Re: [AFMUG] SyncInjector Gigabit for CAP320 jumper settings?

[Ty Featherling]

Thanks Forrest. I'll make some adapters.



On Jan 25, 2018 1:04 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> The gigabit won't work with the 320 without a special cable.   The pinning
> is not gigabit compatible.  See below.
>
> In re jumper settings in general,  Debbie has a hand-drawn .pdf which
> she'll send you with the jumpers for the PowerInjector+Sync, assuming it
> was your ticket in the ticketing system I noted earlier, if not send a
> email into cust...@packetflux.com.   It's the same drawing that josh
> linked to, with the pinning reversed left to right.
>
> Generally for the 320, set it the same as the traditional cambium pinouts
> (should come from the factory that way) (4,5-, 7,8+), and then wire as
> follows:
>
> Pins 1,2,3,4,6,8 straight through.
> Swap pins 5 and 7.  I.E. pin 5 on one end of the cable goes to pin 7 on
> the other end of the cable.
>
> Or put differently:  on a standard 568B cable, on one end only, swap the
> blue/white and brown/white wires.
>
> Personally, I like to make a little dongle with a single port keystone
> wall jack on a short piece of CAT5 with the swap above to make it obvious
> that an 'adapter' is place.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Can anyone tell me the proper jumper settings to power cap320 aps from
>> the latest SyncInjector Gigabit? I'm replacing an old model that was
>> designated for Canopy430 and I don't want to blow up my radios or my SI.
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>
>
>
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>

[AFMUG] SyncInjector Gigabit for CAP320 jumper settings?

[Ty Featherling]

Can anyone tell me the proper jumper settings to power cap320 aps from the
latest SyncInjector Gigabit? I'm replacing an old model that was designated
for Canopy430 and I don't want to blow up my radios or my SI.


-Ty

[AFMUG] Mirotik help - dual backhauls and bridges

[Ty Featherling]

I have my network setup with a common bridge (bridgeWAN) setup on each
router in an area. The backhaul in goes into this bridge and any backhauls
to further sites do as well. OSPF sorts out the default path and the bridge
gets them there in one IP hop. I have a major site that I am added a second
backhaul link to the upstream direction today (Airfiber 5x multiplexer for
the win). I am trying to figure out how to bond these two backhauls from
bridgeWAN on router A to bridgeWAN on router B. Any way to share the load
across those links would be great. If I just plug them in spanning tree
shuts one down. The real kink in the works may be that they have different
capacities. What can I do?


-Ty

Re: [AFMUG] Live Long and Prosper

[Ty Featherling]

Happy Birthday Jay!



-Ty

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Happy birthday
>
> On Sep 8, 2016 9:11 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Why thanks, but I'm only 39 :)
>> Happy to share a birthday with star trek tho :)
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza 
>> *To:* Animal Farm 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:04 AM
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Live Long and Prosper
>>
>> "Space,... the final frontier... "
>> Happy 50th.
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Something new

[Ty Featherling]

Very cool. I have looked into mag mounts before but they get expensive fast.



-Ty

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 9:04 PM, David Milholen  wrote:

> We have used something similar for 12yrs on top of a water tank that
> supports our pipe mounts
>
> that hold a MTOW-3P with one 450AP center and 2 outer fsk900 integrated
> panels. The center had a 900fsk but
>
> we removed it to insert the new 450iAP 900 panel. There are 4 of those
> pipe mounts on that tank and the other
>
> 2 mounts hold a MTOW-3P with 2 pmp450 3.65 AP panels
>
> One of our climbers actually tested the pipes to see if they were still
> holding strong so he supported himself from the mount while staying tied
>
> off to the center mast on the tank.
>
> We also made a single pole mast with 2 of the smaller magnets that would
> mount to red iron or most flat metal surface.
>
> We used it for holding the motorola WLAN CAN which weighed about 65lbs
> after being mounted and our tech was able to stand on top of the mount
>
> without it moving.
>
> Those crazy Magnets LOL
>
>
>
> On 8/19/2016 6:25 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> https://youtu.be/s32uO9zQgEI
> Sorry about the lousy audio.� This shows testing of a prototype mag
> mount accessory to our tower mounts.
> I think I can improve on this but it starts to cut loose at about 100-120
> lbs of force.� So I would not rate it over 50 lbs.
> If there were 4 of these on one of our P mounts you could probably safely
> mount a 100-200 lb antenna on it.�
>
>
> --
>

Re: [AFMUG] Telescoping Mast me lil brudder made

[Ty Featherling]

Very nice.



-Ty

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> This one goes 28 ft.One he is making me will go 40
>
> On Aug 19, 2016 8:06 AM, "Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Great pictures Jaime. How heavy is it? And what is the max height?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> This is his prototype he is letting use for some site surveys...
>>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Telescoping Mast me lil brudder made

[Ty Featherling]

Great pictures Jaime. How heavy is it? And what is the max height?



-Ty

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> This is his prototype he is letting use for some site surveys...
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Court Transcript

[Ty Featherling]

That was incredible.





-Ty

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> That's stunning.
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Chuck McCown" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 7/28/2016 11:58:05 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Court Transcript
>
>
> https://imgur.com/a/skffp
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXB988kF3hI
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] old laptops

[Ty Featherling]

Spall!



-Ty

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Cameron Crum  wrote:

> When you said drill holes, I thought you meant with a decent caliber
> rifle. Something like out of The Jackal
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyXdB_AYiDs
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Robert Andrews 
> wrote:
>
>> I used to work with a company that a contractor put a thermite charge on
>> top of the disc drives below the graphics system..   Purpose is left to
>> your imagination...
>>
>> On 07/12/2016 11:59 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>>> Thermite
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, July 12,
>>> 2016 12:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] old laptops
>>>
>>> On 7/12/16 11:55, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
 That's why you drill a few 1/4" holes.

>>>
>>>
>>> A Hilti gun requires less effort.
>>>
>>> ~Seth
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT copywrite infringtement

[Ty Featherling]

That is a gem.

-Ty



-Ty

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Can't even spell copyright infringement I discovered too...
>
> -Original Message- From: Paul McCall
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:39 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT copywrite infringtement
>
>
> I almost spit my coffee, LOL
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:33 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT copywrite infringtement
>
> I hope this is fair use:
> (Kirby's column from the SL Tribune this morning)
>
> I’ve never met a situation I couldn’t make worse A couple of weeks ago in
> Butte, Mont., I watched an elderly couple have a full-on public meltdown in
> the hallway of a motel.
>
> We had driven 500 miles, and my wife was still asleep. I crept out of our
> room and went in search of the free breakfast. That’s when I encountered
> the couple.
>
> The angry woman was accusing one of the housekeeping staff of stealing a
> jewelry case they had left in the room. The young, tearful worker was
> trying to explain in really poor English that they should check with the
> front desk.
>
> The language barrier only made the old woman madder and the young worker
> more upset. The woman kept yelling at her to hand over the missing item and
> then go back to Mexico where she belonged. Her husband adamantly agreed. He
> had a Trump button on his jacket.
>
> Being the kind of guy I am, I sensed an opportunity to make things worse.
> It’s one of several serious personal shortcomings. I am an unrepentant
> provocateur. Have been since birth. I can’t help it.
>
> When someone is throwing a public fit like this, it’s impossible forme to
> not step in and help them completely lose their minds. God help me, I love
> it.
>
> The maid wasn’t from Mexico. She was from El Salvador. I know because she
> told me. But it was my next question that really set things off.
>
> “¿Cuál es el problema de este bruja?” I asked. [So what’s the problem with
> this witch?] The nervous smile I got from the worker detonated the old
> woman’s temper. She hadn’t understood a word I said, but she now knew that
> I was on the maid’s side.
>
> Spittle flying, head bobbing, dentures clacking, she looked like a
> RainBird as she screamed and accused all immigrants of being thieves and me
> of being a smartass.
>
> I still wanted some waffles. But no way was I going to pass up a chance to
> wind someone up until their head exploded. It’s why I would never make a
> good hostage negotiator.
>
> To get the couple off the maid’s back, I offered to help them fi nd their
> missing jewelry case. We went to the front desk and inquired.
>
> The case was there. Another guest had turned it in when he found it in the
> breakfast room on the serving line next to the scrambled eggs.
>
> Checking the contents of a jewelry bag, the old woman satisfied herself
> that nothing had been stolen. She looked at me and sneered.
>
> Her: “I still wish they would go back to Mexico.”
>
> Me: “And they wish they could punch you in the face.”
>
> Her Husband: “Hey! That’s my wife.
>
> Me: “OK, you punch her.”
>
> The manager and some security- looking guy showed up then and told us to
> calm down for the sake of the other guests. I admitted that the
> misunderstanding had been my fault. Wewere all a little on edge because of
> the political climate in America.
>
> “But things will get better when Hillary is president and we all have to
> learn Spanish.”
>
> I thought they were going to need an ambulance. They grabbed the jewelry
> bag and stormed out. Climbing into their Trumper-stickered truck with Iowa
> plates, they peeled away cursing immigrants and interfering smartasses
> alike. My wife was awake when I got back to the room.
>
> “What’s breakfast like?”
>
> “Not bad. There was a floor show, but you missed it.”
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Today's date is...

[Ty Featherling]

I don't get it.



-Ty

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Jerry Head 
wrote:

> All week long...ba-da-bing!
>
> On 6/16/2016 9:14 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>
>> 06-16-16.  Get it?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT 900 channels

[Ty Featherling]

Man that sucks. Makes you want to find the offending device and perform
some high velocity percussive maintenance on it!

-Ty



-Ty

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 3:56 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> Thanks. Not sure why I didn't find that.
>
> Not sure what this is, but it sucks. We were on 912 and someone decided to
> get right on top of us. Now we're at 923 and I can keep only one customer
> registered (because he's at -45). Looks like we're going to have to abandon
> 900 at this site.
>
>
>
> On 6/13/2016 3:30 PM, Micah Miller wrote:
>
> I believe that this will answer your 
> question:https://community.ubnt.com/t5/Wireless-Networking/Ubiquiti-900-Mhz-frequencies/td-p/454763
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:56 PM, George Skorup  
>  wrote:
>
> Anybody know offhand what the carrier frequencies are for the UBNT M900 at
> the various channel widths. Is 911 one of them?
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] *tap, tap, tap* Is this thing on?

[Ty Featherling]

Ha! Reminds me of all the customers that think I can see their computer
from here.




-Ty

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Andrew Haninger <ahan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> can you guys see what I type?
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
> > *** sits here confused ***
> >
> >
> > *** frantically scribbles note on paper ***
> >
> > *** mails note to Ty ***
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *** waits for response ***
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> just nod if you can hear me...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Ty
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  ELOooo  
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *** is anybody out there ***
> >>
> >>
>

Re: [AFMUG] *tap, tap, tap* Is this thing on?

[Ty Featherling]

404 host not found



-Ty

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> *** sits here confused ***
>
>
> *** frantically scribbles note on paper ***
>
> *** mails note to Ty ***
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> *** waits for response ***
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > just nod if you can hear me...
> >
> >
> >
> > -Ty
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  ELOooo  
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *** is anybody out there ***
> >
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] *tap, tap, tap* Is this thing on?

[Ty Featherling]

just nod if you can hear me...



-Ty

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> 
>
>
>
>
>
>  ELOooo  
>
>
>
>
> *** is anybody out there ***
>

Re: [AFMUG] IPV6 here we come

[Ty Featherling]

Gonna have to do something.

-Ty



-Ty

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:

> are you going to be natting IPV6 > IPV4 at the edge?
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Commencing new project:
>> Going to attempt to provision all new customers on V6 only.
>> This is gonna hurt.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] IPV6 here we come

[Ty Featherling]

A lot.

-Ty



-Ty

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Commencing new project:
> Going to attempt to provision all new customers on V6 only.
> This is gonna hurt.
>

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT and ATPC the Hell freezes

[Ty Featherling]

*thumbs up*



-Ty

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

> Newest beta for AF5X gets a ATPC function. You enter the target
>
> RX-Signal and it adapts TX-Power of the other side.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Level 3 issues?

[Ty Featherling]

There has been talk recently on the NANOG list about Level3 issues. The
have been combining the Time Warner Telecom and L3 networks.

-Ty
On May 27, 2016 2:33 PM, "Erich Kaiser"  wrote:

> Anyone else seeing major issues inside of L3 network?  I am not able to
> get to multiple IPs from several DIA carriers and from several source
> netblocks.
>
> Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower
> er...@northcentraltower.com
> Office: 630-621-4804
> Cell: 630-777-9291
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Translators

[Ty Featherling]

haha!

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> electricity wire wrapped around the anus  produces N thermal power?
>
> It must be true for certain values of N.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 5/24/2016 9:53:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Translators
>
>
> Dong porcelain
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On May 24, 2016 9:52 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>> Here is an edited fragment from a LENR forum I follow.  This was auto
>> translated from Chinese.
>>
>> N Thermal power is the electricity wire wrapped around the anus and in a
>> rural Yao porcelain fence two BU.
>> Bo Fei 3mmm, yeast and electrical wire Xi Bu table
>> Bifurcated end refractory coating water drum E, porcelain long!
>> Dong porcelain l swear village board 34mm
>> heat 'post mounted on a puppet stay warm inside housing puppets stay warm
>> Vladimir swallow Society is oxygen puppet dagger manganese
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Ty Featherling]

Discovery only works on layer 2. You have to switch it to IP mode and just
type in subnets like so "10.10.5.0/24, 10.11.5.0/24, " and so on.



-Ty

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I still need to read up on how to scan subnets, it fails to add anything.
> I have to manually add the device
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I wish they hadn't abandoned it. It is one of the best things about
>> running a ubnt network. I have mine scan my subnets every night so I have
>> monitoring of all radios from the start.
>> On May 17, 2016 12:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> holy dog balls, that was a simple install and simple configuration. UBNT
>>> and beta together always scares me, but this is a slick tool. Chuck M must
>>> have overseen it since it actually works
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:17 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> is the windows server variant heavy?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> nm, i see it now
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> can you point me to where i would get it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ty Featherling <
>>>>>> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a failed
>>>>>>> upgrade from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass firmware updates,
>>>>>>> password changes, and a set number of other configuration changes. The 
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> 2 things I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall updates and viewing
>>>>>>> bridge tables for devices. Great tool for everything else. I installed 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> local beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like it barely does 
>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>> by comparison. If you go the the forums and find the AC2 beta forum, the
>>>>>>> first sticky post is the latest version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Ty
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Ty
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We need to do some mass password changes and verification of the
>>>>>>>> firmware, I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me to the 
>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>> current iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im just fearful 
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> wandering too much on the forum looking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change and
>>>>>>>> add some settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing this
>>>>>>>> (preferably with error checking) assuming that AC2 doesnt do it I would
>>>>>>>> sure appreciate some pointers (that dont assume I am a script magician)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds <
>>>>>>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways,
>>>>>>>>> Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail
>>>>>>>>> polish.
>>>>>>>>> On May 17, 2016 9:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <
>>>>>>>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>&

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Ty Featherling]

I wish they hadn't abandoned it. It is one of the best things about running
a ubnt network. I have mine scan my subnets every night so I have
monitoring of all radios from the start.
On May 17, 2016 12:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> holy dog balls, that was a simple install and simple configuration. UBNT
> and beta together always scares me, but this is a slick tool. Chuck M must
> have overseen it since it actually works
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:17 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> is the windows server variant heavy?
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> nm, i see it now
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> can you point me to where i would get it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ty Featherling <
>>>> tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a failed
>>>>> upgrade from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass firmware updates,
>>>>> password changes, and a set number of other configuration changes. The 
>>>>> only
>>>>> 2 things I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall updates and viewing
>>>>> bridge tables for devices. Great tool for everything else. I installed the
>>>>> local beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like it barely does anything
>>>>> by comparison. If you go the the forums and find the AC2 beta forum, the
>>>>> first sticky post is the latest version.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Ty
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Ty
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We need to do some mass password changes and verification of the
>>>>>> firmware, I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me to the most
>>>>>> current iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im just fearful of
>>>>>> wandering too much on the forum looking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change and add
>>>>>> some settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing this (preferably
>>>>>> with error checking) assuming that AC2 doesnt do it I would sure 
>>>>>> appreciate
>>>>>> some pointers (that dont assume I am a script magician)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways,
>>>>>>> Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail
>>>>>>> polish.
>>>>>>> On May 17, 2016 9:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <
>>>>>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I WILL SEND YOU A BILL!!! (FOR YOUR HATE)))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hah
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>>> *From:* Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:29 AM
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically
>>>>>>>> applied. The forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit
>>>>>>>> indescriminately.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Ty
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Ty Featherling]

Current AC2 is beta 21. I just installed it myself after a failed upgrade
from my old beta 12 install. It will do mass firmware updates, password
changes, and a set number of other configuration changes. The only 2 things
I wish it did that it doesn't are firewall updates and viewing bridge
tables for devices. Great tool for everything else. I installed the local
beta of the new CRM thing and It seems like it barely does anything by
comparison. If you go the the forums and find the AC2 beta forum, the first
sticky post is the latest version.

