powering up/linking up. Any ideas before I start swapping parts? Is it OK to have the surge between SyncInjectors and ePMP? On top of all of this the SiteMonitor isn't talking to the POE injector or the two Gig SyncInjectors. I have them all daisy chained and verified they're snapped in place. The POE injector is powering Ubnt radios just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems
I’ve popped a couple SyncInjectors due to water in one of the jacks (mounted with jacks facing up, I’ll never do that again). I take it there’s a replaceable fuse inside? I’ll have to open them up and see if I can fix them. From: Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems So I just got back...fuse popped on that SyncInjector. Not sure why. There was a Ubnt Beam on it - the cable was moved to the POE injector and fuse replaced. SyncInjector is working as expected right now. Sure hoping Forrest can do next day shipping on Monday =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: See http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 6 blinks = power missing/too low. And yes, you need a syncpipe. -forrest On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here's a video, not sure what the blinking means? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8A-H_590 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: *rb2011 with ports 2/3/4/5 set to hardware switch (ether2 master, 3/4/5 slave). Ports 6/7/8/9 are hardware switch (ether6 master, 7/8/9 slave). *From the rb2011 it goes to the Ethernet half of the SyncInjector. *From the POE half of the SyncInjector it goes to WB gigeapc HV surge suppressors and then to the ePMP radios. Two of the ePMP radios are powered up and running gige. Neither are receiving CMM sync (top of the ePMP says Not receiving GPS sync). The remaining 6 APs aren't even powering up/linking up. Any ideas before I start swapping parts? Is it OK to have the surge between SyncInjectors and ePMP? On top of all of this the SiteMonitor isn't talking to the POE injector or the two Gig SyncInjectors. I have them all daisy chained and verified they're snapped in place. The POE injector is powering Ubnt radios just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems
Not that I'm aware of. It was one of the fuses I have between my 24vdc supply and SyncInjectors, POE injectors, MTs, SiteMonitor. All 8 other fuses were fine, not sure what made this one pop. Running all day at this point... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I’ve popped a couple SyncInjectors due to water in one of the jacks (mounted with jacks facing up, I’ll never do that again). I take it there’s a replaceable fuse inside? I’ll have to open them up and see if I can fix them. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems So I just got back...fuse popped on that SyncInjector. Not sure why. There was a Ubnt Beam on it - the cable was moved to the POE injector and fuse replaced. SyncInjector is working as expected right now. Sure hoping Forrest can do next day shipping on Monday =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: See http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 6 blinks = power missing/too low. And yes, you need a syncpipe. -forrest On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here's a video, not sure what the blinking means? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8A-H_590 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: *rb2011 with ports 2/3/4/5 set to hardware switch (ether2 master, 3/4/5 slave). Ports 6/7/8/9 are hardware switch (ether6 master, 7/8/9 slave). *From the rb2011 it goes to the Ethernet half of the SyncInjector. *From the POE half of the SyncInjector it goes to WB gigeapc HV surge suppressors and then to the ePMP radios. Two of the ePMP radios are powered up and running gige. Neither are receiving CMM sync (top of the ePMP says Not receiving GPS sync). The remaining 6 APs aren't even powering up/linking up. Any ideas before I start swapping parts? Is it OK to have the surge between SyncInjectors and ePMP? On top of all of this the SiteMonitor isn't talking to the POE injector or the two Gig SyncInjectors. I have them all daisy chained and verified they're snapped in place. The POE injector is powering Ubnt radios just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems
Well if you plugged an UBNT radio into the SyncInjector, that will do it. Wrong polarity. What size fuse did you have on it? I'm putting 3A fuses on mine. Probably should just use 5A because 3A might be too small if I have four 3GHz 450APs on one injector. I think the SyncInjector solid-state overcurrent protection is 2A per port? On 11/29/2014 4:27 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Not that I'm aware of. It was one of the fuses I have between my 24vdc supply and SyncInjectors, POE injectors, MTs, SiteMonitor. All 8 other fuses were fine, not sure what made this one pop. Running all day at this point... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I’ve popped a couple SyncInjectors due to water in one of the jacks (mounted with jacks facing up, I’ll never do that again). I take it there’s a replaceable fuse inside? I’ll have to open them up and see if I can fix them. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems So I just got back...fuse popped on that SyncInjector. Not sure why. There was a Ubnt Beam on it - the cable was moved to the POE injector and fuse replaced. SyncInjector is working as expected right now. Sure hoping Forrest can do next day shipping on Monday =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: See http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 6 blinks = power missing/too low. And yes, you need a syncpipe. -forrest On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Here's a video, not sure what the blinking means? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8A-H_590 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: *rb2011 with ports 2/3/4/5 set to hardware switch (ether2 master, 3/4/5 slave). Ports 6/7/8/9 are hardware switch (ether6 master, 7/8/9 slave). *From the rb2011 it goes to the Ethernet half of the SyncInjector. *From the POE half of the SyncInjector it goes to WB gigeapc HV surge suppressors and then to the ePMP radios. Two of the ePMP radios are powered up and running gige. Neither are receiving CMM sync (top of the ePMP says Not receiving GPS sync). The remaining 6 APs aren't even powering up/linking up. Any ideas before I start swapping parts? Is it OK to have the surge between SyncInjectors and ePMP? On top of all of this the SiteMonitor isn't talking to the POE injector or the two Gig SyncInjectors. I have them all daisy chained and verified they're snapped in place. The POE injector is powering Ubnt radios just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems
There isn't a replaceable fuse inside. Generally water damage ends up corroding something which needs to be replaced. Right now, our warranty repairs seem to have dwindled to no defect found, lightning damage (good for engineering future products), and water damage causing connector corrosion (not sure what we can do to fix this problem). I'm also not quite sure what to do with the water damaged ones since that isn't really a product defect or something we are able to fix in future products through engineering. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I’ve popped a couple SyncInjectors due to water in one of the jacks (mounted with jacks facing up, I’ll never do that again). I take it there’s a replaceable fuse inside? I’ll have to open them up and see if I can fix them. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems So I just got back...fuse popped on that SyncInjector. Not sure why. There was a Ubnt Beam on it - the cable was moved to the POE injector and fuse replaced. SyncInjector is working as expected right now. Sure hoping Forrest can do next day shipping on Monday =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: See http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 6 blinks = power missing/too low. And yes, you need a syncpipe. -forrest On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here's a video, not sure what the blinking means? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8A-H_590 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: *rb2011 with ports 2/3/4/5 set to hardware switch (ether2 master, 3/4/5 slave). Ports 6/7/8/9 are hardware switch (ether6 master, 7/8/9 slave). *From the rb2011 it goes to the Ethernet half of the SyncInjector. *From the POE half of the SyncInjector it goes to WB gigeapc HV surge suppressors and then to the ePMP radios. Two of the ePMP radios are powered up and running gige. Neither are receiving CMM sync (top of the ePMP says Not receiving GPS sync). The remaining 6 APs aren't even powering up/linking up. Any ideas before I start swapping parts? Is it OK to have the surge between SyncInjectors and ePMP? On top of all of this the SiteMonitor isn't talking to the POE injector or the two Gig SyncInjectors. I have them all daisy chained and verified they're snapped in place. The POE injector is powering Ubnt radios just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems
