Re: Do you use this library
As long as we are talking about HW vs SW compression, I should say that we've installed pigz, a parallelized version of gzip, on some of our systems with good result. If you have a system that will support it and SW compression is running long you might want to test it out. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 05:19:44PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, August 24, 2011 05:13:46 PM McGraw, Robert P did opine: Gene, Thanks for your information. I tried the gzip way but it took too long on my backup server. My iron here is beginning to took toward collecting SS one day, but it was good when I built it from boxes of parts about 4 years ago. Quad core Phenom running at 2.1Ghz, 4Gb of DDR2 ram. Today that isn't much to brag about. A typical run here grabs 2 boxes for 36 DLE's, and is done in a long hour most nights, backing up a bit less than 30Gb most runs. To vtapes on a 1Tb drive. With my old LTO2 drive I took 90% of the compressed value and used that as the length. With device-property LEOM true and part_size 40GB, I was getting close to filling my tapes to 100%. If I ever get a faster backup server I will retry the gizp way again. Thanks again, No problem Robert, but I did need to emphasize the 'price' of the trade offs. ;-) Robert -Original Message- From: owner-amanda-us...@amanda.org [mailto:owner-amanda-us...@amanda.org] On Behalf Of gene heskett Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:43 AM To: amanda-users@amanda.org Subject: Re: Do you use this library On Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:17:33 AM McGraw, Robert P did opine: JF, Recently you sent me your tapetype for an lto4 drive. I have a question about the length parameter. An lto-4 tape has a non-compress length of ~800GB and in compress about double. I know these are max values. In you answer below you have length set to ~772GB. If I am going to run in compress mode so should the length value be double or ~1.4TB. You cannot double compress in normal practice. Feeding a highly compressed file to the lightning fast compression methods used in tape drives will often result in the file growing larger by many percentage points. Gzip can generally beat the tape drives at their own game, albeit at the expense of cpu time to do it right. There are also pretty valid arguments against using the drives compression as it isolates the backup program, preventing it, regardless of the name of the program in question, from keeping track of how much of the tape has been used since the best the programs can do is count the bytes sent down the cable to the drive. If the drive is massaging the data, shrinking or expending it, then the program has no real clue when the tape is full till the drive reports EOT. Because of these considerations, it is pretty universal here that the recommendation is to turn off the drives compressor and let software methods do the data smunching. Then amanda, or any another other program that does track the tape capacity, will then know how much of the tape has been used. This can be very difficult to actually do for those tape formats, most of them, that record the compressor's state in a hidden header file we never see. DDS is one such format where you will have to write a script that: dd reads the first block of the tape out to a file, then mtx re-winds the tape, then mtx turns off the drives compressor, then dd re-writes the first block of the tape with the saved file All without ejecting the tape or going through a tape recognition cycle as most drives do for a freshly inserted tape, and which would turn the compression back on despite your wishes. Only a similar operation will actually turn it of for most drives today if it has ever been turned on and the tape written to. You can of course ignore this advice Robert. Thanks Robert [...] Cheers, gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) He's dead, Jim. Cheers, gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The covers of this book are too far apart. -- Book review by Ambrose Bierce. --- Brian R Cuttler brian.cutt...@wadsworth.org Computer Systems Support(v) 518 486-1697 Wadsworth Center(f) 518 473-6384 NYS Department of HealthHelp Desk 518 473-0773 IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential or sensitive information which is, or may be, legally privileged or otherwise protected by law from further disclosure. It is intended only
Re: Do you use this library
On Thursday, August 25, 2011 09:17:04 AM Brian Cuttler did opine: As long as we are talking about HW vs SW compression, I should say that we've installed pigz, a parallelized version of gzip, on some of our systems with good result. If you have a system that will support it and SW compression is running long you might want to test it out. That could be handy if it is easily configured to be used, which I have not investigated. Making amanda use its parallelism might be a challenging project however. Another compressor also comes to mind where much of the data being compressed is in a common format. I have a 220 megabyte file here which contains the src trees of every linux kernel released from 1.0 to about 2.6.37, which was done by and can be unpacked if the disk space is available, by lrzip, the lr meaning long range as it finds and removes the redundancies in a tree of data like that archive has. I would suspect that speed is not one of its strong points, but you have to be impressed by that compression ratio, as that is probably more than 15Gb of data unpacked. This was done by (IIRC) Con Kovilas who also maintains the bfs (brain fuck scheduler) patches for the linux kernel, and which I have been running here for several months. It brings a whole new feel to the users desktop experience, unless I see the cpu usages all fired up when amanda is running in the gkrellm panel, I am not aware that amanda has fired up, which usually results in me being virtually locked out of the system by amanda's running, instead remaining quite usable in spite of a session of gzip -best showing 98% cpu on one or another of the 4 cores. The difference between the usual cfs scheduler and the bfs version is quite impressive to me. No, I am not building these kernels, I get them from the PCLos 2011 repo, which is what I am running on this machine. Cheers, gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://204.111.67.138:85/gene Maryann's Law: You can always find what you're not looking for.