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:07 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We need to do some mass password changes and verification of the firmware,
> I assume this AC2 does this, can somebody point me to the most current
> iteration of this? We do have the beta access. Im just fearful of wandering
> too much on the forum looking.
>
> Will AC2 let me add configurations en mass? I need to change and add some
> settings, if there is a fairly simple way of doing this (preferably with
> error checking) assuming that AC2 doesnt do it I would sure appreciate some
> pointers (that dont assume I am a script magician)
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways, Dude.
>> You don't wanna know about it, believe me.
>>
>> Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.
>> On May 17, 2016 9:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I WILL SEND YOU A BILL!!! (FOR YOUR HATE)))
>>>
>>> hah
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:29 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>>
>>> We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically applied.
>>> The forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit indescriminately.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All your hate are belong to us.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/17/2016 6:25 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey, we got hate here... I hate it when people complain about our lack
>>>> of hate.  We can hate with the best of them, just choose to reserve it for
>>>> a better time and place...  afmug: higher quality hate
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:21 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>>>
>>>> When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much hate, you
>>>> know that place is a hell-hole.
>>>>
>>>> -Ty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Ty
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of hate,
>>>>> now i remember why i dont ever go there
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular
>>>>>> one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it since i
>>>>>> logged in, im curious what its doing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard <
>>>>>> <mhoward...@gmail.com>mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...unless of course it gets on a PC at the office... in which case
>>>>>>> we'd be in trouble.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mathew Howard <
>>>>>>> <mhoward...@gmail.com>mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> True! but that hasn't happened yet, and it still shouldn't get
>>>>>>>> beyond that customer's radio.
>>>>>>>>
&g

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Ty Featherling]

We're the hatiest! Our hate is refined though, and surgically applied. The
forums are more like monkeys throwing their hate-shit indescriminately.



-Ty

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

> All your hate are belong to us.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 5/17/2016 6:25 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Hey, we got hate here... I hate it when people complain about our lack of
> hate.  We can hate with the best of them, just choose to reserve it for a
> better time and place...  afmug: higher quality hate
>
> *From:* Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:21 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>
> When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much hate, you
> know that place is a hell-hole.
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of hate, now i
>> remember why i dont ever go there
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular
>>> one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it since i
>>> logged in, im curious what its doing
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard < <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...unless of course it gets on a PC at the office... in which case we'd
>>>> be in trouble.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mathew Howard <
>>>> <mhoward...@gmail.com>mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> True! but that hasn't happened yet, and it still shouldn't get beyond
>>>>> that customer's radio.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Mike Hammett < <af...@ics-il.net>
>>>>> af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Until it gets delivered via Flash or Java or something else...   ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" < <mhoward...@gmail.com>mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> *To: *"af" < <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com>
>>>>>> *Sent: *Monday, May 16, 2016 9:16:40 PM
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have firewall rules at the edge of the network blocking the
>>>>>> management ports ti the airrouters that are on public IPs, they're 
>>>>>> probably
>>>>>> fine. We still have some radios that are on old firmware, but   I haven't
>>>>>> been able to find anything on our network that's infected. Fortunately,
>>>>>> when I was setting up the firewall rules to block access to the CPEs from
>>>>>> outside our network, I decided it was desirable to block customers from
>>>>>> being able to get to other customers radios as well... which should break
>>>>>> the self replicating part of this thing, so even if it does somehow get
>>>>>> into our network, it shouldn't be able to get far.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, I'm updating everything that isn't on at least 5.6.2 right
>>&

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware

[Ty Featherling]

When Steve comes back from somewhere complaining of too much hate, you know
that place is a hell-hole.

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> holy nuggets of hate. I just got done reading the 31 pages of hate, now i
> remember why i dont ever go there
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> wow, port 19081 turns out to be pretty popular
>> one im cleaning up now has a child connection active in it since i logged
>> in, im curious what its doing
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ...unless of course it gets on a PC at the office... in which case we'd
>>> be in trouble.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 True! but that hasn't happened yet, and it still shouldn't get beyond
 that customer's radio.

 On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Until it gets delivered via Flash or Java or something else...   ;-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Mathew Howard" 
> *To: *"af" 
> *Sent: *Monday, May 16, 2016 9:16:40 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ubnt malware
>
> If you have firewall rules at the edge of the network blocking the
> management ports ti the airrouters that are on public IPs, they're 
> probably
> fine. We still have some radios that are on old firmware, but   I haven't
> been able to find anything on our network that's infected. Fortunately,
> when I was setting up the firewall rules to block access to the CPEs from
> outside our network, I decided it was desirable to block customers from
> being able to get to other customers radios as well... which should break
> the self replicating part of this thing, so even if it does somehow get
> into our network, it shouldn't be able to get far.
>
> That said, I'm updating everything that isn't on at least 5.6.2 right
> away.
> On May 16, 2016 8:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> yeah, thats amazing me, one fella was complaining about how much of a
> problem it would be to take a unit offline to get on a bench. I would 
> think
> if things are that bad that your network is progressively shutting down,
> convenience would be the least of your concerns.
>
> I have to investigate a couple anomalies on the network, in the back
> of my mind Im hoping the air routers have been hit to put a nail in their
> coffins so we cam go with mikrotiks as the CPE router instead
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> Or threatening to sue because of their own personal ignorance and
>> negligence.
>> On May 16, 2016 8:32 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>>
>>> A good amount of it is just people that don't know any better making
>>> false observations.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Monday, May 16, 2016 8:19:00 PM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] ubnt malware
>>>
>>> From what im reading in their forums something set off over the
>>> weekend? or is it ubnt douche nozzles?
>>>
>>> It sounds almost as if 

Re: [AFMUG] TimeClock for workers

[Ty Featherling]

We use Tsheets.com. Our techs use the app and it GPS tracks them throughout
the day. In-office uses the Web page, no tracking. Imports to quick books
nicely.
On May 15, 2016 2:22 PM,  wrote:

> We use timeforce.  We have had some issues with it entirely related to our
> losing some passwords etc.
> It was working great.
>
> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller 
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 15, 2016 12:49 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] TimeClock for workers
>
>
> An it consulting client I have used an application called timeforce.  It
> is web-based
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Roland Houin" 
> To: "afmug" 
> Subject: [AFMUG] TimeClock for workers
> Date: Sun, May 15, 2016 1:29 PM
>
> what are people using to track time for users (remote & inhouse).
> we're doing it manually now, but I would think there have to be some
> good phone apps.
> it would be nice it if made it easy to import into intuit payroll..
>
> Roland Houin
> Fourway.Net
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One?

[Ty Featherling]

Can you out them in the DMZ behind that radio?
On May 7, 2016 1:30 AM, "Jon Auer"  wrote:

> For game consoles you basically enable UPnP or deal with a bunch of port
> forwarding.
> Xbox One is fairly sane. WiiU literally wants all of UDP forwarded.
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:19 PM, Michael Gawlowski  > wrote:
>
>> Anyone had this issue? The customer is behind a ubiquiti running NAT with
>> the ubiquiti using a public IP behind one of our Mikrotik's. The Mikrotik
>> does not have any ports blocked, either. Any ideas?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Michael Gawlowski
>> Triad Wireless, LLC
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] May the fourth be with you, young Jedi

[Ty Featherling]

Nanu-nanu



-Ty

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 7:32 AM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Live Long and Prosper
> On May 4, 2016 10:06 PM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:
>
>> https://youtu.be/Uj1ykZWtPYI
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

[Ty Featherling]

I'm curious why my traffic isn't' reflecting this. I'll look into routes
and make sure it all looks right. On another note; has anyone been
following this whole Google - Comcast IPv6 kerfluffle?

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Yeah, I think AWS is the last thing that people really care about *not* on
> IPv6.
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 3, 2016 9:11:38 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations
>
> OH REALLY?!?
>
> WOW! *whistles"
>
> SO NOW I KNOW!!! :O
>
>  *grin*
>
> I think one of the last remaining large holdouts is AWS as a whole. (There
> are parts ipv6 enabled, but it's still a mess.)
>
> Other than that, as Service Providers we're probably going to end up
> having at least a rudimentary CGNAT deployment for a decade if not more,
> especially for those of us with large/old industrial/banking/healthcare
> customers...
>
> ... For stuff that should have been retired 20 years ago but is CRITICAL
> to their business, and won't run ipv6.
>
> (For a perfect example of old tech still in use, Google "Compaq laptop
> McLaren" :P )
> On May 3, 2016 8:45 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
> Traffic going IPv6 will bypass NAT end-to-end.
>
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:41:28 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations
>
> To be technical, it's not going to remove NAT on your network for the
> foreseeable future unless when you add IPV6 that you also give everybody a
> public IPV4 as well :P
>
> Maybe a decade from now we'll be able to ditch NAT :(
>
> Yes, there are several v6/v4 and v4/v6 translation mechanisms, but those
> are really just different types of Network Address Translation, regardless
> of if they are officially called that or not.
>
> (Not that you don't know this Mike, I just don't want the nice people
> following along with the list to get the wrong information about the ipv6
> transition.)
> On May 3, 2016 8:35 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
>> Having NAT problems? Having problems tracking down DMCA or subpoena
>> targets? It's impacting your functionality.
>>
>> Moving to IPv6 will also increase performance due to the removal of NAT.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Paul McCall" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:18:33 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations
>>
>> Seth,
>>
>> I think it is pick your battles when you can.  Some of use run at 100%
>> capacity in execution, and we have to carve out additional time to do
>> whatever the "other" things are.  And there are a LOT of those "other"
>> things for growing companies.
>>
>> We all know it's important.  But, if it is so easy, then when it's time
>> to hit it head on as it will being impacting our functionality, we can
>> "easily" take that time, 

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

[Ty Featherling]

Does anyone running a dual-stack network graph their IPv6 internet traffic?
I only have my home traffic to compare to right now but the IPv6 is a
trickle of the IPv4. Until the tipping point happens where enough of the
internet CONTENT has moved to IPv6, then there will not be anything driving
adoption in a real way.

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> To be technical, it's not going to remove NAT on your network for the
> foreseeable future unless when you add IPV6 that you also give everybody a
> public IPV4 as well :P
>
> Maybe a decade from now we'll be able to ditch NAT :(
>
> Yes, there are several v6/v4 and v4/v6 translation mechanisms, but those
> are really just different types of Network Address Translation, regardless
> of if they are officially called that or not.
>
> (Not that you don't know this Mike, I just don't want the nice people
> following along with the list to get the wrong information about the ipv6
> transition.)
> On May 3, 2016 8:35 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
>> Having NAT problems? Having problems tracking down DMCA or subpoena
>> targets? It's impacting your functionality.
>>
>> Moving to IPv6 will also increase performance due to the removal of NAT.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Paul McCall" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:18:33 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations
>>
>> Seth,
>>
>> I think it is pick your battles when you can.  Some of use run at 100%
>> capacity in execution, and we have to carve out additional time to do
>> whatever the "other" things are.  And there are a LOT of those "other"
>> things for growing companies.
>>
>> We all know it's important.  But, if it is so easy, then when it's time
>> to hit it head on as it will being impacting our functionality, we can
>> "easily" take that time, at that time :)
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 12:55 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations
>>
>> On 5/2/16 11:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> > Everyone *SHOULD* be caring about IPv6.
>> >
>>
>> Why people running ISPs refuse to or are resistant to learn about things
>> directly related to the business they claim to be in baffles me.
>>
>> ~Seth
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Towercoverage down?

[Ty Featherling]

Don't they say shorter is better? Or maybe not.

-Ty
On May 2, 2016 4:51 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> isup.me is a lot shorter
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On May 2, 2016 5:45 PM, "Justin Wilson" <li...@mtin.net> wrote:
>
>> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
>>
>> Helps me quite a bit.
>>
>> Justin Wilson
>> j...@mtin.net
>>
>> ---
>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>>
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>>
>> On May 2, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>> Pretty sure they're in Wisper territory, but I don't know if they're a
>> customer or not.
>>
>> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> Prolly using some crappy wisp
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 3:24 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Towercoverage down?
>>
>> Damn.
>>
>> It sounds like they have a lot of connectivity issues for whatever
>> reason. I don't know if it's their office, datacenter, provider(s),
>> etc.
>>
>> Either that, or you guys are just hyper sensitive everytime it doesn't
>> instantly respond. :) Like customers and Netflix/Facebook!
>>
>> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Is towercoverage.com down for anyone else?
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Towercoverage down?

[Ty Featherling]

Thanks Justin, I always forget about that one.

-Ty



-Ty

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Justin Wilson <li...@mtin.net> wrote:

> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
>
> Helps me quite a bit.
>
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
>
> ---
> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>
> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>
> On May 2, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
> Pretty sure they're in Wisper territory, but I don't know if they're a
> customer or not.
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> Prolly using some crappy wisp
>
> -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 3:24 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Towercoverage down?
>
> Damn.
>
> It sounds like they have a lot of connectivity issues for whatever
> reason. I don't know if it's their office, datacenter, provider(s),
> etc.
>
> Either that, or you guys are just hyper sensitive everytime it doesn't
> instantly respond. :) Like customers and Netflix/Facebook!
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Is towercoverage.com down for anyone else?
>
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Towercoverage down?

[Ty Featherling]

Yeah it's back. Was getting a server error for a while there.

-Ty



-Ty

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Just fine for me.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On May 2, 2016 5:21 PM, "Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is towercoverage.com down for anyone else?
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>

[AFMUG] Towercoverage down?

[Ty Featherling]

Is towercoverage.com down for anyone else?


-Ty

Re: [AFMUG] OT: applying to walmart

[Ty Featherling]

Drive for Uber? Or is that not used much around there?

