Re: [arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj

2008-10-22 Thread Prakash Balaramkrishna
Rediff gave 4 stars to Jodhaa Akbar too!





From: Nagaraj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 7:11:25 PM
Subject: [arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj




I am regular reader of rediff and I cant remember any album getting 
4/5.. So whether a few out here like it or not critics have liked 
it :)

--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Sai Theodore saitheodore@ ... 
wrote:

 here is the full article
 
 That A R Rahman is a master composer is no biggie. What is truly 
commendable
 is that he has earned an unblemished reputation of someone whose 
name alone
 sends promises of astounding melody. And so, at the risk of 
gushing, I'd say
 any soundtrack by him is like an event itself, more significant 
than hugely
 popular stars and their purported demigod status.
 
 This year, he took us on a breathtaking tour of royalty and romance 
with the
 majestic *Jodhaa Akbar
 [Imageshttp://search. rediff.com/ imgsrch/default. php?MT=jodhaa%
20akbar
 ] *and followed it with the frolic-filled, foot-tapping trendiness 
in the
 youthful beats of *Jaane
 Tu[Imageshttp://search. rediff.com/ imgsrch/default. php?MT=jaane%
20tu
 ]... Ya Jaane Na*.
 
- *Why we should look forward
 toYuvvraajhttp://specials. rediff.com/ movies/2008/ oct/20slid1. htm
*
 
 Next, he helms Subhash
 Ghai's[Imageshttp://search. rediff.com/ imgsrch/default. php?
MT=subhash%20ghai
 ] lavishly-staged, *Yuvvraaj*, inspired in soul and element from 
European
 and Indian classical as well as Rahman's exclusive library of 
imagination.
 Being a wide-ranging musical, *Yuvvraaj*, starring Salman Khan
 [Imageshttp://search. rediff.com/ imgsrch/default. php?MT=salman%
20khan
 ], Katrina Kaif
 [Imageshttp://search. rediff.com/ imgsrch/default. php?MT=katrina%
20kaif
 ], Zayed Khan [Imageshttp://search. rediff.com/ imgsrch/default. php?
MT=zayed%20khan
 ] and Anil Kapoor
 [Imageshttp://search. rediff.com/ imgsrch/default. php?MT=anil%
20kapoor
 ], like Ghai's *Taal
[Imageshttp://search. rediff.com/ imgsrch/default. php?MT=taal
 ]*, is every music-aficionado' s delight.
 
 Here's why:
 
 Besides the CD layout, there's not much *Yuvvraaj *shares in common 
with *
 Taal*. The latter was deliberately theatrical and consisted folk-
tune
 flavours. This one is marvelously smooth and meadow-fresh, 
conjuring lilting
 images of Prague and Austria, where it has been extensively filmed. 
At the
 same time, it packs in enough complex emotions of its own.
 
 The soundtrack opens with *Main hoon Yuvvraaj*, wherein Salman Khan 
spews
 hard-to-miss sarcasm, introducing himself as the proverbial 'bad 
boy'
 against the etched-in-every- memory Fifth of Beethoven (performed by 
The
 Chennai String Orchestra). He has a point to prove, a notion to 
dispel. And
 he does it, with spirit, beauty and Benny Dayal (of *Pappu can't 
dance
 saala *fame)'s striking vocals, through Gulzar's
 [Imageshttp://search. rediff.com/ imgsrch/default. php?MT=gulzar
 ] wistful poetry and Rahman's inventive intricacy of* Tu meri dost 
hain*.
 
 [image: Katrina Kaif]The lingering rhythm of *Tu meri dost *is 
swapped for
 the zingy, retro, disco-friendly beats of *Shano Shano*. An 
animated line-up
 of singers, right from Sonu Nigam
 [Imageshttp://search. rediff.com/ imgsrch/default. php?MT=sonu%
20nigam
 ], Srinivas to Sunaina, Vivienna Pocha bring the house down in this
 club-meets-lounge ditty.  Its remix by Krishna Chetan, featuring 
Ember, is a
 dry and darker rap-inclusive interpretation of the racy original.
 
 *Tu muskura* is a lyrical delight sending a wave of goose bumps 
across the
 enamoured listener. Gulzar's vivid wizardry pours its heart out 
through
 verse like, '*Sharir see yeh muskurahatein teri. Badan main sunti 
hoon main
 aahatein teri*.' Needless to say it takes Rahman's exquisite touch 
to cast
 these delicate words into the silhouette of his melodies.
 
 Sonu Nigam lends his characteristic velvetiness to the peppy hues 
of *Mastam
 mastam*, again overflowing with Gulzar's graphic thoughts (*Bheje 
mein
 bhochal hain, pairon mein paatal hain*). Effortlessly free-flowing, 
*Mastam*'s
 USP lies in its being entertaining and silvery, at once.
 
 [image: Anil Kapoor]Misty- eyed poignancy breathes effectively 
through the
 melancholic realisation of *Zindagi*. Rendered with excellent 
restraint and
 stirring sentiment by Srinivas, against Rahman's deft play of 
woodwinds and
 breezy strings, this is easily one of *Yuvvraj*'s best compositions.
 
 Piano, cello and other participants of a grand orchestra and 
powerful chorus
 create a vision of escalating drama of sibling bonding under 
Rahman's
 intense guidance and signature *alaap. Dil ka rishta *is his brand 
of
 symphony, generating a state of big-screen showmanship and 
mellifluous
 festivities.
 
 The vigorously classical notes of Manmohini morey, with a 
conspicuous stamp
 of Rahman's whiz-kid personality, are grippingly and flawlessly 
translated

[arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-22 Thread nazeef mohammed
Correct. Taal, the songs were independent of the movie and each other. They
were just inserted appropriately. AR was hardly bound by limitations. In the
case of Yuvvraaj, being a musical (in the sense of script I mean), all the
songs are interwoven. Implying, the songs add to the screenplay, carry the
script and the story forward. We need to watch the movie to understand why
Yuvvraaj is not another Taal. Although
I've never liked SG's style of movie making (personal opinion, Im allowed
to)


[arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-22 Thread Jahanzeb Farooq
 Please, let me decide what I am going to accept. You can't dictate 
like this, buddy.

take it easy buddy, it was NOT directed towards you or any other 
individual, it was only said in a general sense. no one is dictating 
you or anyone else here. 

 Yuvraj is having all the potential of becoming the biggest 
commercial hit of ARR's career.

well i seriously doubt it. i dont see yuvvraaj staying in charts more 
than JTYJN or JA UNLESS THE FILM BECOMES A BLOCKBUSTER. and btw i 
doubt the success of film too, dont know why but keeping in mind 
ghai's recent record i have this feeling that ghai can lost it. if it 
is bombed or becomes an average i seriously doubt that music will stay  
in charts long.

 And, me think, that is what Ghai wanted - compromise on mindblowing 
song and give an outright commercial hit. 

how can an album become an outright commercial hit without any 
mindblowing songs??? sorry dude, for me it is hard to understand your 
theory.

 Why are you so inclined on keeping us fans in a separate category 
apart from masses? Does it satisfy your ego that you are on a higher 
ivory tower as a fan compared to lowly, meanly, measly masses. It is 
not so. We are all humans, made equal by our Creator.

i must say you got it all wrong here. your last two comments (ego and 
humans/equal) are irrelevant to my post and don't make sense to me. 
the difference between fans and masses is that fans are aware of ARR's 
music and style, and understand when ARR gives something 
new/different. the second difference is that if fans dislike music in 
first hearing they give it second chance because they know hidden 
masterpiece in ARR's music and that it grows. on the other hand masses (by 
masses i am referring to non-ARR fans) just skip the song/music 
and may never return to it.

 The only album of ARR that I outright disliked is Love Bird.

difference of tastes/opinions. love birds has milgaye milgaye, a 
masterpiece, one of my oldest favorites and most listened ARR songs.

 ARR has capability to make Manmohini 2 hours song, but Ghai wouldn't 
put a 2 hours manmohini in his film. So why make it 2 hours?

it is simple. if ghai wants to put a short 3 minutes song in film, why 
not compose a full 5-6 minutes song and put only 3 minuites of it in 
film? is it something not already thousands of times in various films ?

 Sapney had two mediocre songs also, that prayer and that duet

dont know which duet you are referring to. ek bagiya, chanda re, awara 
bhawre and the prayer (roshan hui raat) all are nothing short of 
masterpiece to me. 

  From the above list of yours, remove Mani. he he he.

i did not mean a particular list. i just randomly mentioned few of  
his biggest hits but the list was not limited to only that.

 And Ghai-ARR combo has delivered exactly what masses would love.

i doubt.

 Ghai thinks different from you for his music based film.

may be. here i have to agree with you.



thanks


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10/21/2008 10:10 PM India Time, _Jahanzeb Farooq_ wrote:
 
  man you have to accept it.
 
 Please, let me decide what I am going to accept. You can't dictate 
like 
 this, buddy.
 
  although it is growing on us and we have 
  started liking more compared to the first time, but the fact 
remains 
  that it is not something liked by the masses. only one song Tu 
meri 
  dost would be liked by the masses but not the rest.
 
 No way. Shano and Mastam are going to be on every youth's tongue, me 
think.
 
  even recent ARR 
  albums had many songs loved by masses (and critics) e.g., Tere 
bina, 
  Mayya mayya, Barso re (Guru), Pappu, Aditi, Kahin to (JTYJN) etc 
etc. 
 
 Agreed. So?
 
  Furthermore the fact remains that Yuvvraaj does not have even a 
single 
  song which can be called just mibdblowing or plain awesome as per 
the 
  ARR standards etc.
 
 Hmm. I thought about it and I find that I have to agree with you.
 
 So, I also concede that even though Yuvraj is an album for the 
masses 
 and it has good softer songs also (manmohini, zindagi), still, I 
have to 
 agree that there is no mindblowing song AS PER ARR STANDARDS.
 
