[AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One?

[Michael Gawlowski]

Anyone had this issue? The customer is behind a ubiquiti running NAT with the 
ubiquiti using a public IP behind one of our Mikrotik's. The Mikrotik does not 
have any ports blocked, either. Any ideas?

Thank you,
Michael Gawlowski
Triad Wireless, LLC

Re: [AFMUG] Mobile Data + Wifi in Europe

[Sean Heskett]

Oh you can do it easily...you just pay out the nose for a phone call, let
alone data.

-Sean

On Friday, May 6, 2016, Jaime Solorza  wrote:

> Hey how does Jason Bourne do it so easily?
> On May 6, 2016 3:03 PM, "Trey Scarborough"  > wrote:
>
>> I agree T-mobile is probably the best option. free calls & slow data but
>> its enough to get by with. Plus IP calling when you get back to a wifi
>> connection.
>>
>> On 5/6/2016 8:12 AM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote:
>>
>>> I have TMobile here at home and usually go to Europe for a month each
>>> year. TMob gives its users free roaming with free 2G data and free texts
>>> internationally (for most popular destinations). I can pay extra for 3G
>>> data speeds if I want, but the 2G speeds are fine for me with Maps, and
>>> email checkings on the go.  Prior to this option from TMobile I would
>>> get a sim card in each country I visited and load it up with $20 or so.
>>> That got expensive and annoying fast, and if you didn’t get an
>>> “in-country” sim card you’d be roaming and thus eat through your balance
>>> quicker.  That’s why the Tmobile option is great for me, I get to keep
>>> my number and go wherever I want.  I believe it’s 20c/min for calls, but
>>> I normally just skype/facetime once I’m back at the hotel/BnB and using
>>> Wifi for free.
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 6, 2016, at 6:53 AM, Gino Villarini 
 >> wrote:

 Friends,

 Ill be in Europe traveling during the month of June.  What would be
 the best option for mobile data while traveling to UK, France, Italy,
 Switzerland, Germany and Spain?

 I was thinking a mobile hotspot with roaming of sorts... I dont wish
 to swap my phone sim card.

 Is there a good Wifi network available? FON?



>>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Mobile Data + Wifi in Europe

[Jaime Solorza]

Hey how does Jason Bourne do it so easily?
On May 6, 2016 3:03 PM, "Trey Scarborough"  wrote:

> I agree T-mobile is probably the best option. free calls & slow data but
> its enough to get by with. Plus IP calling when you get back to a wifi
> connection.
>
> On 5/6/2016 8:12 AM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote:
>
>> I have TMobile here at home and usually go to Europe for a month each
>> year. TMob gives its users free roaming with free 2G data and free texts
>> internationally (for most popular destinations). I can pay extra for 3G
>> data speeds if I want, but the 2G speeds are fine for me with Maps, and
>> email checkings on the go.  Prior to this option from TMobile I would
>> get a sim card in each country I visited and load it up with $20 or so.
>> That got expensive and annoying fast, and if you didn’t get an
>> “in-country” sim card you’d be roaming and thus eat through your balance
>> quicker.  That’s why the Tmobile option is great for me, I get to keep
>> my number and go wherever I want.  I believe it’s 20c/min for calls, but
>> I normally just skype/facetime once I’m back at the hotel/BnB and using
>> Wifi for free.
>>
>>
>> On May 6, 2016, at 6:53 AM, Gino Villarini >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Friends,
>>>
>>> Ill be in Europe traveling during the month of June.  What would be
>>> the best option for mobile data while traveling to UK, France, Italy,
>>> Switzerland, Germany and Spain?
>>>
>>> I was thinking a mobile hotspot with roaming of sorts... I dont wish
>>> to swap my phone sim card.
>>>
>>> Is there a good Wifi network available? FON?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Contacts for fiber - Windstream, US Signal, Zayo

[Jon Auer]

When we started working with US Signal I just filled out the contact form
on their web site and waited a couple days. That got me in touch with a
local sales rep who's been pretty reasonable (we're in a different
territory or I'd send you his info).

Re: other comments, I've found their VES service to be pricy but aside from
that they were able to get us connected to random things in AT land where
no one was willing to work with us: Example: "here's a AT LOA/CFA. Yes,
one end is in a CO where you have colo. Please just order it." and they
did.
Their pricing on waves between truly on-net buildings (where they own/lease
dark fiber) has been unbeatable. I've tried national aggregators and they
seem to come in with prices a few points higher than I can get directly
from regional transport providers, but this is mostly minimum 1G circuits
at a minimum. Maybe it's different in the 10-100M bracket.

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Looking for transport pricing from these three carriers.  Does anyone have
> a human I can talk to in order to get a quote?  I'm trying to avoid the 2
> hours of hold times and transfers.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>

Re: [AFMUG] Contacts for fiber - Windstream, US Signal, Zayo

[Erich Kaiser]

Josh. Hit me up offlist we can RU. This through Fusion .
On May 6, 2016 10:00 AM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Looking for transport pricing from these three carriers.  Does anyone have
> a human I can talk to in order to get a quote?  I'm trying to avoid the 2
> hours of hold times and transfers.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>

Re: [AFMUG] Contacts for fiber - Windstream, US Signal, Zayo

[Tim Reichhart]

Josh
I had really bad problems with us signal I had to cancel away from them after 
week or so after getting it installed. Plus there pricing is high for 
100/100meg service and with windstream I got an quote for $800 for 100/100 but 
you have to find somebody to get to you like last mile like twc. Zayo that is 
an joke they wouldnt even talk to me for bandwidth since I am not in there area 
but they do go through lima peering with CNI.

Tim


-Original Message-
From: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 05/06/16 04:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contacts for fiber - Windstream, US Signal, Zayo

 
Do yourself a favor, get your quotes through a national agent much less 
pain and better pricing
and they can most likely get you a quote from all three..


I will suggest you have carrierfinder do this for you...


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518(305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net


From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 2:48:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contacts for fiber - Windstream, US Signal, Zayo

Any contacts at all???
 

 
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:
Looking for transport pricing from these three carriers.  Does anyone have a 
human I can talk to in order to get a quote?  I'm trying to avoid the 2 hours 
of hold times and transfers.

 
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 

 
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Re: [AFMUG] Contacts for fiber - Windstream, US Signal, Zayo

[Faisal Imtiaz]

sent off list. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 5:18:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contacts for fiber - Windstream, US Signal, Zayo

> Got a contact for a carrier finder?

> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373

> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net >
> wrote:

>> Do yourself a favor, get your quotes through a national agent much less 
>> pain
>> and better pricing
>> and they can most likely get you a quote from all three..

>> I will suggest you have carrierfinder do this for you...

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>> From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com >
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 2:48:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contacts for fiber - Windstream, US Signal, Zayo

>>> Any contacts at all???

>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
>>> >
>>> wrote:

 Looking for transport pricing from these three carriers. Does anyone have a
 human I can talk to in order to get a quote? I'm trying to avoid the 2 
 hours of
 hold times and transfers.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps

[Wireless Administrator]

It had HV on the back of it. I did send it back to Chuck for review

 

Steve

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 3:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps

 

Is that a HV module? Would a non-HV module prevent GigE negotiation but still 
allow the radio to power up and run at 100Mb?

On 5/6/2016 10:57 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I will run it through its paces once I get it back.  

 

We have historically had lower clamp voltages and more greater sensitivity to 
surges and impulses than our competitors.  That gives the equipment greater 
protection but it also causes problems when there is high noise or ground 
loops.  One of the first support calls I ever got was from a guy trying to 
install one of our outdoor surge protectors in an attic and tying the ground to 
the ground wire in a nearby romex cable.  

