Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

[Chuck McCown]

But that is not very long...
I wrote my first program in something like 1968.

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 7:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

I've been running VMs for ten years.  :-p




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Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

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From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:17:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise


It is astounding to be witness to such an acceleration of technology.  I 
remember when VMs were scary experimental.  And it was not all that long ago 
from my perspective. 

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 7:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

You run it as a VM on your platform of choice, though mine is VMWare. It auto 
sets up the whole environment, OS and all.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:07:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise


I am not much of a VM or linux guy, so please forgive my ignorance.  But does 
this mean you have to run it on an Ubuntu machine?

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 7:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

It's very easy to install, comes as an OVA built on Ubuntu 14.04.

It has a nice TUI for the console to do things like changing IPs, console 
password, etc.

The web UI has an 8 - 16 character password requirement. #shittypasswords





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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

[Seth Mattinen]

On 7/8/16 6:27 PM, George Skorup wrote:

I've used RedHat-based shit for like.. ever. Call me a Lunix distro
racist, even RedHat supremacist if you like. Now get off my lawn.



I learned on Red Hat, but the last one I used in production was 9. 
Disliked Fedora Core enough to redo everything in Debian and never 
looked back.


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

[Mathew Howard]

Spiffy! I really like the sound of not having to screw around setting it
up... I'll definitely be giving it a try soon.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> You run it as a VM on your platform of choice, though mine is VMWare. It
> auto sets up the whole environment, OS and all.
>
>
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> -
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> *From: *"Chuck McCown" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2016 8:07:42 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise
>
> I am not much of a VM or linux guy, so please forgive my ignorance.  But
> does this mean you have to run it on an Ubuntu machine?
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett 
> *Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2016 7:04 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise
>
> It's very easy to install, comes as an OVA built on Ubuntu 14.04.
>
> It has a nice TUI for the console to do things like changing IPs, console
> password, etc.
>
> The web UI has an 8 - 16 character password requirement. #shittypasswords
>
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>
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> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
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> The Brothers WISP 
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Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

[Mike Hammett]

hah. I used CentOS until 7, moved to Debian. 

That said, I'll use whatever distro the guide I'm reading is based on. I don't 
have time to figure out differences. 




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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

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- Original Message -

From: "George Skorup"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:27:59 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise 

I've used RedHat-based shit for like.. ever. Call me a Lunix distro racist, 
even RedHat supremacist if you like. Now get off my lawn. 


On 7/8/2016 8:19 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



Debian is better. :-p 




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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

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- Original Message -

From: "George Skorup"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:16:46 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise 

Dear Cambium, y u no CentOS bro? 


On 7/8/2016 8:10 PM, Nathan Anderson wrote: 




So the OVA is Debian or Ubuntu-based? 

-- Nathan 



From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 6:10 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise 


Oh, it comes with VMTools compiled. I would use the open-vm-tools package so it 
updates when I update the rest of the system. 

You can specify your own DNS servers, but it still appends two of Google's for 
you. 

It has packages installed that aren't required, per apt. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -


From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:04:32 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise 

It's very easy to install, comes as an OVA built on Ubuntu 14.04. 

It has a nice TUI for the console to do things like changing IPs, console 
password, etc. 

The web UI has an 8 - 16 character password requirement. #shittypasswords 





- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

[George Skorup]

I've used RedHat-based shit for like.. ever. Call me a Lunix distro 
racist, even RedHat supremacist if you like. Now get off my lawn.


On 7/8/2016 8:19 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Debian is better.  :-p



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"George Skorup" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2016 8:16:46 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

Dear Cambium, y u no CentOS bro?

On 7/8/2016 8:10 PM, Nathan Anderson wrote:

So the OVA is Debian or Ubuntu-based?

-- Nathan

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2016 6:10 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

Oh, it comes with VMTools compiled. I would use the open-vm-tools
package so it updates when I update the rest of the system.

You can specify your own DNS servers, but it still appends two of
Google's for you.

It has packages installed that aren't required, per apt.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 







*From: *"Mike Hammett" >
*To: *af@afmug.com 
*Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2016 8:04:32 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

It's very easy to install, comes as an OVA built on Ubuntu 14.04.

It has a nice TUI for the console to do things like changing IPs,
console password, etc.

The web UI has an 8 - 16 character password requirement.
#shittypasswords



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

[Mike Hammett]

I've been running VMs for ten years. :-p 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Chuck McCown"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:17:05 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise 




It is astounding to be witness to such an acceleration of technology. I 
remember when VMs were scary experimental. And it was not all that long ago 
from my perspective. 




From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 7:11 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise 


You run it as a VM on your platform of choice, though mine is VMWare. It auto 
sets up the whole environment, OS and all. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Chuck McCown"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:07:42 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise 




I am not much of a VM or linux guy, so please forgive my ignorance. But does 
this mean you have to run it on an Ubuntu machine? 




From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 7:04 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise 


It's very easy to install, comes as an OVA built on Ubuntu 14.04. 

It has a nice TUI for the console to do things like changing IPs, console 
password, etc. 

The web UI has an 8 - 16 character password requirement. #shittypasswords 





- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

[Mike Hammett]

cat /etc/debian_version says Jessie. All of the packages say ubuntu0.14.04. 




- 
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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Nathan Anderson"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:10:55 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise 



So the OVA is Debian or Ubuntu-based? 

-- Nathan 



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 6:10 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise 


Oh, it comes with VMTools compiled. I would use the open-vm-tools package so it 
updates when I update the rest of the system. 

You can specify your own DNS servers, but it still appends two of Google's for 
you. 

It has packages installed that aren't required, per apt. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -


From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:04:32 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise 

It's very easy to install, comes as an OVA built on Ubuntu 14.04. 

It has a nice TUI for the console to do things like changing IPs, console 
password, etc. 

The web UI has an 8 - 16 character password requirement. #shittypasswords 





- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

[Mike Hammett]

Debian is better. :-p 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "George Skorup"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:16:46 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise 

Dear Cambium, y u no CentOS bro? 


On 7/8/2016 8:10 PM, Nathan Anderson wrote: 




So the OVA is Debian or Ubuntu-based? 

-- Nathan 



From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 6:10 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise 


Oh, it comes with VMTools compiled. I would use the open-vm-tools package so it 
updates when I update the rest of the system. 

You can specify your own DNS servers, but it still appends two of Google's for 
you. 

It has packages installed that aren't required, per apt. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -


From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:04:32 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise 

It's very easy to install, comes as an OVA built on Ubuntu 14.04. 

It has a nice TUI for the console to do things like changing IPs, console 
password, etc. 

The web UI has an 8 - 16 character password requirement. #shittypasswords 





- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

[Nathan Anderson]

I for one would be ecstatic at an apt-based platform, as that is what I prefer 
to use for my own installs that I manage.

-- Nathan

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 6:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

Dear Cambium, y u no CentOS bro?
On 7/8/2016 8:10 PM, Nathan Anderson wrote:
So the OVA is Debian or Ubuntu-based?

-- Nathan

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 6:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

Oh, it comes with VMTools compiled. I would use the open-vm-tools package so it 
updates when I update the rest of the system.

You can specify your own DNS servers, but it still appends two of Google's for 
you.

It has packages installed that aren't required, per apt.


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From: "Mike Hammett" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:04:32 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise
It's very easy to install, comes as an OVA built on Ubuntu 14.04.

It has a nice TUI for the console to do things like changing IPs, console 
password, etc.