 I think that is the area where the freedom ARR gets makes the whole 
 difference. Mani gives ARR complete freedom, so ARR's every Mani 
album 
 has one or more mindblowing songs. Deepa mehta gives ARR complete 
 freedom, so ARR's every Deepa album has one or more mindblowing 
songs.
 
 But, even though Ghai's inputs have done wonders in Taal and Yuvraj, 
 those have restricted ARR from giving a mindblowing song in Yuvraj.
 
 But, I would not complain. ARR is operating in a commercial world, 
and 
 Yuvraj is having all the potential of becoming the biggest 
commercial 
 hit of ARR's career. That would help him. And it would help us fans 
also 
 when we get ridiculed by ARR's detractors who never fail to 
highlight 
 when Pritam or Himesh's songs top the chart.
 
 And, me think, that is what Ghai wanted - 

[arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-22 Thread Chord
Jahazeb,

Irrespective of how you think the masses will take to Yuvvraaj which 
nobody knows right now, how does the music make you feel?  Leave your 
expectations aside.  Forget Taal.  When you listen to Yuvvraaj, do 
you feel good?  Does it touch you?  Does it lift your spirits?  If 
yes, forget all this analysis.  Just go with the flow and enjoy the 
music.  It's a gift from Rahman.  If the answer is no, give it some 
more chances.  If still you don't feel good when listening to 
Yuvvraaj, just forget it and move on.  Ghajini is next.




--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Jahanzeb Farooq 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Please, let me decide what I am going to accept. You can't 
dictate 
 like this, buddy.
 
 take it easy buddy, it was NOT directed towards you or any other 
 individual, it was only said in a general sense. no one is 
dictating 
 you or anyone else here. 
 
  Yuvraj is having all the potential of becoming the biggest 
 commercial hit of ARR's career.
 
 well i seriously doubt it. i dont see yuvvraaj staying in charts 
more 
 than JTYJN or JA UNLESS THE FILM BECOMES A BLOCKBUSTER. and btw i 
 doubt the success of film too, dont know why but keeping in mind 
 ghai's recent record i have this feeling that ghai can lost it. if 
it 
 is bombed or becomes an average i seriously doubt that music will 
stay  
 in charts long.
 
  And, me think, that is what Ghai wanted - compromise on 
mindblowing 
 song and give an outright commercial hit. 
 
 how can an album become an outright commercial hit without any 
 mindblowing songs??? sorry dude, for me it is hard to understand 
your 
 theory.
 
  Why are you so inclined on keeping us fans in a separate category 
 apart from masses? Does it satisfy your ego that you are on a 
higher 
 ivory tower as a fan compared to lowly, meanly, measly masses. It 
is 
 not so. We are all humans, made equal by our Creator.
 
 i must say you got it all wrong here. your last two comments (ego 
and 
 humans/equal) are irrelevant to my post and don't make sense to me. 
 the difference between fans and masses is that fans are aware of 
ARR's 
 music and style, and understand when ARR gives something 
 new/different. the second difference is that if fans dislike music 
in 
 first hearing they give it second chance because they know hidden 
 masterpiece in ARR's music and that it grows. on the other hand 
masses (by masses i am referring to non-ARR fans) just skip the 
song/music 
 and may never return to it.
 
  The only album of ARR that I outright disliked is Love Bird.
 
 difference of tastes/opinions. love birds has milgaye milgaye, a 
 masterpiece, one of my oldest favorites and most listened ARR songs.
 
  ARR has capability to make Manmohini 2 hours song, but Ghai 
wouldn't 
 put a 2 hours manmohini in his film. So why make it 2 hours?
 
 it is simple. if ghai wants to put a short 3 minutes song in film, 
why 
 not compose a full 5-6 minutes song and put only 3 minuites of it 
in 
 film? is it something not already thousands of times in various 
films ?
 
  Sapney had two mediocre songs also, that prayer and that duet
 
 dont know which duet you are referring to. ek bagiya, chanda re, 
awara 
 bhawre and the prayer (roshan hui raat) all are nothing short of 
 masterpiece to me. 
 
   From the above list of yours, remove Mani. he he he.
 
 i did not mean a particular list. i just randomly mentioned few of  
 his biggest hits but the list was not limited to only that.
 
  And Ghai-ARR combo has delivered exactly what masses would love.
 
 i doubt.
 
  Ghai thinks different from you for his music based film.
 
 may be. here i have to agree with you.
 
 
 
 thanks
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsrawat@ wrote:
 
  On 10/21/2008 10:10 PM India Time, _Jahanzeb Farooq_ wrote:
  
   man you have to accept it.
  
  Please, let me decide what I am going to accept. You can't 
dictate 
 like 
  this, buddy.
  
   although it is growing on us and we have 
   started liking more compared to the first time, but the fact 
 remains 
   that it is not something liked by the masses. only one song Tu 
 meri 
   dost would be liked by the masses but not the rest.
  
  No way. Shano and Mastam are going to be on every youth's tongue, 
me 
 think.
  
   even recent ARR 
   albums had many songs loved by masses (and critics) e.g., Tere 
 bina, 
   Mayya mayya, Barso re (Guru), Pappu, Aditi, Kahin to (JTYJN) 
etc 
 etc. 
  
  Agreed. So?
  
   Furthermore the fact remains that Yuvvraaj does not have even a 
 single 
   song which can be called just mibdblowing or plain awesome as 
per 
 the 
   ARR standards etc.
  
  Hmm. I thought about it and I find that I have to agree with you.
  
  So, I also concede that even though Yuvraj is an album for the 
 masses 
  and it has good softer songs also (manmohini, zindagi), still, I 
 have to 
  agree that there is no mindblowing song AS PER ARR STANDARDS.
  
  I think that is the area where the freedom ARR gets makes the 

[arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj

2008-10-21 Thread Sai Theodore
here is the full article

That A R Rahman is a master composer is no biggie. What is truly commendable
is that he has earned an unblemished reputation of someone whose name alone
sends promises of astounding melody. And so, at the risk of gushing, I'd say
any soundtrack by him is like an event itself, more significant than hugely
popular stars and their purported demigod status.

This year, he took us on a breathtaking tour of royalty and romance with the
majestic *Jodhaa Akbar
[Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=jodhaa%20akbar
] *and followed it with the frolic-filled, foot-tapping trendiness in the
youthful beats of *Jaane
Tu[Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=jaane%20tu
]... Ya Jaane Na*.

   - *Why we should look forward
toYuvvraajhttp://specials.rediff.com/movies/2008/oct/20slid1.htm
   *

Next, he helms Subhash
Ghai's[Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=subhash%20ghai
] lavishly-staged, *Yuvvraaj*, inspired in soul and element from European
and Indian classical as well as Rahman's exclusive library of imagination.
Being a wide-ranging musical, *Yuvvraaj*, starring Salman Khan
[Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=salman%20khan
], Katrina Kaif
[Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=katrina%20kaif
], Zayed Khan 
[Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=zayed%20khan
] and Anil Kapoor
[Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=anil%20kapoor
], like Ghai's 
*Taal[Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=taal
]*, is every music-aficionado's delight.

Here's why:

Besides the CD layout, there's not much *Yuvvraaj *shares in common with *
Taal*. The latter was deliberately theatrical and consisted folk-tune
flavours. This one is marvelously smooth and meadow-fresh, conjuring lilting
images of Prague and Austria, where it has been extensively filmed. At the
same time, it packs in enough complex emotions of its own.

The soundtrack opens with *Main hoon Yuvvraaj*, wherein Salman Khan spews
hard-to-miss sarcasm, introducing himself as the proverbial 'bad boy'
against the etched-in-every-memory Fifth of Beethoven (performed by The
Chennai String Orchestra). He has a point to prove, a notion to dispel. And
he does it, with spirit, beauty and Benny Dayal (of *Pappu can't dance
saala *fame)'s striking vocals, through Gulzar's
[Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=gulzar
] wistful poetry and Rahman's inventive intricacy of* Tu meri dost hain*.

[image: Katrina Kaif]The lingering rhythm of *Tu meri dost *is swapped for
the zingy, retro, disco-friendly beats of *Shano Shano*. An animated line-up
of singers, right from Sonu Nigam
[Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=sonu%20nigam
], Srinivas to Sunaina, Vivienna Pocha bring the house down in this
club-meets-lounge ditty.  Its remix by Krishna Chetan, featuring Ember, is a
dry and darker rap-inclusive interpretation of the racy original.

*Tu muskura* is a lyrical delight sending a wave of goose bumps across the
enamoured listener. Gulzar's vivid wizardry pours its heart out through
verse like, '*Sharir see yeh muskurahatein teri. Badan main sunti hoon main
aahatein teri*.' Needless to say it takes Rahman's exquisite touch to cast
these delicate words into the silhouette of his melodies.

Sonu Nigam lends his characteristic velvetiness to the peppy hues of *Mastam
mastam*, again overflowing with Gulzar's graphic thoughts (*Bheje mein
bhochal hain, pairon mein paatal hain*). Effortlessly free-flowing, *Mastam*'s
USP lies in its being entertaining and silvery, at once.

[image: Anil Kapoor]Misty-eyed poignancy breathes effectively through the
melancholic realisation of *Zindagi*. Rendered with excellent restraint and
stirring sentiment by Srinivas, against Rahman's deft play of woodwinds and
breezy strings, this is easily one of *Yuvvraj*'s best compositions.

Piano, cello and other participants of a grand orchestra and powerful chorus
create a vision of escalating drama of sibling bonding under Rahman's
intense guidance and signature *alaap. Dil ka rishta *is his brand of
symphony, generating a state of big-screen showmanship and mellifluous
festivities.

The vigorously classical notes of Manmohini morey, with a conspicuous stamp
of Rahman's whiz-kid personality, are grippingly and flawlessly translated
by Vijay Prakash.

