Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
On 12/30/14 11:15, That One Guy via Af wrote: Did this make us like Jesus?
Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling
On 12/29/14 8:46, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: When attempting to collect system wide status and alarm data real-time, are traps reliable enough or should you just poll everything on a regular basis?
Re: [AFMUG] traps vs polling
On 12/29/14 10:19, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Important caveat is that traps are UDP, and so may get lost when bad things are happening on the network. Use an SNMP inform instead of a trap, if the device supports it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Mounting Brackets against irregular surface brick
On 12/28/14 5:45 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: I’ve got some buildings that have a decorative brick on the side that has peaks and valleys of up to 1.5” I need to mount brackets against them meaning I need a tool that can ream away the brick until I have a smooth area to mount the bracket against it. Imagine a hole saw that that is just flat or something like a counter sink tool. Can someone please tell me what that’s called? A diamond cup wheel on an angle grinder will make a nice smooth area. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] access to Greenpacket wixs-177
On 12/26/14 11:14 AM, Philip Rankin via Af wrote: Hi Steve, Thanks! I don't think these are the same. And, btw, I am not sure that I got any from you. Things go by so danged fast here, and I'm gettin' old so I am more confused than I should oghtta be! Anyway, I have all of the access to the units except the username and password. The default admin -- admin doesn't work. I have tried researching all over the net to find a way to hardware reset the unit, but haven't found anything yet. And, are you the guy that I purchased the Purewave 6636s from? Wow, they work GOOD! Thanks! Want another one (includes everything wimax related)? It all works, I'm just looking to get out of that market. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Friday Funny. Local paper makes an interestingmisprint
On 12/26/14 11:19 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: That’s the problem, newspapers have probably fired all the editors to save money. We don’t need no stinkin’ editors. Who needs editors when spell check works for free? ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Playstation, Xbox Live networks reported down?
On 12/25/14 11:30 AM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote: Xbox? is that just because the game is stupidly made, or is it everything? That's how it all works now. Things call home to authorize you're allowed to use it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Question on the Sony Hack
On 12/19/14, 12:13, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: Did Malaysia get all upset about Zoolander? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrdS8mYtEh4 Zoolander wasn't shown in Malaysia since their their censorship board deemed it unsuitable. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Siklu EH-1200FX
On 12/18/14, 9:07, Jeremy via Af wrote: Planning for those futuristic 10G backhauls? I ran OM3 to my roof (x12). SMF is far cheaper per foot than MMF. You can also use cheap CWDMs on SMF instead of pulling more fiber (8 to 1) if you needed more ports. MMF is useful if you have a lot of existing stuff and it would cost more to replace all the existing optics and patch cords. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
On 12/16/14, 6:47 AM, Christopher Tyler via Af wrote: I don't ever want to see a countdown for a green or red light. The idiots already try and push it now if they had a graph that shows them exaclty when it will change... no thanks. The pedestrian signal countdown timers effectively are the same thing and they're everywhere, at least where I am. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
On 12/16/14, 8:02 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Primitive beings and their manual gearboxes. I still drive a stick because it's fun. Also nobody else drives my car because they can't figure out how to operate it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable
On 12/15/14, 6:50 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: You might find cable grips in the Klein tools display in the electrical section at Home Depot, but an electrical supply house (or online) will have more choices of size and type. Yeah they should have a couple small ones. I've never seen mule tape there though. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] security system with still camera capture
On 12/10/14, 10:29 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: I’m looking for a security system that has two types of cameras, one motion camera and one still camera. It has to be outdoor, meaning up to 130 degrees, and can shoot multi-megapixel pictures every 15 seconds or so. I need the server to not only record both, but use a FIFO archiving system that supports a couple weeks. Has anyone seen an integrated system like this or am I setting up 2 systems? Not really a system but Axis cameras do this internally. I have mine set to capture a series of stills on motion along with recording video in parallel. The stills are easy to scan through then you can go back and look at the video if needed. I haven't specifically tried it, but it does have a frames per minute option for still captures. I would expect if you set it to 12 on a continuously active rule that it would output a JPEG every 5 seconds. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
On 12/10/14, 12:27, Brian Sullivan via Af wrote: Is it better than PMP450? Yes no maybe. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
On 12/10/14, 13:10, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: I think this is good news actually, as it is sure to light the competitive fire under Cambium to get to feature parity and get rid of speed licenses. Speed licenses should die a horrible death. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] OPEN SLOT TODAY on ISPRADIO
On 12/3/14, 7:39 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: Have someone from Ubiquiti on to explain why in God's name they thought a cloud platform is what people wanted. CLOUD: because you will want it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Cold weather gloves
On 12/3/14, 13:41, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: man you guys sure are into LatexI am on the AF WISP list right? Well, bring out the gimp.
