[arr] Re: Deewali Spl :A R Rahman Non-Stop Festival Edit Mix 2008 ( Tamil Edition)
Thanks a ton dude!! You're awesome.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, wiredbeats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! Yeah! Its that time of the year when i release a very special mix- set of the my chosen tracks of AR Rahman. Each year i have been releasing several remixed tracks of AR Rahmanâs works. These remixed tracks keep me on higher ground which helps me produce some original tracks, which you can find here and few other places, including in this website. Coming back. This year i present a new remix set for you. Enjoy your Deewali with a blast of non-stop Rahmanâs remixed tracks. I have selected some interesting tracks, not the usual dance hits of Rahmans. Each year I release 2 editions of the non-stop remix set, one with tamil tracks and the other one with Rahmanâs hits in Hindi. This yearâs Hindi mix set includes remixed versions of Rahmanâs latest - Yuvraaj. Make your Deewali a dance blast with my first release, The Rahmanâs Festival Edit Mix 2008 ( Tamil Edition). A 45 mins non- stop back to back play of Rahmanâs tracks from is early days to his recent compositions. Enjoy the mix here! http://wiredbeats.com/2008/10/a-r-rahman-non-stop-festival-edit-mix- 2008-tamil-edition/ * Title : AR Rahman Non Stop Festival Edit Mix 2008 ( Tamil Edition) * Size : 39 MB * Duration : 42Mins * Format :mp3 * Genre - Club/Dance regards Wiredbeats PS : By the way you can also buy my album out in iTUNES, Amazon music etc Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[arr] Re: Kannathil Muthamitaal Climax BGM
Thanks Thulasi, this is awesome! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now, this is terrific stuff.. really great rip. just hearing the BGM, i can visualize the scenes in my mind. that is the power of ARRs music.. its totally from his heart.. what an excellent piece of BGM ARR has crafted for this movie. simply amazing stuff. long live ARR. thanx Thinesan.. share more BGMs plz.. On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Thineshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I decided to try to rip one of my favourite BGMs ever! This is from the climax of kannathil muthamitaal. It came out very nicely! I encoded it into flac for size reduction. But even still, the size is very big! (6mb/minute) One thing to notice is that although the size is reduced, the quality is LOSSLESS just like wav. Absolutely no loss. Eventhough the size is big, I promise you, its 10 minutes of absolute bliss. And it is a torrent file, which means it wont take long to download. Ill be uploading it directly from my computer and also as people download, they can also help seed me. Which means we will all benefit from each other. So here is the torrent shortcut, just isntall utorrent (google search its free) and then open this file and save the file to your fav destination. I'll be seeding this 24/7. Please download and check the BGM out for urself. If you guys are all satisfied, I can even rip the entire BGM of kannathil muthamitaal. Make a compilation just like kaissom or vithur and we can use torrent to share. The ball is in your court. Torrent Shortcut: http://www.sendspace.com/file/oeo957 (just open this with softwares such as utorrent available here http://filehippo.com/download_utorrent/) ** the more people download, the faster the download will be for others since there are more people uploading it via torrent. so this is perfect for long term sharing like BGM collections. Please consider this method for sharing files since sizes seem to be an obstacle here which results in quality loss when methods such as mp3 compression is approached. Actual File: http://www.sendspace.com/file/jetucs ** just in case people are not able to use torrents, here is the link to the actual file. but remember this link expires in a while and its not a very fast way to download and its also a hassle to upload due to large sizes. Thats why i prefer the torrent method. *** i am just trying to introduce new methods for BGMs and file sharing in order to show you all that we can all be proud owners of lossless BGMs from ARR! Please pour ur comments in!
[arr] Oakland Concert Audio
I have recorded about 85% of the concert last weekend. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XLC9SKSQ http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/-1100164959/ARR_Oakland.zip -S
[arr] Coming from the Oakland concert
This was an awesome event!! I just got back, and can't get it out of my mind. Sivaji, Guru, and RDB dominated the list. I've recorded most portion of the concert audio. It has turned out quite decent.. I'll post it in a few days after some editing. P.s. what is a good simple audio editor for WMA files? -S
[arr] Oakland (San Francisco) concert and ARR fan gathering
Yes I've bought tickets. They're probably sold out by now. I'm actually flying from Seattle to San Francisco for the the concert, and it would be great to arrange an ARR fan gathering before the concert. Who are the organizers? I will contact them to see if we can get a private gathering with ARR for this group. Please let me know who all are going. The more people we have, the better chance we have of arranging something. -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, tanyaagha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dont thin anything has happened yet, one of the group members tried to talk to the sponsors for the group but the concern was disregarded, anyways did you already buy your tickets? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ST sahilthaker22@ wrote: Has anyone planned ARR fan gathering?
[arr] Anyone going to Oakland concert?
Has anyone planned ARR fan gathering?
[arr] New ARR FTP Server ?
Hey guys, Is there still an active ARR ftp server? If not, I was thinking of hosting one - but only for BGMs and remixes, not for sharing full tracks. There will have to be some sort of manual screening to prevent full tracks from being uploaded. In my mind its primary purpose is to share BGMs and rare tracks that can not be purchased readily, and to inspire more remix efforts. Any thoughts? -S
[arr] Re: Download 2 GURU BGM'S that keeps everyone adrenalin flowing
Can you please post these on the web somewhere? Some of us dont subscribe to this group via email. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GURU chant attached. i personally love this bit On 1/17/07, Thulasi Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i believe these two BGM's: dhom dhadaka and GURU chant will shut those people's mouth who criticize our GURU's GURU BGM. note that these two are jus couple of samples.. for entire magic, watch the movie BGM1 attached BGM2 in next mail.. i sent both in same mail. due to space quota, i got a delivery failure
[arr] Re: Request to all Orkutians here.....
Hi Durba, I am a big Rahman fan, and always have been. But I don't think any critics of Rahman should be shunned down. There is no need to ban anti-rahman community; they have the right to free speech as much as we do. One exception is when personally targeted hateful mails are being exchanged, in which case we should definitely report the group as abusive. May I suggest that we don't report boguses and let those communities live. The best part (of being a rahman fan) is to see how few members those anti-ARR communities have! -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, durba bhattacharjee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a member of Orkut, I came across two communities related to ARR. The first one is `I Hate Rahman' and the second one is `Rahman the music thief'. All who have account in Orkut, please visit these communities and report `bogus'. After 100 `bogus' reports, Orkut will ban those communities. I request you not to send any personal mail, scrap or message attacking the owners and moderators of these two communities. Have patience, only reporting `bogus' will serve our purpose. The urls of these communities are - http://www.orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=23910958 http://www.orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=16315862 Durba
[arr] Re: Silllunu Oru Kadhal OST - 256 Kbps VBR [Voiceless]
Thanks Diniesh, I love ARR's BGMs --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ruben mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks dinesh for the great work...take care.. Rahmania [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dinesh THANK U THANK U THANK U Am eternally grateful to u Regards, Swapna Rahmania ... the ultimate fan station www.rahmania.net - Original Message From: Dinesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 4, 2006 2:49:49 PM Subject: [arr] Silllunu Oru Kadhal OST - 256 Kbps VBR [Voiceless] Movie : Sillunu Oru Kadhal Music : 'Mozart Of India' A.R.Rahman OST Run Time : 1 Hour 16 Mins 50 Secs Quality : 256 Kbps VBR - 48kHz SOK Voiceless BGM Part 1 - http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d= WZ59ERRQ [39 Tracks] SOK Voiceless BGM Part 2 - http://www.megauplo ad.com/?d= WXWOY2AZ [38 Tracks] Enjoy do let me know about the quality...thanks! !! - Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. - Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.
[arr] Re: Rahman learns the accordion
Also the beginning of Baazi Laga --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, neena kochhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ameer, you are right, I also mentioned the use of accordian for the song Aye Hairthe Ashiqui in my last mail to the group. Mohamed Ameer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think he has used accordion in the song Aye Hairathe Aashiqui, please correct me if i am wrong regards Ameer - Original Message From: Gopal Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:32:56 AM Subject: [arr] Rahman learns the accordion Rahman learns the accordion He's a music director who doesn't need to prove his credentials today. And one would expect Rahman to take it easy when it comes to filmi music, but that is far from the case. Rahman still goes out of his way to deliver his best, whether it is for an Indian project or an international one. For Mani Ratnam's Guru, the musician actually went searching for an instrument he didn't know how to play the accordion. He went to a popular music store in Hong Kong, purchased an accordion, learnt how to play it and actually incorporated this in the music of the film. Such dedication! Must say that is truly the mark of a guru! The Times of India - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. - Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail . The New Version is radically easier to use The Wall Street Journal
[arr] Re: An Interesting Find Out from GURU soundtrack - Must Read!!
Sounds like you found your own blog ;) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ruben mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, I was surfing through the internet blogs for interesting review of GURU soundtrack and found this blog - http://arrahman-fan.blogspot.com there is an interesting find out in the track Barso Re ...must read. The blog also very interesting our boss Biography. take care guys - Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.
[arr] Re: Banyan Theme composed by ARR
Hey Raj, Its beautiful!! Proud to be ARR fan. -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, raj_d_kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdEcNe0wrwU i was looking for this song for some time.. i have heard it first time, when ARR performed in the concert in Hong Kong... Very nice one... Raj Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Country music artists Christian music artists New music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[arr] Re: Dutch musical awards -chiya
Cant believe I missed this post earlier. This is amazing.. great as well as hillarious - especially because of the vocals. Nice to see, CC must have gotten quite popular in the netherlands. -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, John jeevinth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check tis out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6qotuhl69Usearch=bombay%20dreams -- -John Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS New music artists Christian music artists Country music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[arr] ARR for 2008 Olympics???