Ultimately, *Yuvvraaj *is a triumphant score from the maestro. For all its
meticulous arrangement and old-world grandeur, it's essentially deep-rooted
in timeless melody, which seldom disappoints.

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Sai Theodore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.rediff.com/movies/2008/oct/21yuv.htm



[arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj

2008-10-21 Thread Nagaraj


I am regular reader of rediff and I cant remember any album getting 
4/5.. So whether a few out here like it or not critics have liked 
it :)

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sai Theodore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 here is the full article
 
 That A R Rahman is a master composer is no biggie. What is truly 
commendable
 is that he has earned an unblemished reputation of someone whose 
name alone
 sends promises of astounding melody. And so, at the risk of 
gushing, I'd say
 any soundtrack by him is like an event itself, more significant 
than hugely
 popular stars and their purported demigod status.
 
 This year, he took us on a breathtaking tour of royalty and romance 
with the
 majestic *Jodhaa Akbar
 [Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=jodhaa%
20akbar
 ] *and followed it with the frolic-filled, foot-tapping trendiness 
in the
 youthful beats of *Jaane
 Tu[Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=jaane%
20tu
 ]... Ya Jaane Na*.
 
- *Why we should look forward
 toYuvvraajhttp://specials.rediff.com/movies/2008/oct/20slid1.htm
*
 
 Next, he helms Subhash
 Ghai's[Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?
MT=subhash%20ghai
 ] lavishly-staged, *Yuvvraaj*, inspired in soul and element from 
European
 and Indian classical as well as Rahman's exclusive library of 
imagination.
 Being a wide-ranging musical, *Yuvvraaj*, starring Salman Khan
 [Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=salman%
20khan
 ], Katrina Kaif
 [Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=katrina%
20kaif
 ], Zayed Khan [Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?
MT=zayed%20khan
 ] and Anil Kapoor
 [Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=anil%
20kapoor
 ], like Ghai's *Taal
[Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=taal
 ]*, is every music-aficionado's delight.
 
 Here's why:
 
 Besides the CD layout, there's not much *Yuvvraaj *shares in common 
with *
 Taal*. The latter was deliberately theatrical and consisted folk-
tune
 flavours. This one is marvelously smooth and meadow-fresh, 
conjuring lilting
 images of Prague and Austria, where it has been extensively filmed. 
At the
 same time, it packs in enough complex emotions of its own.
 
 The soundtrack opens with *Main hoon Yuvvraaj*, wherein Salman Khan 
spews
 hard-to-miss sarcasm, introducing himself as the proverbial 'bad 
boy'
 against the etched-in-every-memory Fifth of Beethoven (performed by 
The
 Chennai String Orchestra). He has a point to prove, a notion to 
dispel. And
 he does it, with spirit, beauty and Benny Dayal (of *Pappu can't 
dance
 saala *fame)'s striking vocals, through Gulzar's
 [Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=gulzar
 ] wistful poetry and Rahman's inventive intricacy of* Tu meri dost 
hain*.
 
 [image: Katrina Kaif]The lingering rhythm of *Tu meri dost *is 
swapped for
 the zingy, retro, disco-friendly beats of *Shano Shano*. An 
animated line-up
 of singers, right from Sonu Nigam
 [Imageshttp://search.rediff.com/imgsrch/default.php?MT=sonu%
20nigam
 ], Srinivas to Sunaina, Vivienna Pocha bring the house down in this
 club-meets-lounge ditty.  Its remix by Krishna Chetan, featuring 
Ember, is a
 dry and darker rap-inclusive interpretation of the racy original.
 
 *Tu muskura* is a lyrical delight sending a wave of goose bumps 
across the
 enamoured listener. Gulzar's vivid wizardry pours its heart out 
through
 verse like, '*Sharir see yeh muskurahatein teri. Badan main sunti 
hoon main
 aahatein teri*.' Needless to say it takes Rahman's exquisite touch 
to cast
 these delicate words into the silhouette of his melodies.
 
 Sonu Nigam lends his characteristic velvetiness to the peppy hues 
of *Mastam
 mastam*, again overflowing with Gulzar's graphic thoughts (*Bheje 
mein
 bhochal hain, pairon mein paatal hain*). Effortlessly free-flowing, 
*Mastam*'s
 USP lies in its being entertaining and silvery, at once.
 
 [image: Anil Kapoor]Misty-eyed poignancy breathes effectively 
through the
 melancholic realisation of *Zindagi*. Rendered with excellent 
restraint and
 stirring sentiment by Srinivas, against Rahman's deft play of 
woodwinds and
 breezy strings, this is easily one of *Yuvvraj*'s best compositions.
 
 Piano, cello and other participants of a grand orchestra and 
powerful chorus
 create a vision of escalating drama of sibling bonding under 
Rahman's
 intense guidance and signature *alaap. Dil ka rishta *is his brand 
of
 symphony, generating a state of big-screen showmanship and 
mellifluous
 festivities.
 
 The vigorously classical notes of Manmohini morey, with a 
conspicuous stamp
 of Rahman's whiz-kid personality, are grippingly and flawlessly 
translated
 by Vijay Prakash.
 
 Ultimately, *Yuvvraaj *is a triumphant score from the maestro. For 
all its
 meticulous arrangement and old-world grandeur, it's essentially 
deep-rooted
 in timeless melody, which seldom disappoints.
 
 On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Sai 

[arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-21 Thread Chord
Did anyone read the comments that followed the review?  I can't 
believe the ignorance, stupidity, and narrow mindedness of some people 
out there


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sai Theodore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 http://www.rediff.com/movies/2008/oct/21yuv.htm





[arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-21 Thread Jahanzeb Farooq
man you have to accept it. although it is growing on us and we have 
started liking more compared to the first time, but the fact remains 
that it is not something liked by the masses. only one song Tu meri 
dost would be liked by the masses but not the rest. even recent ARR 
albums had many songs loved by masses (and critics) e.g., Tere bina, 
Mayya mayya, Barso re (Guru), Pappu, Aditi, Kahin to (JTYJN) etc etc. 
Furthermore the fact remains that Yuvvraaj does not have even a single 
song which can be called just mibdblowing or plain awesome as per the 
ARR standards etc. comparing to Taal it still remains a HUGE 
disappointment, if not for us (ARR fans) certainly it is for masses. 
the weakest songs of Dil se, Taal or Bombay are still better than 
strongest song/s of Yuvvraaj. 

lets analyze it. Mastam mastam is good, it grows, melody is Rahmanish, 
Sonu is perfect, but again it is not something instantly loved by 
masses. Zindagi is again good but nothing exceptional. it heavily 
relies on vocals, too little music, no traditional ARR interludes etc. 
Man mohini is very good but alas too short, which is completely un-
understandable, why did not ARR put a few more minutes to it??? 
strange. Dil ka risha is very good again, orchestra is great. it would 
be loved more than Zindagi, Mastam, Man mohini by masses. however it 
is a very situational song, not something you will find people humming 
or playing on streets etc. Shano shano is one of the weakest songs of 
ARR ever, people will not find anything special in it. it is not very 
different than dozens of Pritam and others' songs releasing every day.  
even Pappu (JTYJN) was far far far far far far better. so at the end 
the only song remains is Tu muskura which will be liked by the masses 
but again there is nothing very special in it. it is likable but not 
something blockbuster etc. it is in the league of recent Tu bin bataye 
(RDB) and Milo wahan wahan (Ada) though the two were far far better. 
just think of some of ARR's biggest hits and ask yourself honestly can 
we compare any of Yuvvraaj's songs with Satrangi, Dil se, Chaiyyan 
chaiyyan (Dil se) Taal se taal, ishq bina, ramta jogi (Taal), Kehna hi 
kya, Hamma hamma, Tu hi re (Bombay) and those from Rangeela, Saathiya, 
Lagaan, Roja, Sapnay etc etc or even recent lesser hits rang de 
basanti (RDB), khwaja mere khwaja, azeem-o-shaan (JA) etc and those 
from Guru etc. and you will get the answer.

hence i am certainly not surprised by the reactions of masses. ARR 
here really disappointed, because of Ghai-ARR combo people were 
expecting something as fantastic as Taal, but there is no comparison 
between Taal and Yuvvraaj. at least if you ask me if i give 10/10 to 
Taal i will give only 4/10 to Yuvvraaj. ARR should have experimented 
in some other low profile album but certainly not in Yuvvraaj. also a 
film solely based on music certainly required some instantly classic 
music, like Taal. 

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did anyone read the comments that followed the review?  I can't 
 believe the ignorance, stupidity, and narrow mindedness of some 
people 
 out there
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sai Theodore saitheodore@ 
 wrote:
 
  http://www.rediff.com/movies/2008/oct/21yuv.htm
 






Re: [arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-21 Thread Farzad khaleel
Jahanzeb, I really understand your feelings ! Even everyone has expected
more than 100% above than this end product I know you are a die hard fan
of Rahman, but still what must we expect ?

Rahman cant put a Chhaiyya Chaiyya or Ghagan Ghagan in Yuvraaj. Songs are
strongly based on Script and related to Western musical raagas [ Though I
dont know much about it ]

*Heard melodies are sweet, but those unheard are sweeter.

*Can you just hum a tone Rahman has to compose in coming years ? Please dont
take this an offensive mail. I am just curious... I just try to do so, but
somehow or other, it will resemble to any other songs of Rahman or the
other.

No body is perfect. Rahman is also a human being. Errors can occur. But in
rare case Rahman went wrong. So just relax, hear good music... If you really
didnt like this, wait for another Rahman release or switch to any other
Bollywood albums :) Movie Fashion has some really good music rendered by
Salim Sulaiman.