I'd have to look to see what the actual threshold is. BUT... 2A is my recollection as well since we have people using these at 12V, and at that low of a voltage the current goes up dramatically. There are only limited cases where any fuse will blow before the overcurrent protection. It all depends on the speed of the fuse and the current being drawn. -forrest On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 4:10 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Well if you plugged an UBNT radio into the SyncInjector, that will do it. Wrong polarity. What size fuse did you have on it? I'm putting 3A fuses on mine. Probably should just use 5A because 3A might be too small if I have four 3GHz 450APs on one injector. I think the SyncInjector solid-state overcurrent protection is 2A per port? On 11/29/2014 4:27 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Not that I'm aware of. It was one of the fuses I have between my 24vdc supply and SyncInjectors, POE injectors, MTs, SiteMonitor. All 8 other fuses were fine, not sure what made this one pop. Running all day at this point... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I’ve popped a couple SyncInjectors due to water in one of the jacks (mounted with jacks facing up, I’ll never do that again). I take it there’s a replaceable fuse inside? I’ll have to open them up and see if I can fix them. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems So I just got back...fuse popped on that SyncInjector. Not sure why. There was a Ubnt Beam on it - the cable was moved to the POE injector and fuse replaced. SyncInjector is working as expected right now. Sure hoping Forrest can do next day shipping on Monday =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: See http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 6 blinks = power missing/too low. And yes, you need a syncpipe. -forrest On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here's a video, not sure what the blinking means? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8A-H_590 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: *rb2011 with ports 2/3/4/5 set to hardware switch (ether2 master, 3/4/5 slave). Ports 6/7/8/9 are hardware switch (ether6 master, 7/8/9 slave). *From the rb2011 it goes to the Ethernet half of the SyncInjector. *From the POE half of the SyncInjector it goes to WB gigeapc HV surge suppressors and then to the ePMP radios. Two of the ePMP radios are powered up and running gige. Neither are receiving CMM sync (top of the ePMP says Not receiving GPS sync). The remaining 6 APs aren't even powering up/linking up. Any ideas before I start swapping parts? Is it OK to have the surge between SyncInjectors and ePMP? On top of all of this the SiteMonitor isn't talking to the POE injector or the two Gig SyncInjectors. I have them all daisy chained and verified they're snapped in place. The POE injector is powering Ubnt radios just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems
Not sure if this would be worse or better, but 3 feet long flying leads instead of jacks could be a solution. However that requires lots of hand work on the assembly and water can propagate under the jacket. I guess if it was filled cable. And there are IDC type of connectors that could speed assembly. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 4:30 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems There isn't a replaceable fuse inside. Generally water damage ends up corroding something which needs to be replaced. Right now, our warranty repairs seem to have dwindled to no defect found, lightning damage (good for engineering future products), and water damage causing connector corrosion (not sure what we can do to fix this problem). I'm also not quite sure what to do with the water damaged ones since that isn't really a product defect or something we are able to fix in future products through engineering. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I’ve popped a couple SyncInjectors due to water in one of the jacks (mounted with jacks facing up, I’ll never do that again). I take it there’s a replaceable fuse inside? I’ll have to open them up and see if I can fix them. From: Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems So I just got back...fuse popped on that SyncInjector. Not sure why. There was a Ubnt Beam on it - the cable was moved to the POE injector and fuse replaced. SyncInjector is working as expected right now. Sure hoping Forrest can do next day shipping on Monday =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: See http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 6 blinks = power missing/too low. And yes, you need a syncpipe. -forrest On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here's a video, not sure what the blinking means? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8A-H_590 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: *rb2011 with ports 2/3/4/5 set to hardware switch (ether2 master, 3/4/5 slave). Ports 6/7/8/9 are hardware switch (ether6 master, 7/8/9 slave). *From the rb2011 it goes to the Ethernet half of the SyncInjector. *From the POE half of the SyncInjector it goes to WB gigeapc HV surge suppressors and then to the ePMP radios. Two of the ePMP radios are powered up and running gige. Neither are receiving CMM sync (top of the ePMP says Not receiving GPS sync). The remaining 6 APs aren't even powering up/linking up. Any ideas before I start swapping parts? Is it OK to have the surge between SyncInjectors and ePMP? On top of all of this the SiteMonitor isn't talking to the POE injector or the two Gig SyncInjectors. I have them all daisy chained and verified they're snapped in place. The POE injector is powering Ubnt radios just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems
DOH it is the wrong polarity, that answers sooo many questions!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 6:10 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Well if you plugged an UBNT radio into the SyncInjector, that will do it. Wrong polarity. What size fuse did you have on it? I'm putting 3A fuses on mine. Probably should just use 5A because 3A might be too small if I have four 3GHz 450APs on one injector. I think the SyncInjector solid-state overcurrent protection is 2A per port? On 11/29/2014 4:27 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Not that I'm aware of. It was one of the fuses I have between my 24vdc supply and SyncInjectors, POE injectors, MTs, SiteMonitor. All 8 other fuses were fine, not sure what made this one pop. Running all day at this point... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I’ve popped a couple SyncInjectors due to water in one of the jacks (mounted with jacks facing up, I’ll never do that again). I take it there’s a replaceable fuse inside? I’ll have to open them up and see if I can fix them. *From:* Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems So I just got back...fuse popped on that SyncInjector. Not sure why. There was a Ubnt Beam on it - the cable was moved to the POE injector and fuse replaced. SyncInjector is working as expected right now. Sure hoping Forrest can do next day shipping on Monday =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: See http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 6 blinks = power missing/too low. And yes, you need a syncpipe. -forrest On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here's a video, not sure what the blinking means? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8A-H_590 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: *rb2011 with ports 2/3/4/5 set to hardware switch (ether2 master, 3/4/5 slave). Ports 6/7/8/9 are hardware switch (ether6 master, 7/8/9 slave). *From the rb2011 it goes to the Ethernet half of the SyncInjector. *From the POE half of the SyncInjector it goes to WB gigeapc HV surge suppressors and then to the ePMP radios. Two of the ePMP radios are powered up and running gige. Neither are receiving CMM sync (top of the ePMP says Not receiving GPS sync). The remaining 6 APs aren't even powering up/linking up. Any ideas before I start swapping parts? Is it OK to have the surge between SyncInjectors and ePMP? On top of all of this the SiteMonitor isn't talking to the POE injector or the two Gig SyncInjectors. I have them all daisy chained and verified they're snapped in place. The POE injector is powering Ubnt radios just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today
If I had ramps I suppose it would be quicker. And I could personalize my filter the way I want. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 4:48 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today About the only place I'll have change the oil anymore is when I take the car in for the major service interval at the dealer. They carry the oil I use and I figure a genuine Subaru oil filter isn't any worse than the M1-108's I use normally. Other than that, it gets changed at home anymore. I've discovered that throwing a pan under the car and pulling the oil/plug filter takes so little time that it's actually faster for me to do it. I generally will do it before a trip out of town and will pull the oil filter/plug and then clean/vaccum the car out while the oil is draining. Once I'm done vaccumming, I put everything back together and refill the car with an appropriate amount of oil. Takes me less time than waiting at an instant lube place, and then I know what oil/filter is actually in/on the engine. Sadly, I haven't found anything fun drawn on my car's oil filter when it comes from the dealer. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We bring Mobil 1 oil filters in when we have the local oil change place change the oil. Last oil change, neither my car or the work van had them on their when I looked about 3000 miles after the change. After some heated discussions concerning the theft of my oil filters and shenanigans that might require a review of whether they are really using Mobil1 1 oil, they changed both vehicles while I watched them open new bottles of oil in front of me. Fortunately this was the first time I used them, and the last time. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today A local guy went out to change his oil today. Found a penis drawn on his oil filter. That filter had been installed by Jiffy Lube. Same company that billed us for an oil change a few years ago (fleet account) for a car that my business partner’s step daughter crashed and totaled a year before.