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question
On 12/1/14, 8:59, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: If you don't have their POEs you might as well just run a new fiber run. You can either spend all that time finding POEs and getting that set or just fix the initial problem =/ You don't need it to use the Ethernet ports. The Lumina never takes POE to the radio itself, it has a separate DC input you can feed with the POE splitter or any way you feel like getting power to the radio. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question
On 12/1/14, 10:28, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Sure in that case but I think Paul is looking to limp on cat5 during the fiber cut. In which case he can just plug it in and go. If he's running fiber then he's already got it powered since the fiber wasn't doing that. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] OT Text width
On 11/19/14, 8:59, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Thanks, that I what I was thinking, but 80 columns looks pretty small on a modern IDE editor screen. Maybe I will allow myself a few more columns I use 110x48. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] GigE-APC for ePMP?
The GigE surge suppressors are effectively universal. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] GigE-APC for ePMP?
On 11/18/14, 10:47, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Has anyone verified it specifically, though? Well, electrically it's universal. I haven't personally tested it on every single device, but I only use GigEAPC-HV everywhere for everything. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] GigE-APC for ePMP?
On 11/18/14, 10:54, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Sounds good. Fingers crossed that it goes off without a hitch =) Just make sure it's the HV version. The non-HV clamps way below POE voltages. The main reason I only use the GigEAPC-HV is because I want to stock a single part. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up
On 11/14/14, 4:48 AM, Cameron Crum via Af wrote: NASA is pretty much a joke these days using old faulty Russian boosters A few tidbits: Antares wasn't NASA. The last shuttle flight was in 2011 and both the SRBs and SSME were made in the USA. Other things like the Atlas V used to to launch Curiosity does use the Russian RD-180 engine on the first stage with the American RL10 on the upper stage, but technically Atlas is United Launch Alliance (Lockheed Martin and Boeing) and not NASA. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] How do you power an ePMP on a tower?
On 11/13/14, 15:05, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: What are my options besides stacking a bunch of the included POEs? http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-gigabit-poe-injector-controller/ Also in 8-port or gigabit syncinjector. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Obama just threw Tom Wheeler under the bus
On 11/10/14, 16:03, Jason McKemie via Af wrote: I really wish I would stop reading comments, but they're kinda like a train wreck. The following picture sums up what happens to me when I read internet comments.
Re: [AFMUG] Man I love 10Gbps connections!
On 11/10/14, 16:39, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote: I suspect it doesn't multithread it well, because the CPU is only around 14 percent. I thought it didn't multithread at all, i.e. one core per port. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Mailing List Behavior
On 10/31/14, 8:19 AM, Darin Steffl via Af wrote: I agree and was waiting to see if someone else would bring it up. It only shows the name so I have no way of seeing the actual sender email address to bring something off-list. I agree it's crap, but I gave up hope. I've been told Amazon is the best. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Mailing List Behavior
On 10/31/14, 8:33, Robbie Wright via Af wrote: I wasn't involved in the move of the mailing list at all, but this was a needed thing. Since all of you should have SPF records on your domain, when the mailing list program attempted to send mail with your from address, it should have been picked up by spam filters because it was coming from the AMFUG server which most likely wasn't authorized in your SPF record. With the combination of SPF, DKIM, and now DMARC, mailing lists cannot (and shouldn't) fake people's from email address. How the team that did the move completed this is technically correct. The sender's name is great but you have to use the right domain. No, just no. Know the difference between the sender and the envelope sender. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Mailing List Behavior
On 10/31/14, 9:38, Robbie Wright via Af wrote: You're correct Seth, there is a difference between the envelope sender and the mail from address.In the case of DMARC, it requires that the envelope sender domain match that of the dkim domain and that of the mail from domain to achieve what they call alignment. I can't recall who did the move, but they chose option number 3a here: http://www.dmarc.org/faq.html#s_3 I agree, not seeing the original sender's email addy isn't ideal. From a mail sending stand point, the list is doing it correct (in my opinion) but it does make it a little less usable. I can't really agree anything right is happening. Most glaringly, threading has been fubar'd to all hell and my AFMUG folder now looks like a post-apocalyptic wasteland of disarray. Maybe most aren't used to clients that do real threading or have separate Reply and Reply List functions, but I can't stand how this list now operates. The thing is that what it says about DMARC isn't happening here: DMARC introduces the concept of aligned identifiers. Briefly, it means the domain in the RFC5322.From header must match the domain in the d= tag in the DKIM signature for DKIM alignment, and/or match the domain in the RFC5321.MailFrom field for SPF alignment. Take ownership of the email message by changing the RFC5322.From address to one in the mailing list's domain, and adding a DKIM signature for that domain. Several variations are covered below. In the headers the DKIM signature has d=amazonses.com where From is afmug.com. That doesn't look like what DMARC calls alignment to me. Since SPF historically operates on the envelope sender, not the from header, that's always worked before DMARC. However, tweaking an SPF implementation to start checking the From header would reject lots of things with an -all policy. And on a side note, next time I'm in Tahoe, I'd love to buy you a beer and talk about TahoeIX. I love the idea of smaller IX's like that and would love to see/hear what you guys are doing. Sure, I'd happy to give a tour of what's set up for the IX and go into the details. It's still quite small due to just being started in September, but it's pretty exciting. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Wireless headsets for office phone