Anyhow, I strictly think that when it comes to picturization of all these
longs, you would love more :)

Have a great day ahead Dude :)




On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Jahanzeb Farooq
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

   man you have to accept it. although it is growing on us and we have
 started liking more compared to the first time, but the fact remains
 that it is not something liked by the masses. only one song Tu meri
 dost would be liked by the masses but not the rest. even recent ARR
 albums had many songs loved by masses (and critics) e.g., Tere bina,
 Mayya mayya, Barso re (Guru), Pappu, Aditi, Kahin to (JTYJN) etc etc.
 Furthermore the fact remains that Yuvvraaj does not have even a single
 song which can be called just mibdblowing or plain awesome as per the
 ARR standards etc. comparing to Taal it still remains a HUGE
 disappointment, if not for us (ARR fans) certainly it is for masses.
 the weakest songs of Dil se, Taal or Bombay are still better than
 strongest song/s of Yuvvraaj.

 lets analyze it. Mastam mastam is good, it grows, melody is Rahmanish,
 Sonu is perfect, but again it is not something instantly loved by
 masses. Zindagi is again good but nothing exceptional. it heavily
 relies on vocals, too little music, no traditional ARR interludes etc.
 Man mohini is very good but alas too short, which is completely un-
 understandable, why did not ARR put a few more minutes to it???
 strange. Dil ka risha is very good again, orchestra is great. it would
 be loved more than Zindagi, Mastam, Man mohini by masses. however it
 is a very situational song, not something you will find people humming
 or playing on streets etc. Shano shano is one of the weakest songs of
 ARR ever, people will not find anything special in it. it is not very
 different than dozens of Pritam and others' songs releasing every day.
 even Pappu (JTYJN) was far far far far far far better. so at the end
 the only song remains is Tu muskura which will be liked by the masses
 but again there is nothing very special in it. it is likable but not
 something blockbuster etc. it is in the league of recent Tu bin bataye
 (RDB) and Milo wahan wahan (Ada) though the two were far far better.
 just think of some of ARR's biggest hits and ask yourself honestly can
 we compare any of Yuvvraaj's songs with Satrangi, Dil se, Chaiyyan
 chaiyyan (Dil se) Taal se taal, ishq bina, ramta jogi (Taal), Kehna hi
 kya, Hamma hamma, Tu hi re (Bombay) and those from Rangeela, Saathiya,
 Lagaan, Roja, Sapnay etc etc or even recent lesser hits rang de
 basanti (RDB), khwaja mere khwaja, azeem-o-shaan (JA) etc and those
 from Guru etc. and you will get the answer.

 hence i am certainly not surprised by the reactions of masses. ARR
 here really disappointed, because of Ghai-ARR combo people were
 expecting something as fantastic as Taal, but there is no comparison
 between Taal and Yuvvraaj. at least if you ask me if i give 10/10 to
 Taal i will give only 4/10 to Yuvvraaj. ARR should have experimented
 in some other low profile album but certainly not in Yuvvraaj. also a
 film solely based on music certainly required some instantly classic
 music, like Taal.

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Did anyone read the comments that followed the review? I can't
  believe the ignorance, stupidity, and narrow mindedness of some
 people
  out there
 
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Sai Theodore saitheodore@
  wrote:
  
   http://www.rediff.com/movies/2008/oct/21yuv.htm
  
 

  




-- 
Farzad Khaleel
Webmaster
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[arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-21 Thread Chord
I disagree with most of your post and whether the masses accept this 
or not has not yet been determined.  I'm glad it's getting good 
reviews overall.  I also think it's unfair to compare albums from 
different times and films.  

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Jahanzeb Farooq 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 man you have to accept it. although it is growing on us and we have 
 started liking more compared to the first time, but the fact 
remains 
 that it is not something liked by the masses. only one song Tu meri 
 dost would be liked by the masses but not the rest. even recent ARR 
 albums had many songs loved by masses (and critics) e.g., Tere 
bina, 
 Mayya mayya, Barso re (Guru), Pappu, Aditi, Kahin to (JTYJN) etc 
etc. 
 Furthermore the fact remains that Yuvvraaj does not have even a 
single 
 song which can be called just mibdblowing or plain awesome as per 
the 
 ARR standards etc. comparing to Taal it still remains a HUGE 
 disappointment, if not for us (ARR fans) certainly it is for 
masses. 
 the weakest songs of Dil se, Taal or Bombay are still better than 
 strongest song/s of Yuvvraaj. 
 
 lets analyze it. Mastam mastam is good, it grows, melody is 
Rahmanish, 
 Sonu is perfect, but again it is not something instantly loved by 
 masses. Zindagi is again good but nothing exceptional. it heavily 
 relies on vocals, too little music, no traditional ARR interludes 
etc. 
 Man mohini is very good but alas too short, which is completely un-
 understandable, why did not ARR put a few more minutes to it??? 
 strange. Dil ka risha is very good again, orchestra is great. it 
would 
 be loved more than Zindagi, Mastam, Man mohini by masses. however 
it 
 is a very situational song, not something you will find people 
humming 
 or playing on streets etc. Shano shano is one of the weakest songs 
of 
 ARR ever, people will not find anything special in it. it is not 
very 
 different than dozens of Pritam and others' songs releasing every 
day.  
 even Pappu (JTYJN) was far far far far far far better. so at the 
end 
 the only song remains is Tu muskura which will be liked by the 
masses 
 but again there is nothing very special in it. it is likable but 
not 
 something blockbuster etc. it is in the league of recent Tu bin 
bataye 
 (RDB) and Milo wahan wahan (Ada) though the two were far far 
better. 
 just think of some of ARR's biggest hits and ask yourself honestly 
can 
 we compare any of Yuvvraaj's songs with Satrangi, Dil se, Chaiyyan 
 chaiyyan (Dil se) Taal se taal, ishq bina, ramta jogi (Taal), Kehna 
hi 
 kya, Hamma hamma, Tu hi re (Bombay) and those from Rangeela, 
Saathiya, 
 Lagaan, Roja, Sapnay etc etc or even recent lesser hits rang de 
 basanti (RDB), khwaja mere khwaja, azeem-o-shaan (JA) etc and those 
 from Guru etc. and you will get the answer.
 
 hence i am certainly not surprised by the reactions of masses. ARR 
 here really disappointed, because of Ghai-ARR combo people were 
 expecting something as fantastic as Taal, but there is no 
comparison 
 between Taal and Yuvvraaj. at least if you ask me if i give 10/10 
to 
 Taal i will give only 4/10 to Yuvvraaj. ARR should have 
experimented 
 in some other low profile album but certainly not in Yuvvraaj. also 
a 
 film solely based on music certainly required some instantly 
classic 
 music, like Taal. 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chord purevibz@ wrote:
 
  Did anyone read the comments that followed the review?  I can't 
  believe the ignorance, stupidity, and narrow mindedness of some 
 people 
  out there
  
  
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sai Theodore 
saitheodore@ 
  wrote:
  
   http://www.rediff.com/movies/2008/oct/21yuv.htm
  
 





[arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-21 Thread arunsoft2k
Jahanzeb,

The true fact is you are disapponinted with the music but its only 
you..but there is something called difference of opininion!!!

a lot of people both here and orkut ARRahman communitiy..liked the 
music. well you can always compare with Taal, Dilse, Rangeela. but 
really you should spend some time reading the reviews came out when 
those were out. I'm sure there will be another Janhanzeb trying to 
make people understand how Arr disapointed yet again. but outof 
nowhere it becomes a classic after a year for some of those.

I have nothing against your taste...but Here is the most imp point 
you migt havs missed!!
1.ARR is the highly paid music director...paid big bugs!!!
2.Big deal producers still trying to get ARR as their film music 
director. They wait more time than even a ARR-Fan waiting for ARR's 
release.
Do you think the producers like ARRs divine feelings??..or they like 
his recording theater,or place where he lives or they liked him 
because he composed Roja, Dil se, Rangeela(hahaa). na na 
na..this aint joke!! they go to him because of the MASS, CURRENT 
MARKET not the 1996 popularity..and these cant be given only by 
Fans but a lot lot more people need to like the music. 

but here is the catch with ARR - The  MASS you are talking about is 
the FANS. If ARR fans like it then it already reached the mass. be 
assured about it.If you dont like it guess what? I pity you. You are 
one of those small..tiny winy group who doesnt likes this..
sorry!! no Offense...you asked for it bro.!!

dont glue your eyes and ears to your music system with Yuvvraaj 
playing..just relax yourslef.focus on your normal day to day life 
and have this song played in yoru car,living room when you have 
dinner..rom nowhere it hits you like a storm...!!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Jahanzeb Farooq 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 man you have to accept it. although it is growing on us and we 
have 
 started liking more compared to the first time, but the fact 
remains 
 that it is not something liked by the masses. only one song Tu 
meri 
 dost would be liked by the masses but not the rest. even recent 
ARR 
 albums had many songs loved by masses (and critics) e.g., Tere 
bina, 
 Mayya mayya, Barso re (Guru), Pappu, Aditi, Kahin to (JTYJN) etc 
etc. 
 Furthermore the fact remains that Yuvvraaj does not have even a 
single 
 song which can be called just mibdblowing or plain awesome as per 
the 
 ARR standards etc. comparing to Taal it still remains a HUGE 
 disappointment, if not for us (ARR fans) certainly it is for 
masses. 
 the weakest songs of Dil se, Taal or Bombay are still better than 
 strongest song/s of Yuvvraaj. 
 
