How to check that email has sent by AR Remedy email engine

2009-12-14 Thread ITN (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)
Hi All,

Can anybody tell me how to take the log of successful or failed outgoing mails. 
Actually in my case most of mails are being delivered but few are not going. I 
believe there is some form or log file which can tell that mail has been sent 
out from Remedy or not.

I am using BMC Remedy 7

Thanks  Regards

Amanullah
Software Consultant
IT Application and Enterprise Management
Emirates NBD
Desk: +971 4 2092634
Mobile: +971 50 2182455



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Re: How to check that email has sent by AR Remedy email engine

2009-12-14 Thread Barnhill, Jason (Jason)
Hey Amanullah,

 

Yes there is a form called AR System Email Messages form.  Look for the
field 'Send Message'.  It is on the 'Message Information' tab, you have
to set 'Display Advanced Options' = Yes to see that tab.  It sets that
field to 'Sent' after sending the email, so you can search for 'Send
Message' = Yes or Error to see which ones haven't gone out or
returned some error...

 

I would also advise that you put an index on that field, as the form can
fill up very quickly and searches can be difficult.

 

Hope that helps.

Jason

 



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Subject: How to check that email has sent by AR Remedy email engine

 

Hi All,

 

Can anybody tell me how to take the log of successful or failed outgoing
mails. Actually in my case most of mails are being delivered but few are
not going. I believe there is some form or log file which can tell that
mail has been sent out from Remedy or not.

 

I am using BMC Remedy 7 

 

Thanks  Regards

 

Amanullah

Software Consultant 

IT Application and Enterprise Management

Emirates NBD

Desk: +971 4 2092634

Mobile: +971 50 2182455

 

 

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fast way to find the object in Remedy

2009-12-14 Thread ITN (Atif Akbar)
Hi,

I am using Remedy 7 and need to know the quickest way to find that Objects 
(e.g. active links, Filters) related to Form.

Thanks  Regards
Atif Akbar



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Fetching data through search

2009-12-14 Thread ITN (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)
Hi there,
Even though I changed the option Limit number of items returned  to unlimited 
but still it is fetching up to  10,000 records. Can anybody tell where to 
change this option to remove this check.

Thanks  Regards

Amanullah
Software Consultant
IT Application and Enterprise Management
Emirates NBD
Desk: +971 4 2092634
Mobile: +971 50 2182455



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Re: fast way to find the object in Remedy

2009-12-14 Thread Ramagiri
Hi Atif , 

 

   Login to aradmin with administrator and in that go the  Views tab   in
that  go to  BY FORM  after going to that select  the option   Selected
Forms   and in the available forms :- select the form you want and add in
the selected forms  and click ok .  Now you can find only that form or
objects you want in active links , filters etc . 

 

 

Ravi 

 

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Subject: fast way to find the object in Remedy

 

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Hi,

 

I am using Remedy 7 and need to know the quickest way to find that Objects
(e.g. active links, Filters) related to Form. 

 

Thanks  Regards

Atif Akbar

 

 

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Re: Fetching data through search

2009-12-14 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

There is one server setting for this, and one client setting. Both must be
set to 0/unlimited.

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 Hi there,
 Even though I changed the option Limit number of items returned  to
 unlimited but still it is fetching up to  10,000 records. Can anybody tell
 where to change this option to remove this check.

 Thanks  Regards

 Amanullah
 Software Consultant
 IT Application and Enterprise Management
 Emirates NBD
 Desk: +971 4 2092634
 Mobile: +971 50 2182455



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AW: Fetching data through search

2009-12-14 Thread Jan Harenburg
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Hi,
you may check:

- the client setting
- the server information setting:
-- Max entries Returned by GetList
-- ServerTable Field Chunk Size
- per Form -- in the view definition(tab Advanced Results List, chunk size)
- per Form --limitation on table fields (chunk size, tab Advanced display, , chunk size)


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Hi there,
Even though I changed the option “Limit number of items returned ” to unlimited but still it is fetching up to 10,000 records. Can anybody tell where to change this option to remove this check.

Thanks  Regards

Amanullah
Software Consultant

IT Application and Enterprise Management
Emirates NBD
Desk: 971 4 2092634
Mobile: 971 50 2182455




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Re: How to check that email has sent by AR Remedy email engine

2009-12-14 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
You can also see the error messages in the form AR System Email Error Logs.

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Barnhill, Jason (Jason)
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:02 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: How to check that email has sent by AR Remedy email engine

**
Hey Amanullah,

Yes there is a form called AR System Email Messages form.  Look for the field 
'Send Message'.  It is on the 'Message Information' tab, you have to set 
'Display Advanced Options' = Yes to see that tab.  It sets that field to 
'Sent' after sending the email, so you can search for 'Send Message' = Yes or 
Error to see which ones haven't gone out or returned some error...

I would also advise that you put an index on that field, as the form can fill 
up very quickly and searches can be difficult.

Hope that helps.
Jason


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Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:42 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: How to check that email has sent by AR Remedy email engine

Hi All,

Can anybody tell me how to take the log of successful or failed outgoing mails. 
Actually in my case most of mails are being delivered but few are not going. I 
believe there is some form or log file which can tell that mail has been sent 
out from Remedy or not.

I am using BMC Remedy 7

Thanks  Regards

Amanullah
Software Consultant
IT Application and Enterprise Management
Emirates NBD
Desk: +971 4 2092634
Mobile: +971 50 2182455



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Re: How to check that email has sent by AR Remedy email engine

2009-12-14 Thread Chowdhury, Tauf
Amanullah,

Building on what Jason stated, I've noticed sometimes that even if 'Send
Message' = Yes, the message has not gone out. For me, I also confirm
that the 'Date Sent' field has a value. If it does, I usually can
confirm that the message has been sent. If 'Date Sent' is NULL, it may
mean the message is queued up to send but hasn't gone out yet. 

 

Tauf Chowdhury | Forest Laboratories, Inc.

Analyst, Service Management

Mobile:646.483.2779

 

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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: How to check that email has sent by AR Remedy email engine

 

** 

Hey Amanullah,

 

Yes there is a form called AR System Email Messages form.  Look for the
field 'Send Message'.  It is on the 'Message Information' tab, you have
to set 'Display Advanced Options' = Yes to see that tab.  It sets that
field to 'Sent' after sending the email, so you can search for 'Send
Message' = Yes or Error to see which ones haven't gone out or
returned some error...

 

I would also advise that you put an index on that field, as the form can
fill up very quickly and searches can be difficult.

 

Hope that helps.

Jason

 



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Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:42 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: How to check that email has sent by AR Remedy email engine

 

Hi All,

 

Can anybody tell me how to take the log of successful or failed outgoing
mails. Actually in my case most of mails are being delivered but few are
not going. I believe there is some form or log file which can tell that
mail has been sent out from Remedy or not.

 

I am using BMC Remedy 7 

 

Thanks  Regards

 

Amanullah

Software Consultant 

IT Application and Enterprise Management

Emirates NBD

Desk: +971 4 2092634

Mobile: +971 50 2182455

 

 

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Re: Task error - suggestions?

2009-12-14 Thread Chowdhury, Tauf
Richard,

I found the KB article but no def file. Where is it located? 

 

Tauf Chowdhury | Forest Laboratories, Inc.

Analyst, Service Management

Mobile:646.483.2779

 

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of copits.rich...@bwc.state.oh.us
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:39 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Task error - suggestions?

 

Finally got a solution! This problem is logged as defect SW00336037. They say 
that this will be fixed in 7.5.01 patch 002.  There is a hotfix 

def file that you can get that fixes it in the meantime  that will allow the 
ad-hoc tasks to be activated when the status of the incident is created

as “In Progress”.