-Ty
On May 1, 2016 8:19 PM, "par...@cyberbroadband.net" <
par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

> How about pizza delivery?
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: applying to walmart
> Date: Sun, May 1, 2016 7:42 PM
>
>
> With the nature of this wisp gig, I have to take on work with a bigger
> outfit that can absorb a short staff. I used to cook at a bar 15 or so
> years ago, so I was talking to this lady this weekend, but we came to an
> agreement id just come in and learn her menu, and be available since they
> cant have me calling in at the last minute cause some grain elevator got
> hit by lightning. A good example, I was out from 10 to 230 last sunday
> night replacing a croaked CTM with a set of syncinjectors, and since I was
> up there i cleaned up the spiderweb of cables. my wisp boss liked that, but
> if i had been scheduled to cook in a kitchen, they would have had to close
> their kitchen early without a cleanup, not really fair to that small
> business either. I dont show up at walmart, they just stock the next day.
> I watch those fuckers stock shelves though, they irritate the hell out of
> me, I watch them push product back to make room for new, and they dont face
> it. Probably best I got too irritated by the application because id end up
> smacking some 19 year old across the face with a brisket
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> I walk at night mostly around downtown ...it clears head...even
>> though I create a myth about my Tecate consumption I don't drink every
>> day..  mostly weekends... I started as a stockboy at Rhodes back in 74...it
>> was kind of fun.  Nothing wrong with stacking it high watching them buy
>> On May 1, 2016 5:23 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ive been looking for a brain dead part time gig to keep me busy during
>>> what would normally be my designated drinking time, so i figured id go
>>> apply at walmart, stock some shelves or something overnight. holy cow, jail
>>> intake is less invasive. I ended up giving up, I just dont have the
>>> patience for that much effort for a minimum wage gig.
>>> what happened to the days when applying for mope work took mope effort?
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Current PTMP wireless players

[Ty Featherling]

How about Bitlomat? Are they still alive?

-Ty
On Apr 29, 2016 9:43 AM, "Jay Weekley"  wrote:

> Doesn't Mikrotik have some gear for that?
>
> Colin Stanners wrote:
>
>>
>> Tranzeo
>>
>> lol.
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2016 9:51 AM, "Adam Moffett"  dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> * Telrad
>>
>> * Baicells
>>
>> * Mimosa
>>
>> * Ubiquiti
>>
>> * Cambium
>>
>> Who else is out there that I'm not thinking of?  Is there anybody
>> else who brings anything interesting to the table?
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question

[Ty Featherling]

Exactly like that.

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> Like transporting the Tribbles to the Klingon ship?
>
> *From:* Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2016 10:49 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question
>
> I thought that was just me! I packaged it up and sent it to my
> competition.
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Chris Wright <ch...@velociter.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Mine started oozing green slime and attempted to perform a blood
>> sacrifice to Gozer on my junior techs!
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Wright
>>
>> Network Administrator
>>
>> Velociter Wireless
>>
>> 209-838-1221 x115 <209-838-1221%20x115>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2016 7:42 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question
>>
>>
>>
>> Mine failed while sitting in a controlled office.  They simply don't turn
>> on or power on.  I use them as cable holders so no one trips over my test
>> cables.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> We stopped selling them, just way to many issues, not working, ports burn
>> out, failures, etc.
>>
>>
>> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 9:33 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question
>>
>> Well I've never bought a Tough Switch so for my own education I would
>> like to know what's wrong with them.
>>
>>
>> On 4/25/2016 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> > *grabs a bucket of popcorn*
>> >
>> > I can list quite a few things wrong with them if you'd really like to
>> know.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 1:22 PM, David <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Get the tough switch 8 ports and POE out
>> >> We like em for small loads
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 04/25/2016 11:58 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> already have that, looking for more poe out.
>> >> i could do a netronix switch, but i like the mikrotiks ;)
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: Josh Luthman
>> >> To: af@afmug.com
>> >> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 11:44 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question
>> >>
>> >> Rb2011
>> >>
>> >> Josh Luthman
>> >> Office: 937-552-2340
>> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> >> 1100 Wayne St
>> >> Suite 1337
>> >> Troy, OH 45373
>> >>
>> >> On Apr 25, 2016 12:42 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> i need something similar to an rb750, but with more ports.  eight
>> ports
>> >>> would be good, 10 would be great.
>> >>> whats out there?
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question

[Ty Featherling]

I thought that was just me! I packaged it up and sent it to my competition.

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Chris Wright  wrote:

> Mine started oozing green slime and attempted to perform a blood sacrifice
> to Gozer on my junior techs!
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Velociter Wireless
>
> 209-838-1221 x115
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2016 7:42 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question
>
>
>
> Mine failed while sitting in a controlled office.  They simply don't turn
> on or power on.  I use them as cable holders so no one trips over my test
> cables.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Dennis Burgess 
> wrote:
>
> We stopped selling them, just way to many issues, not working, ports burn
> out, failures, etc.
>
>
> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 9:33 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question
>
> Well I've never bought a Tough Switch so for my own education I would like
> to know what's wrong with them.
>
>
> On 4/25/2016 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> > *grabs a bucket of popcorn*
> >
> > I can list quite a few things wrong with them if you'd really like to
> know.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 1:22 PM, David  wrote:
>
> >> Get the tough switch 8 ports and POE out
> >> We like em for small loads
> >>
> >>
> >> On 04/25/2016 11:58 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> already have that, looking for more poe out.
> >> i could do a netronix switch, but i like the mikrotiks ;)
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Josh Luthman
> >> To: af@afmug.com
> >> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 11:44 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question
> >>
> >> Rb2011
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >> On Apr 25, 2016 12:42 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"  >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> i need something similar to an rb750, but with more ports.  eight ports
> >>> would be good, 10 would be great.
> >>> whats out there?
> >>>
> >>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Updated Winbox for Mac

[Ty Featherling]

That's too bad. Enjoy Aruba, though! Also, the link didn't work until I
removed the local. subdomain.

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists <
lis...@joshaven.com> wrote:

> Sadly no.  I was in Texas last week and I am back home (Michigan) now for
> 2 weeks… then off to Aruba.  No time.  ;(
>
> I’m gonna try to make it to more events soon though so maybe next time.
> When I found out that I was going to be driving past the MUM just a bit too
> early I was sad…  I hear it’s going to be the biggest US MUM… sounds
> awesome!
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Joshaven Potter
> Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
> supp...@joshaven.com
>
>
>
> On Apr 26, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Awesome, thank you very much. Gonna be at the MUM? I'll buy you a beer.
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists <
> lis...@joshaven.com> wrote:
>
>> I finally got around to releasing version 3.4 of Winbox for Mac for any
>> of you who need it...
>> http://local.joshaven.com/resources/tools/winbox-for-mac/
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Joshaven Potter
>> Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
>> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
>> supp...@joshaven.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Updated Winbox for Mac

[Ty Featherling]

Awesome, thank you very much. Gonna be at the MUM? I'll buy you a beer.

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists <
lis...@joshaven.com> wrote:

> I finally got around to releasing version 3.4 of Winbox for Mac for any of
> you who need it...
> http://local.joshaven.com/resources/tools/winbox-for-mac/
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Joshaven Potter
> Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
> supp...@joshaven.com
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Make a panel

[Ty Featherling]

Great job I'm sure it feels good.

-Ty
On Apr 23, 2016 9:57 AM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Thank you.  I did 95 % of this one.  Alex our panel guy had two tests at
> UTEP he needed to study for so I stepped up.  I am happy it tested
> 100%yay me.
> On Apr 22, 2016 10:18 PM, "Jeremy"  wrote:
>
>> AWESOME WORK!
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Jaime Solorza > > wrote:
>>
>>> Everything thing checked outwe will deliver on Monday Few days
>>> for electricians to connect enclosure to power, grounding and bolting
>>> down...the AC didn't get here on time so installation will be next...the
>>> strobe and Horn work.
>>> Damn loud ...
>>> On Apr 22, 2016 3:34 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Testing...
>>> On Apr 21, 2016 4:01 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Stainless steel enclosure is almost ready.. We cut section at bottom
 for conduit, two 1/2 inch holes on side for Horn and flashing stroke, two
 knock outs for push switches.  Tomorrow we start on ventilation...
 On Apr 21, 2016 3:35 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> OK, now that we have fixed the focus issue, we need more pixels
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza 
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 21, 2016 3:30 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Make a panel
>
> On Apr 21, 2016 12:54 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>
>> Thank you for contacting technical support today. We're happy that we
>> were able to resolve your issue.
>>
>> On 4/21/2016 1:47 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 21, 2016 12:46 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No...let me try
>>> ..
>>> On Apr 21, 2016 12:16 PM, "Bruce Robertson"  wrote:
>>>
 You know about tapping on the image to focus it, right?  :-)



>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: new M-TOW product

[Ty Featherling]

Yes, in fact lightning attraction is thrown in for free!

-Ty
On Apr 12, 2016 9:11 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> Those are to collect the lightning, right?
>
> On 4/12/2016 9:07 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:
>
> Forgot the photo... Hold on to your hats boys. You ain't seen nothing like
> this!
>
> -Ty
> On Apr 12, 2016 9:05 PM, "Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Introducing the all new M-TOW-OVERKILL! Perfect for mounting serious
>> hardware like this 24" omni. Act now, this item will fly off the shelves!
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] OT: new M-TOW product

[Ty Featherling]

Introducing the all new M-TOW-OVERKILL! Perfect for mounting serious
hardware like this 24" omni. Act now, this item will fly off the shelves!

-Ty

Re: [AFMUG] Kodi / http media streams

[Ty Featherling]

One potential new customer mentioned they wanted internet so they could get
a "Jesus Box." Yes she confirmed we heard right. Said you buy the box for
$225 and get HBO, Showtime and all your TV for free. You just have to buy
the box. I laughed. Why do people think they can get a paid service for
free and it's legal? She was convinced. I asked her if she thought HBO knew
about this "service" and she didn't have an answer.

-Ty



-Ty

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:

> Haven’t seen one that gives away Netflix for free … but lots of other
> “grey” content for sure including new movies, live sports etc….
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *James Howard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 6, 2016 11:36 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Kodi / http media streams
>
>
>
> Melzertv.com is another.  A guy we used to do IT work for got one from a
> buddy of his in Canada.  Says he gets Netflix for free on it.  I told him
> that I don’t think Netflix would agree that it’s legal…..
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Paul Stewart
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 06, 2016 10:24 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Kodi / http media streams
>
>
>
>
> http://www.kijiji.ca/v-electronique/gatineau/m8s-tv-box-fully-configured-wireless-mouse/1153242181?null
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf
> Of Micah Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:49 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Kodi / http media streams
>
> Anyone got a link to one?
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:
> > The android based boxes are everywhere here in Canada now … people
> > buying them up like crazy – basically preloaded Android boxes with
> > Kodi and lots of “addons” that allow folks to get lots of questionable
> > content …
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf
> Of Greg Osborn
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:24 AM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Kodi / http media streams
> >
> >
> >
> > If it isn’t a problem now, it will be. The streams aren’t nearly as
> > efficient as Netflix. Programming seems to be lacking in US
> > programming and more focused to Europe and Canada.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf
> Of Josh Reynolds
> > Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 10:23 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Kodi / http media streams
> >
> >
> >
> > Canadian issue :)
> >
> > On Apr 4, 2016 8:47 PM, "Andreas Wiatowski" 
> > wrote:
> >
> > I’m not sure if you run into this in the USA…. But it seems that KODI
> > / XBMC traffic is almost on par with Netflix on our network (About a
> > 100Mbps difference in favour of Netflix.). Are others here seeing
> > this trend? Or is this just a Canadian problem?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> >
> > Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
> >
> > Silo Wireless Inc.
> >
> > 519-449-5656 x-600
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Micah Miller
> Network/Server Administrator
> Network Business Systems, Inc.
> Phone: 309-944-8823
>
> --
>
> *Total Control Panel*
>
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>
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> 
>
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>
> Remove
> 
> amazonses.com from my allow list
>
> *You received this message because the domain amazonses.com
>  is on your allow list.*
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Telescoping mast with gimbel

[Ty Featherling]

Very cool.

-Ty
On Mar 29, 2016 8:33 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> On Mar 29, 2016 7:32 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> My brother designed this for filming his daughters soccer games...the
>> camera can be moved via remote control and viewed on tablet.  Anyways my
>> cousin did the machining.  This one breaks down to 4 feet and fits in a
>> pouch for easy carrying and fits in small car trunks.   He is making me one
>> for site surveys
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

[Ty Featherling]

Yeah I liked the look on both of their faces then. And yes, Josh, better
than Bale. I love those first two movies tremendously but that Batman hasnt
held up well for me. Batfleck embodies the comic version very well.

-Ty
On Mar 26, 2016 9:44 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> That one scene where superman is getting punched in the face and regains
> his strength with each punch was pretty good.
>
> *From:* Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, March 25, 2016 8:49 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
>
>
> I agree on the meandering story line in the first half. Then the
> ass-kicking commences and who cares. Best on-screen portrayal of Batman
> ever though!
>
> -Ty
> On Mar 25, 2016 7:06 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Batman V Superman
>> OK.  Just OK.
>>
>> Not a clear enough story line.
>> Lex Luthor was great.
>> And seeing the beginnings of Wonder Woman was good.
>>
>> Not sure I would recommending paying for it, but certainly good enough to
>> watch on Netflix etc.
>>
>

[AFMUG] Smart solar idea

[Ty Featherling]

http://imgur.com/a/4VlsF

This kid came up with a smart way to increase solar energy capture in a
given area. Using mirrors and a tower arrangement he gains both direct and
reflected energies. Clever.

-Ty

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

[Ty Featherling]

I agree on the meandering story line in the first half. Then the
ass-kicking commences and who cares. Best on-screen portrayal of Batman
ever though!

-Ty
On Mar 25, 2016 7:06 PM,  wrote:

> Batman V Superman
> OK.  Just OK.
>
> Not a clear enough story line.
> Lex Luthor was great.
> And seeing the beginnings of Wonder Woman was good.
>
> Not sure I would recommending paying for it, but certainly good enough to
> watch on Netflix etc.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20C

[Ty Featherling]

There should be a low side and a high side. One transmits at the higher
frequency and the other lower. I found out if you have the low one set to
transmit high it won't work. I can't remember on the ip20 but some ODUs can
be rotated to switch from high to low. That may be what you did when you
rotated that one side.