The web UI has an 8 - 16 character password requirement. #shittypasswords




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Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

[Chuck McCown]

It is astounding to be witness to such an acceleration of technology.  I 
remember when VMs were scary experimental.  And it was not all that long ago 
from my perspective. 

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 7:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

You run it as a VM on your platform of choice, though mine is VMWare. It auto 
sets up the whole environment, OS and all.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:07:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise


I am not much of a VM or linux guy, so please forgive my ignorance.  But does 
this mean you have to run it on an Ubuntu machine?

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 7:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

It's very easy to install, comes as an OVA built on Ubuntu 14.04.

It has a nice TUI for the console to do things like changing IPs, console 
password, etc.

The web UI has an 8 - 16 character password requirement. #shittypasswords





-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

[George Skorup]

Dear Cambium, y u no CentOS bro?

On 7/8/2016 8:10 PM, Nathan Anderson wrote:


So the OVA is Debian or Ubuntu-based?

-- Nathan

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2016 6:10 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

Oh, it comes with VMTools compiled. I would use the open-vm-tools 
package so it updates when I update the rest of the system.


You can specify your own DNS servers, but it still appends two of 
Google's for you.


It has packages installed that aren't required, per apt.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







*From: *"Mike Hammett" >
*To: *af@afmug.com 
*Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2016 8:04:32 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

It's very easy to install, comes as an OVA built on Ubuntu 14.04.

It has a nice TUI for the console to do things like changing IPs, 
console password, etc.


The web UI has an 8 - 16 character password requirement. #shittypasswords



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

[Mike Hammett]

You run it as a VM on your platform of choice, though mine is VMWare. It auto 
sets up the whole environment, OS and all. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Chuck McCown"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:07:42 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise 




I am not much of a VM or linux guy, so please forgive my ignorance. But does 
this mean you have to run it on an Ubuntu machine? 




From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 7:04 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise 


It's very easy to install, comes as an OVA built on Ubuntu 14.04. 

It has a nice TUI for the console to do things like changing IPs, console 
password, etc. 

The web UI has an 8 - 16 character password requirement. #shittypasswords 





- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

[Nathan Anderson]

So the OVA is Debian or Ubuntu-based?

-- Nathan

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 6:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

Oh, it comes with VMTools compiled. I would use the open-vm-tools package so it 
updates when I update the rest of the system.

You can specify your own DNS servers, but it still appends two of Google's for 
you.

It has packages installed that aren't required, per apt.


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From: "Mike Hammett" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:04:32 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise
It's very easy to install, comes as an OVA built on Ubuntu 14.04.

It has a nice TUI for the console to do things like changing IPs, console 
password, etc.

The web UI has an 8 - 16 character password requirement. #shittypasswords



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Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

[Mike Hammett]

Oh, it comes with VMTools compiled. I would use the open-vm-tools package so it 
updates when I update the rest of the system. 

You can specify your own DNS servers, but it still appends two of Google's for 
you. 

It has packages installed that aren't required, per apt. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Mike Hammett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:04:32 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise 


It's very easy to install, comes as an OVA built on Ubuntu 14.04. 

It has a nice TUI for the console to do things like changing IPs, console 
password, etc. 

The web UI has an 8 - 16 character password requirement. #shittypasswords 





- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

[Chuck McCown]

I am not much of a VM or linux guy, so please forgive my ignorance.  But does 
this mean you have to run it on an Ubuntu machine?

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 7:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

It's very easy to install, comes as an OVA built on Ubuntu 14.04.

It has a nice TUI for the console to do things like changing IPs, console 
password, etc.

The web UI has an 8 - 16 character password requirement. #shittypasswords





-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

[AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise

[Mike Hammett]

It's very easy to install, comes as an OVA built on Ubuntu 14.04. 

It has a nice TUI for the console to do things like changing IPs, console 
password, etc. 

The web UI has an 8 - 16 character password requirement. #shittypasswords 





- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

Re: [AFMUG] Ignitenet Switch

[Jason McKemie]

Thanks. Have you done any testing with this switch and Mikrotik devices?
I'm specifically interested to see if it works with the RB260GS.

On Friday, July 8, 2016, Harold Bledsoe  wrote:

> Hey Jason,
>
> These should be available now from our distribution partners. Let me know
> if you have any issues finding them!
>
> Thanks,
> Hal
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016, 5:52 PM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Has anyone heard when the Ignitenet Fusionswitch fiber is going to be
>> available?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ignitenet Switch

[Harold Bledsoe]

Hey Jason,

These should be available now from our distribution partners. Let me know
if you have any issues finding them!

Thanks,
Hal

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016, 5:52 PM Jason McKemie 
wrote:

> Has anyone heard when the Ignitenet Fusionswitch fiber is going to be
> available?

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 200

[George Skorup]

All of the Force200's we have used came with 2.6-RC13 I believe. We just 
got some more in the other day so now I'm wondering what's on them.


On 7/8/2016 5:59 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Yeah, it's strange because the Force 200's all just came with 2.6.1 
(or maybe even older... I'm not sure)... it makes me wonder if there 
was a hardware change that required new firmware.


The ePMP 2000's that we just got came with RC firmware, but that I 
don't have a problem with since it's a new product and they obviously 
wanted to get them out there as quick as they could... and they 
require 3.0, which hasn't been released yet.


On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Ken Hohhof > wrote:


Seems like a questionable practice shipping product with beta
firmware, unless the product itself is still in beta.
For that matter, the whole “release candidate” designation is
confusing.  Is that like “presumptive nominee”?  It’s either
released, or it’s beta.
*From:* Mathew Howard 
*Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2016 10:25 AM
*To:* af 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 200
Same here, we always update to the current stable firmware and
load a template on every radio before it leaves the office. It's
odd they're shipping these with an RC though... one of our guys
asked me yesterday if he needed to update one to 2.6.2 since it
was already 2.6.2RC.
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Josh Luthman
>
wrote:

It's always been standard for us to update and template the
radio in the cool office before heading outside.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Vince West
> wrote:

Thanks for the heads up on that. I am working on
scheduling some upgrades to take place on Sunday evening.
All of our current gear is 2.6.2.
Have you loaded 3.0-RC27 on any of them yet?

Vince West
Tower Hand
Technical Support
Shelby Broadband
148 Citizens Blvd
Simpsonville, KY 40067
Phone: 1-888-364-4232 
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Andy Trimmell
> wrote:

I just got a new shipment of Force 200 5ghz in
yesterday and configured them and sent them out on
2.62RC from the factory. Don’t let them leave the shop
with that firmware. It’s missing about 40 freqs in the
DFS ranges. Tech spent an hour service call figuring
it out after hours.

Just upgrade the firmware to 2.62 even though it’s a
2.62RC from the factory. Just fyi to anyone trusting
Cambium before the truck rolls. If this has already
been said I apologize I missed it somewhere.

Andy Trimmell

/Systems Engineer/

*PDS Connect*

317-831-3000 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 200

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah, it's strange because the Force 200's all just came with 2.6.1 (or
maybe even older... I'm not sure)... it makes me wonder if there was a
hardware change that required new firmware.

