Re: [AFMUG] Dc electric load ? Chuck ?
Good ol 3055 transistor found and Astron and Duracomm systems. Use a LM723 and a few other components. The one in question would be the output resistor at 5W .33Ohm I have built several of these to regulate 12-18vs seamlessly to our mikrotik routers to help with smoothing out the raw dc from the duracomm systems at 24v-48v out. Our mikrotiks seem to have fewer issues related to power and reboots. Went the whole last year without a single reboot on the network. On 12/31/2014 04:59 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af wrote: The electronic way is a constant current source shunted to ground or through a resistor bank. One hefty npn power transistor and a few smallish components. Or a jfet with source tied to gate, with a current adjustment resistor in the source lead. Or any of a hundred circuits. For more wattage you can parallel several, each adjusted to take their fraction of the total amps. I seem to be slowly turning into a power electronics engineer over here. On Dec 31, 2014 3:42 PM, chuck--- via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I am thinking a DC-DC converter that will take a wide input and constant voltage output into a nice temperature compensated resistive load. What voltage range do you want? Doh!, that would be a constant power load. You want constant current load. Have to continue thinking... *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2014 3:39 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dc electric load ? Chuck ? I know how to do it really cheap and easy under 2 amps. Have to think on this a bit. I have used hot water heating elements and coils of wire (in a bucket of water) for high wattage resistors but obviously not constant current. *From:* TJ Trout via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2014 12:11 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Dc electric load ? Chuck ? Anyone know of a inexpensive do it yourself way to make a dc constant current electric load for testing power supplies, lithium batteries , etc ? Looking for something maybe 2kw+ and the cheapest premade thing I can find is $3500. Maybe I'll just use a carbon pile load but that will be much less accurate.
Re: [AFMUG] SLAs\Escalation
I have read thru all of our upstreams over the years and I picked 2 that seemed to fit our fancy. It was windstream and ATT ACC. Windstream had a nice formula for calculating how much credit or refund for allotted down time would be. ATT had good explanations of response times and on site repair times. On 01/01/2015 07:49 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: What sort of SLAs do you have with your transport and transit providers? If you have SLAs with any of your customers, how did you come about them? Could you elaborate on any response\repair provisions? How are you guys handling escalation for critical infrastructure or SLA customers? Right now my phone is on vibrate and I check it when convenient. I can't be looking at my phone every time a sales guy calls or I get tagged in a picture on FaceBook. Checking on a regular basis, though, I do get back to those things. I'd like to find a way to be alerted via the most obnoxious method when critical infrastructure or SLA customers are down. Maybe there's an app I can use to override system volume settings to just be annoying when a certain number calls, text arrives, etc.? Thanks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] Dc electric load ? Chuck ?
WOW! 2Kw not askin much lol On 12/31/2014 01:11 PM, TJ Trout via Af wrote: Anyone know of a inexpensive do it yourself way to make a dc constant current electric load for testing power supplies, lithium batteries , etc ? Looking for something maybe 2kw+ and the cheapest premade thing I can find is $3500. Maybe I'll just use a carbon pile load but that will be much less accurate.
Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?
Not sure but 913 and 915 wont like each other no guard band EEK! still looking for other weirdness On 12/29/2014 09:42 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: we're getting there. (and this is not all me). what's odd about that? - Original Message - *From:* timothy steele via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Cc:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 9:32 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval? 924mhz 1 has a different Becon version are you having sync issues? Also you are using 906 913 tel:906%20913%208915 924 that's seems odd — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Range 0 feet? *From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 9:13 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] h.whats wrong with this ap eval? You divided by color code zero and got a color code 57 somehow. On 12/29/2014 9:00 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: � � anyone?� anyone? :) � � AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0) * Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 9 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 SectorUserCount: 0 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported
Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?
Besides all APs set to CC 0 and the 906 ranges at -67 with a range of 54243feet I dont see anything else LOL On 12/29/2014 09:00 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: anyone? anyone? :) AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0) * Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 9 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 SectorUserCount: 0 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported
Re: [AFMUG] hmmmm.....whats wrong with this ap eval?
Oh yes ... rest of APs all show range of 0 Weird unless they arent really there may need to refresh this one On 12/29/2014 09:00 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: anyone? anyone? :) AP Selection Method used: Optimize for Throughput Current entry index: 0 Session Status: REGISTERED (via Primary Color Code 0) * Index: 0 Frequency: 906.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-13-95 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -67 dBm Beacon Count: 19 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 54243 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 17 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 529 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 9 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 1 Frequency: 913.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-b5-51 Region: United States Jitter: 4 Power Level: -82 dBm Beacon Count: 12 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1139 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 57 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 2 Frequency: 924.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-91-27-05 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -84 dBm Beacon Count: 3 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 3 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 662 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 1 SectorUserCount: 0 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 SM PPPoE: Supported * Index: 3 Frequency: 915.00 MHz ESN: 0a-00-3e-90-23-93 Region: United States Jitter: 5 Power Level: -83 dBm Beacon Count: 11 BRcvW: 1 FECEn: 0 Type: Multipoint Avail: 1 Age: 0 Lockout: 0 RegFail 0 Range: 0 feet MaxRange: 25 miles TxBER: 1 EBcast: 0 Session Count: 0 NoLUIDS: 0 OutOfRange: 0 AuthFail: 0 EncryptFail: 0 Rescan Req: 0 SMLimitReached: 0 NoVC's: 0 VCRsvFail: 0 VCActFail: 0 FrameNumber: 1973 SectorID: 0 Color Code: 0 BeaconVersion: 0 SectorUserCount: 7 NumULHalfSlots: 11 NumDLHalfSlots: 33 NumULContSlots: 3 WhiteSched: 0 ICC: 0 Authentication: Disabled SM PPPoE: Supported
Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
YEAAA a threading FIX On 12/30/2014 11:18 AM, Curtis Brotherton via Af wrote: Here comes the Amazon Verification Email � Click the link in the email, and that will verify your email address as valid with Amazon. I will be flipping the switch tomorrow that restores the headers to display the actual person and email address of the sender (which also fixes the threading) J === Curtis Brotherton PDMNet (772) 564-6800 *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Well�� As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it. There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers. That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list J In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the �Amazon verified email� method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email. This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend �stuff� just like we want it to.) The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn�t pull the trigger on the switchover. Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. Here�s what will happen�. All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address. The verification emails are good for 24 hours only. The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can�t change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc. Probably on Friday, we will turn on �normal headers�. If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. We will monitor the changes closely and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. *To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly. It�s important. Follow the instructions please.* Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor rated short 6' jumper cat5e?
Get any size type cable or length @ Besttronics.com. They even do Pre-Rack kits and Nema enclosures along din rail configs you specify. We have used these guys since 2003 with no issue. On 12/30/2014 12:18 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote: I know it's probably the laziest method ever, but is there an outlet that sells inexpensive outdoor rated cat6 cat5e jumper cables? Like around six feet?
Re: [AFMUG] OT There is no hell
Im not sure what to say about this :) On 12/29/2014 03:58 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: 1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose. 2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over. So which is it? If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, 'It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,' and take into account the fact that I slept with her the next night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore extinct...leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why Teresa kept shouting 'Oh my God.' (an oldie but goodie, I wish I could take credit)
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP with Force 110 - what am I doing wrong?
I could see where Farmland and some tree for 5.7Ghz could present a very real world issue. 900Mhz would be great for that or possibly 2.4Ghz On 12/23/2014 03:49 PM, Alan West via Af wrote: Hello all. I am playing with a EPMP system to try to offload some customers over to it from my legacy 100 series network. I have a single 120 sector running 5.7 at about 180ft. Software is 2.3.3. Running on 20mhz channel. I have four EPMP Force 110s I am evaluating. I have one of them working at a customers home at 5.7 miles. Not perfect, but working. I cannot get a signal at all at another home very close to the other, at 5.9 miles. This is going over open farmland, however, it is not line of site (neither is the one above). There are a couple of small tree lines in the path. They are not very wide at all, perhaps only one or two trees deep. Each is along a creek. Is anyone else having issues with these? Maybe I have something configured wrong.
