Re: [AFMUG] OT BTC
Yes. This is going to be a blood bath. By all means, buy and hodl, friends, but never buy more than you can afford to lose. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT BTC Tulips! Tulips! From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 5:33 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] OT BTC OMG People are taking out mortgages to buy bitcoin, says securities regulator Joseph Borg. Coupled with accounts of credit cards and equity loans being used to obtain bitcoin, it raises the possibility of risk-taking investors being left deeply indebted or potentially even homeless.
Re: [AFMUG] OT : Interstellar asteroid checked for alien technology - BBC News
This telescope is powerful enough to detect the RF levels of a cell phone. Taking into account the fact that this asteroid has gained worldwide interest, it’s safe to assume there’s plenty of pinging going on right now with amateur radar (to measure distance, trajectory, makeup, etc)… hopefully those reflections don’t trigger a false positive. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:27 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT : Interstellar asteroid checked for alien technology - BBC News Of course...it's always Aliens Jaime Solorza On Dec 12, 2017 12:24 PM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: -- Original Message -- From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: 12/12/2017 2:23:57 PM Subject: [AFMUG] OT : Interstellar asteroid checked for alien technology - BBC News Wonder which 4 frequency bands? http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-42329244 Jaime Solorza
Re: [AFMUG] Bitcoin Worth Millions Stolen Days Before US Exchange Opens | Business News | US News
That is the game the big banks and super rich have been playing with the stock market since its inception. Nothing new. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 11:03 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bitcoin Worth Millions Stolen Days Before US Exchange Opens | Business News | US News Seems to me that if somebody (with unlimited funds, presumably) wanted to kill it, the best way would be to run it up to crazy high prices, and then crash it... that's going to scare most people off for a long time. On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Brian Webster wrote: Or maybe the World Bank doesn’t like this one bit and sponsored the hack to scare people and have them running back to government sponsored paper money. Can’t imagine Rothschild’s were going to just sit there and let something they didn’t control take over like this. Their empire is way too big to just sit still and let a new system take hold. Thank You, Brian Webster From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 11:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bitcoin Worth Millions Stolen Days Before US Exchange Opens | Business News | US News Im wondering if it wasnt an internal graft. Josh was just nearing his payout, when this happenned hes like meh. How many thousands of others were in the ame spot. The wallet gets miraculously recovered with an apology to those who lost their near payout with a promise of "we will try harder" Thieves always doing thievy shit and stuff On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: Pretty much. A good exchange keeps the vast majority of their funds offline, i.e on a usb key with a paper copy in a safe, and only keeps whatever float they need online and insures it. On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Robert wrote: So, if I have this right, someone cracked into someones "wallet" got their encryption key and used it to generate a new "transaction" that creates a new owner of the sum of bitcoin with a new encryption key and that act is added to the blockchain distributed database? On 12/7/17 6:59 AM, Steve Jones wrote: Not the same. You can identify that money in one way or another sonetimes, all the time if its cash and you wrote down the serials. Fdic doesnt insure your money. It insures the value of your money in its jurisdictional institutuions in exchange for you letting them use that value. They just choose the risk level theyre willing to take. Take 100 dollar bill to the bank, write down the serial. Come back the next day and withdraw it. Different serial, not your money, your moneys value. The decentralized nature of cryptocurrency means there is nowhere to turn. There is no serial only transactions. Coinage aside thats where one of the many failures of cryptocurrency falls. The dark nature of it ensures there will never be anything about it that makes one bitcoin identifiable from another, if that were to happen, it would collapse. Just wait until the bug is found that answers the initial question, and a duplicated and indiscernable wallet hits. Thats a matter of time. Then, noone even has to steal, they just invalidate your entire wallet with one transaction. With counterfeit money, you can identify it, destroy it, remove it from circulation without invalidating someone elses money. Thats why fiat and precious metal backed currencies have an accompanying authoritative enforcement agency. On Dec 7, 2017 8:42 AM, "Josh Reynolds" mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote: Same as if somebody punches you and takes your wallet, or takes more than the 250,000K the FDIC insures out of your $20mil bank account. On Dec 7, 2017 8:26 AM, "Steve Jones" mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote: Recreating it is the same as counterfitting. If i lose 100 bucks while im out. I cant wake up and when the hangover cures, just print a new bill. Crypto currency is by nature "anonymous" whoever posseses it owns it, not like a stock or bond thats got a trail of identifiable ownership. This is why it will never function as an actual currency, its just a digital commodity with no inherent safety net. Even a gold bar you can stamp. One bitcoin is theoretically indiscernable from another, so even if you tracked it, you couldnt prove ownership. With no central backing, even if you could, theres no enforcement body to make anyone give it back aside from a hard fork On Dec 7, 2017 8:17 AM, "Gino A. Villarini" mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote: Right.. Same idea From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Matt Hoppes mailto:mattli...@river
Re: [AFMUG] BTC 18k
Different exchanges trade at different rates based on the amount of buyers and sellers they serve. Kinda like how you can buy a Civic at one Honda dealership for $20k, and the same exact car at a different dealership for $19k. They’re going to be around the same price except during periods of extreme volatility. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 9:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BTC 18k Looks cool but they show the peak in the last 2 hours to be $15,356... yet GDAX itself shows a peak of $20k during that same time?? Travis On 12/7/2017 10:34 AM, Jesse DuPont wrote: You guys should check out aitrader.us. It uses a custom algorithm and GDAX (coinbase) API to do auto-trading for you, based on the thresholds you set. High-level overview: it will potentially buy BTC every 4 hours, based on the moving average and your buy sensitivity setting. For selling back to USD, it looks every minute at the BTC value (compared to USD) and once it falls below your trailing stop threshold, it issues API command to trade back to USD. So during all this, my account auto traded to BTC yesterday at 4:00 AM and it just traded back to USD today at 4:34 PM. I gained 45% and didn't have to babysit it! Aitrader.us is $99/mo so you'd need to have a few thousand USD trading, but unless BTC has a downward moving average over mutliple weeks, you'll almost always gain because the actual BTC value doesn't matter, just the relative gains between buys and sell. If you sign up, my referral code is BZQECIBCDOZK and we both get $40 USD put into our accounts. Jesse DuPont Network Architect email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net Celerity Networks LLC Celerity Broadband LLC Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband On 12/7/17 9:36 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: I had to jump back in this morning and now we are at $18k. :) This is nuts. Travis
Re: [AFMUG] BTC 12k+
For Steve. J https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbZ8zDpX2Mg Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Louis Arsenault Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 1:48 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BTC 12k+ I can wipe that and make $10... LOL. On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: To a "Batman" usb drive On 12/06/2017 01:27 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: don't leave your coin on coinbase move it to a more safe wallet or completely off line if you're paranoid On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Chuck Hogg mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>> wrote: I'm waiting for the Coinbase hack...that will really hit hard since they are handling more transactions than Mastercard. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote: how many people who believe this as a "currency" are missing FDIC insurance today? On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Chuck Hogg mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>> wrote: Yea, we're affected by NiceHash as well. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Joe Novak mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com>> wrote: Speaking of hacks... I've been selling hashing power to Nicehash, woke up this morning and my miner isn't running... hmm. Nicehash's wallet all got emptied to a unknown address (at least unknown to us, the users). 60 million worth of BTC. I was about half way to my pay out (minimum 0.01 BTC per payout). No official word yet, tread carefully... Joe On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Travis Johnson mailto:t...@ida.net>> wrote: I sold 110 coins about 3 years ago and took a huge loss. I got back in at $6,400/btc and sold at $9,800. Then I got back in at $10,500 and just sold this morning at $12,700. It scares the hell out of me to have money sitting there, especially when it could crash while I'm asleep at night... but it's also so addictive to make huge returns (16% after fees, etc. just this month). It's a huge bubble. There is nothing to support it. When you buy in, you are counting on someone willing to pay you more than you paid for it, but for no good reason. It's the .COM era again, except without the .COM. LOL Travis On 12/6/2017 2:28 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: Still crying over the 85 I sold at $1k each� you still have? On 12/5/17, 10:37 PM, "Af on behalf of Travis Johnson" mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of t...@ida.net <mailto:t...@ida.net>> wrote: How high can it go?? When do you sell?? What's a "fair" return?? Travis -- -Louis NTInet O: 803-533-1660 X 207 C: 803-997-0004
Re: [AFMUG] BTC 12k+
Eh, I’m out about fifteen bucks. You can (and should) set it up to automatically transfer your BTC to your personal wallet when it reaches the minimum amount (0.01 BTC, or about $130 US), but some people opted to keep all their accruals in NiceHash’s wallet and now they’re paying the hefty price. So if you were using them *correctly*, you’d only be out less than 0.01 BTC. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 12:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BTC 12k+ how many people who believe this as a "currency" are missing FDIC insurance today? On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Yea, we're affected by NiceHash as well. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Joe Novak wrote: Speaking of hacks... I've been selling hashing power to Nicehash, woke up this morning and my miner isn't running... hmm. Nicehash's wallet all got emptied to a unknown address (at least unknown to us, the users). 60 million worth of BTC. I was about half way to my pay out (minimum 0.01 BTC per payout). No official word yet, tread carefully... Joe On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: I sold 110 coins about 3 years ago and took a huge loss. I got back in at $6,400/btc and sold at $9,800. Then I got back in at $10,500 and just sold this morning at $12,700. It scares the hell out of me to have money sitting there, especially when it could crash while I'm asleep at night... but it's also so addictive to make huge returns (16% after fees, etc. just this month). It's a huge bubble. There is nothing to support it. When you buy in, you are counting on someone willing to pay you more than you paid for it, but for no good reason. It's the .COM era again, except without the .COM. LOL Travis On 12/6/2017 2:28 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: Still crying over the 85 I sold at $1k each� you still have? On 12/5/17, 10:37 PM, "Af on behalf of Travis Johnson" wrote: How high can it go?? When do you sell?? What's a "fair" return?? Travis
Re: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish
Everything works beautifully at 700’. At this distance it’s more about cost savings. Don’t waste your time with AF24 when a 60ghz link at 1/3 the cost and twice the throughput will fit the bill perfectly. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 4:59 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish I wouldn't use IgnetNet if I already had the airFibers there... if it's only going to be feeding an 11ghz link that's around 700ish meg, the AF24 link will handle that perfectly fine, and I see no reason to mess with it. Ignitenets should work beautifully on a 700ft link, but if I only needed 700Mbps, I'd rather have airFibers. If it gets to the point where ~700Mbps isn't enough, then yes, I'd use IgniteNet. On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'd use IgniteNet over airFiber for 700 feet. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Steve Jones" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 3:28:11 PM Subject: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish We have a phenomenal saf lumina link we get 366 out of. I can 2+0 this to get to 732. using the existing 3 and 4 foot antennas I wouldnt mind seeing a little more of our gigabit upstream connectivity utilized here, somewhere along the same price using the same antennas Im not at all impressed with the mimosa gear, its not full duplex and putting that much variable latency into the network bringing our bandwidth into the core of our network just seems like moving backward. before I give my blessing, for what its worth, to the boss to order the SAF gear, I just want to make sure there isnt a better option. Lumina is older and nearing EOL im guessing, we have other places the units can be used. on the same note, we bring this bandwidth up from the fiber by AF24 700 feet, so probably should ask about a 24ghz (or anything) short link solution. Im assuming af24hd will meet that need
Re: [AFMUG] BTC
Sure, but then you run the very real risk of your transaction being unconfirmed indefinitely because there is no incentive for anyone to mine it. If there were no fees then any one user could DoS the network with bogus transactions. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BTC There's nothing stopping you from using it without paying, you just don't move it through a broker or exchange. If you send me Bitcoin direct wallet to wallet, it's free. If I pay someone for services in BTC, it's free. If I mine BTC, I don't have to pay anyone. There's only a cost if I want to exchange it from or to another currency, which is pretty standard. As far as your statements about it not making sense, you are completely right - if those are your primary requirements (insurance, fraud handling, etc) Bitcoin is not a good replacement for your VISA card. On 11/17/2017 2:43 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I agree with most of what you said here... however, the original premise for BTC was that everyone was tired of the "banks" controlling the money... and charging fees to do so. I just really don't see how that has changed much... I currently have 4 or 5 bank accounts, all at different banks... and I control all of them from my computer. I can send/receive/wire/transfer money in and out of any of them at my own will. Also, how is sending BTC from wallet to wallet not free? I have sent BTC to other people without being charged a fee... I was doing it from my own wallet on a computer, not using a service. For me it just doesn't make sense... I can have a totally free bank account with an ATM/VISA card that I can use anywhere and not have to worry about getting hit with fees or the value of my "money" changing every 5 seconds... and it's insured and if there is an issue (fraud, etc) the bank covers it. I get none of those features with BTC, and I have to pay a much higher "fee" to use it. The current state of BTC is not how it was envisioned when it was first created. It has become commercialized and everyone is after their 1.5% fee. :( Travis On 11/17/2017 12:28 PM, Chris Wright wrote: Many of the negative things you say here about BTC are questions I had when I was still learning. Let me clear some things up. Coinbase charges for when you want to buy BTC with fiat (USD). They have a business to run. Everyone here knows that processing debit/ACH payments is NOT free. Onboarding your US dollars to crypto currency will require a gateway, and every gate requires a gatekeeper, and every gatekeeper has mouths to feed. Sending BTC from wallet to wallet is not free. Current transaction fees on Bitcoin are ~$10 USD at the time I'm writing this. Other crypto currencies like Ethereum are more robust in this area (~$0.30 currently). Every transaction needs to be written to the blockchain, which requires mining time, electricity, and processing. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are doing what the banks have been doing for years... it's an electronic ledger. What's a bank statement worth? It's only a piece of printed paper or numbers on a screen that show how much currency to which one is entitled. It has no value in and of itself. A US dollar bill is simply paper; its value is whatever we all agree it is. The *big* thing cryptocurrencies bring to the table is that your "bank account" is no longer controlled by one central building. Your account, or "digital wallet" is controlled by thousands of computers, each checking themselves against the other. The only way someone can hijack the blockchain would be if they controlled more than 50% of the compute power in the mining world. Think about how many vectors of attack from which our traditional banks are vulnerable. This video answered even more questions I didn't even think to ask... I highly recommend giving it your time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBC-nXj3Ng4 Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] BTC Hi, The entire idea and goal of bitcoin was to take away the financial institutions from having "control" and charging fees to handle money. In exchange for no fees (sending or receiving BTC is free), you also have no security. Once it's sent, it's gone. However, now the banks have just been replaced with places like Coinbase... bitcoin "exchanges" that charge roughly 1.5% for every buy/sell transaction... and they take 7-10 business days to convert btc to cash or visa versa. I don't see how this is a long term thing? Once al
Re: [AFMUG] BTC
Many of the negative things you say here about BTC are questions I had when I was still learning. Let me clear some things up. Coinbase charges for when you want to buy BTC with fiat (USD). They have a business to run. Everyone here knows that processing debit/ACH payments is NOT free. Onboarding your US dollars to crypto currency will require a gateway, and every gate requires a gatekeeper, and every gatekeeper has mouths to feed. Sending BTC from wallet to wallet is not free. Current transaction fees on Bitcoin are ~$10 USD at the time I'm writing this. Other crypto currencies like Ethereum are more robust in this area (~$0.30 currently). Every transaction needs to be written to the blockchain, which requires mining time, electricity, and processing. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are doing what the banks have been doing for years... it's an electronic ledger. What's a bank statement worth? It's only a piece of printed paper or numbers on a screen that show how much currency to which one is entitled. It has no value in and of itself. A US dollar bill is simply paper; its value is whatever we all agree it is. The *big* thing cryptocurrencies bring to the table is that your "bank account" is no longer controlled by one central building. Your account, or "digital wallet" is controlled by thousands of computers, each checking themselves against the other. The only way someone can hijack the blockchain would be if they controlled more than 50% of the compute power in the mining world. Think about how many vectors of attack from which our traditional banks are vulnerable. This video answered even more questions I didn't even think to ask... I highly recommend giving it your time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBC-nXj3Ng4 Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] BTC Hi, The entire idea and goal of bitcoin was to take away the financial institutions from having "control" and charging fees to handle money. In exchange for no fees (sending or receiving BTC is free), you also have no security. Once it's sent, it's gone. However, now the banks have just been replaced with places like Coinbase... bitcoin "exchanges" that charge roughly 1.5% for every buy/sell transaction... and they take 7-10 business days to convert btc to cash or visa versa. I don't see how this is a long term thing? Once all the "mining" is being done by huge datacenters (for another 3-4 years is all), then I don't see it becoming the new money standard like everyone thinks. You will still have to pay fees, and someone else is still in control of your money. :( Travis
Re: [AFMUG] Platypus Help
If you do any kind of custom reports, the templates typically get wiped whenever you upgrade. Pretty amazing, actually. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 10:09 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Platypus Help *sigh* I finally got to someone else's PC and it became self-evident. Somehow the server's IP changed, which is why no one would connect. Somehow the one user I was working with lost their ODBC connection. Now people can connect. I heard there has been an issue getting reports, but I suppose more on that later. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Darren Shea" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 11:59:54 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Platypus Help Mike, On a Windows system, you’d find the ODBC config in “Windows Administrative Tools” -> ODBC Data Sources (32-bit). Look in the System DSN tab. When I install the client, one of the earliest steps in the installation is configuring the server access – there is a Test Database Connection step that will tell you if the client machine can successfully connect to the database. If that’s good, then you should be fine. When you launch the client software, does it ask which database you want to use, or does it go to the Platypus window with the Login dialog box? n Darren From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 11:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Platypus Help On the client side, I don't see where the ODBC points to the server. Where do I find that? I've successfully created a new user in SQL and got the client installed on the server to at least connect to the system. I don't have a Plat login, so I can't do anything there, but I got that far at least. I don't know how to check the clients are talking to the right place. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 11:13:24 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Platypus Help Tucows support is pretty responsive (assuming they're paying for it). That said, the client is a front end for an MSSQL database. If the MSSQL database is up and the client has the correct ODBC source set up, then that's like 90% of it. -- Original Message -- From: "Mike Hammett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 11/14/2017 12:10:56 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Platypus Help Do any of you with experience with Platypus have a few minutes? A client of mine has a down Platypus system and with my first experience with Platypus being a non-functional system, I'm not sure how a few things are supposed to work. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
Re: [AFMUG] Hal's email address
Harold Bledsoe hbled...@ignitenet.com Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 7:41 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Hal's email address Hello vatos locos...can someone send me Hal from IgniteNet email address for favor? Have a possible custom project for video transport...
Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
If you bought on Coinbase using ACH it purchases the BTC immediately but takes a week to post. When it posts you receive the amount you paid for as it was valued at the time you initiated the purchase. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 9:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA Keep in mind, it takes 3-5 business days to get money into an account to buy any "substantial" amount. I started the transfer two days ago and I'm still waiting... watching it go up and up and up. :( Travis On 11/2/2017 10:32 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: Never mind, it hit 7k today. Would've made $1000 in 2 days if I'd bought it two days ago. Still not gonna do it now! On 11/2/2017 11:31 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: Every time Bitcoin goes up another thousand dollars, I kick myself for not buying it but then say 'well, it'd be stupid to buy it now.' Said it at $1000, $2000, $4000, now it's at $6000.. no way I'm buying it now. Pretty sure I'll be saying this again at $7000. On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Too much of a chicken.� � From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA � TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!! � From: Af on behalf of Chuck McCown Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA � If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.� 250 for certain.� � Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 -- Simon Westlake Email: simon@sonar.software Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA --- Sonar Software Inc The future of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software -- Simon Westlake Email: simon@sonar.software Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA --- Sonar Software Inc The future of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
Depends on how well that 10GB PMP performs. ;) Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 1:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq /hal wonders if this is good PR for IgniteNet... :-D On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 2:49 PM wrote: 'merica! F yeah! -Original Message- From: Chris Wright Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 1:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq Each side of the aisle has their own crazies; for every anti-vaxxer there's a birther. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 12:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq That's not left. That is wacko left. There is also wacko right. You forgot a few things, like gluten mania, chakra, chi, feng shui, and oh well. We gotta change the channel... bp On 10/20/2017 11:53 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > Not wanting to break lent, but the left is hell bent against science > in many areas. > GMOs, Vaccines, Beer Yeast, EMI == Cancer etc. > The only generalization you can make that will hold is that people > generally only support/quote science that backs their own ideas/ideals. > Lent is back on.
Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
Each side of the aisle has their own crazies; for every anti-vaxxer there's a birther. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 12:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq That's not left. That is wacko left. There is also wacko right. You forgot a few things, like gluten mania, chakra, chi, feng shui, and oh well. We gotta change the channel... bp On 10/20/2017 11:53 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > Not wanting to break lent, but the left is hell bent against science > in many areas. > GMOs, Vaccines, Beer Yeast, EMI == Cancer etc. > The only generalization you can make that will hold is that people > generally only support/quote science that backs their own ideas/ideals. > Lent is back on.
Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
> No I'm not one of those weird liberals. What, like a scientist <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveys_of_scientists%27_views_on_climate_change> ? Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 10:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq Keep in mind weather is changing. No I'm not one of those weird liberals. But here in Pennsylvania we've noticed a definite difference in the amount and frequency of rain. On Oct 20, 2017, at 13:42, Mike Hammett wrote: I'd use the NOAA page I linked to in my FB posts shared earlier in this thread. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 12:40:17 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq The google... From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 11:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq Where are you looking up your rainfall specs? - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 12:33:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq I think both Julian Kemp and Daniel White both did rain presentations at AnimalFarm in years past. Fascinating with the shape and size of the raindrops, and the fact that some places have continual drizzle and some have torrential sky floods but both will show the same amount of rainfall. Certainly not as simple as looking up rainfall specs for a place. From: Harold Bledsoe Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 11:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq SEA is amazingly friendly. They get rain but not very intense. What makes it particularly challenging is that it is rain specifically across the path of the link. So a 1km link that follows a typical squall line path will be different than a 1km link that is perpendicular to the typical squall line (partial path with rain vs. full path with rain). It's cool stuff like this that makes it so much fun! :-) On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:01 AM wrote: Lesseee 365.25*24*60 = 525960 minutes. .9 uptime = = .1 downtime Move the decimal 5 places = 5.296 minutes per year 25.9 seconds per month. So should drop for a second a day or perhaps for half a minute a month or 7 seconds a week etc etc. Be interesting to see what folks in Seattle actually see. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 5:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq = that is good for five nines reliability at 500 to 650 meters in a Seattle-like rain zone. Somewhat less distance in places that have higher mm/hour rain rates. These are serious products that take direct 48VDC power, singlemode fiber connections, and have dedicated management interfaces. = IgniteNet does all of that too. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/chann
Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
Between 50-80GHz, oxygen attenuates the EM spectrum significantly more than water. Not to say that it doesn’t contribute at all to fade, but at 300 meters you’d probably only ever go down if Poseiden himself took offense to your client. <http://windowsil.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/atm_absorption.gif> http://windowsil.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/atm_absorption.gif Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 1:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq This link would be just under 300 meters. Will I ever go down for rain? -- Original Message -- From: "Mike Hammett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 10/19/2017 4:17:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq Yes, it's still an issue. To say otherwise is dumb. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 3:16:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq Is rain fade an issue? I just read an article claiming that the atmospheric attenuation at 60ghz is so great that at any range where 60ghz will operate the rain fade is insignificant. -- Original Message -- From: "Carl Peterson" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 10/19/2017 2:58:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq Yes, and the LR brackets. They should just drop the regular bracket and make everyone order the decent ones. On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: At 1300m will I really need a scope to align it? -- Original Message -- From: "Chris Wright" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 10/19/2017 2:41:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq I have a 1300 meter link on PTP60-35 radios doing -59/-61. Very happy with them. The mounts they come with are trash. Get the “long range” brackets and alignment scope. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 11:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq I have a microwave shot about 3 blocks long, so 60ghz seems like an option. Have any of you tried IgniteNet? Has it been reliable for you? I don't actually need a gigabit in this case, I just need it to be up. -- Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
I guess that makes me one of today’s lucky 10,000. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 12:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq It's already a done deal. Radio comes without mounts and they have a variety of mounts separately available. This has been stated what I feel like is dozens of times, but maybe that's in aggregate across all of the platforms I'm on. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Chris Wright" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 1:59:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq Agreed. Drop the radio price by however many pennies they’re paying for the mounts + added shipping weight and prevent a lot of noobs from needless suffering. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 11:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq Yes, and the LR brackets. They should just drop the regular bracket and make everyone order the decent ones. On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: At 1300m will I really need a scope to align it? -- Original Message -- From: "Chris Wright" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 10/19/2017 2:41:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq I have a 1300 meter link on PTP60-35 radios doing -59/-61. Very happy with them. The mounts they come with are trash. Get the “long range” brackets and alignment scope. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 11:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq I have a microwave shot about 3 blocks long, so 60ghz seems like an option. Have any of you tried IgniteNet? Has it been reliable for you? I don't actually need a gigabit in this case, I just need it to be up. -- Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
Agreed. Drop the radio price by however many pennies they’re paying for the mounts + added shipping weight and prevent a lot of noobs from needless suffering. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 11:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq Yes, and the LR brackets. They should just drop the regular bracket and make everyone order the decent ones. On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: At 1300m will I really need a scope to align it? -- Original Message -- From: "Chris Wright" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 10/19/2017 2:41:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq I have a 1300 meter link on PTP60-35 radios doing -59/-61. Very happy with them. The mounts they come with are trash. Get the “long range” brackets and alignment scope. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 11:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq I have a microwave shot about 3 blocks long, so 60ghz seems like an option. Have any of you tried IgniteNet? Has it been reliable for you? I don't actually need a gigabit in this case, I just need it to be up. -- Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
Absolutely yes. 60GHz for the first time will make whoever is doing the alignment rethink their profession. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 11:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq Yes On Oct 19, 2017, at 14:46, Adam Moffett wrote: At 1300m will I really need a scope to align it? -- Original Message -- From: "Chris Wright" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 10/19/2017 2:41:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq I have a 1300 meter link on PTP60-35 radios doing -59/-61. Very happy with them. The mounts they come with are trash. Get the “long range” brackets and alignment scope. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 11:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq I have a microwave shot about 3 blocks long, so 60ghz seems like an option. Have any of you tried IgniteNet? Has it been reliable for you? I don't actually need a gigabit in this case, I just need it to be up.
Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
I have a 1300 meter link on PTP60-35 radios doing -59/-61. Very happy with them. The mounts they come with are trash. Get the “long range” brackets and alignment scope. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 11:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq I have a microwave shot about 3 blocks long, so 60ghz seems like an option. Have any of you tried IgniteNet? Has it been reliable for you? I don't actually need a gigabit in this case, I just need it to be up.
Re: [AFMUG] OT. Is it time to buy UBNT stock?
I agree. I was nodding my head when he went off on his little tirade about how UBNT users are supposedly fanatical about their gear. Well… yeah I can think of more than a dozen people here who have been chugging the Kool Aid for years now. I’ll run out of fingers if I try to count how many networks I’ve helped set up just because I was excited to get friends and family off their crappy Walmart routers. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. Is it time to buy UBNT stock? I was not convinced by the argument that they're "too successful". Some Ubiquiti users actually are evangelists, in spite of Left thinking that's not possible. They do have disruptive products in spite of what Mr Left thinks. Left picked on outsourcing engineering to Latvia like that was obviously stupidwhen Latvia does in fact make electronics. So he's clearly not infallible. If the only reason for the empty office photos is that they moved, then that's a huge oversight on Left's part. Seemed like a smoking gun, but I assumed the person writing the report is smart enough to find Ubiquiti's current address. Maybe I assumed wrong. The forum being full of bots and lurkers seemed bad at first pass, but in hindsight I guess all forums are full of bots and lurkers. He also claimed that the amount U.S. distributors buy from UBNT is incongruent with their claimed sales. It could still be right if it's like 90% overseas. Is it? How do we know? Just askin. -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 9/19/2017 7:21:08 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. Is it time to buy UBNT stock? I see few points I'm worried about. They moved into a different office in SJ, I know that much. That happened maybe a year ago? Taiwan thing is worrying. I believe the Chinese mob tried to cause problems for them awhile back. Few years ago. On Sep 19, 2017 6:07 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: I wouldn't be concerned about most of those. Which points are worth addressing? - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 6:01:14 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. Is it time to buy UBNT stock? The content. It takes a whole lotta splainin to make all the anomalies make sense. -- Original Message -- From: "Mike Hammett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 9/19/2017 6:55:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. Is it time to buy UBNT stock? The report itself or what the report revealed? - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 5:53:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. Is it time to buy UBNT stock? My first reaction is they've sold a gazillion units of M series, AC series, Unifi, etc so why would they have to cheat? Now that I've read the actual Citron report, I found it ..unsettling. http://www.citronresearch.com/citron-exposes-ubiquiti-networks/ -- Original Message -- From: "Jeremy" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 9/19/2017 12:26:46 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. Is it time to buy UBNT stock? Well, three law firms representing UBNT investors have launched investigations today. I think I will wait and see what they find. "NEW YORK, Sept. 19, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- Attorney Advertising -- Bronstein, Gew
Re: [AFMUG] 60GHz
Because IgniteNet is cheaper than anyone else out there. The only reason we all know their name is because their 60GHz radios deliver gigabit speeds for at least tenth of the cost of anyone else in the game. Why do you mention fiber? Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 3:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 60GHz I’m not sure why that is funny. The average CPE cost is much less than the Ignitenet radios. I’m not running fiber, which is also cost prohibitive without deep pockets. A good ROI for a WISP is 6-12 months. For fiber it’s 5-6 years. The reason being you’ll get many more service calls with wireless, as well as less consistent speeds. Fiber is solid and you don’t have to replace as many electronics as often. So I’m not sure why you laugh when I say Ignitenet is cost prohibitive. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Sep 11, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > > Ignitenet is cost prohibitive? LOL > > Chris Wright > Network Administrator > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 3:24 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] 60GHz > > Anyone know anything about the Mikrotik 60GHz stuff yet? I’m looking for some > good gear and I use some Ignitenet. Ignitenet is great but so cost > prohibitive. I’m hoping Mikrotik will have theirs released very soon as I > need a couple hundred radios. > > Thank you, > Brett A Mansfield >
Re: [AFMUG] 60GHz
Ignitenet is cost prohibitive? LOL Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 3:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 60GHz Anyone know anything about the Mikrotik 60GHz stuff yet? I’m looking for some good gear and I use some Ignitenet. Ignitenet is great but so cost prohibitive. I’m hoping Mikrotik will have theirs released very soon as I need a couple hundred radios. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield
Re: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots
Bad power can definitely cause weird symptoms. Do you have anything monitoring current/voltage draw? Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 5:11 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots And line conditioning strategy Jaime Solorza On Aug 23, 2017 6:10 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: Nope...he didn't wear an amulet by stomach during eclipse I would look into faulty wiring and recommend isolation of devices to see if problem follows device ... Jaime Solorza On Aug 23, 2017 6:04 PM, wrote: So my death ray works after all... -Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 6:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots I’ve been having the strangest day today with my network. It all started with a sudden reboot of my core router. Made no sense to me at all until Sterling mentioned the brownouts (my core router sits right next to many of his switches in the same cabinet). Next, another core router reboots about an hour later. No power loss, no indication of issues, just a random reboot caused by a random kernel panic. Then three hours later, two of my netonix switches rebooted with no warning. I’d say my network is being hacked, but there no manual commands triggered. It is just out of the blue. Maybe the solar eclipse did it? Or maybe I made some celestial being angry? Whatever it is, I just want it to stop! I can see having reboots several times one one device, but one time on almost every device in such a small timeframe is paranormal. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield
Re: [AFMUG] help understanding and troubleshooting bgp from the target perspective
Is traffic leaving and arriving through the same provider? Sounds similar to a Reverse Path Forwarding issue I had a long time ago. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 9:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] help understanding and troubleshooting bgp from the target perspective we have been dealing with amazon issues on one of our upstreams they had some BGP issues where they werent sending our announcements to the world, watching the peering all of a sudden they were peered with level3 directly, our announcements were working but we started having skullduggery with amazon and images, im guessing either AWS hosted or in a similar locale moving them to our other provider (ended up terminating our peering session) and all was resolved I have figured out how to poke around in looking glasses and that to get general paths, but with the whole distributed hosting and geolocation dns or whatever, how do i get to a point where i can discover what actual server theyre getting to and then be able to find out what our ASN looks like from their perspective? I think this was an asynchronous path in which one of the directions was horrible basic testing, just to the IP resolving to amazon.com each provider path showed a different IP in resolution using the same DNS servers, which is odd, i guess, we just run bind recursive with no geo magician .voodoo. the problem provider had huge latency to both IPs the other was good, from our ASN Now hitting the same IP from our edge router, presenting as our provider IP space the path was different but clean, I asssume thats their internal routing or something. long story short, without knowing an engineer at amazon, (or any other target) is there a way to see the path back to our ASN?
Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering
Yeah natively WDS cannot support WPA. OpenWRT and Apple baked their own versions of WDS to support it. I doubt they’d work cross-vendors though. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 11:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering Wds peering, from what I remember, only works with WEP. Yes, same ssid, same channel. On Aug 18, 2017 1:02 PM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: We have a campground that we purchased that was setup for WiFi using a UBNT Bullet as the primary AP with 2 Picos connected using WDS peering. We had to replace dead some equipment there and I had the tech give both Picos the same SSID as the primary access point which is how I understood it was supposed to work. Now the campground manager is saying that some of her customers can't connect to the internet and they used to be able to connect to APs with different SSIDs and the Picos are dropping off line. Am I correct that all the radios need the same SSID? Yes, we are going to eventually modernize this site.
Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval
If I had to guess, it’s because your situation is simply a confirmation that people are getting their hands on licensed radios before the actual licenses. And we all knew Mimosa/UBNT would be the catalyst. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval Mimosa b11, why On Aug 8, 2017 10:18 PM, "Trey Scarborough" wrote: Please tell me this is not a AF11 or mimosa On 8/8/2017 1:33 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Ya sorry didn't see your later email. Thanks for the details! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Hardy, Tim wrote: 30 days is specified in 101.103, but as mentioned – most PCNs today are expedited to 10-business days. If it’s a dire emergency – life and limb, public safety or restoration of service, the FCC allows STAs (Special Temporary Authority). These can be granted immediately by email but must be followed up with formal applications and fees. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 1:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval Can't you do a rush file or something like that? 7 or 14 days? Is 30 days really not enough for you? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Hardy, Tim wrote: There is no authority to operate until the applications have been filed – period. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval Has the PCN passed with no objections? What does your coordinator say? - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Steve Jones" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:46:37 AM Subject: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval Im pretty sure the answer is an absolute no, and I know I CAN do it without likely being caught. If we have the gear on hand and are just waiting on the FCC, I know we can physically install the radios, its just storage at height at that point, but can we turn it on long enough to do fine alignment?
Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link
Good grief. And I thought 60ghz was bad… Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 8:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link .18 degree beamwidth. Can you imagine aiming .18 degrees, tighter actually as that is the HPBW. Most of us like to be down no more than a half dB from peak when aiming. That is .08 degrees on this dish. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link All of them! :) On Aug 2, 2017 2:17 PM, "Chris Wright" wrote: 8’ dishes are stupid-big for a 10 mile link on 18GHz. What kind of speeds are you trying to push? Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 8:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link My 10 mile Dragonwave links had 3 footers I think. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 9:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link Use a pair of B5cs with RD-34 dishes with RF Armor shield kits, I’d be shocked if you can’t get 100Mbps without disrupting anything else. I just checked a 10 mile 18GHz link in Arizona and they wanted me to use 8’ dishes. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 8:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link Yeah, I have used 18 GHz out to 10 miles before in Utah. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 6:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link Seems like a waste. 11 GHz is ripe for four miles. In a dry climate, 18 GHz would work as well. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Jay Weekley" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 7:53:09 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link What about 6 GHz? Adair Winter wrote: > Forget 24, 60, 80Ghz if that's what you're thinking > If you can't do 5 (and you probably can if you think you can pull on > DFS or UNII-1) than 11 and 11ghz are about your only options. > > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Eric Rogers <mailto:ecrog...@precisionds.com%20%0b> > <mailto:ecrog...@precisionds.com>> wrote: > > I need a link that is capable of 4.25 miles, and something over > 100M. I fear that 5GHz will be out because of all the used > spectrum, but wanted to ask what are my options? > > Eric Rogers > > PDSConnect_logo-Connecting You to the World - Signature Logo > > www.pdsconnect.me <http://www.pdsconnect.me> > > (317) 831-3000 x200 > > > > > -- > > Adair Winter > VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner > Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 > C: 806.231.7180 > http://www.amarillowireless.net <http://www.amarillowireless.net/> > <http://www.amarillowireless.net> > > > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > &utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Virus-free. www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > &utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
Re: [AFMUG] Gfi kicking on portable generator
If floating your ground alleviates the symptoms, a small voice inside my head is telling me you’ve got a ground loop somewhere. That can cause weird stuff in sensitive electronics and was the bane of my past life in the AV world. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 4:57 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gfi kicking on portable generator Did it read zero? If not , have that checked...we spent all morning with engineers, electricians and us chasing a weird diesel generator to UPS issue...Fluke meters galore... Jaime Solorza On Aug 2, 2017 5:51 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: At a grain elevator right now, brownout type issue, 60v some places none at others. Not our chair, not our problem, except our portable generator gfi trips every time the cutover switch engages. We ended up just bypassing the cutover and only wiring phase and neutral to the generator outlet, leaving ground disconnected. I suppose we could have left everything intact and disconnected ground from the panel, i dont know But what we have now is phase and neutral on generator feeding the outlet up top, the ground is still connected to the service ground up top. We dont have access to a panel its connected at I did measure between the ground at the panel and a known good earth ground. No voltage, i assume that means no hot ground. The concern here is if im missing something and the gfi is kicking because of something i dont have capacity to verify, is running this generator this way a risk of electrocuting somebody who touches the frame? Its ground is not connected in the circuit, same as if id just connected a 2 prong adapter
Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link
8’ dishes are stupid-big for a 10 mile link on 18GHz. What kind of speeds are you trying to push? Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 8:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link My 10 mile Dragonwave links had 3 footers I think. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 9:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link Use a pair of B5cs with RD-34 dishes with RF Armor shield kits, I’d be shocked if you can’t get 100Mbps without disrupting anything else. I just checked a 10 mile 18GHz link in Arizona and they wanted me to use 8’ dishes. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 8:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link Yeah, I have used 18 GHz out to 10 miles before in Utah. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 6:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link Seems like a waste. 11 GHz is ripe for four miles. In a dry climate, 18 GHz would work as well. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Jay Weekley" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 7:53:09 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link What about 6 GHz? Adair Winter wrote: > Forget 24, 60, 80Ghz if that's what you're thinking > If you can't do 5 (and you probably can if you think you can pull on > DFS or UNII-1) than 11 and 11ghz are about your only options. > > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Eric Rogers <mailto:ecrog...@precisionds.com%20%0b> > <mailto:ecrog...@precisionds.com>> wrote: > > I need a link that is capable of 4.25 miles, and something over > 100M. I fear that 5GHz will be out because of all the used > spectrum, but wanted to ask what are my options? > > Eric Rogers > > PDSConnect_logo-Connecting You to the World - Signature Logo > > www.pdsconnect.me <http://www.pdsconnect.me> > > (317) 831-3000 x200 > > > > > -- > > Adair Winter > VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner > Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 > C: 806.231.7180 > http://www.amarillowireless.net <http://www.amarillowireless.net/> > <http://www.amarillowireless.net> > > > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > &utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Virus-free. www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > &utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
Re: [AFMUG] moving 10gbps 12 miles
Perhaps it would cost effective to do three short 500M 60-80GHz hops over the freeways and railroad tracks with fiber underground through the open space between them? At that point it might just be better to go through the paperwork headache of boring all the way through. I know a guy in Los Angeles who likes digging tunnels. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 12:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] moving 10gbps 12 miles Not in one hop with one set of radios, no. There are ways to achieve 6 Gbps full duplex using multiple parallel 18 GHz (80 MHz) dual polarity links, if you could coordinate enough high/low frequency pairs on the path. It would be a number of dishes and radios. Or some combination of 11 GHz/80 MHz channel/dual polarity links and several 18 GHz/80MHz channel/dual polarity links. I would not recommend trying to aggregate such together at L2 due to slightly different performance of different radios and polarities on the same path. Aggregated together at L3 by having multiple OSPF equal cost links between two routers, one on each end, so that the traffic flows between 1GbE router interfaces were distributed equally. There are 10 Gbps 71-86 GHz band radios now. Distances are good for like, 2 miles at high reliability, not much more. On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Steve Jones wrote: Im guessing there is no realistic (cost competitive to fiber) option aside from fiber to move this kind of bandwidth, or is there? Fiber would require traversing 2 state highways and a railroad track, so there is that.
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications
Or the signal is too hot? Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 2:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications My 3GHz SM at home is at about -60.5dBm and it's seeing 36/36 SNR and 8X downlink. Not perfect 256QAM, maybe only 15%, but most of the time it's decent. I am shooting through a 50 year old large maple tree too. I see 5GHz SMs that will run 8X with anything >35/35 SNR, and they're not near -56dBm either. Typically -58 to -64. Then I see others with like -55dBm, 40/42 SNR, <2dB SSR, yet they'll never run 8X downlink. I don't know what the hell it is with those. They're either lying or seeing some variable multipath that isn't reflected in the SNR reading fast enough. On 7/28/2017 11:48 AM, Joe Falaschi wrote: > Sure it would. We have some links reporting a SNR above 32db, enough to get > 8x but are weaker than -56 signals. So both matter. > > Joe > > > >> On Jul 28, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Chris Wright wrote: >> >> Wouldn't SNR play a bigger role than general signal level? What good is >> -67.8dBm if the noise floor is -75dBm? >> >> Chris Wright >> Network Administrator >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe Falaschi >> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 9:28 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications >> >> We’re looking at some questions of why certain links are at certain >> modulations (uplink is better than downlink). It’s explained by the spec >> sheet of the current equipment and RX sensitivity. Basically the 450M AP >> can do more with less signal than the CPE can. Specs below. In any case we >> were then wondering what the new 450b RX sensitivity would be. There is a >> spec sheet on the Cambium website but this isn’t listed. Anyone have this >> information? >> >> 450M AP RX sensitivity >> 1x = - 93.5 dBm >> 2x = -88.6 dBm >> 4x = -81.5 dBm >> 6x = -75.9.0 dBm >> 8x = -67.8 dBm >> >> 450SM RX sensitivity >> 1x = -84 dBm >> 2x = -80.5 dBm >> 4x = -74 dBm >> 6x = -66.9 dBm >> 8x = -56 dBm >> >> 450i SM RX sensitivity >> 1x = -85.9 dBm >> 2x = -81.5 dBm >> 4x = -75.8 dBm >> 6x = -69.3 dBm >> 8x = -61.6 dBm >> >> Joe Falaschi >> e-vergent >>
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications
Wouldn't SNR play a bigger role than general signal level? What good is -67.8dBm if the noise floor is -75dBm? Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe Falaschi Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 9:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications We’re looking at some questions of why certain links are at certain modulations (uplink is better than downlink). It’s explained by the spec sheet of the current equipment and RX sensitivity. Basically the 450M AP can do more with less signal than the CPE can. Specs below. In any case we were then wondering what the new 450b RX sensitivity would be. There is a spec sheet on the Cambium website but this isn’t listed. Anyone have this information? 450M AP RX sensitivity 1x = - 93.5 dBm 2x = -88.6 dBm 4x = -81.5 dBm 6x = -75.9.0 dBm 8x = -67.8 dBm 450SM RX sensitivity 1x = -84 dBm 2x = -80.5 dBm 4x = -74 dBm 6x = -66.9 dBm 8x = -56 dBm 450i SM RX sensitivity 1x = -85.9 dBm 2x = -81.5 dBm 4x = -75.8 dBm 6x = -69.3 dBm 8x = -61.6 dBm Joe Falaschi e-vergent
Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question
Not even that. Most people are terrified of their own computers. Why would they want to mess with a mysterious box they barely know exists? Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 1:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question > I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. Is that because they don't want a personal SSID/passcode, guest network, etc.? Or is it because they are terrified of a typical enterprise management config interface? On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:20 PM Christopher Gray wrote: To reply to the original question: We use a few options: *Cambium R200 provisioned by cnMaestro (leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area) *UniFi USG / UAP provisioned by off-site UniFi Controller (purchased outright then managed for $5 + $5 per device) *Mimosa G2 no remote provisioning, requires external network access (leased for $9-$12 per device depending on area) I'm surprised at how few people want access to change anything. I do have one company on UniFi that I have provided with a controller login. With the R200, I allow customer control from the Basic login, but I've only had one person ask about it. It is easy enough to re-provision the R200 that I'm not that concerned about people making their own changes on the limited accounts. _ On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: We do it using Cloud based mngmt platforms: We offer Cambium Pilot 201 Router and Xclaim X2’s for $9.95 Meraki MR 33 and up starting from $19.95 up to $39.95 We charge a setup and install fee that goes from $49.95 to $99.95 depending on the contract term. We include: Cable drop, config, FW updates, lifetime management and replacement. Meraki is the best Cloud mngmt. of the 3 There is really a need for a Amplifi/Eero type of product for MSP's From: Af on behalf of Harold Bledsoe Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question Hi folks, For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers, how do you provision the devices? And day 2, do you let the subscriber make changes? Thanks! -Hal Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png
[AFMUG] Managed Home Security
Dovetailing with the managed WiFi thread, and since the market is receptive to value-added services like VOIP and WiFi. what's anyone doing for managed home security systems, cameras, etc.? I've looked at Novi and wasn't impressed with their offerings. I love the UBNT cameras, but there's no turnkey way to resell that I can see. Chris Wright Network Administrator
Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation.