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems
Josh, Sure - let me know which one you need. I didn’t follow all of this thread. Mark On Nov 29, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Would you mind shipping it to me? I can order one from Packetflux Monday and deliver it to your address? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I have a bunch of them in the shop if you need one. Mark Radabaugh Amplex 27800 Lemoyne, Ste F Millbury, OH 43447 419-261-5996 tel:419-261-5996 On Nov 29, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: So I just got back...fuse popped on that SyncInjector. Not sure why. There was a Ubnt Beam on it - the cable was moved to the POE injector and fuse replaced. SyncInjector is working as expected right now. Sure hoping Forrest can do next day shipping on Monday =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: See http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 6 blinks = power missing/too low. And yes, you need a syncpipe. -forrest On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Here's a video, not sure what the blinking means? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8A-H_590 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8A-H_590 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: *rb2011 with ports 2/3/4/5 set to hardware switch (ether2 master, 3/4/5 slave). Ports 6/7/8/9 are hardware switch (ether6 master, 7/8/9 slave). *From the rb2011 it goes to the Ethernet half of the SyncInjector. *From the POE half of the SyncInjector it goes to WB gigeapc HV surge suppressors and then to the ePMP radios. Two of the ePMP radios are powered up and running gige. Neither are receiving CMM sync (top of the ePMP says Not receiving GPS sync). The remaining 6 APs aren't even powering up/linking up. Any ideas before I start swapping parts? Is it OK to have the surge between SyncInjectors and ePMP? On top of all of this the SiteMonitor isn't talking to the POE injector or the two Gig SyncInjectors. I have them all daisy chained and verified they're snapped in place. The POE injector is powering Ubnt radios just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems
I think just a syncpipe basic. It's just going to two syncinjectors. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2014 7:10 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Josh, Sure - let me know which one you need. I didn’t follow all of this thread. Mark On Nov 29, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Would you mind shipping it to me? I can order one from Packetflux Monday and deliver it to your address? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have a bunch of them in the shop if you need one. Mark Radabaugh Amplex 27800 Lemoyne, Ste F Millbury, OH 43447 419-261-5996 On Nov 29, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So I just got back...fuse popped on that SyncInjector. Not sure why. There was a Ubnt Beam on it - the cable was moved to the POE injector and fuse replaced. SyncInjector is working as expected right now. Sure hoping Forrest can do next day shipping on Monday =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: See http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 6 blinks = power missing/too low. And yes, you need a syncpipe. -forrest On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here's a video, not sure what the blinking means? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8A-H_590 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: *rb2011 with ports 2/3/4/5 set to hardware switch (ether2 master, 3/4/5 slave). Ports 6/7/8/9 are hardware switch (ether6 master, 7/8/9 slave). *From the rb2011 it goes to the Ethernet half of the SyncInjector. *From the POE half of the SyncInjector it goes to WB gigeapc HV surge suppressors and then to the ePMP radios. Two of the ePMP radios are powered up and running gige. Neither are receiving CMM sync (top of the ePMP says Not receiving GPS sync). The remaining 6 APs aren't even powering up/linking up. Any ideas before I start swapping parts? Is it OK to have the surge between SyncInjectors and ePMP? On top of all of this the SiteMonitor isn't talking to the POE injector or the two Gig SyncInjectors. I have them all daisy chained and verified they're snapped in place. The POE injector is powering Ubnt radios just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today
So on the Subaru engine the oil filter sticks straight up. Does that make it incredibly easy to change or incredibly messy? From: Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:48 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today About the only place I'll have change the oil anymore is when I take the car in for the major service interval at the dealer. They carry the oil I use and I figure a genuine Subaru oil filter isn't any worse than the M1-108's I use normally. Other than that, it gets changed at home anymore. I've discovered that throwing a pan under the car and pulling the oil/plug filter takes so little time that it's actually faster for me to do it. I generally will do it before a trip out of town and will pull the oil filter/plug and then clean/vaccum the car out while the oil is draining. Once I'm done vaccumming, I put everything back together and refill the car with an appropriate amount of oil. Takes me less time than waiting at an instant lube place, and then I know what oil/filter is actually in/on the engine. Sadly, I haven't found anything fun drawn on my car's oil filter when it comes from the dealer. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We bring Mobil 1 oil filters in when we have the local oil change place change the oil. Last oil change, neither my car or the work van had them on their when I looked about 3000 miles after the change. After some heated discussions concerning the theft of my oil filters and shenanigans that might require a review of whether they are really using Mobil1 1 oil, they changed both vehicles while I watched them open new bottles of oil in front of me. Fortunately this was the first time I used them, and the last time. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today A local guy went out to change his oil today. Found a penis drawn on his oil filter. That filter had been installed by Jiffy Lube. Same company that billed us for an oil change a few years ago (fleet account) for a car that my business partner’s step daughter crashed and totaled a year before.
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems
No problem - I have lots of those. If you need it before Tuesday let me know. Mark On Nov 29, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I think just a syncpipe basic. It's just going to two syncinjectors. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2014 7:10 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Josh, Sure - let me know which one you need. I didn’t follow all of this thread. Mark On Nov 29, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Would you mind shipping it to me? I can order one from Packetflux Monday and deliver it to your address? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I have a bunch of them in the shop if you need one. Mark Radabaugh Amplex 27800 Lemoyne, Ste F Millbury, OH 43447 419-261-5996 tel:419-261-5996 On Nov 29, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: So I just got back...fuse popped on that SyncInjector. Not sure why. There was a Ubnt Beam on it - the cable was moved to the POE injector and fuse replaced. SyncInjector is working as expected right now. Sure hoping Forrest can do next day shipping on Monday =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: See http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 6 blinks = power missing/too low. And yes, you need a syncpipe. -forrest On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Here's a video, not sure what the blinking means? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8A-H_590 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8A-H_590 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: *rb2011 with ports 2/3/4/5 set to hardware switch (ether2 master, 3/4/5 slave). Ports 6/7/8/9 are hardware switch (ether6 master, 7/8/9 slave). *From the rb2011 it goes to the Ethernet half of the SyncInjector. *From the POE half of the SyncInjector it goes to WB gigeapc HV surge suppressors and then to the ePMP radios. Two of the ePMP radios are powered up and running gige. Neither are receiving CMM sync (top of the ePMP says Not receiving GPS sync). The remaining 6 APs aren't even powering up/linking up. Any ideas before I start swapping parts? Is it OK to have the surge between SyncInjectors and ePMP? On top of all of this the SiteMonitor isn't talking to the POE injector or the two Gig SyncInjectors. I have them all daisy chained and verified they're snapped in place. The POE injector is powering Ubnt radios just fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today
You do the plug first... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2014 7:52 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So on the Subaru engine the oil filter sticks straight up. Does that make it incredibly easy to change or incredibly messy? *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:48 PM *To:* af af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today About the only place I'll have change the oil anymore is when I take the car in for the major service interval at the dealer. They carry the oil I use and I figure a genuine Subaru oil filter isn't any worse than the M1-108's I use normally. Other than that, it gets changed at home anymore. I've discovered that throwing a pan under the car and pulling the oil/plug filter takes so little time that it's actually faster for me to do it. I generally will do it before a trip out of town and will pull the oil filter/plug and then clean/vaccum the car out while the oil is draining. Once I'm done vaccumming, I put everything back together and refill the car with an appropriate amount of oil. Takes me less time than waiting at an instant lube place, and then I know what oil/filter is actually in/on the engine. Sadly, I haven't found anything fun drawn on my car's oil filter when it comes from the dealer. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We bring Mobil 1 oil filters in when we have the local oil change place change the oil. Last oil change, neither my car or the work van had them on their when I looked about 3000 miles after the change. After some heated discussions concerning the theft of my oil filters and shenanigans that might require a review of whether they are really using Mobil1 1 oil, they changed both vehicles while I watched them open new bottles of oil in front of me. Fortunately this was the first time I used them, and the last time. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today A local guy went out to change his oil today. Found a penis drawn on his oil filter. That filter had been installed by Jiffy Lube. Same company that billed us for an oil change a few years ago (fleet account) for a car that my business partner’s step daughter crashed and totaled a year before.
[AFMUG] IP Management
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_management What are you guys doing for IP management? Ideally, the system I used would be free, support ARIN's RESTful API, IPv4 and IPv6, building of DNS zones. The only one I've seen that does the ARIN stuff doesn't meet the free qualification. There's no price listed anywhere, only scheduling a demo. (6Connect) Trying to forge ahead with IPPlan, but there's been no updates in 4.5 years and the documentation available doesn't seem to be for the beta version that supports IPv6. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today
Our Tacomas have a filter that sticks straight up, but there's a skirt
around the base with a hole that feeds a tube that comes out down by the
oil pan. When you unscrew the filter (which is a piece of cake because
it's right there front and center), you just loosen it enough for all
the oil to drain down the tube (which you've placed an oil pan under).
When it's done, remove the rest of the way, wipe, lube, screw on the new
one.
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On 11/29/2014 4:52 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
So on the Subaru engine the oil filter sticks straight up. Does that
make it incredibly easy to change or incredibly messy?
*From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:48 PM
*To:* af mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today
About the only place I'll have change the oil anymore is when I take
the car in for the major service interval at the dealer. They carry
the oil I use and I figure a genuine Subaru oil filter isn't any worse
than the M1-108's I use normally.
Other than that, it gets changed at home anymore. I've discovered that
throwing a pan under the car and pulling the oil/plug filter takes so
little time that it's actually faster for me to do it. I generally
will do it before a trip out of town and will pull the oil filter/plug
and then clean/vaccum the car out while the oil is draining. Once
I'm done vaccumming, I put everything back together and refill the car
with an appropriate amount of oil. Takes me less time than waiting at
an instant lube place, and then I know what oil/filter is actually
in/on the engine.