Re: [AFMUG] MT reboot
Yep, When you get time review the bugs in 5.26.. I remember an issue with a Rb433 do the very similar with a DVR system and If I remember it had something to do with the amount UDP connections or traffic over a single port. remove the DVR and check it after 4 or 5 hours to see if it reboots. If it does not, I would upgrade to 6.23 if possible. On 12/18/2014 04:11 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote: Hi, We are having a strange issue with a Mikrotik x86 based router (v5.26 OS). We have already replaced the entire hardware with brand new (including power supply). The issue is the MT box will just randomly reboot with no error messages or warning, with uptimes ranging from 30 minutes to 2 hours. The entire problem started when we purchased a Zmodo NVR (it's a security camera DVR system that uses PoE cameras, running Linux) and plugged it into the Cisco switch that then connects to the MT. This is a very basic setup. Internet connection on ether1, inside NAT'd connections on ether2. Anyone ever seen anything like this? Any ideas? Torch doesn't show anything strange. Travis
Re: [AFMUG] 5.8GHZ Canopy 450 Omni
CRAP is my point of view on those On 12/16/2014 01:01 PM, Matt via Af wrote: Anyone running a 5.8GHZ 450 AP on an Omni antenna? What kind of range are you getting?
Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Need to work with a good Motorola 2 Way dealer. STAT !
Paul, We are also motorola and some other brands we also work with as a dealer and service support. Let me know what you need we can help or point you to a local dealer near you. Dave On 12/17/2014 02:14 PM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: Need to work with a good Motorola 2 Way dealer. STAT ! Need some intelligence and need to buy some stuff Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
I used to love the shift action on my 1992 Prelude SI model with all wheel steer. I could corner at 90 and power slide a bit :) On 12/16/2014 11:12 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Not at all. The up/down on the stick shift for manu-matic is just weird and awful. When you're using paddles it's more F1 like. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I've never driven a real paddle shift, but I did have a car with a manually shiftable automatic, which I'd guess is a somewhat similar experience... definitely not at all the same as a stick shift, but it does give you somewhat more of an involved feel than automatic. The lack of a clutch definitely would make a huge difference. *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Josh Luthman via Af [af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:01 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff It's not the same thing AT ALL. It's a third gear box option. My car has automatic and paddle shift. It is not the same as driving the 6MT of the identical car at all. Remember there is no clutch and it is generally sequential, which is probably where that different feel of driving comes in. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: For manual lovers that have used flappy-paddle gear boxes, how do they compare in the involvement with the driving experience? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:54:16 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff All of my vehicles except my most recent car (and the work van) have been manual, I miss that quite a bit. On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: My wife and I love stick shifts. Probably an attitude that is restricted to people that love the driving thing. Stick shift makes you more involved. And like you say, it also is a crude form of theft control. Becoming more effective every day. I'm surprised by the number of people that don't know how to drive a stick any more. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/16/2014 8:16 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote: On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car because they can't figure out how to operate it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Tools
Tushar, we bought the Wireless manager just to display our map of infrastructure on a 50 screen in the lobby. Cool! Once I started getting the keys to support most of our infrastructure I began to investigate more in depth of what all we could do more with it. It allows me to make global changes on the fly and create complex templates for any of our PTP links and APs. This makes for a good day when provisioning a replacement radio when one gets hit by lightning. Other than making network wide changes like modifying protocol filtering or nat templates its ok. I believe but not sure it has the ability to check for service availability at first glance from a subscriber. On 12/12/2014 04:16 PM, Tushar Patel via Af wrote: If history is any guide, (BAM, Prizm ) and not continue to support. After poring close to $30k in prizm, cambium wanted us to buy new license for all AP's and backhal again for wireless manager. I could not believe it. You are better off not wasting your time and money into their management platform. We won wireless manager in something and still did not install it. When we did install it, we were not impressed. Don't waste your time and money. Tushar On Dec 12, 2014, at 2:33 PM, SmarterBroadband via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I assume Wireless manager is still a pay for product? Anyone using Wireless Advisor? Is it worth installing? Thanks Adam
Re: [AFMUG] PTP500 does 2mb/s
Scott, Have a look at the slave side spectrum manager and see if there is some noise cropping up. If not then you may have some water in a pigtail or defective. Also, may want to do a site walk to see if the antennas may have moved due to weather or something in the path since it was installed. More often then not the tale tale signature if a bad pig tail is the vector error is all over the place. These things usually dont have grey area when it comes to detailed informational tags like Limited by WIRELESS conditions Start with spectrum manager and see what it says then look at Diag plotter for unusual patterns in vector corrections. On 12/12/2014 03:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen via Af wrote: I�m diagnosing a slow throughput PTP500 link remotely. This link�s real-world capacity is only about 2mb/s. Attached is screenshots of the status page. Anything stick out as weird or wrong? It was on 15mb/s channels, I tried 10mb/s � there�s plenty of clean spectrum. It�s not making sense to me that this is only able to move 2mb/s. Thanks, Scott
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Tools
Cnut takes care of that :) On 12/12/2014 04:18 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af wrote: Out of curiosity, what do you use to manage your software upgrades? Everything seems easy enough to manage with a 3rd party management platform. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: If history is any guide, (BAM, Prizm ) and not continue to support. After poring close to $30k in prizm, cambium wanted us to buy new license for all AP's and backhal again for wireless manager. I could not believe it. You are better off not wasting your time and money into their management platform. We won wireless manager in something and still did not install it. When we did install it, we were not impressed. Don't waste your time and money. Tushar On Dec 12, 2014, at 2:33 PM, SmarterBroadband via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I assume Wireless manager is still a pay for product? Anyone using Wireless Advisor? Is it worth installing? Thanks Adam
Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 450
Craig, What are you using for antennas both at the Tower and the sub level? When using the dish for the sub our techs find if you tilt it slightly on its Horz axis it does much better with SNR if you are using the cambium 90 or 60 degree sectors on the tower. We are getting amazing results here. We have have most of our 900 and 2.4 customers moved over to 3.65. On 12/02/2014 09:08 AM, Craig House via Af wrote: Had a discussion with one of my coworkers this morning regarding the 450 cambium 3.65 radios We have tried it in a couple of locations with little success he believes that the 3.65 is not a dual slant radio but rather just dual polarity. Can someone tell me who is right? Sent from my iPhone
Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking
Mike, Do you use spamdyke on your mail servers? We have used it for years in combo with our spamd on qmail toaster plus machines Very affective and easy to manage list I do something similar with honey pot but only for analysis. I take the ips that are in the Denied log of our DNS servers and add them to a 30day timed list on our edges to blackhole. This alone has stopped most of the BS spam and malware issues we see. We started this about a year ago and the network has been very clean and quiet in fact I hardly ever see any DNS query related problems. The brute force attacks on ports 20-25 are shut down with a simple rule that add the offending IP to a dropall list for 24hrs. In order to access the internals of our net via those ports from outside you have to be on our secure VPN and use port knock sequence. On 12/02/2014 10:34 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: I haven't decided to integrate my idea with SPAM prevention, but I've been thinking about it. ;-) I'll get the other stuff working first. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:24:59 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking I've had a similar discussion with customers who manually block the email address of everyone who sends them spam. So they have a blacklist of thousands of random fictitious email addresses that sound like the real names of Batman villains. They feel good blocking the spammers, so I've given up trying to talk them out of it. -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 9:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking I can't force the abuse contact to do anything. If you don't try something, you're just as complicit. Fail2Ban with custom rules and actions is what I'm working on. Just because it is a dynamic pool doesn't mean people don't perpetually have the same IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 09:27:58 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking Just when you put all that effort into it, and talk about throwing violators into a BGP blackhole, and forcing abuse contacts to take action, it seemed inconsistent with the reality. Plus the fact that a lot of those will be dynamic pool addresses. If you’re talking about something like Fail2ban and blocking SSH for 60 minutes, that makes sense. SSH and RDP dictionary attacks are a big problem, as are DNS amplification attacks. But rarely does the source IP actually identify who is behind the attack, just one of millions of bots. It seems a futile exercise to block them one IP address at a time. From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 9:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking Yes and I stated so in that e-mail. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 8:46:23 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking You do understand most of those IPs will be infected computers with a bot doing the scanning, not a bad guy sitting at his own computer, right? As far as customers, we tell them they need to at a minimum have Microsoft Security Essentials or the free version of a commercial AV. If they ask for a recommendation of a commercial AV product, we tell them we use ESET. Nothing will protect someone who engages in risky online activity or clicks before thinking. Those people need a good local computer shop (not Geek Squad) to rescue their computer and data and to install security software. And amazingly, I still need to tell people that securing their WiFi is not optional, and 1234 is not an acceptable email password. From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 8:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking No bursting anywhere for anything. Currently I firewall all IPs that touch my honey pot IPs or attempt SSH at my edge. No need to have any of them on my network. I'm implementing a method to bring all servers, routers, switches, etc. back to a central syslog where I run my analysis there. That will then capture the more distributed scansattacks. Other than a whitelist, violators will be thrown into a BGP blackhole. It'll also fire off an e-mail to the RIR registered abuse contact. If you're doing any sort of trickery or trickeration (intentional via script kiddieworse or unintentional via malware), I don't want simple scans escalating into something more complex and possibly more damaging. You do the simple
Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 450
If it were me, this is what Id do. 1. Ensure we have good channel plan 5,10 or 20 on entire net 2. Ensure we have good GPS working on each AP on entire net 3. Ensure configs in radio tab are the same across the net(ie % of allocation,control slots and distance) this will affect proper timing 4. Do spectrum scan see whats out there. 5. Probably something I should do before any of the above. Ensure proper alignment and plum on the AP at the tower. 6. This is a given Know your sector of coverage. This is extra PINE or FURN trees absorb like a sponge most signals On 12/02/2014 09:18 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: When you say you have had little success, what were you expecting it to do, that it didn't? Regarding antenna, my recollection is that it's dual slant, and will automatically correct for swapped polarizations (e.g. if you use a reflector), but not for using dual slant at one end and V/H at the other (like ePMP can do because that magic is baked into the 802.11 chip). I've had good luck with it, kind of midway between 2.4 and 5 GHz but with clean spectrum (especially if you use the upper 25 MHz where Ubiquiti doesn't play), somewhat different EIRP rules, and tough to use 10 MHz channels. Are you using sectors, or an omni at the AP? -Original Message- From: Craig House via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 9:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 3.65 450 Had a discussion with one of my coworkers this morning regarding the 450 cambium 3.65 radios We have tried it in a couple of locations with little success he believes that the 3.65 is not a dual slant radio but rather just dual polarity. Can someone tell me who is right? Sent from my iPhone
Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking
Spamdyke sits on the interface of the host machine and watches those tcp connections for mail. There are several list you can turn on off on the fly without disrupting service. I use a combo of RBL and RHbls with ip black and grey listing alongside whitelists. I started using it and never looked back. I believe they now have it ported for microsoft apps as well. At least they talked about it a while back. On 12/04/2014 08:15 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: *nods* I know that port knocking, VPNs, etc. are more secure for entry (most things I have aren't on public IPs, so VPns are the way in. But I'm looking to block them from everything. You try something you're not supposed to, get off my lawn. I haven't heard of SPAMdyke before. I'll check it out. The more integrated I can have SPAM systems with my existing Zimbra installation, the better. I'm not a fan of additional front-ends and outside services. A machine that's trying to get my web server for a Linksys ShellShock vulnerability likely is churning out SPAM or going to try to participate in DNS amplification or whatever. Stop everything. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *David via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, December 4, 2014 8:04:30 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking Mike, Do you use spamdyke on your mail servers? We have used it for years in combo with our spamd on qmail toaster plus machines Very affective and easy to manage list I do something similar with honey pot but only for analysis. I take the ips that are in the Denied log of our DNS servers and add them to a 30day timed list on our edges to blackhole. This alone has stopped most of the BS spam and malware issues we see. We started this about a year ago and the network has been very clean and quiet in fact I hardly ever see any DNS query related problems. The brute force attacks on ports 20-25 are shut down with a simple rule that add the offending IP to a dropall list for 24hrs. In order to access the internals of our net via those ports from outside you have to be on our secure VPN and use port knock sequence. On 12/02/2014 10:34 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: I haven't decided to integrate my idea with SPAM prevention, but I've been thinking about it. ;-) I'll get the other stuff working first. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:24:59 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking I've had a similar discussion with customers who manually block the email address of everyone who sends them spam. So they have a blacklist of thousands of random fictitious email addresses that sound like the real names of Batman villains. They feel good blocking the spammers, so I've given up trying to talk them out of it. -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 9:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking I can't force the abuse contact to do anything. If you don't try something, you're just as complicit. Fail2Ban with custom rules and actions is what I'm working on. Just because it is a dynamic pool doesn't mean people don't perpetually have the same IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 09:27:58 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking Just when you put all that effort into it, and talk about throwing violators into a BGP blackhole, and forcing abuse contacts to take action, it seemed inconsistent with the reality. Plus the fact that a lot of those will be dynamic pool addresses. If you’re talking about something like Fail2ban and blocking SSH for 60 minutes, that makes sense. SSH and RDP dictionary attacks are a big problem, as are DNS amplification attacks. But rarely does the source IP actually identify who is behind the attack, just one of millions of bots. It seems a futile exercise to block them one IP address at a time. From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 9:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1. Netflix 2. Hacking Yes and I stated so in that e-mail. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Your friends at Vivint
We have a similar competitor :) On 12/01/2014 01:18 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: From a fellow WISP in town... By the way, these guys are super slimy... they have gone to my customer's and told them that they need to check the equipment and then they climbed on the roof even after my customer told them, I don't use Vivint. The neighbor saw them and was watching their every move, so they finally retreated off the roof A clients' house!!! lucky they didn't get shot or police called... what balls! . Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's
PLUS 1 for Nagios and there are some apps coming about for it on the android. We have a company that is working on an app for us and the customers as you mentioned to do just that. regardless of the APP you still need a good monitoring server running to interface with the APP. There are some Free options out there and there are some great ones too. On 11/20/2014 04:21 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: Emails from Cacti don't count - cacti is not an up/down monitoring system, it's a charting system... Any threshold alerting plugins that might be available are just a bonus. Use something like OpenNMS or Nagios. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: What I really want is an integrated system that isn't stuck in the 90's. I want the customer to have an app on their phone that tells them when their network is having issues and why. I want it to also remind them to pay their bill and provide a lazy/easy way to do that. I want that same system to have an engineer app that tells us when nodes fail and why. So if a node goes down and it's important, it should show up on my phone and I can take action. One of those actions would be to message to outage impacted customers the ETA to fix etc. Emails from Cacti don't count.
Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's
Yeah we put a little thought into ours on that behalf. The customer will have to go to the trouble of signing up for these alerts and it will only show alerts associated with their tower or CPE. Even any scheduled work being done on that site. Alerts for outages on their connection only is all that will be displayed. We are not doing this for anyone on our FSK network only the 450 net. We already have the Portal for billing. On 11/20/2014 11:47 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: *An app for my phone? Yuck *Something that pushes to cutomers letting them know we're having issues? Yuck *Something that let's the customer verify their particular service is good/not? That'd be great! *Web portal for billing, easy peasy Why a node fails probably won't be detectable by a machine - in some cases it's difficult for a person to narrow it down (radio, connectors, cables, ethernet, surge, etc) but I'd like to see ideas on this of course. I use/suggest an outgoing message. IF the customer is having issues and they do call us, they hear we're having issues and hang up. This means that we're not telling 100 people there are issues when 25 are effecting ending up with 75 calls next month saying we owe them a credit when they had nothing to do with an outage. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: What I really want is an integrated system that isn't stuck in the 90's. I want the customer to have an app on their phone that tells them when their network is having issues and why. I want it to also remind them to pay their bill and provide a lazy/easy way to do that. I want that same system to have an engineer app that tells us when nodes fail and why. So if a node goes down and it's important, it should show up on my phone and I can take action. One of those actions would be to message to outage impacted customers the ETA to fix etc. Emails from Cacti don't count.
Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's
We have done this also and now we have a couple of options if the customer is a big Gadget fan which we are finding true in some cases so we have a 5 and 10 dollar plan for managed services. The Free one is only the 951-2n and the others are 2Hn integrated vs connectorized antennas. Now that cambium will have the c3voip-200 series soon we will only offer it as a $10 or they can buy outright with no maint. I believe there are 2 models one with voip and other not. On 11/21/2014 11:12 AM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote: Hi, This is why we just included a free WiFi router with all of our installations. It wasn't a separate item on their bill, it was just part of our service. Then we had control of the router, and could actually test clear to the router from our NOC. The customers liked it because they didn't have to worry about the router, and when it failed we just replaced it, no charge. Again... customer service is what wins the day. :) Travis On 11/21/2014 9:00 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: I really question if customers want a device to help them troubleshoot. More like if we (a bunch of network admins) were the customer, that’s what we’d want. It’s like the guys on Big Bang Theory trying to imagine what a regular person would want. The hurdle seems to be getting them to pay someone to fix problems in their internal network. If you can monetize this by selling an onsite support plan, or by dispatching from a separate side of your business that charges for service calls, that is good, as long as you can say this is not an Internet service problem, it is a customer network problem. Otherwise, refer them to a local computer shop that does house calls. What amazes me is the reluctance to pay us $5/mo for a managed Mikrotik router that comes with free replacement, phone support and onsite support. All of a sudden it’s not so interesting to have us solve the problem for them. Yet they will go to Best Buy and let the kid talk them into a $200 Linksys AC router as the solution to all their problems. I guess that points back to me being a poor salesman compared to the kid at Best Buy. Probably because I know the managed router is a good deal for the customer, so if they don’t want it, I’m only going to push it so hard. While Best Buy makes tons more money on a $200 router than they do on a $50 router and doesn’t give a rat’s ass what’s good for the customer, so they sell the hell out of the expensive router. And people like going to stores and buying cool gadgets. Maybe I need to rub some “new car smell” on the Mikrotik routers or something. So I guess if your proposed gizmo has a “new car smell” or “latest iPhone” aura to it, people might buy it. Just make sure that red light doesn’t have false detects, or it will just make people complain their Internet is down because the red light is on. *From:* David via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2014 9:27 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's Yeah we put a little thought into ours on that behalf. The customer will have to go to the trouble of signing up for these alerts and it will only show alerts associated with their tower or CPE. Even any scheduled work being done on that site. Alerts for outages on their connection only is all that will be displayed. We are not doing this for anyone on our FSK network only the 450 net. We already have the Portal for billing. On 11/20/2014 11:47 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: *An app for my phone? Yuck *Something that pushes to cutomers letting them know we're having issues? Yuck *Something that let's the customer verify their particular service is good/not? That'd be great! *Web portal for billing, easy peasy Why a node fails probably won't be detectable by a machine - in some cases it's difficult for a person to narrow it down (radio, connectors, cables, ethernet, surge, etc) but I'd like to see ideas on this of course. I use/suggest an outgoing message. IF the customer is having issues and they do call us, they hear we're having issues and hang up. This means that we're not telling 100 people there are issues when 25 are effecting ending up with 75 calls next month saying we owe them a credit when they had nothing to do with an outage. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: What I really want is an integrated system that isn't stuck in the 90's. I want the customer to have an app on their phone that tells them when their network is having issues and why. I want it to also remind them to pay their bill and provide a lazy/easy way to do that. I want that same system to have an engineer app that tells us when nodes fail and why. So if a node goes down and it's important, it should show
Re: [AFMUG] Battery story
+1 been using for 11yrs and replaced some sets only 4yrs ago On 11/19/2014 04:35 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: I forgot I had a pair of Deka 37AH AGM batts sitting at a site. Not connected to a charger. For a year and a half. In a not so temperature controlled environment. Brought them back to the office yesterday. Still had 12.3 volts on both. AGMs sure are reliable.
Re: [AFMUG] Upgrade PTP Links with ePMP Modules
Nice write up.. On 11/19/2014 11:44 AM, Ray Savich via Af wrote: If you use 2� parabolic dishes from another vendor and are looking to upgrade to synchronized ePMP, Eric Osrelic shares his field experience and results and achieves back-to-back frequency re-use. Check out his results at http://bit.ly/1uwvQn1 and join the discussion. Ray
Re: [AFMUG] AP SSID list
By default that would seem to be the correct assumption if the client is doing association by power limitation or is it by throughput ? It could also mean that 2 of the same matter cannot occupy the same space and the universe will collapse :D On 11/17/2014 08:26 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: If I set four APs there will it go in order as in connect to the first one it sees? Will it switch to a different SSID if it's associated? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] GigE-APC for ePMP?