Is it really true? http://bmcirillo.blogspot.com/2006/04/covered-tools-important.html I'm ushering some shows coming up, so that should be cool (read as get in for free!). This weekend for The Good Person of Setzuan which I've helped build the set for and everything, and that it should be cool to see the fruition of all that work. Next weekend I will be going to Dayton to usher an A.R. Rahman show called Wake Up! He has personally asked for Western Students to usher his show because he was so impressed by us when he came last semester (so that's pretty cool). He's the most famous composer in Bollywood (who knows how many times larger than hollywood), the composer of the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical Bombay Dreams, the new Lord of the Rings musical, many MANY movies (including Spike Lee's Inside Man and Andrew Niccol's God of War) and he has been signed on for the 2008 Olympics. That should be pretty cool I would imagine. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Country music artists Christian music artists New music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[arr] Re: Grado headphones and ARR's music
Hi, I had bought grado SR60 especially to listen to ARR. Its sound quality is fantastic, even at high volumes. My only problem with it is that it gets uncomfortable to wear after a little while. In all other ways it is comparable to higher priced models of otehr brands. If you want somethign portable, go for another model. I've always wondered what are the best brand of headphones for ARR. -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, stylegamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone listen to ARR on Grados? Whats the epereince like? Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Christian music artists New country music artists New music artists Country music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[arr] Re: A.R.Rahman's tamil song used for a french song
Wow! Roop suhana tune was also used in coke ads around Australia area a year or so ago. Still Refreshing.. the song that is. -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, mangal pravien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi ram! the song was really awesome, thanx for sharing dis song wid us. and i'v got some questions 2 u. 1. how did u get this link? or how did u know abt it? 2. what do think about the musician, how he cud know about rehman ji's this song. since there is a lot of rehman ji's songs been world wide recognized? (dilse, bombay dreams, vande mataram) pravien mangal. ram930_krishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rahman's song used for a french song 5/3/2006 10:05 AM http://www.myspace.com/lacaution Friends, Listen to the Pilots Automatiques ... U r in for a huge surprise. The most happy thing is that a tamil song is being remixed and used instead of hindi. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS New music artists Christian music artists Country music artists New country music artists Unsigned music artist - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group arrahmanfans on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS New country music artists New music artists Country music artists Christian music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[arr] What is really inside Inside Man
Hi All, I recently saw the movie Inside Man primarily because it featured chaiya chhaiya. As some people have pointed out it is used only as an opening and closing number. The opening version has been shortened considerably and has been decorated by Terence Blanchard. The closing version has some contributions by Blanchard as well as Punjabi MC. Apparently these contributions seem to have been made without consulting ARR, and it shows. Terence Blanchard's additions are very inappropriate and practically ruin it, when compared to the original. His strings are almost out of harmony with the underlying composition and he has added a discordant loud noise at selected places which apparently turns out to be a theme of the movie. Punjabi MC's contributions are equally inappropriate if not more. Especially when playing this in the western markets, where rap style has matured fairly well, PMC's additions sound amateurish. It makes you appreciate the way ARR blends in Blaze's rap into his originals. In addition, the placement of the tracks is completely irrelevant to the storyline. I was expecting it to be used to promote cultural diversity in NY, like someone here had suggested, but that was not the case. It seems to have been used simply because Spike Lee liked it, which in my opinion is good enough, but not the greatest reason..(since it exposes ARR's work to a larger crowd) All this bring about another point to mind that ARR's music can not be well understood even by professional artistes around the world and that if you can not understand the substance, you can not alter it. I'm sure all of you hardcore fans would agree that ARR's music is clearly in another dimension, one that may not be obvious at first. It seems to me that ARR works best as a Maverick. Anyone else's contributions simply add dust in the heavenly air he brings us. The only other composer which whom he has successfully blended is Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan. Now, considering that LOTR music may also be adulterated, it makes me eagerly wait for a review from a die-hard ARR fan, someone who has experienced and appreciates his past work, and ofcourse I want to hear the soundtrack itself. Despite my disappointment I am very proud that our ARR is getting more international attention. He has expressed that he will take on a Hollywood movie if and when the right opportunity comes with a director who understands his music. I now completely understand why he is so reserved. One day he will become a household name around the world, and be revered as one of the greatest music artistes the world has produced. - S P.S. overall, ch ch and the movie itself are not bad, quite enjoyable. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: Looking back at Kuch Kuch Hota Hai vs. Dil Se
Hey Ajit, I totally agree. Dil se, roja, rangeela, zubeidaa earth,fire, water.. pretty much any ARR tune you start loving, it will last forever. This is the magic of ARR. He is gifted with a unique ability to not only compose good tunes but with splendid creative ability to produce tunes outside of our imagination. Long live ARR.. his music will surely live forever! -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ajit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was fun to go back to see the very first messages of this group, started in early Jan 1999. At that time, when I was not yet a member of this group, people here were complaining about Jatin Lalit's arrogance and how the music of Kuch Kuch Hota Hai was not as good as Dil Se, despite it being so popular. Well, looks like over time, Dil Se's music has a much more permanent place among music lovers alike! Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: LOTR reviews
Yes, unfortunately, this is a not the best start. And though the musical score, by the Indian film composer AR Rahman, the Finnish group Värttinä ... it doesn't, at least on first hearing, seem to offer any memorable take-home numbers. We should keep in mind that these folks have probably never heard ARR's work, and so they don't know what we do.. that his music grows with time. We should hope for positive reviews, but ultimately the only review that will shed the right light is our own. -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not the best way to begin your day, but I guess what has to be said has to be said http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/03/24/wfirstnight24.xmlsSheet=/news/2006/03/24/ixnewstop.html http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060323.lord24nat/BNStory/Entertainment/home http://www.calendarlive.com/stage/cl-et-lord24mar24,0,1536887.story?coll=cl-home-more-channels http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/entertainment/gossip/14171713.htm Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: The importance of being AR Rahman
In March, another song by him will be featured on the soundtrack of Spike Lee's Inside Man starring Denzel Washington. Any ideas which? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, srinivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1631527,0011.htm Dil se Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: a r rahman's response to the group's birthday wishes
Simply the idea that he thought of us means a lot to us. Thanks Vijay. -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vijay Iyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, I must apologise...ive been very very busy and didnt even check this email by a r r sent almost a week back..this is the response to the birthday wishes that we collated and sent to him..thanks once again !!! To all of you Fans who were worried for me and those who wished me on my birthday ..and those who thought of doing it ..thanks a lot .Prayed for the whole group That all of you should all be winners in life and you should be guided right always ..!. Cheers Vij - Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: MUSIC OF MIDDLE EARTH: AN interview with Christopher Nightingale
everything has grown together, building a whole and complete new world. In the finished score, I hope there will be no song you can point to and say `that's by A.R. Rahman,' or `that's by Värttinä.' You may hear a melody originally written by Rahman, but to which Värttinä has applied its own, unique interpretation, and vice-versa. Has our ARR ever produced anything that is fused together with another composer? With the possible exception of the song with Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan there seems to have always been a clear boundary on where his contributions lie. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, raghuram rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher Nightingale is the orchestrator and musical supervisor of The Lord of the Rings, the person responsible for the music of Middle-earth. He worked with the composers A.R. Rahman and Värttinä over the course of two years and the music would not be there without him. Chris is one of theatre's most experienced and highly regarded masters of his craft, with past credits that include some of West End London's best plays and musicals, despite his never having imagined a career for himself in either theatre or music. I didn't set out to pursue a career in music explains Nightingale. In fact I studied sciences. I did have a musical background - and I went to Cambridge on an organ scholarship but I took a degree in Natural Sciences. However, it was at Cambridge that I discovered how much I loved the theatre when I became involved with the Footlights, the amateur theatre club at the university. The truth is that I spent a good deal of the time I should have spent with my science books playing the piano with the Footlights, instead. Actually, Chris Nightingale did far more than just play the piano. He was musical director of the Footlights for three years and the Footlights was (and is) far more than an amateur theatre club; it has provided Britain's professional theatre with some of its brightest talent for more than 120 years. Going into the theatre wasn't a conscious choice, but when the opportunity came along, it felt like the right thing to do. After university, I messed around for a bit, playing piano here and there, skiing and then Richard Brown, who's working with me now on The Lord of the Rings, gave me a job playing piano at the Royal Shakespeare Company. And here I still am, sitting at a piano in a theatre, almost 20 years later. But even 20 years of theatre experience wasn't quite enough to prepare Chris fully for the proposal he would receive from producer Kevin Wallace. I had worked with Kevin before but when he first approached me to ask what I thought of the idea of a stage production of Tolkien's books, possibly a musical, my first reaction - and I think it was our director, Matthew Warchus's as well - was `You've got to be kidding! The idea is crazy!' I found it difficult to imagine The Lord of the Rings as a stage production - the work is so vast - how would you put a thousand pages of text into a theatre? But I found it impossible to imagine it as a musical. How could you find a route in - musically that could do this work justice, and avoid cliché and cuteness? Frodo singing about how heavy the ring is and how he just can't go on? It seemed to me like a very bad idea. Then I looked back at the books. I had forgotten how filled with music they are. Music - both literally and as metaphor - is central to the tale. In The Silmarillion, Tolkien's introduction to his imaginary universe, Middle-earth is called into being in song, and each new act of creation - of Elves, Men, Dwarves - is a new theme in a divine symphony. Evil is introduced into the world as a discordant theme that disrupts the harmony. Musically, perhaps the whole project wasn't such a bad idea, after all. I began to realise that you couldn't actually tell this story without music. But what would the music be? It was going to have to be something quite unusual. We certainly weren't going to manage it within the bounds of a conventional `musical' it couldn't sound like any Broadway or West End show any of us had ever seen before and I was grateful to realise that that's not what Kevin Wallace ever had in mind. We talked it over and came to an agreement on where to start. Evil - the dark stuff - seemed for us the key to the music of Middle-earth. How do you express this darkness musically? What we wanted most of all was to avoid the obvious - the clichéd stings and chills of horror films. We didn't want something `scary', but something brooding and visceral - something more Brothers Grimm than Hollywood. The breakthrough for us came in a stage production called The Black Rider, by Tom Waits. The interesting title is pure coincidence - believe it or not it has nothing to do with the Black Riders of The Lord of the Rings. Waits' song is from an opera he wrote with the novelist William Burroughs in the early `90s. It wasn't that we wanted to
[arr] Re: Water Released in the USA
Hi Karan, Try http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4064224 It says pre-order but they already shipped mine - should get it tomorrow. Cant wait!! As Gopal mentioned earlier, its also on itunes. Cheers, -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, k j [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey sahil.. cn u plz tell me from wher 2 preorder water?? i had preordered rdb by card, n ther shud b no prob in duin the same 4 water. plz reply asap.. thnx.. -karan ST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeps!! THose who preordered should have it shipped. To my surprise Mychael Danna is credited frist as a composer before A.R. Rahman :( Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group arrahmanfans on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Know an art music fan? Make a donation in their honor this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/VwqHaC/.VHMAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: The Bond b/w ARR FLUTE
Thanks Krishna, great job!!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, krishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Finally, I have uploaded 30 bits at [EMAIL PROTECTED] password is padmashri Hope you guys you will like it. Rest of bits I will be uploading in a week. -- Liberty without learning is always in peril; learning without liberty is always in vain. - John F. Kennedy Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: ARR RECORDINGS AT LATE NIGHT
Hi Raam, From what I gather by reading ARR's interviews, there are two main reasons for working at night - lack of distraction, and creativity comes better in a peaceful environment. Another possible explanation is that people have different energy levels and moods during different parts of the day. Ofcourse, you'd ask who is high in the middle of the night, but after shifting their sleep schedule a person may find himself/herself to be very productive at night. I know I am.. especially when indulged in a creative task - I tried it few years back and it worked wonders. Though under most normal circumstances its infeasible to turn around ones schedule. Still, some of us may need to (not me). -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, PB Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi we like to know unlike other MDs why the boss always records very late in the night causing inconvenience to others (technicians, instrumentalists singers). Though it is comfortable for him according to himself his own circle of pple, definitely it will not be comfortable for others whether it is gents or ladies as they have to compromise it like a shift night-duty in other offices. But they are compromising only for the skills of arr. Otherwise if it is any other MD they would turn down the offer of recording late in the night as disturbing their routine habits regular time-table may not be that easy. Why this happens and how a recording procedure begins ends, from composing tunes to calling the singers and the singers who come from outside chennai, how they make it, where they stay. will they spend a day or two for these recordings. Will there be a break (lunch break, snacks break at night or warming up) between recordings or at one go ? how this happens in case of other MDs? please guys who all know proper informations about these, post your knowledge and views. thanx, cheers wishes raam - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: Bloody shame what happened to Bose and Meenaxi's music.......
