Re: [Alsa-user] driver found my card, but utils (lib) doesn't
cards: 0 [CMI8738]: CMI8738-MC6 - C-Media CMI8738 C-Media CMI8738 (model 55) at 0xa000, irq 10 arecord -l: arecord: device_list:205: no soundcards found... The last one is sad by all the utils which based on alsa lib. (My application too.) Does anybody know what's the problem? This is just a guess, but did you clean out any leftovers from the previous ALSA install? ~/.asoundrc, /etc/asound.conf, etc. These files could be interfering with the new install. Cheers, Adam. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Need help with asound.conf
For me, hw:0,1 is the SPDIF connector, so I just put this in /etc/asound.conf: defaults.pcm.card 0 defaults.pcm.device 1 What if I need a more generic version of asound.conf so it works without changes on machines where spdif is hw:0,2 ? I'm certainly no expert, but to do this you may need to find the config file in /usr/share/alsa/ that implements dmix (perhaps pcm/dmix.conf) or anything that refers to defaults.pcm.card (or defaults.pcm.dmix.card) and change that to pcm.spdif or whichever device you want to become the default. You can also set this if you want something other than 48kHz: defaults.pcm.dmix.rate 48000 I'm trying to make sense of the files in /usr/share/alsa and extrapolate the language so I can understand the flow and write an entire asound.conf script, but I was thinking there's a simpler way to do this, since the spdif pcm is already pointing to the right device. Changing all references from the default PCM device to the SPDIF device should work, but again, I'm not an expert at this :-) Cheers, Adam. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] a52 plugin: mplayer get A/V-async
When a movie doesn't play, it shows weird behaviour: the video is playing *extremely* slowly, the audio plays just fine for about the first 100 seconds. Then mplayer gets so out of sync that it commits suicide in a way. Here is some output: IIRC mplayer uses the audio as a timing source, so if there are any issues with the audio it throws out the timing of the whole movie. I would suggest trying the A/V sync options to see if you can improve the behaviour at all (-framedrop, -hardframedrop, -mc) Personally I've found ALSA's plugins very difficult to get working reliably across a number of different programs, so the behaviour you describe doesn't surprise me at all. I still can't play mono audio through some programs. Cheers, Adam. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa on a laptop - how to dynamicly assign a card in asoundrc (depending on the cards existence)?
Is it possible to make an pcm/ctl device in asoundrc file that would redirect the output to the correct card/mixer depending on they existence? The algorithm should look more or less like: If default exist: pcm.redir - plughw:default clt.redir - default.Speaker Elsif Xmod exists: pcm.redir - plughw:Xmod ctl.redir - Xmod.PCM Else pcm.redir - default (underneath dmixeddsnooped internal sound card) ctl.redir - card 0 fi Any idea how to write that in the asound file? You could try writing three asoundrc files, one for each card, then write a hotplug script which makes one of the asoundrc files the default when it detects one of the cards being connected/disconnected. The only problem with this is that I think all the ALSA configuration (reading and parsing the config files) is done by each and every program (presumably via alsa-lib.) This means that after the config file changes, you'll need to close and reopen any program using audio for the change to take effect. Cheers, Adam. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Opposite of type multi plugin?