-Ty

-Ty
On Mar 24, 2016 2:22 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:

> I’m not sure there is a parameter for that in this radio.
>
>
>
> I don’t see anything saying High or Low.
>
>
>
> I just see a tx/rx for each pair of radios in each side.
>
>
>
> Per Ceragon instructions those are the same tx/rx settings for both
> radios, just reversed on the other side.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ty Featherling
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2016 1:18 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20C
>
>
>
> You changed channels, it it still the right unit? High vs low?
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net>
> wrote:
>
> I'm checking, but yet, they should be.
>
> This link was up and working last year, then it was removed off the
> mountain, then this year put back up with one end in a different location
> and under a different FCC license.
>
> So the things that were changed were the tx/rx frequencies (matching send
> for both radios on a side and matching receive, just switched on each end)
> and dBm now on both sides.
>
> Physically on one side we 'rotated' the antenna/mount 180 degrees to make
> it a right handed mount instead of left handed.
> That shouldn't matter, should it?
>
> I don't have management access available externally, or even able to
> connect to the internet at this point in time, or I would.
>
> I could send screen shots I guess.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 12:36 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20C
>
> Are they on the same firmware?
> That caused us a problem where they would not link.
>
> Can you give me remote access?  I could take a quick look and compare to
> one of my links.
>
> Adam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:33 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20C
>
> Hey guys, I am completely stumped at this point.
>
> I've tried three times to get this link working, to even show a brief blip
> of anything showing up on the other side power wise.
>
> I have both radios ON and transmitting at full 24dBm.
>
> I don't see ANYTHING change on the other side of the link.
>
> This is with 3' dishes and about 8 miles out.
>
> All settings on both sides are the same except tx/rx frequencies swapped
> of course.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Is there some magic on/off switch or feature/function that I am
> overlooking on these radios?
>
> GAAAH!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:13 PM
> To: 'af@afmug.com' <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20C
>
> Anyone around today that has configured and aimed these before?
>
> I'm in the web page under Radio Parameters and I'm confused about the TX
> Mute.
>
> Should that be ON to allow the radios to talk? Or OFF?
>
> And I'm unsure on XPIC, I think I have it so it should work, but I only
> have a pair of frequencies, but two actual radios per side of this link.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

[Ty Featherling]

The only question I have for you Daniel, congratulations by the way, is
what is the deal with the capital V in ConVergence? You should get on that
first thing. :)

-Ty



-Ty

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:38 AM, Daniel White  wrote:

> Charles is not part of the day to day operations of ConVergence.  Nor did
> he found/start the company.  He owned a separate company that merged/was
> acquired by (I’m not sure what legally happened) ConVergence.
>
>
>
> Charles was obviously a big part of the company for a long time.  I think
> the stories got crossed/confused a lot back when he was more of the face of
> the organization 10 years ago.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Daniel White
>
> afmu...@gmail.com
>
> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 6:27 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CTI
>
>
>
> Yes agree on brains part... his mum was the $$ person in his
> family according to someone who knew him well.
>
> On Mar 14, 2016 4:02 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
> The story I heard is Charles always portrayed himself as an/the owner but
> never was. That was from someone at CTI. He was a bright guy no matter what
> else was the deal.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:57 PM  wrote:
>
> Pretty sure he was originally.  But there have been plenty of changes
> since then.  I am sure someone will have an authoritative answer.
>
>
>
> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser 
>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 3:55 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CTI
>
> I thought Charles Wu was the owner or main owner. Only met him once in
> Chicago at WISP-NOG back in the Pioneer days and WISPA was just starting up.
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Thought he was the man
>
> On Mar 14, 2016 2:58 PM,  wrote:
>
> Not directly if at all.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza 
>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 2:51 PM
>
> *To:* Animal Farm 
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CTI
>
>
>
> Is Charles Wu still involved?
>
> On Mar 14, 2016 2:46 PM,  wrote:
>
> Not approved by SAF seemed to sell more at one point in time.
>
> That was a funny fiasco.
>
>
>
> *From:* mailto:p...@believewireless.net 
>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 2:41 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CTI
>
>
>
> I thought you would hope he would end up owning SAF! Then everything you
> make could be SAF approved!
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:40 PM,  wrote:
>
> I hope ends up owning the joint.  Nothing against the current owners, but
> someday when they get tired
>
>
>
> *From:* mailto:p...@believewireless.net 
>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 2:39 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CTI
>
>
>
> How many months do you think he'll stay there?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:34 PM,  wrote:
>
> Daniel White is now is now Vice President of Sales at Convergence
> Technologies.
> Congrats Daniel!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>  This
> email is safe. www.avast.com
> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

[Ty Featherling]

Big thanks Mike. I know it is a pain but it is a real help to us that
aren't there. I am making the MUM this year since it is in driving distance
of me. It will be my first industry event.

-Ty



-Ty

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> It does take an inordinate amount of time to do, especially when the
> Internet is so slow.  :-)
>
> It also seems liek the last day is usually packed with vendors releasing
> things throughout the show, cutting down the time we have to talk about
> stuff.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"John Seaman" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, March 18, 2016 9:29:39 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview
>
> Mike thanks for taking the time to produce and post these videos!
>
> John Seaman | Sales | *Trango Systems, Inc. | *
> *+1-858-248-4006 <+1-858-248-4006> *
>  |
> www.trangosys.com 
> *[image: Trango Systems]  *
>
> Upcoming Events:
> Certification Course:
>
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> *
> Trade Shows:* Wisp America March 15-17 Louisville, KY*; IWCE March 23-24,
> Las Vegas, NV (2016); UTC Telecom May 4-5, Denver, CO
>
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> 
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:20 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz-Shnyz6N0
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview

[Ty Featherling]

Great interview. He sounds like he means what he is saying which helps. Not
going to jump to any conclusions but I now know that I want to keep an eye
on their progress.

-Ty



-Ty

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5vNs0roFK4
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] I need a valium

[Ty Featherling]

And say it about this new company now? :/

-Ty



-Ty

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> I thought Patrick bailed on Telrad for a gig with a new chinese LTE
> company? He'll probably disavow anything he ever said about Telrad.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 3/16/2016 1:53 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
>> I'm just wondering whether that quality exists outside of Patrick Leary's
>> imagination. At the moment I don't see it.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] #WISPAmerica2016 IgniteNet @NetworkOnFire Interview

[Ty Featherling]

That VDSL stuff is something I am going to find all kinds of uses for.

-Ty



-Ty

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

> Thanks. Very interesting stuff.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Mike Hammett
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 16. März 2016 15:05
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* [AFMUG] #WISPAmerica2016 IgniteNet @NetworkOnFire Interview
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f__mi9wJTI
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] I need a valium

[Ty Featherling]

Agreed. I wish everyone the best, my expectations are tempered by
experience however. For example, I'm sure Rick will do a wonderful job!

-Ty



-Ty

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Not directing anything at Patrick or Daniel but I guess I am old
> school where folks kept the same job for several years before making a
> switch.  That being saidwith all the advances in technology and new
> opportunities that this market offers, I have no problem with folks trying
> to better their careers.   The hard part is building and keeping
> credibility.  I honestly wish both of them well and hope they can have a
> positive impact on industry and those on the list.
>
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> And say it about this new company now? :/
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought Patrick bailed on Telrad for a gig with a new chinese LTE
>>> company? He'll probably disavow anything he ever said about Telrad.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/16/2016 1:53 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm just wondering whether that quality exists outside of Patrick
>>>> Leary's imagination. At the moment I don't see it.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Centralish Illinois wisps and the tornadoes

[Ty Featherling]

You must be relieved you don't need Steve's help. Dodged a bullet indeed.

-Ty



-Ty

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Micah Miller <mi...@nbson.com> wrote:

> The storm went right through us.  Had a bridge turn and lost a bridge.
> We dodged a bullet.
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > There's a lot of people who are annoying or whiny when they bitch; Steve,
> > you're entertaining and often quite witty... some would say "sassy".
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:16 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> > <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'll bitch the whole time.
> >>
> >> On Mar 15, 2016 10:11 PM, "Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Don't make him help you, he means it!
> >>>
> >>> -Ty
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 15, 2016 8:15 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> >>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> News is makin it out to be bad. I can cut out tommorrow if youre hit
> and
> >>>> your guys are at the fun time drinking event. This is not me being
> nice, I'm
> >>>> still a dick, but a lot of you have guys out of state and I dont want
> you
> >>>> bitching about not having staff or wasting the hotel cost for your
> guys to
> >>>> come back.
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Micah Miller
> Network/Server Administrator
> Network Business Systems, Inc.
> Phone: 309-944-8823
>

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT new product

[Ty Featherling]

Gives you a chance to go over your links with a fine-toothed comb so that
when the FCC comes sniffing around you are ready.

-Ty



-Ty

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> I like the way you think! If anyone comes across any 11ghz links with no
> license, be sure to wait a while before reporting them, so as to do maximum
> damage when they have to shut it down.
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:43 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i meant cannot.
>> Hopefully the jackwagons who will put this nonsense up with no license
>> interfere with a big carrier, but not until theyve moved the crux of their
>> network over to it and have a major outage when they get the cease and
>> desist, even better, hopefully the fines bankrupt them
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Seth Mattinen 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/17/16 7:20 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
 at least they can alter the licensing fees. There goes the neighborhood

>>>
>>>
>>> Get a license? Surely you jest. Every unlicensed and unregistered 3.65
>>> I've come across is a UBNT user. Not that the NN license meant much, but
>>> still. Costs mostly kept the average idiots at bay in part 101.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa Interview

[Ty Featherling]

Good one! I appreciate it.

-Ty
On Mar 18, 2016 6:34 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

> Nice Job Mike.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 3:36 PM
> To: ''Animal Farm''
> Subject: [AFMUG] Mimosa Interview
>
> Mike interviews Jaime of Mimosa Networks.
>
> https://youtu.be/BT03DJ4_4hg
>
> -Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet
> ExchangeThe Brothers WISP
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] I need a valium

[Ty Featherling]

Ditto. Hell, onlist would be fine too. I'm sure many of us would like to
hear your experience.

-Ty



-Ty

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:49 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

>
> I would like to know your complaints as well, please.  Thanks.  (offlist
> is fine)
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Adam Moffett 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 16, 2016 9:30 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] I need a valium
>
> If I may ask John, what were your complaints?
>
>
> On 3/16/2016 10:17 AM, John Woodfield wrote:
>
> I wouldn't touch Telrad again if you paid me. That is a week of my life
> I'll never get back.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> John Woodfield, President
>
> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>
> 410-870-WiFi
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 10:14am
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] I need a valium
>
> Hate being a decision maker sometimes.
> Love the cambium pmp450 roadmap.  I know several people are using pmp450
> in 3.65 and it works.  I also see now that a panel antenna is available
> based on the 450i in 3.65
> I may have fallen in love with lte. Haven't seen the telrad talk yet.
>  Hear the new vendor does lte for roughly what we started our 900 network
> for back in 2004.
> Why would I choose lte over cambium ?
> Would I?  I think the cambium pmp450 (in 3.65) has a better roadmapone
> gig aps by like 2017.
> What if I choose the wrong product?
> Convince me.
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Jeff Broadwick - Lists"  
> To:  
> Subject: [AFMUG] 450M
> Date: Wed, Mar 16, 2016 10:02 AM
>
> 450i is backwards compatible with 450 today.
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
> 312-205-2519 Office
> 574-220-7826 Cell
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>
> On Mar 16, 2016, at 9:36 AM, Brian Sullivan < 
> installe...@foxvalley.net> wrote:
>
> Just like FSK?
>
> On 3/16/2016 7:40 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Backwards compatibility.
>
> With existing 450
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspots and Game Systems

[Ty Featherling]

I travel with my Xbox when I'm gonna be alone. I have used a Mikrotik
running NAT to connect and then authenticate through it. Then I can connect
whatever I like behind it.

-Ty
On Mar 18, 2016 7:07 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> Ah, that makes sense.
> On Mar 18, 2016 7:04 PM, "Steve D"  wrote:
>
>> Gotten fairly frequent when the guests are renting "by the month".
>>  (Construction workers, for example.)  They want to hook up their xbox or
>> whatever.
>>
>> -Steve D
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>>
>>> Just got off the phone with Hotel Management getting one bypassed
>>> through the hotspot authentication.  Apparently people bring their gaming
>>> systems to hotels.  I guess could make up a big laminated sheet with a
>>> Static IP Addresses that's bypassed in the hotspot setup, then they would
>>> have to manually enter that in and it would be bypassed.
>>>
>>> When they called me, the guest had already entered in the hotel WAN IP
>>> into the xbox, (I guess they got it from another device that was connected)
>>> but didn't know the subnet or Gateway.  The initial call was 'Give me the
>>> Gateway address for a guest to use'  before I could figure out what they
>>> were actually trying to do.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/18/2016 6:38 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
>>> Is this something you run into frequently?
>>>
>>> I had no idea this was a thing.
>>> On Mar 18, 2016 6:37 PM, "Nate Burke"  wrote:
>>>
 For those of you doing hotels, or anything with a Hotspot portal page.
 How do you handle people who want to hook up gaming systems? From what I
 understand, you can't open a browser unless it can connect to the 
 network, so it will never be able to click the 'accept' button on the
 proxied webpage.  Do you manually enter in IP Addresses, or bypass MAC's,
 or just outlaw them alltogether?

>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Centralish Illinois wisps and the tornadoes

[Ty Featherling]

Don't make him help you, he means it!

-Ty
On Mar 15, 2016 8:15 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> News is makin it out to be bad. I can cut out tommorrow if youre hit and
> your guys are at the fun time drinking event. This is not me being nice,
> I'm still a dick, but a lot of you have guys out of state and I dont want
> you bitching about not having staff or wasting the hotel cost for your guys
> to come back.
>

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

[Ty Featherling]

Yeah or a peep sight of some kind. Two rings you can line up and look
through. The airfibers have that hoist loop on top. Add another smaller one
on the front top of the dish and there you go.

-Ty
On Mar 15, 2016 6:07 PM, "Jay Weekley"  wrote:

> I wish sectors came with some kind of center line.  Preferably slightly
> raised.
>
> Edward Brooks wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone!  This was enlightening.  I have been using the "Cellular
>> Industry" mindset due to tower construction and I have been trying to stay
>> very accurate as far as azimuths to keep our coverage maps as accurate as
>> possible and to keep from self-interfering with our other towers.
>>
>> -Ed
>>
>> On 3/15/2016 3:57 PM, Jeremy wrote:
>>
>>> We also eyeball it using Google Earth and landmarks.  I can never get a
>>> compass to work reliably enough in the vicinity of the tower.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Josh Reynolds >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> What, you don't just assume the tower is level and use the
>>> notched degree hash marks on the antenna vertical adjustment bolt? :P
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Eric Kuhnke
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> for sector antenna elevation, one of these...
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/iGaging-AngleCube-Digital-Level-Bevel/dp/B002LL0BIC
>>>
>>> If you've planned out coverage with an unusual uptilt or
>>> downtilt due to terrain (or built in electrical downtilt) and
>>> are giving the sector to a 3rd party installer to hang.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Chuck McCown
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I  was working on an electronic version of my accu-aim
>>> scope a few years ago.  I discovered that no matter how
>>> far I extended the flux gate sensor, any tower of decent
>>> size threw it off. Best to use a hand held GPS at the
>>> base of  the the tower and start walking.   After a few
>>> tries you will find the correct heading.  Note some kind
>>> of landmark and aim for that.
>>> Elevation be derived dead on with a cheap digital level.
>>>  If you have the elevation nailed and the heading/bearing
>>> close, you should be able to find it with a bit of sweeping.
>>> *From:* Edward Brooks 
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:46 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment
>>> Anyone!!?? I watch posts about the strangest things go on
>>> in here and not even one reply to a valid question?!
>>>
>>> On 3/10/2016 11:36 AM, Edward Brooks wrote:
>>>
 Over the last year our "low-cost" digital compass has
 degraded to the point of being unreliable and now
 useless.  We have been looking at a few of the obviously
 expensive options, Sunsight AAT-30, 3Z Antena Aligner,
 Multiwave SmartAlign to rent.  That being said we are
 also looking for a less expensive, but more accurate
 than standing in a field looking back at the antenna,
 option to purchase.  What are some of you using to
 accurately align your AP sectors and do initial BH
 deployment?