Ajit, I totally agree. Its seems very difficult to figure out what the right elements for commercial success are, expecially for a style like ARR's. People appreciate his overall talents, but apart from a small group of fans like us, some of these albums never received the level of appreciation it should have. I've concluded not to attach commercial success with the real quality of any of his soundtrack; rely entirely on our personal judgement. Despite a cynical attitude I'm predicting water to be very well appreciated by the masses - atleast by the same crowd that praised Bombay, laagan, earth, zubeidaa, etc. -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ajit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just revisited these two mindblowing soundtracks from Rahman, and although I enjoy them immensely and can share this enjoyment with likeminded Rahman fans, it's just sad that the powerful music from these two soundtracks never reached commercial success or even critical acclaim, let alone the movie release for Bose! From these two albums..the masterpieces..Yeh Rishta, Desh Ki Mitti, Ghoomparani, Chinnama Chilakamma, Do Qadam, Noor Un Allah, Zikr, Ekla Chalo, Rang He..wow wow wow! The music of Mangal Pandey and Swades received more recognition, and Swades, rightly so, garnered the most success commercially, and is still one of my fav recent albums from Rahman. But, the music of Meenaxi and Bose.very special, very crafty, very creative, a stroke of genius..and yet.unrecognized.. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: T-SHIRT (Please Read this ###IMPORTANT### )
Hi Shekar Great ideas. I want to point out one more thing. In order to have a useful member break-down by geographic location maybe we should create a system where members can be grouped by cities or states. That will not only help in nominating and electing one or two members in the region to distribute the Tshirts, but it'll also bring us closer to fellow ARR fans in our regions. I have two ideas: 1. Either we have a secure online registration system, a form or 'ARRFans Whitepages', where people can browse by region. 2. Or we can simply find a (private) online forum where we can create multiple threads of dicussion - each thread representing a region, and members from the region can place messages, organize meetings, elect members to act as distributors of the region, etc. A hybrid of the two maybe a better option. I think with this form of decentralized control we can make the Tshirt project and hopefully many more projects in the future a great success. If there is enough response to this message I can happily take on the responsibility of arranging such a system. What do you guys think? - S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Shekar BS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All fellow mates, In continuation to this subject let me have some suggestion regarding this concern, Lets initiate the project with a few number of t-shirts may be around 200 pieces. For funding and pooling the amount, letz open an ICICI bank savings bank account (because ICICI has indiawide branches, so that all the Indian fans can put their money into the account). Let the account be a joint account operated by 2 or 3 fans (lets say gopal,bharat,bhaskar, assuming all r in bangalore). Account is in the name of ARR fans group. Letz have a poll and get the people names and their addresses that are interested buying the shirt. Lets give the account number to the fans. Finalise the amount and ask them to deposit the amount in to the account. By this I think there will be transparency in the transaction. Mean while the other team takes the order for t-shirt, finalise the design, material and all those stuffs and get the product done. regarding dispatching the shirts, instead of having courier charges beared by the user, letz have a common outlet like thing for one region (eg 1 in bangalore, 1 in chennai, 1 in mumbai etc). For identification of a genuine member shall be a unique code sent to his personal mail ID. One team can authenticate the code to the individual to his/her mailed, upon producing the code, the code shall be matched with the name and or else the printout of the mail will authenticate the genuine user. This idea might be having a very complex, but the process is divided and we can group ourselves who are in same place to work on one task like collecting money, getting the details of buyers. Giving printing/manufacturing orders and distributing. Working parallel makes work done efficiently and fast. And at last let me remind you that THE CO-ORDINATION, FAITH AND most important is DEDICATION will be the key to success. Fellow members from India, please put your words. And I hope nobody makes fun on this Idea. COME LET's MAKE THIS PROJECT A HUGE SUCCESS. After the success, we'll plan and implement the idea to dispatch shirts to the members out of India. Warm Regards., Shekar - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: A Question?
Don, It may be difficult to get your hands on ALL of the songs, but try different indian cd stores. There are plenty of online stores too, such as.. http://www.indiaplaza.com/search/search.aspx?srchkey=Artistsrchval=A.+R.+RahmanSUBMIT.x=7SUBMIT.y=10SUBMIT=Searchval=1catalog=musicid=301 If you're wondering which albums you need, just compare your collection to his discography: http://members.tripod.com/gopalhome/arrdisc.html -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Don Omerta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where can I get all the songs composed by AR Rahman. Including all the old Hindi Tamil song. Aslam - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: Injustice to Hindi Rahman fans
You can buy Tamil CDs online. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Bhargav Bhatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am a dieheart fan of rahman and in this group for almost 2 yrs. I am feeling injustice as i m gujarati and have to listen to only Hindi Pieces of our Boss We cant get Tamil and other versions/songs of rahman...so in that way it is very much injustice to us i have heard many things about Iruvar, aah, friends etc but dont know will i be able listen to these piece in my entire life or not.. Anyone has solution??? thanx bhargav bhatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] ARR 3D Tours in US
Just found out tentative locations. Atlanta New York Los Angeles Washington DC Houston Orlando/Tampa Dates not finalized yet. -S P --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Shama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya guys, I just found out something that is definitely going to thrill ARR fans in Georgia, US.(Atlanta to be precise!!) Alright, according to these particular sites, the concert is to be held on March 18th,2006. http://www.sulekha.com/events/evtdp.aspx?cid=148510 http://www.wownow.com/Concerts/031806ARRAHMAN.htm I hope this is precise information and that it helps all you lucky fellas living there. Take care, Cheerio for now. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: ARR 3D Tour
Great news Shama!! It thrills fans outside of Georgia too. There are going to be multiple concerts across US/canada in Feb/march anyone know the full list? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Shama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya guys, I just found out something that is definitely going to thrill ARR fans in Georgia, US.(Atlanta to be precise!!) Alright, according to these particular sites, the concert is to be held on March 18th,2006. http://www.sulekha.com/events/evtdp.aspx?cid=148510 http://www.wownow.com/Concerts/031806ARRAHMAN.htm I hope this is precise information and that it helps all you lucky fellas living there. Take care, Cheerio for now. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: [Semi-arr] Anyone wants 2 sample Värttinä music
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/artist/-/digital-music/59890/ref=j_xsp_1/104-6696241-8858365 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Krishnan Raghavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Im really interested in varttina. I used to listen to their 30 sec bits in a loop as I couldnt get full length versions. Pls post me the songs at krishnan.raghavan @ gmail.com. alternatively, u could upload them somewhere and give me a link. thanks Krish --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, popeye_prakk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am fan of ARR(so i am here) but Värttinä are 1 of my favourites too.Now both of them are working on something which is close to my heart (LOTR) If anybody is very curious to listen or feel the music of Värttinä then I can upload their free songs (these are not pirated songs, they are available on net for their promotion on the net).Although i hav 8 cds of varttina only 6 songs max(im confused whether 5th or 6th is available on net so both ) can be uploaded as these can be found on the net at diffent places. So if interested then reply to this (wher to upload) or mail me mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]/hotmail.com Songs available on net: 1)Oi Dai(their 1st song which made them hit like Roja) 2)Kyla Vuotti uuta Kutta(their most loved song by finnish ppl) 3)Aijjo(1st song arr heard of varttina --i read this somewhere) 4)Sepan Poika 5)Laiska 6)Katariina (i dunno wat is available on net so both) all the above are full songs not 30 secs samples *** ** * I also have recorded the streaming audio from the lotr site which u may have by now.it consists of 2 parts 1st one is guaranteed by arr 2nd part has vocals from varttina-lead by Mari kaasinen and background score i thnk co composed by arr varttina - After long time the lotr website has a few more things to read in their diaries.ARR ARRIVAL FRM INDIA AFTER RAIDS TO LONDON IS MENTIONED I THNK FOR THE OCT.24TH REHEARSAL STARTING DAY.generally the reheasal photographs of musical are out for media only and the publicist does see to it that these photos are published.But till now no photos of rehearsal.Its been a week now since they started rehearsing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [arr] recalling rahman flute pieces!