is there a plugin which does the opposite of the multi plugin, i.e. it should duplicate a stream and have multiple slaves (one stream to multiple)? The reason I'd need this: default goes (over some corners) to the softvol plugin, which goes to route which encodes a A52 stream. Now I don't have headphones set up. What I'd like is the following: /-- route - A52 default - ... - softvol - duplicate - \-- hw0,0 Where at hw0,0 my headphones are connected. How is such a setup possible? Couldn't you use the multi plugin for this anyway? If you bound hw0,0 and route in your diagram above to a single four-channel device, then you could bind the incoming stereo signal to both the front and rear speakers of the four channel device, effectively sending the same stereo signal to the two devices. Cheers, Adam. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Soundcard only works every other login
Does anyone know why the interrupt would be assigned only every other boot? Is this an ALSA question or a question for some other group? That sounds more like a BIOS issue - have you upgraded to the latest BIOS? That issue aside there have been messages posted to this list in the past about cards appearing out of order on every boot - check the archives to find out how to give a specific card a specific order. This would at least stop the Intel card taking over if the other one doesn't work. Cheers, Adam. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] help with using rear connector as a separate channel
I seek to use my onboard 4 ch sound in a two stereo setup. so I can connect a headset to the rear speakers. I am using gentoo with kernel 2.6.21-ck2-r1 and the alsa provided in the kernel 1.0.14rc3. You realise this would mean one audio device would play out of the front speakers and a different one out of the rear speakers? i.e. if you're listening to music and you want to put the headset on, you'll need to stop the music, change the audio device, then start the music again... the only way I may hear anything from the line-in/rear connector is when running this: $ aplay -D plug:surround40 sound.wav surround40 is a four-channel device, yes. I tried this in my .asoundrc file: pcm_slave.via4 { ~pcm hw:0 ~channels 4 } pcm.ch12 { ~type dshare ~slave via4 ~ipc_key 47110815 ~ipc_key_add_uid no ~bindings { ~ 0 0 ~ 1 1 ~} } pcm.ch34 { ~type dshare ~slave via4 ~ipc_key 47110816 ~ipc_key_add_uid no ~bindings { ~ 0 2 ~ 1 3 ~ } } This is a complete guess, but does it work if you use surround40 as the slave device? (either in the pcm.ch34 or via4.) I'm guessing the problem lies in that you've got two 2-channel devices, and you're trying to mix them into a single 4-channel device - i.e. ALSA expects four incoming channels from each stream, but you're only delivering two. Presumably you'll need something like this: pcm.ch34 { ... bindings { null 0# Not real code, just illustrating a point null 1 0 2 1 3 } } If you did something like this, you'd be outputting a 4-channel audio stream, with two of the channels as silence. There should be no problems dmixing that. I don't know the correct method for creating some silence channels, but perhaps somewhere here could point that out. Cheers, Adam. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] help with using rear connector as a separate channel
I then tried the lines you suggested, got the same error. in any case I would still want to use the front channels to output music , while using the rear to conduct a phone call simultaneously. What happens if you do something like this: pcm.ch34 { ... bindings { 0 0 0 1 0 2 1 3 } } Granted this will not do what you want (you'll get audio from both devices played through all speakers) but if that *does* work, then all you need to do is to figure out how to create silence channels when you're upmixing to four speakers (I think there's a policy command for something like this.) Cheers, Adam. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] help with using rear connector as a separate channel
could dshare be missing in my alsa? how can I tell which type are avail in the version of alsa I am using? Hang on a minute, why are you using dshare? dshare only gives exclusive access to particular channels - if you use dmix you'll be able to play multiple streams over each audio device. I would advise removing dshare/dmix and setting the slave to be the hardware device, until you figure out settings that work. Then you can add dmix back in, knowing that the rest of your set up is correct. Cheers, Adam. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Two USB sound cards - which is which?
The problem is that I can't tell which is which. Every time the system boots the cards move around. Since they're identical I can't tell them by usbid: athena:/proc/asound# cat card[01]/usbid 0d8c:0001 0d8c:0001 [...] Is there some machine readable way to tell these cards apart? AFAIK each USB device has a unique serial number. lsusb -v should display this, and it's probably available through sysfs. I'm not sure how you could tell ALSA to order devices based on this, but as it's possibly the only way to tell devices apart that's where I'd start. Alternatively you seem to have the devices plugged into the same hub (i.e. two USB ports next to each other.) If you have more ports available on your motherboard, you could try different ports, as putting each device on a different hub *may* ensure the hub numbers are consistent across a restart (but if devices change order, there's a chance that the hubs may change order too.) The unique serial number is definitely the way to go if you can figure out how to get ALSA to use it. (I think udev can, but I don't know that ALSA uses udev.) Cheers, Adam. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Misconfigured Realtek ALC861?
options snd-hda-intel index=0 position_fix=1 model=3stack Are you sure 3stack is the correct model? The problems you list sound like what you'd get you've got one model but the driver is accessing it like another model. I assume you've already tried the other models (especially leaving the model option off completely) with no success? Neither the PCM nor the CD slider affect the volume and the CD mute doesn't mute the audio. Neither does the Headphon mute. OTOH, the Front mute does mute the audio output. The headphone mute should only affect the audio jacks on the front of the PC - if you don't have anything plugged in there you won't notice the headphone mute doing anything. Cheers, Adam. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Misconfigured Realtek ALC861?