 Thanks,
 -Ed
 -- Edward Brooks
 /Network Operations Project Manager
 Montana Internet Corporation/
 406-443-3347 

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> Avast logo 
>>
>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>> www.avast.com 
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

[Ty Featherling]

I'll have to try that. We adopted TowerCoverage.com recently.

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> Towercoverage.com actually has a cool "vr" / camera android app for
> alignment that works pretty well.
> On Mar 15, 2016 5:00 PM, "Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ditto. Same for sectors or dishes. Most of the time on Backhauls I can
>> see the other side enough to recognize it through binoculars. If not I use
>> the Google Earth method there too. When done I use my phone to take a photo
>> with the phone pressed against the top rear of the sector so that they are
>> aligned. From the photo you can see where the center is pointing. Some
>> dishes will do the same if there is enough lip to do it.
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We also eyeball it using Google Earth and landmarks.  I can never get a
>>> compass to work reliably enough in the vicinity of the tower.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What, you don't just assume the tower is level and use the notched
>>>> degree hash marks on the antenna vertical adjustment bolt? :P
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> for sector antenna elevation, one of these...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/iGaging-AngleCube-Digital-Level-Bevel/dp/B002LL0BIC
>>>>>
>>>>> If you've planned out coverage with an unusual uptilt or downtilt due
>>>>> to terrain (or built in electrical downtilt) and are giving the sector to 
>>>>> a
>>>>> 3rd party installer to hang.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I  was working on an electronic version of my accu-aim scope a few
>>>>>> years ago.  I discovered that no matter how far I extended the flux gate
>>>>>> sensor, any tower of decent size threw it off.  Best to use a hand held 
>>>>>> GPS
>>>>>> at the base of  the the tower and start walking.   After a few tries you
>>>>>> will find the correct heading.  Note some kind of landmark and aim for
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Elevation be derived dead on with a cheap digital level.  If you have
>>>>>> the elevation nailed and the heading/bearing close, you should be able to
>>>>>> find it with a bit of sweeping.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Edward Brooks <broo...@mt.net>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:46 PM
>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone!!??  I watch posts about the strangest things go on in here
>>>>>> and not even one reply to a valid question?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/10/2016 11:36 AM, Edward Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Over the last year our "low-cost" digital compass has degraded to the
>>>>>> point of being unreliable and now useless.  We have been looking at a few
>>>>>> of the obviously expensive options, Sunsight AAT-30, 3Z Antena Aligner,
>>>>>> Multiwave SmartAlign to rent.  That being said we are also looking for a
>>>>>> less expensive, but more accurate than standing in a field looking back 
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> the antenna, option to purchase.  What are some of you using to 
>>>>>> accurately
>>>>>> align your AP sectors and do initial BH deployment?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> -Ed
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Edward Brooks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Network Operations Project ManagerMontana Internet Corporation*
>>>>>> 406-443-3347
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

[Ty Featherling]

Ditto. Same for sectors or dishes. Most of the time on Backhauls I can see
the other side enough to recognize it through binoculars. If not I use the
Google Earth method there too. When done I use my phone to take a photo
with the phone pressed against the top rear of the sector so that they are
aligned. From the photo you can see where the center is pointing. Some
dishes will do the same if there is enough lip to do it.

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> We also eyeball it using Google Earth and landmarks.  I can never get a
> compass to work reliably enough in the vicinity of the tower.
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> What, you don't just assume the tower is level and use the notched degree
>> hash marks on the antenna vertical adjustment bolt? :P
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> for sector antenna elevation, one of these...
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/iGaging-AngleCube-Digital-Level-Bevel/dp/B002LL0BIC
>>>
>>> If you've planned out coverage with an unusual uptilt or downtilt due to
>>> terrain (or built in electrical downtilt) and are giving the sector to a
>>> 3rd party installer to hang.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 I  was working on an electronic version of my accu-aim scope a few
 years ago.  I discovered that no matter how far I extended the flux gate
 sensor, any tower of decent size threw it off.  Best to use a hand held GPS
 at the base of  the the tower and start walking.   After a few tries you
 will find the correct heading.  Note some kind of landmark and aim for
 that.

 Elevation be derived dead on with a cheap digital level.  If you have
 the elevation nailed and the heading/bearing close, you should be able to
 find it with a bit of sweeping.

 *From:* Edward Brooks 
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:46 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

 Anyone!!??  I watch posts about the strangest things go on in here and
 not even one reply to a valid question?!

 On 3/10/2016 11:36 AM, Edward Brooks wrote:

 Over the last year our "low-cost" digital compass has degraded to the
 point of being unreliable and now useless.  We have been looking at a few
 of the obviously expensive options, Sunsight AAT-30, 3Z Antena Aligner,
 Multiwave SmartAlign to rent.  That being said we are also looking for a
 less expensive, but more accurate than standing in a field looking back at
 the antenna, option to purchase.  What are some of you using to accurately
 align your AP sectors and do initial BH deployment?

 Thanks,
 -Ed
 --
 Edward Brooks

 *Network Operations Project ManagerMontana Internet Corporation*
 406-443-3347




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Re: [AFMUG] this list

[Ty Featherling]

No that's genetics.

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 9:18 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm never happy with anybody, but that's not politics
> On Mar 15, 2016 9:06 AM, "Glen Waldrop"  wrote:
>
>> I’ve been avoiding the list for the most part the past few days.
>>
>> Often I come here to read tech without getting into politics.
>>
>> There have been a few instances where it has gone too far, though I think
>> it was pulled back just in time.
>>
>> Everyone, just take a breath. We’re all on the same side. Those making
>> broad comments for us (media, elected officials, etc) are all FULL OF SHIT.
>> They’re making ratings or getting attention.
>>
>> Aside from a few issues, 90% of us don’t give a crap what each other does
>> as long as it doesn’t involve us. The other 10% will never be happy anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Paul Stewart 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 6:06 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] this list
>>
>>
>> Well said… I love to argue too – meaning all in good fun and often
>> results in good constructive debate…. ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 2:44 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] this list
>>
>>
>>
>> One thing I love about this list, is the diversity of opinion and the
>> ability to discuss religion and politics without any major flame wars.
>>
>>
>>
>> We can spar but when it gets too serous we back off for the most part.  I
>> think most of us respect the beliefs and opinions of those that differ from
>> us.
>>
>>
>>
>> I love to argue.  I will even argue the opposite point of what I believe
>> just for the fun of argument.  And many times I argue tongue in cheek
>> statements.
>>
>>
>>
>> Always meant to have fun, perhaps inform, never meant to browbeat or
>> proselytize or insult.  I hope y’all take it like that.  Apologies to those
>> that have make taken me too seriously.  I am not ashamed of any of my
>> beliefs, but I respect your right to have yours too.  (even though they are
>> wrong... [image: Winking smile])
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] KP 3.65/5 Ghz Sectors

[Ty Featherling]

You can ask Shane - sh...@kpperformance.ca . He should be able to tell you
which brackets are shipping on something.

-Ty
On Mar 14, 2016 7:59 PM, "Brandon Yuchasz" <li...@gogebicrange.net> wrote:

> That’s what I have done as well in the past. I have been avoiding buying
> any more of them because they are such a pain to get into after they are
> mounted. The cambium one is actually quite nice an allen wrench and that’s
> all it takes to swap but they are not available in as many different
> coverages.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 6:26 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] KP 3.65/5 Ghz Sectors
>
>
>
> Someone else will have to comment on that.  I found the best solution was
> to remove the two side bolts and leave the bracket mounted to the pole.
> Then loosen the two on top and swivel the sector up to remove the cover.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Brandon Yuchasz <li...@gogebicrange.net>
> wrote:
>
> Without taking this one to far off track. Did they upgrade all the
> antennas brackets or if we buy one of the epmp5hz are we going to still not
> be able to open the cases when mounted on a tower?
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 5:24 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] KP 3.65/5 Ghz Sectors
>
>
>
> Glad to hear they scrapped that.  I wanted some sort of a seal, but one
> that would slide in and out would be preferable.  Nobody wants to encounter
> a nest the size of one of those boxes at the top of a tower.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I complained about the addition of the cable glands because of the way it
> was implemented. The glands are part of the removable part of the box, not
> the stationary part. As a result to remove that cover on the box you had to
> loosen the cable glands, push enough slack through to allot you to swivel
> out the cover, and then let the cover hang with the cables going through
> it. Hated it. I talked to Shane about it and he said an engineer threw that
> feature in at the last minute and they have since removed them from the
> design. I said just redesign so that the cable glands are stationary at the
> bottom of the box and let the lid close around them. We'll see.
>
>
>
> I am using the dual-5Ghzsectors and have had great results with them. I am
> swapping out 120 that are full with these dual 60s using the same mounts
> and getting more capacity.
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If you have used KP antennas before they have made some marked
> improvements over their old hardware designs.  The bracket is stronger, but
> also sticks out much further, removing the need to disconnect the sector to
> get the rear cover off.  If you are not using UBNT or EPMP, then the cover
> never needs to come off (except to connect the Type-N jumpers initially),
> and the 450 sectors can be mounted to the cover.  Having not done that, I
> am guessing it will be a fairly tight fit.  The grooves are the correct
> size this time, and Rockets fit without modifications (after a slip up in
> manufacturing and testing that we received on our last order).  The EPMP
> adapter also appears to work, although I haven't tried it personally.
>
>
>
> Also, the shielded boxes used to fill up with Wasps, but now they have
> cable glands leading into the AP case.  My only complaint with this new
> improvement was that the shielded connectors do not fit through the gland.
> It's a lesson that I should have learned long ago, but I didn'tso I had
> to cut the ends off, push them through, and then re-terminate them.
>
>
>
> We are only using the 2.4GHz/5GHz combos, and have been happy with their
> performance.  They are a huge antenna, but not as big as two antennas.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
> Inc <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>
> Good afternoon,
>
>
>
> If you have deployed the KP Performance 3.65/5Ghz Dual Sectors, I am
> curious how they are working for you.
>
> Also, if you are, did you have to modify any part of the equipment for
> proper mounting/installations?
>
>
>
> To save tower space, I am cons

Re: [AFMUG] KP 3.65/5 Ghz Sectors

[Ty Featherling]

I complained about the addition of the cable glands because of the way it
was implemented. The glands are part of the removable part of the box, not
the stationary part. As a result to remove that cover on the box you had to
loosen the cable glands, push enough slack through to allot you to swivel
out the cover, and then let the cover hang with the cables going through
it. Hated it. I talked to Shane about it and he said an engineer threw that
feature in at the last minute and they have since removed them from the
design. I said just redesign so that the cable glands are stationary at the
bottom of the box and let the lid close around them. We'll see.

I am using the dual-5Ghzsectors and have had great results with them. I am
swapping out 120 that are full with these dual 60s using the same mounts
and getting more capacity.

-Ty



-Ty

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> If you have used KP antennas before they have made some marked
> improvements over their old hardware designs.  The bracket is stronger, but
> also sticks out much further, removing the need to disconnect the sector to
> get the rear cover off.  If you are not using UBNT or EPMP, then the cover
> never needs to come off (except to connect the Type-N jumpers initially),
> and the 450 sectors can be mounted to the cover.  Having not done that, I
> am guessing it will be a fairly tight fit.  The grooves are the correct
> size this time, and Rockets fit without modifications (after a slip up in
> manufacturing and testing that we received on our last order).  The EPMP
> adapter also appears to work, although I haven't tried it personally.
>
> Also, the shielded boxes used to fill up with Wasps, but now they have
> cable glands leading into the AP case.  My only complaint with this new
> improvement was that the shielded connectors do not fit through the gland.
> It's a lesson that I should have learned long ago, but I didn'tso I had
> to cut the ends off, push them through, and then re-terminate them.
>
> We are only using the 2.4GHz/5GHz combos, and have been happy with their
> performance.  They are a huge antenna, but not as big as two antennas.
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
> Inc  wrote:
>
>> Good afternoon,
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have deployed the KP Performance 3.65/5Ghz Dual Sectors, I am
>> curious how they are working for you.
>>
>> Also, if you are, did you have to modify any part of the equipment for
>> proper mounting/installations?
>>
>>
>>
>> To save tower space, I am considering deploying several but don’t won’t
>> to have performance problems.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: ICI]
>>
>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>
>>
>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones -
>> IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>>
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>>
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>
>

Re: [AFMUG] SFPs on Tower Radios

[Ty Featherling]

You're cracking me up with these Facebook posts Matt.

-Ty
On Mar 11, 2016 8:54 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> Indeed, they'll need SFP+s.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Mathew Howard" 
> *To: *"af" 
> *Sent: *Friday, March 11, 2016 8:51:12 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SFPs on Tower Radios
>
> SFPs may be obsolete before it happens... :P
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 7:26 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> I'm persistent. I gave out a bunch of SFPs a couple years ago to vendors
>> that weren't putting them on their radios. It apparently didn't work as
>> most of them have released completely new products since then without SFPs.
>> I'm at it again. I'll be at it until it happens.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Friday, March 11, 2016 7:23:55 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SFPs on Tower Radios
>>
>>
>> I have been complaining about this for years. I hope you have better luck
>> than I.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 7:18 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-Feature-Requests-and/SFP-port-on-a-radio-kudo-if-you-want-it/idi-p/1391807
>>>
>>> http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-Feature-Requests-and/SFP-Port-in-AF24-AF5/idi-p/613295
>>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Your-Ideas/SFPs/idi-p/41982
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Friday, March 11, 2016 4:54:13 PM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] SFPs on Tower Radios
>>>
>>>
>>> Is Mimosa the only vendor not guilty of engineering and then releasing a
>>> tower radio without SFP interfaces? Seriously, what's wrong with you guys?
>>> This is gross negligence.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] New Book

[Ty Featherling]

Congratulations! How does it feel to be published?

-Ty



-Ty

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> After two years of work and lots of money, it's finally out:
>
> http://jwcapital.com/book/
>
> Today is our formal release date, so it would be helpful for us to get as
> many sales as possible today. :)
>
> Travis
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] xbox one updates

[Ty Featherling]

Amen to that.

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> I really wish this list *wasn't* publicly searchable. There's a lot of
> things we talk about here that I wish those outside of our "circles"
> didn't know about, or weren't privy too.
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:39 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>  wrote:
> > i cannot seem to find any time window referenced from microsoft other
> than
> > night time, I assume its randomized, but would like to see that concrete.
> > anybody have a link to that?
> >
> > not this one though
> > https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/console/system-update-overview
> >
> >
> > The following is enough for me, but this guys a douchbag already
> threatening
> > to cancel service if we dont "fix" our accounting. If this list wasnt
> > publicly searchable I would cut and paste the content of his
> fuckwittery. we
> > are trying to get him to understand our accounting is accurate, because
> this
> > will be an issue every time he goes to sleep
> >
> >
> >
> > How system updates work
> >
> > System updates vary depending on the power mode of your Xbox One console.
> >
> > Instant-On mode
> > All countries outside of the European Union will default to Instant-On
> power
> > mode. One of the features of Instant-On is the ability for your console
> to
> > check for updates on a nightly basis. If an update is available, the
> system
> > will download and install it while you sleep. After installation, the
> > console will need to reboot, which will require full shutdown from sleep
> > mode.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> not just system updates, a single game like fallout 4 can be a 25 to
> 30GB
> >> download.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 11:28 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> so we installed a customer yesterday. hes complaining its not possible
> >>> that he used 20gb overnight since he was asleep
> >>>
> >>> the tech said his xbox one wanted to update and he stopped it, hes
> saying
> >>> he did update it and it was only a 500mb update
> >>>
> >>> he had a consistent 12mb download from around 1130pm to 3 am and again
> >>> from 8 am to 9am this morning
> >>>
> >>> I verified wireless and ethernet counters on his SM (bridge mode) and
> the
> >>> AP, as well as powercode accounting, they all match up
> >>>
> >>> reading about xbox one, it is defaultly in instant on mode outside the
> >>> EU, in that mode all the games on the system update at night, as best
> i can
> >>> tell from reading the update time is randomized somewhere give or take
> some
> >>> hours around 2AM redmond time.
> >>>
> >>> Given the massive size of xbox one updates and his not having had
> >>> internet since he moved here, it seems to me 20gb is not alot, and it
> would
> >>> be inline during that timeframe that it was xbox games (not the system)
> >>> updating as it is designed
> >>>
> >>> am i understanding this xbox one updates system correctly?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
> team
> >>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as
> > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee

[Ty Featherling]

So you are looking for the language towards the complaintant, not the
alleged offender. Got it. Just making sure. I am more than willing to share
the language on our AUP. It was given to me by someone on this list anyway.
I don't have any language either in the other direction.