Sadly, I haven't found anything fun drawn on my car's oil filter when
it comes from the dealer.
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
We bring Mobil 1 oil filters in when we have the local oil change
place change the oil. Last oil change, neither my car or the work
van had them on their when I looked about 3000 miles after the
change. After some heated discussions concerning the theft of my
oil filters and shenanigans that might require a review of whether
they are really using Mobil1 1 oil, they changed both vehicles
while I watched them open new bottles of oil in front of me.
Fortunately this was the first time I used them, and the last time.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af
*Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:27 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today
A local guy went out to change his oil today. Found a penis drawn
on his oil filter. That filter had been installed by Jiffy Lube.
Same company that billed us for an oil change a few years ago
(fleet account) for a car that my business partner’s step daughter
crashed and totaled a year before.
Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today
http://www.fumotousa.com/about-fumoto-valves.php On Nov 29, 2014 5:01 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: You do the plug first... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2014 7:52 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So on the Subaru engine the oil filter sticks straight up. Does that make it incredibly easy to change or incredibly messy? *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:48 PM *To:* af af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today About the only place I'll have change the oil anymore is when I take the car in for the major service interval at the dealer. They carry the oil I use and I figure a genuine Subaru oil filter isn't any worse than the M1-108's I use normally. Other than that, it gets changed at home anymore. I've discovered that throwing a pan under the car and pulling the oil/plug filter takes so little time that it's actually faster for me to do it. I generally will do it before a trip out of town and will pull the oil filter/plug and then clean/vaccum the car out while the oil is draining. Once I'm done vaccumming, I put everything back together and refill the car with an appropriate amount of oil. Takes me less time than waiting at an instant lube place, and then I know what oil/filter is actually in/on the engine. Sadly, I haven't found anything fun drawn on my car's oil filter when it comes from the dealer. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We bring Mobil 1 oil filters in when we have the local oil change place change the oil. Last oil change, neither my car or the work van had them on their when I looked about 3000 miles after the change. After some heated discussions concerning the theft of my oil filters and shenanigans that might require a review of whether they are really using Mobil1 1 oil, they changed both vehicles while I watched them open new bottles of oil in front of me. Fortunately this was the first time I used them, and the last time. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today A local guy went out to change his oil today. Found a penis drawn on his oil filter. That filter had been installed by Jiffy Lube. Same company that billed us for an oil change a few years ago (fleet account) for a car that my business partner’s step daughter crashed and totaled a year before.
Re: [AFMUG] IP Management
Do you know how much 6Connect is? It doesn't have to be free, but anything that's enterprise or carrier is going to be priced above my willingness to pay. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Baird via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:06:47 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Management 6Connect is good. Men Mice is also good (but doesn't SWIP or do ARIN). Solarwinds also has an IPAM offering. There really isn't a good -free- solution that I know of (especially one that hasn't turned to vaporware). Many people will suggest IPPlan, but I hated it (although it can be easily customized and/or modified if you have any PHP clue). Josh On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_management What are you guys doing for IP management? Ideally, the system I used would be free, support ARIN's RESTful API, IPv4 and IPv6, building of DNS zones. The only one I've seen that does the ARIN stuff doesn't meet the free qualification. There's no price listed anywhere, only scheduling a demo. (6Connect) Trying to forge ahead with IPPlan, but there's been no updates in 4.5 years and the documentation available doesn't seem to be for the beta version that supports IPv6. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] IP Management
I seem to remember the Solarwinds pricing was ridiculous, like thousands of dollars or something, am I thinking of something else? From: Josh Baird via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Management 6Connect is good. Men Mice is also good (but doesn't SWIP or do ARIN). Solarwinds also has an IPAM offering. There really isn't a good -free- solution that I know of (especially one that hasn't turned to vaporware). Many people will suggest IPPlan, but I hated it (although it can be easily customized and/or modified if you have any PHP clue). Josh On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_management What are you guys doing for IP management? Ideally, the system I used would be free, support ARIN's RESTful API, IPv4 and IPv6, building of DNS zones. The only one I've seen that does the ARIN stuff doesn't meet the free qualification. There's no price listed anywhere, only scheduling a demo. (6Connect) Trying to forge ahead with IPPlan, but there's been no updates in 4.5 years and the documentation available doesn't seem to be for the beta version that supports IPv6. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] IP Management
It's a couple years old, but ProVision Suite starts at around $60,000 per year for a 15,000-node network, with prices increasing for larger networks. Does the price decrease for smaller networks... like less than 10% of that size? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Baird via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:06:47 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Management 6Connect is good. Men Mice is also good (but doesn't SWIP or do ARIN). Solarwinds also has an IPAM offering. There really isn't a good -free- solution that I know of (especially one that hasn't turned to vaporware). Many people will suggest IPPlan, but I hated it (although it can be easily customized and/or modified if you have any PHP clue). Josh On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_management What are you guys doing for IP management? Ideally, the system I used would be free, support ARIN's RESTful API, IPv4 and IPv6, building of DNS zones. The only one I've seen that does the ARIN stuff doesn't meet the free qualification. There's no price listed anywhere, only scheduling a demo. (6Connect) Trying to forge ahead with IPPlan, but there's been no updates in 4.5 years and the documentation available doesn't seem to be for the beta version that supports IPv6. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] IP Management
Don't you have some Cambium stuff? :) josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 11/29/2014 04:12 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: Do you know how much 6Connect is? It doesn't have to be free, but anything that's enterprise or carrier is going to be priced above my willingness to pay. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Josh Baird via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:06:47 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IP Management 6Connect is good. Men Mice is also good (but doesn't SWIP or do ARIN). Solarwinds also has an IPAM offering. There really isn't a good -free- solution that I know of (especially one that hasn't turned to vaporware). Many people will suggest IPPlan, but I hated it (although it can be easily customized and/or modified if you have any PHP clue). Josh On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_management What are you guys doing for IP management? Ideally, the system I used would be free, support ARIN's RESTful API, IPv4 and IPv6, building of DNS zones. The only one I've seen that does the ARIN stuff doesn't meet the free qualification. There's no price listed anywhere, only scheduling a demo. (6Connect) Trying to forge ahead with IPPlan, but there's been no updates in 4.5 years and the documentation available doesn't seem to be for the beta version that supports IPv6. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
I only spent dos años en la Argentina and that was a long time ago (1965-1967), but when I see “lluvia” I still pronounce it like “usual” or “Zsa Zsa Gabor”. From: Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:45 PM To: mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta Example: Lluvia Eeuveea Or Juveea (Ju like junior) In PR we go by Ju Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That is the way I am taking it. I have always said eah ves (that is a bit exaggerated). yaw Like an airplane turning without banking. From: Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:25 PM To: mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta I'm thinking Y as in Young and Yes.. Like a long E sound. Do I have this wrong? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Well we would say it more like yaves. Ya like c'ya and ves like vest Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 11:26 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: More like J sound Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So, llaves. The double L. English J sound or English Y sound? We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] IP Management
Yeah, IPPlan is old, but it works. On 11/29/2014 7:06 PM, Josh Baird via Af wrote: 6Connect is good. Men Mice is also good (but doesn't SWIP or do ARIN). Solarwinds also has an IPAM offering. There really isn't a good -free- solution that I know of (especially one that hasn't turned to vaporware). Many people will suggest IPPlan, but I hated it (although it can be easily customized and/or modified if you have any PHP clue). Josh On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_management What are you guys doing for IP management? Ideally, the system I used would be free, support ARIN's RESTful API, IPv4 and IPv6, building of DNS zones. The only one I've seen that does the ARIN stuff doesn't meet the free qualification. There's no price listed anywhere, only scheduling a demo. (6Connect) Trying to forge ahead with IPPlan, but there's been no updates in 4.5 years and the documentation available doesn't seem to be for the beta version that supports IPv6. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
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It's been a few years since I demoed it, but I believe they had a free (probably crippled) version at one time. Enterprise IPAM products are NOT cheap (and probably are way more involved than what you are looking for), which is why many smaller companies/providers typically use something like a spreadsheet or IPPlan. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It's a couple years old, but ProVision Suite starts at around $60,000 per year for a 15,000-node network, with prices increasing for larger networks. Does the price decrease for smaller networks... like less than 10% of that size? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Baird via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:06:47 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IP Management 6Connect is good. Men Mice is also good (but doesn't SWIP or do ARIN). Solarwinds also has an IPAM offering. There really isn't a good -free- solution that I know of (especially one that hasn't turned to vaporware). Many people will suggest IPPlan, but I hated it (although it can be easily customized and/or modified if you have any PHP clue). Josh On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_management What are you guys doing for IP management? Ideally, the system I used would be free, support ARIN's RESTful API, IPv4 and IPv6, building of DNS zones. The only one I've seen that does the ARIN stuff doesn't meet the free qualification. There's no price listed anywhere, only scheduling a demo. (6Connect) Trying to forge ahead with IPPlan, but there's been no updates in 4.5 years and the documentation available doesn't seem to be for the beta version that supports IPv6. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