The ePMP 2000's that we just got came with RC firmware, but that I don't
have a problem with since it's a new product and they obviously wanted to
get them out there as quick as they could... and they require 3.0, which
hasn't been released yet.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Seems like a questionable practice shipping product with beta firmware,
> unless the product itself is still in beta.
>
> For that matter, the whole “release candidate” designation is confusing.
> Is that like “presumptive nominee”?  It’s either released, or it’s beta.
>
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard 
> *Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2016 10:25 AM
> *To:* af 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 200
>
> Same here, we always update to the current stable firmware and load a
> template on every radio before it leaves the office. It's odd they're
> shipping these with an RC though... one of our guys asked me yesterday if
> he needed to update one to 2.6.2 since it was already 2.6.2RC.
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> It's always been standard for us to update and template the radio in the
>> cool office before heading outside.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Vince West  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the heads up on that. I am working on scheduling some
>>> upgrades to take place on Sunday evening. All of our current gear is 2.6.2.
>>>
>>> Have you loaded 3.0-RC27 on any of them yet?
>>>
>>> Vince West
>>> Tower Hand
>>> Technical Support
>>> Shelby Broadband
>>> 148 Citizens Blvd
>>> Simpsonville, KY 40067
>>> Phone: 1-888-364-4232
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Andy Trimmell >> > wrote:
>>>
 I just got a new shipment of Force 200 5ghz in yesterday and configured
 them and sent them out on 2.62RC from the factory. Don’t let them leave the
 shop with that firmware. It’s missing about 40 freqs in the DFS ranges.
 Tech spent an hour service call figuring it out after hours.



 Just upgrade the firmware to 2.62 even though it’s a 2.62RC from the
 factory. Just fyi to anyone trusting Cambium before the truck rolls. If
 this has already been said I apologize I missed it somewhere.



 Andy Trimmell

 *Systems Engineer*

 *PDS Connect*

 317-831-3000



>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 200

[timothy steele]

If they make a dish that looks like a UBNT radio why would they not ship
with Beta firmware like UBNT? Seems Normal to me..

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016, 11:56 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Seems like a questionable practice shipping product with beta firmware,
> unless the product itself is still in beta.
>
> For that matter, the whole “release candidate” designation is confusing.
> Is that like “presumptive nominee”?  It’s either released, or it’s beta.
>
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard 
> *Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2016 10:25 AM
> *To:* af 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 200
>
> Same here, we always update to the current stable firmware and load a
> template on every radio before it leaves the office. It's odd they're
> shipping these with an RC though... one of our guys asked me yesterday if
> he needed to update one to 2.6.2 since it was already 2.6.2RC.
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> It's always been standard for us to update and template the radio in the
>> cool office before heading outside.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Vince West  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the heads up on that. I am working on scheduling some
>>> upgrades to take place on Sunday evening. All of our current gear is 2.6.2.
>>>
>>> Have you loaded 3.0-RC27 on any of them yet?
>>>
>>> Vince West
>>> Tower Hand
>>> Technical Support
>>> Shelby Broadband
>>> 148 Citizens Blvd
>>> Simpsonville, KY 40067
>>> Phone: 1-888-364-4232
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Andy Trimmell >> > wrote:
>>>
 I just got a new shipment of Force 200 5ghz in yesterday and configured
 them and sent them out on 2.62RC from the factory. Don’t let them leave the
 shop with that firmware. It’s missing about 40 freqs in the DFS ranges.
 Tech spent an hour service call figuring it out after hours.



 Just upgrade the firmware to 2.62 even though it’s a 2.62RC from the
 factory. Just fyi to anyone trusting Cambium before the truck rolls. If
 this has already been said I apologize I missed it somewhere.



 Andy Trimmell

 *Systems Engineer*

 *PDS Connect*

 317-831-3000



>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Scary thing to see on a UPS

[chuck]

The higher the temp, the lower the voltage.
At 120 F it would be about 13 volts.  
At –20F it would need to be about 15 volts.

Easier to overcharge when hot.  Harder to fully charge when cold.  
Sucks for electric cars.  

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 4:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary thing to see on a UPS

It adjusts float voltage according to temp.  

From: Sterling Jacobson 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 4:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary thing to see on a UPS

That’s use Alpha UPS rated for outdoor, even in climate controlled cabinets.

 

The batteries should be fine though, if they are sealed AGM?

 

All of my batteries lie underneath the cabinets in the non-climate controlled 
part and have a temperature gauge connected to the Alpha so it adjusts 
something according to temperature of the batteries.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 2:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Scary thing to see on a UPS

 



A very rural POP, not managed by us, had an A/C trip the breaker. That's 122 
deg Fahrenheit.

A router there shows 64 deg C...  I'm afraid of what is happening to those 
batteries.

Re: [AFMUG] Scary thing to see on a UPS

[chuck]

It adjusts float voltage according to temp.  

From: Sterling Jacobson 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 4:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary thing to see on a UPS

That’s use Alpha UPS rated for outdoor, even in climate controlled cabinets.

 

The batteries should be fine though, if they are sealed AGM?

 

All of my batteries lie underneath the cabinets in the non-climate controlled 
part and have a temperature gauge connected to the Alpha so it adjusts 
something according to temperature of the batteries.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 2:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Scary thing to see on a UPS

 



A very rural POP, not managed by us, had an A/C trip the breaker. That's 122 
deg Fahrenheit.

A router there shows 64 deg C...  I'm afraid of what is happening to those 
batteries.

[AFMUG] Ignitenet Switch

[Jason McKemie]

Has anyone heard when the Ignitenet Fusionswitch fiber is going to be
available?

Re: [AFMUG] Door to Door sales

[Jay Weekley]

Seems like if you happen to wrap up an install with line of sight to 
your tower then it would be cheap to hang a little advertising where you 
know you can get some easy installations.


Rory Conaway wrote:


Door to Door sales can be very expensive, as much as $250 per acquired 
customer or more.  I suggest you look at making it your last option to 
increase density in areas you have used other marketing services first.


Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
*Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2016 1:55 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Door to Door sales

I'm guessing this is tied into Facebook's ability to target 
advertising to very specific geographic areas. As an end user when you 
install the facebook app on your phone you give it full permission to 
acquire a GPS location periodically.


How granular are you getting on the location of your advertising? 
Specific zip codes? Town names? Counties?


On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Jeremy > wrote:


I agree with Gino.  We used to spend thousands a month on marketing.  
I get more results from boosting a Facebook post for $300 than I get 
from $10K in radio advertising.  We can hit 22K people in specific 
market areas that we choose and the phone won't stop ringing.  We have 
yet to find anything that even comes close to Facebook for acquiring 
customers.


On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini > wrote:


1 word, Facebook

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Bill Prince > wrote:


Around here, doing door hangers would mean actually walking up to
the house. A good way to get shot or attacked by a guard dog

is to walk into someone's compound.

bp



On 7/8/2016 8:41 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

When I started here wi did something like this, generated a
ton of customers. We did door hangars, ideally customers
werent home to avoid the long talk, less door hangars hung.
The guy doing it went to the target areas with a mast and a
radio and tested signal quickly, he was supposed to write the
signal on the door hangar and leave it (basically said hey! we
can get you the interwebs, we already tested, just call us, we
will install if for free)

I think he got 25 bucks per take and the installer was getting
bonuses too.

The problem ended up toward the end when the door to door guy
just went through all the door hangars and put a good signal
on them and hung them on every door, generated a ton of NLOS
truck rolls (I went on one that was a single story house
buried deep down in the woods, door hangar said -64 on 2.4
ghz... nope)

I dont know what his spiel was to the customers, but he was a
natural talker who was likeable.

The biggest benefit was the "guarantee" because we already
tested it

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Paul McCall > wrote:

Does anyone have a good program they might feel free to share
(offlist or onlist is fine) that they have used for doing Door
to Door sales?

Useful info such as the scripts they use, the commission they
pay, guidelines for sales people, training , etc

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 

pa...@pdmnet.net 

www.pdmnet.com 

www.floridabroadband.com 



-- 


If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part
of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Door to Door sales

[chuck]

The old customer referral credit always worked for me.  