 

Got them to put the thing outside the house and ground it to the house ground 
and it actually started working.  

 

But the surge suppressor itself could have issues too.  Once in a while one 
gets through our process with a problem.  

 

From: Joshaven Mailing Lists   

Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:54 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps

 

One possible difference is that your changing the impedance of the ground path. 
 Try using the same wire to connect to ground and ground out the surge module… 
you may find that the issue is low impedance causing a ground loop to travel 
your cable. 

 

In that event the solution is to give the current a lower impedance path that 
isn’t through your cable or at least only on the shield of your cable.

 

I use shielded patch panels before my surge modules and that creates a drain 
for the shield that has lower impedance (generally) then other paths.

 

Ideally you would run a ground cable up your tower for all of your equipment 
that is large enough wire to be the best path to ground.

 

 

Remember that this isn’t just about shorting grounds to the earth ground but 
you also have ground currents and static electricity created by wind etc that 
causes stray electricity that can interfere with your systems.

 

 

Sincerely,

Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370

supp...@joshaven.com

 

 

On May 6, 2016, at 11:43 AM,   wrote:

 


And there is a reason

When surge components clamp, they do so for a reason.  

 

From:   Wireless Administrator

Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM

To: af@afmug.com

Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps

 

Replaced This ……

 



 

With This …….

 



 

On same ground point and got This ……

 



 

:-)

 

Except I want this to work …….

 



 

L

Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line ……

 

Steve

 

 

From: Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com'
Subject: Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i

 


We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run at 
Gigabit speed.  


Our setup is as follows:


Gigabit switch (Tried several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync injector 
(48V) à 35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’ Best-tronics 
Cat5 Shielded à Cambium 450i


It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler).


Anyone ……….


 


Steve B.


 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Contacts for fiber - Windstream, US Signal, Zayo

[Joe Novak]

Josh,

Forwarded a email to the boss man, I think he has a sales contact for US
Signal. He is not on the list so he will probably reply off list.

Joe

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Any contacts at all???
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Looking for transport pricing from these three carriers.  Does anyone
>> have a human I can talk to in order to get a quote?  I'm trying to avoid
>> the 2 hours of hold times and transfers.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Contacts for fiber - Windstream, US Signal, Zayo

[Josh Luthman]

Got a contact for a carrier finder?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> Do yourself a favor, get your quotes through a national agent much
> less pain and better pricing
> and they can most likely get you a quote from all three..
>
> I will suggest you have carrierfinder do this for you...
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, May 6, 2016 2:48:35 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Contacts for fiber - Windstream, US Signal, Zayo
>
> Any contacts at all???
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Looking for transport pricing from these three carriers.  Does anyone
>> have a human I can talk to in order to get a quote?  I'm trying to avoid
>> the 2 hours of hold times and transfers.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mobile Data + Wifi in Europe

[Trey Scarborough]

I agree T-mobile is probably the best option. free calls & slow data but 
its enough to get by with. Plus IP calling when you get back to a wifi 
connection.


On 5/6/2016 8:12 AM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote:

I have TMobile here at home and usually go to Europe for a month each
year. TMob gives its users free roaming with free 2G data and free texts
internationally (for most popular destinations). I can pay extra for 3G
data speeds if I want, but the 2G speeds are fine for me with Maps, and
email checkings on the go.  Prior to this option from TMobile I would
get a sim card in each country I visited and load it up with $20 or so.
That got expensive and annoying fast, and if you didn’t get an
“in-country” sim card you’d be roaming and thus eat through your balance
quicker.  That’s why the Tmobile option is great for me, I get to keep
my number and go wherever I want.  I believe it’s 20c/min for calls, but
I normally just skype/facetime once I’m back at the hotel/BnB and using
Wifi for free.



On May 6, 2016, at 6:53 AM, Gino Villarini > wrote:

Friends,

Ill be in Europe traveling during the month of June.  What would be
the best option for mobile data while traveling to UK, France, Italy,
Switzerland, Germany and Spain?

I was thinking a mobile hotspot with roaming of sorts... I dont wish
to swap my phone sim card.

Is there a good Wifi network available? FON?

Re: [AFMUG] Contacts for fiber - Windstream, US Signal, Zayo

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Do yourself a favor, get your quotes through a national agent much less 
pain and better pricing 
and they can most likely get you a quote from all three.. 

I will suggest you have carrierfinder do this for you... 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 2:48:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contacts for fiber - Windstream, US Signal, Zayo

> Any contacts at all???

> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373

> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com >
> wrote:

>> Looking for transport pricing from these three carriers. Does anyone have a
>> human I can talk to in order to get a quote? I'm trying to avoid the 2 hours 
>> of
>> hold times and transfers.

>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Craig Schmaderer]

That is where I am at with the 801G + Splice case + drop cable/conduit.  Just 
have to add on the other gpon end.  In the last year my cost per house has 
dropped like crazy.  Tack on the 844E for $7 a month and look forward.

Craig R. Schmaderer
CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
Direct: 402-372-1052

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 2:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

Mikrotik and UBNT have both tried to create an outdoor rated NID/ONT, but both 
have failed miserably in my opinion.

If either of them gets it right for the right price (under $150) I will buy 
them all day long.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 1:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

True.

But I still need all that to tranceive to GigE anyways, right?

I don’t think they have an active Ethernet SFP capable module on the market 
yet, but I think it’s coming?

99.99 percent of my installs are switching from fiber to Cat5e at the side of 
the house.

What I really want is a good all-inclusive standard GigE SFP NID/ONT with a 1.5 
inch opening for our conduit and another ¾ opening for flex tube for the home 
Cat5e that is never outdoor rated.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 1:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo


Which gives you NONE of the capabilities of the 844 :P
On May 6, 2016 2:15 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" 
> wrote:
We use a Mikrotik RB260GS. Less than $40 shipped. Less than $10 for SFP module.
The entire cost of parts, NID, splice tray and ONT w/POE is less than $150.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 1:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

How much our your active media converters (ont) that you use.  I was wondering 
if my 801G are getting close in price.

Craig R. Schmaderer
CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
Direct: 402-372-1052

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 2:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

Uh oh, you shared a ballpark price, lol!

Companies are so backwards to think in this day and age they can keep their 
pricing a secret to a large community.

They still haven’t told me pricing.

I think the rep is waiting to see if I’m really interested.

We don’t do GPON yet, and my pricing for the entire NID/ONT at a full 1000FDX 
made the rep do a double take.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 12:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

gigacenter 844E is ~$150-ish

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel 
> wrote:
You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.

Unbelievable.

Tushar


On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost?

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar 
> wrote:

We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that calix 
has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software to run it 
only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig would be how's 2.4 
treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?







Carlos Alcantar

Race Communications / Race Team Member

1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / 
car...@race.com / 
http://www.race.com


From: Af > on behalf of 
Sterling Jacobson >
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

Nice!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

A beautiful thing.

From: Craig Schmaderer
Sent: 

Re: [AFMUG] Contacts for fiber - Windstream, US Signal, Zayo

[Matt]

Email sales (at) zayo.com and they answer pretty quick.