Yep. I've even gone ahead and updated the alsa-lib rpm using the one in atrpms-testing and gone back through the various model options, but that didn't change anything. To be specific, the model options I tried were 3stack, 3stack-dig, 6stack-dig, asus, and asus-laptop. Fair enough. According to the source you can also try 3stack-660, uniwill-m31, toshiba and auto. If none of these work it looks like your chip has been hooked up differently and needs another option created. Cheers, Adam. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] ALSA support for toslink
Can ALSA send audio to the analog ports AND the optical/toslink port at the same time? (Or is this a function of the motherboard)? AFAIK most sound cards (especially onboard ones) only have one output stream. This same audio signal is sent to the analogue jacks, the coax SPDIF and the optical SPDIF. The hard part would be getting *different* audio coming out of each connection - that would require a more advanced sound card. Cheers, Adam. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Software volume mixer for S/PDIF output
So my question is: does ALSA support software volume control? The loss of quality (dynamics) is not so important to me in this case, I'd have it almost always on 100% - but would sometimes like to quickly reduce the volume. If it is supported, does it also work when playing back direct AC3 streams? If it can be done: how so? Yes, there is a softvol plugin you can attach to an ALSA device that will create a new mixer control. Anything played through though that device will be adjusted according to the softvol mixer control. I would've thought your card would already have a hardware mixer that supports turning the volume down though, but perhaps not. I imagine you would also need a program like xbindkeys that can run a command when a key is pressed, for example so you can press the mute button on your keyboard to run amixer and get it to set the volume to a low level. It won't work when playing AC3 streams, as the decoding is done inside the amplifier - but presumably whatever program is playing the AC3 stream has a pause button ;-) Cheers, Adam. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] plug refuses to play audio at normal sample rates
Well, as far as I know LADSPA - it's very difficult, if not impossible, to not detect sample rate correctly. Did you look into the plugin source ? I've had a look through it, but I can't see where the code is that does sample rate conversion. Can it be that ALSA calls the plugin initialization routine with wrong sample rate ? Can it be that ALSA calls the plugin initialization routine only once and not on each sample rate change ? Since it works properly with unusual sampling rates (like 60kHz) I don't think it's an ALSA issue. It only fails when using a sampling rate directly supported by the underlying hardware - in that case it still needs to do resampling, but for whatever reason the audio is *not* resampled and playback fails. At some point there is a sample rate check, and instead of checking what sample rates the next *plugin* in the chain supports, the code incorrectly checks what sampling rates the *hardware* supports. The hardware supports four different sample rates, the plugin only supports one - so sometimes the audio isn't being resampled when it should be. Cheers, Adam. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] using two sound cards
For now I'm using one Creative Live for 5+1 watching movies and listen to music. I have one sound card onboard of my PC which I have disabled from BIOS. My question is can I activate the second sound card and for example duplicate all that is played on my front speakers of the primary card and pass it to the output of the second card ? If the answer is yes can you give me some clue how to set it up :) If you don't mind a hardware solution to the problem, and your cards have enough inputs/outputs, you can connect the SPDIF out from one card to the SPDIF in on another card, effectively daisy-chaining the cards together. This would result in the first card's audio output only playing audio from the card itself, and the second card's audio output playing audio from both cards. Most cards these days have internal pins for extra inputs and outputs, so you can connect them together internally without any external loopback cables. I know for a fact the SBLive has three stereo digital outputs (one for the front speakers, one for the rear, and one for the centre/subwoofer) so if you connected the front SPDIF-out to your motherboard's SPDIF-in pins you should have the result you're after. Cheers, Adam. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
[Alsa-user] Can you maintain digital output when no audio is playing?