On 10/31/14, 12:01, Nicholas Eastman via Af wrote: We gave our technicians Plantronics wireless headsets... The main downfall we've seen with them is that after a short time, the headset goes to sleep and takes an extra second or two to re-connect to the base and pick the call up, otherwise, the techs that use them are pleased with the performance and ease of them. If you do decide to go with wireless ones, make sure they come with lifters, otherwise it's pick up the phone and press the button on the headset to pick up, and push the button and hang the phone back on the hook when done. It can become a bit tedious depending on the use of the headsets... Lifters suck. Don't almost all modern business phones have a headset jack? ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Field Paperwork
On 10/29/14, 10:41, CARL PETERSON via Af wrote: I�m going to second paperless. We just use google drive with a folder for open sales orders and a folder for completed sales orders. In the office, we just save new sales orders to the open folder. Tech opens them on an iPad mini, has the customer sign them, and saves them to completed. WAY easier then trying to track down paper and then file it. My signature on a screen with my finger looks nothing like my actual signature. Does anyone know how that difference holds up if challenged? ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] APC load in watts
On 10/28/14, 7:31 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: This is the first time I've ever taken a very close look at the management page on one of the APC's here. I had been thinking they were somebody else's problem. Why do I see Load in Watts with a value of 10.4%? My first thought was maybe the % was a typo, but 10.4 watts sounds too low. Second thought was maybe it's 10.4% of 1500VAbut that sounds too high. No matter what it makes no sense. Anybody know what I'm supposed to learn by reading this? (other than the programmer failed English) That's a percentage of full load watts, adjusted for power factor, which on APC should be .8 of the VA rating. The VA is a bigger number and thus used for marketing. Nicer UPS systems will have variable PF and should display that value, too. Real power vs. apparent power in non-linear loads, so pretty much all computer equipment. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Generator question
On 10/26/14, 14:17, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: So I have a unique situation at our office. We're looking at a Generac QuietSource 22 or 30kW running on NG. I'm not dead set on that, but those are very nice and quiet 1800RPM. And the problem is, our building is really old and is split in half with two separate 240 services coming in. And I do have an old empty 1-1/4 conduit between the two utility closets. The two services is actually nice because a lot of times, one side will have power when the other doesn't. One comes from the north, the other from the south. There's no way we can rewire and combine everything into one service feed. I'm trying to wrap my mind around how to do something like two auto-transfer switches on one generator. I have critical stuff to run on both sides. Probably need a qualified electrician or engineer, but I thought I'd ask here for suggestions before we go down that road and pay someone to come up with something that I most likely wouldn't like. Feed a panelboard that subfeeds multiple transfer switches. Use switches that are two wire start signal and a generator that accepts a two wire start signal. Parallel the start connections. They'll switch independently. Pretty common and straightforward thing. I'm feeding three on a bus. If any one of the three want to go to emergency it will and the other two will do whatever they think is right, too. Don't do anything dumb like trying to come up with logic that depends on the others. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Generator question
On 10/26/14, 15:11, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Those generacs have lots of interconnections between the transfer switch and the generator. They may be able to do a two wire start, but I would not count on it. I have installed lots of them and it seems like there is about 8 control wire. I would say such a generator is the wrong tool for this kind of job if it can't handle a two wire start signal. Here's a crappy 30-second one line diagram for a normal situation. But I also don't use generators that mandate some proprietary transfer switch. The last thing I'll say on this topic is to avoid ghetto hack solutions or utility-to-utility transfers, because it really is straightforward (and safe) with the right tools for the job. If you want to hack something and are dead set on Generac, then hack it to come up with a universal two wire contact closure start input, not everything else around it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Generator question
On 10/26/14, 3:56 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: I said I wasn't dead set on the Generac. Only thing is, 1800RPM is cool and quiet. We have houses and other businesses around that don't want to hear an 18 wheeler running full bore all night long. And we have a 6x3' pad poured already, biggest we could fit. Ah yes, you did say gas. I'm all diesel and thus 1800 RPM is normal. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Random thought
On 10/18/14, 7:57 AM, Paul Conlin via Af wrote: Those stupid fast speeds sure do make it harder to get face time with potential customers however. Cable COs are making 25 Mbps the new base. The base is 60 meg here. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Random thought