Yeah no thanks. I did my time going into strangers houses troubleshooting networking problems and what not. Never again. Some houses you need a hazmat suit just to get within a quarter mile because the stench of rancid cat urine is too potent. My crew has had guns pulled on them, death threats, crazies, etc. I’ll stick to my cubicle, thankyouverymuch! Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 3:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. I had a guy offer me shots, try to smoke a bowl with me, and then pull a gun and threaten to kill my family if I told anyone that he was a drug dealer. I finished up quick and left. Dude racked up a giant bill, got shut off for non-payment. Then he paid with a credit card to get it turned back on, and disputed the chargesclaimed he didn't know who we were. I fought it and he lost. It really made me wish that I had turned the sorry SOB in. If I had been carrying that night, I would have shot himwith his seven year old daughter in the house. On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Robert Haas wrote: I carry afterhours when I am responding by myself – some areas I will not respond to after hours alone or otherwise. I do not carry during normal business hours. For our techs though, they are told to leave the area immediately if there is a significant threat, then to call the office or police. -- We’ve had 2 incidents of people pulling weapons on our techs recently. One was a scheduled site survey. CSR’s called and spoke with the lady and gave her a time frame to expect the tech. Tech showed up, knocked on the door, rang the doorbell etc. and there was no response. He began doing the survey and was standing on the extension ladder when the lady came out and started screaming at him and pointing a revolver at him. The tech ran up the ladder and over the peak of the house. She came around the other side of the house and screamed at him to get off the roof – he got down and loaded his ladder up and left. She called complaining that we showed up un-announced and our vehicles aren’t marked – both of which are false – we also wear company shirts with our logo. The best part was her husband called up later wanting to know if it passed or not and then got pissed when we told him that we refused to service his location.. -- The other we had a tech out on a service call. The house’s eves were rotten and the J-arm and radio had fallen off the eve. Tech sent me pics of the house which was pretty much falling in on itself. I told the tech to speak to the homeowner about putting a 4x4 post down at the corner of the house so we could re-attach the radio but that we were not going to be able to mount the radio back on the house due to its condition. Homeowner blows up goes inside and comes back out with a shotgun and tells the tech to take the equipment otherwise he was going to blow his head off. -- I’ve personally have had people walk up on me while working at a site in the early morning hours like at 1-2am. Nothing came of them – they were just intoxicated out wandering I guess. I also, completely on accident, hit a guy with a half full 44 ounce soda who was digging in one of our dumpsters at 3am. I was working late and was finished and cleaning up, the dumpster is probably 15’ or so from the door of the shelter. I walked out and took a couple of steps towards my van and threw my soda into the dumpster. Unbeknown to me he was digging through the dumpster and I nailed him right in the head and the cup burst on him. He was slightly peeved and started towards me. All I could think to grab was my mag light out of the passenger seat of my van. I told him if he got any closer that we were going to find out how well the flashlight held up being used like a bat. -- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SOP Outside Crew Protection / Confrontation Mitigation. alot is dependent on area. Urban, most definitely allow for self defense weapons withing local applicable law. If you have a 2A guy who gets harmed and you have a policy disallowing self defense, then thats a liability, then again so is a yahoo with a gun in your truck. We go into too many banks and schools, and other prohibited location, i would not carry at work I do however always have a 36 inch 1 7/8 water pipe for discussions and conflict resolution Training itself is another liability, say you offer self defense training to your guys, and one of them beats some mope to a pulp, you trained him to do that, even though its well outside the scope of a self defense class. Then again, dont train him and have a mope beat him to a pulp, theres liability in that too. I have a
Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks
Wh… *reads the next line* Oh…. OH. Tamales. I thought… nevermind. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 2:55 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks Send me your address Steve off list ...wife is making some this weekend... Jaime Solorza On Jul 20, 2017 11:29 AM, "Steve Jones" wrote: Lmao, the list needs more autistic screeching Anyway, how about them tamales, jaime? On Jul 20, 2017 11:11 AM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: R!!! On Jul 20, 2017 11:10 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: Nor people without threaded e-mail clients. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:08:54 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks Certainly not safe for bottom posting apple users From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks After last fall, I think we all learned a lesson or two about what to not discuss. I am pretty sure snowflakes would not consider this space safe... From: Jeremy Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks Wow, you guys are sensitive! It is a good thing that we have converted AFMUG to a safe space. On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Paul McCall wrote: YES, PLEASE keep this the pleasant WISP business related site that we have re-established. We all have opinions, but… Paul 😊 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks Disparity in how cops treat perps based on skin color is very political, like global warming, evolution and the flat earth. All of which should be discussed on other forums as they have nothing to do with operating a WISP. We lost Ken Hohof over this kind of thing last fall. From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks one last question... >> for this political BS Please do tell me how the Hell, what I posted and said is "political" ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net _ From: "Dustin Jurman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:03:56 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks That’s just wrong Faisal to perpetuate this on this list. There were a lot of great things you could have stated here: Was AT&T on the guys property without permission? Safety of the guy in the bucket while someone is shooting the tires out. Safety of the guy in the bucket while engine/controls get shot out How the ground guys handled the situation If you allow your crews to pack heat were they in the right to defend themselves You get where I’m going but this list has no place for this political BS. The sad part is you sent this to the list. Dustin From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Elderly Florida man vs. AT&T bucket trucks Welcome to Miami <http://wsvn.com/news/local/elderly-hialeah-man-shoots-out-tires-of-att-truck-on-property/> http://wsvn.com/news/local/elderly-hialeah-man-shoots-out-tires-of-att-truck-on-property/ - Here is the sad reality Since this was an elderly white male, he was arrested.. If this was a Brown or Black (or a younger) Person most likely would have been shot on sight by the Cops. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Em
Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround
This right here. There is still a much bigger underlying problem, and putting OSPF on the bridge is only a palliative fix. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround OSPF didn't lose the neighbor, but you still want to fix the ethernet issue. One thing that could be an issue is if you want OSPF to fail over to a secondary path. If the interface goes down, then the router knows instantly that something is wrong and convergence can start right away. If the path is down while the interface stays up, then the router has to wait for hello packets to time out before it's aware of the issue. The default dead timer is 40 seconds, so the "it's down but I don't know yet" condition has to last at least that long before the router takes action. -- Original Message -- From: "Steve Jones" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 7/19/2017 3:03:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround if this doesn't harm anything, I'm thinking I may make this the standard, its flapped 24 times since I put it in, not a single ospf drop On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Chris Wright wrote: I’ve had to run OSPF on a bridge in a pinch, and so long as you don’t make any live changes to the bridge (adding/removing interfaces), the Mikrotik won’t mind. Just remember to set your static OSPF interfaces (if you have any) accordingly. Same goes for MPLS – LDP Interfaces if you’re using it. If you’re thinking it’ll be like this for longer than a week, leave yourself plenty of documentation to backtrack properly. Nothing like coming back to it three months later and trying to remember what you did! Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 9:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround So ive been dealing with the SAFs and the mikrotiks being uppity with one another. SAF has a gigabit port, but it only offers the option to lock it to 100, not gigabit. so I have the mikrotiks set, just not the otherside, the port still flaps on both radios what was happening is everytime it flaps, the interface dropped in ospf and went neighbor down, rerouting traffic then coming back up what I did was made a bridge, added that port to it, and put the ospf ip on the bridge itself, this allows the port to flap without the ospf interface going down until we work throught the issue with SAF I'm wondering if this is causing some other harm having it on the bridge, rather than the physical port
Re: [AFMUG] Network MTU?
It all depends on the network, what you're using now, and what you may use in the future. There is no cookie-cutter MTU. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Network MTU? What's everyone setting there networks at? The internet is at 1500 byte, so if using vlans and such we want to be at say 1528 or more on all our equipment. Does this sound correct? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.
Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround
I’ve had to run OSPF on a bridge in a pinch, and so long as you don’t make any live changes to the bridge (adding/removing interfaces), the Mikrotik won’t mind. Just remember to set your static OSPF interfaces (if you have any) accordingly. Same goes for MPLS – LDP Interfaces if you’re using it. If you’re thinking it’ll be like this for longer than a week, leave yourself plenty of documentation to backtrack properly. Nothing like coming back to it three months later and trying to remember what you did! Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 9:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround So ive been dealing with the SAFs and the mikrotiks being uppity with one another. SAF has a gigabit port, but it only offers the option to lock it to 100, not gigabit. so I have the mikrotiks set, just not the otherside, the port still flaps on both radios what was happening is everytime it flaps, the interface dropped in ospf and went neighbor down, rerouting traffic then coming back up what I did was made a bridge, added that port to it, and put the ospf ip on the bridge itself, this allows the port to flap without the ospf interface going down until we work throught the issue with SAF I'm wondering if this is causing some other harm having it on the bridge, rather than the physical port
Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat
Just be sure to carry a sack of salt with you for every time Steve posts. ;) Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 7:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat Or some food suggestions that could leave you scarred for life... On 7/19/17 7:18 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: We are a diverse group on platforms...some bleed Cambium or Ubiquiti when you cut them...that's fine... every man has to believe in something.. I believe I will have another Tecate... Stick around... some of knowledge and experience shared here is priceless...and you might pick up tasty food recipes... Jaime Solorza On Jul 19, 2017 8:04 AM, wrote: That’s cold man... From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat Que ? No Habal Inglez No hablan Moto tampoco ! Motorola quien ? Una empresa prehistorica ! (I thought we had cleared up all the Motorola Dinosaurs ! ) LOL ! Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net _ From: "Steve Jones" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:19:55 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat we are a Motorola user group roun here tho, you best get with the program On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Hi Donnie, Which model of the Radwin Radios are you using ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net _ From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 7:17:24 PM Subject: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat Welcome Donnie the Radwin user to the list. Please be kind From: Donnie McCorkle Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:11 PM To: ch...@wbmfg.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Inquiry: Product Compatibility Gotcha, I'm getting emails from the list now. Thanks again, didn't expect such a quick reply. Donnie
Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 ~50mbps cap
ePMP might make sense to build in a new area, but when you have 100+ clients in a single 90 degree sector, replacing your triple-stacked PMP450 APs with a single 450M, saving 40MHz of spectrum, offering faster speeds, AND not having to swap 100+ radios feels mighty nice. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 ~50mbps cap I've had ePMP's do some weird things here and there, like refusing to reboot or accept config changes. Nothing a power cycle didn't fix. I've had to power cycle a PMP100 or 450 to fix a problem approximately zero times. I know a neighbor who had a tower hit by lightning an ePMP and a Ubiquiti Rocket died while the PMP100 and 430 stuff kept on chugging (he didn't have 450 there yet). 450 has a few management conveniences like remote spectrum analyzer, RF private IP, and SM proxy access via AP. So overall my experiences say the 450 is better than the ePMP, but I still use a lot of ePMP for all the reasons others have stated. ePMP is good bang for the buck. -Adam -- Original Message -- From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent: 7/18/2017 10:23:17 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 ~50mbps cap It seems to me (as someone who hasn't actually used PMP450 to speak of, other than 900mhz), that PMP450 has some advantages for high density deployments... particularly if you're talking 450m, or even the ability to easily upgrade to 450m. But in a network like ours, where the average SMs per AP is somewhere around 15, I just can't see any way that it could possibly be worth going with 450 over ePMP. On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Bill Prince wrote: The PMP450M can make ~~ 12° sectors. On a busy tower, and surrounded by noisy neighbors, we're often seeing 30 dBm SNR. Nothing else comes close. bp On 7/17/2017 10:10 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Serious question, not my usual sarcasm, how are you 450 folks justifying the substantial proce difference between 450 and epmp, seriously, if you dont freeze in the winter, i couldnt justify it. Granted we dont sellbover 12\2 and we dont have more than 40 per ap, i just dont see the value, they did too good a job on epmp On Jul 3, 2017 12:10 PM, "Craig Schmaderer" wrote: I have never seen more than around 55mbps on 450sm in bridge mode with any firmware. Maybe I missed a 14.x that it did, but I haven't seen more than 55mbps on any 15.x firmware. I am working on a bug with then on 15.1 where it looks like the qos speed limiters are not enforcing speed settings. I have never tried a 450i sm but I would assume those work fine, I have many 450i PTP that work great. _ From: Af on behalf of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 8:38:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 ~50mbps cap The original 450 hardware will max out at around 70mbps TCP. Even if you have no traffic on it that is the limitation. I don't remember which firmware it was but the 14.0 something sounds right and I have personally gotten the 70mbps to a SM on a AP with 3 clients. Now the 450i AP basically the 70mbps cap is gone and you can get whatever the link tests show (as long as your testing to an 450i SM). I have two customers with 450i SM on a 450i AP and have seen well over 125mbps TCP easy. Now that same AP talking to older 450SM's those SM's can still only get 70mbps max. So basically what you need to do is put the 450i AP up where you need to total AP capacity of more than 50-60mbps and then only use the 450i SM on the clients that need more than the 50-70mbps. I have not tested speeds since I upgraded firmware to 15.1 so if a bug was recently introduced I know nothing of it. On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 7:51 PM, George Skorup wrote: Aaron demonstrated some throughput improvements with both NAT and bridge mode back around 14.2 development. IIRC, they were able to get a little over 70Mbps downlink in bridge mode on a standard 450 SM. Real TCP throughput, not a link test. What I was seeing on some of our most heavily loaded 450 sectors is the AP seemed to max out around 55Mbps downlink and 10-11k PPS. In that case I'm thinking the issue was simply the PPS limit and not that the AP was limited to 55Mbps. As far as the SM, I don't know. Perhaps a regression with 15.x. 15.0.x did have some high-priority issues. On 7/1/2017 2:25 PM, Craig Schmaderer wrote: Ok, I have tried to get cambium to publicly admit to this ever since I started using 450 a few years ago. The current sm in no way can pass more than about 50-55 mbs of real traffic. This has never been a real issue however because I don't do those kind of speed plans. I have been waiting for their new sm design to take care
Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
Oh, so much more than glory! SpaceX R&D affects Tesla directly. What SpaceX
engineers have learned in fabricating with exotic materials helps Tesla Motors
manufacture lighter, safer frames. Tesla Energy batteries and solar panels will
most certainly be integrated into SpaceX’s broadband satellite constellation in
a couple years, and other hardware like their planned ITS for Mars. Spacex,
Tesla Motors, and Tesla Energy are three behemoths on their own. Together,
they’re going to be unstoppable.
Really excited to see how The Boring Company is going to fit in all this.
Chris Wright
Network Administrator
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 12:45 PM
To: Motorola III
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
Model 3 is launching. Long haul truck project is coming alive. And
irrespective of what the anal-ysts say, the success of SpaceX does give Tesla a
bit of reflected glory.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 1:28 PM
To: Motorola III
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
Well. Do they even have a PE ratio? A lot of speculation until they have a
consistent track record of profits.
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Jeremy wrote:
Analysts at UBS say $160/share. Hard to imagine it dropping that low though.
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Chris Wright wrote:
Don’t catch a falling knife. Wait for the daily graph to show strength.
Chris Wright
Network Administrator
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 12:13 PM
To: Motorola III
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
Skuttlebutt is that it's a risky buy right now.
May not feel the love until the September-November time frame.
-bp
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Jaime Solorza
wrote:
You can't fall uptower of power.
Jaime Solorza
On Jul 6, 2017 1:09 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote:
Buy at zero.
As Puba The Tuba once said; "When you're on the bottom, you can't fall down."
-bp
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Robert Andrews wrote:
At the bottom...
On 07/06/2017 11:00 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Dropping like a rock. When to buy...?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
Don’t catch a falling knife. Wait for the daily graph to show strength.
Chris Wright
Network Administrator
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 12:13 PM
To: Motorola III
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
Skuttlebutt is that it's a risky buy right now.
May not feel the love until the September-November time frame.
-bp
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Jaime Solorza
wrote:
You can't fall uptower of power.
Jaime Solorza
On Jul 6, 2017 1:09 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote:
Buy at zero.
As Puba The Tuba once said; "When you're on the bottom, you can't fall down."
-bp
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Robert Andrews wrote:
At the bottom...
On 07/06/2017 11:00 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Dropping like a rock. When to buy...?
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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF
I recommend sticking to the Bugfix releases (currently 6.38.7). Did anything happen recently that could possibly have provoked the disappearance like a VLAN or other L2/L3 change? Are the neighbors pingable on their backbone IPs? Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 4:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF Has anyone seen issues with Mikrotik OSPF neighbors just disappearing for no apparent reason? All of my links are ok, but I OSPF just isn't picking anything up on one of them. I might try upgrading both of the Mikrotiks involved, this feels like a bug. I have 6.38.5 on one end and 6.38 on the other, both CCR's.
Re: [AFMUG] ot TSLA
Earnings report coming up in a month with expected losses, but with the Model 3 rollout happening on time - makes things interesting. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 9:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] ot TSLA May be an opportunity coming again. Lots of folks shorted the stock. If it hits $300 I will buy again.
Re: [AFMUG] New AF5X using less power than older board revisions?