On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:
> Looking for transport pricing from these three carriers.  Does anyone have a
> human I can talk to in order to get a quote?  I'm trying to avoid the 2
> hours of hold times and transfers.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps

[Josh Luthman]

In the other thread he verified it was a "800-800-GIGE-APC-HV"


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 3:42 PM,  wrote:

> We are all presuming it is HV.  If non HV then there many reasons it is
> failing.
>
> *From:* George Skorup 
> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 1:32 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running
> 100Mbps
>
> Is that a HV module? Would a non-HV module prevent GigE negotiation but
> still allow the radio to power up and run at 100Mb?
>
> On 5/6/2016 10:57 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I will run it through its paces once I get it back.
>
> We have historically had lower clamp voltages and more greater sensitivity
> to surges and impulses than our competitors.  That gives the equipment
> greater protection but it also causes problems when there is high noise or
> ground loops.  One of the first support calls I ever got was from a guy
> trying to install one of our outdoor surge protectors in an attic and tying
> the ground to the ground wire in a nearby romex cable.
>
> Got them to put the thing outside the house and ground it to the house
> ground and it actually started working.
>
> But the surge suppressor itself could have issues too.  Once in a while
> one gets through our process with a problem.
>
> *From:* Joshaven Mailing Lists 
> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 9:54 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running
> 100Mbps
>
> One possible difference is that your changing the impedance of the ground
> path.  Try using the same wire to connect to ground and ground out the
> surge module… you may find that the issue is low impedance causing a ground
> loop to travel your cable.
>
> In that event the solution is to give the current a lower impedance path
> that isn’t through your cable or at least only on the shield of your cable.
>
> I use shielded patch panels before my surge modules and that creates a
> drain for the shield that has lower impedance (generally) then other paths.
>
> Ideally you would run a ground cable up your tower for all of your
> equipment that is large enough wire to be the best path to ground.
>
>
> Remember that this isn’t just about shorting grounds to the earth ground
> but you also have ground currents and static electricity created by wind
> etc that causes stray electricity that can interfere with your systems.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Joshaven Potter
> Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
> supp...@joshaven.com
>
>
>
>
> On May 6, 2016, at 11:43 AM, < ch...@wbmfg.com> <
> ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>
> And there is a reason
> When surge components clamp, they do so for a reason.
>
> *From:* Wireless Administrator 
> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM
> *To:*  af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
>
> *Replaced This ……*
>
> 
>
> *With This …….*
>
> 
>
> *On same ground point and got This ……*
>
> **
>
> *:-)*
>
> Except I want this to work …….
>
> 
>
> *L*
> *Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line ……*
>
> *Steve*
>
>
> *From:* Wireless Administrator [ mailto:wirel...@htn.net
> ]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM
> *To:* ' af@afmug.com'
> *Subject:* Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i
>
> We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run
> at Gigabit speed.   Our setup is as follows: Gigabit switch (Tried
> several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync injector (48V) à 35’
> Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’ Best-tronics Cat5
> Shielded à Cambium 450i It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5
> Coupler). Anyone ……….   Steve B.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps

[chuck]

We are all presuming it is HV.  If non HV then there many reasons it is 
failing.  

From: George Skorup 
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 1:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps

Is that a HV module? Would a non-HV module prevent GigE negotiation but still 
allow the radio to power up and run at 100Mb?


On 5/6/2016 10:57 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I will run it through its paces once I get it back.  

  We have historically had lower clamp voltages and more greater sensitivity to 
surges and impulses than our competitors.  That gives the equipment greater 
protection but it also causes problems when there is high noise or ground 
loops.  One of the first support calls I ever got was from a guy trying to 
install one of our outdoor surge protectors in an attic and tying the ground to 
the ground wire in a nearby romex cable.  

  Got them to put the thing outside the house and ground it to the house ground 
and it actually started working.  

  But the surge suppressor itself could have issues too.  Once in a while one 
gets through our process with a problem.  

  From: Joshaven Mailing Lists 
  Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:54 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps

  One possible difference is that your changing the impedance of the ground 
path.  Try using the same wire to connect to ground and ground out the surge 
module… you may find that the issue is low impedance causing a ground loop to 
travel your cable. 

  In that event the solution is to give the current a lower impedance path that 
isn’t through your cable or at least only on the shield of your cable.

  I use shielded patch panels before my surge modules and that creates a drain 
for the shield that has lower impedance (generally) then other paths.

  Ideally you would run a ground cable up your tower for all of your equipment 
that is large enough wire to be the best path to ground.


  Remember that this isn’t just about shorting grounds to the earth ground but 
you also have ground currents and static electricity created by wind etc that 
causes stray electricity that can interfere with your systems.


  Sincerely,
  Joshaven Potter
  Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
  Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
  supp...@joshaven.com




On May 6, 2016, at 11:43 AM,   wrote:


And there is a reason
When surge components clamp, they do so for a reason.  

From: Wireless Administrator
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps

Replaced This ……
 

 
With This …….
 

 
On same ground point and got This ……
 

 
:-)
 
Except I want this to work …….
 

 
L
Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line ……
 
Steve
 
 
From: Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com'
Subject: Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i
 
We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run at 
Gigabit speed.  
Our setup is as follows:
Gigabit switch (Tried several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync 
injector (48V) à 35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’ 
Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à Cambium 450i
It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler).
Anyone ……….
 
Steve B.

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[chuck]

I did the same...

From: Craig Schmaderer 
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 1:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

Gino, I called my sales rep and informed him about you.  I sent him your 
contact he said he was going to inform the Puerto Rico Sales rep right away, I 
hope that helps.

 

Craig R. Schmaderer

CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.

Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058

Direct: 402-372-1052

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 1:15 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

 

i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this 

 

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel  wrote:

You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.

 

Unbelievable.

Tushar

 


On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

  still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost? 

   

  On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar  wrote:

  We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that calix 
has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software to run it 
only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig would be how's 2.4 
treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?

   

   

   

  Carlos Alcantar

  Race Communications / Race Team Member 

  1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

  Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com

   


--

  From: Af  on behalf of Sterling Jacobson 

  Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo 

   

  Nice!

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

   

  A beautiful thing.  

   

  From: Craig Schmaderer 

  Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM

  To: Animal Farm 

  Subject: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

   

  

  Craig schmaderer
  Skywave Wireless, Inc.

   

   

 

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[chuck]

+1000

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 12:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

I talked ballpark with them at the last WISPA show and I would say continue to 
pursue it.


From: Gino Villarini 
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 1:14 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this 

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel  wrote:

  You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.

  Unbelievable.

  Tushar 


  On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:


still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost? 

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar  wrote:

  We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that 
calix has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software to 
run it only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig would be 
how's 2.4 treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?









  Carlos Alcantar

  Race Communications / Race Team Member 

  1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

  Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com




--

  From: Af  on behalf of Sterling Jacobson 

  Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo 

  Nice!



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo



  A beautiful thing.  



  From: Craig Schmaderer 

  Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM

  To: Animal Farm 

  Subject: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo



  

  Craig schmaderer
  Skywave Wireless, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps

[George Skorup]

Is that a HV module? Would a non-HV module prevent GigE negotiation but 
still allow the radio to power up and run at 100Mb?


On 5/6/2016 10:57 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I will run it through its paces once I get it back.
We have historically had lower clamp voltages and more greater 
sensitivity to surges and impulses than our competitors.  That gives 
the equipment greater protection but it also causes problems when 
there is high noise or ground loops.  One of the first support calls I 
ever got was from a guy trying to install one of our outdoor surge 
protectors in an attic and tying the ground to the ground wire in a 
nearby romex cable.
Got them to put the thing outside the house and ground it to the house 
ground and it actually started working.
But the surge suppressor itself could have issues too. Once in a while 
one gets through our process with a problem.