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Yeah, I've had IPPlan for ~4 years, but as I start to do more than simple inventory of IPs, it doesn't seem to work and I have no feedback as to why. I figured before I delved too far into it I should circle around to see what else was out there. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Baird via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:49:24 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Management It's been a few years since I demoed it, but I believe they had a free (probably crippled) version at one time. Enterprise IPAM products are NOT cheap (and probably are way more involved than what you are looking for), which is why many smaller companies/providers typically use something like a spreadsheet or IPPlan. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It's a couple years old, but ProVision Suite starts at around $60,000 per year for a 15,000-node network, with prices increasing for larger networks. Does the price decrease for smaller networks... like less than 10% of that size? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Josh Baird via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:06:47 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Management 6Connect is good. Men Mice is also good (but doesn't SWIP or do ARIN). Solarwinds also has an IPAM offering. There really isn't a good -free- solution that I know of (especially one that hasn't turned to vaporware). Many people will suggest IPPlan, but I hated it (although it can be easily customized and/or modified if you have any PHP clue). Josh On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: blockquote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_management What are you guys doing for IP management? Ideally, the system I used would be free, support ARIN's RESTful API, IPv4 and IPv6, building of DNS zones. The only one I've seen that does the ARIN stuff doesn't meet the free qualification. There's no price listed anywhere, only scheduling a demo. (6Connect) Trying to forge ahead with IPPlan, but there's been no updates in 4.5 years and the documentation available doesn't seem to be for the beta version that supports IPv6. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today
The biggest problem with home oil changes is getting rid of the oil. I used to do it but every time I would go to Auto Zone, Checker, etc… Their oil drum was always full. I finally gave up and just get the free car wash when I do it. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 6:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today http://www.fumotousa.com/about-fumoto-valves.php On Nov 29, 2014 5:01 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: You do the plug first... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2014 7:52 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So on the Subaru engine the oil filter sticks straight up. Does that make it incredibly easy to change or incredibly messy? From: Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:48 PM To: af mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today About the only place I'll have change the oil anymore is when I take the car in for the major service interval at the dealer. They carry the oil I use and I figure a genuine Subaru oil filter isn't any worse than the M1-108's I use normally. Other than that, it gets changed at home anymore. I've discovered that throwing a pan under the car and pulling the oil/plug filter takes so little time that it's actually faster for me to do it. I generally will do it before a trip out of town and will pull the oil filter/plug and then clean/vaccum the car out while the oil is draining. Once I'm done vaccumming, I put everything back together and refill the car with an appropriate amount of oil. Takes me less time than waiting at an instant lube place, and then I know what oil/filter is actually in/on the engine. Sadly, I haven't found anything fun drawn on my car's oil filter when it comes from the dealer. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We bring Mobil 1 oil filters in when we have the local oil change place change the oil. Last oil change, neither my car or the work van had them on their when I looked about 3000 miles after the change. After some heated discussions concerning the theft of my oil filters and shenanigans that might require a review of whether they are really using Mobil1 1 oil, they changed both vehicles while I watched them open new bottles of oil in front of me. Fortunately this was the first time I used them, and the last time. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today A local guy went out to change his oil today. Found a penis drawn on his oil filter. That filter had been installed by Jiffy Lube. Same company that billed us for an oil change a few years ago (fleet account) for a car that my business partner’s step daughter crashed and totaled a year before.
Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today
Call your local oil distributor. For our fleet we buy our oil in 30 and 55 gallon drums for about $6-7 per gallon and they buy back our waste oil for $0.90 a gallon. Keefe On 11/29/2014 8:15 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: The biggest problem with home oil changes is getting rid of the oil. I used to do it but every time I would go to Auto Zone, Checker, etc… Their oil drum was always full. I finally gave up and just get the free car wash when I do it. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout via Af *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 6:09 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today http://www.fumotousa.com/about-fumoto-valves.php On Nov 29, 2014 5:01 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: You do the plug first... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2014 7:52 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: So on the Subaru engine the oil filter sticks straight up. Does that make it incredibly easy to change or incredibly messy? *From:*Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:*Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:48 PM *To:*af mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today About the only place I'll have change the oil anymore is when I take the car in for the major service interval at the dealer. They carry the oil I use and I figure a genuine Subaru oil filter isn't any worse than the M1-108's I use normally. Other than that, it gets changed at home anymore. I've discovered that throwing a pan under the car and pulling the oil/plug filter takes so little time that it's actually faster for me to do it. I generally will do it before a trip out of town and will pull the oil filter/plug and then clean/vaccum the car out while the oil is draining. Once I'm done vaccumming, I put everything back together and refill the car with an appropriate amount of oil. Takes me less time than waiting at an instant lube place, and then I know what oil/filter is actually in/on the engine. Sadly, I haven't found anything fun drawn on my car's oil filter when it comes from the dealer. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: We bring Mobil 1 oil filters in when we have the local oil change place change the oil. Last oil change, neither my car or the work van had them on their when I looked about 3000 miles after the change. After some heated discussions concerning the theft of my oil filters and shenanigans that might require a review of whether they are really using Mobil1 1 oil, they changed both vehicles while I watched them open new bottles of oil in front of me. Fortunately this was the first time I used them, and the last time. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today A local guy went out to change his oil today. Found a penis drawn on his oil filter. That filter had been installed by Jiffy Lube. Same company that billed us for an oil change a few years ago (fleet account) for a car that my business partner’s step daughter crashed and totaled a year before.
Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today
We have a used oil drum that someone comes by and collects for their furnace. I think ours holds 500 gallons of oil. I think our biggest oil change is 44 quarts. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:15:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today The biggest problem with home oil changes is getting rid of the oil. I used to do it but every time I would go to Auto Zone, Checker, etc… Their oil drum was always full. I finally gave up and just get the free car wash when I do it. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 6:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today http://www.fumotousa.com/about-fumoto-valves.php On Nov 29, 2014 5:01 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: You do the plug first... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2014 7:52 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So on the Subaru engine the oil filter sticks straight up. Does that make it incredibly easy to change or incredibly messy? From: Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:48 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today About the only place I'll have change the oil anymore is when I take the car in for the major service interval at the dealer. They carry the oil I use and I figure a genuine Subaru oil filter isn't any worse than the M1-108's I use normally. Other than that, it gets changed at home anymore. I've discovered that throwing a pan under the car and pulling the oil/plug filter takes so little time that it's actually faster for me to do it. I generally will do it before a trip out of town and will pull the oil filter/plug and then clean/vaccum the car out while the oil is draining. Once I'm done vaccumming, I put everything back together and refill the car with an appropriate amount of oil. Takes me less time than waiting at an instant lube place, and then I know what oil/filter is actually in/on the engine. Sadly, I haven't found anything fun drawn on my car's oil filter when it comes from the dealer. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We bring Mobil 1 oil filters in when we have the local oil change place change the oil. Last oil change, neither my car or the work van had them on their when I looked about 3000 miles after the change. After some heated discussions concerning the theft of my oil filters and shenanigans that might require a review of whether they are really using Mobil1 1 oil, they changed both vehicles while I watched them open new bottles of oil in front of me. Fortunately this was the first time I used them, and the last time. Rory From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today A local guy went out to change his oil today. Found a penis drawn on his oil filter. That filter had been installed by Jiffy Lube. Same company that billed us for an oil change a few years ago (fleet account) for a car that my business partner’s step daughter crashed and totaled a year before.