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 12:28 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> yes, just no dedicated dmca and mitigation policy set yet, we are getting
> more and more of them
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Steve do you have an AUP posted already?
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 9:21 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> how much of this notice can a guy copy and use before google sends a
>>> takedown notice.
>>>
>>> I really want to get our DMCA policy in place just to not have to worry
>>> about being that little company they decide to make an example out of when
>>> they figure out how to nail people on the firesticks
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think we are going to start just following Google's take on DMCA
>>>> notices.  I would like ours to send the customer an email requiring the to
>>>> go to a webpage in the next 7 days or be blocked.  They will then be
>>>> tracked watching a video of sorts that explains why they are watching this
>>>> video.  I would also explain that the company sending the complaint may
>>>> want to settle, but it would be up to the customer to take whatever action
>>>> they deemed appropriate.  Further, I would tell the customer that I would
>>>> not disclose their CPNI without a court order.
>>>>
>>>> This is what they send out
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>>
>>>> And then they forward (Insert company here)'s complaint, in this case
>>>> BMG.
>>>> [image: Inline image 2]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I hit send too quickly. Here's how to NAT your customers to a range of
>>>>> ports.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Firewall/NAT#Carrier-Grade_NAT_.28CGNAT.29_or_NAT444
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Sent: *Monday, March 7, 2016 12:01:07 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps our ticketing systems need an input box where we can copy +
>>>>> paste the ACNS XML into and it files it with the correct customer?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're NATing your customers, you should be NATing them to a
>>>>> particular range so you can track them easier.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee

[Ty Featherling]

Steve do you have an AUP posted already?

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 9:21 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> how much of this notice can a guy copy and use before google sends a
> takedown notice.
>
> I really want to get our DMCA policy in place just to not have to worry
> about being that little company they decide to make an example out of when
> they figure out how to nail people on the firesticks
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>
>> I think we are going to start just following Google's take on DMCA
>> notices.  I would like ours to send the customer an email requiring the to
>> go to a webpage in the next 7 days or be blocked.  They will then be
>> tracked watching a video of sorts that explains why they are watching this
>> video.  I would also explain that the company sending the complaint may
>> want to settle, but it would be up to the customer to take whatever action
>> they deemed appropriate.  Further, I would tell the customer that I would
>> not disclose their CPNI without a court order.
>>
>> This is what they send out
>>
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> And then they forward (Insert company here)'s complaint, in this case BMG.
>> [image: Inline image 2]
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>
>>> I hit send too quickly. Here's how to NAT your customers to a range of
>>> ports.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Firewall/NAT#Carrier-Grade_NAT_.28CGNAT.29_or_NAT444
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Monday, March 7, 2016 12:01:07 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
>>>
>>> Perhaps our ticketing systems need an input box where we can copy +
>>> paste the ACNS XML into and it files it with the correct customer?
>>>
>>> If you're NATing your customers, you should be NATing them to a
>>> particular range so you can track them easier.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Jon Auer" 
>>> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
>>> *Sent: *Monday, March 7, 2016 11:32:01 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee
>>>
>>> I filled out that survey and then realized that most of the burden comes
>>> down to the shi**y state of ticketing systems / backoffice tooling (aside
>>> from not being able to file the registered agent form online).
>>>
>>> Pretty much all the DMCA notices come with ACNS XML. It's easy enough to
>>> parse, open tickets on customers, and handle as automatically or manually
>>> as you want. For a industry-to-industry self-policing mechanism it's pretty
>>> painless.
>>>
>>> The only DMCA notice we've received *without* ACNS XML came from
>>> CitiBank's SOC when one of our shared hosting customers got hacked and was
>>> hosting a phishing page with their logo on it.
>>>
>>> Like most things ISPish the pain comes in the valley between when you
>>> start and have so few customers that it's a novelty/doesn't take too much
>>> time and when you have so many customers/it's enough of a pain that you
>>> automate it.
>>> Of course, when the valley is everything between some guy with like 200
>>> subs and Comcast there's a lot of people feeling the pain, but the pain
>>> shouldn't be there--we should be demanding that our back office
>>> ticketing/billing venders provide ACNS parsing.
>>>
>>> We need to get our collective ducks in a row and manage DMCA well enough
>>> that the rights-holders don't get any more bent out of shape and we end up
>>> 

Re: [AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor

[Ty Featherling]

Dick-move, Steve. ;)

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 9:19 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If it were verifiable that a competitor were the cause of this, whether
> maliciously or as a bybroduct of a security mechanism, is there legal
> recourse for something like this?
>
> I used to have rogue AP detection and mitigation turned on at my house on
> a router connected to an external omni on my roof.. dick move. I would add
> APs to the mitigation list and eventually I would see the sam or similar
> ESSID pop up on a different MAC indicating they got a new router. In
> retrospect, it really wasnt funny.
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> Anyone with a laptop and a Linux live disc also has that feature.  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Rory Conaway" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 8, 2016 9:03:20 AM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor
>>
>> I haven’t seen one on a Ubiquiti AP which is why I asked but when I get
>> back in town next week, I’m going to set it up so I can see how it works.
>> Our Xirrus radios have that feature.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2016 6:02 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor
>>
>>
>>
>> When a deauth is happening, the laptop doing the deauth impersonates the
>> AP, telling the client to disconnect. What I see below doesn't look like a
>> deauth attack.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]
>> [image:
>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]
>> [image:
>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]
>> [image:
>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png] 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]
>> [image:
>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]
>> [image:
>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]
>> [image:
>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"timothy steele" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 8, 2016 6:28:42 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor
>>
>> 04:18:d6:e4:c0:15 Is a ubnt Mac sure you don't own that Mac? In the
>> client list you should see it pop up now and then maybe pop up a fake ap
>> with same said with passphrase ubnt should connect then you can get into
>> the network of who ever is doing it
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016, 7:14 AM Gino Villarini  wrote:
>>
>> are you running 802.11n or airmax?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:44 AM, Rory Conaway 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I’m almost done doing that.  This should be interesting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2016 9:55 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] I might be under attack by a competitor
>>
>>
>>
>> Change your ssid and hide it...
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2016 9:05 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>>
>> Received disassoc from 04:18:d6:e4:c0:15. Reason: Disassociated because
>> sending STA is leaving (or has left) BSS (8).
>>
>> Feb 13 07:17:43 wireless: ath0 STA-TRAFFIC-STAT mac=04:18:d6:e4:c0:15
>> rx_packets=633675 rx_bytes=116857546 tx_packets=2225222 tx_bytes=3041234063
>>
>> Feb 13 07:17:43 wireless: ath0 Expired node:04:18:D6:E4:C0:15
>>
>> Feb 13 07:17:43 hostapd: ath0: STA 04:18:d6:e4:c0:15 IEEE 802.11:

Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?

[Ty Featherling]

You can even add customer labels if you want. Great store.

-Ty



-Ty

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:

> Yeah, lots of price changes.
>
>
>
> I buy most SFP. SFP+ from them now, I like the ease of ordering DDM or
> extra temp rated, or compatibility modded etc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Monday, March 7, 2016 9:32 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs
> S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?
>
>
>
> It looks like Fiberstore dropped their bidi SFP prices - about half what
> they were in December.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:30 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> Fiberstore is apparently cheaper for a lot of the LC to LC cables I just
> ordered. Like half the price of ecablemart.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Monday, March 7, 2016 7:24 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs
> S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?
>
>
>
> Resources, labor cost, industry around it.
>
> Lots of rare earth metals that exist in that region of the world. Low
> labor cost compared to the US.
>
> On Mar 7, 2016 7:57 PM, "David Milholen"  wrote:
>
> My question why isnt America making this kind of stuff?? Why does china
> get all the street cred?
>
> Rant: America has become immersed in how lazy we can be in my opinion.
>
>
>
> On 3/7/2016 5:33 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>
> the one thing that fiberstore does *not* have the best prices on is fiber
> patch cables...  if you're buying a lot of LC-LC, SC-LC, SC-SC duplex 9/125
> for in building cross connects, and patch cables in bulk from 0.2 meters up
> to 30 meters in length, you will see much better prices from
> www.ecablemart.com and other chinese cable vendors.  Also better prices
> for things like SC, LC bulkheads and patch panels.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Erich Kaiser 
> wrote:
>
> We have bought a few dozen 10G and 1G optics and they work great. I am
> impressed with their packaging.   As George said, if you have the time, FS
> is the way to go, although they have been much quicker on turning them
> around lately.
>
>
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
>
> North Central Tower
>
> er...@northcentraltower.com
>
> Office: 630-621-4804
>
> Cell: 630-777-9291
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 4:53 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
> We bought some 20km 1G modules from FS.com. Shipped fast. No problem with
> them. They are identical to the MT modules. So why should I buy from MT for
> 3X the cost? Unless I need it like now, and Baltic has them, then we can
> swing by and pick them up.
>
> On 3/7/2016 3:53 PM, Josh Baird wrote:
>
> I have been buying a lot from Fiberstore.  They have been great, and
> shipping is cheap and fast (somehow).
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>
> I recently just purchased from Fiberstore.com... what is the public
> reception of them? I am still a little hesitant but I'd feel a lot better
> if I was not the only one.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> Same guys? They will take paypal, but then they have to pay for it.
>
>
>
> I don’t like them to pay for PayPal, so I just wire.
>
>
>
> Most times it costs me about $10 vs. their PayPal fee of over $100 dollars.
>
>
>
> I’m nice J
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Monday, March 7, 2016 2:22 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs
> S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?
>
>
>
> I recently got some stuff from China and they took PayPal.
>
> Nice.  No trip to the bank.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sterling Jacobson 
>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2016 2:20 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs
> S-53LC20Dand S-35LC20D?
>
>
>
> Don’t buy those.
>
>
>
> Get same/better units from fiberstore.com.
>
>
>
> In quantity I have a direct company in china I order from also, but you
> must wire transfer funds.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Sam Kirsch
> *Sent:* Monday, March 7, 2016 2:09 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Issues with newest batch of Mikrotik SFPs S-53LC20D
> and S-35LC20D?
>
>
>
> I'm curious if anyone has ordered any newer batches of these products.
> This is the second change we've seen in the case of the SFP.  All the units
> from then newest batch seem to have trouble linking to the FTC Media
> Converter or to 2011s, Cloud Core products seem to link together just fine
> over shorter distances.
>
>
>
> We're wondering if we just happened to get two 10-packs that have gone bad
> or if anyone else has seen any issues with newer 

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

[Ty Featherling]

3 a day is a good balance I think. Even though we do more on occasion, the
sweet spot for us is 3.

-Ty



-Ty

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:52 AM, John Woodfield 
wrote:

> The question is finding the balance. The consensus I've heard is schedule
> three a day. I was hoping the average was more but 3 sounds reasonable.
>
>
>
>
>
> John Woodfield, President
>
> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>
> 410-870-WiFi
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Ben Royer" 
> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 11:43am
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance
>
> The basic thought process is if you pay a technician by the job, they are
> naturally going to work faster, this could have benefits but also
> negatives.  More installs done in a day may equate to more income for your
> company, but the adverse is your quality of install may be negatively
> affected by the expedited work of the technician.  So if someone is saying
> their installer does 5 installs in a day, is this an installer that’s paid
> by the job, doesn’t do grounding, cuts corners, and only has to zip tie a
> radio to an elbow, or is this a guy that’s paid hourly, does site testing,
> explains the install to the customer, installs the radio on a pipe, on a
> tower, using hose clamps and heavy duty brackets, then installs grounding,
> hooks up the customer’s router and XBox, etc.  These two types of internet
> installs can be drastically different, and essentially makes up two
> different business models in our industry.
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>
> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller 
> *Sent:* Friday, March 04, 2016 10:45 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance
>
>
> in the below discussion - what are you thoughts in detail on this?
>
> > way of predicting the amount of time to allow for a job.  The added
> > factor to everyone’s answer that I would think has an effect on the
> > productivity times is who is paying their techs hourly +OT, and who is
> > paying their techs per job?  That to me can have a major factor in
> > jobs per day.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Jay Weekley 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Friday, March 04, 2016 1:48 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance
>
> There does seem to be a disconnect between the office staff and the
> field staff regarding how long something should take.
>
> Ben Royer wrote:
> > Interesting topic of conversation.  We run 1 man crews at our company,
> > and it’s interesting to see this discussion as it’s constantly a topic
> > brought up by both dispatch and the field techs.  The argument is
> > always made that the allotted time frame for a job is not sufficient,
> > IE: jobs always take longer than scheduled.  Scheduling argues that it
> > is, however we need to operate more efficiently while doing the job,
> > IE: get there on time, cut down on chit chat, have all your equipment
> > needed, etc.  The calendar has been setup based on 16 years of
> > experience of doing installs, and it’s an average based time frame.
> > Granted, this time frame was increased when we started doing more
> > grounding, etc. Currently, we allow for 2 hour windows, where we
> > typically schedule a morning job, and and afternoon job, both are
> > installs, then we squeeze in repairs or other onsites after their
> > first morning job, or after their afternoon job, or we schedule two
> > fixes, one install in a day, or other combinations.  It’s a very
> > specific structure that our dispatching department follows.  On
> > average, I’d say our guys complete 2 installs and 1 fix a day, but
> > some guys are a little quicker than others.  Each job is different, so
> > as I am often reminding both the techs and dispatch, there’s no sure
> > way of predicting the amount of time to allow for a job.  The added
> > factor to everyone’s answer that I would think has an effect on the
> > productivity times is who is paying their techs hourly +OT, and who is
> > paying their techs per job?  That to me can have a major factor in
> > jobs per day.
> > Thank you,
> > Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> > Royell Communications, Inc.
> > 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
> > *From:* John Woodfield  >
> > *Sent:* Friday, March 04, 2016 10:56 AM
> > *To:* af@afmug.com >
> > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Installer Performance
> >
> > How many new installs can your guys get done in a day on average with
> > a single-man crew?
> >
> > John Woodfield, President
> >
> > Delmarva WiFi Inc.
> >
> > 410-870-WiFi
> >
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

[Ty Featherling]

Our guys do all of these things save hooking up customer equipment. We draw
the line at connecting the internet to their router. They are paid hourly
too, not by the job.