That’ll do it! Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 4:04 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New AF5X using less power than older board revisions? oh... I just occurred to me. The majority of the traffic on the one that's running 10.5 watts is being transmitted, but the on the one running 8 watts, it's almost all received. Yeah... the one running at 8 watts is currently has about 10Mbps TX and 110Mbps RX going through it, and the run running at 10 watts is doing about 90Mbps TX and 9Mbps RX... so apparently the current draw does change quite a bit under load on these. On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 5:58 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Maybe slightly different, but not much... I'm pretty sure they're both under 10 feet. On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 5:39 PM, wrote: Different cable lengths? From: Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 4:36 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New AF5X using less power than older board revisions? Well, I've always measured them from the DC side, so I could see them going drawing that much from the wall. Kind of interesting, I was just checking some of ours... I have one site, where there are two AF-5x plugged being powered from a MikroTik hEX PoE, so they both have the exact same power source, similar cable lengths, etc. and one is showing 8.1 watts and the other is 10.5 watts. The interesting thing, is that the one that's drawing more power actually has less load going through it, and judging from the MAC address, is also slightly newer. I don't know how accurate those MikroTiks are at measuring current (wouldn't surprise me if they're far from accurate), but I would expect them to at least be kinda consistent. On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: I really thought I remembered seeing an AF5X about eighteen months ago, drawing 16-17W from the wall, but I could be wrong or the watt meter that it was plugged into was grossly inaccurate. This newer model of kill-a-watt seems to be better. On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 7:29 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: Yeah, I think that's pretty consistent with what the AF-5X radios have always used. The AF5 (not X) and AF24 do use a lot more power. On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 7:08 AM, Stefan Englhardt wrote: Yes. All my AF5X use ~10W. UBNT AC use 6W and older MT 11n use 3-4W. SAF is 30-35. PTP600 is 50. On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 12:04:44 + Rory Conaway wrote: I think you are thinking of the AF24 which cranks 50W all the time. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 6:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] New AF5X using less power than older board revisions? Provisioning a new AF5X link here on their AC PoE injectors before they go out to the field. Something interesting I've noticed, and maybe I'm not remembering right, but it seems that the newer AF5X use less power than the older ones. This unit with its ubnt default PoE injector plugged into a kill-a-watt is measuring 11 watts. There's no traffic going through it, but as I recall an AF5X uses pretty much the same amount whether or not it's under load, since the AF architecture is constantly sending/receiving frames whether or not they have an ethernet data payload. - GENIAS INTERNET -- www.genias.net -- Genias Internet Stefan Englhardt Email: s...@genias.net Dr. Gesslerstr. 20 D-93051 Regensburg Tel: +49 941 942798-0 Fax: +49 941 942798-9
Re: [AFMUG] Radwin 5000 Pro vs. Cambium 450m
I’m going to infer you’d like to talk about Mimosa and Ubiquiti, both of which are still wet behind their ears when it comes to providing a mature platform for PTMP > 3 mile. They’re cheaper and underdeveloped. Case in point: SNMPv3 has been defined for fifteen years now and UBNT still hasn’t implemented it. Mimosa didn’t support SNMP at all in their A5 until the latest firmware update this month. Not unlike Apple computers in the early 2000’s, they’re poised to make a significant impact on the market in the future, but currently still pretty much a joke. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 4:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Radwin 5000 Pro vs. Cambium 450m Are these the only 2 choices? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Radwin 5000 Pro vs. Cambium 450m Let's assume you have an unlimited budget. Which platform would you choose and why?
Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 ~50mbps cap
What QoS settings in the SM? Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 1:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 ~50mbps cap Yes. Just yesterday tested a 450i AP (40mhz) with a 20mb 450 SM. Linktests showed 137 x 58 but most we could burst to was 52 x 45. Both AP and SM are on 15.1. I currently have a support ticket open for this as well as increased DFS issues. On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: We setup a customer on a very lightly loaded 5ghz PMP450 AP and SM, 20mhz channel, expecting them to burst up to 70mbit speeds for download; linktest is reliably 85-90d and there's effectively no other usage. But we can't seem to get over 50mbit speedtests. Has anyone else seen such issues?
Re: [AFMUG] Dealing with a lease violation (5ghz)
All jokes aside, you do NOT want to get into a pissing match with another WISP. No one wins. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 12:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dealing with a lease violation (5ghz) ubnt in test mode On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Let's follow the logic... Property Owner wants more $, as such has chosen to ignore the 'exclusivity' right you may have listed in the contract. You can exercise your right to complain You can exercise your right to take your marbles and go play somewhere else. Depending on who is paying more to the property owner, and who has a better relationship, you or the other guy can complaint on each other... but at the end of the day.. the property owner is going to ask you to just get along ! So the short answer is . NO, there is realistic recourse to what you have in mind.. You can always deploy Mimosa gear using 80mhz channels :) :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net _ From: "Steve Jones" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:10:52 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dealing with a lease violation (5ghz) is there realistically any recourse? On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Mitch Koep wrote: And your question is? On 6/27/2017 11:05 PM, Steve Jones wrote: I am not asking about any FCC Part X rules, I know this isn't an FCC issue under any circumstances. We have leases with all our POP landlords, in the lease we own the site spectrum, with the exception of very few locations we don't collocate, just not worth the hassle. I come rolling up on a site today, 100 feet from our POP is a new POP, not us, cause though I used to enjoy spooning some powder with baking soda, I don't smoke crack, POP#2 isn't ours, even though its on the same property, Id recall a full EPMP and backhaul deployment. I'm an honest operator, very honest, like the first time UBT sent us new stickers for spectrum I made sure we actually put them out (be honest, pretty much NOBODY did that) I turn down power where we don't need it. I do my best to make sure we are compliant. I fought bosses to remove non compliant stuff I put up before I knew better. For the most part, I'm a good fucking neighbor, ask anybody abutting me. (with the exception of one location I collocate where I'm a dick, but a legal dick) So you can understand my dismay, being the pillar of the spectrum community Ive tried to be (also found out today I inadvertently fucked a fellow wisp on a bad choice I made with no follow up, I owned it with him and will be working on fixing that as of tomorrow) I approach everything with combat boots, assuming a battle. I'm guessing when it gets in the database this backhaul is going to be UBNT 11ghz, or some other nonsense (probably affiliated with the over wind loaded tower 3/4 miles away with 3, yes 3, UBNT 5ghz peanut shaped airfibers within 8 feet of one another (one link, one side points to the sky the other side points to the dirt) The question I have is about lease rules, and contract law, which the bulk of you old timers has dealt with. If the other operator (if its who I suspect it is, they use fuckery, like the UBNT demo mode, or whatever its called and other such garbage to even operate overpowered in DFS channels) doesn't want to play ball, as in "shut that shit off" will we be able to fight it? I know what went down, and how it went down, and I suspect I know who it is. The usual, guy approaches a site owner, offers unrealistic unicorn farts, unicorn farts always win, spectrum gets fucked. We do 5 year auto renewing leases, with 2 year breakouts. (you guys would likely cream your jeans seeing our lease, and though Ive asked, no I cant share it publicly, and yes, it was drawn up by an attorney) we get full control of the 5, 6, 11, 3, 2, 900mhz, etc spectrum (I don't have a lease handy to see the specific wording) per the site. I know we wouldn't have a horse in the race with the FCC, but with this boiling down to contract law, whats to stop us from A. willful interference (assuming out power doesn't get cut) and B. a cease and desist from a court for the other ISP, pending the 2 year termination? I'm handing this to the boss to handle, because my communication will start with "listen here motherfucker" and I don't see that as conducive to a positive outcome. I had my boy with me when I came to the site today because I was just getting accurate AGLs for bringing in a licensed backhaul. If he hadn't been with me, I probably would have yanked their ghetto enclosure
[AFMUG] 15.1 Radar
Ever since upgrading to 15.1 the beginning of June, I'm noticing a significant jump in radar incidents on several of my 450 APs on different towers pointing in different directions. Anyone else seeing an increase? The Y-axis in the attached image is radar events in increments of 50. Chris Wright Network Administrator
Re: [AFMUG] Li-ion Battery Backup
I’m figuring seven 26650 (3.7V, 5000mAh) batteries in series (~26V, 5Ah) x4 in parallel (~26V, 20Ah) would keep a Netonix switch, two backhauls, and an AP or two up for 8 hours with a power draw ~2.5A @ 24V and use significantly less weight and space. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 12:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Li-ion Battery Backup And if you don't charge it right ;-) On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 3:11 PM Bill Prince wrote: Depending on how you figure li-ion battery voltage (I use 3.7 volts per cell; I've seen some others say 3.6 volts per cell), it will take 13 li-ion batteries to make 48 volts. The big issue that I can imagine is that li-ion have a completely different charging profile from SLA batteries. I don't know whether it would be better to try to build an array at 48 volts, or go for something much larger (say 480 volts), and do a DC-DC converter to get whatever voltage you want on the other side. This will be an interesting discussion. bp On 6/22/2017 11:36 AM, Chris Wright wrote: Lithium Ion batteries are getting so cheap these days it�s tempting to fabricate a battery bank out of them and use them for backup power. Do they behave well with constant voltage running through them supplied by a typical Mean Well AC to DC Converter, or would a special maintainer with an automatic transfer switch be required? � Chris Wright Network Administrator �
Re: [AFMUG] Li-ion Battery Backup
Aw but that takes all the fun out of it. J Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Li-ion Battery Backup Go buy a wrecked electric car battery. From: Chris Wright Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 12:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Li-ion Battery Backup Lithium Ion batteries are getting so cheap these days it’s tempting to fabricate a battery bank out of them and use them for backup power. Do they behave well with constant voltage running through them supplied by a typical Mean Well AC to DC Converter, or would a special maintainer with an automatic transfer switch be required? Chris Wright Network Administrator
[AFMUG] Li-ion Battery Backup
Lithium Ion batteries are getting so cheap these days it's tempting to fabricate a battery bank out of them and use them for backup power. Do they behave well with constant voltage running through them supplied by a typical Mean Well AC to DC Converter, or would a special maintainer with an automatic transfer switch be required? Chris Wright Network Administrator
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Cloud Router Switch and 1Gbps
Gigabit on Cat5 is only good for about 80 feet. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 4:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Cloud Router Switch and 1Gbps We use a lot of these Mikrotik 24 port rack mount switches. Does anyone else have trouble getting there copper ethernet ports to hold 1Gbps connections on around 150 foot cat-5 runs with APC surge arrestors? I have had this issue with PMP450i gear doing sync over power but now I am having the issue with SAF Lumina gear as well and there is no sync over power there.
Re: [AFMUG] Need a better mikrotik tunnel than EOIP
I get a hair over 200mbps over encrypted EOIP on a pair of CCR1036’s with no optimizing (can they be optimized, anyone?). Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Need a better mikrotik tunnel than EOIP For whatever reason, my tunnel has collapsed. throughput went from a consistent 80 percent of our limiting upstream (100mbps) now over 10 and it goes latency shit I don't know if its the tunnel as a singularity or if its saturation of the upstream causing some issues Fuckall when you have super asymmetric bandwidth and saturate the little one EOIP had too much overhead to run encryption on the rb1100ahx2, we are switching to the CCRs now so it my be better, but I'm finding for external transit, EOIP doesn't seem to be the right hammer
Re: [AFMUG] "Nah, I'll run the cable myself for a whole lot cheaper!"
No idea, but the copper was stranded, about 3 gauges too thick, and had a super noise-rejecting twist of 4x per foot. xD Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "Nah, I'll run the cable myself for a whole lot cheaper!" What in the world is that garbage? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Chris Wright wrote: When is Cambium going to realize that DB9 is the future!? Chris Wright Network Administrator
Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment
My best guess would be a battery-powered PoE with a built-in wifi module to enable installers to survey and install from a tablet/phone. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment "airCube ISP" ??? -- Forwarded message -- From: FCC ID Alert Date: Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 11:30 AM Subject: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment To: cstann...@gmail.com A new FCC ID application has been submitted by Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. for New Equipment. See FCC ID SWX-ACBISP <http://email.fccid.io/c/eJwljbsOgyAUQL9GtpLLQ7gMDNRo0q2JQ7sigpL4aJSpX1-TJmc40zmjFdrHYEi2HJgGBZwpAUxQpSUaKmWL6HSNTes66VglIYWQR7rFQmbLo1JoBoQawCQPwSRkfNTJJ_ToGVmtTsOXLHYu5XNWwlW8u_g38n5p_3rfXHN_9E9y2HAWv23xOK_PtPq80LCvPwUeLu0> Equipment Authorized: airCube ISP unsubscribe <http://email.fccid.io/u/eJwNyzEOwyAMAMDXhBEZMNgMDChK_-E60CI1VEryf7W3314CSdNsRvHgCBJ4lwK4YBMhZ4u4MVeKvG71gdUtCF117Ha227xLZ3xmpNwAQKJApA4xMGcnrQuoOYtet8zZzutfX4eMj9XvYe6y-PoD7Okihw> <http://email.fccid.io/o/eJwNzMENwyAMAMBpyhNhIDY8eERRuodrTItUqJTk1enbG-BqCcQq2fTiHZBD5wGDg2CRYso2xj2llZa07es9rnCLron0aqde5lUap8yp-qrAGCh4Rx5EQXFBwKpmFGqPrzmKnBfPqcf5H56D-9vKZ_wAG-cjkA>
Re: [AFMUG] IP Architects
Even so, like Paul said... something sounds broken because OSPF should have better preference as its distance default is 110, while BGP distance default is 200. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 3:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Architects I'm assuming Mikrotik since he's working with IPArchitechs. *Usually* you don’t want to see routes to your own network coming in through the internet when you're muti-homed so you add discard rules for your subnets on your upstream-bgp-in route filters. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 2:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Architects Something sounds seriously broken there as OSPF should always have a lower route preference on any router (not sure what you’re using here) so any lookups within your network will always be preferred. I get your point though .. if these guys are “experts” then for them it should be pretty trivial to diagnose… actually sounds like you have too many filters in place that are causing the problem (just a guess but no reason to use filters in OSPF typically) > On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:58 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > > Any reason you don't drop those subnets on your upstream-bgp-in filters? > > Chris Wright > Network Administrator > > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 1:45 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Architects > > It is a routing problem, probably a BGP change outside of us. > > But I have internal BGP and several /24 subnets that I don't want to route > around the internet and back to myself, just to hop directly between my two > Mikrotik BGP instances. > > That seems to be the major hangup right now. > > I have a single static entry to route a specific block from one Mikrotik to > the other, but need a more general policy BGP related that gets automatically > filtered down to my OSPF network and MPLS to keep all of my own inter-subnet > communications internal instead of trying to roam all over creation and back > to myself. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 12:02 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Architects > > on-list of off-list > > Care to share what is the problem you are trying or needing to solve ? > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > - Original Message - >> From: "Sterling Jacobson" >> To: "af@afmug.com" >> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:53:32 AM >> Subject: [AFMUG] IP Architects > >> So far, not so good with them. >> >> I've spent about $340 for an hour and a half time to have them modify >> one temporary route rule in fifteen seconds. >> Rest of the time appeared to be them attempting to figure things out >> on BGP/eBGP and OSPF. >> >> That didn't fix my problem, just a patch to get some traffic >> re-routed, but left me with a bunch of other problems. >> >> When I asked them about the charge, they wouldn't work with me. >> >> I expect a lot more out of a team that charges top dollar for being >> the top experts. >> >> I'm having problems communicating and scheduling time now to get that >> permanently fixed. >> It appears they want to create an entire lab with separate equipment, >> spending hours of my money, to understand the problem. >> >> So, yeah, not what I was expecting out of them at all. >
Re: [AFMUG] IP Architects
I'm assuming Mikrotik since he's working with IPArchitechs. *Usually* you don’t want to see routes to your own network coming in through the internet when you're muti-homed so you add discard rules for your subnets on your upstream-bgp-in route filters. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 2:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Architects Something sounds seriously broken there as OSPF should always have a lower route preference on any router (not sure what you’re using here) so any lookups within your network will always be preferred. I get your point though .. if these guys are “experts” then for them it should be pretty trivial to diagnose… actually sounds like you have too many filters in place that are causing the problem (just a guess but no reason to use filters in OSPF typically) > On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:58 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > > Any reason you don't drop those subnets on your upstream-bgp-in filters? > > Chris Wright > Network Administrator > > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 1:45 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Architects > > It is a routing problem, probably a BGP change outside of us. > > But I have internal BGP and several /24 subnets that I don't want to route > around the internet and back to myself, just to hop directly between my two > Mikrotik BGP instances. > > That seems to be the major hangup right now. > > I have a single static entry to route a specific block from one Mikrotik to > the other, but need a more general policy BGP related that gets automatically > filtered down to my OSPF network and MPLS to keep all of my own inter-subnet > communications internal instead of trying to roam all over creation and back > to myself. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 12:02 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Architects > > on-list of off-list > > Care to share what is the problem you are trying or needing to solve ? > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > - Original Message - >> From: "Sterling Jacobson" >> To: "af@afmug.com" >> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:53:32 AM >> Subject: [AFMUG] IP Architects > >> So far, not so good with them. >> >> I've spent about $340 for an hour and a half time to have them modify >> one temporary route rule in fifteen seconds. >> Rest of the time appeared to be them attempting to figure things out >> on BGP/eBGP and OSPF. >> >> That didn't fix my problem, just a patch to get some traffic >> re-routed, but left me with a bunch of other problems. >> >> When I asked them about the charge, they wouldn't work with me. >> >> I expect a lot more out of a team that charges top dollar for being >> the top experts. >> >> I'm having problems communicating and scheduling time now to get that >> permanently fixed. >> It appears they want to create an entire lab with separate equipment, >> spending hours of my money, to understand the problem. >> >> So, yeah, not what I was expecting out of them at all. >
Re: [AFMUG] IP Architects
Any reason you don't drop those subnets on your upstream-bgp-in filters? Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 1:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Architects It is a routing problem, probably a BGP change outside of us. But I have internal BGP and several /24 subnets that I don't want to route around the internet and back to myself, just to hop directly between my two Mikrotik BGP instances. That seems to be the major hangup right now. I have a single static entry to route a specific block from one Mikrotik to the other, but need a more general policy BGP related that gets automatically filtered down to my OSPF network and MPLS to keep all of my own inter-subnet communications internal instead of trying to roam all over creation and back to myself. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 12:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Architects on-list of off-list Care to share what is the problem you are trying or needing to solve ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "Sterling Jacobson" > To: "af@afmug.com" > Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:53:32 AM > Subject: [AFMUG] IP Architects > So far, not so good with them. > > I've spent about $340 for an hour and a half time to have them modify > one temporary route rule in fifteen seconds. > Rest of the time appeared to be them attempting to figure things out > on BGP/eBGP and OSPF. > > That didn't fix my problem, just a patch to get some traffic > re-routed, but left me with a bunch of other problems. > > When I asked them about the charge, they wouldn't work with me. > > I expect a lot more out of a team that charges top dollar for being > the top experts. > > I'm having problems communicating and scheduling time now to get that > permanently fixed. > It appears they want to create an entire lab with separate equipment, > spending hours of my money, to understand the problem. > > So, yeah, not what I was expecting out of them at all.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage
Apocalypse party at Chuck's house! I'll be coming from California so I'll bring my lack of foresight and a vast sense of entitlement. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage That was my first thought... Prepper garage... On 05/26/2017 11:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > Well, it is Utah... > > *From:* Cameron Crum > *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 12:14 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage > > That looks more like a bunker. > > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:41 PM, wrote: > > Slightly more than B deck but no posts or pillars underneath. It > gets a 3" cap of concrete poured over it. > > -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:26 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage > > > I'm totally doing that on my next house. > > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:04 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] OT Garage > > Got my floor/ceiling installed this morning. I do not understand > why they did not start at one end and place them all in a sequence. > When they came to install this last slab, the hole was too large and > they had to scootch everything around. > >
Re: [AFMUG] kodi?