 lets analyze it. Mastam mastam is good, it grows, melody is 
Rahmanish, 
 Sonu is perfect, but again it is not something instantly loved by 
 masses. Zindagi is again good but nothing exceptional. it heavily 
 relies on vocals, too little music, no traditional ARR interludes 
etc. 
 Man mohini is very good but alas too short, which is completely un-
 understandable, why did not ARR put a few more minutes to it??? 
 strange. Dil ka risha is very good again, orchestra is great. it 
would 
 be loved more than Zindagi, Mastam, Man mohini by masses. however 
it 
 is a very situational song, not something you will find people 
humming 
 or playing on streets etc. Shano shano is one of the weakest songs 
of 
 ARR ever, people will not find anything special in it. it is not 
very 
 different than dozens of Pritam and others' songs releasing every 
day.  
 even Pappu (JTYJN) was far far far far far far better. so at the 
end 
 the only song remains is Tu muskura which will be liked by the 
masses 
 but again there is nothing very special in it. it is likable but 
not 
 something blockbuster etc. it is in the league of recent Tu bin 
bataye 
 (RDB) and Milo wahan wahan (Ada) though the two were far far 
better. 
 just think of some of ARR's biggest hits and ask yourself honestly 
can 
 we compare any of Yuvvraaj's songs with Satrangi, Dil se, Chaiyyan 
 chaiyyan (Dil se) Taal se taal, ishq bina, ramta jogi (Taal), 
Kehna hi 
 kya, Hamma hamma, Tu hi re (Bombay) and those from Rangeela, 
Saathiya, 
 Lagaan, Roja, Sapnay etc etc or even recent lesser hits rang de 
 basanti (RDB), khwaja mere khwaja, azeem-o-shaan (JA) etc and 
those 
 from Guru etc. and you will get the answer.
 
 hence i am certainly not surprised by the reactions of masses. ARR 
 here really disappointed, because of Ghai-ARR combo people were 
 expecting something as fantastic as Taal, but there is no 
comparison 
 between Taal and Yuvvraaj. at least if you ask me if i give 10/10 
to 
 Taal i will give only 4/10 to Yuvvraaj. ARR should have 
experimented 
 in some other low profile album but certainly not in Yuvvraaj. 
also a 
 film solely based on music certainly required some instantly 
classic 
 music, like Taal. 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chord purevibz@ wrote:
 
  Did anyone read the comments that 

Re: [arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-21 Thread V S Rawat
On 10/21/2008 10:10 PM India Time, _Jahanzeb Farooq_ wrote:

 man you have to accept it.

Please, let me decide what I am going to accept. You can't dictate like 
this, buddy.

 although it is growing on us and we have 
 started liking more compared to the first time, but the fact remains 
 that it is not something liked by the masses. only one song Tu meri 
 dost would be liked by the masses but not the rest.

No way. Shano and Mastam are going to be on every youth's tongue, me think.

 even recent ARR 
 albums had many songs loved by masses (and critics) e.g., Tere bina, 
 Mayya mayya, Barso re (Guru), Pappu, Aditi, Kahin to (JTYJN) etc etc. 

Agreed. So?

 Furthermore the fact remains that Yuvvraaj does not have even a single 
 song which can be called just mibdblowing or plain awesome as per the 
 ARR standards etc.

Hmm. I thought about it and I find that I have to agree with you.

So, I also concede that even though Yuvraj is an album for the masses 
and it has good softer songs also (manmohini, zindagi), still, I have to 
agree that there is no mindblowing song AS PER ARR STANDARDS.

I think that is the area where the freedom ARR gets makes the whole 
difference. Mani gives ARR complete freedom, so ARR's every Mani album 
has one or more mindblowing songs. Deepa mehta gives ARR complete 
freedom, so ARR's every Deepa album has one or more mindblowing songs.

But, even though Ghai's inputs have done wonders in Taal and Yuvraj, 
those have restricted ARR from giving a mindblowing song in Yuvraj.

But, I would not complain. ARR is operating in a commercial world, and 
Yuvraj is having all the potential of becoming the biggest commercial 
hit of ARR's career. That would help him. And it would help us fans also 
when we get ridiculed by ARR's detractors who never fail to highlight 
when Pritam or Himesh's songs top the chart.

And, me think, that is what Ghai wanted - compromise on mindblowing song 
and give an outright commercial hit. And ARR/Ghai have succeeded like 
anything in this album.

 comparing to Taal it still remains a HUGE 
 disappointment, if not for us (ARR fans) certainly it is for masses. 

Why are you so inclined on keeping us fans in a separate category apart 
from masses? Does it satisfy your ego that you are on a higher ivory 
tower as a fan compared to lowly, meanly, measly masses. It is not so. 
We are all humans, made equal by our Creator.

This album is going to bring millions of new fans to ARR's fold. Masses 
will become ARR fans after listening to this album. You think that is 
going to dilute the superiority of ARR fans. I differ.

 the weakest songs of Dil se, Taal or Bombay are still better than 
 strongest song/s of Yuvvraaj. 

That is going to personal taste now.

I have written that I personally found Ishq bina a tad too sweet, 
sacharine sweet, for my liking. I didn't like any remix, and western in 
Taal. My find in that was Ni main samajh gayi, Nahin Samne, jangal mein 
koyal bole, taal se taal mila, etc.

I am not able to compare Taal with Yuvraj. They are different genre of 
songs.

And, for Dil Se and Bombay, or even Guru, or Yuva: well, Mani is Mani, 
yaar. Add, 1947 Earh, Water: Well, Deepa Mehta is Deepa Mehta. Ghai is 
different.

The only album of ARR that I outright disliked is Love Bird.

 
 lets analyze it. Mastam mastam is good, it grows, melody is Rahmanish, 
 Sonu is perfect, but again it is not something instantly loved by 
 masses. 

here, you lost me.

Mastam is the so cathy, yet soothing. It is going to be loved by masses.

 Zindagi is again good but nothing exceptional. it heavily 
 relies on vocals, too little music, no traditional ARR interludes etc. 

So? It is a different song. It has its own style, its own ingredients. 
That is how ARR gave this song, and it is great in its existing form. If 
ARR has changed a single thing in it, that would have become a different 
song.

too little music? Seems you have forgotten Khamosh Raat of Takshak 
that would hold the ARR's all time record for minimal music, me think.

 Man mohini is very good but alas too short, which is completely un-
 understandable, why did not ARR put a few more minutes to it??? 

Now, I would say your think line is irrational. ARR has capability to 
make Manmohini 2 hours song, but Ghai wouldn't put a 2 hours manmohini 
in his film. So why make it 2 hours?

Ghai has taken a liking for pure classical for some time, for a change, 
for some reason. Kishna had Kaahe Ujadi Mori neend (ID), and he wanted a 
short piece having pure classical. That is what he got.

 strange. Dil ka risha is very good again, orchestra is great. it would 
 be loved more than Zindagi, Mastam, Man mohini by masses. however it 
 is a very situational song, not something you will find people humming 
 or playing on streets etc. 

Exactly, and you should have left Mastam out of this logic. Mastam is 
what people can humm out all day.

 Shano shano is one of the weakest songs of 
 ARR ever, people will not 

Re: [arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-21 Thread csrao

 All the while I was thinking we are also part of the masses.
csrao


 


 

-Original Message-
From: Jahanzeb Farooq [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:10 pm
Subject: [arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments










man you have to accept it. although it is growing on us and we have 
started liking more compared to the first time, but the fact remains 
that it is not something liked by the masses. only one song Tu meri 
dost would be liked by the masses but not the rest. even recent ARR 
albums had many songs loved by masses (and critics) e.g., Tere bina, 
Mayya mayya, Barso re (Guru), Pappu, Aditi, Kahin to (JTYJN) etc etc. 
Furthermore the fact remains that Yuvvraaj does not have even a single 
song which can be called just mibdblowing or plain awesome as per the 
ARR standards etc. comparing to Taal it still remains a HUGE 
disappointment, if not for us (ARR fans) certainly it is for masses. 
the weakest songs of Dil se, Taal or Bombay are still better than 
strongest song/s of Yuvvraaj. 

lets analyze it. Mastam mastam is good, it grows, melody is Rahmanish, 
Sonu is perfect, but again it is not something instantly loved by 
masses. Zindagi is again good but nothing exceptional. it heavily 
relies on vocals, too little music, no traditional ARR interludes etc. 
Man mohini is very good but alas too short, which is completely un-
understandable, why did not ARR put a few more minutes to it??? 
strange. Dil ka risha is very good again, orchestra is great. it would 
be loved more than Zindagi, Mastam, Man mohini by masses. however it 
is a very situational song, not something you will find people humming 
or playing on streets etc. Shano shano is one of the weakest songs of 
ARR ever, people will not find anything special in it. it is not very 
different than dozens of Pritam and others' songs releasing every day.  
even Pappu (JTYJN) was far far far far far far better. so at the end 
the only song remains is Tu muskura which will be liked by the masses 
but again there is nothing very special in it. it is likable but not 
something blockbuster etc. it is in the league of recent Tu bin bataye 
(RDB) and Milo wahan wahan (Ada) though the two were far far better. 
just think of some of ARR's biggest hits and ask yourself honestly can 
we compare any of Yuvvraaj's songs with Satrangi, Dil se, Chaiyyan 
chaiyyan (Dil se) Taal se taal, ishq bina, ramta jogi (Taal), Kehna hi 
kya, Hamma hamma, Tu hi re (Bombay) and those from Rangeela, Saathiya, 
Lagaan, Roja, Sapnay etc etc or even recent lesser hits rang de 
basanti (RDB), khwaja mere khwaja, azeem-o-shaan (JA) etc and those 
from Guru etc. and you will get the answer.

hence i am certainly not surprised by the reactions of masses. ARR 
here really disappointed, because of Ghai-ARR combo people were 
expecting something as fantastic as Taal, but there is no comparison 
between Taal and Yuvvraaj. at least if you ask me if i give 10/10 to 
Taal i will give only 4/10 to Yuvvraaj. ARR should have experimented 
in some other low profile album but certainly not in Yuvvraaj. also a 
film solely based on music certainly required some instantly classic 
music, like Taal. 