You do have some awesome lights... On 11/18/2014 02:04 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Even my home made VQ light controller?! You cat burglar you. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 18, 2014 3:00 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Nope, ever single device. Took quite some time... *From:* Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:54 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GigE-APC for ePMP? Every one on the list maybe! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 18, 2014 2:47 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I have tested it with EVERY single device. Every one... -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen via Af Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:50 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE-APC for ePMP? On 11/18/14, 10:47, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Has anyone verified it specifically, though? Well, electrically it's universal. I haven't personally tested it on every single device, but I only use GigEAPC-HV everywhere for everything. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] 13.2 Issue (Removing frequency checkboxes)
+1 They run from me LOL They Know I have work for them On 11/14/2014 09:18 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Instill fear into the techs so that changes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Eric Muehleisen via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: You guys are brave doing mass-upgrades on a Thurs night. My techs would kill me. On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Aaron Schneider via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Please see my previous note on two specific 5.7 SM scan frequencies that were fixed on the SM. That could cause those two to come back unchecked, but they were never possible to use as they were always wrong. We'll look at that as to having the values fixed and keep them checked if they previously were, but the change should not have caused any sm outage. I think that was the only 5.x frequency issue and was reported at the same time as the 2.4 issue. They are not related. Regards, Aaron Original message From: timothy steele via Af Date:11/14/2014 6:29 AM (GMT-06:00) To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Cc: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 13.2 Issue (Removing frequency checkboxes) Ok so sounds like that was just a fluke but why do the 5ghz 450 SM have a bunch of frequencys unchecked after upgrading to 13.2 final? I did not notice that in beta — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:18 AM, Kurt Fankhauser via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I updated some 2.4Ghz 450 stuff overnight (previously on build 22) and did not loose any of the 2.5mhz channelson SM's Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 tel:419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 tel:419-617-0110 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Rajesh Vijayakumar via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: George, Glad to see it upgraded successfully. And thanks for bravely trying it. Ryan, We are continuing our investigation. I will post an update to the list tomorrow morning. Please contact me (rajesh.vijayaku...@cambiumnetworks.com mailto:rajesh.vijayaku...@cambiumnetworks.com) or Cambium support off list. We will get to the root of this as soon as possible. Rajesh Vijayakumar Cambium Networks On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:14 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I just got done with that sector and everything went fine. Checked all of the SM scan lists before (all running 13.1.3) and after they updated to 13.2. They all look like this still: 2.4_scan.png On 11/14/2014 12:30 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: I know I said I was done for the night, but I'm going to update a 2.4 450 sector here shortly. It's on 2460/20MHz, so hopefully nothing bad happens. On 11/14/2014 12:25 AM, Rajesh Vijayakumar via Af wrote: We looked at all the recent changes than went in to 13.2 but did not find anything that would explain this behavior. Also tried to recreate it in the lab on a 2.4 GHz setup, but the SM kept all the checked frequencies after upgrade from 13.1.3 to 13.2. Has anyone else upgraded a 2.4 GHz sector and run into this issue (or did not run into this issue)? Rajesh Vijayakumar Cambium Networks On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Aaron Schneider via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: We are investigating the other issues, but with respect to 5767.5 and 5807.5, those two were affected by a bug fix, in that pre-13.2, 5767.5 was actually enabling 5767.20, due to an obvious typo in the scan list code, and 5807.5 was actually enabling
Re: [AFMUG] New site DC power help
I wouldnt see why not.. Center line is isolated from everything. I would use an Isolation transformer at the bottom though. So if the coax takes a hit it only has the shield to jump off of. Chuck is right about opening up all kinds of options top side. I would grab a dc power supply 29v @ 2 amp and go for it On 11/10/2014 11:08 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: Can you run AC on coax? I always assumed that you would be spanked for that On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Paul Conlin via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Never worked with fat N connectors. Try L-comm's web site for visual match? On November 10, 2014 11:47:41 AM EST, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Any ideas how to go from the fat N connector to a rectifier? =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Paul Conlin via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Neutral is AC’s roughly equivalent to DC’s negative. FWIW I’d run DC up the coax to keep more of the equipment more accessible at the bottom. You have more than one coax so you can run another voltage on another one, if needed. PC Blaze Broadband *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman via Af *Sent:* Monday, November 10, 2014 11:38 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New site DC power help Well I was thinking... AC - battery charger - 24v batteries - coax up the building coax - 24v regulator - PacketFlux What is the neutral bar? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Why DC? Why not just tie the center conductor to a circuit breaker and make sure the shield is tied to the neutral bar. Then you have all kinds of options up there. *From:*Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:*Monday, November 10, 2014 9:20 AM *To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:*[AFMUG] New site DC power help I am getting onto a new site that is a building. The owner has given me free permission to use anything I want that Sprint left. That's the nice building as well as 6 heavy duty 1 thick coax runs from the base to the top of the tower. What I would like to do is run DC on one of these. They have connectors that look twice as big as N connectors. How can I go from this connector to a DC power supply? What about at the top from the coax to a regulator? Am I correct in assuming the center pin would be hot and the outside/threading be neutral? Would 24vdc be OK for this? Or would 48vdc be better? Thanks in advance for any help! I'd like to avoid running 10 feet of wire and soldering if at all possible. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 3.65 Cluster
Something like On 11/07/2014 04:00 PM, Matt via Af wrote: Anyone know if its possible to do a 6 AP cluster of 3.65 AP's with 20Mhz channels doing ABABAB for increased capacity?
Re: [AFMUG] CMM4 Sats tracked issue
I thought the CMM4 has an external GPS. I would either check voltage to GPS or replace pigtail Moving doesnt hurt if the ant does not have a clear Northern view On 11/06/2014 03:57 PM, Timothy D. McNabb via Af wrote: I have a CMM4 running 8 AP�s (3 450 5.4/5.7, 5 FSK @ 5.7) and experiencing an odd issue. Satellites seen stays up, fluctuating between 7-9 sats but the tracking has trouble fluctuating between 5-1. It spends most of its time in 2D fix, will 3D fix when it�s tracking 4 sats and will report bad geometry at 2 sats. I suspect placement on the tower is the issue and it is having trouble maintaining the lock. It�s on the latest firmware (3.0). I�m going to suggest we attempt to relocate the CMM4 to have a clearer view of the sky but wanted to ping you guys for some input. What do you think? Is the CMM4 failing or is this an (n)LOS issue? Timothy McNabb Network Administrator Velociter Wireless, Inc (209)838-1221 x107
Re: [AFMUG] Cacti POLL
Yeah, We currently have one instance that only does Infrastructure and the other doing everything else. I want to eliminate one and have just the one portal. This has been discussed before in the forums and there were some plugins that sorted some host in another tab but thats not what I want to see. I want to log in and just see all infrastructure hosts or subs by simply having a drop down to filter by group. On 11/06/2014 12:56 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Isn't there a way to merge multiple cacti instances from multiple hosts? bp On 11/5/2014 7:21 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote: It has to do with the Hosts page which is a quick snapshot of all things green or red. For ever we have always had a single cacti service running to handle both infrastructure and subs but it has gotten to large to have all that on one site. So, my idea was to have a drop down that would only show a group of defined units like servers, Back hauls, Aps, subs and so forth within the host page or devices page whatever you want to call it. The graph tree for me on sorts the graphs not the hosts. Especially when ur on your mobile and you just want to check to see whats up or down. This could be personal setting that could be set by the user to default to just a single group when they log in. On 11/5/2014 9:47 AM, Ty Featherling via Af wrote: Same here. I don't understand what you are proposing David. My graphs are manually sorted in the graph tree. What does your plugin do? -Ty On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Sort of like a manage plugin that works? We've arranged our graphs to be grouped by POP/AP/Subscriber, but it's done more-or-less manually. When a new subscriber is added, we add them to the appropriate graph tree. This way, someone not in the know can see the organization of the infrastructure. Not clear if this is significantly different by your description. bp On 11/5/2014 5:06 AM, David Milholen via Af wrote: For those of you using cacti.. Out of necessity I am going to be working a plugin that will do Host groups or views for the hosts displayed. For example instead of all hosts in one view you can group them by infrastructure or subscribers and set permissions on who is allowed to view infrastructure and subs or just subs. There are some other plugins that let you add them to a tab and view but I want a drop down like on the host page to display only what I need. Of course you can place a tag in the name of each host and search by this tag. I am just being lazy I guess I want a simple drop down that will give me the groups I want. Since we use nagios to watch majority of infrastructure for alerting I want cacti to only show that infrastructure. I am just taking poll to see how many use or could use something like this. -- --
Re: [AFMUG] The One Time I like Trees
OMG!. Is the Blue the OutIF and the GREEN InIF ? That circuit looks FLAT LINED :) On 11/04/2014 10:00 AM, Nate Burke via Af wrote: UBNT Modulation. This is on a Near LOS Shot. Can you tell when the leaves are on the trees and blocking out other interference?
Re: [AFMUG] The One Time I like Trees
I would keep an eye on it next spring because mother nature is sometimes not so kind :) On 11/04/2014 10:24 AM, Nate Burke via Af wrote: RF Modulation, not actual usage. On 11/4/2014 10:21 AM, David via Af wrote: OMG!. Is the Blue the OutIF and the GREEN InIF ? That circuit looks FLAT LINED :) On 11/04/2014 10:00 AM, Nate Burke via Af wrote: UBNT Modulation.� This is on a Near LOS Shot.� Can you tell when the leaves are on the trees and blocking out other interference?