 

You can also get around it right now by a bit of a different roundabout 
technique. If the task is created while the parent incident is “In Progress” 

you have to take the incident back to a previous status (such as assigned….) , 
save it, and then take it again to “In Progress” and save it. That 

way you’ll be able to modify the tasks status.

 

 

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Ramey, Anne
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 12:09 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Task error - suggestions?

 

I currently have a ticket open for this as well.  I can't re-produce it at will 
so I can't get logs.  This was their suggested solution:

 

Solution

There is a hidden field associated with the TMS:Task form, State

(10003019). This field must be set to Active for the task to allow a status

change. For some reason, the OOB workflow has been found to

intermittently fail in setting this. The exact cause is still under

evaluation. The defect related to this is SW00316007.

In-house testing of a simple active link which pushes the value of Active to

this field for the task in question has succeeded in triggering the other

OOB workflow to advance the status of the task. For example:

One way to accomplish this would be to create a new form with a character field 
and a button. The

character field is populated with the ID of the task that needs to be moved 
from Staged, expl –

TAS13. Pressing the button will trigger an active link to search the 
TMS:Task form for the

matching task record (a Push If action). When found, it will push to the field, 
State, a value of

http://rkm.bmc.com/rkm/viewdoc.jsp?remedy=1do...ype=Publishedterms=searchTermsuser=Self
 Help (1 of 2) [11/30/2009 11:04:20 AM]

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Active. This action should trigger the other out of box workflow to then change 
the Status of the task

to either Pending or Assigned.

NOTE: Be sure to have proper backups when trying custom workflow in

case it is found necessary to restore to original state.

 

Anne Ramey

 

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Chowdhury, Tauf
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:52 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Task error - suggestions?

 

Richard,

What is your Issue #? I had a ticket open for this but they closed it out 
because at the time, I didn’t know how to reproduce. I will re-open but 
possibly they can relate the issues together. 

 

Tauf Chowdhury | Forest Laboratories, Inc.

Analyst, Service Management

Mobile:646.483.2779

 

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of copits.rich...@bwc.state.oh.us
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:44 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Task error - suggestions?

 

OK. Thanks. The task that won’t change is the first  (and only) ad-hoc  task. I 
have a ticket open with BMC so 

we’ll see what they suggest….

 

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Sabyson Fernandes
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:34 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Task error - suggestions?

 

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Hi Richard,

The tasks need to be activated by the parent object i.e. incident/change or any 
predecessor task/task groups in a sequential flow. For incident setting the 
status of In Progress will activate the first task or task group associated 
to the incident. 

There is a known issue when sometimes the task flow is broken and the tasks do 
not get activated. This mainly happens when you have a cancelled task somewhere 
in the middle of a sequence. The way to manually activate the task is to set 
the 'State' field on the task to active. You can do this by workflow to push 
this value into the relevant task from a display only form that you can create. 

BMC support advised that we install ITSM patch 9 to resolve the issue when a 
task does not get activated. We did install patch 9, but there were 2 major 
issues that got introduced as a result of installing the patch. We got a hot 
fix for one of them and the other issue is still open.

Regards,
Saby 

 



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Re: Task error - suggestions?

2009-12-14 Thread Copits . Richard
We obtained  it from the BMC support folks.
 
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Chowdhury, Tauf
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:02 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Task error - suggestions?
 
Richard,
I found the KB article but no def file. Where is it located? 
 
Tauf Chowdhury | Forest Laboratories, Inc.
Analyst, Service Management
Mobile:646.483.2779
 
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of copits.rich...@bwc.state.oh.us
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:39 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Task error - suggestions?
 
Finally got a solution! This problem is logged as defect SW00336037. They say 
that this will be fixed in 7.5.01 patch 002.  There is a hotfix 
def file that you can get that fixes it in the meantime  that will allow the 
ad-hoc tasks to be activated when the status of the incident is created
as “In Progress”.
 
You can also get around it right now by a bit of a different roundabout 
technique. If the task is created while the parent incident is “In Progress” 
you have to take the incident back to a previous status (such as assigned….) , 
save it, and then take it again to “In Progress” and save it. That 
way you’ll be able to modify the tasks status.
 


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How To Track Floating HD licenses

2009-12-14 Thread Sokol, Brian
We have floating ARS and Help Desk licenses. It is easy to track our ARS
license usage. Is there a way to also track our floating Help Desk
license usage? We are on ARS 7.1 and Help Desk 5.6.

Thanks,
Brian Sokol 
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc. 
557 Broadway 
NY, NY 10012 
(212) 343-6494 
http://www.Scholastic.com http://www.scholastic.com/  

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Re: How To Track Floating HD licenses

2009-12-14 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

Licenses in Help Desk 5.6 are not tracked by the system.

You could build some workflow to push information to a tracking form.

For example a filter that runs on GetEntry/Submit/Modify that
creates/updates a record in your tracking form with the following search:
('Submitter' = $USER$ AND 'Modified Date'  $TIMESTAMP$ - 60*60)
  Short Description = $OPERATION$

This filter should be attached to the the HPD:HelpDesk-form and possibly
some other forms as well.

This will give you something similar to the user-log where you have one
record per individual user session. The sample above gives you a one-hour
timeout between sessions.

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 We have floating ARS and Help Desk licenses. It is easy to track our ARS
 license usage. Is there a way to also track our floating Help Desk
 license usage? We are on ARS 7.1 and Help Desk 5.6.

 Thanks,
 Brian Sokol
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 557 Broadway
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Re: How To Track Floating HD licenses

2009-12-14 Thread Kelly Gatewood
Brian,

The ability to monitor ITSM application user licenses is not included with the 
OOTB products until version 7.x.  That being said, what I did to estimate the 
usage was too create a form which collected the users who submitted of modified 
a HPD:HelpDesk request.  I then created a flashboard to show me the count that 
had occurred in the last hour.

The main flaw in this logic is that this only account for the main Help Desk 
form and did not account for any of the other forms which are a part of this 
application.

I hope this helps.

Kelly Gatewood
Senior Solutions Architect
IT Prophets
Cell 615-830-5078
www.itprophets.comhttp://www.itprophets.com

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**

We have floating ARS and Help Desk licenses. It is easy to track our ARS 
license usage. Is there a way to also track our floating Help Desk license 
usage? We are on ARS 7.1 and Help Desk 5.6.

Thanks,
Brian Sokol
Manager, Desktop Services
Scholastic Inc.
557 Broadway
NY, NY 10012
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Re: How To Track Floating HD licenses

2009-12-14 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

If you only have one application on this server, the AR System License
Usage and the Application License Usage is the same thing.

Remember that license are taken on Search as well as on Modify/Submit.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se

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 Brian,

 The ability to monitor ITSM application user licenses is not included with
 the OOTB products until version 7.x.  That being said, what I did to
 estimate the usage was too create a form which collected the users who
 submitted of modified a HPD:HelpDesk request.  I then created a flashboard
 to show me the count that had occurred in the last hour.

 The main flaw in this logic is that this only account for the main Help
 Desk form and did not account for any of the other forms which are a part
 of this application.

 I hope this helps.

 Kelly Gatewood
 Senior Solutions Architect
 IT Prophets
 Cell 615-830-5078
 www.itprophets.comhttp://www.itprophets.com

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 Subject: How To Track Floating HD licenses

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 We have floating ARS and Help Desk licenses. It is easy to track our ARS
 license usage. Is there a way to also track our floating Help Desk license
 usage? We are on ARS 7.1 and Help Desk 5.6.

 Thanks,
 Brian Sokol
 Manager, Desktop Services
 Scholastic Inc.
 557 Broadway
 NY, NY 10012
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Re: How To Track Floating HD licenses

2009-12-14 Thread Sokol, Brian
Misi,

We have other apps as well. Not everyone has a Help Desk license. They
may only have an ARS license. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:19 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: How To Track Floating HD licenses

Hi,

If you only have one application on this server, the AR System License
Usage and the Application License Usage is the same thing.