-Ty



-Ty

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Ben Royer  wrote:

> The basic thought process is if you pay a technician by the job, they are
> naturally going to work faster, this could have benefits but also
> negatives.  More installs done in a day may equate to more income for your
> company, but the adverse is your quality of install may be negatively
> affected by the expedited work of the technician.  So if someone is saying
> their installer does 5 installs in a day, is this an installer that’s paid
> by the job, doesn’t do grounding, cuts corners, and only has to zip tie a
> radio to an elbow, or is this a guy that’s paid hourly, does site testing,
> explains the install to the customer, installs the radio on a pipe, on a
> tower, using hose clamps and heavy duty brackets, then installs grounding,
> hooks up the customer’s router and XBox, etc.  These two types of internet
> installs can be drastically different, and essentially makes up two
> different business models in our industry.
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>
> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller 
> *Sent:* Friday, March 04, 2016 10:45 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance
>
>
> in the below discussion - what are you thoughts in detail on this?
>
> > way of predicting the amount of time to allow for a job.  The added
> > factor to everyone’s answer that I would think has an effect on the
> > productivity times is who is paying their techs hourly +OT, and who is
> > paying their techs per job?  That to me can have a major factor in
> > jobs per day.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Jay Weekley 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Friday, March 04, 2016 1:48 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance
>
> There does seem to be a disconnect between the office staff and the
> field staff regarding how long something should take.
>
> Ben Royer wrote:
> > Interesting topic of conversation.  We run 1 man crews at our company,
> > and it’s interesting to see this discussion as it’s constantly a topic
> > brought up by both dispatch and the field techs.  The argument is
> > always made that the allotted time frame for a job is not sufficient,
> > IE: jobs always take longer than scheduled.  Scheduling argues that it
> > is, however we need to operate more efficiently while doing the job,
> > IE: get there on time, cut down on chit chat, have all your equipment
> > needed, etc.  The calendar has been setup based on 16 years of
> > experience of doing installs, and it’s an average based time frame.
> > Granted, this time frame was increased when we started doing more
> > grounding, etc. Currently, we allow for 2 hour windows, where we
> > typically schedule a morning job, and and afternoon job, both are
> > installs, then we squeeze in repairs or other onsites after their
> > first morning job, or after their afternoon job, or we schedule two
> > fixes, one install in a day, or other combinations.  It’s a very
> > specific structure that our dispatching department follows.  On
> > average, I’d say our guys complete 2 installs and 1 fix a day, but
> > some guys are a little quicker than others.  Each job is different, so
> > as I am often reminding both the techs and dispatch, there’s no sure
> > way of predicting the amount of time to allow for a job.  The added
> > factor to everyone’s answer that I would think has an effect on the
> > productivity times is who is paying their techs hourly +OT, and who is
> > paying their techs per job?  That to me can have a major factor in
> > jobs per day.
> > Thank you,
> > Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> > Royell Communications, Inc.
> > 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
> > *From:* John Woodfield  >
> > *Sent:* Friday, March 04, 2016 10:56 AM
> > *To:* af@afmug.com >
> > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Installer Performance
> >
> > How many new installs can your guys get done in a day on average with
> > a single-man crew?
> >
> > John Woodfield, President
> >
> > Delmarva WiFi Inc.
> >
> > 410-870-WiFi
> >
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

[Ty Featherling]

We have a couple of really experienced guys with good attitudes. Max travel
time is like 40 minutes but we schedule smart and keep installs in the same
area or in a sane path. Again though, most of the time it is 3-4 each. When
needed they both step up and have been known to knock out 6 no problem.

-Ty
On Mar 4, 2016 12:03 PM, "Jay Weekley" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

> One man can do that?
>
> Ty Featherling wrote:
>
>> Our guys can do 4-6 most of the time. We don't always load them that high
>> but when needed they are able to do it.
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com > ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I always hoped for 3.  Most days they delivered.
>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 04, 2016 10:30 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance
>> the calibur now, 1-2 on a good day
>> used to be 3-7 depending on proximity and complexity
>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 10:56 AM, John Woodfield
>> <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz <mailto:john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz>> wrote:
>>
>> How many new installs can your guys get done in a day on
>> average with a single-man crew?
>>
>> John Woodfield, President
>>
>> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>>
>> 410-870-WiFi
>>
>>
>>
>> -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of
>> the team.
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

[Ty Featherling]

Typically it's 3 though.

-Ty



-Ty

On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Our guys can do 4-6 most of the time. We don't always load them that high
> but when needed they are able to do it.
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I always hoped for 3.  Most days they delivered.
>>
>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 04, 2016 10:30 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance
>>
>> the calibur now, 1-2 on a good day
>> used to be 3-7 depending on proximity and complexity
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 10:56 AM, John Woodfield <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How many new installs can your guys get done in a day on average with a
>>> single-man crew?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John Woodfield, President
>>>
>>> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>>>
>>> 410-870-WiFi
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance

[Ty Featherling]

Our guys can do 4-6 most of the time. We don't always load them that high
but when needed they are able to do it.

-Ty



-Ty

On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I always hoped for 3.  Most days they delivered.
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
> *Sent:* Friday, March 04, 2016 10:30 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance
>
> the calibur now, 1-2 on a good day
> used to be 3-7 depending on proximity and complexity
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 10:56 AM, John Woodfield 
> wrote:
>
>> How many new installs can your guys get done in a day on average with a
>> single-man crew?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> John Woodfield, President
>>
>> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>>
>> 410-870-WiFi
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT heroin

[Ty Featherling]

Agreed. I didn't mean to sound so final. We help whenever we feel like we
can. We are much more guarded and much wiser about it. Just try mostly to
be aware what help is enabling and what help is real help.

-Ty



-Ty

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Don’t give up on helping, just be jaded and wise about it.  Don’t give
> them the chance to steal from you.  If they call in sick the day after
> payday, cut them loose.
>
> *From:* Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 03, 2016 7:28 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT heroin
>
> My wife and I tried to help out a friend that was slipping do the dark
> side with painkillers. It ended up costing me a year of drama in my home
> for my family and a finding a bunch of stuff had been stolen from under my
> nose. We parted ways and he was in jail within 6 months for a non-drug
> related charge. It didn't go well. I vowed not to do that to my family
> again. It's true, you can't help them, only enable them. If they are
> actively trying to escape it, they will have to do it alone.
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I have attempted to help a bunch of junkies over the years.  Very few
>> success stories.  If they escape, they do it themselves.  If you hire one,
>> expect they will steal from you and end up back in jail.  Don’t believe a
>> word they say about anything.
>>
>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 02, 2016 11:08 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT heroin
>>
>>
>> So another fella I used to know ODd today. He is the youngest of three
>> brothers, the oldest having croaked out from overdose a few years ago, the
>> middle is on the run after cutting an ankle bracelet for heroin charges and
>> now the mom whom I used to work with gets to put a second son in the dirt.
>> Somewhere between 10 and 20 of the folks I used to run around with are
>> feeding worms now, I quit taking actual count some time ago. I personally
>> don't care about dead junkies, while they're smacked out, they aren't
>> people, just shells of people, a danger to everyone around them I help the
>> few who can be salvaged, I'm selfish in that I won't expose my family, but
>> for example, last year I dropped off a backpack with food toiletries,
>> cigarettes and and blanket to an old friend who was homeless and in some
>> need, but that's as much as I can enable these guys. Is this new? Or am I
>> just hitting an age where the sins of our past begin to catch up?
>>
>> As an industry, in our scope, is there any reaching out we can do? We are
>> in people's homes regularly, is there a link to resources we can provide?
>> Is there any way we can be a part of the solution or are we just to
>> isolated of an industry to do anything?
>>
>> I know it's a pick your battles world, nobody can help everybody, but
>> this is madness, the destruction of so many lives and the collateral damage
>> from one drug is astounding.  Everybody, even homeless junkies are online.
>> Granted our base tends not to be the smack addled youth, but would things
>> like resource links on our websites, or outreach program info in our
>> welcome packs be overstepping our bounds. I'm curious on a personal level
>> because I have no other resource than my job.
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT heroin

[Ty Featherling]

My wife and I tried to help out a friend that was slipping do the dark side
with painkillers. It ended up costing me a year of drama in my home for my
family and a finding a bunch of stuff had been stolen from under my nose.
We parted ways and he was in jail within 6 months for a non-drug related
charge. It didn't go well. I vowed not to do that to my family again. It's
true, you can't help them, only enable them. If they are actively trying to
escape it, they will have to do it alone.

-Ty



-Ty

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I have attempted to help a bunch of junkies over the years.  Very few
> success stories.  If they escape, they do it themselves.  If you hire one,
> expect they will steal from you and end up back in jail.  Don’t believe a
> word they say about anything.
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 02, 2016 11:08 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT heroin
>
>
> So another fella I used to know ODd today. He is the youngest of three
> brothers, the oldest having croaked out from overdose a few years ago, the
> middle is on the run after cutting an ankle bracelet for heroin charges and
> now the mom whom I used to work with gets to put a second son in the dirt.
> Somewhere between 10 and 20 of the folks I used to run around with are
> feeding worms now, I quit taking actual count some time ago. I personally
> don't care about dead junkies, while they're smacked out, they aren't
> people, just shells of people, a danger to everyone around them I help the
> few who can be salvaged, I'm selfish in that I won't expose my family, but
> for example, last year I dropped off a backpack with food toiletries,
> cigarettes and and blanket to an old friend who was homeless and in some
> need, but that's as much as I can enable these guys. Is this new? Or am I
> just hitting an age where the sins of our past begin to catch up?
>
> As an industry, in our scope, is there any reaching out we can do? We are
> in people's homes regularly, is there a link to resources we can provide?
> Is there any way we can be a part of the solution or are we just to
> isolated of an industry to do anything?
>
> I know it's a pick your battles world, nobody can help everybody, but this
> is madness, the destruction of so many lives and the collateral damage from
> one drug is astounding.  Everybody, even homeless junkies are online.
> Granted our base tends not to be the smack addled youth, but would things
> like resource links on our websites, or outreach program info in our
> welcome packs be overstepping our bounds. I'm curious on a personal level
> because I have no other resource than my job.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies

[Ty Featherling]

I'm not saying I don't need a house burned down. ;)

-Ty



-Ty

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:48 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> you need a house burned down? because what im hearing here is you need a
> house burned down.
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> True. Part 101 is like Part 15 in that regard.
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Hardy, Tim <tha...@comsearch.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A part 101 license (other than area-wide licenses or bands that were
>>> auctioned) does not grant “exclusive use” of a frequency at a location.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 11:32 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When did they go up there?  Was it before U-NII-1 was opened up?  Maybe
>>> you can argue that is a separate band, since it wasn’t even available when
>>> they located there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is common for a lease to specify exclusivity on that tower for
>>> certain unlicensed bands, or to contain a non-interference clause.
>>> Apparently the lease doesn’t specify.  Probably the city won’t want to get
>>> involved, that’s why it’s easiest for a site owner to only allow one
>>> unlicensed tenant, or one per band, they don’t want to play Judge Judy in a
>>> technical area they know nothing about.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe show the city a copy of one of your Part 101 licenses showing you
>>> have exclusive use of that frequency at those locations.  Or borrow a 2-way
>>> license from somebody in the area and show the city a copy.  Or find a
>>> cellular or paging company that is on a city structure, look up and make a
>>> copy of their FCC license.  Tell the city this is the paperwork someone
>>> will have if the FCC has granted them exclusive use of spectrum, and of
>>> course the other tenant will not have anything of the kind to show.  Maybe
>>> then turn their WiFi router upside down and show them the Part 15 sticker
>>> so they can understand this is exactly the same rules you and the other
>>> tenant are operating under.  It would be like saying you can’t use WiFi
>>> because your next door neighbor had WiFi first.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s not how unlicensed works.  That’s not how any of this works.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 10:14 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The basic part 15 rule says it all
>>>
>>> On Feb 26, 2016 9:13 AM, "Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> We have a co-tennant on a water tower saying that since they were there
>>> first, they get exclusive use of the entire 5GHz unlicensed band. There
>>> lease warrants no such thing and we told the the FCC doesn't either. Is
>>> there a plain english "for dummies" explanation of Part 15, specifically
>>> regarding interference and co-location? The city is involved and we need to
>>> make this stupid easy to understand.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies

[Ty Featherling]

True. Part 101 is like Part 15 in that regard.

-Ty



-Ty

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Hardy, Tim <tha...@comsearch.com> wrote:

> A part 101 license (other than area-wide licenses or bands that were
> auctioned) does not grant “exclusive use” of a frequency at a location.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 11:32 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies
>
>
>
> When did they go up there?  Was it before U-NII-1 was opened up?  Maybe
> you can argue that is a separate band, since it wasn’t even available when
> they located there.
>
>
>
> It is common for a lease to specify exclusivity on that tower for certain
> unlicensed bands, or to contain a non-interference clause.  Apparently the
> lease doesn’t specify.  Probably the city won’t want to get involved,
> that’s why it’s easiest for a site owner to only allow one unlicensed
> tenant, or one per band, they don’t want to play Judge Judy in a technical
> area they know nothing about.
>
>
>
> Maybe show the city a copy of one of your Part 101 licenses showing you
> have exclusive use of that frequency at those locations.  Or borrow a 2-way
> license from somebody in the area and show the city a copy.  Or find a
> cellular or paging company that is on a city structure, look up and make a
> copy of their FCC license.  Tell the city this is the paperwork someone
> will have if the FCC has granted them exclusive use of spectrum, and of
> course the other tenant will not have anything of the kind to show.  Maybe
> then turn their WiFi router upside down and show them the Part 15 sticker
> so they can understand this is exactly the same rules you and the other
> tenant are operating under.  It would be like saying you can’t use WiFi
> because your next door neighbor had WiFi first.
>
>
>
> That’s not how unlicensed works.  That’s not how any of this works.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 10:14 AM
>
> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies
>
>
>
> The basic part 15 rule says it all
>
> On Feb 26, 2016 9:13 AM, "Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We have a co-tennant on a water tower saying that since they were there
> first, they get exclusive use of the entire 5GHz unlicensed band. There
> lease warrants no such thing and we told the the FCC doesn't either. Is
> there a plain english "for dummies" explanation of Part 15, specifically
> regarding interference and co-location? The city is involved and we need to
> make this stupid easy to understand.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Ty
>

Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies

[Ty Featherling]

We have a copy of their lease and it only states, like ours, that they are
to follow the regulations set forth by the FCC. I like the router
comparison. I may use that one. The guy was being a tool and claiming that
since we showed up his customers are complaining and that we must
discontinue any use in not only the 5GHz band but 3.65 and 2.4 as well
since they operate in those too. Our response was hey we ran spectrum
analysis and stayed well away from existing channel usage but if there is a
real interference issue we would love to work with you to resolve it. That
got nowhere as he was adamant that they were there first so we should pound
sand. He has no case but we are trying to make this a clear-cut and easy to
understand as possible in case the city gets more involved.