*From:* Joshaven Mailing Lists 
*Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 9:54 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 
100Mbps
One possible difference is that your changing the impedance of the 
ground path.  Try using the same wire to connect to ground and ground 
out the surge module… you may find that the issue is low impedance 
causing a ground loop to travel your cable.
In that event the solution is to give the current a lower impedance 
path that isn’t through your cable or at least only on the shield of 
your cable.
I use shielded patch panels before my surge modules and that creates a 
drain for the shield that has lower impedance (generally) then other 
paths.
Ideally you would run a ground cable up your tower for all of your 
equipment that is large enough wire to be the best path to ground.
Remember that this isn’t just about shorting grounds to the earth 
ground but you also have ground currents and static electricity 
created by wind etc that causes stray electricity that can interfere 
with your systems.

Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co 
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com 


On May 6, 2016, at 11:43 AM, > > 
wrote:


And there is a reason
When surge components clamp, they do so for a reason.
*From:*Wireless Administrator 
*Sent:*Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM
*To:*af@afmug.com 
*Subject:*[AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
*Replaced This ……*

*With This …….*

*On same ground point and got This ……*
**

**
*:-)*
Except I want this to work …….

*L***
*Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line ……*
**
*Steve*
*From:*Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net]
*Sent:*Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM
*To:*'af@afmug.com '
*Subject:*Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i


  We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface
  to run at Gigabit speed.


  Our setup is as follows:


  Gigabit switch (Tried several brands)à14’ Cat6 PatchàGigabit Sync
  injector (48V)à35’ Best-tronics Cat5
  Shieldedà800-800-GIGE-APC-HVà80’ Best-tronics Cat5 ShieldedàCambium
  450i


  It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler).


  Anyone ……….


  Steve B.

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Sterling Jacobson]

Mikrotik and UBNT have both tried to create an outdoor rated NID/ONT, but both 
have failed miserably in my opinion.

If either of them gets it right for the right price (under $150) I will buy 
them all day long.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 1:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

True.

But I still need all that to tranceive to GigE anyways, right?

I don’t think they have an active Ethernet SFP capable module on the market 
yet, but I think it’s coming?

99.99 percent of my installs are switching from fiber to Cat5e at the side of 
the house.

What I really want is a good all-inclusive standard GigE SFP NID/ONT with a 1.5 
inch opening for our conduit and another ¾ opening for flex tube for the home 
Cat5e that is never outdoor rated.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 1:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo


Which gives you NONE of the capabilities of the 844 :P
On May 6, 2016 2:15 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" 
> wrote:
We use a Mikrotik RB260GS. Less than $40 shipped. Less than $10 for SFP module.
The entire cost of parts, NID, splice tray and ONT w/POE is less than $150.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 1:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

How much our your active media converters (ont) that you use.  I was wondering 
if my 801G are getting close in price.

Craig R. Schmaderer
CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
Direct: 402-372-1052

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 2:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

Uh oh, you shared a ballpark price, lol!

Companies are so backwards to think in this day and age they can keep their 
pricing a secret to a large community.

They still haven’t told me pricing.

I think the rep is waiting to see if I’m really interested.

We don’t do GPON yet, and my pricing for the entire NID/ONT at a full 1000FDX 
made the rep do a double take.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 12:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

gigacenter 844E is ~$150-ish

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel 
> wrote:
You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.

Unbelievable.

Tushar


On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost?

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar 
> wrote:

We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that calix 
has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software to run it 
only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig would be how's 2.4 
treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?







Carlos Alcantar

Race Communications / Race Team Member

1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / 
car...@race.com / 
http://www.race.com


From: Af > on behalf of 
Sterling Jacobson >
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

Nice!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

A beautiful thing.

From: Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo


Craig schmaderer
Skywave Wireless, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Sterling Jacobson]

True.

But I still need all that to tranceive to GigE anyways, right?

I don’t think they have an active Ethernet SFP capable module on the market 
yet, but I think it’s coming?

99.99 percent of my installs are switching from fiber to Cat5e at the side of 
the house.

What I really want is a good all-inclusive standard GigE SFP NID/ONT with a 1.5 
inch opening for our conduit and another ¾ opening for flex tube for the home 
Cat5e that is never outdoor rated.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 1:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo


Which gives you NONE of the capabilities of the 844 :P
On May 6, 2016 2:15 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" 
> wrote:
We use a Mikrotik RB260GS. Less than $40 shipped. Less than $10 for SFP module.
The entire cost of parts, NID, splice tray and ONT w/POE is less than $150.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 1:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

How much our your active media converters (ont) that you use.  I was wondering 
if my 801G are getting close in price.

Craig R. Schmaderer
CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
Direct: 402-372-1052

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 2:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

Uh oh, you shared a ballpark price, lol!

Companies are so backwards to think in this day and age they can keep their 
pricing a secret to a large community.

They still haven’t told me pricing.

I think the rep is waiting to see if I’m really interested.

We don’t do GPON yet, and my pricing for the entire NID/ONT at a full 1000FDX 
made the rep do a double take.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 12:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

gigacenter 844E is ~$150-ish

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel 
> wrote:
You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.

Unbelievable.

Tushar


On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost?

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar 
> wrote:

We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that calix 
has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software to run it 
only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig would be how's 2.4 
treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?







Carlos Alcantar

Race Communications / Race Team Member

1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / 
car...@race.com / 
http://www.race.com


From: Af > on behalf of 
Sterling Jacobson >
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

Nice!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

A beautiful thing.

From: Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo


Craig schmaderer
Skywave Wireless, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Josh Reynolds]

A my bad, I missed the email you responded too. I thought you were
trying to compare feature sets and price to the solution in the picture ;)
On May 6, 2016 2:15 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"  wrote:

> We use a Mikrotik RB260GS. Less than $40 shipped. Less than $10 for SFP
> module.
>
> The entire cost of parts, NID, splice tray and ONT w/POE is less than $150.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig Schmaderer
> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 1:02 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>
>
>
> How much our your active media converters (ont) that you use.  I was
> wondering if my 801G are getting close in price.
>
>
>
> *Craig R. Schmaderer*
>
> *CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.*
>
> *Ph: 402-372-1975 <402-372-1975> | Fax: 402-372-1058 <402-372-1058>*
>
> *Direct: 402-372-1052 <402-372-1052>*
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Sterling Jacobson
> *Sent:* Friday, May 06, 2016 2:00 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>
>
>
> Uh oh, you shared a ballpark price, lol!
>
>
>
> Companies are so backwards to think in this day and age they can keep
> their pricing a secret to a large community.
>
>
>
> They still haven’t told me pricing.
>
>
>
> I think the rep is waiting to see if I’m really interested.
>
>
>
> We don’t do GPON yet, and my pricing for the entire NID/ONT at a full
> 1000FDX made the rep do a double take.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 12:52 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>
>
>
> gigacenter 844E is ~$150-ish
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
>
> i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel  wrote:
>
> You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.
>
>
>
> Unbelievable.
>
> Tushar
>
>
>
>
> On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>
> still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost?
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar  wrote:
>
> We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that
> calix has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software
> to run it only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig
> would be how's 2.4 treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Carlos Alcantar
>
> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>
> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>
> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* Af  on behalf of Sterling Jacobson <
> sterl...@avative.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>
>
>
> Nice!
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>
>
>
> A beautiful thing.
>
>
>
> *From:* Craig Schmaderer 
>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM
>
> *To:* Animal Farm 
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>
>
>
> 
>
> Craig schmaderer
> Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Josh Reynolds]