Remember that license are taken on Search as well as on Modify/Submit.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se

Products from RRR Scandinavia:
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* RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy
logs.
Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at
http://rrr.se.

 Brian,

 The ability to monitor ITSM application user licenses is not included 
 with the OOTB products until version 7.x.  That being said, what I did

 to estimate the usage was too create a form which collected the users 
 who submitted of modified a HPD:HelpDesk request.  I then created a 
 flashboard to show me the count that had occurred in the last hour.

 The main flaw in this logic is that this only account for the main 
 Help Desk form and did not account for any of the other forms which 
 are a part of this application.

 I hope this helps.

 Kelly Gatewood
 Senior Solutions Architect
 IT Prophets
 Cell 615-830-5078
 www.itprophets.comhttp://www.itprophets.com

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 Subject: How To Track Floating HD licenses

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 We have floating ARS and Help Desk licenses. It is easy to track our 
 ARS license usage. Is there a way to also track our floating Help Desk

 license usage? We are on ARS 7.1 and Help Desk 5.6.

 Thanks,
 Brian Sokol
 Manager, Desktop Services
 Scholastic Inc.
 557 Broadway
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Re: How To Track Floating HD licenses

2009-12-14 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi Brian,

In that case you need to take the advice of Kelly Gatewood into account!

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

 Misi,

 We have other apps as well. Not everyone has a Help Desk license. They
 may only have an ARS license.

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
 Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:19 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: How To Track Floating HD licenses

 Hi,

 If you only have one application on this server, the AR System License
 Usage and the Application License Usage is the same thing.

 Remember that license are taken on Search as well as on Modify/Submit.

 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se

 Products from RRR Scandinavia:
 * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
 * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy
 logs.
 Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at
 http://rrr.se.

 Brian,

 The ability to monitor ITSM application user licenses is not included
 with the OOTB products until version 7.x.  That being said, what I did

 to estimate the usage was too create a form which collected the users
 who submitted of modified a HPD:HelpDesk request.  I then created a
 flashboard to show me the count that had occurred in the last hour.

 The main flaw in this logic is that this only account for the main
 Help Desk form and did not account for any of the other forms which
 are a part of this application.

 I hope this helps.

 Kelly Gatewood
 Senior Solutions Architect
 IT Prophets
 Cell 615-830-5078
 www.itprophets.comhttp://www.itprophets.com

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 Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:10 AM
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 Subject: How To Track Floating HD licenses

 **

 We have floating ARS and Help Desk licenses. It is easy to track our
 ARS license usage. Is there a way to also track our floating Help Desk

 license usage? We are on ARS 7.1 and Help Desk 5.6.

 Thanks,
 Brian Sokol
 Manager, Desktop Services
 Scholastic Inc.
 557 Broadway
 NY, NY 10012
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Re: fast way to find the object in Remedy

2009-12-14 Thread Joe D'Souza
Atif,

Since you say 'quickest' technically the AR Admin tool isn't the 'quickest'
way to find objects especially if you have all those OTB apps of ITSM
installed..

The quickest way would be trying a database search..

For e.g. if you want to search for all AL's tied to a particular form:

select name from actlink where schemaid in (select schemaid from arschema
where name = 'your schema name';

You could also use the exist clause instead of in, which I am told has a
performance advantage..

These searches will take no more than a few seconds (1 to 2 or 3 seconds) as
opposed to nearly a minute or more on the Admin tool..

You could run similar searches for other objects like filters, menus, etc..

Joe
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  Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:09 AM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: fast way to find the object in Remedy


  **
  Hi,



  I am using Remedy 7 and need to know the quickest way to find that Objects
(e.g. active links, Filters) related to Form.



  Thanks  Regards

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ARERR 44901

2009-12-14 Thread Martinez, Marcelo A
I've created 2 new product categories for database and application system 
as shown below. I'd like to assign these categories to CI's I've created in 
order to my users to be able to search by the type of CI. But I am getting 
ARERR44901 when I search for a database on BMC.CORE:BMC_Database and try to 
assign these categories to a database.. not sure why. Any ideas?





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Re: fast way to find the object in Remedy

2009-12-14 Thread Lyle Taylor
You could also do it fairly easily in Developer Studio, if you're brave enough 
to use Developer Studio against a 7.1 server (I haven't really had any issues 
so far).  Developer Studio lets you easily filter workflow and forms based on 
various criteria, one of which is the Primary Form for the workflow.  I haven't 
found a way to bring up workflow associated to a form that isn't the primary 
form, though.  That seems to be a drawback of Dev Studio.  But then again, I 
may just have missed that option...

Lyle

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Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 12:17 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: fast way to find the object in Remedy

**
Atif,

Since you say 'quickest' technically the AR Admin tool isn't the 'quickest' way 
to find objects especially if you have all those OTB apps of ITSM installed..

The quickest way would be trying a database search..

For e.g. if you want to search for all AL's tied to a particular form:

select name from actlink where schemaid in (select schemaid from arschema where 
name = 'your schema name';

You could also use the exist clause instead of in, which I am told has a 
performance advantage..

These searches will take no more than a few seconds (1 to 2 or 3 seconds) as 
opposed to nearly a minute or more on the Admin tool..

You could run similar searches for other objects like filters, menus, etc..

Joe
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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: fast way to find the object in Remedy
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I am using Remedy 7 and need to know the quickest way to find that Objects 
(e.g. active links, Filters) related to Form.

Thanks  Regards
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Re: fast way to find the object in Remedy

2009-12-14 Thread Sabyson Fernandes
Another option is if you have a documentation utility like ARInside 
(www.arinside.org). From here you can view all fields and workflow related to 
the form and go down to the field level as well. 

If you still want to stick to the admin tool, as Joe pointed out, it can be 
slow at times. If I need to do this, I restrict the number of objects I am 
viewing by using the View - By form functionality in the admin tool.

Saby





From: Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 2:16:40 PM
Subject: Re: fast way to find the object in Remedy

** 
Atif,
 
Since you say 'quickest' 
technically the AR Admin tool isn't the 'quickest' way to find objects 
especially if you have all those OTB apps of ITSM 
installed..
 
The quickest way would be 
trying a database search..
 
For e.g. if you want to search 
for all AL's tied to a particular form:
 
select name from actlink where 
schemaid in (select schemaid from arschema where name = 'your schema 
name';
 
You could also use the exist 
clause instead of in, which I am told has a performance 
advantage..
 
These searches will take no 
more than a few seconds (1 to 2 or 3 seconds) as opposed to nearly a minute or 
more on the Admin tool..
 
You could run similar searches 
for other objects like filters, menus, etc..
 
Joe
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  discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of ITN 
  (Atif Akbar)
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:09 AM
To:   arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: fast way to find the object in 
  Remedy

** 
  
   
Hi,
 
I am using Remedy 7 and need to know the 
  quickest way to find that Objects (e.g. active links, Filters) 
  related to Form. 
 
Thanks  
  Regards
Atif 
  Akbar
 


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CORRECTION: fast way to find the object in Remedy

2009-12-14 Thread Joe D'Souza
I just noticed that in my post I missed out a bracket but then if you have
already attempted to use that statement you might have already figured that
out..

The statement should have been..

select name from actlink where schemaid in (select schemaid from arschema
where name = 'your schema name');

If you do not get a distinct set of results and its not ordered you could
modify it as

select distinct name from actlink where schemaid in (select schemaid from
arschema where name = 'your schema name') ordered by name;

Cheers

Joe
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of Sabyson Fernandes
  Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:47 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: fast way to find the object in Remedy


  **
  Another option is if you have a documentation utility like ARInside
(www.arinside.org). From here you can view all fields and workflow related
to the form and go down to the field level as well.