Hi Arijit, 12. Also in Dubai live when Sivamani and Nilkatam were playing drums and mridangam, naveen played a beautiful piecemindblowing. I'm glad you mentioned this piece. It really is Mind blowing!! A great fusion of pure sweet flute melody and rhythmic beats; it should have been converted into a full-length instrumental. I might convert it to mp3 one of these days and post it.. -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arijit Debnath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the following: 1. Tufan sa raat (Takshak) 2. Thee the /dil hay sanam dil (chor chor) 3. Anjali Anjali 4. One song from Muthu--Rahman and Naveen Jugalbandi 5. hay rama 6. Ghum parani masi pisi (BOSE) 7. radha kay se na jale 8. Kandukundein 9. Koi yahan bhanumati (Priyanka) 10. Thoda thoda (Priyanka) 11. Gurus of peace (here Navven did a beautiful starting at the Dubai live not present in album) 12. Also in Dubai live when Sivamani and Nilkatam were playing drums and mridangam, naveen played a beautiful piecemindblowing. Arijit On 17/10/05, bincemon geo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hai the song is from the film one two ka four sung by lata. shean speering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's 1 more piece. i forgot the name of movie. the songs starts like Khamoshian gun gun i think it's sung by Lata Mangeshkar o Asha Bhosle. Regards. jaison jose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i luv his flute tune in radha kaise 4rm lagaan...and ottakara marimuthu 4rm indra.. these 2 r my favorite. || V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's my favorite song too...but i like the telugu version of it...in SPB's voice... what about the flute in Ennavale...the 2nd interlude...its something like a rollor coaster ride...rapid up-downs...just amazing !! -Vish. anuja goel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! How about kannaku mai azhagu flute piece in which the flute merges with the human voice in the interlude? its amazing!!:) and my favourite! anuja! Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS New country music artists Music artists Christian music artists Music artists Christian music artists Country music artists New music artists Country music artists New music artists YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group arrahmanfans on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: Please Help(Survey)
1) What makes A R Rahman's Music different from others. It would be better if you could tell me in terms of the instruments he uses etc. I don't think his choice of instruments is what really sets him apart although it is crucial, instrumentation is only one component of a good soundtrack. We all know he is a technophile when it comes to musical production, and probably adds more synthesized sounds in his tracks than any other composer in India. Rahman and his troupe have mastered this technology superbly. Yet I don't think his success can be attributed to his sound engineering skills. He would have been just as successful in the time of - now revered - musical masterminds, Mozart, Beethoven, etc. - in a pre-technological age where choice of musical instruments was also quite narrow. What does make his music different, to me, is the nature and style of his melodies. Conventional music composers had mastered a set of techniques to convey a small set of emotional boundaries with little variance. Think of it as mapping a continuous space, the universe of emotional conveyance U, into discreet valued subsets S, where S U. Clearly there was much room to expand, and no doubt other people were trying to do so this is what the society considers true artists; those that bring novelty into their productions. The only problem is (by some measure) human beings are not very creative thinkers we feed off ideas of others, and we make progress one stepping stone at a time. One of the clearest indications of this premise is the way research community works each person's contributes a fairly small set of - typically subtle - ideas that in retrospect are a simple and obvious extension to previous work, but may have gone through a long ride to get there. We can extend the same general argument to the field of music. Genres have formed because people repeatedly conceived similar style of musical compositions. We keep complaining about lifted tunes by copy-cat musical wannabes. And how often have we listened to a catchy pop-style tune that fades away swiftly. The point of this little digression is that Rahman has demonstrated a clearly superior creative ability in music and through this he has been able to step outside the narrow discretized range of ideas of in his field, and prove that indeed the established set of emotional properties were not discreet subsets, but a wide spectrum of experiences. He can create an ambience that runs across portions of this spectrum. His every track (almost) is as unique and creative as the first we know he has the ability to roam farther in the universe of all possible emotions that can be conveyed than just about anyone else in the business. And because the explored states are much smaller than its universe (S U), there is plenty of room for further exploration. Put simply, he has the unique ability to convey unexplored and of course divine emotions through his melodies that is what sets him apart. As for a more complete argument, we'll have wait for neurological studies that identify how we react to different properties of sound. (It's not going to happen in our lifetime) 2) (This is like the more impotant one).Why do you think It is only A R Rahman tha has been so succesful internationaly while his indian counterparts have been trying to capture Indian Markets. Much of the previous answer can easily be substituted here. I'll just add few more comments. Music is a purely emotional experience regardless of the demographics of the audience, the genre, or the language. While people from a given culture may have been attuned to particular styles of music, what the melodies and rhythm try to convey can be experienced regardless of the cultural boundary, and certainly appreciated when an inconceivably unique tune falls upon the ears. It's true! Even we Indian fans hear portions time to time, despite listening to him all these years, which we simply could not have imagined had it not been for ARR's genius. Now, since ARR has far greater musical creativity and an ability to churn out complex, unheard of, and yet emotion-arousing notes, it is no surprise that he has maintained a strong hold on the Indian market (we'll among his original fans at least) while venturing out internationally. Put bluntly, his Indian counterparts don't have as much inherent musical talent. His (super) success internationally will not come because there is any shortage of musical composers in the international arena, but because there is a clear void in the market for a talent as fluent and expressive through the language of music as of Rahman. I don't think personality factor plays as much role here because his work is behind the curtains showbiz. Though, from what we hear, his humble and warm nature, and a pure heart, must have inevitable played a role in him being accepted into the international circle of prominent musical artistes. 3) What is the Profile of people
Re: [arr] A R R in top composers list
That makes more sense! Rahman's talents are far superior to Elfman's or Zimmer's. But it only becomes clear when you listen to enough of their work. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ramesh R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to clarify that the list wasnt based on his own choices. It was ranked based on popularity of searches in IMDB. He put out such a list the first time where the methodology was explained- http://moviescore.blogspot.com/2005/09/elfman-hottest-composer-according-to.html In fact he's surprised to see ARR's name at #13 (rising from #33 last time). http://moviescore.blogspot.com/2005/10/elfman-still-number-one-composer.html Possibly more people are searching IMDB for ARR's profile because of the upcoming LOTR musical, and Water film. --- avyayan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check this out! Mikael Carlsson, a Swedish film music journalist ranks ARR quite high in his music composers list. He's the only Asian in the list as far as I can see. 1 (1). Danny Elfman 2 (3). Hans Zimmer 3 (2). John Williams 4 (4). Ennio Morricone 5 (5). James Horner 6 (8). Howard Shore 7 (7). Thomas Newman 8 (11). Randy Newman 9 (9). Harry Gregson-Williams 10 (12). James Newton Howard 11 (14). Vangelis 12 (35). Alan Menken 13 (33). A.R. Rahman __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- A.R.Rahman Live in Bangalore - October 8th, 2005 The Countdown Begins - Its D-day!!! Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: Gift to ARR
Fantastic job!! Thanks everyone involved, you make us die hard fans very proud. P.S. Is there a larger resolution image available? It would make a great wallpaper. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The group gifted a montage to ARR which recreated his face with inlay card images of every single one of his 94 Original/Remade/Reused and Non-film releases with the following text: Aankhon Ki Pyaas Hai, Is Dil Ki Aas Hai, Inki Talaash Hai ONLY YOU From Roja to Ah Aah and Beyond Forever with you arrahmanfans The fantastic work was was designed by Vinit of our group. ARR with the Montage http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/50654741/ The original montage image http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/50655859/ A big round of applause for Vinit for the fantastic work please... We neglect our cities at our peril. For, in neglecting them, we neglect the nation. -John F. Kennedy Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- A.R.Rahman Live in Bangalore - October 8th, 2005 The Countdown Begins - Its D-day!!! Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [arr] WOHE - BGM
why was it not in the CD, was it coz of its close to 1 minute duration or of something else? My best guess is that it would have been a late improvisation. None of the other tracks would fit the situation. I agree, its too good to leave off the soundtrack - it could have blossomed into a great song. ARR's talent is far greater than the directors who use his work. I felt that atleast for the first half of the movie the bgm was mismatched and poorely used - even thought the soundtrack is amazing - it just wansn't used to its potential. I guess thats a common problem these days. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, bhaji bhadran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hai Sahil that is a great track you have given us for hearing from WOHE and why was it not in the CD, was it coz of its close to 1 minute duration or of something else? coz its just a very fantastic track how he mixes and creats to make variety music not at all able to grasp how he does these beautiful master pieces ... THANKS SAHIL THANKS. BH. - Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one wasn't included in the original cd enjoy :) http://web.music.coolgoose.com/music/song.php?id=201269 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Life without art music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iuUuID/dnQLAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] WOHE BGM download
This one wasn't included in the original cd enjoy :) http://web.music.coolgoose.com/music/song.php?id=201269 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Life without art music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iuUuID/dnQLAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: Need Warriors of Heaven and Earth mp3
Buy it from Amazon.com, or if you prefer $.99 per track, you can get it from most music services, Napster, Itunes, MSN music etc. This group does not support pirated distribution. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, raaaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can someone send me live links of ARR's W arriors of Heaven and Earth mp3 please. Thanks This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: sick of the music could have been better