Which gives you NONE of the capabilities of the 844 :P
On May 6, 2016 2:15 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"  wrote:

> We use a Mikrotik RB260GS. Less than $40 shipped. Less than $10 for SFP
> module.
>
> The entire cost of parts, NID, splice tray and ONT w/POE is less than $150.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig Schmaderer
> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 1:02 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>
>
>
> How much our your active media converters (ont) that you use.  I was
> wondering if my 801G are getting close in price.
>
>
>
> *Craig R. Schmaderer*
>
> *CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.*
>
> *Ph: 402-372-1975 <402-372-1975> | Fax: 402-372-1058 <402-372-1058>*
>
> *Direct: 402-372-1052 <402-372-1052>*
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Sterling Jacobson
> *Sent:* Friday, May 06, 2016 2:00 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>
>
>
> Uh oh, you shared a ballpark price, lol!
>
>
>
> Companies are so backwards to think in this day and age they can keep
> their pricing a secret to a large community.
>
>
>
> They still haven’t told me pricing.
>
>
>
> I think the rep is waiting to see if I’m really interested.
>
>
>
> We don’t do GPON yet, and my pricing for the entire NID/ONT at a full
> 1000FDX made the rep do a double take.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 12:52 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>
>
>
> gigacenter 844E is ~$150-ish
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
>
> i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel  wrote:
>
> You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.
>
>
>
> Unbelievable.
>
> Tushar
>
>
>
>
> On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>
> still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost?
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar  wrote:
>
> We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that
> calix has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software
> to run it only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig
> would be how's 2.4 treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Carlos Alcantar
>
> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>
> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>
> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* Af  on behalf of Sterling Jacobson <
> sterl...@avative.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>
>
>
> Nice!
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>
>
>
> A beautiful thing.
>
>
>
> *From:* Craig Schmaderer 
>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM
>
> *To:* Animal Farm 
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>
>
>
> 
>
> Craig schmaderer
> Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Sterling Jacobson]

We use a Mikrotik RB260GS. Less than $40 shipped. Less than $10 for SFP module.
The entire cost of parts, NID, splice tray and ONT w/POE is less than $150.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 1:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

How much our your active media converters (ont) that you use.  I was wondering 
if my 801G are getting close in price.

Craig R. Schmaderer
CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
Direct: 402-372-1052

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 2:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

Uh oh, you shared a ballpark price, lol!

Companies are so backwards to think in this day and age they can keep their 
pricing a secret to a large community.

They still haven’t told me pricing.

I think the rep is waiting to see if I’m really interested.

We don’t do GPON yet, and my pricing for the entire NID/ONT at a full 1000FDX 
made the rep do a double take.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 12:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

gigacenter 844E is ~$150-ish

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel 
> wrote:
You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.

Unbelievable.

Tushar


On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost?

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar 
> wrote:

We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that calix 
has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software to run it 
only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig would be how's 2.4 
treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?







Carlos Alcantar

Race Communications / Race Team Member

1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / 
car...@race.com / 
http://www.race.com


From: Af > on behalf of 
Sterling Jacobson >
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

Nice!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

A beautiful thing.

From: Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo


Craig schmaderer
Skywave Wireless, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Gino Villarini]

thanks Craig!
$150 is a good price!
we are using mixed copper and GEPON 
Sent from Outlook Mobile




On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 12:02 PM -0700, "Craig Schmaderer" 
 wrote:




















How much our your active media converters (ont) that you use.  I was wondering 
if my 801G are getting close in price.


 



Craig R. Schmaderer


CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.


Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058


Direct: 402-372-1052



 




From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson

Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 2:00 PM

To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo




 


Uh oh, you shared a ballpark price, lol!


 


Companies are so backwards to think in this day and age they can keep their 
pricing a secret to a large community.


 


They still haven’t told me pricing.


 


I think the rep is waiting to see if I’m really interested.


 


We don’t do GPON yet, and my pricing for the entire NID/ONT at a full 1000FDX 
made the rep do a double take.


 


 


 


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
On Behalf Of Sean Heskett

Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 12:52 PM

To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo


 



gigacenter 844E is ~$150-ish




 



On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:




i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this 






 



On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel  wrote:





You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.




 




Unbelievable.



Tushar



 







On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:






still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost? 




 



On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar  wrote:





We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that calix 
has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software to run
 it only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig would be how's 
2.4 treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?


 




 


 


Carlos Alcantar


Race Communications / Race Team Member 


1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010


Phone:
+1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com


 









From: Af 
 on behalf of Sterling Jacobson 

Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM

To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo 



 






Nice!


 




From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com

Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM

To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo




 





A beautiful thing. 







 






From:

Craig Schmaderer 





Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM





To:
Animal Farm






Subject: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo






 










Craig schmaderer

Skywave Wireless, Inc.




 












 








 







 

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Craig Schmaderer]

How much our your active media converters (ont) that you use.  I was wondering 
if my 801G are getting close in price.

Craig R. Schmaderer
CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
Direct: 402-372-1052

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 2:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

Uh oh, you shared a ballpark price, lol!

Companies are so backwards to think in this day and age they can keep their 
pricing a secret to a large community.

They still haven’t told me pricing.

I think the rep is waiting to see if I’m really interested.

We don’t do GPON yet, and my pricing for the entire NID/ONT at a full 1000FDX 
made the rep do a double take.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 12:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

gigacenter 844E is ~$150-ish

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel 
> wrote:
You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.

Unbelievable.

Tushar


On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost?

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar 
> wrote:

We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that calix 
has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software to run it 
only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig would be how's 2.4 
treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?







Carlos Alcantar

Race Communications / Race Team Member

1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / 
car...@race.com / 
http://www.race.com


From: Af > on behalf of 
Sterling Jacobson >
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

Nice!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

A beautiful thing.

From: Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo


Craig schmaderer
Skywave Wireless, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Contacts for fiber - Windstream, US Signal, Zayo

[Josh Reynolds]

I would not work with two of those, and I don't have contacts at Zayo.
On May 6, 2016 1:48 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Any contacts at all???
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Looking for transport pricing from these three carriers.  Does anyone
>> have a human I can talk to in order to get a quote?  I'm trying to avoid
>> the 2 hours of hold times and transfers.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Craig Schmaderer]

Gino, I called my sales rep and informed him about you.  I sent him your 
contact he said he was going to inform the Puerto Rico Sales rep right away, I 
hope that helps.

Craig R. Schmaderer
CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
Direct: 402-372-1052

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 1:15 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel 
> wrote:
You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.

Unbelievable.

Tushar


On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost?

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar 
> wrote:

We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that calix 
has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software to run it 
only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig would be how's 2.4 
treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?







Carlos Alcantar

Race Communications / Race Team Member

1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / 
car...@race.com / 
http://www.race.com


From: Af > on behalf of 
Sterling Jacobson >
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

Nice!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

A beautiful thing.