Why would you even support streaming issues to legitimate sources? Not your fault if some legitimate service has peering or throughput issues. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? Actually speaking here, as a provider you really dont have to support kodi and there streaming issues on the box if you can show that the services work without kodi and streaming your off the hook on supporting it. With kodi you dont know what connection or server your connecting to heck it could be connecting to server in china for all you know then next thing you know you get DDoS attacked from somebody over seas etc. I am going to start making my customers sign an waver stating that if you have jail broken device like andriod box or firestick/tv and using kodi we will not support any streaming issues you may have with the service. _ -Original Message- From: "Kurt Fankhauser" To: af@afmug.com Date: 05/25/17 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? I am getting more and more calls every week from clients saying that their "streaming isn't working." Upon investigating each one of these cases the customer always has purchased a "jailbroken" firestick loaded with KODI and they are expecting to watch all kinds of movies for free. >From what I can tell this is very un-reliable compared to just paying for Netflix. Sometimes the streams work and sometimes they don't. I basically have been telling customers that what their doing is no different than the old satellite days where people put the hacked cards into their set top boxes and get all the satellite channels for free. But those cards were always getting "zapped" and you were constantly having to get new cards and re-program cards so your spending so much time dealing with the "un-reliable' TV watching experience that it would have just been cheaper to pay for the service legally in the first place. My solution for these customers has been to just tell them to pay $10 for Netflix and be done with it. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:02 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: haven't been able to reach him yet. - Original Message - From: Jeremy <mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? Why don't you ask him? On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 8:21 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: out of the 250 or so "warnings" received through this morning, about 80% appear to be tv shows and random episodes of such tv shows. that is why i was thinking kodi. perhaps he browsed around just to see what would work and what wouldn't. i've never played with kodi but if this guy has this volume of entertainment on his hard drive i would be surprised and would say he has no life. plus he has been a customer for a while - he isn't anyone new :) - Original Message - From: Tim Reichhart <mailto:timreichh...@hometowncable.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? with kodi you can download/add on for like utorrent to download movies or you can also download exodus. _ -Original Message- From: "Joe Novak" To: af@afmug.com Date: 05/25/17 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? To be honest, unless he is using some odd P2P addon for Kodi it's unlikely. Most of the addons comb the net for the videos and aggregate the links for you to watch on Kodi - which means your not sharing it back. Some kind of popcorn time variant which is built on bittorrent is more likely, but I don't know if any of those still exist. Joe On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 9:09 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: we have a customer who literally has gotten no fewer than 150 complaints from both fox and ip-echelon ? (sp) in the last 24 hours. either he has downloaded half the internet or perhaps he has one of these new illegal kodi boxes. some of you with more experience than us in dealing with this - is it likely he has a kodi box? The alerts seem almost in real time but then again, they also seem to be coming after we turned his service off I know there is a safe harbor provision out there where we could basically put on our website any copyright violations must be delivered to us in writing and we could basically ignore these.but we haven't gotten that many in the past. thoughts? thanks
Re: [AFMUG] Would you like some porn with your shopping?
This is delicious. If you’re on reddit, please post on /r/talesfromtechsupport for that sweet karma. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Would you like some porn with your shopping? A customer of mine decided they needed some digital displays for their mall. As part of the deal, they decided to replace our Internet ($500/month) with a fiber circuit ($2,500/month)... because we were "too expensive" and redo the WiFi we installed for something like $50k because there were a "few dead spots." Even though we were specifically told not to cover those areas. Total cost of contract to new vendor? $2.2 million. They fired the IT consultant we had been working with and replaced him with the new vendor. After months of not being able to get just about anything to work, they re-hired the IT consultant and kept us and expanded our role. After the IT consultant warned for months the digital displays were insecure, the person in charge of them did nothing. So, today, everyone in the mall was greeted with porn on the monitors. Needless to say, the guy in charge of the project is finally being fired.
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Retention - Benefits, Insurance, etc.
Am I to infer it is better to have a less competent employee, rather than pay a little extra to retain someone who is worth it? Not sure I like that business model. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Retention - Benefits, Insurance, etc. That's a really good benefit. But it's also a double-edged sword. I agree with that policy 1000 percent, but it can also quickly lead your employees to other, better paying/benefit jobs because they have increased their worth. So although I'm very for that, as a business owner I would advise against it unless you are also prepared to increase their compensation and benefits to retain them. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Retention - Benefits, Insurance, etc. Ah yes, I forgot! CompTIA A+ and Net+ reimbursement and bonuses upon completion are popular around here, as well as other relevant training/courses like MTCNA, MTCRE, etc. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Retention - Benefits, Insurance, etc. Tuition reimbursement for industry related personal development? Paul McCall wrote: > > Yes, we do that. Exactly as you described. And, after 2 years, they > get 2 weeks. After 6 years, they get 3 weeks. > > Paul > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy > *Sent:* Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:17 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Employee Retention - Benefits, Insurance, etc. > > I would assume that you already provide paid holidays and paid > vacation. I only have one employee and I provide this benefit. Paid > holidays after 90 days, one week of paid vacation after one year of > employment. > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Paul McCall <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote: > > OK, > > Our WISP, Florida Broadband, has reached the point where we need > to start addressing employee needs for the long term. I have some > good “guys” and don’t want to lose them because of not taking good > care of them. Most of them are relatively young and health > insurance hasn’t been needed, but its still nice to have if I can > find any way to afford it. Plus there are many other > considerations rattling around in my cranial vault. > > So, my points of concern are: > > Health Insurance – what creative options can be used?, what % of > coverage is employee contributed?, what levels of coverage are > typically offered? > > 401Ks – same type questions, is at a % contribution that the > company would match?, other create elements ? > > Life Insurance – I understand some tower companies (we are not > one) – purchase a small life insurance policy for the employer as > a benefit > > (one employee who climbs occasionally) used to work for a tower > company that had a $ 50K policy for each person > > Other benefits or perks – I feel this can be a big one – > interested to see what creative things can be done in this area. > > Thanks in advance for sharing what you have found successful > > Paul > > Paul McCall, President > > PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. > > 658 Old Dixie Highway > > Vero Beach, FL 32962 > > 772-564-6800 > > pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> > > www.pdmnet.com <http://www.pdmnet.com> > > www.floridabroadband.com <http://www.floridabroadband.com> > > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&u > tm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Retention - Benefits, Insurance, etc.
Ah yes, I forgot! CompTIA A+ and Net+ reimbursement and bonuses upon completion are popular around here, as well as other relevant training/courses like MTCNA, MTCRE, etc. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Retention - Benefits, Insurance, etc. Tuition reimbursement for industry related personal development? Paul McCall wrote: > > Yes, we do that. Exactly as you described. And, after 2 years, they > get 2 weeks. After 6 years, they get 3 weeks. > > Paul > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy > *Sent:* Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:17 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Employee Retention - Benefits, Insurance, etc. > > I would assume that you already provide paid holidays and paid > vacation. I only have one employee and I provide this benefit. Paid > holidays after 90 days, one week of paid vacation after one year of > employment. > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Paul McCall <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote: > > OK, > > Our WISP, Florida Broadband, has reached the point where we need > to start addressing employee needs for the long term. I have some > good “guys” and don’t want to lose them because of not taking good > care of them. Most of them are relatively young and health > insurance hasn’t been needed, but its still nice to have if I can > find any way to afford it. Plus there are many other > considerations rattling around in my cranial vault. > > So, my points of concern are: > > Health Insurance – what creative options can be used?, what % of > coverage is employee contributed?, what levels of coverage are > typically offered? > > 401Ks – same type questions, is at a % contribution that the > company would match?, other create elements ? > > Life Insurance – I understand some tower companies (we are not > one) – purchase a small life insurance policy for the employer as > a benefit > > (one employee who climbs occasionally) used to work for a tower > company that had a $ 50K policy for each person > > Other benefits or perks – I feel this can be a big one – > interested to see what creative things can be done in this area. > > Thanks in advance for sharing what you have found successful > > Paul > > Paul McCall, President > > PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. > > 658 Old Dixie Highway > > Vero Beach, FL 32962 > > 772-564-6800 > > pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> > > www.pdmnet.com <http://www.pdmnet.com> > > www.floridabroadband.com <http://www.floridabroadband.com> > > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&u > tm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
Re: [AFMUG] Putting on big boy IPv6 pants
I think there are more of us in the same boat as you than you know. IPv6 has been a standard since 1998, any customer router that doesn’t support IPv6 can pound sand as far as I’m concerned. Since the vast majority of my network is non-static, I hope to roll out IPv6 tower by tower, but until Mikrotik starts supporting NAT64 or someone comes up with a magic box to do it for me, it’s looking like IPv4 CGNAT is the only way out of this squeeze. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 9:55 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Putting on big boy IPv6 pants I admit I'm more ignorant when it comes to IPv6 than I should be, so there may be an obvious answer to this... but if you're not giving out any IPv4, how are the customer's devices that don't support IPv6 going to work? Will that somehow get handled by the customer's router? On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Chris Wright wrote: This right here, no CGNAT silliness, I want something that moves my network distinctly forward. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 7:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Putting on big boy IPv6 pants I want to just give the customer a V6 and the edge appliance will nat the v4 only destinations. From: Paul Stewart Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 6:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Putting on big boy IPv6 pants We dual stack and will continue as long as possible … really hoping to avoid transition stuff but who knows for sure if that’s just a pipe dream or not ;) On May 10, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Chris Wright wrote: I’m weighing the pros/cons of purchasing another block of IPv4 at auction or finding a NAT64 solution that will enable me to start handing IPv6 addresses to customers and know they’ll be able to get to IPv4 internet without issue. Mikrotik doesn’t seem too concerned with implementing NAT64, so I’d be looking at adding complexity to my network if I go that direction. On the other hand, I don’t like spending thousands of dollars on antiquated address space if I can help it. I’d rather do my part in moving IP standards forward instead of staying stuck in the past. What’s working for you all? Chris Wright Network Administrator
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Retention - Benefits, Insurance, etc.
Some recent trends I’m noticing with benefit packages if you’re looking for ideas: Free Amazon Prime (only costs the employer $99/year, small beans compared to 401k matching or Health Insurance contributions but is perceived as a REALLY neat perk). Partial/Full internet reimbursement. Partial/Full cell phone reimbursement. Partial/Full gym membership reimbursement. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 9:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Retention - Benefits, Insurance, etc. don't forget billable hour commissions if you do billable time, 5 bucks per billable hour stands to put a decent amount of dough in a motivated employees pocket On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Paul McCall wrote: Yes, we do that. Exactly as you described. And, after 2 years, they get 2 weeks. After 6 years, they get 3 weeks. Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Retention - Benefits, Insurance, etc. I would assume that you already provide paid holidays and paid vacation. I only have one employee and I provide this benefit. Paid holidays after 90 days, one week of paid vacation after one year of employment. On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Paul McCall wrote: OK, Our WISP, Florida Broadband, has reached the point where we need to start addressing employee needs for the long term. I have some good “guys” and don’t want to lose them because of not taking good care of them. Most of them are relatively young and health insurance hasn’t been needed, but its still nice to have if I can find any way to afford it. Plus there are many other considerations rattling around in my cranial vault. So, my points of concern are: Health Insurance – what creative options can be used?, what % of coverage is employee contributed?, what levels of coverage are typically offered? 401Ks – same type questions, is at a % contribution that the company would match?, other create elements ? Life Insurance – I understand some tower companies (we are not one) – purchase a small life insurance policy for the employer as a benefit (one employee who climbs occasionally) used to work for a tower company that had a $ 50K policy for each person Other benefits or perks – I feel this can be a big one – interested to see what creative things can be done in this area. Thanks in advance for sharing what you have found successful Paul Paul McCall, President PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 pa...@pdmnet.net www.pdmnet.com www.floridabroadband.com
Re: [AFMUG] owner vs employee staff valuation
Yep, there is significant value in the type of person whose mind is never really “off the clock.” No part time contract worker is going to care for that network as much as the guy/gal who can’t stop themselves from pulling up traffic graphs every half hour in the evenings/weekends. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] owner vs employee staff valuation I calculate that at about $45k to $120k depending on your network. There either has to be an all in one guy that can monitor the network and respond to complicated issues correctly 24/7 ($120k guy), or one or more NOC techs ($45k) that can do that 24/7 and somehow bring you or someone capable on site, on time, every time, when something happens and pay per hour on top. I found the latter to be nearly impossible to find, or a person willing to be the 24/7 guy without significant pay or ownership, or likely both. That is the real key. It’s hard for management, or partners, to wrap their head around this concept. Until something horrible breaks, and no one is there to properly fix it for hours, and you lose a significant chunk of your customers/revenue over the incident(s). From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 7:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] owner vs employee staff valuation $60K From: Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 12:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] owner vs employee staff valuation I'm very curious, primarily from owners with admin staff about staff valuation. I'm a pretty critical guy here, I think a lot of that is due to the fact I don't spread my role freely. I'm the admin, , that's pretty straight forward. I'm the tier 3, or two, whichever you assign to tech support that actually solves problems or initiates disconnects that cant be resoled vi a call one. We also do network support, I only really generate 5-20 billable hours on that. Not to be cocky, but a lot of those limited 5-20 is my efficiency... I'm really good at my job. Last year I recommended dropping one of our techs, which freed up a ton of dough, gave us the option to go to serverplus. the frees uo a substantial amount of my tier 2/3 time (their tier1 is much more inclusive than ours, We brought in a contractor on our ISP side to handle the BGP followed by IP6 adoption. Their continued support for the transit component of our network is not a terrible cost What I have found is my cost to the company is substantially higher than a recurring contract with them. Essentially, we offset the whole of the transit on our network and more with the ditching 0f the tech That leaves me with pretty much posting to afmug for advice on new stuff. We have "reliable" outsource site/tower guys As an administrator, I genuinely think I found a route to replace myself with a substantial savings, with the exception of new product/technology exploration. a pretty good discount. Installers are just s cost, if we need more, we get more, like fish. Assuming you guys have a guy for everything other than going to Afmug to get advice, how much is the afmug guy worth. ( I use the list just for example) I know I'm not the first guy who found what on its face to be a highly cost effective solution to replace their "network guy" and found a flaw whats the flaw?