I think most of the members of this group feel intimidated by AM, NS ... I don't. Not quite intimidated, more like disgused. AMs copycat n lackluster talent are a joke. NS have one style. I guess their types of tunes is personal preference. AM, NS are no comparison for ARR. If must compare, use MDs of commensurate skill.. Nusrat F A K, naushad, etc etc. Why talk just about chor chor which was still a good album and is known to people? i used taal/chor chor to convey the point tht ARR cant pelase everyone. Because songs of taal/chor chor are so different, some of those that adored chor chor felt taal fading away quickly. Sure we can focus on its success too.. just answering your question which crowd was displeased with taal I think we've explored this thread to a reasonable depth, dont you? Lets enjoy what he has given us thus far, and hope for the next (your preference)++ but my feeling is that its going to be ARR++ -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/24/05 10:18 PM India Time, _ST_ wrote: Rawat, why are you assuming that it was the first time I heard it? I've been hearing most of mughal-e-azam songs since I was little. Oh. I have made a mistake. apologies. For a long time I hadn't heard them, any chance I get ARR's numbers seemed more appropriate. So yesterday I downloaded them to revisit those songs, and even yesterday my view didnt come about on one or two listens. Plus, i never said naushad was disappointing, or that the songs are bad! I feel those type of composition wont last in today's mass market if released today.. Not the same compositions. Naushad had released Tajmahal a few months back (Do people know that Naushad is 85, and composing), and he had given modern tunes in that album. That is not a copy of MEA. That has latest technology. that doesnt mean they are disappointing! Precisely the case with ARR's work (but the reason for mass market's displeasure wuld be different). Exactly my point! Then why complain that ARR songs are disappointing because they lack periodness?? period-ness is what will earn respect for ARR. This discussion started with arr saying no to further period-movies. I was trying to look into what, if anything, went wrong with his earlier period music. If something comes out and ARR gets an insight, he will continue doing further period and fans are in for treats after treats. I feel 1947earth to be the best album of ARR. How sad it will be if ARR decided not to create such albums in future. It is plainly what ppl see on the surface that decides the fate of ARR numbers. It is people's inference that is misguided. Such type of your comment will alienate people. These will hurt them and will, in turn, hurt ARR. When you consider movies and soundtracks that are appreciated and rated high by some of these reviewers, it becomes clear how valuable their opinon really is (to me/arr fans). You'r right they need to make a living.. so generally they need to appeal to majority of their readers.. and that does not do justice to ARR's work. When ARR's work will be liked by majority, these critics will be forced to write good things. It is all in a loop. Taal flopped in south. Taal was declared as a one-cassette-per-minute sold album. Thus, if it was a hit at most of the places, maybe, we can concentrate on those places first. Im sure there were small percentage of people in north aswell who didnt appreciate it as much as some of his older works like Chor Chor, Dil hai Sanam. Chor Chor was just a dubbed album, and its film was never dubbed/ released. The audio company tried to encash on ARR magic. Thus, the album didn't become a hit in hindi without the accompanying visuals and publicity that a film generates. Why talk just about chor chor which was still a good album and is known to people? There was one muthu maharaja in hindi, which never reached Indore, and it is a big city. Those were marketing mismanagements. If he releases most albums like Taal, surely would be a huge market that would demand a change! Rest asuured ARR will never release a repeat album. He will give tall++, and people will crave for more. That precisely is one of the biggest problems with other MDs today. Not comparing the talent of articulating various emotions through musical compositinon (because arr should only be compared with other world musical geniuses), they have one style of creative composition and thats all they have! Let us analyze and learn from that one style of these indian mds, and give feedback to ARR to use the strategies of these MDs. Anu Malik's Asoka got condemned because its music did not ahve the period feel. Ghai deserted NS after Pardes to team up with our man. Ghai deserted our man and got the kick of his lifetime at his lower back in the flop
[arr] Re: sick of the music could have been better (pls MUST READ for fans)
What you said above is EXACTLY, VERBATIM, DITTO, the same as what was said about those persons who felt disappointed with Rising and Aa Aah in first hearings. Rawat, why are you assuming that it was the first time I heard it? I've been hearing most of mughal-e-azam songs since I was little. For a long time I hadn't heard them, any chance I get ARR's numbers seemed more appropriate. So yesterday I downloaded them to revisit those songs, and even yesterday my view didnt come about on one or two listens. Plus, i never said naushad was disappointing, or that the songs are bad! I feel those type of composition wont last in today's mass market if released today.. that doesnt mean they are disappointing! Precisely the case with ARR's work (but the reason for mass market's displeasure wuld be different). Lagaan music became hit just like Dil Se and Bombay and Taal music became hit, in spite of NOT being a period musics. Exactly my point! Then why complain that ARR songs are disappointing because they lack periodness?? It is plainly what ppl see on the surface that decides the fate of ARR numbers. It is people's inference that is misguided. Similarly, if Ashutosh could bring a old feel in Lagaan, or Benegal could bring an old feel in Zubaidaa or in Bose, it is their mastery. I would say that they did not get much help from ARR. Laagan would not have been what it was without ARR's music and background. ARR's contribution wasnt just in defining the situation, but in defining emotions of the audience. I guess the best advocate of this view would be Ashutosh or bengal, and their honest views we'll never know.. In your last mail, you had written I stopped listening to critics long time ago. I think we should leave it upto that. Critics are professional and they have to earn a living by writing reviews. That must be affecting what they write. When you consider movies and soundtracks that are appreciated and rated high by some of these reviewers, it becomes clear how valuable their opinon really is (to me/arr fans). You'r right they need to make a living.. so generally they need to appeal to majority of their readers.. and that does not do justice to ARR's work. His those music that were attractive on surface too, were not a compromise on contents. That is what I am saying. He should mandatorily make his music have enough attractiveness of surface too. Agreed. His best work that is appreciated the most has a surface factor aswell as his usual depth. If he chose to adopt a style that pelases one crowd, he would lose out on another. Which crowd was displeased with Taal? Taal flopped in south. Im sure there were small percentage of people in north aswell who didnt appreciate it as much as some of his older works like Chor Chor, Dil hai Sanam. If he releases most albums like Taal, surely would be a huge market that would demand a change! That precisely is one of the biggest problems with other MDs today. Not comparing the talent of articulating various emotions through musical compositinon (because arr should only be compared with other world musical geniuses), they have one style of creative composition and thats all they have! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/23/05 11:34 PM India Time, _ST_ wrote: Whereas laagaan, bose, rising are more irreplaceable. Partly because of the lyrics and accounts of history ingrained into the song, but partly also because of its sounds. let's see. - Bose's tanhaa raahii apanii raah chalataa jaayegaa (with or without bengali prelogue) can be put in PUKAR creating a situation that Anil Kapoor reaffirms his own faith in his honesty and patriotism and sings it in jail. Yes some will be possible, many not possible. Waltz of romance.. possible in other situations demanding waltz in an british presence, but clearly not otherwise.. so couldnt have been placed even in bose, or 1947 unless the director made changes to his view. And that is an unfair comparison. Chale chalo. sure could have replaced kadam karam badhae ja. Whereas the contrary is not a good choice because kadam kadam was a unique theme of Subhash's army. Still does that mean chale chalo is not unique to lagaan. It conveys every possible concept it needs to. The anger toward british rule, persevierence to beat the opponent, confronting in together in a team etc etc. It just so happens that Bose and lagaan had situations very similar and the song could be replaced. But that wont go into pukaar or swades. Sahil, when we are talking about ARR, let's not talk about film situations (which can be altered to suit the replacement of songs) nor lyrics (which can be re-written for new situation). We can talk only about the tune, sounds, feel of the song. if lagaan's chale chalo and bose's kadam-kadam badhaye jaa can be exchanged, that is no big deal because both are period movies and both set in pre-47 era.
[arr] SICK OF THE Re: sick of the music could have been better (pls MUST READ f
It is not a fight, it is an open discussion between Rawat and myself, both of which are great ARR fans.. and certainly more mature than arguing one point or the other without any base, purely on intuition. Tell me, when did I compare ARR to God? If you read some of my previous mails you'll see I have been telling people to refrain from calling him God. It is a fact that he has God-given heavenly talent, and as you said he is a very gifted human. No one is forcing anyone to read mails that are longer than what they'd like :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Jagdeep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear ST [EMAIL PROTECTED] plese dont needlessly carry a topic beyond elastic limits ( u said ...try to keep it short...)...it disgusts.and moreso ...please indulge in somethign more mature and fruitful for ur time rather than fighting ur mind off for something that has no absolutes ,thru endlessly long mails... and please ARr is no Godhe just another giftted human ( who has his misgivings too...does falter and does fail rediculously bad sometimes..but its all in the game ( smile) .fans love him for his honesty to accept his failures and to move on .) who is doing his duty ( as all should do ) of spreading peace and harmony thru music( smile) . ST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:- ST [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sick of the music could have been better (pls MUST READ for fans) I'll try to make this short, but lets see how it goes.. When I said you picked zubeidaa songs to make your point I agreed that zubeidaa songs cont carry hard traits of the time ans can be replaced into others. Whereas laagaan, bose, rising are more irreplaceable. Partly because of the lyrics and accounts of history ingrained into the song, but partly also because of its sounds. Aren't other replacement possible from pukar to 1947 earth, zubaida, lagaan Yes some will be possible, many not possible. Waltz of romance.. possible in other situations demanding waltz in an british presence, but clearly not otherwise.. so couldnt have been placed even in bose, or 1947 unless the director made changes to his view. And that is an unfair comparison. Chale chalo. sure could have replaced kadam karam badhae ja. Whereas the contrary is not a good choice because kadam kadam was a unique theme of Subhash's army. Still does that mean chale chalo is not unique to lagaan. It conveys every possible concept it needs to. The anger toward british rule, persevierence to beat the opponent, confronting in together in a team etc etc. It just so happens that Bose and lagaan had situations very similar and the song could be replaced. But that wont go into pukaar or swades. Oo palanhare and ek tuu hii bharosaa, sure. Context is pretty much .. whatever!!! M a k e a D i f f e r e n c e !!! - Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages Only in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.com This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: sick of the music could have been better (pls MUST READ for fans)