From: Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo


Craig schmaderer
Skywave Wireless, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Josh Reynolds]

Yes, the gpon version is spendy...
On May 6, 2016 1:52 PM, "Craig Schmaderer"  wrote:

> Wow, first off that is a 844G = gpon version, I need to sell them I could
> make a killing on ebay for that price.  844E I think I can say without
> getting in trouble is definitely worth pursuing.
>
>
>
> *Craig R. Schmaderer*
>
> *CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.*
>
> *Ph: 402-372-1975 <402-372-1975> | Fax: 402-372-1058 <402-372-1058>*
>
> *Direct: 402-372-1052 <402-372-1052>*
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, May 06, 2016 1:45 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>
>
>
> Don't pursue
>
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Calix-844g-Gigacenter-/121661104831
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
>
> i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel  wrote:
>
> You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.
>
>
>
> Unbelievable.
>
> Tushar
>
>
>
>
> On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>
> still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost?
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar  wrote:
>
> We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that
> calix has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software
> to run it only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig
> would be how's 2.4 treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Carlos Alcantar
>
> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>
> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>
> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* Af  on behalf of Sterling Jacobson <
> sterl...@avative.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>
>
>
> Nice!
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>
>
>
> A beautiful thing.
>
>
>
> *From:* Craig Schmaderer 
>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM
>
> *To:* Animal Farm 
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>
>
>
> 
>
> Craig schmaderer
> Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Sterling Jacobson]

Uh oh, you shared a ballpark price, lol!

Companies are so backwards to think in this day and age they can keep their 
pricing a secret to a large community.

They still haven’t told me pricing.

I think the rep is waiting to see if I’m really interested.

We don’t do GPON yet, and my pricing for the entire NID/ONT at a full 1000FDX 
made the rep do a double take.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 12:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

gigacenter 844E is ~$150-ish

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel 
> wrote:
You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.

Unbelievable.

Tushar


On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost?

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar 
> wrote:

We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that calix 
has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software to run it 
only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig would be how's 2.4 
treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?







Carlos Alcantar

Race Communications / Race Team Member

1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / 
car...@race.com / 
http://www.race.com


From: Af > on behalf of 
Sterling Jacobson >
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

Nice!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

A beautiful thing.

From: Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo


Craig schmaderer
Skywave Wireless, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Mobile Data + Wifi in Europe

[Lewis Bergman]

I have 3 OneSim phones that I bought last time I went over there. Not sure
how the data rates are but I could ship them to you if it helps. My son has
been over there since January. He just broke up with his girl friend and
was going to fly back to your home town. Not sure if he will.

Anyway, I can ask him what he does if you want. In total he has spent about
18 months over there in the last couple of years.

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 7:53 AM Gino Villarini  wrote:

> Friends,
>
> Ill be in Europe traveling during the month of June.  What would be the
> best option for mobile data while traveling to UK, France, Italy,
> Switzerland, Germany and Spain?
>
> I was thinking a mobile hotspot with roaming of sorts... I dont wish to
> swap my phone sim card.
>
> Is there a good Wifi network available? FON?
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Craig Schmaderer]

Wow, first off that is a 844G = gpon version, I need to sell them I could make 
a killing on ebay for that price.  844E I think I can say without getting in 
trouble is definitely worth pursuing.

Craig R. Schmaderer
CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
Direct: 402-372-1052

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 1:45 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

Don't pursue

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Calix-844g-Gigacenter-/121661104831


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel 
> wrote:
You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.

Unbelievable.

Tushar


On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost?

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar 
> wrote:

We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that calix 
has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software to run it 
only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig would be how's 2.4 
treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?







Carlos Alcantar

Race Communications / Race Team Member

1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / 
car...@race.com / 
http://www.race.com


From: Af > on behalf of 
Sterling Jacobson >
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

Nice!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

A beautiful thing.

From: Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo


Craig schmaderer
Skywave Wireless, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Sean Heskett]

gigacenter 844E is ~$150-ish

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

> i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel  wrote:
>
>> You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.
>>
>> Unbelievable.
>>
>> Tushar
>>
>>
>> On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>>
>> still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost?
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar  wrote:
>>
>>> We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that
>>> calix has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software
>>> to run it only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig
>>> would be how's 2.4 treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Carlos Alcantar
>>>
>>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>>>
>>> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>>>
>>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* Af  on behalf of Sterling Jacobson <
>>> sterl...@avative.net>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>>>
>>>
>>> Nice!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A beautiful thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Craig Schmaderer 
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* Animal Farm 
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Craig schmaderer
>>> Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Contacts for fiber - Windstream, US Signal, Zayo

[Josh Luthman]

Any contacts at all???


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Looking for transport pricing from these three carriers.  Does anyone have
> a human I can talk to in order to get a quote?  I'm trying to avoid the 2
> hours of hold times and transfers.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Ken Hohhof]

I talked ballpark with them at the last WISPA show and I would say continue to 
pursue it.


From: Gino Villarini 
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 1:14 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this 

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel  wrote:

  You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.

  Unbelievable.

  Tushar 


  On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:


still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost? 

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar  wrote:

  We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that 
calix has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software to 
run it only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig would be 
how's 2.4 treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?









  Carlos Alcantar

  Race Communications / Race Team Member 

  1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

  Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com




--

  From: Af  on behalf of Sterling Jacobson 

  Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo 

  Nice!



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo



  A beautiful thing.  



  From: Craig Schmaderer 

  Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM

  To: Animal Farm 

  Subject: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo



  

  Craig schmaderer
  Skywave Wireless, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Josh Luthman]

Don't pursue

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Calix-844g-Gigacenter-/121661104831


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

> i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel  wrote:
>
>> You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.
>>
>> Unbelievable.
>>
>> Tushar
>>
>>
>> On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>>
>> still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost?
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar  wrote:
>>
>>> We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that
>>> calix has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software
>>> to run it only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig
>>> would be how's 2.4 treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Carlos Alcantar
>>>
>>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>>>
>>> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>>>
>>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* Af  on behalf of Sterling Jacobson <
>>> sterl...@avative.net>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>>>
>>>
>>> Nice!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A beautiful thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Craig Schmaderer 
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* Animal Farm 
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Craig schmaderer
>>> Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Gino Villarini]

i just want to know ballpark... if they cost $300+ i wont even pursue this

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Tushar Patel  wrote:

> You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.
>
> Unbelievable.
>
> Tushar
>
>
> On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>
> still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost?
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar  wrote:
>
>> We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that
>> calix has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software
>> to run it only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig
>> would be how's 2.4 treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Carlos Alcantar
>>
>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>>
>> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>>
>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Af  on behalf of Sterling Jacobson <
>> sterl...@avative.net>
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>>
>>
>> Nice!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>>
>>
>>
>> A beautiful thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Craig Schmaderer 
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM
>>
>> *To:* Animal Farm 
>>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Craig schmaderer
>> Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo

[Tushar Patel]

You have to sign NDA, so can't share price.

Unbelievable.

Tushar


> On May 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
> 
> still waiting on Calix to call me... jeeZ!!!  how much the 844E cost? 
> 
>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Carlos Alcantar  wrote:
>> We have this setup running in our lab, my biggest gripe with it is that 
>> calix has been selling the 801G for some months now but there 2.4 software 
>> to run it only went GA this passed week.  I guess my question to Craig would 
>> be how's 2.4 treating you have you deployed the software in the mass?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Carlos Alcantar
>> 
>> Race Communications / Race Team Member 
>> 
>> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>> 
>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com
>> 
>> 
>> From: Af  on behalf of Sterling Jacobson 
>> 
>> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:40 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>>  
>> Nice!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
>> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:23 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> A beautiful thing. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Craig Schmaderer
>> 
>> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:18 AM
>> 
>> To: Animal Farm
>> 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Friday Funday with 801G + 844E Combo
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Craig schmaderer
>> Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Mobile Data + Wifi in Europe

[Sean Heskett]

Europe is tricky because as soon as you cross a border you are in a
different country and roaming fees etc. apply.  Even Europeans have
problems, we went snowboarding with my friend from France and as soon as we
got to Switzerland we had to turn off pandora...1st world problems for
sure.  last time i was over there i just went to Starbucks and used their
wifi...the rest of the time i enjoyed the silence and figured if the office
called i'd just pay the piper.

if you were going to be in just one country then you could do the SIM card
for that country but once you go to the next country you need a new card.
 kinda made me appreciate the no roaming here in america ;-)

-sean



On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 5:53 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

> Friends,
>
> Ill be in Europe traveling during the month of June.  What would be the
> best option for mobile data while traveling to UK, France, Italy,
> Switzerland, Germany and Spain?
>
> I was thinking a mobile hotspot with roaming of sorts... I dont wish to
> swap my phone sim card.
>
> Is there a good Wifi network available? FON?
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Routed Gigabit Micro Repeater (Mimosa hardware)

[Rob Genovesi]

We use Altech Corp CBI243A:
http://www.alliedelec.com/altech-corp-cbi243a/70236398/

We're in a cool climate and the box is in a shaded area so we haven't
put vent/fans in (yet).  Probably a good idea to do so just to be
safe.