From: Rory Conaway 
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 3:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Door to Door sales

Door to Door sales can be very expensive, as much as $250 per acquired customer 
or more.  I suggest you look at making it your last option to increase density 
in areas you have used other marketing services first.

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 1:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Door to Door sales

 

I'm guessing this is tied into Facebook's ability to target advertising to very 
specific geographic areas. As an end user when you install the facebook app on 
your phone you give it full permission to acquire a GPS location periodically.

How granular are you getting on the location of your advertising? Specific zip 
codes? Town names? Counties? 

 

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

I agree with Gino.  We used to spend thousands a month on marketing.  I get 
more results from boosting a Facebook post for $300 than I get from $10K in 
radio advertising.  We can hit 22K people in specific market areas that we 
choose and the phone won't stop ringing.  We have yet to find anything that 
even comes close to Facebook for acquiring customers.

 

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

1 word, Facebook

 

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

  Around here, doing door hangers would mean actually walking up to the house. 
A good way to get shot or attacked by a guard dog

  is to walk into someone's compound.

bp On 7/8/2016 8:41 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

When I started here wi did something like this, generated a ton of 
customers. We did door hangars, ideally customers werent home to avoid the long 
talk, less door hangars hung. The guy doing it went to the target areas with a 
mast and a radio and tested signal quickly, he was supposed to write the signal 
on the door hangar and leave it (basically said hey! we can get you the 
interwebs, we already tested, just call us, we will install if for free) 

 

I think he got 25 bucks per take and the installer was getting bonuses too.

 

The problem ended up toward the end when the door to door guy just went 
through all the door hangars and put a good signal on them and hung them on 
every door, generated a ton of NLOS truck rolls (I went on one that was a 
single story house buried deep down in the woods, door hangar said -64 on 2.4 
ghz... nope)

 

I dont know what his spiel was to the customers, but he was a natural 
talker who was likeable.

 

The biggest benefit was the "guarantee" because we already tested it

 

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:

Does anyone have a good program they might feel free to share (offlist or 
onlist is fine) that they have used for doing Door to Door sales?

 

Useful info such as the scripts they use, the commission they pay, 
guidelines for sales people, training , etc

 

 

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800  

pa...@pdmnet.net

www.pdmnet.com

www.floridabroadband.com

 

 





 

-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

   

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Door to Door sales

[Rory Conaway]

Door to Door sales can be very expensive, as much as $250 per acquired customer 
or more.  I suggest you look at making it your last option to increase density 
in areas you have used other marketing services first.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 1:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Door to Door sales

I'm guessing this is tied into Facebook's ability to target advertising to very 
specific geographic areas. As an end user when you install the facebook app on 
your phone you give it full permission to acquire a GPS location periodically.
How granular are you getting on the location of your advertising? Specific zip 
codes? Town names? Counties?

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Jeremy 
> wrote:
I agree with Gino.  We used to spend thousands a month on marketing.  I get 
more results from boosting a Facebook post for $300 than I get from $10K in 
radio advertising.  We can hit 22K people in specific market areas that we 
choose and the phone won't stop ringing.  We have yet to find anything that 
even comes close to Facebook for acquiring customers.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
1 word, Facebook

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Bill Prince 
> wrote:

Around here, doing door hangers would mean actually walking up to the house. A 
good way to get shot or attacked by a guard dog

is to walk into someone's compound.

bp




On 7/8/2016 8:41 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
When I started here wi did something like this, generated a ton of customers. 
We did door hangars, ideally customers werent home to avoid the long talk, less 
door hangars hung. The guy doing it went to the target areas with a mast and a 
radio and tested signal quickly, he was supposed to write the signal on the 
door hangar and leave it (basically said hey! we can get you the interwebs, we 
already tested, just call us, we will install if for free)

I think he got 25 bucks per take and the installer was getting bonuses too.

The problem ended up toward the end when the door to door guy just went through 
all the door hangars and put a good signal on them and hung them on every door, 
generated a ton of NLOS truck rolls (I went on one that was a single story 
house buried deep down in the woods, door hangar said -64 on 2.4 ghz... nope)

I dont know what his spiel was to the customers, but he was a natural talker 
who was likeable.

The biggest benefit was the "guarantee" because we already tested it

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Paul McCall 
> wrote:
Does anyone have a good program they might feel free to share (offlist or 
onlist is fine) that they have used for doing Door to Door sales?

Useful info such as the scripts they use, the commission they pay, guidelines 
for sales people, training , etc


Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com





--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Door to Door sales

[Eric Kuhnke]

I'm guessing this is tied into Facebook's ability to target advertising to
very specific geographic areas. As an end user when you install the
facebook app on your phone you give it full permission to acquire a GPS
location periodically.

How granular are you getting on the location of your advertising? Specific
zip codes? Town names? Counties?

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> I agree with Gino.  We used to spend thousands a month on marketing.  I
> get more results from boosting a Facebook post for $300 than I get from
> $10K in radio advertising.  We can hit 22K people in specific market areas
> that we choose and the phone won't stop ringing.  We have yet to find
> anything that even comes close to Facebook for acquiring customers.
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
>
>> 1 word, Facebook
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> Around here, doing door hangers would mean actually walking up to the
>>> house. A good way to get shot or attacked by a guard dog
>>>
>>> is to walk into someone's compound.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/8/2016 8:41 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>> When I started here wi did something like this, generated a ton of
>>> customers. We did door hangars, ideally customers werent home to avoid the
>>> long talk, less door hangars hung. The guy doing it went to the target
>>> areas with a mast and a radio and tested signal quickly, he was supposed to
>>> write the signal on the door hangar and leave it (basically said hey! we
>>> can get you the interwebs, we already tested, just call us, we will install
>>> if for free)
>>>
>>> I think he got 25 bucks per take and the installer was getting bonuses
>>> too.
>>>
>>> The problem ended up toward the end when the door to door guy just went
>>> through all the door hangars and put a good signal on them and hung them on
>>> every door, generated a ton of NLOS truck rolls (I went on one that was a
>>> single story house buried deep down in the woods, door hangar said -64 on
>>> 2.4 ghz... nope)
>>>
>>> I dont know what his spiel was to the customers, but he was a natural
>>> talker who was likeable.
>>>
>>> The biggest benefit was the "guarantee" because we already tested it
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone have a good program they might feel free to share (offlist
 or onlist is fine) that they have used for doing Door to Door sales?