Re: Do you use this library
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:45:38 -0400 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: That could be handy if it is easily configured to be used, which I have not investigated. http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/How_To:Use_pigz_to_speed_up_compression Making amanda use its parallelism might be a challenging project however. Other emails on this list indicate that using pigz does speed up amanda runs. Just for the halibut, I did a bit of testing on an otherwise idle desktop with two AMD cores. I created a tarball using my /var directory. Then: root@dzur:/# time pigz var.test.tar real6m1.411s user9m5.290s sys 0m44.550s root@dzur:/# ll var.test.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6786436232 2011-08-25 10:07 var.test.tar.gz root@dzur:/# time gzip -d var.test.tar.gz real4m16.611s user1m43.080s sys 0m38.410s root@dzur:/# ll var.test.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9458923520 2011-08-25 10:07 var.test.tar root@dzur:/# tar -tf var.test.tar # output omitted; no error messages root@dzur:/# time gzip var.test.tar real9m45.992s user8m23.070s sys 0m32.970s root@dzur:/# ll var.test.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6785153296 2011-08-25 10:07 var.test.tar.gz root@dzur:/# gunzip var.test.tar.gz root@dzur:/# ll var.test.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9458923520 2011-08-25 10:07 var.test.tar root@dzur:/# pigz --version pigz 2.1.6 root@dzur:/# Note that gzip took noticeably longer but produced a marginally smaller output file (possibly due to different default compression values; I did not investigate). Testing the output file as above produced no error message. The uncompressed tarball retained its size. I used gzip -d to test rather than pigz -d in order to verify compatibility. While we're at it, I am glad I never did implement bzip2 compression for Amanada: root@dzur:/# time bzip2 var.test.tar real157m54.710s user156m41.360s sys 0m35.550s root@dzur:/# ll var.test.tar.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6780647698 2011-08-25 10:07 var.test.tar.bz2 root@dzur:/# -- Charles Curley /\ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ /Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com/ \No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB
Re: Do you use this library
All we did at my site was to essentially replace the gzip binary. Its wrong and its cheating, but that is what we did. On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 02:21:13PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:45:38 -0400 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: That could be handy if it is easily configured to be used, which I have not investigated. http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/How_To:Use_pigz_to_speed_up_compression Making amanda use its parallelism might be a challenging project however. Other emails on this list indicate that using pigz does speed up amanda runs. Just for the halibut, I did a bit of testing on an otherwise idle desktop with two AMD cores. I created a tarball using my /var directory. Then: root@dzur:/# time pigz var.test.tar real 6m1.411s user 9m5.290s sys 0m44.550s root@dzur:/# ll var.test.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6786436232 2011-08-25 10:07 var.test.tar.gz root@dzur:/# time gzip -d var.test.tar.gz real 4m16.611s user 1m43.080s sys 0m38.410s root@dzur:/# ll var.test.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9458923520 2011-08-25 10:07 var.test.tar root@dzur:/# tar -tf var.test.tar # output omitted; no error messages root@dzur:/# time gzip var.test.tar real 9m45.992s user 8m23.070s sys 0m32.970s root@dzur:/# ll var.test.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6785153296 2011-08-25 10:07 var.test.tar.gz root@dzur:/# gunzip var.test.tar.gz root@dzur:/# ll var.test.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9458923520 2011-08-25 10:07 var.test.tar root@dzur:/# pigz --version pigz 2.1.6 root@dzur:/# Note that gzip took noticeably longer but produced a marginally smaller output file (possibly due to different default compression values; I did not investigate). Testing the output file as above produced no error message. The uncompressed tarball retained its size. I used gzip -d to test rather than pigz -d in order to verify compatibility. While we're at it, I am glad I never did implement bzip2 compression for Amanada: root@dzur:/# time bzip2 var.test.tar real 157m54.710s user 156m41.360s sys 0m35.550s root@dzur:/# ll var.test.tar.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6780647698 2011-08-25 10:07 var.test.tar.bz2 root@dzur:/# -- Charles Curley /\ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ /Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com/ \No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB --- Brian R Cuttler brian.cutt...@wadsworth.org Computer Systems Support(v) 518 486-1697 Wadsworth Center(f) 518 473-6384 NYS Department of HealthHelp Desk 518 473-0773 IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential or sensitive information which is, or may be, legally privileged or otherwise protected by law from further disclosure. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, please do not distribute, copy or use it or any attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this from your system. Thank you for your cooperation.