-Rob


On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 5:20 AM, Christopher Gray
 wrote:
> Rob,
>
> What are you using for your charger?
>
>
> 
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Rob Genovesi  wrote:
>>
>> Netonix switches have been great for us.  We're using the DC model
>> with a few batteries for backup.  The Netonix takes 9-60 VDC in and
>> can output 24V or 48V (configurable by port).  Perfect for powering a
>> 24V Mikrotik and a few 48V radios.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Christopher Gray
>>  wrote:
>> > For my routed 100 Mbps micro repeater sites I've been running MikroTik
>> > RB750P routers for both routing traffic and powering radios (With good
>> > results).
>> >
>> > I want to setup my first small routed 1 Gbps repeater site using 2x B5
>> > backhaul links and 1x A5 PtMP. What are others using to run a small
>> > routed
>> > site that runs 48V Gigabit radios?
>> >
>> > I'm considering a RB750G with a Netonix WS-6-MINI, but using a Netonix
>> > as a
>> > power injector seems a little overkill.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps

[chuck]

I will run it through its paces once I get it back.  

We have historically had lower clamp voltages and more greater sensitivity to 
surges and impulses than our competitors.  That gives the equipment greater 
protection but it also causes problems when there is high noise or ground 
loops.  One of the first support calls I ever got was from a guy trying to 
install one of our outdoor surge protectors in an attic and tying the ground to 
the ground wire in a nearby romex cable.  

Got them to put the thing outside the house and ground it to the house ground 
and it actually started working.  

But the surge suppressor itself could have issues too.  Once in a while one 
gets through our process with a problem.  

From: Joshaven Mailing Lists 
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:54 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps

One possible difference is that your changing the impedance of the ground path. 
 Try using the same wire to connect to ground and ground out the surge module… 
you may find that the issue is low impedance causing a ground loop to travel 
your cable. 

In that event the solution is to give the current a lower impedance path that 
isn’t through your cable or at least only on the shield of your cable.

I use shielded patch panels before my surge modules and that creates a drain 
for the shield that has lower impedance (generally) then other paths.

Ideally you would run a ground cable up your tower for all of your equipment 
that is large enough wire to be the best path to ground.


Remember that this isn’t just about shorting grounds to the earth ground but 
you also have ground currents and static electricity created by wind etc that 
causes stray electricity that can interfere with your systems.


Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com




  On May 6, 2016, at 11:43 AM,   wrote:


  And there is a reason
  When surge components clamp, they do so for a reason.  

  From: Wireless Administrator
  Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps

  Replaced This ……
   
  
   
  With This …….
   
  
   
  On same ground point and got This ……
   
  
   
  :-)
   
  Except I want this to work …….
   
  
   
  L
  Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line ……
   
  Steve
   
   
  From: Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net] 
  Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM
  To: 'af@afmug.com'
  Subject: Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i
   
  We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run at 
Gigabit speed.  
  Our setup is as follows:
  Gigabit switch (Tried several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync injector 
(48V) à 35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’ Best-tronics 
Cat5 Shielded à Cambium 450i
  It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler).
  Anyone ……….
   
  Steve B.

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps

[Joshaven Mailing Lists]

One possible difference is that your changing the impedance of the ground path. 
 Try using the same wire to connect to ground and ground out the surge module… 
you may find that the issue is low impedance causing a ground loop to travel 
your cable.

In that event the solution is to give the current a lower impedance path that 
isn’t through your cable or at least only on the shield of your cable.

I use shielded patch panels before my surge modules and that creates a drain 
for the shield that has lower impedance (generally) then other paths.

Ideally you would run a ground cable up your tower for all of your equipment 
that is large enough wire to be the best path to ground.


Remember that this isn’t just about shorting grounds to the earth ground but 
you also have ground currents and static electricity created by wind etc that 
causes stray electricity that can interfere with your systems.


Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com



> On May 6, 2016, at 11:43 AM,   wrote:
> 
> 
> And there is a reason
> When surge components clamp, they do so for a reason.  
>  
> From: Wireless Administrator 
> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:16 AM
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i only running 100Mbps
>  
> Replaced This ……
>  
> 
>  
> With This …….
>  
> 
>  
> On same ground point and got This ……
>  
> 
>  
> :-)
>  
> Except I want this to work …….
>  
> 
>  
> L
> Extra effort to ensure clear pictures and easy to read story line ……
>  
> Steve
>  
>  
> From: Wireless Administrator [mailto:wirel...@htn.net 
> ] 
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:03 PM
> To: 'af@afmug.com '
> Subject: Gigabit Ethernet on Cambium 450i
>  
> We’re not able to get our Cambium 450i radio’s Ethernet Interface to run at 
> Gigabit speed.  
> 
> Our setup is as follows:
> 
> Gigabit switch (Tried several brands) à14’ Cat6 Patch àGigabit Sync injector 
> (48V) à 35’ Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV à 80’ 
> Best-tronics Cat5 Shielded à Cambium 450i
> 
> It works without the 800-800-GIGE-APC-HV. (Cat5 Coupler).
> 
> Anyone ……….
> 
>  
> 
> Steve B.
> 

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT CPE being used for Abusive actions?

[Joshaven Mailing Lists]

Sorry, here is the URL:  
http://www.securityweek.com/flaw-allows-hackers-find-ubiquiti-devices-exposed-web
 


Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com



> On May 6, 2016, at 11:46 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>  wrote:
> 
> whats the remote management thats enabled by default? or just the web 
> management?
> 
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists  > wrote:
> FYI… This is why you keep your firmware updated... :)
> 
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Joshaven Potter
> Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co 
> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 
> supp...@joshaven.com 
> 
> 
>> On May 4, 2016, at 6:33 PM, Tushar Patel > > wrote:
>> 
>> Radios could be put on private ip so nobody from outside world can access 
>> it. That is what we do.
>> 
>> Tushar
>> 
>> 
>> On May 4, 2016, at 5:22 PM, SmarterBroadband > > wrote:
>> 
>>> I have received a number of emails for ab...@light-gap.net 
>>>  saying certain of our IP address are being 
>>> used for attacks (see email text below).
>>>  
>>> All IP addresses are in UBNT radios.  We are unable to remote access any of 
>>> the these radios now.  We see that the radio we are unable to access 
>>> rebooted a couple of days ago.  A number of other radios show they rebooted 
>>> around the same time (in sequence) on the AP.  We are unable to remote 
>>> access any of those either. Other radios with longer uptime on the AP’s are 
>>> fine.
>>>  
>>> We have a tech on route to one of the customer sites.
>>>  
>>> We think the radios are being made into bots.  Anyone seen this or anything 
>>> like this?  Do the hackers need a username and password to hack a radio?  
>>> I.E.  Would a change of the password stop the changes being made to the 
>>> radios?  Any other thoughts, suggestions or ideas?
>>>  
>>> Thanks
>>>  
>>> Adam  
>>>  
>>> Email Text below:
>>>  
>>> “This is a semi-automated e-mail from the LG-Mailproxy authentication 
>>> system, all requests have been approved manually by the 
>>> system-administrators or are obviously unwanted (eg. requests to our 
>>> spamtraps).
>>> For further questions or if additional information is needed please reply 
>>> to this email.
>>>  
>>> The IP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx has been banned for 48 hours due to suspicious 
>>> behaviour on our system.
>>> This happened already 1 times.
>>> It might be be part of a botnet, infected by a trojan/virus or running 
>>> brute-force attacks.
>>>  
>>> Our affected destination servers: smtp.light-gap.net 
>>> , imap.light-gap.net 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Currently 7 failed/unauthorized logins attempts via SMTP/IMAP with 6 
>>> different usernames and wrong password:
>>> 2016-05-04T23:48:40+02:00 with username "downloads.openscience.or.at 
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Re: [AFMUG] Reboot Canopy SM from AP

[Chitrang Srivastava]

Packet of Disconnect doesn't reboot but drop the session and reconnect,  that 
may fix the problem that you are seeing.

Thanks,
Chitrang


From: Af  on behalf of Chitrang Srivastava 

Sent: 06 May 2016 20:32:23
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Reboot Canopy SM from AP

If you are using RADIUS, their is a way to reboot SM without logging into AP.

We do support Packet of Disconnect from 13.4.1 onwards.
How to use is explained here:

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-Configuration-Examples/PMP-13-4-Radius-Change-of-Authorization-Feature-Brief/m-p/39955#M203

Alternatively,  you can also use snmp proxy way as well. AP will proxy reboot 
oid request to SM.

From: Af  on behalf of Matt 
Sent: 05 May 2016 22:41:08
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Reboot Canopy SM from AP

Is there a way to reboot an SM from the AP without logging into it?

I have one of those locked up Canopy 900 FSK SM's where it shows in
session but no version info etc.  You can do link test on it from AP
even.  Reboot AP and it comes back but still no access.  SM will not
answer ping or arp either.

Re: [AFMUG] Reboot Canopy SM from AP

[Chitrang Srivastava]

If you are using RADIUS, their is a way to reboot SM without logging into AP.

We do support Packet of Disconnect from 13.4.1 onwards.
How to use is explained here:

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-Configuration-Examples/PMP-13-4-Radius-Change-of-Authorization-Feature-Brief/m-p/39955#M203

Alternatively,  you can also use snmp proxy way as well. AP will proxy reboot 
oid request to SM.

From: Af  on behalf of Matt 
Sent: 05 May 2016 22:41:08
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Reboot Canopy SM from AP

Is there a way to reboot an SM from the AP without logging into it?

I have one of those locked up Canopy 900 FSK SM's where it shows in
session but no version info etc.  You can do link test on it from AP
even.  Reboot AP and it comes back but still no access.  SM will not
answer ping or arp either.

[AFMUG] Contacts for fiber - Windstream, US Signal, Zayo

[Josh Luthman]

Looking for transport pricing from these three carriers.  Does anyone have
a human I can talk to in order to get a quote?  I'm trying to avoid the 2
hours of hold times and transfers.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Mobile Data + Wifi in Europe

[Cassidy B. Larson]

I have TMobile here at home and usually go to Europe for a month each year. 
TMob gives its users free roaming with free 2G data and free texts 
internationally (for most popular destinations). I can pay extra for 3G data 
speeds if I want, but the 2G speeds are fine for me with Maps, and email 
checkings on the go.  Prior to this option from TMobile I would get a sim card 
in each country I visited and load it up with $20 or so. That got expensive and 
annoying fast, and if you didn’t get an “in-country” sim card you’d be roaming 
and thus eat through your balance quicker.  That’s why the Tmobile option is 
great for me, I get to keep my number and go wherever I want.  I believe it’s 
20c/min for calls, but I normally just skype/facetime once I’m back at the 
hotel/BnB and using Wifi for free.


> On May 6, 2016, at 6:53 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
> 
> Friends,
> 
> Ill be in Europe traveling during the month of June.  What would be the best 
> option for mobile data while traveling to UK, France, Italy, Switzerland, 
> Germany and Spain?
> 
> I was thinking a mobile hotspot with roaming of sorts... I dont wish to swap 
> my phone sim card.
> 
> Is there a good Wifi network available? FON?
> 
> 

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Canopy PMP100
P9+ AP 5.2 - 20+  $100 ea OBO
P9+ SM 5.2 - 10 packs  $100 ea OBO
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[AFMUG] Mobile Data + Wifi in Europe

[Gino Villarini]

Friends,

Ill be in Europe traveling during the month of June.  What would be the
best option for mobile data while traveling to UK, France, Italy,
Switzerland, Germany and Spain?

I was thinking a mobile hotspot with roaming of sorts... I dont wish to
swap my phone sim card.

Is there a good Wifi network available? FON?

Re: [AFMUG] Routed Gigabit Micro Repeater (Mimosa hardware)

[Christopher Gray]

Rob,

What are you using for your charger?


--

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Rob Genovesi  wrote:

> Netonix switches have been great for us.  We're using the DC model
> with a few batteries for backup.  The Netonix takes 9-60 VDC in and
> can output 24V or 48V (configurable by port).  Perfect for powering a
> 24V Mikrotik and a few 48V radios.
>
> -Rob
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Christopher Gray
>  wrote:
> > For my routed 100 Mbps micro repeater sites I've been running MikroTik
> > RB750P routers for both routing traffic and powering radios (With good
> > results).
> >
> > I want to setup my first small routed 1 Gbps repeater site using 2x B5
> > backhaul links and 1x A5 PtMP. What are others using to run a small
> routed
> > site that runs 48V Gigabit radios?
> >
> > I'm considering a RB750G with a Netonix WS-6-MINI, but using a Netonix
> as a
> > power injector seems a little overkill.
>

Re: [AFMUG] RF armor radome

[Scott Vander Dussen]

lololo

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 15:13
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF armor radome

You should borrow Jaime's camera. I can't see a thing.

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 8:10 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:

RIP in pieces.  Who knows how long that's been that way.  Will never buy them 
again.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Routed Gigabit Micro Repeater (Mimosa hardware)

[Scott Vander Dussen]

No ventilation for that enclosure?  Those Netonix are only rated for +55C*

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rob Genovesi
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 01:22
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Routed Gigabit Micro Repeater (Mimosa hardware)

Netonix switches have been great for us.  We're using the DC model with a few 
batteries for backup.  The Netonix takes 9-60 VDC in and can output 24V or 48V 
(configurable by port).  Perfect for powering a 24V Mikrotik and a few 48V 
radios.

-Rob



On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Christopher Gray  
wrote:
> For my routed 100 Mbps micro repeater sites I've been running MikroTik 
> RB750P routers for both routing traffic and powering radios (With good 
> results).
>
> I want to setup my first small routed 1 Gbps repeater site using 2x B5 
> backhaul links and 1x A5 PtMP. What are others using to run a small 
> routed site that runs 48V Gigabit radios?
>
> I'm considering a RB750G with a Netonix WS-6-MINI, but using a Netonix 
> as a power injector seems a little overkill.