 Useful info such as the scripts they use, the commission they pay,
 guidelines for sales people, training , etc





 Paul McCall, President

 PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

 658 Old Dixie Highway

 Vero Beach, FL 32962

 772-564-6800

 pa...@pdmnet.net

 www.pdmnet.com

 www.floridabroadband.com





>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Door to Door sales

[Jeremy]

I agree with Gino.  We used to spend thousands a month on marketing.  I get
more results from boosting a Facebook post for $300 than I get from $10K in
radio advertising.  We can hit 22K people in specific market areas that we
choose and the phone won't stop ringing.  We have yet to find anything that
even comes close to Facebook for acquiring customers.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

> 1 word, Facebook
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> Around here, doing door hangers would mean actually walking up to the
>> house. A good way to get shot or attacked by a guard dog
>>
>> is to walk into someone's compound.
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 7/8/2016 8:41 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> When I started here wi did something like this, generated a ton of
>> customers. We did door hangars, ideally customers werent home to avoid the
>> long talk, less door hangars hung. The guy doing it went to the target
>> areas with a mast and a radio and tested signal quickly, he was supposed to
>> write the signal on the door hangar and leave it (basically said hey! we
>> can get you the interwebs, we already tested, just call us, we will install
>> if for free)
>>
>> I think he got 25 bucks per take and the installer was getting bonuses
>> too.
>>
>> The problem ended up toward the end when the door to door guy just went
>> through all the door hangars and put a good signal on them and hung them on
>> every door, generated a ton of NLOS truck rolls (I went on one that was a
>> single story house buried deep down in the woods, door hangar said -64 on
>> 2.4 ghz... nope)
>>
>> I dont know what his spiel was to the customers, but he was a natural
>> talker who was likeable.
>>
>> The biggest benefit was the "guarantee" because we already tested it
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone have a good program they might feel free to share (offlist
>>> or onlist is fine) that they have used for doing Door to Door sales?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Useful info such as the scripts they use, the commission they pay,
>>> guidelines for sales people, training , etc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul McCall, President
>>>
>>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>>
>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>>
>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>>
>>> 772-564-6800
>>>
>>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>>
>>> www.pdmnet.com
>>>
>>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sprinkler Controller

[Jeremy]

They haven't legalized grass here yet, so I also just grow vegetables.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> we grow vegetables and stuff... Not grass
> On Jul 8, 2016 2:37 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:
>
>> I irrigate and use hose... You guys are going to turn into those guys on
>> wall E that stopped walking
>> On Jul 8, 2016 2:35 PM, "Jeremy"  wrote:
>>
>>> I installed a Skydrop last year.  It sure makes the yearly testing and
>>> sprinkler replacement nice being able to turn stations on and off from my
>>> phone while walking around the yard.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:33 PM,  wrote:
>>>
 Ripped out a goofy buggy hunter unit and replaced it with a Rain
 Machine.
 I love this.  Can turn on the sprinklers from anywhere in the world.

>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sprinkler Controller

[Jaime Solorza]

I irrigate and use hose... You guys are going to turn into those guys on
wall E that stopped walking
On Jul 8, 2016 2:35 PM, "Jeremy"  wrote:

> I installed a Skydrop last year.  It sure makes the yearly testing and
> sprinkler replacement nice being able to turn stations on and off from my
> phone while walking around the yard.
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:33 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Ripped out a goofy buggy hunter unit and replaced it with a Rain Machine.
>> I love this.  Can turn on the sprinklers from anywhere in the world.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Scary thing to see on a UPS

[Eric Kuhnke]

64C input temperature, 64C internal temperature or exhaust temperature?
Depending where the diode is on the router PCB...

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:

> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> A very rural POP, not managed by us, had an A/C trip the breaker. That's
> 122 deg Fahrenheit.
> A router there shows 64 deg C...  I'm afraid of what is happening to those
> batteries.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sprinkler Controller

[Jaime Solorza]

we grow vegetables and stuff... Not grass
On Jul 8, 2016 2:37 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> I irrigate and use hose... You guys are going to turn into those guys on
> wall E that stopped walking
> On Jul 8, 2016 2:35 PM, "Jeremy"  wrote:
>
>> I installed a Skydrop last year.  It sure makes the yearly testing and
>> sprinkler replacement nice being able to turn stations on and off from my
>> phone while walking around the yard.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:33 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Ripped out a goofy buggy hunter unit and replaced it with a Rain Machine.
>>> I love this.  Can turn on the sprinklers from anywhere in the world.
>>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sprinkler Controller

[Jeremy]

I installed a Skydrop last year.  It sure makes the yearly testing and
sprinkler replacement nice being able to turn stations on and off from my
phone while walking around the yard.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:33 PM,  wrote:

> Ripped out a goofy buggy hunter unit and replaced it with a Rain Machine.
> I love this.  Can turn on the sprinklers from anywhere in the world.
>

[AFMUG] Scary thing to see on a UPS

[Colin Stanners]

[image: Inline image 1]

A very rural POP, not managed by us, had an A/C trip the breaker. That's
122 deg Fahrenheit.
A router there shows 64 deg C...  I'm afraid of what is happening to those
batteries.

Re: [AFMUG] Look what the cat dragged in! #epmp2000

[Gino Villarini]

im started so watch it this weekend! lol 2 seasons down!

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Bruce Robertson  wrote:

> Um...  I know people who haven't caught up on GoT.  Just sayin'...
>
> On 07/08/2016 11:30 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> “So long, interference.”
>
> Yep, and Jon Snow is dead.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LENS

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Ken purchased them alllol 

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium LENS
Date: Fri, Jul 8, 2016 10:36 AM

Only 100 LENs were ever made due to the overwhelming performance of the 
Stinger... ;-)

-Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 9:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium LENS

Does anyone still use these?

We switched to CLIPs a few years back, and I have a bin or two full of
LENSes that I'm wondering if I should post here on a Friday or just throw
them in the dumpster.

Re: [AFMUG] Look what the cat dragged in! #epmp2000

[Bruce Robertson]

Um...  I know people who haven't caught up on GoT.  Just sayin'...

On 07/08/2016 11:30 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

“So long, interference.”
Yep, and Jon Snow is dead.

Re: [AFMUG] Door to Door sales

[Gino Villarini]

1 word, Facebook

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> Around here, doing door hangers would mean actually walking up to the
> house. A good way to get shot or attacked by a guard dog
>
> is to walk into someone's compound.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 7/8/2016 8:41 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> When I started here wi did something like this, generated a ton of
> customers. We did door hangars, ideally customers werent home to avoid the
> long talk, less door hangars hung. The guy doing it went to the target
> areas with a mast and a radio and tested signal quickly, he was supposed to
> write the signal on the door hangar and leave it (basically said hey! we
> can get you the interwebs, we already tested, just call us, we will install
> if for free)
>
> I think he got 25 bucks per take and the installer was getting bonuses too.
>
> The problem ended up toward the end when the door to door guy just went
> through all the door hangars and put a good signal on them and hung them on
> every door, generated a ton of NLOS truck rolls (I went on one that was a
> single story house buried deep down in the woods, door hangar said -64 on
> 2.4 ghz... nope)
>
> I dont know what his spiel was to the customers, but he was a natural
> talker who was likeable.
>
> The biggest benefit was the "guarantee" because we already tested it
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have a good program they might feel free to share (offlist or
>> onlist is fine) that they have used for doing Door to Door sales?
>>
>>
>>
>> Useful info such as the scripts they use, the commission they pay,
>> guidelines for sales people, training , etc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul McCall, President
>>
>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>
>> 772-564-6800
>>
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>> www.pdmnet.com
>>
>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LENS

[chuck]

Yeah, early on we had UV protection issues, sticker material type issues and 
thermoformed plastic.
We later went to injection molded plastic, different stickers, different UV 
protection, weep holes etc etc.


You gotta remember that was 13 years ago when we started the project.  Lots 
of changes along the way.


-Original Message- 
From: Ken Hohhof

Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 10:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LENS

I would have to gather them up and count them.  My suspicion was there
wouldn't be any interest, even just for the cost of shipping.

As far as performance, they performed as advertised, which isn't much.  I
think it was something like 6 dB gain.  Compact but very heavy.  CLIP works
better.

Sorry Chuck, we got away from the Stingers because they didn't stand up well
to the weather.  Performance would decline after a few years, maybe the
metalized tape inside was deteriorating?  Superstingers tended to fill with
water, although the redesign helped with that.  And the plastic got ugly so
we didn't want to redeploy used Stingers at new installs.  We still have
some 2.4 Stingers in use, but not for long, since we are gradually replacing
2.4 with 3.65.