I'll try to make this short, but lets see how it goes.. When I said you picked zubeidaa songs to make your point I agreed that zubeidaa songs cont carry hard traits of the time ans can be replaced into others. Whereas laagaan, bose, rising are more irreplaceable. Partly because of the lyrics and accounts of history ingrained into the song, but partly also because of its sounds. Aren't other replacement possible from pukar to 1947 earth, zubaida, lagaan Yes some will be possible, many not possible. Waltz of romance.. possible in other situations demanding waltz in an british presence, but clearly not otherwise.. so couldnt have been placed even in bose, or 1947 unless the director made changes to his view. And that is an unfair comparison. Chale chalo. sure could have replaced kadam karam badhae ja. Whereas the contrary is not a good choice because kadam kadam was a unique theme of Subhash's army. Still does that mean chale chalo is not unique to lagaan. It conveys every possible concept it needs to. The anger toward british rule, persevierence to beat the opponent, confronting in together in a team etc etc. It just so happens that Bose and lagaan had situations very similar and the song could be replaced. But that wont go into pukaar or swades. Oo palanhare and ek tuu hii bharosaa, sure. Context is pretty much the same. I dont know how much periodness comes into play when one is worshiping. I guess the period element in palan hare comes from the lytics e.g bhakti ko shakdi do. bhagvaan yeh jeevan, tumhe na savaro ke.. What I find amazing here is how well the melody fits those lyrics. So indirectly it does contain period elements doesnt it. Megha song.. no way wont replace anything! Mahive Mahive from LOBS.. with some modification could be placed in other period/non period situations. But not as it is, the tabla beats in the background are too reminiscent of the olden era. Ofcourse they probably dont resemble anythign of that time, it just creates that feeling. IM sure there are more examples.. just trying to make this one short. Yesterday I downloaded mughal-e-azam songs as I hadnt heard them in a lng time. Naushad has a great talent, ARR possibly has some resemblance of naushad's style of composing tunes out of notes. (I didnt say melody ). After listening to them few times I'm of the view that, to me, Mughal-e-Azam wont last for more than couple of hearings. It is just not attractive for this era. Should ARR compose anything of that (even with modern day reccording technology) it wont last even as long as what he actually releases. Do you tell me Mughal-e-Azam does not have traits of 1960?? ( which is when it was released I think) I dont know 1960s music well, but that what it appears to me as initially. Eventually, the modern day style feel of these songs prevails over period feel of these songs. to me, over the time, the songs get ingrained into the movie. When I hear lagaan songs it will remind me of scenes from the movie, or give me some other feel that I had attatched most to that tune, but doesnt replace with modern day style feel. I'll concede from your examples that many songs of these films can be interchanged. But to me that does not put the songs out of place for the situation demanded, or the situation it arouses through my imagination! Frankly, nobody knows or cares what sounds were used in mughal era, but the past musicians have set a trend by using those heavy instruments to denote the feel of that era. Now people recognize those sounds to be the sounds of mughal era. Agree. If ARR changes those sounds to push some new sounds, people might not digest it, and music and film will flop. Not. Lagaan songs did not flop. Earth 1947 did not flop (atleast among the audience I know of) That is the first misfit aspect of the music. How do you know the director is not to be blamed for that? Do you really think any music director in his right mind would palce a voice of a little kid for a 30 something old lady? Sounds like miscommunicaiton of scenario from director to ARR. but he agains comes us with songs like dhaka lagaa bukaa and shazaade nikale which make peole remind of earlier days and they switch their minds off from ARR. Agree. You're reading my mind too. How can you say the blame is not on people?? But when ARR could manage to win the hearts of hindi crowd with Rangeela, and later taal, now he has no locus standi in saying that he could not understand hindi listeners. I'm sure he understands. The differene is not in musical culture of AR, i was talking about the audience. Sure some hit tamil film songs have been a success in the north, and many have not! If the demographics were the same most albums that were a hit in the south would be a hit in the north and vice versa, but the deviation is too large. He can give the audience another taal or dil se or rangeela. But thats not himi, he doesnt repeat themes. He keeps experimenting and inventing.. I
[arr] Re: sick of the music could have been better (pls MUST READ for fans)
My last reply was in a hurry so I missed the final point: In continuation of the discussion.. Would you blame God or those who do not explore spirituality to its depth to understand it? Similarly if people cant understand ARR music to depth then do they have the right to spill balme on ARR? Ofcourse tehy may not realise that. It cam be accepted if it did not suit their taste, or if they need more time to explore it. How dare they call it disappointing and below expectation?? And the most ridiculous of all, below ARR's standard.. like they have the right yardstick in the first place! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/22/05 9:55 PM India Time, _ST_ wrote: Rawat, thanks for replying.. its good to have a genuine discussion. You claim zubeidaa songs could have been placed into pukaar, but I think that example is picked just to enforce your point. The following is the list of zubaidaa songs. I feel that any of the above could have been in pukaar album instead of Zubaidaa. I was talking about the album and not the film, but let me now give the situations in pukar as well. - dhiime.n\-dhiime.n gaa_uu.N - Madhuri sings the above song in pukar in the beginning. - duur kahii.n ik aam kii bagiyaa ... pyaaraa saa gaa.Nv In jail, Anil Kapoor recalls his mother sining the above song to him in his childhood. - mahakii\-mahakii hai.n raahe.n ... hai.n naa let it replace sunta hai mera khuda - meha.ndii hai rachanevaalii Namrata shirodkar sings the above song thinking about her marriage with anil kapoor - ra.ngiilii ho ... mai.n alabelii madhuri sings the above song in some hotel performance - sayyaa.N chho.Do morii bayyaa.N sayyaa.N namrata sings it anywhere - so gaye hai.n kho gaye hai.n dil ke afasaane madhuri sings this song when she comes to know that Anil is in love with Namrata Could you please enumerate which song(s) listed above would sound out of place among pukaar songs? List of Pukar songs: (supposed be 2000 era) - aa jaa_o kii sab mil ke ... ek tuu hii bharosaa - haay jaanaa.N - naujavaano baat maano ... he ke saraa saraa saraa - phir chalane vaale ... hamaraahii jab ho mastaanaa - qismat se tum hamako mile ho kaise chho.De.Nge - sunataa hai meraa Kudaa Considering the opposite, I now concede that haay jaanaa and sunta hai mera khuda of Pukar can't be put in 1947 earth, zubaida, lagaan. - kay sara sara could NOT be put in lagaan, but can go well with zubaidaa and 1947 earth. Aren't other replacement possible from pukar to 1947 earth, zubaida, lagaan - ek tuu hii bharosaa replaces palanhare even in film. - kay sara sara is sung by Manoj bajpai and Karisma on their first meet in the hotel. - hamarahi jab ho mastaanaa replaces hai naa even in film. - qismat se tum hamako mile ho replaces o rii chhorii. so on. Look at the wider context. yes I agree zubeidaa, with some modifications, could be placed in other movies. It was a period movie, but the songs had general appeal with some modern day style. that is the whole point. Eventually, the modern day style feel of these songs prevails over period feel of these songs. Due to this very reason, critics and listeners have just stopped giving any weightage to MD's claim of period-ness of songs. (yet it was one of the greatest albums to listen to). Now try claiming the same about Lagaan/zubeidaa or lagaan/pukaar, or imagine placing bose or Earth 1947 songs in other non period films. It wont work. Rising wont fit anywhere else, not even in other period movies. List of 1947 Earth songs (supposed to be 1947-ish) - banno raanii tumhe siyaanii honaa hii thaa - dhiimii dhiimii bhiinii bhiinii - iishvar allah tere jahaa.N me.n - raat kii daladal hai gaa.Dhii re gaa.Dhii re - rut aa ga_ii re rut chhaa ga_ii re - ye jo zi.ndagii hai I do think that most of the above songs can be put in other albums, of course not in outright modern albums like duniyaa dilawaalon kii, etc. in fact, I feel ye jo zi.ndagii hai, the song that I consider the best single song of ARR, is having such a modern, even a futuristic feel to it that it was totally out of place among dhiimii dhiimii, raat kii daldal, ishwar allaah of this film. When the director of Gandhi made efforts to get a steam driven engine and paid all expenses to roll it on the rails, then the sounds of that era was needed to go with that train. You can't show a steam engine of 1918 having the sounds and whistle of an electric engine. I agree, but is ARR doing that? I don't see that analogy extending beyond the example you have given. I dont remember if that was part of any music or purely sound fx of the movie. Surely if needed ARR does synthesize sounds of real situations. Train whistle, water dripping, and even synth instruments that sound olden and unique. The
Re: [arr] To Rawat - here's my dissection of your dissection
Whether a song can be put in another film is dependent on much more than just the period element. Inparticular storyline, and the director. every director is unique in his story telling style and even songs from that era just wouldnt fit in. The second factor is the audience. During the Mughal-e-Azam time the audience composition was entirely different. Rising/lagaan brought out the priod element that appeals us, rather than the demographic of 20 or so yrs ago. And even Mughal-e-Azam had traits of the time it was composed in.. Of course, I can't prove any of this without a tape. I havent seen most of the movies you mention. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/22/05 12:28 PM India Time, _Vinayakam Murugan_ wrote: For anybody willing to understand what period films are about should listen to compositions of Naushad (Mughal-e-Azam) and Khayyam (umrao jaan) etc in which they created the sounds of the era in film that film were based. I repeat, Mughal-e-Azam songs would not have been out of place in any of the 1960's movies. In absense of any hard data about period elements put in Mughal-e-azam songs, let me test your hypothesis that those songs can be put in any film. Mughal-e-azam was a 1960 film. some other films of that decade are (set in then current time) Dil Apnaa Aur Preet Paraai/ 1960 Jis Desh Mein Ganga Behti Hai/ 1960 Parakh/ 1960 Bhabhi Ki Chudiyan/ 1961 Gunga Jumna/ 1961 Hum Dono/ 1961 Junglee/ 1961 Sasural/ 1961 Shama/ 1961 Aarti/ 1962 Anpadh/ 1962 Asli Naqli/ 1962 Bees Saal Baad/ 1962 Ek Musafir Ek Hasina/ 1962 to name a few. I have selected some popular names which people might recall. Do you feel that if you find a pyaar kiyaa to Daranaa kyaa or a ai mohabbat zindaabaad or a ye dil kii lagii kam kyaa hogii or a terii mahafil me.n qismat aazamaa ke in the album of, say, Bees Saal Baad, among the songs - kahii.n diip jale kahii.n dil - beqaraar kar ke hame.n yuu.n na jaaiye - zaraa nazaro.n se kah do jii - sapne suhane ladakpan ke you would feel it ok without sensing any time warp? --- On the other hand, - Kisna's hum hai.n is pal yahaa.N could have been used in lakeer instead of paigaam laayaa saawan , and vice versa. - Taal's kahii.n aag lage could have been used in mangal pandey instead of rasiya, and vice versa. - pukar's qismat se tum hamako mile ho could have been used in Lagaan instead of o rii chhorii, and vice versa. And no one would have felt any difference. that's what I am saying that people not feeling the difference is what is causing ARR's songs not getting the weightage that music of a period film gets. -- On the similar note, there had been enough mention in this group itself that ARR had re-used such and such loop and whatever in such and such song of Mangal pandey. That itself tells that ARR feels he can use component of a 1999 based film in a 1857 based film. That is why I am objecting to. I have grown up with this song. What is different in this from the other songs in that era, tell me? If you compare it with ARR's todays music, you will see the difference and this is but to be expected. The recording techniques have improved tremendously over the years. I am not sure whether the same primitiveness can be recreated. People have claimed to have recreated that time and again. As some other mail in this thread said, ARR himself had recreated that in kadam kadam badhaaye jaa and hum dillii dillii jaaye.nge. Only that ARR putting efforts to recreate it in other songs is not all that visible. His interpretation of what could have been the sounds of some bygone era, is open to interpretation by listeners whether they find ARR's composing representing that era or not. And it seems that most of the people have concluded that ARR's music is not period music, hence the letting down of compositions have begun which irked ARR. -- Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak Regards. -- Rawat This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: Reasons behind the rising downfall
I disagree. The singers have done a wonderful job in Rising. Vocal chords are on the spot, crisp and right on the notes - ARR classical tunes are not easy to get on the spot even by some of the most talented singers in the profession. Rising's brilliance is credited not just to ARR but also to the singers and ofcourse superb lyrics. On your second point, I found that initially reused tunes halted expectation - the anticipation factor.. but over many listens I feel that reused tunes have become well ingrained into the song and soon and I associate them as much with this song as with one in the past. I dont think many people on this forums found rising to be disappointing. It might appear so because the topic got reiterated.. notice thought that most people discussing the topic were defending Rising. I agree with the remedies though. Listen loud and keep listening with an open heart. Don't listen to ciritcs, listen to ARR. Afterall, who are we to criticize the God given heavenly talent.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, alam_roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The verdict is clear, Most of us liked the Rising, many of us didn't . What was supposed to be ARR's most awaited album of the year turned out to come in mixed colors. The following points that really went away from the favor of the rising are: (1) No singer, mind you none turned up to his best in the entire album. With Kailash Kher as the main playback singer sung like a frightened Sanskrit teacher chanting couplets of Kabir Das (no pun intended). And the rest of the singers sounded as usual. (2) Reusing of tunes has marred the album considerably. As soon as the Takey Takey song begins you expect Hans Raj Hans to come in and sing in his inimitable voice, but on the contrary you hear a voice that sounds an exacts replica of Hans. And the effect is everlasting; we are tend to break the music system in two pieces. In the end you heave a sigh of relief that saiyaan was a substandard song. The possible remedy to these problems might be: (1) Listen in sony hi fi or any such other music system that compresses the voice, and you are left only with the music and trust me it's a wonderful experience. (2) Or just keep on listening to the tracks unless the singer's voice grows on you, I am sure that it will. This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Rising does justice to late Mangal
Someone asked here why he does more period films instead of commercial.. I will tell you why. Rising is ARR at his best! Well, it is difficult to decide what is ARR's best, the list is long.. Not surprisingly, rising is more classical and folk, but with a twist. He has used synthesized sounds and tech effects stunningly! Some reused beats, but that is insignificant in front of the overall genius of the work. First of all, I have to acknowledge Javed Akhtar's brilliant work without which the tracks probably wouldnt be the same. Vocal control is pretty much airtight on the spot.. especially for the 'sur' demanded by ARR. Kailash Kher takes the cake! Technically, Rising is brilliant. Innovation wise it keeps one hooked to the new sounds and classical tunes - and yet again very very addictive. (i need to sleep.. almost time to wake up) Of all tracks, Mangal Atma is the most emotional piece. As the song progresses ones heart can't help but visualise Mangal's last moments. Silence is a very powerful technique when used well. ARR bring out his talent to do justice to what is to be the most heart wrenching scene in the movie. From the grief of the dawn when he is to be hanged, and the courage one garners just before he is, to the moments when one can't get hold of what just happened. It is orchastrated brilliantly to follow the audience's emotions with the storyline.. as only ARR can. Someone asked here why he does more period films instead of commercial. Answer: He does so because no one else can do justice to the heroes of our motherland. I cant wait to see the movie!! A note: this is a headphone album, average speakers just wont do justice. -S This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: I am sick of the music could have been better comments
Rawat, If anyone knows slightest bit of history about Mangal Pandey he would know the situation and plot to be expected. Okay, so by listening to Rising you can't validate whether it is entirely appropriate. Then you might want to revisit Bose, bhagat singh, laagan etc. He doesnt have to use instruments of that era to create the mood demanded by the situation. Surely no MD in his right mind today would go back and use technology of 1857 to come up with a score for the movie!! Quite contrary to that ARR used more hi-tech effects in Rising. And it is because of his genius that he can do that and still bring about the emotions demanded by the director. It could consider multitude of factors such as culture, locality, era, and most importantly the placement of the song in the storyline. I stopped listening to critics long time ago - I listen to ARR. If people can not admit the brilliance of Rahman, it is only because they can not understand it! Either way, its their loss, not ours :) -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/20/05 7:37 PM India Time, _Ajit_ wrote: Here's my two cents for today. What do people expect from Rahman? To save the earth? Re-align the planets? End hunger? Each and every time that Rahman comes out with a brilliant masterpiece, I hear comments like not up to Rahman's standards or Rahman not at his best or Rahman could have done better. How lame and stupid. Our boss is a genius with respect to his versatility and range of compositions, depth of arrangemens and melody, rich use of sound, and very importantly, fitting the music well to the situations of the movie which demand these types of songs. The songs of the Rising are appropriate for the type of movie and situations in the movie. The question is: How do you know whether they are appropriate for the type of movie and situations or not? Have you seen Mangal Pandey? Do you have some inside information about the movie? If not, then you are talking about faith. Could any other MD have done a better job? are you approving of andho.n me.n kaanaa raajaa theory? Are you saying that Rahman is least bad among all MD? Think hard about that. With Mangal Pandey, what are these critics expecting? A modern day Chaiya Chaiya? Love songs from Taal? When people write reviews, don't they even consider the type of film, period, and story of the film when reviewing the music? I think it is Rahman's doing if people do not consider above factors. A period movie should have music which creates the environment of that period. That means that the songs should use only those instrumnents which were available in that era, and should have lyrics having words/ language used in that era. ARR's earlier period movies all had non-period music. He always used latest instruments and never was particular about lyrics. Kisna was 1947-ish, but hum hain is pal yahaan had nothing 1947-ish feel. it could have been as well a song set in 2006. Even in Rising, the tunes are totally different from most of earlier works, thus some semblance of period has come to it. But did he use only 1857's instruments in it, did he got the lyrics written with 1857's language? If no, then why accuse criticis/ fans when they discount the period-ness of ARR's music. I feel that the music will be vastly more appreciated once the film releases, but nothing excuses such lame and overdone comments as the ones above. I am tired of it. ise chaahiye hamdard kaa sinkaaraa. Give Rahman the credit he deserves. HE works hard. His craftmanship is mindblowing. His melodies are haunting. His knowledge of Indian classical music is astounding. Is he beyond criticism? Of course not. I have no problems with people criticizing his songs based on valid reasons. But, such comments above are simply ridiculous and untrue. Whatever reasons anyone can give, will be valid only for the poster. -- Rawat This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: ah aah.. BIG Disappointment
Sorry to hear you feel that way. Its your loss not ours :) Aha is absolutely fantastic even in poor quality live streaming. Totally orthogonal theme to Rising; can't compare apples with oranges! Rising, Ah Aah - what a wonderful gift! -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Barathan Ananthu Ramachari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi , After a big expectation.. it was totally BIG disappointment after hearing the songs of Ah Aah. I dont feel like hearing again also. There is nothing much or nothing new. I think ARR is being half half and not doing quiet well on these days. Either should give a good music or shoud not give .. I have never given up ARR so far.. but this time.. is not upto any expectation.. Album Rating ** c ya This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: Ah Aah Released!!
From which website can I buy A Aah in the US? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, BoB eevan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H guyz The much awaited A Aah is released now~~~!!! I will grab my copy by tonight __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: Rising very disappointing
We should not be disappointed with ARR choosing to do a particular style of movies. I believe his best work comes out when he composes for a purpose he respects and enjoys working for. Whether he does period movies, commercial film, broadway musical, or personal album, all that matters to me is the talent that goes into each work. In the past he period movies has brought out some fantastic tunes. I'd be wary of jurging his compositions too early; it often takes a while to understand. As for the rating, let us decide for outselves where Rising falls in the ARR spectrum of work. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, adnanakkm4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am a damn fan of rahman n live in dubai. I got the copy of rising but it was very very disappointing n except for one track. i shld recommend rahman to stop doing period movies n go for more commercial movies with shankar,maniratnam,subhash ghai etc. now i got y producer bobby bedi gave his latest project to some other music director due to the drawback of rising. i guarantee that rising music will be a flop. my rating for rising 4/10 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: If Mozart were alive . . .
Hey Guys, I don't interpret it as a mere comparison; its an analogy.. times are different. Mozart was the best of his time and ARR is the best of ours. Media has popularized a phrase for describing ARR - Mozart of the West. Does that not offend Mozart fans? I'm sure it does a little. Despite that it gained popularity in the media because it is difficult to convey the greatness of ARR without comparing it to something the audience is familiar with. I think this statement serves the same purpose. -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Guruprasad S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yaa I too feel the same... we should not hurt others or compare Rahman's greatness with others Mozart was great in some ways and so is Rahman... comparing them is not the right way of proving the maestro in Rahman. I am very sure if ARR sees this quote he will never agree to it. So kindly think about such quotes... Regards, Guru On 24/06/05, up84mouli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear fans, Am I the only one who thinks calling Mozart himself as Rahman is right?? Dont you think any Mozart fans reading this will feel that we are a bunch of fanatics??? What would Rahman feel about us (this group) if he comes to know Okay, someday if a HJ, Yuvan, or Anu Malik fan does the same thing (Call Rahman as a Anu Malik of South for example) and puts it on T-Shirts, Caps and Jeans, how the hell will you react or feel about it? Think twice carefully before selecting this quote... IT CLEARLY DOES NOT APPEAL TO THE PERSONALITY We all love and support. Above all, dont you think it is far better to relate Rahman with more natural but global words?? Like say, TsUNEAMI, Rahman - The R of Rhythms or something more simpler but creative enough to make a lasting impression on the reader's minds... Do give it a thought. Sorry if I have hurt someone's feelings. This was just my opinion. Thanks. Chandra. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, dharshi_maha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this one but I think it needs to be re-phrased a bit to add a writer's touch to it. The original one Mozart is not Alive.. Else he would be called Rahman of the West is far better. just my view. that's all Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [arr] :: Important regd T-shirts :: (Hey Folks... Read IT)
I hate to be debating on this topic because our goal is the same. We want to be proud supporting ARR in public via the tshirt, and ofcourse we want publicity for ARR. He is the greatest composer of our time and more people from around the world ought to know about his magic. Music Composer/Singer label would do. But I don't think it will attract any unfamiliar crowd because, although it conveys the point, it seems mundane to me. (just my subjective opinion) Something like If Mozart was alive he would be called Rahman of the West.. not only conveys the point that he is a musical composer, it is more intriguing, especially to a non-indian. I belive something catchy will make people want to explore and see who he is.. afterall isnt that what we all want? People in Auckland are more receptive to other cultures, but Americans are not. We need to give them good enough reason to explore something otherwise they are uncomfortable with the change. ARR himself said somethign similar once when asked about disappointment with bombay dreams in the US. Anyway, these are just my 2-cents.. Tshirt creators have the right to choose whatever they wish after hearing our arguments. Happy ARRing.. -S --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, vinod ramamoorthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey raju,shiva n others Like guru said ...I also think the man ,the music ,the magic would explain that he is not a football player ..pls !! ...And guys this is a tshirt abt our boss ...so the search quote also does nt fit in too well ..my suggestion is to keep it simple ...At the front the man .the music .the magic logo along with pic ..at teh back the unity of light enlarged pic and a signature ...lets not try n sell or give publicity to rahman here thru this ...I believe his music alone would b good enuf for that ...I know we r sitting n debating when we shud ve started the printing work ..but its worth a debate ...we cant change it once we r moving into it ...so think !! --- SHIVAKUMAR VA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - HI Folks.. Just go through the mail that RAJU has writen. CAN U UNDERSTAND NOW the reason behind keeping that slogan??? Just Scroll down n read it. Thanks n Regards Bharath KV n Shivakumar VA --- a.r.rahman. 786 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have like all hard work by the fans here . the design look impressive and good and cool and but, see.. all r thinking about ppl in india only . and its right, every body in india knows what is A R R . but imagine one of this grp mmbr in california wearing shirt . what do you think will american ppl think about that ? what can they say from the shirt . ? is rahman footbal player ? hero ? philosophic teacher ? or another extrimist ? they cant imagine anything from that . who will understand that he is a musician ? or composer ? it is a mistake if we think that everybody know A R R . it is very important to mention about his music . that is why u have mentioned some thing like musician / instrumentalist / singer there . now, lets think in a different direction on the search-dest sentence . dont think all the americans or foreigners very easily accept a un-familier islamic name . my self very well know how american act to muslims . what do they imagine if they see a name with no connection with anything ? and specially with a quote like search-dest . went crazy and or what? search-dest is ok but u cannot put on shirt ok ? . the line must be telling about his music . and more to that , ppl very easily finds faults with such quotes . and u cannot argue with people . forget all.. i am just trying to make my point very clear . sounds harsh . but take it in good faith . dont miss understand me . raju . __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To