Re: [AFMUG] IP Management
On 11/29/2014 07:06 PM, Josh Baird via Af wrote: 6Connect is good. Men Mice is also good (but doesn't SWIP or do ARIN). Solarwinds also has an IPAM offering. There really isn't a good -free- solution that I know of (especially one that hasn't turned to vaporware). Many people will suggest IPPlan, but I hated it (although it can be easily customized and/or modified if you have any PHP clue). I wasn't impressed with IPPlan, either. HaCi is another free option that may do what you want. I haven't looked at it recently, so I can't even recall all the features of it at the moment. -- Butch Evans 702-537-0979 Network Support and Engineering http://store.wispgear.net/ http://www.butchevans.com/
Re: [AFMUG] IP Management
All of the above. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:59:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Management How much public IP space do you guys have? Seems kind of like a first world problem, if you know what I mean. Or are you talking about managing private IP space in a large enterprise network? That can be a mess, but you mentioned ARIN, so I assumed you meant public addresses. Or maybe you are worried about IPv6 space where lightbulbs get their own addresses? Oh crap, do we have to SWIP all the addresses we assign to the Internet of Things? -Original Message- From: Butch Evans via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Management On 11/29/2014 07:06 PM, Josh Baird via Af wrote: 6Connect is good. Men Mice is also good (but doesn't SWIP or do ARIN). Solarwinds also has an IPAM offering. There really isn't a good -free- solution that I know of (especially one that hasn't turned to vaporware). Many people will suggest IPPlan, but I hated it (although it can be easily customized and/or modified if you have any PHP clue). I wasn't impressed with IPPlan, either. HaCi is another free option that may do what you want. I haven't looked at it recently, so I can't even recall all the features of it at the moment. -- Butch Evans 702-537-0979 Network Support and Engineering http://store.wispgear.net/ http://www.butchevans.com/
Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today
When I was a kid we just dumped in woods behind the house but someone decided that was environmentally unfriendly. Rory Conaway via Af wrote: The biggest problem with home oil changes is getting rid of the oil. I used to do it but every time I would go to Auto Zone, Checker, etc… Their oil drum was always full. I finally gave up and just get the free car wash when I do it. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout via Af *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 6:09 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today http://www.fumotousa.com/about-fumoto-valves.php On Nov 29, 2014 5:01 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: You do the plug first... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2014 7:52 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: So on the Subaru engine the oil filter sticks straight up. Does that make it incredibly easy to change or incredibly messy? *From:*Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:*Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:48 PM *To:*af mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today About the only place I'll have change the oil anymore is when I take the car in for the major service interval at the dealer. They carry the oil I use and I figure a genuine Subaru oil filter isn't any worse than the M1-108's I use normally. Other than that, it gets changed at home anymore. I've discovered that throwing a pan under the car and pulling the oil/plug filter takes so little time that it's actually faster for me to do it. I generally will do it before a trip out of town and will pull the oil filter/plug and then clean/vaccum the car out while the oil is draining. Once I'm done vaccumming, I put everything back together and refill the car with an appropriate amount of oil. Takes me less time than waiting at an instant lube place, and then I know what oil/filter is actually in/on the engine. Sadly, I haven't found anything fun drawn on my car's oil filter when it comes from the dealer. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: We bring Mobil 1 oil filters in when we have the local oil change place change the oil. Last oil change, neither my car or the work van had them on their when I looked about 3000 miles after the change. After some heated discussions concerning the theft of my oil filters and shenanigans that might require a review of whether they are really using Mobil1 1 oil, they changed both vehicles while I watched them open new bottles of oil in front of me. Fortunately this was the first time I used them, and the last time. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today A local guy went out to change his oil today. Found a penis drawn on his oil filter. That filter had been installed by Jiffy Lube. Same company that billed us for an oil change a few years ago (fleet account) for a car that my business partner’s step daughter crashed and totaled a year before.
Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today
It took me a minute to realize when you said you dumped in the woods, you were referring to oil. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 9:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today When I was a kid we just dumped in woods behind the house but someone decided that was environmentally unfriendly. Rory Conaway via Af wrote: The biggest problem with home oil changes is getting rid of the oil. I used to do it but every time I would go to Auto Zone, Checker, etc… Their oil drum was always full. I finally gave up and just get the free car wash when I do it. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout via Af *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 6:09 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today http://www.fumotousa.com/about-fumoto-valves.php On Nov 29, 2014 5:01 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: You do the plug first... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2014 7:52 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: So on the Subaru engine the oil filter sticks straight up. Does that make it incredibly easy to change or incredibly messy? *From:*Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:*Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:48 PM *To:*af mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today About the only place I'll have change the oil anymore is when I take the car in for the major service interval at the dealer. They carry the oil I use and I figure a genuine Subaru oil filter isn't any worse than the M1-108's I use normally. Other than that, it gets changed at home anymore. I've discovered that throwing a pan under the car and pulling the oil/plug filter takes so little time that it's actually faster for me to do it. I generally will do it before a trip out of town and will pull the oil filter/plug and then clean/vaccum the car out while the oil is draining. Once I'm done vaccumming, I put everything back together and refill the car with an appropriate amount of oil. Takes me less time than waiting at an instant lube place, and then I know what oil/filter is actually in/on the engine. Sadly, I haven't found anything fun drawn on my car's oil filter when it comes from the dealer. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: We bring Mobil 1 oil filters in when we have the local oil change place change the oil. Last oil change, neither my car or the work van had them on their when I looked about 3000 miles after the change. After some heated discussions concerning the theft of my oil filters and shenanigans that might require a review of whether they are really using Mobil1 1 oil, they changed both vehicles while I watched them open new bottles of oil in front of me. Fortunately this was the first time I used them, and the last time. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today A local guy went out to change his oil today. Found a penis drawn on his oil filter. That filter had been installed by Jiffy Lube. Same company that billed us for an oil change a few years ago (fleet account) for a car that my business partner’s step daughter crashed and totaled a year before.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta
Exactly! Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I only spent dos años en la Argentina and that was a long time ago (1965-1967), but when I see “lluvia” I still pronounce it like “usual” or “Zsa Zsa Gabor”. From: Gino Villarini via Afmailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:45 PM To: mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta Example: Lluvia Eeuveea Or Juveea (Ju like junior) In PR we go by Ju Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: That is the way I am taking it. I have always said eah ves (that is a bit exaggerated). yaw Like an airplane turning without banking. From: Gino Villarini via Afmailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:25 PM To: mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta I'm thinking Y as in Young and Yes.. Like a long E sound. Do I have this wrong? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Well we would say it more like yaves. Ya like c'ya and ves like vest Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 11:26 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: More like J sound Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: So, llaves. The double L. English J sound or English Y sound? We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.
Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today
Whoops. Looks like I left out an it. I'm distracting myself from a nerve wracking Alabama/Auburn game. Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: It took me a minute to realize when you said you dumped in the woods, you were referring to oil. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 9:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today When I was a kid we just dumped in woods behind the house but someone decided that was environmentally unfriendly. Rory Conaway via Af wrote: The biggest problem with home oil changes is getting rid of the oil. I used to do it but every time I would go to Auto Zone, Checker, etc… Their oil drum was always full. I finally gave up and just get the free car wash when I do it. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout via Af *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 6:09 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today http://www.fumotousa.com/about-fumoto-valves.php On Nov 29, 2014 5:01 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: You do the plug first... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2014 7:52 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: So on the Subaru engine the oil filter sticks straight up. Does that make it incredibly easy to change or incredibly messy? *From:*Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:*Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:48 PM *To:*af mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today About the only place I'll have change the oil anymore is when I take the car in for the major service interval at the dealer. They carry the oil I use and I figure a genuine Subaru oil filter isn't any worse than the M1-108's I use normally. Other than that, it gets changed at home anymore. I've discovered that throwing a pan under the car and pulling the oil/plug filter takes so little time that it's actually faster for me to do it. I generally will do it before a trip out of town and will pull the oil filter/plug and then clean/vaccum the car out while the oil is draining. Once I'm done vaccumming, I put everything back together and refill the car with an appropriate amount of oil. Takes me less time than waiting at an instant lube place, and then I know what oil/filter is actually in/on the engine. Sadly, I haven't found anything fun drawn on my car's oil filter when it comes from the dealer. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: We bring Mobil 1 oil filters in when we have the local oil change place change the oil. Last oil change, neither my car or the work van had them on their when I looked about 3000 miles after the change. After some heated discussions concerning the theft of my oil filters and shenanigans that might require a review of whether they are really using Mobil1 1 oil, they changed both vehicles while I watched them open new bottles of oil in front of me. Fortunately this was the first time I used them, and the last time. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today A local guy went out to change his oil today. Found a penis drawn on his oil filter. That filter had been installed by Jiffy Lube. Same company that billed us for an oil change a few years ago (fleet account) for a car that my business partner’s step daughter crashed and totaled a year before.