  If you still want to stick to the admin tool, as Joe pointed out, it can
be slow at times. If I need to do this, I restrict the number of objects I
am viewing by using the View - By form functionality in the admin tool.

  Saby





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  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 2:16:40 PM
  Subject: Re: fast way to find the object in Remedy

  **
  Atif,

  Since you say 'quickest' technically the AR Admin tool isn't the
'quickest' way to find objects especially if you have all those OTB apps of
ITSM installed..

  The quickest way would be trying a database search..

  For e.g. if you want to search for all AL's tied to a particular form:

  select name from actlink where schemaid in (select schemaid from arschema
where name = 'your schema name';

  You could also use the exist clause instead of in, which I am told has a
performance advantage..

  These searches will take no more than a few seconds (1 to 2 or 3 seconds)
as opposed to nearly a minute or more on the Admin tool..

  You could run similar searches for other objects like filters, menus,
etc..

  Joe
-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:09 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: fast way to find the object in Remedy


**
Hi,



I am using Remedy 7 and need to know the quickest way to find that
Objects (e.g. active links, Filters) related to Form.



Thanks  Regards

Atif Akbar






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Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile devices: how far can it go?

2009-12-14 Thread Rabi Tripathi
Joe,
Droid is Google's operating system that uses a Webkit based browser. iPhone's 
browser is built on Webkit too.

I don't want to get hung up on the specifics. I just want to hear about 
successes and failures from people that have tried to get Midtier to work on 
different mobile devices. Anybody?



--- On Mon, 12/14/09, Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

 From: Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
 Subject: Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile devices: how far can it go?
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 2:35 AM
 Hey Rabi,
 
 I assumed your smartphone (since you claimed you are using
 that) is loaded
 with Windows mobile OS which is a MS product and uses
 Internet Explorer as
 its browser..
 
 I was and still am under the impression that it was
 Microsoft that first
 coined the term smartphones for devices that were PDA's
 with a phone
 function included.. Hence my assumption that you had IE on
 your phone.. It
 has nothing to do on the day of the week I swear - such
 things have an
 effect on only mortal humans haha!!
 
 On a serious note, if you do not have IE, you must be using
 either a mac
 phone (iPhone) or a blackberry?? Or maybe even the latest
 Nuvi Garmin phone
 or one of the Nokia PDA/phones? In that case yes it MAY not
 be IE - About 5
 years ago I did have had a fancy Nokia phone that was not a
 Windows mobile
 phone and did have IE in its OS..
 
 If it is not IE that you are using then there is your small
 problem in the
 first place. The Mid-Tier application was generally tested
 for IE browsers
 on PC's and to the best of my knowledge IE browsers on
 wireless devices as
 well. I am not sure if it is even tested for
 blackberries..
 
 I used the mid tier application on a my older phone that
 had a Windows 6 OS
 and did not have the same problem you said you are
 experiencing which is why
 I suggested downgrading it to a lower version (just in case
 the newer one is
 not compatible)..
 
 Joe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on
 Behalf Of Rabi Tripathi
 Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:58 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile devices: how
 far can it
 go?
 
 
 Joe:
 You said (a lot)--
 Try lower version of IE.
 Try newer phone firmware.
 Consider it a bug on the phone browser.
 Open a ticket with phone company to find out why midtier
 won't work on their
 browser.
 
 It's not IE...but it's a Sunday reply, so I have to thank
 you. :)
 
 --- On Sun, 12/13/09, Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
 wrote:
 
  From: Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
  Subject: Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile
 devices: how far can it go?
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 5:48 PM
  Rabi,
  
  This could well be a problem with the version of IE
 used in
  your smart
  phone.. try backdating (if a lower version is
 available) or
  updating the HTC
  phones firmware if an update is available, so you can
 check
  if a previous
  version or a later released version works better?
  
  Also it looks like a bug with the browser on the
 smart
  phone since all these
  things work on browsers on a PC including non IE
 browsers
  such as safari and
  FireFox with a few limitations that are not really
 that
  significant..
  
  So I may raise a ticket with the vendors of your phone
 too
  and have them try
  out what you are experiencing and compare the
 difference
  from a PC and a
  smart phone in case you have your applications
 deployed on
  the web so they
  could access your pages and experience your problems
 first
  hand..
  
  Joe
  
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  [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on
  Behalf Of Rabi Tripathi
  Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 5:15 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile
 devices: how
  far can it
  go?
  
  
  One more thing with Eris Droid: 
  double clicking on a table row is not registered,
 because
  that is
  intercepted by Droid to do a zoom out. This can
 perhaps be
  changed in Droid
  configuration.
  
  --- On Sun, 12/13/09, Rabi Tripathi ars_l...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
  
   From: Rabi Tripathi ars_l...@yahoo.com
   Subject: Getting Midtier to work on mobile
 devices:
  how far can it go?
   To: arslist@arslist.org
   Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 5:08 PM
   Hi all, I just started testing
   Midtier performance on Smart Phone browsers. It
  appears that
   forms and workflow tend to work on phone
 browsers, but
  have
   limitations. Has anybody played around with
 this?
  Your
   experience?
   
   I am trying a custom console form on HTC Eris
 Droid
  that
   I just got from Verizon. This and many other
 more
  complex
   pages render fine, but when working on the
 forms,
  there are
   some issues. The most annoying for me at this
 point
  are: 
   -Menu selection doesn't work. Menus list items
 ok, but
  I
   can't 

Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile devices: how far can it go?

2009-12-14 Thread Rick Cook
People have been using Remedy on Blackberry and Palm devices for years.
Aeroprise, MobileReach, and a slew of other companies have written apps and
plugins to do just that.  If you are trying to do it without one of those
apps, you could size down a view of a form and view it on any device that
can run a browser.  I would recommend that you make a small front-end form
for that use, so that all of the Active Links associated with a big form
won't load onto the device and eat up its memory.

Rick

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Rabi Tripathi ars_l...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Joe,
 Droid is Google's operating system that uses a Webkit based browser.
 iPhone's browser is built on Webkit too.

 I don't want to get hung up on the specifics. I just want to hear about
 successes and failures from people that have tried to get Midtier to work on
 different mobile devices. Anybody?



 --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

  From: Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
  Subject: Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile devices: how far can it
 go?
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 2:35 AM
  Hey Rabi,
 
  I assumed your smartphone (since you claimed you are using
  that) is loaded
  with Windows mobile OS which is a MS product and uses
  Internet Explorer as
  its browser..
 
  I was and still am under the impression that it was
  Microsoft that first
  coined the term smartphones for devices that were PDA's
  with a phone
  function included.. Hence my assumption that you had IE on
  your phone.. It
  has nothing to do on the day of the week I swear - such
  things have an
  effect on only mortal humans haha!!
 
  On a serious note, if you do not have IE, you must be using
  either a mac
  phone (iPhone) or a blackberry?? Or maybe even the latest
  Nuvi Garmin phone
  or one of the Nokia PDA/phones? In that case yes it MAY not
  be IE - About 5
  years ago I did have had a fancy Nokia phone that was not a
  Windows mobile
  phone and did have IE in its OS..
 
  If it is not IE that you are using then there is your small
  problem in the
  first place. The Mid-Tier application was generally tested
  for IE browsers
  on PC's and to the best of my knowledge IE browsers on
  wireless devices as
  well. I am not sure if it is even tested for
  blackberries..
 
  I used the mid tier application on a my older phone that
  had a Windows 6 OS
  and did not have the same problem you said you are
  experiencing which is why
  I suggested downgrading it to a lower version (just in case
  the newer one is
  not compatible)..
 
  Joe
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
  [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on
  Behalf Of Rabi Tripathi
  Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:58 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile devices: how
  far can it
  go?
 
 
  Joe:
  You said (a lot)--
  Try lower version of IE.
  Try newer phone firmware.
  Consider it a bug on the phone browser.
  Open a ticket with phone company to find out why midtier
  won't work on their
  browser.
 