Hi all, Another (minor) issue I'm having with ALSA is that the digital output is shut down when no sound is playing. When the digital output is shut down, my external amplifier loses sync and displays unlock on its display. The problem with this is that when I play a sound again, it takes a couple of seconds for the amplifier to regain sync, so I'm always missing the first couple of seconds of sound - and notification sounds like incoming e-mails/IMs are as good as silent, as they've finished playing by the time the amplifier syncs again. Is it possible to either have the dmix plugin *not* release the audio device when no sound is being played, or to tell the Intel HDA driver not to shut down the digital output when the audio device has been closed? Thanks, Adam. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] plug refuses to play audio at normal sample rates
Try removing the EQ from the chain. If that does not work revert to the default ALSA config files. That's interesting. If I remove the EQ then everything works as expected. The bug must be in the LADSPA plugin - not detecting sample rates correctly. If I revert to the default ALSA config then I can only open ALSA devices at 48kHz (the dmix freq) so like this *all* sample rates are converted to 48k. Cheers, Adam. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
[Alsa-user] plug refuses to play audio at normal sample rates
Hi everyone, I'm having quite a bit of trouble trying to get dmix working with a LADSPA EQ plugin. I think I've narrowed it down to plug incorrectly detecting sample rates. For example, my sound card (Intel HDA) can play audio at 48000, 96000 and 192000 Hz. When dmix is set to mix at 48000, I can play audio at 48kHz, as well as other rates my sound card doesn't natively support, e.g. 88.2kHz, 100kHz, etc. If I try to play audio at a frequency my card *does* support (e.g. 96kHz), ALSA bombs out with an Invalid argument error. If I change the dmix rate, e.g. to 192000 which I would like, then I am able to play audio at 192kHz, but not 48kHz or 96kHz (I can play audio at 50kHz and 100kHz though.) To me it seems that something in the chain is looking to see what sample rates my sound card is capable of playing, and not bothering to convert audio being played at those sample rates. Unfortunately something in the chain (dmix?) only supports one sample rate, so when the sample rate isn't being converted, playback fails. In other words, when I try to play 96kHz audio ALSA sees my card can play 96kHz audio, so it passes it through unchanged to dmix, which then barfs because it only accepts 48kHz audio. If I play 100kHz audio instead, ALSA sees my card isn't capable of playing that, so it checks to see what rates are supported, dmix returns that only 48kHz is allowed, so ALSA down converts the audio to 48kHz where it plays without any problems. Is there any way to override this behaviour so I can have all audio streams dmixed, even those that have a sample rate natively supported by my sound card? /etc/asound.conf is below. Thanks, Adam. ## Begin ALSA config ## defaults.pcm.dmix.rate 192000 pcm.eq { type ladspa slave.pcm plug:dmix plugins [ { id 1197 input { controls [ -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -10 -20 -15 -10 -10 -10 -10 -10 -3 -2 ] } } ] } pcm.!default { type plug slave.pcm eq } ## End ALSA config ## - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] plug refuses to play audio at normal sample rates
Hi Sergei, Well, I managed to change sample rate by editing as root my /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf file, this line in it: defaults.pcm.dmix_rate 48000 Yes, I have added that line to /etc/asound.conf and it overrides the main one. The problem is, if I set it to 48000 then I can play 48kHz audio, but not 96kHz or 192kHz. If I set to to 96000 then I can play 96kHz audio but not 48k or 192k. If I set it to 192000 then I can play 192k but not 48k or 96k. I would like to be able to play 48k, 96k *and* 192k at the same time! Whatever it is set to, I can always play unusual rates like 49kHz, 50kHz, 51kHz, etc. The fact that HDA_INTEL cards mixers do not have sample rate control is a bug IMO - because, say, M-Audio Revolution mixer _does_ have such a mixer control. Are you sure this isn't just a limitation of the hardware? I know this used to work fine on my old SB Audigy, but I didn't have to use dmix on that because the hardware supported mixing. Cheers, Adam. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] plug refuses to play audio at normal sample rates