Re: [AFMUG] IP Management
I use IP management software called “Excel”. It is not free, but I hear of alternatives called “Open Office” and “Google Docs”. From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 9:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Management All of the above. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:59:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Management How much public IP space do you guys have? Seems kind of like a first world problem, if you know what I mean. Or are you talking about managing private IP space in a large enterprise network? That can be a mess, but you mentioned ARIN, so I assumed you meant public addresses. Or maybe you are worried about IPv6 space where lightbulbs get their own addresses? Oh crap, do we have to SWIP all the addresses we assign to the Internet of Things? -Original Message- From: Butch Evans via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Management On 11/29/2014 07:06 PM, Josh Baird via Af wrote: 6Connect is good. Men Mice is also good (but doesn't SWIP or do ARIN). Solarwinds also has an IPAM offering. There really isn't a good -free- solution that I know of (especially one that hasn't turned to vaporware). Many people will suggest IPPlan, but I hated it (although it can be easily customized and/or modified if you have any PHP clue). I wasn't impressed with IPPlan, either. HaCi is another free option that may do what you want. I haven't looked at it recently, so I can't even recall all the features of it at the moment. -- Butch Evans 702-537-0979 Network Support and Engineering http://store.wispgear.net/ http://www.butchevans.com/
Re: [AFMUG] OT Grow Room
the first thing you want to do chuck, is bypass you electrical meter now, you need to go to the gun store and get multiple semiautomatic weapons go to the animal shelter and get 3-5 pit bulls do not shave probably bet to purchase alot of flipflops and boxer shorts you will wear as actual shorts its up to you which tatoos to get, but there needs to be at least two grammatical errors and three misspellings break out your front left top tooth a mullet is fully in order but seriously, I never had hydro, but lightwise i always did 12/12. with lights On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Believe me. Tommy Chong will smoke it Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 10:18 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Got my turbo cloner yesterday. Almost zero instructions. Do you just let these things spray 2/7? Do you cycle the lights? I figured there had to be at least one hydroponic person here... (Don’t get excited, that Mormon guy is attempting to clone spruce trees...) -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] IP Management
I have tried Haci and had some difficulty understanding it clearly but I have used Racktables for a while and its been a great help. I am still tailoring the racks and hardware stuff but its great for keeping up with ips both v4 and v6 It seems to be one that is still maintained also. Using a radius server with a nice gui to auto provision dns or other objects would be cool. On 11/29/2014 7:02 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_management What are you guys doing for IP management? Ideally, the system I used would be free, support ARIN's RESTful API, IPv4 and IPv6, building of DNS zones. The only one I've seen that does the ARIN stuff doesn't meet the free qualification. There's no price listed anywhere, only scheduling a demo. (6Connect) Trying to forge ahead with IPPlan, but there's been no updates in 4.5 years and the documentation available doesn't seem to be for the beta version that supports IPv6. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com --
Re: [AFMUG] IP Management
Ken, We used to do that up until a few years ago and we have moved on LOL I have had so many spread sheets that have since moved into automation of today and now the cloud(still a mystery) LOL Easy to do get a LAMP stack server and roll with it. On 11/29/2014 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: I use IP management software called “Excel”. It is not free, but I hear of alternatives called “Open Office” and “Google Docs”. *From:* Mike Hammett via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 9:02 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IP Management All of the above. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:59:15 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IP Management How much public IP space do you guys have? Seems kind of like a first world problem, if you know what I mean. Or are you talking about managing private IP space in a large enterprise network? That can be a mess, but you mentioned ARIN, so I assumed you meant public addresses. Or maybe you are worried about IPv6 space where lightbulbs get their own addresses? Oh crap, do we have to SWIP all the addresses we assign to the Internet of Things? -Original Message- From: Butch Evans via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Management On 11/29/2014 07:06 PM, Josh Baird via Af wrote: 6Connect is good. Men Mice is also good (but doesn't SWIP or do ARIN). Solarwinds also has an IPAM offering. There really isn't a good -free- solution that I know of (especially one that hasn't turned to vaporware). Many people will suggest IPPlan, but I hated it (although it can be easily customized and/or modified if you have any PHP clue). I wasn't impressed with IPPlan, either. HaCi is another free option that may do what you want. I haven't looked at it recently, so I can't even recall all the features of it at the moment. -- Butch Evans 702-537-0979 Network Support and Engineering http://store.wispgear.net/ http://www.butchevans.com/ --
Re: [AFMUG] IP Management
Google Sheets for me Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2014 11:44 PM, David Milholen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ken, We used to do that up until a few years ago and we have moved on LOL I have had so many spread sheets that have since moved into automation of today and now the cloud(still a mystery) LOL Easy to do get a LAMP stack server and roll with it. On 11/29/2014 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: I use IP management software called “Excel”. It is not free, but I hear of alternatives called “Open Office” and “Google Docs”. *From:* Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 9:02 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IP Management All of the above. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:59:15 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IP Management How much public IP space do you guys have? Seems kind of like a first world problem, if you know what I mean. Or are you talking about managing private IP space in a large enterprise network? That can be a mess, but you mentioned ARIN, so I assumed you meant public addresses. Or maybe you are worried about IPv6 space where lightbulbs get their own addresses? Oh crap, do we have to SWIP all the addresses we assign to the Internet of Things? -Original Message- From: Butch Evans via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Management On 11/29/2014 07:06 PM, Josh Baird via Af wrote: 6Connect is good. Men Mice is also good (but doesn't SWIP or do ARIN). Solarwinds also has an IPAM offering. There really isn't a good -free- solution that I know of (especially one that hasn't turned to vaporware). Many people will suggest IPPlan, but I hated it (although it can be easily customized and/or modified if you have any PHP clue). I wasn't impressed with IPPlan, either. HaCi is another free option that may do what you want. I haven't looked at it recently, so I can't even recall all the features of it at the moment. -- Butch Evans 702-537-0979 Network Support and Engineering http://store.wispgear.net/ http://www.butchevans.com/ --
Re: [AFMUG] IP Management
racktables is relaly cool, though i question long term support. We have one of our contract customers that hired a full time IT guy, we sent him a racktables VM, this is a multis site customer, with multiple racks mixing POE VLAN multiple providers. One huge problem was we never go to the out of state sites, documentation on ports was always lacking and site disasters always ended up with stuff where it belonged, this should help to resolve that But for simple subnet management and documentation there is zero easy product out there, everything is full IPAM or Excel. Ive been looking for something other than a spreadsheet to keep tract of the subnets, and where I put them, whats available next. PITA to say the least. Other than a spreadsheed, theres not much that scales down to just the subnets divisions, if you dont care about the hosts. and every one of them results an a sales call within 5 minites of submission if you put your real info. Its like, seriously motherfu%%er, I just downloaded it, do you think I have it installed and tested yet enough to tell the boss to cut you a 10k check? On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 10:44 PM, David Milholen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ken, We used to do that up until a few years ago and we have moved on LOL I have had so many spread sheets that have since moved into automation of today and now the cloud(still a mystery) LOL Easy to do get a LAMP stack server and roll with it. On 11/29/2014 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: I use IP management software called “Excel”. It is not free, but I hear of alternatives called “Open Office” and “Google Docs”. *From:* Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 9:02 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IP Management All of the above. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:59:15 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IP Management How much public IP space do you guys have? Seems kind of like a first world problem, if you know what I mean. Or are you talking about managing private IP space in a large enterprise network? That can be a mess, but you mentioned ARIN, so I assumed you meant public addresses. Or maybe you are worried about IPv6 space where lightbulbs get their own addresses? Oh crap, do we have to SWIP all the addresses we assign to the Internet of Things? -Original Message- From: Butch Evans via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Management On 11/29/2014 07:06 PM, Josh Baird via Af wrote: 6Connect is good. Men Mice is also good (but doesn't SWIP or do ARIN). Solarwinds also has an IPAM offering. There really isn't a good -free- solution that I know of (especially one that hasn't turned to vaporware). Many people will suggest IPPlan, but I hated it (although it can be easily customized and/or modified if you have any PHP clue). I wasn't impressed with IPPlan, either. HaCi is another free option that may do what you want. I haven't looked at it recently, so I can't even recall all the features of it at the moment. -- Butch Evans 702-537-0979 Network Support and Engineering http://store.wispgear.net/ http://www.butchevans.com/ -- -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today