-Ty



-Ty

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> When did they go up there?  Was it before U-NII-1 was opened up?  Maybe
> you can argue that is a separate band, since it wasn’t even available when
> they located there.
>
> It is common for a lease to specify exclusivity on that tower for certain
> unlicensed bands, or to contain a non-interference clause.  Apparently the
> lease doesn’t specify.  Probably the city won’t want to get involved,
> that’s why it’s easiest for a site owner to only allow one unlicensed
> tenant, or one per band, they don’t want to play Judge Judy in a technical
> area they know nothing about.
>
> Maybe show the city a copy of one of your Part 101 licenses showing you
> have exclusive use of that frequency at those locations.  Or borrow a 2-way
> license from somebody in the area and show the city a copy.  Or find a
> cellular or paging company that is on a city structure, look up and make a
> copy of their FCC license.  Tell the city this is the paperwork someone
> will have if the FCC has granted them exclusive use of spectrum, and of
> course the other tenant will not have anything of the kind to show.  Maybe
> then turn their WiFi router upside down and show them the Part 15 sticker
> so they can understand this is exactly the same rules you and the other
> tenant are operating under.  It would be like saying you can’t use WiFi
> because your next door neighbor had WiFi first.
>
> That’s not how unlicensed works.  That’s not how any of this works.
>
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2016 10:14 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies
>
>
> The basic part 15 rule says it all
> On Feb 26, 2016 9:13 AM, "Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We have a co-tennant on a water tower saying that since they were there
>> first, they get exclusive use of the entire 5GHz unlicensed band. There
>> lease warrants no such thing and we told the the FCC doesn't either. Is
>> there a plain english "for dummies" explanation of Part 15, specifically
>> regarding interference and co-location? The city is involved and we need to
>> make this stupid easy to understand.
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies

[Ty Featherling]

It does, yes. I may just have to quote from it sparingly and include the
full copy for reference.

-Ty



-Ty

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> The basic part 15 rule says it all
> On Feb 26, 2016 9:13 AM, "Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We have a co-tennant on a water tower saying that since they were there
>> first, they get exclusive use of the entire 5GHz unlicensed band. There
>> lease warrants no such thing and we told the the FCC doesn't either. Is
>> there a plain english "for dummies" explanation of Part 15, specifically
>> regarding interference and co-location? The city is involved and we need to
>> make this stupid easy to understand.
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>

[AFMUG] Unlicensed for dummies

[Ty Featherling]

We have a co-tennant on a water tower saying that since they were there
first, they get exclusive use of the entire 5GHz unlicensed band. There
lease warrants no such thing and we told the the FCC doesn't either. Is
there a plain english "for dummies" explanation of Part 15, specifically
regarding interference and co-location? The city is involved and we need to
make this stupid easy to understand.


-Ty

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz dual polarity omni

[Ty Featherling]

You might like KPPerformance antennas then. They have N-connectors on them.

kpperformance.ca

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Glen Waldrop 
wrote:

> I have and I might again, but I like the N-type connectors when I don’t
> have a radio that mounts to the UBNT antenna.
>
> Most of my small tower radios have a 2.4 and 5 in the same enclosure.
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 12:25 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 5GHz dual polarity omni
>
>
> Why not use the Ubnt?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Feb 23, 2016 1:23 PM, "Glen Waldrop"  wrote:
>
>> The UBNT omni works decently, the ARC 13dBi omni isn’t so great, so
>> anyone tried the Teletronics 5GHz 13dBi omni?
>>
>> Their 2.4GHz omni works great, but I’ve been told that ARC and
>> Teletronics use the same manufacturing plant, so the Teletronics 5GHz 13
>> dBi may have the same “not quite an omni” issues.
>>
>> Any news out there guys?
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 traffic to ff02::1:2

[Ty Featherling]

Cassidy deduced the MAC earlier in the thread. I found that thread in the
switch table to determine which AP it was. I confirmed it was found in the
bridge table of the AP on the WLAN0 interface. From there there isn't an
easy way to trace it to a single radio. I used to log into each radio and
check its bridge table for the MAC but now I run a script to dump all of
the bridge tables to all the radios and grep for the offending mac. Led me
right to the right IP address.

-Ty



-Ty

On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net>
wrote:

> How did you trace that to the customer/port?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ty Featherling
> *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 7:05 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 traffic to ff02::1:2
>
>
>
> Forgot to update: had the customer reboot his router and the traffic
> disappeared. Watching it carefully for a return but good for 24 hrs so far.
>
> -Ty
>
> On Feb 18, 2016 2:33 PM, "David" <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>
> I like this guy!
>
> On 02/18/2016 12:21 PM, Chris Wright wrote:
>
> It just really, REALLY wants everyone to know it exists. Cute little thing.
>
>
>
> Set it on fire.
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Velociter Wireless
>
> 209-838-1221 x115
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Ty Featherling
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2016 10:08 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 traffic to ff02::1:2
>
>
>
> Found the offending customer and looking at their radio I can see the
> actual traffic is about 5Mbps worth but the traffic shaping knocks it down
> to 1.5 before it reaches our network. Makes me think this is more like a
> malfunctioning router than a feature.
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 1 layer 2 network per tower. All APs and CPE bridged to that one broadcast
> domain.
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Cassidy B. Larson <c...@infowest.com>
> wrote:
>
> How big is your layer2 network?  Ideally, with multicast, your switch
> should only be sending it to the hosts that subscribe to that multicast IP.
>
>
>
> > On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > So it's DHCPv6 discovery? Why the hell so much traffic then? If I can
> find the source radio I will definitely turn off multicast. Good idea.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 traffic to ff02::1:2

[Ty Featherling]

Forgot to update: had the customer reboot his router and the traffic
disappeared. Watching it carefully for a return but good for 24 hrs so far.

-Ty
On Feb 18, 2016 2:33 PM, "David" <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:

> I like this guy!
>
>
> On 02/18/2016 12:21 PM, Chris Wright wrote:
>
> It just really, REALLY wants everyone to know it exists. Cute little thing.
>
>
>
> Set it on fire.
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Velociter Wireless
>
> 209-838-1221 x115
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Ty Featherling
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2016 10:08 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 traffic to ff02::1:2
>
>
>
> Found the offending customer and looking at their radio I can see the
> actual traffic is about 5Mbps worth but the traffic shaping knocks it down
> to 1.5 before it reaches our network. Makes me think this is more like a
> malfunctioning router than a feature.
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 1 layer 2 network per tower. All APs and CPE bridged to that one broadcast
> domain.
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Cassidy B. Larson <c...@infowest.com>
> wrote:
>
> How big is your layer2 network?  Ideally, with multicast, your switch
> should only be sending it to the hosts that subscribe to that multicast IP.
>
>
>
> > On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > So it's DHCPv6 discovery? Why the hell so much traffic then? If I can
> find the source radio I will definitely turn off multicast. Good idea.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] kp performance two 5GHz H/V antennas in one radome - review/opinion

[Ty Featherling]

I have used the product as intended. I just took two loaded 120* Rocket M5
APs and ​swapped them for these making it 4 65* APs. Worked just as
advertised and I am looking forward to deploying them at a couple other
busy sites.

-Ty

Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 traffic to ff02::1:2

[Ty Featherling]

Overachiever.

-Ty



-Ty

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Chris Wright <ch...@velociter.net> wrote:

> It just really, REALLY wants everyone to know it exists. Cute little thing.
>
>
>
> Set it on fire.
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Velociter Wireless
>
> 209-838-1221 x115
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ty Featherling
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2016 10:08 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 traffic to ff02::1:2
>
>
>
> Found the offending customer and looking at their radio I can see the
> actual traffic is about 5Mbps worth but the traffic shaping knocks it down
> to 1.5 before it reaches our network. Makes me think this is more like a
> malfunctioning router than a feature.
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
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>
> -Ty
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>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 1 layer 2 network per tower. All APs and CPE bridged to that one broadcast
> domain.
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
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>
>
> -Ty
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>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Cassidy B. Larson <c...@infowest.com>
> wrote:
>
> How big is your layer2 network?  Ideally, with multicast, your switch
> should only be sending it to the hosts that subscribe to that multicast IP.
>
>
>
> > On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > So it's DHCPv6 discovery? Why the hell so much traffic then? If I can
> find the source radio I will definitely turn off multicast. Good idea.
> >
>
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>

Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 traffic to ff02::1:2

[Ty Featherling]

Found the offending customer and looking at their radio I can see the
actual traffic is about 5Mbps worth but the traffic shaping knocks it down
to 1.5 before it reaches our network. Makes me think this is more like a
malfunctioning router than a feature.

-Ty



-Ty

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> 1 layer 2 network per tower. All APs and CPE bridged to that one broadcast
> domain.
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Cassidy B. Larson <c...@infowest.com>
> wrote:
>
>> How big is your layer2 network?  Ideally, with multicast, your switch
>> should only be sending it to the hosts that subscribe to that multicast IP.
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > So it's DHCPv6 discovery? Why the hell so much traffic then? If I can
>> find the source radio I will definitely turn off multicast. Good idea.
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 traffic to ff02::1:2

[Ty Featherling]

1 layer 2 network per tower. All APs and CPE bridged to that one broadcast
domain.

-Ty



-Ty

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Cassidy B. Larson <c...@infowest.com> wrote:

> How big is your layer2 network?  Ideally, with multicast, your switch
> should only be sending it to the hosts that subscribe to that multicast IP.
>
>
> > On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > So it's DHCPv6 discovery? Why the hell so much traffic then? If I can
> find the source radio I will definitely turn off multicast. Good idea.
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 traffic to ff02::1:2

[Ty Featherling]

So it's DHCPv6 discovery? Why the hell so much traffic then? If I can find
the source radio I will definitely turn off multicast. Good idea.

-Ty



-Ty

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Cassidy B. Larson <c...@infowest.com>
wrote:

> Look for the mac: a813.430a.5950 I think. That’s the source MAC, assuming
> I flipped the right bit.  I know the last 8 are right at least.
>
> You could just turn off multicast on his radio or the AP, but his router
> is looking for a DHCP server and sending to that multicast address in
> question.
> If you turn off multicast IPv6 will fail to function as it relies on
> multicast to function.. no more broadcasts! :)
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:46 AM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > A few times now I have noticed all customers in a given broadcast domain
> all seeing download traffic at about 1.5Mbps. My gut reaction is broadcast
> traffic of some sort so I go to Torch on the Mikrotik router at that site.
> What I saw that first time is the same thing I have seen every time since
> and what is shown in the attached image. IPv6 traffic from some IPv6 host's
> link-local address to ff01::1:2 with a rate that matches the traffic I am
> seeing everywhere. I enable IPv6 on that router if it isn't already and
> just add a firewall rule that drops all IPv6 traffic since I am not running
> any on network at this time. But what is it?
> >
> >  It looked to me like an IPv6 broadcast address of some type so I
> googled it and found:
> >
> > FF02::1:2 All DHCPv6 agents (servers and relays) within the link-local
> scope
> >
> > This makes sense since I bet it is coming from a customer's router on
> that segment. Is this device malfunctioning, plugged in backwards, or what?
> How can I use the Mikrotik to narrow down where it it located? There isn't
> a mac-table for IPv6 that I can find.
> >
> > Anyone else seen this?
> >
> >
> > -Ty
> > 
>
>

[AFMUG] IPv6 traffic to ff02::1:2

[Ty Featherling]

A few times now I have noticed all customers in a given broadcast domain
all seeing download traffic at about 1.5Mbps. My gut reaction is broadcast
traffic of some sort so I go to Torch on the Mikrotik router at that site.
What I saw that first time is the same thing I have seen every time since
and what is shown in the attached image. IPv6 traffic from some IPv6 host's
link-local address to ff01::1:2 with a rate that matches the traffic I am
seeing everywhere. I enable IPv6 on that router if it isn't already and
just add a firewall rule that drops all IPv6 traffic since I am not running
any on network at this time. But what is it?

 It looked to me like an IPv6 broadcast address of some type so I googled
it and found:

FF02::1:2 All DHCPv6 agents (servers and relays) within the link-local scope

This makes sense since I bet it is coming from a customer's router on that
segment. Is this device malfunctioning, plugged in backwards, or what? How
can I use the Mikrotik to narrow down where it it located? There isn't a
mac-table for IPv6 that I can find.

Anyone else seen this?


-Ty

Re: [AFMUG] ID this reflector?

[Ty Featherling]

LOL, so no ID on those reflectors?

-Ty



-Ty

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can't help wondering what Tarzan is doing with all those dishes... it
> can't be anything good.
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> where's Jane?
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like Tarzan’s tree house.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 8, 2016 10:25 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ID this reflector?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That's cute.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Trimmed it a bit, must have been filtered.
>>>
>>> On Feb 7, 2016 5:26 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> No picture
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can anyone identify these reflector dishes? This site was covered in
>>> tranzeos the last time I looked but I see an old Ubiquiti AP, an
>>> unidentified panel and those reflectors.
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

[AFMUG] ID this reflector?

[Ty Featherling]

Can anyone identify these reflector dishes? This site was covered in
tranzeos the last time I looked but I see an old Ubiquiti AP, an
unidentified panel and those reflectors.

-Ty

Re: [AFMUG] Cell Phone Gripe

[Ty Featherling]

I adjusted as well. My Palm Treo keyboard was the last keyboard I loved. A
big part of being comfortable with a on-screen keyboard was learning to
trust autocorrect and having a good keyboard that you CAN trust. I likey
Swiftkey on Android. I can bang away and don't often have to make any
corrections. I'm on a Note4 currently.

-Ty



-Ty

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> You get used to it with some practice.  I miss my BlackBerry keyboard as
> well.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 26, 2016 10:31 AM, "Nate Burke"  wrote:
>
>> The Boss got a new Note 5 yesterday.  How do yall live with on screen
>> keyboards?  I tried using it for like 10 minutes and got too frustrated.
>> 80% miss-type, and losing 3/4 of the screen anytime you need to type
>> something (RDP Is almost completely impossible).  Am I just too old to use
>> this technology?  Maybe using it now and then over the coming weeks things
>> will get better, but right now it's STRANGE and DIFFERENT and I DON'T LIKE
>> IT.
>>
>

[AFMUG] Ceragon help

[Ty Featherling]

I'm installing my first Ceragon links, IP20 series to be exact. I have them
up and linked and I am stuck on this idea of Services and Service Points.
Services in this software seem analogous to software bridges. For example
there is a Management service that you are supposed to add service points
to for each interface you want to be able to manage the radios from. I was
able to add Eth1 to that service and then I was able to manage the radios
from the Eth1 on the POE.

Now that they are aligned I tried to traverse the link and was unable to. I
take it that I need another Service with service points on the radio
interfaces as well as the Eth1 on each end to make one big bridge but that
doesn't seem to be working.

Does anyone know how this is to be done?


-Ty

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon help

[Ty Featherling]

Ok do I need to connect both radio 1 and radio 2 on each unit?

-Ty



-Ty

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
wrote:

> Correct. Attach the radio interface to eth1. The newer software has a
> wizard I believe. Otherwise call your seller
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
> > On Jan 21, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Ty Featherling <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm installing my first Ceragon links, IP20 series to be exact. I have
> them up and linked and I am stuck on this idea of Services and Service
> Points. Services in this software seem analogous to software bridges. For
> example there is a Management service that you are supposed to add service
> points to for each interface you want to be able to manage the radios from.
> I was able to add Eth1 to that service and then I was able to manage the
> radios from the Eth1 on the POE.
> >
> > Now that they are aligned I tried to traverse the link and was unable
> to. I take it that I need another Service with service points on the radio
> interfaces as well as the Eth1 on each end to make one big bridge but that
> doesn't seem to be working.
> >
> > Does anyone know how this is to be done?
> >
> >
> > -Ty
>