The LENSes got a bit ugly after a few years also, but you only noticed up
close, and I think they are basically a solid block of ceramic so it was
only cosmetic.  They look like they were sandblasted, or like the glossy
finish wore off exposing a ceramic interior.


-Original Message- 
From: Bill Prince

Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 10:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LENS

Post them for sale, and see what happens.

Personally, I don't think they worked all that well...


bp


On 7/8/2016 8:31 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Does anyone still use these?

We switched to CLIPs a few years back, and I have a bin or two full of 
LENSes that I'm wondering if I should post here on a Friday or just throw 
them in the dumpster.

Re: [AFMUG] Door to Door sales

[Bill Prince]

Around here, doing door hangers would mean actually walking up to the 
house. A good way to get shot or attacked by a guard dog


is to walk into someone's compound.

bp


On 7/8/2016 8:41 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
When I started here wi did something like this, generated a ton of 
customers. We did door hangars, ideally customers werent home to avoid 
the long talk, less door hangars hung. The guy doing it went to the 
target areas with a mast and a radio and tested signal quickly, he was 
supposed to write the signal on the door hangar and leave it 
(basically said hey! we can get you the interwebs, we already tested, 
just call us, we will install if for free)


I think he got 25 bucks per take and the installer was getting bonuses 
too.


The problem ended up toward the end when the door to door guy just 
went through all the door hangars and put a good signal on them and 
hung them on every door, generated a ton of NLOS truck rolls (I went 
on one that was a single story house buried deep down in the woods, 
door hangar said -64 on 2.4 ghz... nope)


I dont know what his spiel was to the customers, but he was a natural 
talker who was likeable.


The biggest benefit was the "guarantee" because we already tested it

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Paul McCall > wrote:


Does anyone have a good program they might feel free to share
(offlist or onlist is fine) that they have used for doing Door to
Door sales?

Useful info such as the scripts they use, the commission they pay,
guidelines for sales people, training , etc

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 

pa...@pdmnet.net 

www.pdmnet.com 

www.floridabroadband.com 




--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

[Glen Waldrop]

The “enable long cable” command turns off the safety mechanism for the rest of 
the POE out ports. If there is a short they will not automatically power down.

The only real problem I’ve run into is feeding the Powerbeam M5. If the device 
is plugged into the 750 or Powerbox it powers on no problem. If the 
750/powerbox reboots the Powerbeam isn’t automatically detected and powered on. 
I have to force that port to power on. I’ve had this on three different sites, 
every Powerbeam to Powerbox I’ve had on a tower.

Once set to forced on I’ve had no issues at all.

I’ve got quite a few of these in the field.

I’m going through the rest of the emails on the list to see if there are any 
questions I can answer.



From: Christopher Gray 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 4:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

The PowerBOX version comes with a 2.5A power supply, and PoE adapter / 
injector. I typically just connect that inside the building, and run Cat5e up 
to the PowerBOX.



On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

  You feed it POE?  Where do you get a 2 amp POE?



  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

We always either have the power supply inside a building or in a small 
enclosure, and just feed the PowerBox with PoE... unless there's some kind of 
an outdoor power supply you can buy, I don't know how else you could do it.


On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

  That's awesome!!!  This would be very handy.  How do you seal the power 
supply feeding the Powerbox if it's outdoors?  If I could figure this out I 
wouldn't need any kind of enclosure. 

  http://routerboard.com/RB750P-PBr2






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Mathew Howard  
wrote:

Oh... I thought you were talking about the PowerBox (which is an 
RB750UP in an outdoor case). 


I'm not sure... I would assume it would be the same as if you plug the 
PoE out side of a power injector into something that doesn't support PoE... in 
my experience, they either work fine or something starts smoking :P


Yeah, ether1-poe-in-long-cable would be it, and yes, it only applies on 
ether1.


On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

  They're the same white plastic case as the RB750 if that's what 
you're referring to.  It does have a big fat power supply, though. 

  What happens if you try forced on to something such as a dumb switch 
or laptop?

  Are you talking about ether1-poe-in-long-cable ?  That would only 
apply on ether1, wouldn't it?



  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Mathew Howard  
wrote:

We have a bunch of them out there, the only issue that I've run 
into is that you need to make sure to enable long poe cable mode (or whatever 
it's called... something like that) if you're powering them with PoE, otherwise 
they do some crazy stuff. I've seen some weird stuff happen trying to use 
poe-out auto, so I always set it to forced on. They're pretty much the same 
guts as an RB750UP in an outdoor case... they've been as reliable as any other 
MikroTik, in my experience. 


On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

  Has anyone been using these?  They look just too ideal. 

  I found that the default config (poe-out auto) works out of the 
box for Ubnt and a dumb switch.  Just checking to see if anyone's found them to 
fail or anything obscure out in the field.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Door to Door sales

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

yeah, thats what ours did, if I recall correctly a free install(I may be
wrong it may have been a discounted install), and the signal with the techs
signature. free, semi guaranteed, and a personal touch.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Jeremy  wrote:

> No, and that is one thing that we have considered.  It sounds like that
> may be a better approach.  We have thought about adding a sticker to them
> with a promo or something saying that service is available at this address.
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> what do the door hangars say though, and is there handwriting on them?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Jeremy  wrote:
>>
>>> We get very little response from door hangers.  Door-to-door guys who
>>> can actually sell usually have a much higher take rate if they speak with
>>> the customer.  I think we get calls from about 1 in 200 on door hangers.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 9:41 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 When I started here wi did something like this, generated a ton of
 customers. We did door hangars, ideally customers werent home to avoid the
 long talk, less door hangars hung. The guy doing it went to the target
 areas with a mast and a radio and tested signal quickly, he was supposed to
 write the signal on the door hangar and leave it (basically said hey! we
 can get you the interwebs, we already tested, just call us, we will install
 if for free)

 I think he got 25 bucks per take and the installer was getting bonuses
 too.

 The problem ended up toward the end when the door to door guy just went
 through all the door hangars and put a good signal on them and hung them on
 every door, generated a ton of NLOS truck rolls (I went on one that was a
 single story house buried deep down in the woods, door hangar said -64 on
 2.4 ghz... nope)

 I dont know what his spiel was to the customers, but he was a natural
 talker who was likeable.

 The biggest benefit was the "guarantee" because we already tested it

 On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> Does anyone have a good program they might feel free to share (offlist
> or onlist is fine) that they have used for doing Door to Door sales?
>
>
>
> Useful info such as the scripts they use, the commission they pay,
> guidelines for sales people, training , etc
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>



 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LENS

[Ken Hohhof]

I would have to gather them up and count them.  My suspicion was there 
wouldn't be any interest, even just for the cost of shipping.


As far as performance, they performed as advertised, which isn't much.  I 
think it was something like 6 dB gain.  Compact but very heavy.  CLIP works 
better.


Sorry Chuck, we got away from the Stingers because they didn't stand up well 
to the weather.  Performance would decline after a few years, maybe the 
metalized tape inside was deteriorating?  Superstingers tended to fill with 
water, although the redesign helped with that.  And the plastic got ugly so 
we didn't want to redeploy used Stingers at new installs.  We still have 
some 2.4 Stingers in use, but not for long, since we are gradually replacing 
2.4 with 3.65.


The LENSes got a bit ugly after a few years also, but you only noticed up 
close, and I think they are basically a solid block of ceramic so it was 
only cosmetic.  They look like they were sandblasted, or like the glossy 
finish wore off exposing a ceramic interior.