I would like to be able to play 48k, 96k *and* 192k at the same time! I have ALC883: http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/productsView.aspx?Langid=1PFid=28Level=5Conn=4ProdID=44 : ... All DACs support 44.1k/48k/96k/192kHz sample rate All ADCs support 44.1k/48k/96kHz sample rate ... . So, I am sure that HW supports these rates to the extent I can be sure Realtek is not cheating on the above page. Oh the hardware is capable of playing those sample rates, but dmix doesn't seem to be able to mix those rates together. If I remove dmix then I can play any sample rate without any problems, but of course I can only play one sound at a time. As soon as I enable dmix, I can't play audio at certain sampling rates. Cheers, Adam. (sorry, forgot to CC the list) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] plug refuses to play audio at normal sample rates
As soon as I enable dmix, I can't play audio at certain sampling rates. What about if you run Jack at 192khtz then all other sample rates would be upsampled to 192k (I presume) and therefor all play back at the same time. I haven't tried Jack, I'll have to look into it - but with the current config everything *is* upsampled to 192kHz, except 48kHz and 96kHz. 48.1kHz is fine, as is 95.9kHz, just those precise frequencies that are natively supported by my card aren't upsampled, leading me to believe there's a bug in the samplerate conversion code somewhere. Cheers, Adam. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to find an audio port (1) for channel 1
ALSA lib pcm_ladspa.c:1283:(snd_pcm_ladspa_parse_ioconfig) Unable to find an audio port (1) for channel 1 It means that the used LADSPA plugin has no second audio port. When you say no second audio port is that different to processing a stereo signal? Because it was my understanding that the LADSPA plugin only processed one channel of sound, and ALSA duplicated this so that if you had a stereo sound there would be two instances of the LADSPA plugin running (I think this is what policy duplicate is for.) You can see this problem by adding this to /etc/asound.conf: pcm.test { type ladspa; slave.pcm plughw:0,0 path /usr/local/lib/ladspa playback_plugins { 0 { label delay_5s policy duplicate input { controls [ 0.8 0.3 ] } } } } If you then do something like aplay stereo.wav -Dplug:test you'll only get one channel from stereo.wav out of both speakers. Running speaker-test -c2 -Dplug:test only plays the front right audio out of both front speakers. Cheers, Adam. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to find an audio port (1) for channel 1
The attached patch fixes this bug. Brilliant! The LADSPA EQ is now in stereo again! Thanks for tracking this down and fixing it! Cheers, Adam. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to install soundcard
In dmesg I get the error message Yamaha DS-XG PCI: probe of :03:06.0 failed with error -16 Not sure what error -16 is, but I'm guessing it's something like device not found or similar. 177: 0 IO-APIC-level uhci_hcd:usb2 0/0 which I suppose would mean a conflict? But I tried disabling USB in the BIOS and after that the soundcard still had IRQ177 but there was no entry for 177 in /proc/interrupts. Multiple PCI devices can share the same interrupt, so there's no conflict. Does someone have an idea what I could try that might help? Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.9rc2 (Thu Mar 24 10:33:39 2005 UTC). What kernel version are you using? I'd suggest upgrading to the latest kernel which should include the newest ALSA drivers - you might have more success with these. Cheers, Adam. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] ALSA OSS emulation (was: Alsa-user digest, Vol 1 #2895 - 12 msgs)
At present, I don't have an ALSA config file -- I'm using the stock configuration under Debian. I suspect in this case that the ALSA default is just to map the first two channels to /dev/dsp0. The Delta44 card appears to be recognized with channels 1 and 2 mapping to the left and right channels of /dev/audio. Assuming the OSS emulation does map more than one card, I assume you've tried /dev/dsp1? You may need to make the device file by hand. If that doesn't work, have a look at the OSS emulation page here: http://alsa.opensrc.org/OssEmulation It looks like aoss is what you want, as it can pass a /dev/dsp device to an ALSA PCM device. This means all you should have to do is create four PCM devices in asound.conf (or possibly two stereo devices) that each access only one channel of the card, and then use aoss to map each of these to a /dev/dsp device. I tried playing with an .alsarc file (I think that is the proper name) some time ago, but could never get it to work so gave up and have lived with the two-channel limit until now. I've been using /etc/asound.conf so my changes are global, but yes, it's the same thing. Cheers, Adam. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed
I'll try to deliver it on Sunday evening in terms of GMT+2 timezone. Excellent! First a childish question: are you sure the speakers are in phase ? Yes, I can't stand out of phase speakers (at least by 180 degrees) so I'm sure that's not the problem. Given that the speakers aren't equidistant from my listening position there's probably a very small phase difference, but it doesn't affect my reason for wanting an EQ. A similar childish question - if your speakers are (bi or tri)amped, do the woofer/midwoofer/tweeter channels have correct phase ? They're only relatively cheap speakers, so no, everything is in phase. The problem is that my hearing seems to be particularly sensitive to mid-range frequencies, and so I prefer having these frequencies dampened a little. Cheers, Adam. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed
incidentally, I used to work with LADSPA equalizer plugin, and I have a natively stereo version. Furthermore, my code is written as Perl/C combination, so with a flip of your fingers you can actually get whatever number of channels. That sounds interesting... I think the problem is that the EQ plugin I'm using is only a single channel, and the ALSA LADSPA plugin no longer duplicates it once for each input/output channel. The plugin is optimized in a sense that mutual for all channels things are coded only once. Nice... If you (and the list) are interested, I can publish the plugin and related tools - the ones that convert Perl/C mixture into pure C. Oh yes, I'm definitely interested! That sounds like exactly what I'm after! Cheers, Adam. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Keeping multiple cards in sync
Is there some way to test the cards and measure their frequency? If so, you could do a pretty full-blown NTP for sound cards and that would be pretty freakin cool. I know when programming the old SoundBlaster 16 cards they would trigger an interrupt when they switched output buffers (so you could fill up the next buffer with data ready to be played), so presumably you could use something like this to accurately time how long it takes to play a sound, which should allow you to measure the frequency. I would've thought though that if you had a software buffer of X milliseconds, then you should be sending that buffer to the card every X milliseconds (according to some other timer in the system.) If it takes longer before the card is ready for the next buffer then you need to drop some samples before sending the buffer to the card, and if the card wants the next buffer sooner than X milliseconds after the last one you'll need to add some samples. Sure, it wouldn't be audiophile-level quality, but it'd be enough for anyone who's happy with a couple of $10 sound cards in their system... Cheers, Adam. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Need help mapping Alsa to OSS devices (3rd try)
The way things are working now, I am only able to use two of the four input channels with this program; it sees them as a single stereo device, but doesn't see the other two channels at all. So these are four mono ins/outs? Can you post the relevant sections of your ALSA config file showing how this is already configured? Presumably you could just copy that config to create another stereo DSP device. Cheers, Adam. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
[Alsa-user] Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed
Hi all, What does this error mean? aplay: pcm_plug.c:384: snd_pcm_plug_change_channels: Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed. Aborted by signal Aborted... ALSA lib pcm_plug.c:68:(snd_pcm_plug_close) plug slaves mismatch Just when I think I'm about to solve my problem, I always seem to get this coming up - even using a configuration that worked with an old version of ALSA. Any ideas what it means? Thanks, Adam. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed
What are you trying to do? I'm still trying to get stereo output when passing the sound through a LADSPA plugin (which in the latest version of ALSA converts any incoming stereo source into mono.) My current idea is to create a multi-card device, with the two combined sound cards being both on the same physical card. Then I can feed one card through LADSPA giving one mono signal, and the other card though LADSPA giving a second mono signal, and then I can hopefully route the two mono signals out the left and right speakers giving me a stereo signal that has passed through LADSPA. It just seems that if you connect things in a certain way (particularly with the ALSA ladspa plugin) I get all these weird assertion failures - so I was hoping that if I knew why they were happening it might help me figure out a way around them. Thanks, Adam. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed
Well AFAICT that assert is saying that the slave of a route plugin can't have a non-linear format. That's what I thought - given that the slave is the LADSPA plugin, I assumed I'd somehow have to convert it to linear format before passing it to LADSPA - but I can't find any docs about how to do that :-( Cheers, Adam. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