  It's not IE...but it's a Sunday reply, so I have to thank
  you. :)
 
  --- On Sun, 12/13/09, Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
  wrote:
 
   From: Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
   Subject: Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile
  devices: how far can it go?
   To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
   Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 5:48 PM
   Rabi,
  
   This could well be a problem with the version of IE
  used in
   your smart
   phone.. try backdating (if a lower version is
  available) or
   updating the HTC
   phones firmware if an update is available, so you can
  check
   if a previous
   version or a later released version works better?
  
   Also it looks like a bug with the browser on the
  smart
   phone since all these
   things work on browsers on a PC including non IE
  browsers
   such as safari and
   FireFox with a few limitations that are not really
  that
   significant..
  
   So I may raise a ticket with the vendors of your phone
  too
   and have them try
   out what you are experiencing and compare the
  difference
   from a PC and a
   smart phone in case you have your applications
  deployed on
   the web so they
   could access your pages and experience your problems
  first
   hand..
  
   Joe
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
   [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on
   Behalf Of Rabi Tripathi
   Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 5:15 PM
   To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
   Subject: Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile
  devices: how
   far can it
   go?
  
  
   One more thing with Eris Droid:
   double clicking on a table row is not registered,
  because
   that is
   intercepted by Droid to do a zoom out. This can
  perhaps be
   changed in Droid
   configuration.
  
   --- On Sun, 12/13/09, Rabi Tripathi ars_l...@yahoo.com
   wrote:
  
From: Rabi Tripathi ars_l...@yahoo.com
Subject: Getting 

Reporting from Share:Application_Properties question....

2009-12-14 Thread Copits . Richard
I'd like to get a report out of SHARE:Application_Properties that lists
name, version and patch values but these don't appear to be
selectable items from the reporting choices. Is there a utility that
anyone has run across that can be used to display these or will it
need to be developed by or database guy? Thanks.


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Re: Reporting from Share:Application_Properties question....

2009-12-14 Thread Joe D'Souza
Richard,

Where are you trying to select these from? The results list? Or the
Reporting interface of the user tool?

Either case it should be selectable.. You can report or even export the
whole contents of the Share Properties form if you need to. I do it whenever
I have need to 'fix' problems with the data in that form so that I have a
backup in case something goes wrong...

Joe
  -Original Message-
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of copits.rich...@bwc.state.oh.us
  Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:58 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Reporting from Share:Application_Properties question


  **
  I'd like to get a report out of SHARE:Application_Properties that lists
name, version and patch values but these don't appear to be

  selectable items from the reporting choices. Is there a utility that
anyone has run across that can be used to display these or will it

  need to be developed by or database guy? Thanks.



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Re: Reporting from Share:Application_Properties question....

2009-12-14 Thread Copits . Richard
What I was doing was bringing up SHARE:Application_properties and then
doing a search to display all in the top pane. This has in the
upper pane Property Name, Property Value, Application ID and Instance
ID. In the lower pane it shows All Application Properties
on a tab and in the window Property Name and Property value. In this
window - depending on what's selected - I can get the name
(Incident Management), the version (7.5) and the patch level (001).
 
I tried going to tools/reporting and printing it from there but don't
see any way to print what's in the lower selected tab.  Now, I'm
new at this ...so how can I report everything that I see in the lower
pane?
 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 4:07 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Reporting from Share:Application_Properties question
 
** 
Richard,
 
Where are you trying to select these from? The results list? Or the
Reporting interface of the user tool?
 
Either case it should be selectable.. You can report or even export the
whole contents of the Share Properties form if you need to. I do it
whenever I have need to 'fix' problems with the data in that form so
that I have a backup in case something goes wrong...
 
Joe
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of copits.rich...@bwc.state.oh.us
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:58 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Reporting from Share:Application_Properties
question
** 
I'd like to get a report out of SHARE:Application_Properties
that lists name, version and patch values but these don't appear to be
selectable items from the reporting choices. Is there a utility
that anyone has run across that can be used to display these or will it
need to be developed by or database guy? Thanks.


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Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile devices: how far can it go?

2009-12-14 Thread Tony Worthington
I just tried on my iPhone with mid-tier 7.5p3.  I was able to log in, the 
home page rendered correctly, but I was unable to scroll up or down to see 
the entire contents of the entry point list on the left.  I did not try 
with direct URL's but I bet it works... at least partially. 

Here's a screenshot. 

Nevermind on the screenshot - listserv keeps rejecting.

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From:
Rabi Tripathi ars_l...@yahoo.com
To:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Date:
12/14/2009 02:49 PM
Subject:
Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile devices: how far can it go?
Sent by:
Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) arslist@ARSLIST.ORG



Joe,
Droid is Google's operating system that uses a Webkit based browser. 
iPhone's browser is built on Webkit too.

I don't want to get hung up on the specifics. I just want to hear about 
successes and failures from people that have tried to get Midtier to work 
on different mobile devices. Anybody?



--- On Mon, 12/14/09, Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

 From: Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
 Subject: Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile devices: how far can it 
go?
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 2:35 AM
 Hey Rabi,
 
 I assumed your smartphone (since you claimed you are using
 that) is loaded
 with Windows mobile OS which is a MS product and uses
 Internet Explorer as
 its browser..
 
 I was and still am under the impression that it was
 Microsoft that first
 coined the term smartphones for devices that were PDA's
 with a phone
 function included.. Hence my assumption that you had IE on
 your phone.. It
 has nothing to do on the day of the week I swear - such
 things have an
 effect on only mortal humans haha!!
 
 On a serious note, if you do not have IE, you must be using
 either a mac
 phone (iPhone) or a blackberry?? Or maybe even the latest
 Nuvi Garmin phone
 or one of the Nokia PDA/phones? In that case yes it MAY not
 be IE - About 5
 years ago I did have had a fancy Nokia phone that was not a
 Windows mobile
 phone and did have IE in its OS..
 
 If it is not IE that you are using then there is your small
 problem in the
 first place. The Mid-Tier application was generally tested
 for IE browsers
 on PC's and to the best of my knowledge IE browsers on
 wireless devices as
 well. I am not sure if it is even tested for
 blackberries..
 
 I used the mid tier application on a my older phone that
 had a Windows 6 OS
 and did not have the same problem you said you are
 experiencing which is why
 I suggested downgrading it to a lower version (just in case
 the newer one is
 not compatible)..
 
 Joe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on
 Behalf Of Rabi Tripathi
 Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:58 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile devices: how
 far can it
 go?
 
 
 Joe:
 You said (a lot)--
 Try lower version of IE.
 Try newer phone firmware.
 Consider it a bug on the phone browser.
 Open a ticket with phone company to find out why midtier
 won't work on their
 browser.
 
 It's not IE...but it's a Sunday reply, so I have to thank
 you. :)
 
 --- On Sun, 12/13/09, Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
 wrote:
 
  From: Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
  Subject: Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile
 devices: how far can it go?
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 5:48 PM
  Rabi,
  
  This could well be a problem with the version of IE
 used in
  your smart
  phone.. try backdating (if a lower version is
 available) or
  updating the HTC
  phones firmware if an update is available, so you can
 check
  if a previous
  version or a later released version works better?
  
  Also it looks like a bug with the browser on the
 smart
  phone since all these
  things work on browsers on a PC including non IE
 browsers
  such as safari and
  FireFox with a few limitations that are not really
 that
  significant..
  
  So I may raise a ticket with the vendors of your phone
 too
  and have them try
  out what you are experiencing and compare the
 difference
  from a PC and a
  smart phone in case you have your applications
 deployed on
  the web so they
  could access your pages and experience your problems
 first
  hand..
  
  Joe
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
  [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on
  Behalf Of Rabi Tripathi
  Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 5:15 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile
 devices: how
  far can it
  go?
  