Re: Do you use this library
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:45:38 -0400 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Making amanda use its parallelism might be a challenging project however. Actually, not challenging at all. According to the man page, http://www.zlib.net/pigz/pigz.pdf: Pigz compresses using threads to make use of multiple processors and cores. The input is broken up into 128 KB chunks with each compressed in parallel. The individual check value for each chunk is also calculated in parallel. The compressed data is written in order to the output, and a combined check value is calculated from the individual check values. The compressed data format generated is in the gzip, zlib, or single-entry zip format using the deflate compression method. The compression produces partial raw deflate streams which are concatenated by a single write thread and wrapped with the appropriate header and trailer, where the trailer contains the combined check value. ... The number of compress threads is set by default to the number of online processors, which can be changed using the -p option. -- Charles Curley /\ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ /Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com/ \No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB
Re: Do you use this library
On Thursday, August 25, 2011 07:20:20 PM Charles Curley did opine: On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:45:38 -0400 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: That could be handy if it is easily configured to be used, which I have not investigated. http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/How_To:Use_pigz_to_speed_up_compression Making amanda use its parallelism might be a challenging project however. Other emails on this list indicate that using pigz does speed up amanda runs. Just for the halibut, I did a bit of testing on an otherwise idle desktop with two AMD cores. I created a tarball using my /var directory. Then: root@dzur:/# time pigz var.test.tar real 6m1.411s user 9m5.290s sys 0m44.550s root@dzur:/# ll var.test.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6786436232 2011-08-25 10:07 var.test.tar.gz root@dzur:/# time gzip -d var.test.tar.gz real 4m16.611s user 1m43.080s sys 0m38.410s root@dzur:/# ll var.test.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9458923520 2011-08-25 10:07 var.test.tar root@dzur:/# tar -tf var.test.tar # output omitted; no error messages root@dzur:/# time gzip var.test.tar real 9m45.992s user 8m23.070s sys 0m32.970s root@dzur:/# ll var.test.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6785153296 2011-08-25 10:07 var.test.tar.gz root@dzur:/# gunzip var.test.tar.gz root@dzur:/# ll var.test.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9458923520 2011-08-25 10:07 var.test.tar root@dzur:/# pigz --version pigz 2.1.6 root@dzur:/# Note that gzip took noticeably longer but produced a marginally smaller output file (possibly due to different default compression values; I did not investigate). Testing the output file as above produced no error message. The uncompressed tarball retained its size. I used gzip -d to test rather than pigz -d in order to verify compatibility. While we're at it, I am glad I never did implement bzip2 compression for Amanada: root@dzur:/# time bzip2 var.test.tar real 157m54.710s user 156m41.360s sys 0m35.550s root@dzur:/# ll var.test.tar.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6780647698 2011-08-25 10:07 var.test.tar.bz2 root@dzur:/# This latter is not a bit surprising. And its been known to make mistakes in the decompress without reporting an error. I once unpacked a kernel tree but could not get it to build, not once but 3 times and each time the tree was missing about a megabytes worth of a driver subdir. By then I was getting schmardter from the error messages knew which subdir was missing. Prepared to download it again, I blew that tree away and unpacked the .bz2 again. On the 4th try, that subdir finally showed up, and it then built as usual. From that time on, I have never pulled the .bz2 unless the .gz was not available. Cheers, gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://204.111.67.138:85/gene When you die, you lose a very important part of your life. -- Brooke Shields
Re: Do you use this library
On Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:17:33 AM McGraw, Robert P did opine: JF, Recently you sent me your tapetype for an lto4 drive. I have a question about the length parameter. An lto-4 tape has a non-compress length of ~800GB and in compress about double. I know these are max values. In you answer below you have length set to ~772GB. If I am going to run in compress mode so should the length value be double or ~1.4TB. You cannot double compress in normal practice. Feeding a highly compressed file to the lightning fast compression methods used in tape drives will often result in the file growing larger by many percentage points. Gzip can generally beat the tape drives at their own game, albeit at the expense of cpu time to do it right. There are also pretty valid arguments against using the drives compression as it isolates the backup program, preventing it, regardless of the name of the program in question, from keeping track of how much of the tape has been used since the best the programs can do is count the bytes sent down the cable to the drive. If the drive is massaging the data, shrinking or expending it, then the program has no real clue when the tape is full till the drive reports EOT. Because of these considerations, it is pretty universal here that the recommendation is to turn off the drives compressor and let software methods do the data smunching. Then amanda, or any another other program that does track the tape capacity, will then know how much of the tape has been used. This can be very difficult to actually do for those tape formats, most of them, that record the compressor's state in a hidden header file we never see. DDS is one such format where you will have to write a script that: dd reads the first block of the tape out to a file, then mtx re-winds the tape, then mtx turns off the drives compressor, then dd re-writes the first block of the tape with the saved file All without ejecting the tape or going through a tape recognition cycle as most drives do for a freshly inserted tape, and which would turn the compression back on despite your wishes. Only a similar operation will actually turn it of for most drives today if it has ever been turned on and the tape written to. You can of course ignore this advice Robert. Thanks Robert [...] Cheers, gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) He's dead, Jim.
RE: Do you use this library
Gene, Thanks for your information. I tried the gzip way but it took too long on my backup server. With my old LTO2 drive I took 90% of the compressed value and used that as the length. With device-property LEOM true and part_size 40GB, I was getting close to filling my tapes to 100%. If I ever get a faster backup server I will retry the gizp way again. Thanks again, Robert -Original Message- From: owner-amanda-us...@amanda.org [mailto:owner-amanda-us...@amanda.org] On Behalf Of gene heskett Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:43 AM To: amanda-users@amanda.org Subject: Re: Do you use this library On Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:17:33 AM McGraw, Robert P did opine: JF, Recently you sent me your tapetype for an lto4 drive. I have a question about the length parameter. An lto-4 tape has a non-compress length of ~800GB and in compress about double. I know these are max values. In you answer below you have length set to ~772GB. If I am going to run in compress mode so should the length value be double or ~1.4TB. You cannot double compress in normal practice. Feeding a highly compressed file to the lightning fast compression methods used in tape drives will often result in the file growing larger by many percentage points. Gzip can generally beat the tape drives at their own game, albeit at the expense of cpu time to do it right. There are also pretty valid arguments against using the drives compression as it isolates the backup program, preventing it, regardless of the name of the program in question, from keeping track of how much of the tape has been used since the best the programs can do is count the bytes sent down the cable to the drive. If the drive is massaging the data, shrinking or expending it, then the program has no real clue when the tape is full till the drive reports EOT. Because of these considerations, it is pretty universal here that the recommendation is to turn off the drives compressor and let software methods do the data smunching. Then amanda, or any another other program that does track the tape capacity, will then know how much of the tape has been used. This can be very difficult to actually do for those tape formats, most of them, that record the compressor's state in a hidden header file we never see. DDS is one such format where you will have to write a script that: dd reads the first block of the tape out to a file, then mtx re-winds the tape, then mtx turns off the drives compressor, then dd re-writes the first block of the tape with the saved file All without ejecting the tape or going through a tape recognition cycle as most drives do for a freshly inserted tape, and which would turn the compression back on despite your wishes. Only a similar operation will actually turn it of for most drives today if it has ever been turned on and the tape written to. You can of course ignore this advice Robert. Thanks Robert [...] Cheers, gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) He's dead, Jim.