-Original Message- 
From: Bill Prince

Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 10:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LENS

Post them for sale, and see what happens.

Personally, I don't think they worked all that well...


bp


On 7/8/2016 8:31 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Does anyone still use these?

We switched to CLIPs a few years back, and I have a bin or two full of 
LENSes that I'm wondering if I should post here on a Friday or just throw 
them in the dumpster.

Re: [AFMUG] Door to Door sales

[Jeremy]

No, and that is one thing that we have considered.  It sounds like that may
be a better approach.  We have thought about adding a sticker to them with
a promo or something saying that service is available at this address.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> what do the door hangars say though, and is there handwriting on them?
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Jeremy  wrote:
>
>> We get very little response from door hangers.  Door-to-door guys who can
>> actually sell usually have a much higher take rate if they speak with the
>> customer.  I think we get calls from about 1 in 200 on door hangers.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 9:41 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> When I started here wi did something like this, generated a ton of
>>> customers. We did door hangars, ideally customers werent home to avoid the
>>> long talk, less door hangars hung. The guy doing it went to the target
>>> areas with a mast and a radio and tested signal quickly, he was supposed to
>>> write the signal on the door hangar and leave it (basically said hey! we
>>> can get you the interwebs, we already tested, just call us, we will install
>>> if for free)
>>>
>>> I think he got 25 bucks per take and the installer was getting bonuses
>>> too.
>>>
>>> The problem ended up toward the end when the door to door guy just went
>>> through all the door hangars and put a good signal on them and hung them on
>>> every door, generated a ton of NLOS truck rolls (I went on one that was a
>>> single story house buried deep down in the woods, door hangar said -64 on
>>> 2.4 ghz... nope)
>>>
>>> I dont know what his spiel was to the customers, but he was a natural
>>> talker who was likeable.
>>>
>>> The biggest benefit was the "guarantee" because we already tested it
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone have a good program they might feel free to share (offlist
 or onlist is fine) that they have used for doing Door to Door sales?



 Useful info such as the scripts they use, the commission they pay,
 guidelines for sales people, training , etc





 Paul McCall, President

 PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

 658 Old Dixie Highway

 Vero Beach, FL 32962

 772-564-6800

 pa...@pdmnet.net

 www.pdmnet.com

 www.floridabroadband.com





>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Door to Door sales

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

what do the door hangars say though, and is there handwriting on them?


On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Jeremy  wrote:

> We get very little response from door hangers.  Door-to-door guys who can
> actually sell usually have a much higher take rate if they speak with the
> customer.  I think we get calls from about 1 in 200 on door hangers.
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 9:41 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> When I started here wi did something like this, generated a ton of
>> customers. We did door hangars, ideally customers werent home to avoid the
>> long talk, less door hangars hung. The guy doing it went to the target
>> areas with a mast and a radio and tested signal quickly, he was supposed to
>> write the signal on the door hangar and leave it (basically said hey! we
>> can get you the interwebs, we already tested, just call us, we will install
>> if for free)
>>
>> I think he got 25 bucks per take and the installer was getting bonuses
>> too.
>>
>> The problem ended up toward the end when the door to door guy just went
>> through all the door hangars and put a good signal on them and hung them on
>> every door, generated a ton of NLOS truck rolls (I went on one that was a
>> single story house buried deep down in the woods, door hangar said -64 on
>> 2.4 ghz... nope)
>>
>> I dont know what his spiel was to the customers, but he was a natural
>> talker who was likeable.
>>
>> The biggest benefit was the "guarantee" because we already tested it
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone have a good program they might feel free to share (offlist
>>> or onlist is fine) that they have used for doing Door to Door sales?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Useful info such as the scripts they use, the commission they pay,
>>> guidelines for sales people, training , etc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul McCall, President
>>>
>>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>>
>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>>
>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>>
>>> 772-564-6800
>>>
>>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>>
>>> www.pdmnet.com
>>>
>>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

[AFMUG] ISP Radio Today

[Dennis Burgess]

Getting ready to start in the next few min with Patrick Leary with Baicells 
talking about their LTE Gear on www.ispradio.com

[DennisBurgessSignature]
www.linktechs.net - 314-735-0270 x103 - 
dmburg...@linktechs.net

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 200

[Ken Hohhof]

Seems like a questionable practice shipping product with beta firmware, unless 
the product itself is still in beta.

For that matter, the whole “release candidate” designation is confusing.  Is 
that like “presumptive nominee”?  It’s either released, or it’s beta.


From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 10:25 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 200

Same here, we always update to the current stable firmware and load a template 
on every radio before it leaves the office. It's odd they're shipping these 
with an RC though... one of our guys asked me yesterday if he needed to update 
one to 2.6.2 since it was already 2.6.2RC.


On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

  It's always been standard for us to update and template the radio in the cool 
office before heading outside.



  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Vince West  wrote:

Thanks for the heads up on that. I am working on scheduling some upgrades 
to take place on Sunday evening. All of our current gear is 2.6.2. 

Have you loaded 3.0-RC27 on any of them yet?


Vince West 
Tower Hand

Technical Support
Shelby Broadband
148 Citizens Blvd
Simpsonville, KY 40067
Phone: 1-888-364-4232

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Andy Trimmell  
wrote:

  I just got a new shipment of Force 200 5ghz in yesterday and configured 
them and sent them out on 2.62RC from the factory. Don’t let them leave the 
shop with that firmware. It’s missing about 40 freqs in the DFS ranges. Tech 
spent an hour service call figuring it out after hours. 



  Just upgrade the firmware to 2.62 even though it’s a 2.62RC from the 
factory. Just fyi to anyone trusting Cambium before the truck rolls. If this 
has already been said I apologize I missed it somewhere.



  Andy Trimmell

  Systems Engineer

  PDS Connect

  317-831-3000

Re: [AFMUG] Door to Door sales

[Jeremy]

We get very little response from door hangers.  Door-to-door guys who can
actually sell usually have a much higher take rate if they speak with the
customer.  I think we get calls from about 1 in 200 on door hangers.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 9:41 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> When I started here wi did something like this, generated a ton of
> customers. We did door hangars, ideally customers werent home to avoid the
> long talk, less door hangars hung. The guy doing it went to the target
> areas with a mast and a radio and tested signal quickly, he was supposed to
> write the signal on the door hangar and leave it (basically said hey! we
> can get you the interwebs, we already tested, just call us, we will install
> if for free)
>
> I think he got 25 bucks per take and the installer was getting bonuses too.
>
> The problem ended up toward the end when the door to door guy just went
> through all the door hangars and put a good signal on them and hung them on
> every door, generated a ton of NLOS truck rolls (I went on one that was a
> single story house buried deep down in the woods, door hangar said -64 on
> 2.4 ghz... nope)
>
> I dont know what his spiel was to the customers, but he was a natural
> talker who was likeable.
>
> The biggest benefit was the "guarantee" because we already tested it
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have a good program they might feel free to share (offlist or
>> onlist is fine) that they have used for doing Door to Door sales?
>>
>>
>>
>> Useful info such as the scripts they use, the commission they pay,
>> guidelines for sales people, training , etc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul McCall, President
>>
>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>
>> 772-564-6800
>>
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>> www.pdmnet.com
>>
>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Door to Door sales

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

When I started here wi did something like this, generated a ton of
customers. We did door hangars, ideally customers werent home to avoid the
long talk, less door hangars hung. The guy doing it went to the target
areas with a mast and a radio and tested signal quickly, he was supposed to
write the signal on the door hangar and leave it (basically said hey! we
can get you the interwebs, we already tested, just call us, we will install
if for free)

I think he got 25 bucks per take and the installer was getting bonuses too.