  
  One more thing with Eris Droid: 
  double clicking on a table row is not registered,
 because
  that is
  intercepted by Droid to do a zoom out. This can
 perhaps be
  changed in Droid
  configuration.
  
  --- On Sun, 12/13/09, Rabi Tripathi 

Re: Reporting from Share:Application_Properties question....

2009-12-14 Thread Tony Worthington
There's an app for that on BMCDN...  Steve Wilson wrote it...   
http://communities.bmc.com/communities/docs/DOC-6451 

Application Properties Console_v2.0.zip 

The Application Properties Console provides a user friendly way to access 
application property data stored in the SHARE:Application_Properties 
form. 

You should be able to run a report on the form ... just search/group on 
application ID (guid) 


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From:
copits.rich...@bwc.state.oh.us
To:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Date:
12/14/2009 03:21 PM
Subject:
Re: Reporting from Share:Application_Properties question
Sent by:
Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) arslist@ARSLIST.ORG



** 
What I was doing was bringing up SHARE:Application_properties and then 
doing a search to display all in the top pane. This has in the
?upper pane? Property Name, Property Value, Application ID and Instance 
ID. In the lower pane it shows ?All Application Properties?
on a tab and in the window Property Name and Property value. In this 
window ? depending on what?s selected ? I can get the name
(Incident Management), the version (7.5) and the patch level (001).
 
I tried going to tools/reporting and printing it from there but don?t see 
any way to print what?s in the lower ?selected? tab.  Now, I?m
new at this ?so how can I report everything that I see in the lower pane?
 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 4:07 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Reporting from Share:Application_Properties question
 
** 
Richard,
 
Where are you trying to select these from? The results list? Or the 
Reporting interface of the user tool?
 
Either case it should be selectable.. You can report or even export the 
whole contents of the Share Properties form if you need to. I do it 
whenever I have need to 'fix' problems with the data in that form so that 
I have a backup in case something goes wrong...
 
Joe
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of copits.rich...@bwc.state.oh.us
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:58 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Reporting from Share:Application_Properties question
** 
I?d like to get a report out of SHARE:Application_Properties that lists 
name, version and patch values but these don?t appear to be
selectable items from the reporting choices. Is there a utility that 
anyone has run across that can be used to display these or will it
need to be developed by or database guy? Thanks.


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Re: Reporting from Share:Application_Properties question....

2009-12-14 Thread Joe D'Souza
You need to select the fields you see in the Reporting dialog, and then use
those to create a report.. If you want to call me, write to me offline and
I'll send you my number and I'll guide you..

You would need to be my 'eyes' though on what you see on your screen as I am
not facing a Remedy server right now..

Cheers

Joe
  -Original Message-
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of copits.rich...@bwc.state.oh.us
  Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 4:19 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: Reporting from Share:Application_Properties question


  **
  What I was doing was bringing up SHARE:Application_properties and then
doing a search to display all in the top pane. This has in the

  upper pane Property Name, Property Value, Application ID and Instance
ID. In the lower pane it shows All Application Properties

  on a tab and in the window Property Name and Property value. In this
window - depending on what's selected - I can get the name

  (Incident Management), the version (7.5) and the patch level (001).



  I tried going to tools/reporting and printing it from there but don't see
any way to print what's in the lower selected tab.  Now, I'm

  new at this .so how can I report everything that I see in the lower pane?



  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
  Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 4:07 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: Reporting from Share:Application_Properties question



  **

  Richard,



  Where are you trying to select these from? The results list? Or the
Reporting interface of the user tool?



  Either case it should be selectable.. You can report or even export the
whole contents of the Share Properties form if you need to. I do it whenever
I have need to 'fix' problems with the data in that form so that I have a
backup in case something goes wrong...



  Joe

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of copits.rich...@bwc.state.oh.us
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:58 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Reporting from Share:Application_Properties question

**

I'd like to get a report out of SHARE:Application_Properties that lists
name, version and patch values but these don't appear to be

selectable items from the reporting choices. Is there a utility that
anyone has run across that can be used to display these or will it

need to be developed by or database guy? Thanks.



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Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile devices: how far can it go?

2009-12-14 Thread Rabi Tripathi
I could sure use a lesson in clear communication. I am not asking this question 
right.

I know Rick that there are many vendors that since forever have been selling 
wares to enable mobile devices to access Remedy applications. God bless these 
fine folks and their ingenuity.

I also know that it's unrealistic to expect form/workflow designed for windows 
client or regular browser to fully work on mobile devices, as html and 
javascript support in mobile browsers is limited. Not to mention the difference 
in screen size, speed.

My intention is to come up with simplified forms/workflow for mobile devices to 
have them work without third party products. At least for a small set of 
devices/browsers. Given what I have seen so far for HTC Eris Droid, it won't be 
possible or will be very funky (such as replace menus with buttons that open a 
form with a table listing menu choices), because menus don't work, can't double 
click on a table etc. I'm sure there are more caveats for Droid, and different 
caveats for other devices.

So I am interested in hearing from anyone who has tried to get simplified 
Remedy forms/workflow to work on any Mobile device/browser using nothing but 
the good old midtier. 

What midtier and Device/browser, did you try and how well did it work (or not)? 
I have midtier 7.1 p7 / Tomcat on Sun.

I thought a lot would have a lot to say on this topic. Or are my users and I 
just too wishful to want mobile device support and not to want to pay for and 
maintain third party products?


On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Rick Cook remedyr...@gmail.com wrote:

** People have been using Remedy on Blackberry and Palm devices for years.  
Aeroprise, MobileReach, and a slew of other companies have written apps and 
plugins to do just that.  If you are trying to do it without one of those apps, 
you could size down a view of a form and view it on any device that can run a 
browser.  I would recommend that you make a small front-end form for that use, 
so that all of the Active Links associated with a big form won't load onto the 
device and eat up its memory.

Rick


On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Rabi Tripathi ars_l...@yahoo.com wrote:

Joe,
Droid is Google's operating system that uses a Webkit based browser. 
iPhone's browser is built on Webkit too.

I don't want to get hung up on the specifics. I just want to hear about 
successes and failures from people that have tried to get Midtier to work on 
different mobile devices. Anybody?



--- On Mon, 12/14/09, Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

 From: Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
 Subject: Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile devices: how far can 
it go?
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 2:35 AM
 Hey Rabi,

 I assumed your smartphone (since you claimed you are using
 that) is loaded
 with Windows mobile OS which is a MS product and uses
 Internet Explorer as
 its browser..

 I was and still am under the impression that it was
 Microsoft that first
 coined the term smartphones for devices that were PDA's
 with a phone
 function included.. Hence my assumption that you had IE on
 your phone.. It
 has nothing to do on the day of the week I swear - such
 things have an
 effect on only mortal humans haha!!

 On a serious note, if you do not have IE, you must be using
 either a mac
 phone (iPhone) or a blackberry?? Or maybe even the latest
 Nuvi Garmin phone
 or one of the Nokia PDA/phones? In that case yes it MAY not
 be IE - About 5
 years ago I did have had a fancy Nokia phone that was not a
 Windows mobile
 phone and did have IE in its OS..

 If it is not IE that you are using then there is your small
 problem in the
 first place. The Mid-Tier application was generally tested
 for IE browsers
 on PC's and to the best of my knowledge IE browsers on
 wireless devices as
 well. I am not sure if it is even tested for
 blackberries..

 I used the mid tier application on a my older phone that
 had a Windows 6 OS
 and did not have the same problem you said you are
 experiencing which is why
 I suggested downgrading it to a lower version (just in case
 the newer one is
 not compatible)..

 Joe

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on
 Behalf Of Rabi Tripathi
 Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:58 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile devices: how
 far can it
 go?