Chucl is going to decide to change his oil, WB will end up with a line of filters On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Whoops. Looks like I left out an it. I'm distracting myself from a nerve wracking Alabama/Auburn game. Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: It took me a minute to realize when you said you dumped in the woods, you were referring to oil. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 9:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today When I was a kid we just dumped in woods behind the house but someone decided that was environmentally unfriendly. Rory Conaway via Af wrote: The biggest problem with home oil changes is getting rid of the oil. I used to do it but every time I would go to Auto Zone, Checker, etc… Their oil drum was always full. I finally gave up and just get the free car wash when I do it. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout via Af *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 6:09 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today http://www.fumotousa.com/about-fumoto-valves.php On Nov 29, 2014 5:01 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto: af@afmug.com wrote: You do the plug first... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2014 7:52 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com mailto: af@afmug.com wrote: So on the Subaru engine the oil filter sticks straight up. Does that make it incredibly easy to change or incredibly messy? *From:*Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:*Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:48 PM *To:*af mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today About the only place I'll have change the oil anymore is when I take the car in for the major service interval at the dealer. They carry the oil I use and I figure a genuine Subaru oil filter isn't any worse than the M1-108's I use normally. Other than that, it gets changed at home anymore. I've discovered that throwing a pan under the car and pulling the oil/plug filter takes so little time that it's actually faster for me to do it. I generally will do it before a trip out of town and will pull the oil filter/plug and then clean/vaccum the car out while the oil is draining. Once I'm done vaccumming, I put everything back together and refill the car with an appropriate amount of oil. Takes me less time than waiting at an instant lube place, and then I know what oil/filter is actually in/on the engine. Sadly, I haven't found anything fun drawn on my car's oil filter when it comes from the dealer. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: We bring Mobil 1 oil filters in when we have the local oil change place change the oil. Last oil change, neither my car or the work van had them on their when I looked about 3000 miles after the change. After some heated discussions concerning the theft of my oil filters and shenanigans that might require a review of whether they are really using Mobil1 1 oil, they changed both vehicles while I watched them open new bottles of oil in front of me. Fortunately this was the first time I used them, and the last time. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today A local guy went out to change his oil today. Found a penis drawn on his oil filter. That filter had been installed by Jiffy Lube. Same company that billed us for an oil change a few years ago (fleet account) for a car that my business partner’s step daughter crashed and totaled a year before. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today
He is from Alabama :) Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Jay Weekley via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today Date: Sat, Nov 29, 2014 9:25 PM Whoops. Looks like I left out an it. I'm distracting myself from a nerve wracking Alabama/Auburn game. Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: It took me a minute to realize when you said you dumped in the woods, you were referring to oil. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 9:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today When I was a kid we just dumped in woods behind the house but someone decided that was environmentally unfriendly. Rory Conaway via Af wrote: The biggest problem with home oil changes is getting rid of the oil. I used to do it but every time I would go to Auto Zone, Checker, etc… Their oil drum was always full. I finally gave up and just get the free car wash when I do it. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout via Af *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 6:09 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today http://www.fumotousa.com/about-fumoto-valves.php On Nov 29, 2014 5:01 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: You do the plug first... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2014 7:52 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: So on the Subaru engine the oil filter sticks straight up. Does that make it incredibly easy to change or incredibly messy? *From:*Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:*Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:48 PM *To:*af mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today About the only place I'll have change the oil anymore is when I take the car in for the major service interval at the dealer. They carry the oil I use and I figure a genuine Subaru oil filter isn't any worse than the M1-108's I use normally. Other than that, it gets changed at home anymore. I've discovered that throwing a pan under the car and pulling the oil/plug filter takes so little time that it's actually faster for me to do it. I generally will do it before a trip out of town and will pull the oil filter/plug and then clean/vaccum the car out while the oil is draining. Once I'm done vaccumming, I put everything back together and refill the car with an appropriate amount of oil. Takes me less time than waiting at an instant lube place, and then I know what oil/filter is actually in/on the engine. Sadly, I haven't found anything fun drawn on my car's oil filter when it comes from the dealer. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: We bring Mobil 1 oil filters in when we have the local oil change place change the oil. Last oil change, neither my car or the work van had them on their when I looked about 3000 miles after the change. After some heated discussions concerning the theft of my oil filters and shenanigans that might require a review of whether they are really using Mobil1 1 oil, they changed both vehicles while I watched them open new bottles of oil in front of me. Fortunately this was the first time I used them, and the last time. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via Af *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today A local guy went out to change his oil today. Found a penis drawn on his oil filter. That filter had been installed by Jiffy Lube. Same company that billed us for an oil change a few years ago (fleet account) for a car that my business partner’s step daughter crashed and totaled a year before.
Re: [AFMUG] IP Management
Simple hierarchical IP management is what IPPlan does. It might be old and ugly, but it's better than a spreadsheet. And it also has an audit log so I can see who changed/added/deleted what. I have no reason to move away from it, at least right now. If I'm going to do something different, it will be custom integrated with RADIUS to act as provisioning and DHCP backend. Too much shit to do right now to tackle that. On 11/29/2014 11:04 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: racktables is relaly cool, though i question long term support. We have one of our contract customers that hired a full time IT guy, we sent him a racktables VM, this is a multis site customer, with multiple racks mixing POE VLAN multiple providers. One huge problem was we never go to the out of state sites, documentation on ports was always lacking and site disasters always ended up with stuff where it belonged, this should help to resolve that But for simple subnet management and documentation there is zero easy product out there, everything is full IPAM or Excel. Ive been looking for something other than a spreadsheet to keep tract of the subnets, and where I put them, whats available next. PITA to say the least. Other than a spreadsheed, theres not much that scales down to just the subnets divisions, if you dont care about the hosts. and every one of them results an a sales call within 5 minites of submission if you put your real info. Its like, seriously motherfu%%er, I just downloaded it, do you think I have it installed and tested yet enough to tell the boss to cut you a 10k check? On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 10:44 PM, David Milholen via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Ken, We used to do that up until a few years ago and we have moved on LOL I have had so many spread sheets that have since moved into automation of today and now the cloud(still a mystery) LOL Easy to do get a LAMP stack server and roll with it. On 11/29/2014 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: I use IP management software called “Excel”. It is not free, but I hear of alternatives called “Open Office” and “Google Docs”. *From:* Mike Hammett via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 9:02 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IP Management All of the above. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:59:15 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IP Management How much public IP space do you guys have? Seems kind of like a first world problem, if you know what I mean. Or are you talking about managing private IP space in a large enterprise network? That can be a mess, but you mentioned ARIN, so I assumed you meant public addresses. Or maybe you are worried about IPv6 space where lightbulbs get their own addresses? Oh crap, do we have to SWIP all the addresses we assign to the Internet of Things? -Original Message- From: Butch Evans via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:44 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Management On 11/29/2014 07:06 PM, Josh Baird via Af wrote: 6Connect is good. Men Mice is also good (but doesn't SWIP or do ARIN). Solarwinds also has an IPAM offering. There really isn't a good -free- solution that I know of (especially one that hasn't turned to vaporware). Many people will suggest IPPlan, but I hated it (although it can be easily customized and/or modified if you have any PHP clue). I wasn't impressed with IPPlan, either. HaCi is another free option that may do what you want. I haven't looked at it recently, so I can't even recall all the features of it at the moment. -- Butch Evans 702-537-0979 tel:702-537-0979 Network Support and Engineering http://store.wispgear.net/ http://www.butchevans.com/ -- -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