Re: [AFMUG] Comcast is getting really ticked about complaints
Wait For it ... On 10/10/2014 08:01 AM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: The guy who got fired was on CNN this morning with his attorney. Comcast called Price-Waterhouse and told them they wanted to open an ethics investigation in that he went over the line. They didn�t mention how the investigation went but they fired him. Then Comcast issues an apology that they never wanted him fired. I�m smelling a really big lawsuit here. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 1:28 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Comcast is getting really ticked about complaints Im sure there is some conspiracy there with comcast.. I m pretty sure theyre one of the few cablecos lobbing against WISPS to take away our 5G � Just my 2 cents LOL On 10/08/2014 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) via Af wrote: It will be interesting to see how this goes, but it's unlikely that Conal is blameless. Ken's probably on the right track.� We've had customers act unreasonably. They use DirectWay now... On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: This is Comcast we're talking about here though. They do some pretty outrageous stuff on occasion. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Given that we have all had calls from customers that are complete asses I pretty much have to assume Conal really crossed a line to get that much of a reaction. Mark On 10/8/14, 9:35 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: The original article states that nobody has access to recordings of the phone calls or the contents of the emails.� Maybe Conal was the jerk.� What would someone have to say before you called his employer and told them they employee was being bad?� Something serious I assume.� Maybe Conal made threats or something. The fact is we don't know, and slashdot rallies automatically against the cable company because they're the cable company.� Not that I love my cable companybut the bias is quite clear. Per the original article it doesn't sound like the guy was being a jerk at all.� Comcast was, in fact, the jerk. On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Chris Wright via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: That�s pretty shady, but this part of the editorial really ticked me off, ���� �/Be careful next time when you exercise your first amendment rights�/ /�/ The first amendment protects the rights of the people to speak freely, but does not protect you from the consequences of being a jerk. � Chris Wright Velociter Wireless http://www.velociter.net/ � *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:17 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Comcast is getting really ticked about complaints � Yeah I saw that. PS - f@#$ /. beta ;) Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 10/07/2014 02:51 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: http://beta.slashdot.org/story/208189 � Rory P. Conaway 4226 S. 37th Street Phoenix, Az. 85040 602-426-0542 tel:602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net � � -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net mailto:m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021 tel:419.837.5015%20x%201021
Re: [AFMUG] Check out our TV add
VERY COOL! On 10/10/2014 08:52 AM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: Its in spanish, but I think its great! Hope you like it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCb-sed-O18feature=youtu.be Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] packetflux save me
Sweet... I assume I will still have to make a circuit to convert this to a voltage? On 10/08/2014 04:04 PM, Christopher Tyler via Af wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Non-invasive-Split-Core-Current-Transformer-AC-current-sensor-30A-SCT-013-030-/321424072757?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4ad65e2035 You can get these on Ebay all day long for about $7-$8
Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2 conduit
We make our own chinese finger lock per cable and stagger each one in the pipe while using tape and ziptie to hold heads or body of cable against rope at tie off point. +1 wire lube if you have to go thru corners. HDPFE Conduit is what we use since last year. there are tricks of the trade for getting elbows and Ts to coexist with HDPFE though. Our last tower we did looks much better than the first. We can use the Clips and hangers to properly clip it to a cable tray or leg of a tower. On 10/09/2014 11:52 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote: On 10/9/14, 9:48, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: How would you pull a bundle like that? What do you use to attach the cables together before pulling? Just electrical tape? Any other suggestions? If you must pull that many vs. a switch up top, a pulling sock (one of those Chinese finger trap looking things) and lots of wire lube. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2 conduit
+1 cable comb or setup something to keep them seperated as they come off spools. We use plastic funnels sprayed with teflon screwed to a sawhorse in front of the cable wench. On 10/09/2014 02:05 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af wrote: Get a cable comb and tape them together as they leave it into the conduit. Keeps it nice and tight. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:39 PM, David via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: We make our own chinese finger lock per cable and stagger each one in the pipe while using tape and ziptie to hold heads or body of cable against rope at tie off point. +1 wire lube if you have to go thru corners. HDPFE Conduit is what we use since last year. there are tricks of the trade for getting elbows and Ts to coexist with HDPFE though. Our last tower we did looks much better than the first. We can use the Clips and hangers to properly clip it to a cable tray or leg of a tower. On 10/09/2014 11:52 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote: On 10/9/14, 9:48, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: How would you pull a bundle like that? What do you use to attach the cables together before pulling? Just electrical tape? Any other suggestions? If you must pull that many vs. a switch up top, a pulling sock (one of those Chinese finger trap looking things) and lots of wire lube. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Comcast is getting really ticked about complaints
Im sure there is some conspiracy there with comcast.. I m pretty sure theyre one of the few cablecos lobbing against WISPS to take away our 5G Just my 2 cents LOL On 10/08/2014 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) via Af wrote: It will be interesting to see how this goes, but it's unlikely that Conal is blameless. Ken's probably on the right track. We've had customers act unreasonably. They use DirectWay now... On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: This is Comcast we're talking about here though. They do some pretty outrageous stuff on occasion. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Given that we have all had calls from customers that are complete asses I pretty much have to assume Conal really crossed a line to get that much of a reaction. Mark On 10/8/14, 9:35 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: The original article states that nobody has access to recordings of the phone calls or the contents of the emails. Maybe Conal was the jerk. What would someone have to say before you called his employer and told them they employee was being bad? Something serious I assume. Maybe Conal made threats or something. The fact is we don't know, and slashdot rallies automatically against the cable company because they're the cable company. Not that I love my cable companybut the bias is quite clear. Per the original article it doesn't sound like the guy was being a jerk at all. Comcast was, in fact, the jerk. On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Chris Wright via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That�s pretty shady, but this part of the editorial really ticked me off, �/Be careful next time when you exercise your first amendment rights�/ // The first amendment protects the rights of the people to speak freely, but does not protect you from the consequences of being a jerk. Chris Wright Velociter Wireless http://www.velociter.net/ *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:17 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Comcast is getting really ticked about complaints Yeah I saw that. PS - f@#$ /. beta ;) Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 10/07/2014 02:51 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: http://beta.slashdot.org/story/208189 � Rory P. Conaway 4226 S. 37th Street Phoenix, Az. 85040 602-426-0542 tel:602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net � -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021 tel:419.837.5015%20x%201021
Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity
OMG.. Stop that :) Tree == BAD for anything electronic. The tree rats take of any foreign object on its territory and for get it if you place it on a Pecan tree LOL On 10/05/2014 06:47 PM, timothy steele via Af wrote: A cap that keeps ants/worms on of SM for tree installs would be nice — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 7:45 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: then youre already putting in 5-20 dollars worth of cable, 20-35 dollars in surge protection. 5-15 dollars in mounting hardware in incidental costs aside from the CPE there isnt really much breathing room for residential 29-39 dollar connections. Especially in cases like us who eat the CPE cost. The reality is it would be just one more piece of equipment for customers to plug in incorrectly, or even better, completely bypass. That being said, I want it, and I want it to display the MAC address of the attached device so that when a customer gets a new router to self provision they can look on the display and know what it is, we still have CS staff telling them to look on the sticker on the router.. fucking dipshits. E On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Honestly, a RB2011 fills that niche pretty well. Lock the LCD to display only WAN bandwidth, and disable the touchscreen. Techs can log into the RB2011 with the admin credentials and check on the wireless clients, interface errors, run speed tests (tcp) to the headend of your network, etc. $5/mo for router management a month is what we charge, and the people that have the service love it. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 10/05/2014 01:18 PM, TJ Trout via Af wrote: I would love to find a router that has poe output and all of the diagnostic features you mentioned. It would be nice if the customer could just look at the router to see the status of the connection up down or otherwise. On Oct 5, 2014 2:13 PM, Chris Fabien via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I'd say you are correct. Would love to have the functionality but even at $75 I couldn't justify the cost. On Oct 5, 2014 5:08 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Following up on the previous email about product ideas, I have an idea for a product which at least I think would be really cool, but I also think would likely be a big flop, just because of the apparent cost sensitivity of installs. It seems to me that it would be nice to replace the power injector at customer sites with more of an intelligent device. One that provides functionality like traffic metering, cable diagnostics, customer-location speed tests, and so on. The unit would have jacks for the radio, the customer equipment, and power. It would also have a display which shows real-time usage data for the customer to be able to determine for themselves what their current internet consumption is. There are a lot of natural outgrowths from this such as watchdog reset of the radio itself, automatic problem notification to the WISP, etc. My goal would be to instrument this as much as possible. If you think of this as a 'smart power meter' for internet, with diagnostic tools built in, then you've got the basic idea. This is not intended to replace the customer router/nat device, and will only be a Layer 2 device as far as traffic goes. There will likely be some limited traffic shaping possible based on the underlying ethernet swtich chipset. Unfortunately, these can't be a $20 device. $75 might be doable for higher volumes, but $100 is more in the comfort zone for the volumes I typically move. Of course, this is a CPE device and I'm not even sure how many I'd sell so these prices are guesses at best - but more likely to go down instead of up. Although I suspect most people would love to have one of these at each install, I have a hard time believing that most people would swallow adding even $75 to the cost of each install, let alone the $100 which might be the price I'd have
Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Battery Backup with email notification alert
LOL Ive done that on a couple of really remote sites. On 10/06/2014 04:27 PM, Dennis Burgess via Af wrote: Drop a MT 750 off the non battery side and drop a ip on it, .. monitor that IP, it goes off but not the rest, guess what you are on battery! Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net mailto:den...@linktechs.net � 314-735-0270 � www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway via Af *Sent:* Monday, October 06, 2014 3:47 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cheapest Battery Backup with email notification alert Have some temporary locations that I can�t secure well. Rory Conaway Triad Wireless 4226 S. 37th Street Phoenix, Az. 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net
[AFMUG] PTP820 on scene
Cambium has new 820 and it looks interesting for the 'Carrier' grade provider in us. --
Re: [AFMUG] Belkin routers going nuts
We are seeing this also.. Belkin domain is down Also be aware that the belkins use heartbeat.belkin.com to check to see if there is internet access and if the answer comes back negative then it will not connect any lan clients to internet. Also there are a few exploits that have been exposed on 1.00 firmware which do bad things to the wan side of things. I am currently trying to spoof heartbeat.belkin.com to our internal dns to fool the router into thinking everything is ok. On 10/07/2014 09:11 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af wrote: 13 customers so far today - all Belkin. Powned? Mark On 10/7/14, 10:04 AM, Darren Shea via Af wrote: Is anyone else getting inundated with a flood of customers who can't connect to the internet through their Belkin routers this morning? What's the deal with that?, Darren
Re: [AFMUG] Belkin routers going nuts
Exactly... We are setting up an RPZ to handle this.. On 10/07/2014 10:43 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: That seemsstupid. If Belkin goes out of business, all their routers become bricks? Also be aware that the belkins use heartbeat.belkin.com to check to see if there is internet access and if the answer comes back negative then it will not connect any lan clients to internet
Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
We are running Centos6 with bind9.9 currently. On 10/03/2014 08:46 AM, Josh Baird via Af wrote: Yeah. RHEL/CentOS backport security patches. To quote myself from a previous email in this thread: CentOS doesn't have the latest and greatest packages because it's upstream is RHEL. This is the nature of enterprise linux. They don't have major package revisions during the entire lifecycle of any given major version (ie, RHEL5/6/7) and they backport security fixes and patches. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I would disagree, didn’t Steve say the latest he updated to was 9.8.2? https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-00913/0/BIND-9-Security-Vulnerability-Matrix.html ISC shows 9.8.8 EOL as of September 2014, so 9.8.2 is quite a few versions old. With all the DNS amplification attacks and these zero day exploits coming out all the time, I’d want to be pretty current, plus I believe 9.10 gives you RRL in your toolbox to deal with attacks although I’ll admit I haven’t had time to experiment with it. *From:* Mike Hammett via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, October 03, 2014 6:10 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus The server based distributions like CentOS\RHEL and Debian generally are close to current regarding security updates even if they don't have the latest version. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, October 2, 2014 5:30:01 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus You need a named.conf that defines the slave zones and the IP address of the master. But first step is to download/compile/install the latest version of BIND, it’s actually quite easy. I doubt you can get the version you want via yum update because CentOS is based on RHEL which is always a few steps behind. Given the DNS attacks, you want the latest BIND. You might then want to lock out the package from being updated by yum. *From:* That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 4:36 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus So Im at a new Centos with webmin fresh bind install. We have one master, one slave server I have never set up bind, this was done before me. If I were to take down the old slave server and bring this one up on its IP will the master update this one, or is there a config I need to move over. Im more comfotable doing the slave first. These are all webmin, but the original is ubuntu and the new is centos On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Paul Stewart via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I always install CentOS bare bones …. “minimal server” is what the installation will call it. This way you can install whatever you like after installation and not worry about removing many dozen packages you don’t need… Just my preference anyways…. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 2:24 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus 2 questions in this 1. when running through the current centos installation, what do i select for the server type, for powercode it says select basic server 2. is there a guide for building dedicated centos servers based on server purpose? I assume there are packages I dont need to install if its only got this purpose On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Paul Stewart via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: CentOS+BIND+Webmin JI can’t remember but Usermin might be the part you’re looking for specific to users updating their own DNS….. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 1:21 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus Is there a good, simple package for locally hosted DNS Servers for people like me who dont want to get too far into managing the linux at a granular level? we are used to the webmin interface. It would be nice if it had the option to set up client
Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
PDNS or power dns works really well also very lightweight. On 10/03/2014 09:05 AM, Ty Featherling via Af wrote: My predecessor had our DNS setup on SimpleDNS. I have never changed it because it really just always works. I have not had a SINGLE issue with it. Easy GUI. Simple. I will be moving to linux when I get a good VM server going but I am very impressed with SimpleDNS. -Ty On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I think a couple of us has mentioned SimpleDNS – 2 minute install – just works J *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird via Af *Sent:* Friday, October 03, 2014 9:47 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus Yeah. RHEL/CentOS backport security patches. To quote myself from a previous email in this thread: CentOS doesn't have the latest and greatest packages because it's upstream is RHEL. This is the nature of enterprise linux. They don't have major package revisions during the entire lifecycle of any given major version (ie, RHEL5/6/7) and they backport security fixes and patches. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I would disagree, didn’t Steve say the latest he updated to was 9.8.2? https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-00913/0/BIND-9-Security-Vulnerability-Matrix.html ISC shows 9.8.8 EOL as of September 2014, so 9.8.2 is quite a few versions old. With all the DNS amplification attacks and these zero day exploits coming out all the time, I’d want to be pretty current, plus I believe 9.10 gives you RRL in your toolbox to deal with attacks although I’ll admit I haven’t had time to experiment with it. *From:*Mike Hammett via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:*Friday, October 03, 2014 6:10 AM *To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus The server based distributions like CentOS\RHEL and Debian generally are close to current regarding security updates even if they don't have the latest version. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, October 2, 2014 5:30:01 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus You need a named.conf that defines the slave zones and the IP address of the master. But first step is to download/compile/install the latest version of BIND, it’s actually quite easy. I doubt you can get the version you want via yum update because CentOS is based on RHEL which is always a few steps behind. Given the DNS attacks, you want the latest BIND. You might then want to lock out the package from being updated by yum. *From:*That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:*Thursday, October 02, 2014 4:36 PM *To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus So Im at a new Centos with webmin fresh bind install. We have one master, one slave server I have never set up bind, this was done before me. If I were to take down the old slave server and bring this one up on its IP will the master update this one, or is there a config I need to move over. Im more comfotable doing the slave first. These are all webmin, but the original is ubuntu and the new is centos On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Paul Stewart via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I always install CentOS bare bones …. “minimal server” is what the installation will call it. This way you can install whatever you like after installation and not worry about removing many dozen packages you don’t need… Just my preference anyways…. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 2:24 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus 2 questions in this 1. when running through the current centos installation, what do i select for the server type, for powercode it says select basic server 2. is there a guide for building dedicated centos servers based on server purpose? I assume there are packages I dont need to install if its only got this purpose On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Paul Stewart via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: CentOS+BIND+Webmin JI can’t remember but Usermin might be the part you’re looking for specific to
Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 in 5.1 - 5.3 ???