 Joe:

Re: Issue in Sending Mail in HTML format

2009-12-14 Thread jham36
The only suggestion I have is to make sure you use the database name
of the field in your template, not the field label.

James

On Dec 11, 12:51 am, Nair, Rajesh IN BOM SISL
nairraj...@siemens.com wrote:
 Dear LIst,
 I am facing a issue in sending mail from remedy system in HTML format..
 I have copied the format in the Template form. Have created a form say XYZ 
 which stores the exact name of the template. This in turn is set to the 
 helpdesk form.
 In the notfiy filter i have copied the template name in the Content field and 
 have selected the fields which are present in the Helpdesk form and in the 
 template.
 OutpuT
 System send the mail in the HTML format as desired but it is not using the 
 Field iD .. say Case id goes NULL
 I have used the variable name in the template in the format #$$Case ID$$#

 Can anyone tell me where i am going worng  or what can be done.

 Regards
 Rajesh

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Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile devices: how far can it go?

2009-12-14 Thread Jason Miller
We have tried for years as the device get more powerful and the MT gets
faster.  To this day we are yet to find a device that can utilize enough
functionality to be usable.

The closest we have come is with the newer generation Blackberries
(Storm/Tour) and the iPhone with both MT 7.1 and 7.5.  We can get
authenticated and load a very basic form display only form.  We have see
similar issues where tables to not work as designed, buttons and Active
Links do not work.  It doesn't take too complex of a form to make a
Blackberry display an error that the page is too large to load.  We are
closer than we have ever been but not quite there yet.

We are supposed to be getting a few demo phones not sure if there is any
kind of NDA so I will not state the device that are claimed to have full
browser functionality including flash.  We'll see how these work when they
materialize.

Jason

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Rabi Tripathi ars_l...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I could sure use a lesson in clear communication. I am not asking this
 question right.

 I know Rick that there are many vendors that since forever have been
 selling wares to enable mobile devices to access Remedy applications. God
 bless these fine folks and their ingenuity.

 I also know that it's unrealistic to expect form/workflow designed for
 windows client or regular browser to fully work on mobile devices, as html
 and javascript support in mobile browsers is limited. Not to mention the
 difference in screen size, speed.

 My intention is to come up with simplified forms/workflow for mobile
 devices to have them work without third party products. At least for a small
 set of devices/browsers. Given what I have seen so far for HTC Eris Droid,
 it won't be possible or will be very funky (such as replace menus with
 buttons that open a form with a table listing menu choices), because menus
 don't work, can't double click on a table etc. I'm sure there are more
 caveats for Droid, and different caveats for other devices.

 So I am interested in hearing from anyone who has tried to get simplified
 Remedy forms/workflow to work on any Mobile device/browser using nothing but
 the good old midtier.

 What midtier and Device/browser, did you try and how well did it work (or
 not)?
 I have midtier 7.1 p7 / Tomcat on Sun.

 I thought a lot would have a lot to say on this topic. Or are my users and
 I just too wishful to want mobile device support and not to want to pay for
 and maintain third party products?


 On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Rick Cook remedyr...@gmail.com wrote:

** People have been using Remedy on Blackberry and Palm devices for
 years.  Aeroprise, MobileReach, and a slew of other companies have written
 apps and plugins to do just that.  If you are trying to do it without one of
 those apps, you could size down a view of a form and view it on any device
 that can run a browser.  I would recommend that you make a small front-end
 form for that use, so that all of the Active Links associated with a big
 form won't load onto the device and eat up its memory.

Rick


On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Rabi Tripathi ars_l...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 Joe,
Droid is Google's operating system that uses a Webkit based
 browser. iPhone's browser is built on Webkit too.

I don't want to get hung up on the specifics. I just want to hear
 about successes and failures from people that have tried to get Midtier to
 work on different mobile devices. Anybody?



--- On Mon, 12/14/09, Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

 From: Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
 Subject: Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile devices: how far
 can it go?
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 2:35 AM
 Hey Rabi,

 I assumed your smartphone (since you claimed you are using
 that) is loaded
 with Windows mobile OS which is a MS product and uses
 Internet Explorer as
 its browser..

 I was and still am under the impression that it was
 Microsoft that first
 coined the term smartphones for devices that were PDA's
 with a phone
 function included.. Hence my assumption that you had IE on
 your phone.. It
 has nothing to do on the day of the week I swear - such
 things have an
 effect on only mortal humans haha!!

 On a serious note, if you do not have IE, you must be using
 either a mac
 phone (iPhone) or a blackberry?? Or maybe even the latest
 Nuvi Garmin phone
 or one of the Nokia PDA/phones? In that case yes it MAY not
 be IE - About 5
 years ago I did have had a fancy Nokia phone that was not a
 Windows mobile
 phone and did have IE in its OS..

 If it is not IE that you are using then there is your small
 problem in the
 first place. The Mid-Tier 

Re: Issue in Sending Mail in HTML format

2009-12-14 Thread Lyle Taylor
In addition, Remedy takes field permissions into account when sending e-mails.  
If the user receiving the e-mail doesn't have permissions to those fields (or 
Remedy can't determine that they do), then it will not include those fields in 
the e-mail.  Remedy will be able to determine if the user has those permissions 
if you send it using their login ID.  If you're sending explicitly to an e-mail 
address, and that e-mail address doesn't correspond to an entry in the People 
form, then only fields will Public permissions will be included in the e-mail.

Lyle

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of jham36
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:24 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Issue in Sending Mail in HTML format

The only suggestion I have is to make sure you use the database name
of the field in your template, not the field label.

James

On Dec 11, 12:51 am, Nair, Rajesh IN BOM SISL
nairraj...@siemens.com wrote:
 Dear LIst,
 I am facing a issue in sending mail from remedy system in HTML format..
 I have copied the format in the Template form. Have created a form say XYZ 
 which stores the exact name of the template. This in turn is set to the 
 helpdesk form.
 In the notfiy filter i have copied the template name in the Content field and 
 have selected the fields which are present in the Helpdesk form and in the 
 template.
 OutpuT
 System send the mail in the HTML format as desired but it is not using the 
 Field iD .. say Case id goes NULL
 I have used the variable name in the template in the format #$$Case ID$$#

 Can anyone tell me where i am going worng  or what can be done.

 Regards
 Rajesh

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Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile devices: how far can it go?

2009-12-14 Thread Rabi Tripathi
Thanks Jason. 

Your'e right about the situation getting better. The only reason I am taking 
this trouble at this point is that the pages look fantastic on my phone...even 
complex forms used in regular browsers.

I can login without any issue. Many of the buttons work. So, I feel that there 
is not a whole lot standing between a simple working form and what I see now. 
That by using a simple form, a limited set of workflow and using some 
workarounds, I can get a small set of mobile devices to work with midtier. 
That's the dream anyway and I may just be overreacting to what reviewers say is 
the excellent ability of HTC Eris to render web pages.

I am also looking at ARSPERL to send html and limited javascript back to the 
browser. Not the most elegant and scalable solution, but will work.

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote:

** We have tried for years as the device get more powerful and the MT gets 
faster.  To this day we are yet to find a device that can utilize enough 
functionality to be usable.

The closest we have come is with the newer generation Blackberries 
(Storm/Tour) and the iPhone with both MT 7.1 and 7.5.  We can get authenticated 
and load a very basic form display only form.  We have see similar issues where 
tables to not work as designed, buttons and Active Links do not work.  It 
doesn't take too complex of a form to make a Blackberry display an error that 
the page is too large to load.  We are closer than we have ever been but not 
quite there yet.

We are supposed to be getting a few demo phones not sure if there is any 
kind of NDA so I will not state the device that are claimed to have full 
browser functionality including flash.  We'll see how these work when they 
materialize.

Jason


On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Rabi Tripathi ars_l...@yahoo.com wrote:

I could sure use a lesson in clear communication. I am not asking this 
question right.