The problem ended up toward the end when the door to door guy just went
through all the door hangars and put a good signal on them and hung them on
every door, generated a ton of NLOS truck rolls (I went on one that was a
single story house buried deep down in the woods, door hangar said -64 on
2.4 ghz... nope)

I dont know what his spiel was to the customers, but he was a natural
talker who was likeable.

The biggest benefit was the "guarantee" because we already tested it

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> Does anyone have a good program they might feel free to share (offlist or
> onlist is fine) that they have used for doing Door to Door sales?
>
>
>
> Useful info such as the scripts they use, the commission they pay,
> guidelines for sales people, training , etc
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LENS

[Chuck McCown]

Only 100 LENs were ever made due to the overwhelming performance of the 
Stinger... ;-)


-Original Message- 
From: Ken Hohhof

Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 9:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium LENS

Does anyone still use these?

We switched to CLIPs a few years back, and I have a bin or two full of
LENSes that I'm wondering if I should post here on a Friday or just throw
them in the dumpster.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LENS

[Bill Prince]

Post them for sale, and see what happens.

Personally, I don't think they worked all that well...


bp


On 7/8/2016 8:31 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Does anyone still use these?

We switched to CLIPs a few years back, and I have a bin or two full of 
LENSes that I'm wondering if I should post here on a Friday or just 
throw them in the dumpster.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LENS

[Josh Luthman]

Dude today is Friday.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Does anyone still use these?
>
> We switched to CLIPs a few years back, and I have a bin or two full of
> LENSes that I'm wondering if I should post here on a Friday or just throw
> them in the dumpster.
>
>

[AFMUG] Cambium LENS

[Ken Hohhof]

Does anyone still use these?

We switched to CLIPs a few years back, and I have a bin or two full of 
LENSes that I'm wondering if I should post here on a Friday or just throw 
them in the dumpster. 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 200

[Mathew Howard]

Same here, we always update to the current stable firmware and load a
template on every radio before it leaves the office. It's odd they're
shipping these with an RC though... one of our guys asked me yesterday if
he needed to update one to 2.6.2 since it was already 2.6.2RC.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> It's always been standard for us to update and template the radio in the
> cool office before heading outside.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Vince West  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the heads up on that. I am working on scheduling some upgrades
>> to take place on Sunday evening. All of our current gear is 2.6.2.
>>
>> Have you loaded 3.0-RC27 on any of them yet?
>>
>> Vince West
>> Tower Hand
>> Technical Support
>> Shelby Broadband
>> 148 Citizens Blvd
>> Simpsonville, KY 40067
>> Phone: 1-888-364-4232
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Andy Trimmell 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just got a new shipment of Force 200 5ghz in yesterday and configured
>>> them and sent them out on 2.62RC from the factory. Don’t let them leave the
>>> shop with that firmware. It’s missing about 40 freqs in the DFS ranges.
>>> Tech spent an hour service call figuring it out after hours.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just upgrade the firmware to 2.62 even though it’s a 2.62RC from the
>>> factory. Just fyi to anyone trusting Cambium before the truck rolls. If
>>> this has already been said I apologize I missed it somewhere.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy Trimmell
>>>
>>> *Systems Engineer*
>>>
>>> *PDS Connect*
>>>
>>> 317-831-3000
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] FS: 430 SM's and AP's

[Jaime Solorza]

How about a drink and nice wink?
On Jul 8, 2016 8:44 AM, "Sam Lambie"  wrote:

> I am selling working pulls of:
> 2 - 5780 AP
> 1 - 5480 SP
>
> 20 - 5.4 - 430 SM's mostly 10 mbps
> 20 - 5.8 - 430 SM's mostly 10 mbps
>
> Make me an offer. And not $50 and a doughnut...
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 200

[Josh Luthman]

It's always been standard for us to update and template the radio in the
cool office before heading outside.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Vince West  wrote:

> Thanks for the heads up on that. I am working on scheduling some upgrades
> to take place on Sunday evening. All of our current gear is 2.6.2.
>
> Have you loaded 3.0-RC27 on any of them yet?
>
> Vince West
> Tower Hand
> Technical Support
> Shelby Broadband
> 148 Citizens Blvd
> Simpsonville, KY 40067
> Phone: 1-888-364-4232
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Andy Trimmell 
> wrote:
>
>> I just got a new shipment of Force 200 5ghz in yesterday and configured
>> them and sent them out on 2.62RC from the factory. Don’t let them leave the
>> shop with that firmware. It’s missing about 40 freqs in the DFS ranges.
>> Tech spent an hour service call figuring it out after hours.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just upgrade the firmware to 2.62 even though it’s a 2.62RC from the
>> factory. Just fyi to anyone trusting Cambium before the truck rolls. If
>> this has already been said I apologize I missed it somewhere.
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy Trimmell
>>
>> *Systems Engineer*
>>
>> *PDS Connect*
>>
>> 317-831-3000
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 200

[Vince West]

Thanks for the heads up on that. I am working on scheduling some upgrades
to take place on Sunday evening. All of our current gear is 2.6.2.

Have you loaded 3.0-RC27 on any of them yet?

Vince West
Tower Hand
Technical Support
Shelby Broadband
148 Citizens Blvd
Simpsonville, KY 40067
Phone: 1-888-364-4232

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Andy Trimmell 
wrote:

> I just got a new shipment of Force 200 5ghz in yesterday and configured
> them and sent them out on 2.62RC from the factory. Don’t let them leave the
> shop with that firmware. It’s missing about 40 freqs in the DFS ranges.
> Tech spent an hour service call figuring it out after hours.
>
>
>
> Just upgrade the firmware to 2.62 even though it’s a 2.62RC from the
> factory. Just fyi to anyone trusting Cambium before the truck rolls. If
> this has already been said I apologize I missed it somewhere.
>
>
>
> Andy Trimmell
>
> *Systems Engineer*
>
> *PDS Connect*
>
> 317-831-3000
>
>
>

[AFMUG] FS: 430 SM's and AP's

[Sam Lambie]

I am selling working pulls of:
2 - 5780 AP
1 - 5480 SP

20 - 5.4 - 430 SM's mostly 10 mbps
20 - 5.8 - 430 SM's mostly 10 mbps

Make me an offer. And not $50 and a doughnut...

Sam



-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

[AFMUG] ePMP Force 200

[Andy Trimmell]

I just got a new shipment of Force 200 5ghz in yesterday and configured
them and sent them out on 2.62RC from the factory. Don't let them leave
the shop with that firmware. It's missing about 40 freqs in the DFS
ranges. Tech spent an hour service call figuring it out after hours. 

 

Just upgrade the firmware to 2.62 even though it's a 2.62RC from the
factory. Just fyi to anyone trusting Cambium before the truck rolls. If
this has already been said I apologize I missed it somewhere.

 

Andy Trimmell

Systems Engineer

PDS Connect

317-831-3000

 

[AFMUG] Door to Door sales

[Paul McCall]

Does anyone have a good program they might feel free to share (offlist or 
onlist is fine) that they have used for doing Door to Door sales?

Useful info such as the scripts they use, the commission they pay, guidelines 
for sales people, training , etc


Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com

[AFMUG] OpenCellular

[Stefan Englhardt]

Sounds early but quite interesting.

Referencing to https://telecominfraproject.com/

And there is a member named Bai Cells ;-))



As Facebook will make it open source at least it may help smaller

Vendors.