Re: [arr] :: Important regd T-shirts ::
Hi Bharat, Clearly there are two sides to the coin. I agree with both arguments - it is necessary to convey who he is, but at the same time we dont want to make it seem like a product label. I'm sure together this group can come up with a slightly more catchy phrase than Music composer / Singer. Few suggestions that come to mind: Musical Genius The Genius in Music Musical Genius of Our Time Master of Melody The Soul of Eternal Music An ardent fan of the greatest musical genious of our time The Spirit of Melody Listen. And you will be Addicted. Or If this was to be a Nike type branding ad: Just Listen. heh.. -S ..or maybe someone else can come up with something better. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, || V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A suggestioninstead of writing only Music composer / singeradd some spice to it by writing Greatest Music Composer of India. or Music Genius of India. I think this will make those ppl quiet curious who didn't know about A R R... Regards, -Vishwesh. Bharat K V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guyz Gurlz, Caption I'm pretty sad to see lot of people not satisfied with the designatleast with the caption. First lemme justify why I have put the words Music composer / singer 1. There are a lot of response from countries like UAE, Australia, USA, Malayasia, Singapore, Srilanka, UK etc...We people in India know in and out of Rahman. But imagine people abroad. They might be wondering who (looking at the photo) this guy is, I mean the foreigners. The search is more important than the destination. -A R Rahman. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Re: ARRMUSIC! (a possible answer to spiteful badmouthing of ARR)
Sunil, Dasun, and other ARRies Just by reading your response I feel that the time spent writing it out was well worth it. It is wonderful to see that true appreciators of ARR's talents pass-by the forums. Indeed, I also hope that one day ARR catches up on not just this message, but many others left by true fans, and reslises his real achievement - earning a large number of true fans in a very precarious industry, who understand and thoroughly appreciate the depth of his work. I hope our group can settle on this thought and save us all time from bickering on industry views criticizing the genius. Surely it is most attractive to thump the infallible from a journalistic point of view, but the audience at this group is smarter than that. Usually I pass by such comments but seeing an ARR fan waver between his intuition and societal response, it had to be answered. Most of us have and will in the future face ridicule for remaining a devotee of ARR, and I hope everyone who supports him despite the criticizm has a decent back-firing shot up their sleeves. I am not disturbed if others are a fan of SEL, Illayaraja, Stevie Wonder, Emenim, or Mozart - people have different tastes and let them be - it is their loss for forgoing the beauty in ARR numbers. But disrespecting ARR or a fan of ARR only shows me their inaptitude from a musical sense. Dasun, you asked about me.. When ARR was not discovered to me I lived in Gujarat. By the time I realised I had found a gem I was in NZ. And now when the glitters of this gem are thoroughly weaved into my lifestyle, I am in the US - currently I'm a graduate student in U. of Texas at Austin. (anyone else in austin?). Who knows where I'll be tomorrow; but sure to say that I'll be floating in the sea of ARR melodies. Live on.. -S(ahil) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sunil VG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sahil, First of all, thanks for sending this mail. Hats off to you for expressing your thoughts so beautifully and intelligently. It was the most moving mail I have read in a long time. I hope someday ARR finds enough time to read your mail! It is evident that you FEEL his music and not merely listen. Over the years, I feel I have grown with his music which has matured and reached a stage where one wonders, how can he ever make this any better? Before you know it he composes a Meenaxi, then a Swades and then a Bose and answers your question. While we are left to absorb the subtle complexities of his creations, he moves on with his quest. Here's a legend who is perhaps the most underrated ever, probably because he achieved so much at his age. Regards, Sunil From: ST [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] Re: ARRMUSIC! (a possible answer to spiteful badmouthing of ARR) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 03:45:23 - Fellow ARR Fans (especially taurus8_0) In response to your rightful concern and comments about the direction of ARR music in recent times, I have few comments that you may (or may not) agree with. Everyone has their own reason for remaining a true fan of ARR. Here is mine. To me, the box office results in no way represent the quality of the movie or the talent of its producers. Many fantastic peices of work have bombed, and besides the odd ones like Laagan, ones that do well have little more than the classic bollywood story and style to offer. If it were not for ARR and very few other talented actors and directors, I would not be paying attention to bollywood films or music! And by same reason I do pay attention to ARR's tamil albums, despite being a Northie. Clearly, popular music in no way exacts musical talent. The beats and melody (if even) are purely icing that fade away sooner than the commercials promoting them. What I find most shameful about the industry is that 95% of the tunes are 1) unoriginal and repetitive of their older work and/or 2) blatantly stolen under the ideal of inspired from.. and/or 3) of same or similar style with different instruments, arrangement, and singers and ( either 4. lack the the notes that press the right keys to convey the right emotions OR 5. posses the notes to convey an emotion, however those that have become too obvious in the industry i.e. lack the range OR 6. do this job well, and I respect those rare few, but lack the magical x-factor that ARR has proved to be carrying since Roja ) ARR's music, on the other hand, provides purity and shows integrity. First time I listen to any piece it is like an enigma. To an untrained ear like mine, it is a partial blurr. As I listen to it over and over, I uncover to more and more depth, what he is trying to convey in the song. The instruments, musical arrangement, background track, range of melodies, novelty of the overall work, and the special something he always fills up in the middle of the track. The more I hear, the more I
[arr] Re: ARRMUSIC! (a possible answer to spiteful badmouthing of ARR)
Fellow ARR Fans (especially taurus8_0) In response to your rightful concern and comments about the direction of ARR music in recent times, I have few comments that you may (or may not) agree with. Everyone has their own reason for remaining a true fan of ARR. Here is mine. To me, the box office results in no way represent the quality of the movie or the talent of its producers. Many fantastic peices of work have bombed, and besides the odd ones like Laagan, ones that do well have little more than the classic bollywood story and style to offer. If it were not for ARR and very few other talented actors and directors, I would not be paying attention to bollywood films or music! And by same reason I do pay attention to ARR's tamil albums, despite being a Northie. Clearly, popular music in no way exacts musical talent. The beats and melody (if even) are purely icing that fade away sooner than the commercials promoting them. What I find most shameful about the industry is that 95% of the tunes are 1) unoriginal and repetitive of their older work and/or 2) blatantly stolen under the ideal of inspired from.. and/or 3) of same or similar style with different instruments, arrangement, and singers and ( either 4. lack the the notes that press the right keys to convey the right emotions OR 5. posses the notes to convey an emotion, however those that have become too obvious in the industry i.e. lack the range OR 6. do this job well, and I respect those rare few, but lack the magical x-factor that ARR has proved to be carrying since Roja ) ARR's music, on the other hand, provides purity and shows integrity. First time I listen to any piece it is like an enigma. To an untrained ear like mine, it is a partial blurr. As I listen to it over and over, I uncover to more and more depth, what he is trying to convey in the song. The instruments, musical arrangement, background track, range of melodies, novelty of the overall work, and the special something he always fills up in the middle of the track. The more I hear, the more I discover what I was missing or misinterpreting when I had heard it before. It is a well known phenomenon that some or most of ARR's songs get better over time. And I remember reading his interview once where he provided a possible explanation saying that because they are generally completely new tunes and melodies that people have not imagined before, it takes time to digest. Now, as for the criticizm of his recent works, I say that those who find his recent efforts repetitive and unattractive just dont understand music to a level that is required to appreciate ARR. In his earlier days, when he came out with Roja, Thiruta Thiruda, Rangeela, Bombay, etc.. people cherished them because they were very differently composed to what they had been hearing for years, and in a good way. I doubt the entire fan base understood the elegance of his composition. Those that did (like us ofcourse ) are still his grateful fans. We still appreciate his talents and by no means are we blind worshipers. Blind are those who can not see the beauty in ARR's work. I concede that not all of his works appear attractive, original, and of the standard he has set himself. In my experience what appears today does not stand true for ARR's music tomorrow. And one more thing, the same kind of songs that people pick-out to badmouth him today were being produced in his early days also. E.g. Patti rap - Muqabla, Jor Laaga - Chor Chor, Jo manga tha - Kabhi na Khabhi. But after listening to them many times over the years I have realised even those that dont seem attractive on the surface possess ARR's raw talent, in some form or other. As for the recent works, do they not carry the genius of ARR? Some examples..picking out 2-3 at random from these recent albums. DJAK - Jane Bahara - Listen to it in the right mood it will arouse unique feelings that is the mark of ARR sice Roja..also heads up to the lyrics (at some places). Can anyone else end a song as smoothly as this? - Zindagi hai dua - forget the vocals and focus on the instrumentation.. just that use of greekish guitar with piano is the proof of his super talent. Lakeer - Saadiya - saadiya saadiya saadiya haai.. you dont find originality and talent in this? the way naino ke shishe me saya hai kiska, luk chup ke chanda ke jaisa.. kashti yeh dil, kehti hai mil saagar hai ishq kaa... is sung, you dont find these lines unique, extraordinary, and containing ARR's genius Listen to it again if you dont. And again, until you do because trust me if you've liked ARR's earlier works, sooner or later it will come to you. - shehzade - not a big fan of these lyrics and little bit bombastic, but that seems to be the purpose of it. listen to about 1 min 30 seconds.. and pure genius at 2:53 and overall does it not put you in different shoes? Listen to it few more times dude. Boys - Listen to it from the point of view of the right audience and it is as innovative as his
[arr] Re: Lord of the rings
Intro is great.. you can feel the second part of music sequence is by Rahman, first probably by the finnish group. The producer mentions about ARR and music collaboration in the interview section - worth a read. Cant wait till the soundtrack comes out! Caaant waaaitt --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/c9hWNA/3MnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/