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did anyone read the comments that followed the review?  I can't 
 believe the ignorance, stupidity, and narrow mindedness of some 
people 
 out there
 
 
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 wrote:
 
  http://www.rediff.com/movies/2008/oct/21yuv.htm
 







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Re: [arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-21 Thread Alfa Andrews
I havent written a lot in this group but that doesnt mean i dont like Rahman. 
To me, he is the BEST THING EVER that happened to Indian Music.

The first time i heard Yuvvraaj music, i felt that was a load of crap. But hey, 
thats what i felt when i heard Kaadhalan first. Same with Dil Se, or Taal. I 
cant remember one of Rahman's that i liked the first time. But Dil Se and Taal 
went on to become my all time favourites. He makes this wierd kind of music 
that grows on you then makes you go crazy over it. Thats one of the things that 
makes him a music director different from others. He doesnt bring out stereo 
type music lik Pritham does or stupid Himesh Reshamayya does. (God, im 
comparing Ferraris to Maruthi 800s. Pritam and Himesh should be proud that at 
least i said their name in the same breath as Rahman's). A good critique finds 
the strong points of a piece that he is critiquing. The main point my brother 
Jehanzeb missed out here is that, the music is different from what bollywood is 
churning out day in day out. It takes time for someone to get used to that 
music. That never means the music is
 bad. Your ears are atuned to mainstream Himesh, Pritam or whatever. They may 
give you short time ecstasy But Rahman brings that mystique to a song which 
makes you want to listen to it again when you havent actually liked it the 
first time. Then you listen it a second time and think Thats not bad after 
all. The third time you go I kinda like it. Then after a few time you go, 
Wow! thats wonderful. I have gone through that phase with every one of his 
compositions. So my point is even if Yuvvraaj ends up being Rahmans weakest 
ever, it is better than the rest out there... (Its my opinion and solely my 
opinion)..

Alfa
 





From: arunsoft2k [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:43:02 AM
Subject: [arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments


Jahanzeb,

The true fact is you are disapponinted with the music but its only 
you..but there is something called difference of opininion!!!

a lot of people both here and orkut ARRahman communitiy.. liked the 
music. well you can always compare with Taal, Dilse, Rangeela. but 
really you should spend some time reading the reviews came out when 
those were out. I'm sure there will be another Janhanzeb trying to 
make people understand how Arr disapointed yet again. but outof 
nowhere it becomes a classic after a year for some of those.

I have nothing against your taste...but Here is the most imp point 
you migt havs missed!!
1.ARR is the highly paid music director...paid big bugs!!!
2.Big deal producers still trying to get ARR as their film music 
director. They wait more time than even a ARR-Fan waiting for ARR's 
release.
Do you think the producers like ARRs divine feelings??.. or they like 
his recording theater,or place where he lives or they liked him 
because he composed Roja, Dil se, Rangeela(hahaa) . na na 
na..this aint joke!! they go to him because of the MASS, CURRENT 
MARKET not the 1996 popularity. .and these cant be given only by 
Fans but a lot lot more people need to like the music. 

but here is the catch with ARR - The  MASS you are talking about is 
the FANS. If ARR fans like it then it already reached the mass. be 
assured about it.If you dont like it guess what? I pity you. You are 
one of those small..tiny winy group who doesnt likes this..
sorry!! no Offense...you asked for it bro.!!

dont glue your eyes and ears to your music system with Yuvvraaj 
playing..just relax yourslef.focus on your normal day to day life 
and have this song played in yoru car,living room when you have 
dinner..rom nowhere it hits you like a storm...!!

--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Jahanzeb Farooq 
jahanzebtippu@ ... wrote:

 man you have to accept it. although it is growing on us and we 
have 
 started liking more compared to the first time, but the fact 
remains 
 that it is not something liked by the masses. only one song Tu 
meri 
 dost would be liked by the masses but not the rest. even recent 
ARR 
 albums had many songs loved by masses (and critics) e.g., Tere 
bina, 
 Mayya mayya, Barso re (Guru), Pappu, Aditi, Kahin to (JTYJN) etc 
etc. 
 Furthermore the fact remains that Yuvvraaj does not have even a 
single 
 song which can be called just mibdblowing or plain awesome as per 
the 
 ARR standards etc. comparing to Taal it still remains a HUGE 
 disappointment, if not for us (ARR fans) certainly it is for 
masses. 
 the weakest songs of Dil se, Taal or Bombay are still better than 
 strongest song/s of Yuvvraaj. 
 
 lets analyze it. Mastam mastam is good, it grows, melody is 
Rahmanish, 
 Sonu is perfect, but again it is not something instantly loved by 
 masses. Zindagi is again good but nothing exceptional. it heavily 
 relies on vocals, too little music, no traditional ARR interludes 
etc. 
 Man mohini is very good but alas

[arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-21 Thread Jahanzeb Farooq
Farzad thanks for understanding my feelings.


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Farzad khaleel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Jahanzeb, I really understand your feelings ! Even everyone has 
expected
 more than 100% above than this end product I know you are a die 
hard fan
 of Rahman, but still what must we expect ?
 
 Rahman cant put a Chhaiyya Chaiyya or Ghagan Ghagan in Yuvraaj. 
Songs are
 strongly based on Script and related to Western musical raagas [ 
Though I
 dont know much about it ]
 
 *Heard melodies are sweet, but those unheard are sweeter.
 
 *Can you just hum a tone Rahman has to compose in coming years ? 
Please dont
 take this an offensive mail. I am just curious... I just try to do 
so, but
 somehow or other, it will resemble to any other songs of Rahman or 
the
 other.
 
 No body is perfect. Rahman is also a human being. Errors can occur. 
But in
 rare case Rahman went wrong. So just relax, hear good music... If 
you really
 didnt like this, wait for another Rahman release or switch to any 
other
 Bollywood albums :) Movie Fashion has some really good music 
rendered by
 Salim Sulaiman.
 
 Anyhow, I strictly think that when it comes to picturization of all 
these
 longs, you would love more :)
 
 Have a great day ahead Dude :)
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Jahanzeb Farooq
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
man you have to accept it. although it is growing on us and we 
have
  started liking more compared to the first time, but the fact 
remains
  that it is not something liked by the masses. only one song Tu 
meri
  dost would be liked by the masses but not the rest. even recent 
ARR
  albums had many songs loved by masses (and critics) e.g., Tere 
bina,
  Mayya mayya, Barso re (Guru), Pappu, Aditi, Kahin to (JTYJN) etc 
etc.
  Furthermore the fact remains that Yuvvraaj does not have even a 
single
  song which can be called just mibdblowing or plain awesome as per 
the
  ARR standards etc. comparing to Taal it still remains a HUGE
  disappointment, if not for us (ARR fans) certainly it is for 
masses.
  the weakest songs of Dil se, Taal or Bombay are still better than
  strongest song/s of Yuvvraaj.
 
  lets analyze it. Mastam mastam is good, it grows, melody is 
Rahmanish,
  Sonu is perfect, but again it is not something instantly loved by
  masses. Zindagi is again good but nothing exceptional. it heavily
  relies on vocals, too little music, no traditional ARR interludes 
etc.
  Man mohini is very good but alas too short, which is completely 
un-
  understandable, why did not ARR put a few more minutes to it???
  strange. Dil ka risha is very good again, orchestra is great. it 
would
  be loved more than Zindagi, Mastam, Man mohini by masses. however 
it
  is a very situational song, not something you will find people 
humming
  or playing on streets etc. Shano shano is one of the weakest songs 
of
  ARR ever, people will not find anything special in it. it is not 
very
  different than dozens of Pritam and others' songs releasing every 
day.
  even Pappu (JTYJN) was far far far far far far better. so at the 
end
  the only song remains is Tu muskura which will be liked by the 
masses
  but again there is nothing very special in it. it is likable but 
not
  something blockbuster etc. it is in the league of recent Tu bin 
bataye
  (RDB) and Milo wahan wahan (Ada) though the two were far far 
better.
  just think of some of ARR's biggest hits and ask yourself honestly 
can
  we compare any of Yuvvraaj's songs with Satrangi, Dil se, Chaiyyan
  chaiyyan (Dil se) Taal se taal, ishq bina, ramta jogi (Taal), 
Kehna hi
  kya, Hamma hamma, Tu hi re (Bombay) and those from Rangeela, 
Saathiya,
  Lagaan, Roja, Sapnay etc etc or even recent lesser hits rang de
  basanti (RDB), khwaja mere khwaja, azeem-o-shaan (JA) etc and 
those
  from Guru etc. and you will get the answer.
 
  hence i am certainly not surprised by the reactions of masses. ARR
  here really disappointed, because of Ghai-ARR combo people were
  expecting something as fantastic as Taal, but there is no 
comparison
  between Taal and Yuvvraaj. at least if you ask me if i give 10/10 
to
  Taal i will give only 4/10 to Yuvvraaj. ARR should have 
experimented
  in some other low profile album but certainly not in Yuvvraaj. 
also a
  film solely based on music certainly required some instantly 
classic
  music, like Taal.
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
  Chord purevibz@ wrote:
  
   Did anyone read the comments that followed the review? I can't
   believe the ignorance, stupidity, and narrow mindedness of some
  people
   out there
  
  
   --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
  Sai Theodore saitheodore@
   wrote:
   
http://www.rediff.com/movies/2008/oct/21yuv.htm
   
  
 
   
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Farzad Khaleel
 Webmaster
 http://rahmaniac.co.nr






[arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-21 Thread Jahanzeb Farooq
 The true fact is you are disapponinted with the music but its only 
 you.

it is not only me. a proof is comments on the blog we are currently 
discussing.

 they go to him because of the MASS, CURRENT 
 MARKET not the 1996 popularity..and these cant be given only by 
 Fans but a lot lot more people need to like the music. 

of course i and everyone here knows this. the point here what we are 
discussing is that with yuvvraaj ARR could not deliver an album which 
is as highly liked by the masses as taal, dil se etc.

 here is the catch with ARR - The  MASS you are talking about is 
 the FANS. If ARR fans like it then it already reached the mass. be 
 assured about it.

i don't agree. the masses are not fans. there are lots of his albums 
which were not liked by masses but of course were liked by his fans. 