[Alsa-user] Unable to find an audio port (1) for channel 1
Aha, well now I think I might be tracking down why stereo output via LADSPA isn't working. If I change policy duplicate in the LADSPA PCM definition to policy none then suddenly ALSA starts paying attention to all the 'bindings' definitions, and if I do this: ... input { bindings { 0 0 1 1 } } ... Then it complains: ALSA lib pcm_ladspa.c:1283:(snd_pcm_ladspa_parse_ioconfig) Unable to find an audio port (1) for channel 1 aplay: main:547: audio open error: Invalid argument So what does this mean? It looks like solving this problem will fix the mono-only LADSPA output problem. Thanks, Adam. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed
For stereo sound reproduction through speakers it is absolutely crucial to have consistent and STABLE phase relationship between the channels. Good point, but to be honest I'd rather have out of phase stereo compared to the mono sound I have at the moment ;-) Data is written to the two cards at different moments of time - because they are two cards, not one card. And the time difference is random - it depends on PCI activity, interrupts, memory refresh, etc. So, unless you have HW means to synchronize sound in the two cards, the results might be bad anyway. In this case it won't be a problem because it's the same physical card - card #0 is hw:0,0 and card #1 is hw:0,0 with the card doing hardware mixing to get the stereo signal. Unfortunately it all seems fine until I try the type multi definition, upon which all I get is silence :-( Cheers, Adam. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Keeping multiple cards in sync (was: Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed)
It might be even worse. The cards most likely have independent clock generators. In such a case, there will be (slightly) different playback speed of left and right channels. I've always wondered about this. Fair enough that two cards would play back sound at slightly different speeds, but why can't you just drop a sample or two every few milliseconds or so, to keep the sound roughly in sync? Cheers, Adam. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed
Wait, so you're just trying to work around a bug in the LADSPA plugin? Well, yes. *blushes* Why not just try to get that fixed? Primarily because I've got absolutely no idea where to start looking, and I was hoping that this would be a quicker solution. Looks like perhaps it wasn't ;-) Maybe I should take a look at the source...only I fear it's going to take me rather a long time just to work out how it all fits together... Cheers, Adam. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed
Can you explain what you are trying to accomplish starting from the beginning? Okay, well starting from the very beginning... - I want 5.1 channel output from my sound card. All the time. - This means that when I play stereo sound I want it routed to the front two speakers as well as the rear two speakers. I also want the low frequencies from both input channels routed to the subwoofer channel. - When I play mono sound, I want it routed to in the same way as stereo - front and rear speakers, and subwoofer. - When I play 5.1 sound, I want it routed to each correct channel (i.e. I don't want the front speakers duplicated out the back, which the 'duplicate front' mixer control does.) This is relatively simple, but the difficulty arises because I also want every single channel routed via a single LADSPA plugin before it gets to the speakers. This is an equaliser plugin, which boosts specific frequencies that my external amplifier seems to lack. I used to have this working with stereo, but I was having some trouble getting the routing correct with my old ALSA version (1.0rc2 or something.) I upgraded to 1.0.11rc1, however the routing then went haywire - which I then discovered was because the LADSPA plugin converted everything to mono (or rather stereo with the same signal in both channels.) My intent was to get LADSPA going again with stereo, which would allow me to resume my quest to get 5.1 sound working too. Hopefully this gives you some idea where I'm coming from! Thanks, Adam. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] nForce2 rear device
which works, but blocks the whole device. Should I hope for better ? Probably not, since the card doesn't do hardware mixing I suspect you can either play a single stereo source or a single 6-channel source. You could look into dmix, which should allow you to open the front and rear PCMs at the same time, and dmix would mix them into a single 6-channel source. Of course thanks to the wonderful ALSA configuration format this is easier said than done ;-) Cheers, Adam. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user