I know Rick that there are many vendors that since forever have been 
selling wares to enable mobile devices to access Remedy applications. God bless 
these fine folks and their ingenuity.

I also know that it's unrealistic to expect form/workflow designed for 
windows client or regular browser to fully work on mobile devices, as html and 
javascript support in mobile browsers is limited. Not to mention the difference 
in screen size, speed.

My intention is to come up with simplified forms/workflow for mobile 
devices to have them work without third party products. At least for a small 
set of devices/browsers. Given what I have seen so far for HTC Eris Droid, it 
won't be possible or will be very funky (such as replace menus with buttons 
that open a form with a table listing menu choices), because menus don't work, 
can't double click on a table etc. I'm sure there are more caveats for Droid, 
and different caveats for other devices.

So I am interested in hearing from anyone who has tried to get 
simplified Remedy forms/workflow to work on any Mobile device/browser using 
nothing but the good old midtier.

What midtier and Device/browser, did you try and how well did it work 
(or not)?
I have midtier 7.1 p7 / Tomcat on Sun.

I thought a lot would have a lot to say on this topic. Or are my users 
and I just too


  

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Re: fast way to find the object in Remedy

2009-12-14 Thread Mohan, Sureshbabu
Lyle,

To bring up workflow associated to a form that isn't the primary form, you 
would use the Working Lists feature introduced in the 7.5 Developer Studio 
(especially the Related List type Working List).

Here is a snippet from the chapter that talks about Working Lists in the 7.5 
Developer Studio guide (found at 
http://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/53/81/95381/95381.pdf).

Working with working lists
Create a working list to keep references to objects that you need to view, 
change, or export to complete an application development or maintenance task. 
You can add and remove objects from working lists as you work with them.
Descriptions of your working lists are stored locally in your BMC Remedy 
Developer Studio workspace. Working lists refer to objects on the AR System 
server, but the server does not record any information about working lists or 
an object's membership in them.
BMC Remedy Developer Studio has the following types of working lists:
_ View-by-form list-Contains one or more AR System forms and all objects 
related to them.
_ Related list-Contains one or more AR System objects and optionally either 
directly related objects or all related objects.
Every time you open a working list, the list is updated with the current 
related objects. For example, if a filter is created that is associated with a 
form in a view-by-form list, the new filter is included the next time that you 
open the list.
NOTE
Although there is no limit on the number of objects in a working list, lists 
with many objects, included related objects, are slower to open than lists with 
fewer objects.
_ To create a view-by-form list
1 In the AR System Navigator, expand serverName, right-click Working Lists, and
choose New View by Form List.
2 In the New View by Form List dialog box, enter the List Name.
3 Click Add.
4 In the Form Selector dialog box, select one or more forms to include in the 
list, and
click OK.
To filter the list of forms, type a pattern in the Name field. To move to a 
form in the
list, type the first characters of the name in the Locate field.
Use the usual Windows methods to select multiple objects. For example, hold
down the CTRL key and click an item to select or deselect it.
5 Click OK to save the list.
_ To create a related list
1 In the server branch in the AR System Navigator, right-click Working Lists and
choose New Related List.
2 In New Related List dialog box, enter the List Name.
3 Click Add.
4 In the Add Items dialog box, select the objects to include in the list.
To filter the list of object, type a pattern in the Name field, select an 
application
from the Application drop-down list, or clear the appropriate Object Category
check boxes. To move to a form in the list, type the first characters of the 
name in
the Locate field.
5 In the Add Items with Related Property drop-down list , choose to add just the
objects selected, the object and directly related objects, the objects and all 
related
objects, or, for applications and packing lists, the object and its contents.
See the information about exporting objects in the Form and Application Objects
Guide for descriptions of the related options.
6 Click OK.
7 In the Related List dialog box, to see which objects will be included in the 
list, select
an object and click Show Related.
8 To remove an object and its related objects, select it in the list and click 
Remove.
To remove all objects from the list, click Remove All.
9 To change which related objects are included in the list with the selected 
object,
select the objects in the list and click and change the value in the Related 
column
or click the buttons.
See the information about exporting objects in the Form and Application Objects
Guide for descriptions of related options.
10 Click OK to save the list.

Thanks
Suresh
BMC Software

Note: Developer Studio is backwards compatible with 7.1 servers.

From: Lyle Taylor [mailto:tayl...@ldschurch.org]
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: fast way to find the object in Remedy

**
You could also do it fairly easily in Developer Studio, if you're brave enough 
to use Developer Studio against a 7.1 server (I haven't really had any issues 
so far).  Developer Studio lets you easily filter workflow and forms based on 
various criteria, one of which is the Primary Form for the workflow.  I haven't 
found a way to bring up workflow associated to a form that isn't the primary 
form, though.  That seems to be a drawback of Dev Studio.  But then again, I 
may just have missed that option...

Lyle

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 12:17 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: fast way to find the object in Remedy

**
Atif,

Since you say 'quickest' technically the AR Admin tool isn't the 'quickest' way 
to find objects especially if you have all those OTB apps of ITSM installed..

The quickest way would be trying a 

Re: fast way to find the object in Remedy

2009-12-14 Thread Lyle Taylor
Thanks for the info, Suresh!  I'll take a look that.

Lyle

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Mohan, Sureshbabu
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 4:58 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: fast way to find the object in Remedy

**
Lyle,

To bring up workflow associated to a form that isn't the primary form, you 
would use the Working Lists feature introduced in the 7.5 Developer Studio 
(especially the Related List type Working List).

Here is a snippet from the chapter that talks about Working Lists in the 7.5 
Developer Studio guide (found at 
http://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/53/81/95381/95381.pdf).


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Re: fast way to find the object in Remedy

2009-12-14 Thread vinitPatil
Hi Atif,

You can use Remedy Developer Plus too. 
The initial setup will took sometime but after that you can easily find out
Active Links, Filters, Fields etc. associated with a form.

HTH

Vinit

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Re: Getting Midtier to work on mobile devices: how far can it go?

2009-12-14 Thread Ian Trimnell

Jason Miller wrote:
** We have tried for years as the device get more powerful and the MT 
gets faster.  To this day we are yet to find a device that can utilize 
enough functionality to be usable.


The closest we have come is with the newer generation Blackberries 
(Storm/Tour) and the iPhone with both MT 7.1 and 7.5.  We can get 
authenticated and load a very basic form display only form.  We have 
see similar issues where tables to not work as designed, buttons and 
Active Links do not work.  It doesn't take too complex of a form to 
make a Blackberry display an error that the page is too large to 
load.  We are closer than we have ever been but not quite there yet.


We are supposed to be getting a few demo phones not sure if there is 
any kind of NDA so I will not state the device that are claimed to 
have full browser functionality including flash.  We'll see how these 
work when they materialize.


Jason


I have been working on getting our forms to work on the iPhone (which 
seem to be the only mobile devices that seem to work with our internal 
WiFi network) but it is a bit of an uphill challenge.


As people have previously said, some objects, like menus and 
double-clicking on table rows, don't work on the iPhone.  Also, getting 
large fields to display with a scroll-bar is a bit hit-and-miss 
(although I have been given a JavaScript workaround from BMC that 
sometimes helps).  For example, getting the diary to display caused me 
quite a headache.  My final solution was to write it out to an HTML page 
and then use an open URL Perform Action AL to display it.  Thanks for 
the idea to get menus displayed as tables - I'll give that a try.


Buying an Aeroprise set-up is not a solution for us as with the number 
of devices that we are using doesn't justify the cost.  Aeroprise did 
tell me once that they are working on a solution specifically for the 
iPhone but were a bit sketchy on details.


I have also written CGI scripts using ARSperl, but that is not really 
the way forward that I wish to take.


Hope this helps,

Ian


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