 If you dont like it guess what? I pity you. You are 
 one of those small..tiny winy group who doesnt likes this..
 sorry!! no Offense

i never said i am not liking it, i am only saying it is not one of 
ARR's bests. and disappoints as album of a Ghai-ARR combo especially 
after masterpiece Taal.


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, arunsoft2k [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Jahanzeb,
 
 The true fact is you are disapponinted with the music but its only 
 you..but there is something called difference of opininion!!!
 
 a lot of people both here and orkut ARRahman communitiy..liked the 
 music. well you can always compare with Taal, Dilse, Rangeela. but 
 really you should spend some time reading the reviews came out when 
 those were out. I'm sure there will be another Janhanzeb trying to 
 make people understand how Arr disapointed yet again. but outof 
 nowhere it becomes a classic after a year for some of those.
 
 I have nothing against your taste...but Here is the most imp point 
 you migt havs missed!!
 1.ARR is the highly paid music director...paid big bugs!!!
 2.Big deal producers still trying to get ARR as their film music 
 director. They wait more time than even a ARR-Fan waiting for ARR's 
 release.
 Do you think the producers like ARRs divine feelings??..or they like 
 his recording theater,or place where he lives or they liked him 
 because he composed Roja, Dil se, Rangeela(hahaa). na na 
 na..this aint joke!! they go to him because of the MASS, CURRENT 
 MARKET not the 1996 popularity..and these cant be given only by 
 Fans but a lot lot more people need to like the music. 
 
 but here is the catch with ARR - The  MASS you are talking about is 
 the FANS. If ARR fans like it then it already reached the mass. be 
 assured about it.If you dont like it guess what? I pity you. You are 
 one of those small..tiny winy group who doesnt likes this..
 sorry!! no Offense...you asked for it bro.!!
 
 dont glue your eyes and ears to your music system with Yuvvraaj 
 playing..just relax yourslef.focus on your normal day to day life 
 and have this song played in yoru car,living room when you have 
 dinner..rom nowhere it hits you like a storm...!!
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Jahanzeb Farooq 
 jahanzebtippu@ wrote:
 
  man you have to accept it. although it is growing on us and we 
 have 
  started liking more compared to the first time, but the fact 
 remains 
  that it is not something liked by the masses. only one song Tu 
 meri 
  dost would be liked by the masses but not the rest. even recent 
 ARR 
  albums had many songs loved by masses (and critics) e.g., Tere 
 bina, 
  Mayya mayya, Barso re (Guru), Pappu, Aditi, Kahin to (JTYJN) etc 
 etc. 
  Furthermore the fact remains that Yuvvraaj does not have even a 
 single 
  song which can be called just mibdblowing or plain awesome as per 
 the 
  ARR standards etc. comparing to Taal it still remains a HUGE 
  disappointment, if not for us (ARR fans) certainly it is for 
 masses. 
  the weakest songs of Dil se, Taal or Bombay are still better than 
  strongest song/s of Yuvvraaj. 
  
  lets analyze it. Mastam mastam is good, it grows, melody is 
 Rahmanish, 
  Sonu is perfect, but again it is not something instantly loved by 
  masses. Zindagi is again good but nothing exceptional. it heavily 
  relies on vocals, too little music, no traditional ARR interludes 
 etc. 
  Man mohini is very good but alas too short, which is completely 
un-
  understandable, why did not ARR put a few more minutes to it??? 
  strange. Dil ka risha is very good again, orchestra is great. it 
 would 
  be loved more than Zindagi, Mastam, Man mohini by masses. however 
 it 
  is a very situational song, not something you will find people 
 humming 
  or playing on streets etc. Shano shano is one of the weakest songs 
 of 
  ARR ever, people will not find anything special in it. it is not 
 very 
  different than dozens of Pritam and others' songs releasing every 
 day.  
  even Pappu (JTYJN) was far far far far far far better. so at the 
 end 
  the only song remains is Tu muskura which will be liked by the 
 masses 
  but again there is nothing 

[arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-21 Thread Chord
If this is not a Taal, then it's your expectations and others'
expectations to blame.  ARR came up with music that has to go with the
script and is bound by the director's wishes and he gave it his best.
 No other MD could have come up with a better soundtrack for this
particular movie subject than ARR and that's a fact.  Taal was a
different movie demanding a different type of music.  People like you
who expect each and every ARR release to a be repeat of Taal and Dil
Se are going to be perpetually disappointed.  ARR has moved on.  



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Jahanzeb Farooq
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  The true fact is you are disapponinted with the music but its only 
  you.
 
 it is not only me. a proof is comments on the blog we are currently 
 discussing.
 
  they go to him because of the MASS, CURRENT 
  MARKET not the 1996 popularity..and these cant be given only by 
  Fans but a lot lot more people need to like the music. 
 
 of course i and everyone here knows this. the point here what we are 
 discussing is that with yuvvraaj ARR could not deliver an album which 
 is as highly liked by the masses as taal, dil se etc.
 
  here is the catch with ARR - The  MASS you are talking about is 
  the FANS. If ARR fans like it then it already reached the mass. be 
  assured about it.
 
 i don't agree. the masses are not fans. there are lots of his albums 
 which were not liked by masses but of course were liked by his fans. 
 
  If you dont like it guess what? I pity you. You are 
  one of those small..tiny winy group who doesnt likes this..
  sorry!! no Offense
 
 i never said i am not liking it, i am only saying it is not one of 
 ARR's bests. and disappoints as album of a Ghai-ARR combo especially 
 after masterpiece Taal.
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, arunsoft2k arunsoft2k@ 
 wrote:
 
  Jahanzeb,
  
  The true fact is you are disapponinted with the music but its only 
  you..but there is something called difference of opininion!!!
  
  a lot of people both here and orkut ARRahman communitiy..liked the 
  music. well you can always compare with Taal, Dilse, Rangeela. but 
  really you should spend some time reading the reviews came out when 
  those were out. I'm sure there will be another Janhanzeb trying to 
  make people understand how Arr disapointed yet again. but outof 
  nowhere it becomes a classic after a year for some of those.
  
  I have nothing against your taste...but Here is the most imp point 
  you migt havs missed!!
  1.ARR is the highly paid music director...paid big bugs!!!
  2.Big deal producers still trying to get ARR as their film music 
  director. They wait more time than even a ARR-Fan waiting for ARR's 
  release.
  Do you think the producers like ARRs divine feelings??..or they like 
  his recording theater,or place where he lives or they liked him 
  because he composed Roja, Dil se, Rangeela(hahaa). na na 
  na..this aint joke!! they go to him because of the MASS, CURRENT 
  MARKET not the 1996 popularity..and these cant be given only by 
  Fans but a lot lot more people need to like the music. 
  
  but here is the catch with ARR - The  MASS you are talking about is 
  the FANS. If ARR fans like it then it already reached the mass. be 
  assured about it.If you dont like it guess what? I pity you. You are 
  one of those small..tiny winy group who doesnt likes this..
  sorry!! no Offense...you asked for it bro.!!
  
  dont glue your eyes and ears to your music system with Yuvvraaj 
  playing..just relax yourslef.focus on your normal day to day life 
  and have this song played in yoru car,living room when you have 
  dinner..rom nowhere it hits you like a storm...!!
  
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Jahanzeb Farooq 
  jahanzebtippu@ wrote:
  
   man you have to accept it. although it is growing on us and we 
  have 
   started liking more compared to the first time, but the fact 
  remains 
   that it is not something liked by the masses. only one song Tu 
  meri 
   dost would be liked by the masses but not the rest. even recent 
  ARR 
   albums had many songs loved by masses (and critics) e.g., Tere 
  bina, 
   Mayya mayya, Barso re (Guru), Pappu, Aditi, Kahin to (JTYJN) etc 
  etc. 
   Furthermore the fact remains that Yuvvraaj does not have even a 
  single 
   song which can be called just mibdblowing or plain awesome as per 
  the 
   ARR standards etc. comparing to Taal it still remains a HUGE 
   disappointment, if not for us (ARR fans) certainly it is for 
  masses. 
   the weakest songs of Dil se, Taal or Bombay are still better than 
   strongest song/s of Yuvvraaj. 
   
   lets analyze it. Mastam mastam is good, it grows, melody is 
  Rahmanish, 
   Sonu is perfect, but again it is not something instantly loved by 
   masses. Zindagi is again good but nothing exceptional. it heavily 
   relies on vocals, too little music, no traditional ARR interludes 
  etc. 
   Man mohini is very good but alas too short, which is 

[arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-21 Thread Nagaraj

Chord,
Rediff forums are not to be taken seriuosly..They make a north - 
south fight out of everythng..just for fun..no matter wat the news 
is..for fun they wud say 'HR is the best' and create a north south 
debate out of it.. So dont tkae it seriuosly.. 

People write such comments to get noticed as well..

Regards,
S.V.Nagaraj


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did anyone read the comments that followed the review?  I can't 
 believe the ignorance, stupidity, and narrow mindedness of some 
people 
 out there
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sai Theodore saitheodore@ 
 wrote:
 
  http://www.rediff.com/movies/2008/oct/21yuv.htm
 





Re: [arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-21 Thread Arijit Debnath
Fools rely on threads/blogs to comment Rahman's music as dissapointing

Arijit

2008/10/21 Jahanzeb Farooq [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The true fact is you are disapponinted with the music but its only
  you.

 it is not only me. a proof is comments on the blog we are currently
 discussing.

  they go to him because of the MASS, CURRENT
  MARKET not the 1996 popularity..and these cant be given only by
  Fans but a lot lot more people need to like the music.

 of course i and everyone here knows this. the point here what we are
 discussing is that with yuvvraaj ARR could not deliver an album which
 is as highly liked by the masses as taal, dil se etc.

  here is the catch with ARR - The MASS you are talking about is
  the FANS. If ARR fans like it then it already reached the mass. be
  assured about it.

 i don't agree. the masses are not fans. there are lots of his albums
 which were not liked by masses but of course were liked by his fans.