YE my preciou :) On 10/02/2014 08:05 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: I believe a second HW model is planned for 4.9 – 5.3, different filtering. *From:* Gino Villarini via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 4:23 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] PMP450 in 5.1 - 5.3 ??? Are there any plans for this? Is the HW capable? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] Cacti templates for PTP650?
Yes, This happens with different versions of cacti thats y I asked. Typically backwards but not forward compatibility. May have to look at versions array to see what versions are compatible with yours. Also, OS updates or patches could break it. I have two instances of cacti running usually an older version and a newer version to sort or troubleshoot these weird issues with cacti. Have a look into the forums and it should shed some lite on the issue. On 10/01/2014 11:42 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Eric, Got an XML parsing error on that template (not a hash error). Did you include subordinate templates in the export? It's possible yours is referencing something I don't have in my installation (like a special CDEF or something). bp On 9/30/2014 11:05 AM, Eric Muehleisen via Af wrote: I took a PTP500 and changed it slightly. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1578608/Public/cacti_host_template_cambium_ptp_650_bh.xml On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Once again, I am on a quest for a Cacti template. This time for the PTP650. Any one constructed one? I'll wait a couple of days, then probably construct one of my own. Tnx. -- bp
Re: [AFMUG] Cacti templates for PTP650?
What version cacti was this created in ? SVN On 09/30/2014 01:05 PM, Eric Muehleisen via Af wrote: I took a PTP500 and changed it slightly. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1578608/Public/cacti_host_template_cambium_ptp_650_bh.xml On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Once again, I am on a quest for a Cacti template. This time for the PTP650. Any one constructed one? I'll wait a couple of days, then probably construct one of my own. Tnx. -- bp
Re: [AFMUG] Installer attire
We have those here LOL On 09/25/2014 02:02 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af wrote: What about guys with Duck Dynasty style beards? Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/25/2014 11:57 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: Gonna flip this on it's head... Here in Alaska, if you are wearing a uniform from any company that isn't a local utility, you are immediately untrusted. People here would rather do business with guys operating out of an unmarked truck that they've known their entire lives than working out of some fancy whole-logo-wrapped truckwith uniform standards and tons of paperwork. Just something I've learned since being here... it's a different world. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/25/2014 09:54 AM, Keefe John via Af wrote: We don't let anyone go to a customer without logo'd professional apparel. We give each tech 5 shirts(a mix of polos and buttondowns) plus a logo'd jacket.� Tech's must wear nice pants or jeans plus the logo'd shirt and tennis shoes or boots.� Nothing worn out, ripped, dirty, etc is allowed.� You want your employees to look like professionals not duck dynasty. Even in the office we don't allow tshirts, hoodies, shorts, sandals, or anything else unprofessional.� You never know when a customer might stop by and you always want to look your best. Keefe On 9/25/2014 10:39 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: I don't mind sweatshirts or jackets; It's autumn after all.� Am I crazy to think that a camo hoodie is inappropriate? We're not hunting the internet are we? I'm trying to decide if my ire is justified or if I'm being some kind of grumpy old fart.
Re: [AFMUG] List buggies that bug me
TY.. On 09/23/2014 07:53 AM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: We are still looking at that issue :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List buggies that bug me Happens to me as well on iphone. Sucks. Sam Lambie Wireless Internet Technician www.taosnet.com 575.758.7598 On Sep 23, 2014, at 6:00 AM, David Milholen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Threads are not consolidating as threads but instead splattered up and down list. I am sure this is a thunderbird issue and not a filter issue with the list. -- Davidmvcf.jpg
Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest replacements?
+1 this is what we use is the speedtest mini also. Just something for our techs to verify service is all. On 09/23/2014 10:41 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: speedtest mini, it's just a PHP script and some files... http://www.speedtest.net/mini.php On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Darren Shea via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: The current version we use is a basic SpeedTest interface, and Ookla stores the results in a database, so we can review all the results for a particular IP address (great for those pesky “my speedtest results always suck” customers) – that was costing us $500/year. The other advantage is that we give our Speedtest server URL to our customers, and they don’t see ads, including ads for rival ISPs. In the now-typical cycle, Ookla has decided to discontinue support for this popular product, and are trying to move us to their new NetGauge product, which is nearly $2000 for the yearly license, and another $1000 for one-time setup/customization/branding, which they offer to waive if we renew. I don’t need all the new features, and don’t want to spend 4 times as much for them… Darren *From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+dshea mailto:af-bounces%2Bdshea=ecpi@afmug.com mailto:ecpi@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:13 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest replacements? So, what are the licensing costs? Is this for private use or does it also cost to run a public speedtest.net http://speedtest.net server? On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Us too. Same story with Ookla. Like their interface, but their prices are too steep for what we use it for. bp On 9/23/2014 7:34 AM, Darren Shea via Af wrote: We currently host our own speedtest server using Ookla's speedtest technology, but Ookla is discontinuing the version we run, and the licensing fees for the new version are very steep. I'm looking at alternatives, such as OpenSpeedTest and speed.io http://speed.io, but would like to get some feedback on these if anyone is using them. We once tried using Brandon Checkett's Fancy Speed Test, but the results display was not really in line with what we wanted. Does anyone hosting their own, non-Ookla, speedtest server have some success stories or horror stories about particular packages? Thank you, Darren
Re: [AFMUG] List buggies that bug me
I know what ya mean man! On 09/23/2014 02:39 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: The list has been outside my window every night this week trying to assassinate me, I dont appreciate having to spend my evenings hidden on the floor behind my couch. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:55 PM, David via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: TY.. On 09/23/2014 07:53 AM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: We are still looking at that issue :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm mailto:af-bounces%2Bpaulm=pdmnet@afmug.com mailto:pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:50 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List buggies that bug me Happens to me as well on iphone. Sucks. Sam Lambie Wireless Internet Technician www.taosnet.com http://www.taosnet.com 575.758.7598 tel:575.758.7598 On Sep 23, 2014, at 6:00 AM, David Milholen via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Threads are not consolidating as threads but instead splattered up and down list. I am sure this is a thunderbird issue and not a filter issue with the list. -- Davidmvcf.jpg -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] routing to/from 169.254.0.0
Can you do a pptp tunnel and configure pc for tunnel using the 169.254.x.x/16 block ? Ive done this in a pinch and works great. On 09/23/2014 04:09 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Like I said. Telnet is not an option (PTP650). bp On 9/23/2014 9:39 AM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: You guys are making this hard I think Hang a 168.254.x.x IP on the Tik interface. Telnet from the Tik to the Canopy radio Change its IP through telnet ip -1 123.123.123.50 (or whatever) Change its netmask through telnet netmask -1 255.255.255.0 (or whatever) Change its gateway through telnet netgateway 123.123.123.1 (or whatever) reboot through telnet reset Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:58 AM To: Motorola III Subject: [AFMUG] routing to/from 169.254.0.0 Is there a way to route to/from a Cambium radio that is on the default IP (169.254.1.1) through a Mikrotik? I think the issue is that the default configuration does not have a gateway. So it doesn't know the way back. I put the interface on the MT on 169.254.1.3/16, but don't get replies unless I go directly from the MT. -- bp
Re: [AFMUG] New toy
That is on my Dream list to have.. Could of used at the first of the year. We had 3 new free standing sites that went in around feb and march... grrr On 09/18/2014 09:34 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: We picked this up in Dallas at Hilti shop for 1k. Brand new!!! Drove 10 ft grounding rod in less than a minute. My trusty fence pole driver will always be in my work truck just in case. Jaime Solorza
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in. We use only AGM for our area. On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites? I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH. Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us. -- signature http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies.