Re: [arr] it is easy to break harmony
On 7/19/2008 6:53 PM India Time, _Chord_ wrote: >> I am sure that any honest discussion would prove without a doubt that > Omkara was miles behind the level RDB/ Guru. > MILES behind? Too strong a word. No, it appropriately explains what I feel about OMKARA. > Omkara is one of the finest albums in recent times Agreed. OMKARA was better than many others but it is still miles, many miles lower than ARR's level. > and ARR himself mentioned that it was his favorite that year. So, > your claim of Omkara being MILES behind RDB/Guru holds no weight. In Chord, we have another fanatic and if ARR says something about something, That is the final divine dictate to Chord and he would end discussion with ARR words and everybody should agree to what ARR said. I don't agree to whatever everything that ARR says. ARR is polite. I don't imagine ARR would ever say "My albums, my music are the best." Even if such a statement would be 100% true. -- V
Re: [arr] it is easy to break harmony
>But people who (oddly) think so should be allowed to say that. Of course they should. Are YOU giving these ODD people permission? >I am sure that any honest discussion would prove without a doubt that Omkara was miles behind the level RDB/ Guru. Hmmm, what would a DISHONEST discussion sound like? MILES behind? Too strong a word. Omkara is one of the finest albums in recent times and ARR himself mentioned that it was his favorite that year. So, your claim of Omkara being MILES behind RDB/Guru holds no weight. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/19/2008 2:19 PM India Time, _Indmov Buff_ wrote: > > > A big yes to in-depth discussions and criticism too but not when the > > criticisim is in the form of "Omkara deserved the filmfare for Best > > Music more than Rang De and TZP more than Guru". > > > > But people who (oddly) think so should be allowed to say that. > > I am sure that any honest discussion would prove without a doubt that > Omkara was miles behind the level RDB/ Guru. > > -- > V >
Re: [arr] it is easy to break harmony
Its not easy to break Harmony as long as we know what we are and why we are here for. This group is best in its form. There are memebers who have good to best knowledge of music and backed by a good moderator who has maintained NO-SPAM and no illicit content being delivered. Yes, This group is a FAN club of AR RAHMAN, the members' fanatics has range from just listeneres to those who follow ARR's music as Religion. People of this kind are everywhere and shouldnt be dictated. About JUST praising ARR's music NO over the years we have always discussed good music than few miscreants who have tried dictating terms over the members and who believe what they assume is the ulitmate. But they are very few in numbers and the good has always won and supported by the likes. Being one among the old members I have always found it interesting to read the posts and have dedicated a part of my time in a day to read the messages. Few posts have however disappointed me but this group is worth being in. Being an ARR fans and who are huge in numbers its expected ppl would expect you talk about Just ARR. However they havent ever been liars. But think of those others who have voiced for good music discussion. If you happen to be music lover than ARR's there are ofcourse many groups and welcome to be the members there. I and MANY wouldnt agree that this group has posts only that praises ARR's and we have the moderator who has posted any good & Bad being written unless they go to an extent of abusing. Lets understand every person is driven by his emotions, if we are here in this group it means we are here to discuss ARR and his related work. Thanks -R --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/19/2008 2:19 PM India Time, _Indmov Buff_ wrote: > > > A big yes to in-depth discussions and criticism too but not when the > > criticisim is in the form of "Omkara deserved the filmfare for Best > > Music more than Rang De and TZP more than Guru". > > > > But people who (oddly) think so should be allowed to say that. > > I am sure that any honest discussion would prove without a doubt that > Omkara was miles behind the level RDB/ Guru. > > -- > V >
Re: [arr] it is easy to break harmony
On 7/19/2008 2:19 PM India Time, _Indmov Buff_ wrote: > A big yes to in-depth discussions and criticism too but not when the > criticisim is in the form of "Omkara deserved the filmfare for Best > Music more than Rang De and TZP more than Guru". > But people who (oddly) think so should be allowed to say that. I am sure that any honest discussion would prove without a doubt that Omkara was miles behind the level RDB/ Guru. -- V