Re: Do you use this library
* McGraw, Robert P rmcg...@purdue.edu [20110824 11:46]: Gene, Thanks for your information. I tried the gzip way but it took too long on my backup server. With my old LTO2 drive I took 90% of the compressed value and used that as the length. With device-property LEOM true and part_size 40GB, I was getting close to filling my tapes to 100%. If I ever get a faster backup server I will retry the gizp way again. I've always used hardware compression with LTO3/4/5 since these drives will detect if the data stream is compressible or not so I dont bother disabling it. But the amtapetype output I sent you was with compression disabled though. jf Thanks again, Robert -Original Message- From: owner-amanda-us...@amanda.org [mailto:owner-amanda-us...@amanda.org] On Behalf Of gene heskett Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:43 AM To: amanda-users@amanda.org Subject: Re: Do you use this library On Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:17:33 AM McGraw, Robert P did opine: JF, Recently you sent me your tapetype for an lto4 drive. I have a question about the length parameter. An lto-4 tape has a non-compress length of ~800GB and in compress about double. I know these are max values. In you answer below you have length set to ~772GB. If I am going to run in compress mode so should the length value be double or ~1.4TB. You cannot double compress in normal practice. Feeding a highly compressed file to the lightning fast compression methods used in tape drives will often result in the file growing larger by many percentage points. Gzip can generally beat the tape drives at their own game, albeit at the expense of cpu time to do it right. There are also pretty valid arguments against using the drives compression as it isolates the backup program, preventing it, regardless of the name of the program in question, from keeping track of how much of the tape has been used since the best the programs can do is count the bytes sent down the cable to the drive. If the drive is massaging the data, shrinking or expending it, then the program has no real clue when the tape is full till the drive reports EOT. Because of these considerations, it is pretty universal here that the recommendation is to turn off the drives compressor and let software methods do the data smunching. Then amanda, or any another other program that does track the tape capacity, will then know how much of the tape has been used. This can be very difficult to actually do for those tape formats, most of them, that record the compressor's state in a hidden header file we never see. DDS is one such format where you will have to write a script that: dd reads the first block of the tape out to a file, then mtx re-winds the tape, then mtx turns off the drives compressor, then dd re-writes the first block of the tape with the saved file All without ejecting the tape or going through a tape recognition cycle as most drives do for a freshly inserted tape, and which would turn the compression back on despite your wishes. Only a similar operation will actually turn it of for most drives today if it has ever been turned on and the tape written to. You can of course ignore this advice Robert. Thanks Robert [...] Cheers, gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) He's dead, Jim.