Re: [AFMUG] Putting on big boy IPv6 pants
Because CGNAT for IPv4 is a step in the opposite direction. Though it may very well come to that. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Putting on big boy IPv6 pants Why not dual stack with CGNAT IPv4 and public IPv6? Hand your lower speed tier accounts a NATed IPv4 in 100.64.0.0/10 and a public /64 in IPv6. What I am thinking of doing when the IPv4 squeeze hits us but I still have not figured out how to track abuse etc in the NATed space. Anyone made that work with Mikrotik? We are doing dual stack public IPv4 and IPv6 with PPPoE right now but it seems that mostly only pppoe users with Mikrotik routers pick up the IPv6. Mikrotik seems to be lagging a bit on IPv6 support as well. No IPv6 accounting yet, no easy way to assign IPv6 subnet with radius etc. On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > I’m weighing the pros/cons of purchasing another block of IPv4 at > auction or finding a NAT64 solution that will enable me to start > handing IPv6 addresses to customers and know they’ll be able to get to IPv4 > internet without issue. > Mikrotik doesn’t seem too concerned with implementing NAT64, so I’d be > looking at adding complexity to my network if I go that direction. On > the other hand, I don’t like spending thousands of dollars on > antiquated address space if I can help it. I’d rather do my part in > moving IP standards forward instead of staying stuck in the past. > > > > What’s working for you all? > > > > Chris Wright > > Network Administrator > >
Re: [AFMUG] Putting on big boy IPv6 pants
This right here, no CGNAT silliness, I want something that moves my network distinctly forward. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 7:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Putting on big boy IPv6 pants I want to just give the customer a V6 and the edge appliance will nat the v4 only destinations. From: Paul Stewart Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 6:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Putting on big boy IPv6 pants We dual stack and will continue as long as possible … really hoping to avoid transition stuff but who knows for sure if that’s just a pipe dream or not ;) On May 10, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Chris Wright wrote: I’m weighing the pros/cons of purchasing another block of IPv4 at auction or finding a NAT64 solution that will enable me to start handing IPv6 addresses to customers and know they’ll be able to get to IPv4 internet without issue. Mikrotik doesn’t seem too concerned with implementing NAT64, so I’d be looking at adding complexity to my network if I go that direction. On the other hand, I don’t like spending thousands of dollars on antiquated address space if I can help it. I’d rather do my part in moving IP standards forward instead of staying stuck in the past. What’s working for you all? Chris Wright Network Administrator
Re: [AFMUG] Putting on big boy IPv6 pants
Yeah, that's the thing - dual stacking does not work as it is intended because the vast majority of servers in IPv4 land are dragging their feet on adopting IPv6; it does not save providers from IPv4 scarcity. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 3:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Putting on big boy IPv6 pants Nothing at the moment, still dual stack IPv4 and IPv6 Also interested if someone has figured this out with a half decent solution as I need to purchase another /22 this year. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Putting on big boy IPv6 pants I'm weighing the pros/cons of purchasing another block of IPv4 at auction or finding a NAT64 solution that will enable me to start handing IPv6 addresses to customers and know they'll be able to get to IPv4 internet without issue. Mikrotik doesn't seem too concerned with implementing NAT64, so I'd be looking at adding complexity to my network if I go that direction. On the other hand, I don't like spending thousands of dollars on antiquated address space if I can help it. I'd rather do my part in moving IP standards forward instead of staying stuck in the past. What's working for you all? Chris Wright Network Administrator
[AFMUG] Putting on big boy IPv6 pants
I'm weighing the pros/cons of purchasing another block of IPv4 at auction or finding a NAT64 solution that will enable me to start handing IPv6 addresses to customers and know they'll be able to get to IPv4 internet without issue. Mikrotik doesn't seem too concerned with implementing NAT64, so I'd be looking at adding complexity to my network if I go that direction. On the other hand, I don't like spending thousands of dollars on antiquated address space if I can help it. I'd rather do my part in moving IP standards forward instead of staying stuck in the past. What's working for you all? Chris Wright Network Administrator
Re: [AFMUG] winbox 3
Winbox v3 came out almost three years ago… What happens if you try to use the older Winbox version? Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Philip Rankin Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 2:58 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] winbox 3 I have recently downloaded a new version of Winbox, Winbox 3, I think. It has a different gui than the old winbox software that I have always used. anyway, it picked up all of my router informations that I had stored in my old Winbox and it worked perfectly for a few days. Then one day, it failed to log into one of my RB493AH router. It gives me an Error: "corrupted gzip". I'm first to admit that I really don't understand how Winbox really works, but didn't think it had anything to do with gzip since I'm running it on a W7 machine. So, I figured the error was something to do with the router, not Winbox. But, my old Winbox gets right into the 493 with no issues. Can anyone tell me what's up? Any ideas on how to fix the error? I searched the MT wiki and didn't find any leads. I also searched Google for just 'corrupted gzip' and I wasn't at all excited about what Google was saying. Lookin' for an easy fix! -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762
Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance
Had me going until the very end! Well played and congratulations to you both! Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brian Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 9:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance Pick any brand of Chinese anti-virus and that will do the trick! Congrats! On 5/9/2017 11:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: I cannot believe you haha! Great way to announce a pregnancy lol 😂😂 On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 6:13 PM Joe Novak wrote: LOL. Excellent delivery. Congrats Steve! On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Steve Jones wrote: Hers the initial diagnostic output On May 9, 2017 9:52 AM, "Steve Jones" wrote: There is only one infected device. The malicious code that is replicating is directly attached to the command and control node. I know a lot of people would simply CleanSweep, but we just don't feel that is an appropriate step. There may be an IOT baby monitor that gets swept up in all this before its over in December. On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:34 AM, David Milholen wrote: As any virus running on a network it has a pattern weather it be dormant on the network at times or not. Identify the pattern and where it is trying to phone home to and isolate it from phoning home. Then Clean sweep the machines you have control of. The worst part of any of this is that IOT devices IE(ip cameras,dvrs, tempature monitors and others) are the real threat as they have weak basic code that is open to the network. Isolation will be your best bet. This will prevent DDOS attacks on one front but doesnt stop new viruses from entering. On 5/8/2017 10:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote: an addendum to this, there are two primay variants to the payload. One tends to be much more aggressive, a much more roughly defined code, not all that pretty, but ultimately very versatile and robust. The other is normally more elegant in design, but it tends to be visciously malicious, this is the one to be most concerned of. Its underlying code has started wars and destroyed nations On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Steve Jones wrote: So this weekend I discovered a Trojan virus on my network. Sometime around January we had opted to remove an old firewall that had met its product life cycles end. We were still in the process of deciding whether to continue with temporary firewalls or look toward more robust input/output chain policies for a hardened, more permanent solution. In the mean time, of course, we continued to do the upload/download thing. We had some suspicion that there was something going on, we noted alot of broadcast storms, particularly in the mornings. The network had become particularly sluggish and there seemed to be alot of application bloat, initially i just attributed this to poor code maintenance resulting in a memory leak. We did a basic Netstat this weekend and discovered a traffic anomaly. So we went to a professional and had them run a packet sniffer. We had verification of foreign code, likely for as long as 6-8 weeks. It will be layer 3 in this case but its too early to tell whether this codes payload will be TCP or UDP, we will be monitoring as the code replicates. This is a pretty common virus, as a matter of fact we have all had it at one point, probably so long ago we dont even remember. We anticipate The fully formed packet chain to leave NAT mode and be fully routed out to the WAN in December. -- -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?
LAN parties are alive and well in my town. Next LAN is in five weeks! Honestly, LAN party weekends beat out Thanksgiving for my favorite holiday. The atmosphere of LANs has definitely changed though. Ten years ago it was quite easy to get 30 nerds to play a particular game like Savage or UT together. Today gamer culture has become divided as genres are better defined. You’ll have a few guys in one area playing Overwatch, Halo, or Call of Duty, more groups playing MOBAs like Dota/LoL, and then you have RPGs – WoW being the most popular. Gamers are no longer “Gamers.” They’re “RTS Gamers” or “MOBA Gamers” or “FPS Gamers”. Still, getting a bunch of people who abhor sunlight as much as I do for a weekend of nostalgia amidst a tangle of Cat5 is just as fun as it’s ever been. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 6:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better? I do miss the communities and hidden adventure around BBSes, BBS gatherings, and LAN parties. - Josh On May 4, 2017 7:40 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Kermit Dial up BBSs Floppys Nah, not really, I don’t really miss any of that. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 6:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better? I miss the days when all you needed was Procomm with the fuchsia and yellow screen. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 6:24 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better? Just noticed this thread. I use "Bitvise SSH client" for my unix terminal needs. I use Putty and TeraTerm as well. I also have used SecureCRT in the past, but I have a hard time paying what they're asking, especially since I found Bitvise (and the fact I'm not in a terminal window nearly as much as I used to be). On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 8:41 PM, Steve Jones wrote: I use the shit out of putty (and winSCP) I'm a GUI gimp, I will own that. Is there any better set of tools for the windows environment? Not Complaining at all, or looking to change, I get a ton done with these two applications, just curious if there are even better solutions -- Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc. Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 forre...@imach.com | <http://www.packetflux.com/> http://www.packetflux.com <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.wisestamp.com/icons/linkedin.png <http://facebook.com/packetflux> https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.wisestamp.com/icons/facebook.png <http://twitter.com/@packetflux> https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.wisestamp.com/icons/twitter.png http://ws-stats.appspot.com/t/pixel.png?e=setup_page_outlook_composehttp://ws-stats.appspot.com/t/pixel.png?e=setup_page_outlook_active&uid=e965778f9a351fad7a8a860dffc144cehttp://ws-stats.appspot.com/t/pixel.png?e=setup_page_outlook_active&uid=e965778f9a351fad7a8a860dffc144ce
Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better?
+1 for MobaXterm. It’s a treasure trove of functionality. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 7:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Putty, is there any better? MobaXterm does all of those as well, and it also has a built in x11 server :P Okay, I'll shut up about this client now. It is amazing though. - Josh On May 4, 2017 9:13 AM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: https://mremoteng.org/ On 5/3/2017 9:41 PM, Steve Jones wrote: I use the shit out of putty (and winSCP) I'm a GUI gimp, I will own that. Is there any better set of tools for the windows environment? Not Complaining at all, or looking to change, I get a ton done with these two applications, just curious if there are even better solutions -- Simon Westlake Email: simon@sonar.software Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA --- Sonar Software Inc The future of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
Re: [AFMUG] ATT Reseller
I’ve been happy with Intelletrace. Hit up my guy Matt and tell him I sent ya. J mnarah...@intelletrace.com Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 8:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ATT Reseller Never the same price as direct.. in my experience. On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 10:39 AM, TJ Trout wrote: Usually same price as direct On May 3, 2017 7:37 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: What kind of service? - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _ From: "Gino A. Villarini" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:31:59 AM Subject: [AFMUG] ATT Reseller Any good ATT reseller with good pricing ? Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
[AFMUG] Rackspace Opinions Wanted
We're looking hard at moving away from our current hosted IMAP provider to Rackspace. I recall Sterling having quite the heated opinion about them last year, but wanted to gauge the current consensus from those who use them for hosted IMAP, Exchange, what have you. Their reseller is competitive with what we're currently paying, but it's a big trigger to pull and you all know as well as I do how ISP email has such a terrible headache-to-value ratio. Chris Wright Network Administrator
Re: [AFMUG] DHCP Declines IP Address several times a second
Sounds like it's in the process of bricking itself, no need to do that for them! If factory defaulting the Apple router doesn't fix it, stick a fork in it. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 4:15 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] DHCP Declines IP Address several times a second This is one a Mikrotik CCR DHCP server, but I've never seen this. I have a client, I think an Apple router MAC 20:C9:D0:11:56:F0, that the DHCP says "declines IP address x.x.x.x" several times a second. I have it on static assignment. If I take it off static assignment, it just starts cycling through all available IP addresses in the DHCP pool. Which is horrible, so I'm glad it's on static assignment. If I cut off Ethernet to it, it stops for a while, then starts back up eventually. Not sure what to do other than send someone over there to update the router, or secretly brick it and tell the customer to get a new one, lol!
[AFMUG] Hosted Email for ISPs?
In a world where anyone can get a free 15GB gmail address, what is an ISP to do? Hosted services are unyielding with their price structure and equally miserly with mailbox storage. Of course, they get to worry about a lot of things I enjoy not worrying about - Spam policies, storage I/O, AV, and all the other headaches inherent to hosting email for more than two people. Is there any goldilocks solution out there? Chris Wright Network Administrator
Re: [AFMUG] Searching for a simple Desktop PC
Ever since they got bought by Amazon, Woot.com has had some pretty sweet deals
on the gamut of desktops. http://www.woot.com/category/computers/desktops
Chris Wright
Network Administrator
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:35 AM
To: Motorola III
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Searching for a simple Desktop PC
What does she need to run on it? Have you looked at a Chromebox? They are
certainly cheap, and they are easily replaceable. Most of them will support a
dual monitor setup.
http://www.androidcentral.com/best-chromebox
-bp
On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Nate Burke
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:
The Wife is looking for a new Desktop, She doesn't need anything fancy (i3, i5
is fine), but want's to have 2 monitors hooked up to it (HDMI Inputs) I really
don't feel like building one. Oh, and she want's it cheap. Looking at the
Dell, HP, and Lenovo sites, cheap PC's are really easy to find, but I can't
seem to find any that have dual monitor support. Newegg will let you filter
desktops by Videocard model, but not by Output options.
It seems almost all corporate offices now have dual display setups, so I'd
imagine there should be a ton of these things on the refurb market. Any ideas
what I should be looking for? I'd like to find something in the $200-$300
range.
--
--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
Re: [AFMUG] Netflix and Amazon fire tv QOS Mikrotik
Use ARIN's API to pull Netflix/Amazon subnets then add said subnets to a firewall address list would be my first angle of attack. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Gerlach Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 12:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Netflix and Amazon fire tv QOS Mikrotik how can i catch(mangle) the Traffic from Netflix and Amazon with Mikrotik..since it is https no chance for Layer 7 Any Ideas? thx Daniel
Re: [AFMUG] See Ya later copper
DSL too. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Timothy Steele Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 6:42 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] See Ya later copper Better hurry up and get wireless to all the dialup customers... On Mon, Apr 3, 2017, 8:55 AM Lewis Bergman mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote: AT&T Wants Out of Maintaining Landlines in Illinois Telecom giant AT&T is asking for Illinois’ permission to scrap requirements that the company maintain land-based phone lines, according to the Rock River Times. A recent survey said only four percent of people in Illinois still rely solely on landlines. AT&T has to obtain consent from state legislatures before they can petition the FCC to be allowed to cut off the thousands of miles of land-based phone lines. Other states want this option as well, so the FCC has a vote planned this month by the U.S. Senate to accomplish this. In 2015, the Ohio state legislature voted to allow basic landline services to be withdrawn by the major telecom companies. (see story above) “It’s taking a large investment that could be spent covering the vast majority of their customers for wireless or IP-based phone services,” Brent Skorup, Technology Fellow with the Mercatus Center told the Rock River Times.
Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback
Not out of turn at all! You’re absolutely correct – 10 hour minimum. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback I don't want to speak out of turn, but I think you have to buy a minimum block of time, like 10 hrs if I remember right. I don't think the time expires so if you have an issue that only takes 2 hrs, then you still get your remaining hours to use if you have another issue later. On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:22 PM, can...@believewireless.net<mailto:can...@believewireless.net> mailto:p...@believewireless.net>> wrote: I'll gladly pay more to get the correct answer quickly, then pay someone "less" wasting time looking for the answer. On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Chris Wright mailto:ch...@velociter.net>> wrote: We’ve used them in the past. They are as capable as they are expensive. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback Good bunch of guys who seem to know their stuff. The have a partner arrangement with a DC in Denver they hooked us up with. It's been good for us. On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Paul McCall mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote: I only talked with the sales guy, who obviously was an engineer himself. Their seems to be a ton of knowledge there Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:43 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback We haven't used them yet but the introduction call with a sales guy then nearly an hour long call with an engineer left me feeling warm and fuzzy. We'll likely use them for some large projects coming up. They seem to know what's going on and probably know mikrotik and test it more than most consultants do. Not sure why you're having trouble sterling. They are attentive to me. On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 6:28 PM Paul McCall mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote: Hmmm… they claim 35 consultants on staff… you have had problems Sterling? Can you tell me more? Offlist, if need be From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:38 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback Other than I can never get them to contact me? Nope. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 2:12 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback Anybody have good or bad experience with these folks in the area of Mikrotik consulting? Paul McCall, President PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com> www.floridabroadband.com<http://www.floridabroadband.com> -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi [http://www.snoitulosten.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/facebook-small.jpg]<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ??
We’ve used Generics and HP’s on our Mikrotiks, Generics in our Netonixes. One thing noteworthy: I have never been able to get Netonix switches and RB2011 routers to play nice for long over SFP. (All other Mikrotik models seem to work fine.) If something happens to disrupt Layer 1 (Reboot, SFP change, etc), the Netonix will cease to send traffic to the Mikrotik in spite of the link showing as up until you reseat the SFP in the Netonix. Power cycling the Netonix has no effect, bizarrely enough. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ?? I have these on my RB2011 and WS-12-250-DC http://www.fs.com/products/40191.html http://www.fs.com/products/29848.html Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 6:44 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net>> wrote: Have you tried any of these with a Netonix? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:38 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ?? I'm successfully using all of these with MT: 1G: http://www.fs.com/products/13274.html http://www.fs.com/products/22138.html http://www.fs.com/products/39418.html 10G: http://www.fs.com/products/11591.html On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Andreas Wiatowski mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>> wrote: So if I buy the cisco rated ones they should work too?? Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4238 x-600 http://www.silowireless.com<http://www.silowireless.com/> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV _ The contents of this email message and any attachments are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information and may be legally protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message or their agent, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply email and then delete this message and any attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, copying, or storage of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 4:16 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ?? Mikrotik doesn't lock their devices in any way, so an optic coded to any brand should work just as well as any other. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> From: "Andreas Wiatowski" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:03:49 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ??<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> Is there a particular SKU that is Mikrotik compatible at FS.com??<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> Cheers,<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> Silo Wireless Inc.<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> 1-866-727-4238 x-600<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> http://www.silowireless.com<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> _<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> The contents of this email message and any attachments are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information and may be legally protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message or their agent, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply email and then delete this message and any attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, copying, or storage of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback
We’ve used them in the past. They are as capable as they are expensive. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback Good bunch of guys who seem to know their stuff. The have a partner arrangement with a DC in Denver they hooked us up with. It's been good for us. On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Paul McCall mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote: I only talked with the sales guy, who obviously was an engineer himself. Their seems to be a ton of knowledge there Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:43 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback We haven't used them yet but the introduction call with a sales guy then nearly an hour long call with an engineer left me feeling warm and fuzzy. We'll likely use them for some large projects coming up. They seem to know what's going on and probably know mikrotik and test it more than most consultants do. Not sure why you're having trouble sterling. They are attentive to me. On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 6:28 PM Paul McCall mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote: Hmmm… they claim 35 consultants on staff… you have had problems Sterling? Can you tell me more? Offlist, if need be From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:38 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback Other than I can never get them to contact me? Nope. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 2:12 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback Anybody have good or bad experience with these folks in the area of Mikrotik consulting? Paul McCall, President PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com> www.floridabroadband.com<http://www.floridabroadband.com> -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi [http://www.snoitulosten.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/facebook-small.jpg]<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
Re: [AFMUG] All WISPAmerica 2017 Interviews
Thanks for doing this, Mike! We only have enough wiggle room in our schedule to come out once a year in Vegas so these videos do well to keep people like me in the loop. ☺ Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 7:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] All WISPAmerica 2017 Interviews We think this is all of our 2017 interviews. If we interviewed you and you're not in this playlist, let us know. Hopefully it was just missed and not lost. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL56ppmTc2o705Up2oy5AGDISo2J0Ap1dN - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed
Hear hear! I’ve been rocking MSSE since 2010 and never looked back. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed The only time I ever got a virus is when some other jerk used my computer, so having AV at all is just so other people don't get uppity with me about not having it. What I like about Defender (and MSSE before it) is that it works quietly in the background and doesn't pester me. If it doesn't work well, at least it's not being noisy about it. -- Original Message -- From: "Mike Hammett" mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 3/19/2017 10:08:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed Defender is the best AV system out there. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:30:56 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed The pathetic way Windows Defender works, I doubt it takes a lot of bandwidth. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:13 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed It's definitely better than it was for awhile, but we've had a couple customers complaining that "their connection never works" in the last couple weeks, and when I checked it was the same old thing with a couple dozen TCP connections to 13.x.x.x IP addresses completely killing the connection. At least one of them said there was an update going, but it could very well be something like Windows Defender. On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: I think they changed something. Windows 10 updates used to cripple my home connection, but lately I haven't noticed them. I have recently had an incident where some Windows system process is downloading something from a Microsoft IP address and that download crippled me. Settings -> Updates & Security didn't indicate any update was downloading. I think I eventually determined it to be the Windows Defender that was doing the downloading, but I don't remember how I concluded that. -- Original Message -- From: "Nate Burke" mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> To: "Animal Farm" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Sent: 3/16/2017 10:20:30 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed So it seems like when a customer wants to update a windows 10 machine, it will gladly and readily take all available bandwidth (and more). I'm updating 2 brand new windows 10 machines in the NOC, plugged into gigabit Ethernet, and they're downloading the windows updates at <2mb/s. I would have expected them to just fly.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Tamales in Memphis:
That’s typical fare for Tennessee. They drown everything in grease or queso, or a combination of both. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 4:29 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tamales in Memphis: memphis "tamales". On Mar 14, 2017 3:38 PM, "Jaime Solorza" mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: What is that? On Mar 14, 2017 2:26 PM, "Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: Finally got the photo to send. They were not terrible, just not what I would expect from a restaurant.
Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk
El pollo loco. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:59 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk Cameronus perfectus On Mar 15, 2017 12:43 PM, "Cameron Crum" mailto:cc...@wispmon.com>> wrote: Per aspera ad astra, carpe dium, etcetera, etcetera! On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: I am tired of autocorrect...Latin does not follow same rules but I will check it out...If I mistyped, then it's mea culpa On Mar 15, 2017 12:31 PM, "Robert Andrews" mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote: I was checking your spelling... i before e except after c... On 03/15/2017 11:21 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Ides of Marchdate Ceasar stabbed and other bad stuff... Underlying message... Don't let this become an issue or problem Make it a decision all can be happy with and help grow WISP industryI have no dog in fight... Except for few support calls from WISPs, I am 90% SCADA dude...And non Lenten period, provacteur On Mar 15, 2017 12:12 PM, "Robert Andrews" mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>>> wrote: Idus Martiae? ??? On 03/15/2017 11:04 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Idus Martaie On Mar 15, 2017 12:02 PM, "Jaime Solorza" mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>>> wrote: Aha, something is afoot, Watson On Mar 15, 2017 11:45 AM, "Robert Andrews" mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>>>> wrote: Hi Rory, I don't think so.. You shared or forwarded a post to AFMUG from the WISPA group and the AFMUG _list_ forwarded it to me, I believe, as I got other posts in the same thread to AFMUG and all of them had the AFMUG stripped out of the reply FROM AFMUG! On 03/15/2017 10:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: Robert, this was my error. Please accept my apologies. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>>>] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:15 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> <mailto:af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] FW: FW: This is trending on Facebook right now in WISP Talk Two things... FIRST why is this coming across from WISPA to AFMUG and not replyable to AFMUG. That's a Serious problem. I don't want my responses to AFMUG going to WISPA list...ALARM ALARM ALARM! Second this is the issue that the Reno Air Races is dealing with. If they do live streams of the air races they worry it decreases attendance which is where the money is.The actual reality is that live TV sports has proven over and over again that TV presentation actually increases the desire to attend events. Events without live presentation or even delayed presentation show decreased attendance because of lack of awareness of the value of attendance. Arguments against have been disproved so many times in the sports world that it's a sure way to get fired as a marketing VP if you try it.
Re: [AFMUG] 450
ETA? Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 450 R15 40 MHz channels in 3 and 5 GHz. Medusa will have narrower channels. 5,10,15 MHz Demo mode. Cripple ware non multi user mimo. Still has beamforming and sensitivity. Later upgrade for higher capacity in the downlink with a key. Full feature cost is the same as buying it fully featured initially. There is a demo time that lets you drive it fully featured for a limited time. New case for the 450. Adaptive CIR 4 levels of QOS 256 bit AES True Gig throughput Uplink mu-mimo Additional FEC on 900 4.9 to 5.9 wideband SM
Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Reviews
If you only watch one episode of Black Mirror, watch “White Bear” (Season 2, Ep. 2). Good grief that’s good television. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 4:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Reviews Check out Black Mirror. Each episode is very different, with a different cast. On Mar 12, 2017 2:54 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote: Unfortunately that seems to be the norm for movies on Netflix if I didn't already see it in the theater it's not worth watching Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> To: mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Reviews Date: Sun, Mar 12, 2017 2:41 PM Get Out Exactly what I was expecting. I enjoyed it. Horror flick with a bit of a comedy element. Make sure you watch the trailer before you spend your money. Everyone in my group liked it but some would not. Legion My 21 year old daughter saw it and loved it. Have not seen it yet. Operator On Netflix. I would say a big waste of time. Mildly entertaining during the first half due to the technology aspect.
Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa
Having just returned from a week in Port-Au-Prince, 15mbps is at least one order of magnitude faster than typical speeds out there. The church we were at saw 3mbps when it was online, which was about 60% of the time, and that was FTTH if you can believe it. Outages are expected, they happen multiple times each day and last anywhere from 5 minutes to 5 hours. We gave wireless solutions some thought and for a country where the average income is less than $30/month, even bottom-of-the-barrel hardware is too expensive to deploy, let alone premium stuff like Cambium. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa I will know more after my meeting in a couple weeks in Miami. I am currently under the impression that it is giving the largest number of people a decent level of service. I don’t know what they consider decent. To me anything over 15 Mbps is gravy. From: Gino Villarini Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:41 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i medusa Whats the end game? Top throughput on 1 customer or top throughput on max clients? From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 2:22 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: [AFMUG] 450i medusa I am still working on a system for Haiti. Will be visiting with them later in the month. I believe the 450 medusa system is the best recommendation as to number of higher bandwidth customers per AP. But I have never operated one. And I know there are other vendors attempting to take prize for highest speeds and throughput on a PMP system. Is there a better system? How heavy can you load this system? Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:image001.png@01D29BF6.08937FB0]
Re: [AFMUG] Donations
Or if one feels so compelled to post something politically charged, it must be allegorical and use nomenclature relevant to our industry. Ex: If Mimosa truly wanted to convince Ubiquiti supporters that they're being heard, they should prioritize TCP ACK. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 3:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations Sounds good! Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Mar 3, 2017, at 5:49 PM, wrote: > > That and shunning political junk. The more I think about it the more I am > liking this list with everything but politics. We all have wasted too much > of our time on that. We can still have all the other fun stuff. Food, > movies, jokes, M-TOW use of the day photos... > > -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley > Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 1:03 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Donations > > It may actually be good for some peoples blood pressure. > > Mathew Howard wrote: >> Agreed. It's not going to kill any of us if the list is down for a few hours. >> >> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Josh Luthman > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: >> >>Reduce it. In the rare event there are issues, it's not a >>critical service. >> >> >>Josh Luthman >>Office: 937-552-2340 >>Direct: 937-552-2343 >>1100 Wayne St >>Suite 1337 >>Troy, OH 45373 >> >>On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Paul McCall ><mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote: >> >>We received $ 570 in donations so far. Again, thank you. >> >>Its $ 150 a month (round numbers) plus the $ 99 support plan, >>which I might drop and go to pay per incident but its low >>priority support only for that. >> >>Paul >> >>*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >><mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway >>*Sent:* Friday, March 3, 2017 11:31 AM >>*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Donations >> >>Paul, did you get enough to cover the year or do you need more? >> >>Rory >> >>*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall >>*Sent:* Friday, March 3, 2017 9:02 AM >>*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>*Subject:* [AFMUG] Donations >> >>For those of you that sent a donation via Paypal to help >>offset a portion of the Amazon hosting costs, thank you for >>the kind gesture. >> >>Paul >> >>Paul McCall, President >> >>PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. >> >>658 Old Dixie Highway >> >>Vero Beach, FL 32962 >> >>772-564-6800 >> >>pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> >> >>www.pdmnet.com <http://www.pdmnet.com> >> >>www.floridabroadband.com <http://www.floridabroadband.com> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature> >> Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/14051 - Release Date: 03/03/17 >
Re: [AFMUG] OT - Chia Trump?
The same marketers made bank off of conservatives for the last eight years with all those “Nobama” and “Obummer” bumper stickers. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 4:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Chia Trump? There is so much money being made off liberals hatred for trump right now. You can put anything out there with a negative tone toward trump for sale, they'll gobble it up. Maga toilet paper is particularly popular. Depending on your customer base, if it's predominately liberal, you could double your price on a fuck trump package, exactly the same as it is now, just with the words fuck trump and a disclaimer that it's not for trump supporters. Granted you'd have to only cover the geographically tiny pockets of liberal voters On Feb 27, 2017 5:36 PM, "Nate Burke" mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote: I heard radio ads for them around the election.� Cha Cha Cha Chia! On 2/27/2017 5:19 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Are these for real, or more fake news?� I haven�t seen them in stores. https://www.amazon.com/Chia-Freedom-Choice-Donald-Trump/dp/B01F9P70YE �
Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
I won’t be surprised if I hear that whoever posted the video figured out how to game the AP somehow and that shenanigans are afoot. But the fact that this is happening at all means there is a vulnerability out there to which everyone using AP is exposed. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 11:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA I'd imagine the drunkest of drunks would drive better than that. I wonder if it's defective hardware somehow? The other videos are nearly opposite that experience - some mistakes but mostly good. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Chris Wright mailto:ch...@velociter.net>> wrote: The Tesla/AutoPilot fanboy in me hopes this is fake, but I’m fairly certain it’s not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYav3_7miIc Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:34 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA On Feb 27, 2017 10:50 AM, "Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: Would someone please make up some bad fake news about Tesla. http://www.streetinsider.com/images/ckuploads/img/2017/02/27/Capture.JPG
Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
The Tesla/AutoPilot fanboy in me hopes this is fake, but I’m fairly certain it’s not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYav3_7miIc Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:34 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA On Feb 27, 2017 10:50 AM, "Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: Would someone please make up some bad fake news about Tesla. http://www.streetinsider.com/images/ckuploads/img/2017/02/27/Capture.JPG
Re: [AFMUG] OT Spacex
4k version with no spam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glEvogjdEVY Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 7:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Spacex http://www.space.com/35773-spacex-1st-stage-landing-captured-by-drone-video.html
Re: [AFMUG] OT: NAS for VMware ?
I’ve been really happy with StarWind. No issues for nearly three years. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 10:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: NAS for VMware ? Old school with hot swap SSD Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Feb 21, 2017, at 12:46 PM, Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote: Looking for a fast, preferably SSD based NAS for a Vmware cluster, Thanks! Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