On 10/18/14, 8:26 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: And an amazing price for 6 months or for 12 months? Yeah I pay $29 for 60 meg and actually get it (typically 66). No bundle required. I can't serve myself for free but for 30 bucks I'm not too heartbroken. The upload still blows at 4 meg though. I don't even bother with residential, honestly. Businesses are easier to deal with, especially the ones doing cloud stuff and suffering with the 4 meg upload. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] SM Isolation question
On 10/16/14, 7:02 AM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote: I know I personally spent at least 50+ hours over the previous 15 years installing/fixing/supporting Quickbooks on our LAN. Getting it installed on a server, setting up the shares, mapping drive letters, installing it on each PC, etc. The software cost us $500 to buy, and then the yearly updates were usually $200-$300. Or you can subscribe to the online version for $39/month and be done with it. It's automatically backed up, you don't have to host it on your own server, or worry about upgrade issues or users with problems, etc. One concern I have with that model is that it comes off like a protection racket: it would be a shame what would happen to your files if you stop paying. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] SM Isolation question
On 10/16/14, 8:02 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: If you are a graphic designer or web designer, I’m sure it’s a very good deal. I'll have to ask one of my ad agency customers what they think of it. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Rflelements announcement
On 10/15/14, 7:06 AM, Ty Featherling via Af wrote: So you're saying this is more marketing than innovation? When I hear horn antenna I think ATT Long Lines sites. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Microwave Backhaul Ethernet Grommets - Feedback Wanted
On 10/10/14, 14:12, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: Oh, and I don’t think metal glands necessarily require terminating the cable after passing through the gland (something that should be avoided at all costs). If I’m remembering right when we installed some Exalt G2 links, they had a metal gland that you could pass a cable terminated with a shielded plug through. And that’s their entry level radio. I could be remembering wrong though, I don’t have one here to look at. Yeah the Exalt metal ones you can pass a terminated cable through. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] ObamaCare
On 10/9/14, 8:10, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: And everyone keeps touting the “great” systems of health care in Canada and Europe. Those systems are fine if you have the flu but if you need an MRI, it could take months. If you have cancer late in life, I suggest your will is ready. It’s easier to get an MRI for your dog. And when the money runs out in a fiscal year for a specific treatment, you wait until the next fiscal year for that treatment. In Europe, they have lottery’s to see the dentist and if you don’t get picked, hopefully you get picked the next time. As someone with Canadian family, the normal procedure is to come over to the US and get an MRI or whatever if you can't get one there or your place on the waiting list sucks. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2 conduit
On 10/9/14, 9:48, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: How would you pull a bundle like that? What do you use to attach the cables together before pulling? Just electrical tape? Any other suggestions? If you must pull that many vs. a switch up top, a pulling sock (one of those Chinese finger trap looking things) and lots of wire lube. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Monitoring Diesel fuel level
On 10/9/14, 13:08, Nate Burke via Af wrote: Anybody had a Diesel tank level monitor that they like? Preferably something that could Wire into a Site Monitor for monitoring. Needing to monitor 2 Generator tanks. one is about 6 deep, 20Gallon. The other is about 24 deep, 50 gallon. The 6 Tank is Steel and has a cheap float guage. Something that could replace that would be perfect. The 24 tank is plastic, and has no gauge from what I can tell. Is a low level switch too ghetto? That's all I use, when it alarms I know there's X hours remaining. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe clamps and tower mount suppliers
On 9/29/14, 10:41, That One Guy via Af wrote: get your pipes from local plumbing shop, much cheaper than distributors we found. I realised you can do this when site pro forgot to wipe off the printing on the pipe and it was the same thing the plumber carried. Or fence supply shop. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 5.4 and 5.2ghz Bands
On 9/26/14, 10:03, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: Both. Do you live under a rock? :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMEb8JSvzdc
Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE
On 9/25/14, 10:59, Chris Wright via Af wrote: Agreed, Dennis. HUGE letdown that Mikrotik hasn�t enabled multicore BGP yet. 35 cores go to waste. Multithreaded BGP processes aren't exactly common, it's not like everyone has it except Mikrotik. I wouldn't make plans expecting multithreaded BGP to save you later. This is more of an unsuitable product application with the lots of slow cores architecture. Choose the right tool for the job. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge 5M-25
On 9/25/14, 14:34, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: why not buy nanobeam M5-400? same dish size, works on the same 24VDC PoE, interoperable with the other stuff. mechanically much better. It's probably not very interoperable without DFS in some cases, like if you use those bands. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy
On 9/22/14, 17:08, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote: What ant/radio is that? I'm guessing a small Radiowaves. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] empty messages
--- [ Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote ]: --- On 9/19/14, 12:50, Bill Prince via Af wrote: Hrrrmmm. Not empty ones. But new messages all have the From posted on the first line. That's an improvement! Ugh, I think it's the opposite. Why can't the headers be fixed? ~Seth