Re: [arr] it is easy to break harmony
A big yes to in-depth discussions and criticism too but not when the criticisim is in the form of "Omkara deserved the filmfare for Best Music more than Rang De and TZP more than Guru". --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [arr] it is easy to break harmony To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 3:41 AM Don't see anything wrong in expressing passion for ARR and his music, but I agree that this group could use some more in depth discussions of his music and to accept criticism better. I think this group has become progressively younger over time, hence the differences. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > On 7/18/2008 8:26 PM India Time, _Vinayakam Murugan_ wrote: > > > Is it a prerequisite that members here should be ARR fans only. I am > > proud to say that I am a fan of ARR, RD Burman, OP Nayyar, SD Burman, > > Ilayaraja, MS Vishwanathan, MadanMohan, Vishal Bharadwaj, Shankar / > > Ehsaan / Loy , Colonial Cousins, Kailasa, etc etc. > > > > > Same here. > > how this list has lost its character in last 10 years. Now, it has > become mandatory to just praise ARR. > > Information is mostly being exchanged about ARR's trivia, whom he met, > where he went, what he did, what he said about someone, what someone > said about him. > > Apart from that, you are free to praise ARR endlessly. > > There is no real analysis of his music. reviews of music and movies are > picked from the sites in dozens and hundreds and posted here. Any > reviewer having said the slightest negative thing about the music is > painted "he is always like that". > > Members are posting not that many review and nowhere in that depth as > members were posting 10 years ago. members reviews give 8+ or 9+ out of > 10 rating to each and every song. Any member saying a negative thing > about music is terms a Yuvan or Deva or IR's spy who came to destroy > this forum. > > Anybody who has read Animal Farm by George Orwell might identify the > changes in the nature of this list. Thank God that things have not > reached George Orwell's 1984 level. > > Seems more fresh air is needed here or there is no fun in remaining here. > > -- > V >
Re: [arr] it is easy to break harmony
I think this group has been catering to an increasingly diverse audience over the years. And passion for Rahman's music being one of the primary motivations of joining it, it is only natural that naysayers and critics will find the going tough. If we are truly mature about it though, I think critics could choose to ignore the venting of ardent fans, and vice-versa. Moreover, if it be held that the quality and nature of reviews have gone down, the quality of criticism hasn't been all that stellar either. Single-liners saying "the music sucks" don't cut as cricism. But the reverse "mind- blowing, 10/10" is perfectly acceptable I think cos the name of this group veritably is "arrahmanfans". No further explanation required as to why you love it. Critiques are always welcome but be prepared for brickbats and venomous, at times, unreasoned and illogical rebuttals. That is the right of fans isnt't it? :) But I do miss swapnil's reviews. Rahman's creations of the past five years are more than deserving of them aren't they? ;) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/18/2008 8:26 PM India Time, _Vinayakam Murugan_ wrote: > > > Is it a prerequisite that members here should be ARR fans only. I am > > proud to say that I am a fan of ARR, RD Burman, OP Nayyar, SD Burman, > > Ilayaraja, MS Vishwanathan, MadanMohan, Vishal Bharadwaj, Shankar / > > Ehsaan / Loy , Colonial Cousins, Kailasa, etc etc. > > > > > Same here. > > how this list has lost its character in last 10 years. Now, it has > become mandatory to just praise ARR. > > Information is mostly being exchanged about ARR's trivia, whom he met, > where he went, what he did, what he said about someone, what someone > said about him. > > Apart from that, you are free to praise ARR endlessly. > > There is no real analysis of his music. reviews of music and movies are > picked from the sites in dozens and hundreds and posted here. Any > reviewer having said the slightest negative thing about the music is > painted "he is always like that". > > Members are posting not that many review and nowhere in that depth as > members were posting 10 years ago. members reviews give 8+ or 9+ out of > 10 rating to each and every song. Any member saying a negative thing > about music is terms a Yuvan or Deva or IR's spy who came to destroy > this forum. > > Anybody who has read Animal Farm by George Orwell might identify the > changes in the nature of this list. Thank God that things have not > reached George Orwell's 1984 level. > > Seems more fresh air is needed here or there is no fun in remaining here. > > -- > V >
Re: [arr] it is easy to break harmony
Don't see anything wrong in expressing passion for ARR and his music, but I agree that this group could use some more in depth discussions of his music and to accept criticism better. I think this group has become progressively younger over time, hence the differences. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/18/2008 8:26 PM India Time, _Vinayakam Murugan_ wrote: > > > Is it a prerequisite that members here should be ARR fans only. I am > > proud to say that I am a fan of ARR, RD Burman, OP Nayyar, SD Burman, > > Ilayaraja, MS Vishwanathan, MadanMohan, Vishal Bharadwaj, Shankar / > > Ehsaan / Loy , Colonial Cousins, Kailasa, etc etc. > > > > > Same here. > > how this list has lost its character in last 10 years. Now, it has > become mandatory to just praise ARR. > > Information is mostly being exchanged about ARR's trivia, whom he met, > where he went, what he did, what he said about someone, what someone > said about him. > > Apart from that, you are free to praise ARR endlessly. > > There is no real analysis of his music. reviews of music and movies are > picked from the sites in dozens and hundreds and posted here. Any > reviewer having said the slightest negative thing about the music is > painted "he is always like that". > > Members are posting not that many review and nowhere in that depth as > members were posting 10 years ago. members reviews give 8+ or 9+ out of > 10 rating to each and every song. Any member saying a negative thing > about music is terms a Yuvan or Deva or IR's spy who came to destroy > this forum. > > Anybody who has read Animal Farm by George Orwell might identify the > changes in the nature of this list. Thank God that things have not > reached George Orwell's 1984 level. > > Seems more fresh air is needed here or there is no fun in remaining here. > > -- > V >
Re: [arr] it is easy to break harmony
On 7/18/2008 8:26 PM India Time, _Vinayakam Murugan_ wrote: > Is it a prerequisite that members here should be ARR fans only. I am > proud to say that I am a fan of ARR, RD Burman, OP Nayyar, SD Burman, > Ilayaraja, MS Vishwanathan, MadanMohan, Vishal Bharadwaj, Shankar / > Ehsaan / Loy , Colonial Cousins, Kailasa, etc etc. > Same here. how this list has lost its character in last 10 years. Now, it has become mandatory to just praise ARR. Information is mostly being exchanged about ARR's trivia, whom he met, where he went, what he did, what he said about someone, what someone said about him. Apart from that, you are free to praise ARR endlessly. There is no real analysis of his music. reviews of music and movies are picked from the sites in dozens and hundreds and posted here. Any reviewer having said the slightest negative thing about the music is painted "he is always like that". Members are posting not that many review and nowhere in that depth as members were posting 10 years ago. members reviews give 8+ or 9+ out of 10 rating to each and every song. Any member saying a negative thing about music is terms a Yuvan or Deva or IR's spy who came to destroy this forum. Anybody who has read Animal Farm by George Orwell might identify the changes in the nature of this list. Thank God that things have not reached George Orwell's 1984 level. Seems more fresh air is needed here or there is no fun in remaining here. -- V
Re: [arr] it is easy to break harmony
Is it a prerequisite that members here should be ARR fans only. I am proud to say that I am a fan of ARR, RD Burman, OP Nayyar, SD Burman, Ilayaraja, MS Vishwanathan, MadanMohan, Vishal Bharadwaj, Shankar / Ehsaan / Loy , Colonial Cousins, Kailasa, etc etc. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/ Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai chal rahit vyahvar mera Harivanshrai Bacchan - On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 6:48 AM, kishore parayath < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aneesh brother I didnt say that ppl inside are trying to break the > harmony.. I said that some ppl inside are HARRIS,YUVAN and RAJA fans in > disguise...Please read my post once again... > >
Re: [arr] it is easy to break harmony
Aneesh brother I didnt say that ppl inside are trying to break the harmony.. I said that some ppl inside are HARRIS,YUVAN and RAJA fans in disguise...Please read my post once again...
[arr] it is easy to break harmony
it is hard to break a group frm outside,bt it is so simple frm inside.so many guys r trng to break our harmony i thnk so.so pls let us b alert.rahmanji has alwys provd that he is the best.so no tensions on copy qstns.bye