Re: Do you use this library
On Wednesday, August 24, 2011 05:13:46 PM McGraw, Robert P did opine: Gene, Thanks for your information. I tried the gzip way but it took too long on my backup server. My iron here is beginning to took toward collecting SS one day, but it was good when I built it from boxes of parts about 4 years ago. Quad core Phenom running at 2.1Ghz, 4Gb of DDR2 ram. Today that isn't much to brag about. A typical run here grabs 2 boxes for 36 DLE's, and is done in a long hour most nights, backing up a bit less than 30Gb most runs. To vtapes on a 1Tb drive. With my old LTO2 drive I took 90% of the compressed value and used that as the length. With device-property LEOM true and part_size 40GB, I was getting close to filling my tapes to 100%. If I ever get a faster backup server I will retry the gizp way again. Thanks again, No problem Robert, but I did need to emphasize the 'price' of the trade offs. ;-) Robert -Original Message- From: owner-amanda-us...@amanda.org [mailto:owner-amanda-us...@amanda.org] On Behalf Of gene heskett Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:43 AM To: amanda-users@amanda.org Subject: Re: Do you use this library On Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:17:33 AM McGraw, Robert P did opine: JF, Recently you sent me your tapetype for an lto4 drive. I have a question about the length parameter. An lto-4 tape has a non-compress length of ~800GB and in compress about double. I know these are max values. In you answer below you have length set to ~772GB. If I am going to run in compress mode so should the length value be double or ~1.4TB. You cannot double compress in normal practice. Feeding a highly compressed file to the lightning fast compression methods used in tape drives will often result in the file growing larger by many percentage points. Gzip can generally beat the tape drives at their own game, albeit at the expense of cpu time to do it right. There are also pretty valid arguments against using the drives compression as it isolates the backup program, preventing it, regardless of the name of the program in question, from keeping track of how much of the tape has been used since the best the programs can do is count the bytes sent down the cable to the drive. If the drive is massaging the data, shrinking or expending it, then the program has no real clue when the tape is full till the drive reports EOT. Because of these considerations, it is pretty universal here that the recommendation is to turn off the drives compressor and let software methods do the data smunching. Then amanda, or any another other program that does track the tape capacity, will then know how much of the tape has been used. This can be very difficult to actually do for those tape formats, most of them, that record the compressor's state in a hidden header file we never see. DDS is one such format where you will have to write a script that: dd reads the first block of the tape out to a file, then mtx re-winds the tape, then mtx turns off the drives compressor, then dd re-writes the first block of the tape with the saved file All without ejecting the tape or going through a tape recognition cycle as most drives do for a freshly inserted tape, and which would turn the compression back on despite your wishes. Only a similar operation will actually turn it of for most drives today if it has ever been turned on and the tape written to. You can of course ignore this advice Robert. Thanks Robert [...] Cheers, gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) He's dead, Jim. Cheers, gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The covers of this book are too far apart. -- Book review by Ambrose Bierce.
RE: Do you use this library
JF, Recently you sent me your tapetype for an lto4 drive. I have a question about the length parameter. An lto-4 tape has a non-compress length of ~800GB and in compress about double. I know these are max values. In you answer below you have length set to ~772GB. If I am going to run in compress mode so should the length value be double or ~1.4TB. Thanks Robert -Original Message- From: Jean-Francois Malouin [mailto:Jean- francois.malo...@bic.mni.mcgill.ca] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 3:33 PM To: McGraw, Robert P Subject: Re: Do you use this library * McGraw, Robert P rmcg...@purdue.edu [20110721 14:56]: We just purchased a Oracle/Sun StorageTek SL24, SCSI, with HP LTO4 FH tape drive. Does anyone use this model unit. If so could you send me your tapetype for the LTO4 drive. Got many of those. Here's my tapetype for these drives: define tapetype tape-lto4 { length 772096 mbytes filemark 0 kbytes speed 102216 kps blocksize 2048 kbytes } hth, jf _ Robert P. McGraw, Jr. Manager, Computer SystemEMAIL: rmcg...@purdue.edu Purdue UniversityROOM: MATH-807 Department of Mathematics PHONE: (765) 494-6055 150 N. University Street West Lafayette, IN 47907-2067 -- ° Jean-François Malouin McConnell Brain Imaging Centre Systems/Network Administrator Montréal Neurological Institute 3801 Rue University, Suite WB219 Montréal, Québec, H3A 2B4 Phone: 514-398-8924 Fax: 514-398-8948
Do you use this library
We just purchased a Oracle/Sun StorageTek SL24, SCSI, with HP LTO4 FH tape drive. Does anyone use this model unit. If so could you send me your tapetype for the LTO4 drive. _ Robert P. McGraw, Jr. Manager, Computer SystemEMAIL: rmcg...@purdue.edu Purdue UniversityROOM: MATH-807 Department of Mathematics PHONE: (765) 494-6055 150 N. University Street West Lafayette, IN 47907-2067