  If you dont like it guess what? I pity you. You are
  one of those small..tiny winy group who doesnt likes this..
  sorry!! no Offense

 i never said i am not liking it, i am only saying it is not one of
 ARR's bests. and disappoints as album of a Ghai-ARR combo especially
 after masterpiece Taal.

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 arunsoft2k [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 
  Jahanzeb,
 
  The true fact is you are disapponinted with the music but its only
  you..but there is something called difference of opininion!!!
 
  a lot of people both here and orkut ARRahman communitiy..liked the
  music. well you can always compare with Taal, Dilse, Rangeela. but
  really you should spend some time reading the reviews came out when
  those were out. I'm sure there will be another Janhanzeb trying to
  make people understand how Arr disapointed yet again. but outof
  nowhere it becomes a classic after a year for some of those.
 
  I have nothing against your taste...but Here is the most imp point
  you migt havs missed!!
  1.ARR is the highly paid music director...paid big bugs!!!
  2.Big deal producers still trying to get ARR as their film music
  director. They wait more time than even a ARR-Fan waiting for ARR's
  release.
  Do you think the producers like ARRs divine feelings??..or they like
  his recording theater,or place where he lives or they liked him
  because he composed Roja, Dil se, Rangeela(hahaa). na na
  na..this aint joke!! they go to him because of the MASS, CURRENT
  MARKET not the 1996 popularity..and these cant be given only by
  Fans but a lot lot more people need to like the music.
 
  but here is the catch with ARR - The MASS you are talking about is
  the FANS. If ARR fans like it then it already reached the mass. be
  assured about it.If you dont like it guess what? I pity you. You are
  one of those small..tiny winy group who doesnt likes this..
  sorry!! no Offense...you asked for it bro.!!
 
  dont glue your eyes and ears to your music system with Yuvvraaj
  playing..just relax yourslef.focus on your normal day to day life
  and have this song played in yoru car,living room when you have
  dinner..rom nowhere it hits you like a storm...!!
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Jahanzeb Farooq
  jahanzebtippu@ wrote:
  
   man you have to accept it. although it is growing on us and we
  have
   started liking more compared to the first time, but the fact
  remains
   that it is not something liked by the masses. only one song Tu
  meri
   dost would be liked by the masses but not the rest. even recent
  ARR
   albums had many songs loved by masses (and critics) e.g., Tere
  bina,
   Mayya mayya, Barso re (Guru), Pappu, Aditi, Kahin to (JTYJN) etc
  etc.
   Furthermore the fact remains that Yuvvraaj does not have even a
  single
   song which can be called just mibdblowing or plain awesome as per
  the
   ARR standards etc. comparing to Taal it still remains a HUGE
   disappointment, if not for us (ARR fans) certainly it is for
  masses.
   the weakest songs of Dil se, Taal or Bombay are still better than
   strongest song/s of Yuvvraaj.
  
   lets analyze it. Mastam mastam is good, it grows, melody is
  Rahmanish,
   Sonu is perfect, but again it is not something instantly loved by
   masses. Zindagi is again good but nothing exceptional. it heavily
   relies on vocals, too little music, no traditional ARR interludes
  etc.
   Man mohini is very good but alas too short, which is completely
 un-
   understandable, why did not ARR put a few more minutes to it???
   strange. Dil ka risha is very good again, orchestra is great. it
  would
   be loved more than Zindagi, Mastam, Man mohini by masses. however
  it
   is a very situational song, not something you will find people
  humming
   or playing on streets etc. Shano shano is one of the weakest songs
  of
   ARR ever, people will not find anything special in it. it is not
  very
   different than dozens of Pritam and 

Re: [arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-21 Thread Pradeepan R
Yuvvraaj - in 1 word - MINDBLOWING.
Peace.

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Did anyone read the comments that followed the review? I can't
 believe the ignorance, stupidity, and narrow mindedness of some people
 out there

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Sai
 Theodore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  http://www.rediff.com/movies/2008/oct/21yuv.htm
 

  




-- 
Cheers,
Pradeepan.

All you need to do is, decide what to do with the time that is given to you
!


Re: [arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-21 Thread Thulasi Ram
well said... i wud be happy if the discussion board in rediff for music
reviews are totally ripped off...

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Arijit Debnath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Fools rely on threads/blogs to comment Rahman's music as
 dissapointing

 Arijit

 2008/10/21 Jahanzeb Farooq [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The true fact is you are disapponinted with the music but its only
  you.

 it is not only me. a proof is comments on the blog we are currently
 discussing.

  they go to him because of the MASS, CURRENT
  MARKET not the 1996 popularity..and these cant be given only by
  Fans but a lot lot more people need to like the music.

 of course i and everyone here knows this. the point here what we are
 discussing is that with yuvvraaj ARR could not deliver an album which
 is as highly liked by the masses as taal, dil se etc.

  here is the catch with ARR - The MASS you are talking about is
  the FANS. If ARR fans like it then it already reached the mass. be
  assured about it.

 i don't agree. the masses are not fans. there are lots of his albums
 which were not liked by masses but of course were liked by his fans.

  If you dont like it guess what? I pity you. You are
  one of those small..tiny winy group who doesnt likes this..
  sorry!! no Offense

 i never said i am not liking it, i am only saying it is not one of
 ARR's bests. and disappoints as album of a Ghai-ARR combo especially
 after masterpiece Taal.

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 arunsoft2k [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 
  Jahanzeb,
 
  The true fact is you are disapponinted with the music but its only
  you..but there is something called difference of opininion!!!
 
  a lot of people both here and orkut ARRahman communitiy..liked the
  music. well you can always compare with Taal, Dilse, Rangeela. but
  really you should spend some time reading the reviews came out when
  those were out. I'm sure there will be another Janhanzeb trying to
  make people understand how Arr disapointed yet again. but outof
  nowhere it becomes a classic after a year for some of those.
 
  I have nothing against your taste...but Here is the most imp point
  you migt havs missed!!
  1.ARR is the highly paid music director...paid big bugs!!!
  2.Big deal producers still trying to get ARR as their film music
  director. They wait more time than even a ARR-Fan waiting for ARR's
  release.
  Do you think the producers like ARRs divine feelings??..or they like
  his recording theater,or place where he lives or they liked him
  because he composed Roja, Dil se, Rangeela(hahaa). na na
  na..this aint joke!! they go to him because of the MASS, CURRENT
  MARKET not the 1996 popularity..and these cant be given only by
  Fans but a lot lot more people need to like the music.
 
  but here is the catch with ARR - The MASS you are talking about is
  the FANS. If ARR fans like it then it already reached the mass. be
  assured about it.If you dont like it guess what? I pity you. You are
  one of those small..tiny winy group who doesnt likes this..
  sorry!! no Offense...you asked for it bro.!!
 
  dont glue your eyes and ears to your music system with Yuvvraaj
  playing..just relax yourslef.focus on your normal day to day life
  and have this song played in yoru car,living room when you have
  dinner..rom nowhere it hits you like a storm...!!
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Jahanzeb Farooq
  jahanzebtippu@ wrote:
  
   man you have to accept it. although it is growing on us and we
  have
   started liking more compared to the first time, but the fact
  remains
   that it is not something liked by the masses. only one song Tu
  meri
   dost would be liked by the masses but not the rest. even recent
  ARR
   albums had many songs loved by masses (and critics) e.g., Tere
  bina,
   Mayya mayya, Barso re (Guru), Pappu, Aditi, Kahin to (JTYJN) etc
  etc.
   Furthermore the fact remains that Yuvvraaj does not have even a
  single
   song which can be called just mibdblowing or plain awesome as per
  the
   ARR standards etc. comparing to Taal it still remains a HUGE
   disappointment, if not for us (ARR fans) certainly it is for
  masses.
   the weakest songs of Dil se, Taal or Bombay are still better than
   strongest song/s of Yuvvraaj.
  
   lets analyze it. Mastam mastam is good, it grows, melody is
  Rahmanish,
   Sonu is perfect, but again it is not something instantly loved by
   masses. Zindagi is again good but nothing exceptional. it heavily
   relies on vocals, too little music, no traditional ARR interludes
  etc.
   Man mohini is very good but alas too short, which is completely
 un-
   understandable, why did not ARR put a few more minutes to it???
   strange. Dil ka risha is very good again, orchestra is great. it
  would
   be loved more than Zindagi, Mastam, Man mohini by masses. however
  it
   is a very situational song, not something you will find people
  humming
   

Re: [arr] Re: Rediff Review - Yuvvraaj - followed by idiotic comments

2008-10-21 Thread Pradeepan R
I generally read Rediff comments just like watching Vijaykanth/T.Rajendar
clips on Youtube.To hell with what some group of people think, Yuvvraaj is
mindblowing, I repeat.

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Nagaraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Chord,
 Rediff forums are not to be taken seriuosly..They make a north -
 south fight out of everythng..just for fun..no matter wat the news
 is..for fun they wud say 'HR is the best' and create a north south
 debate out of it.. So dont tkae it seriuosly..

 People write such comments to get noticed as well..

 Regards,
 S.V.Nagaraj


 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Did anyone read the comments that followed the review? I can't
  believe the ignorance, stupidity, and narrow mindedness of some
 people
  out there
 
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Sai Theodore saitheodore@
  wrote:
  
   http://www.rediff.com/movies/2008/oct/21yuv.htm
  
 

  




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