Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Mayfield, Andy L.]

I totally disagree. The thin client is simply unable to do everything
you can do with the fat client.  It's a great tool for those not needing
all functionality of the WUT, but it's just not as powerful as the WUT. 

 

Andy L. Mayfield
Protection & Control Technician Sr.
Alabama Power Company
Office: 205-226-1805
Cell: 205-288-9140
SoLinc: 10*19140 



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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Jim Coryat
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:50 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

 

For me I use desktop client and web client.  Seems to be more readily
understandable for those users who are new to the Remedy system.  Fat
client went out with the client server architecture of the 90's.

 

~Jim 

From: Axton [mailto:axton.gr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

 

** I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the clients.  But
that was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that right; the
cobwebs are getting thick).

Axton

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf
 wrote:

Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client
or even Big Boned Client? :)

Tauf Chowdhury 
Analyst, Service Management
Office: 631.858.7765
Mobile:646.483.2779


 


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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:34 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

I expect most of the folks who don't move up to 7.5 will have to refer
to the Admin Tool as the "True Windows Administration Tool" to
differentiate it from the "Developer Studio."

I couldn't resist

Jennifer Meyer

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:27 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use "WAT" for Windows
Administration Tool.  Now that it's called "Developer Studio", that
acronym will most likely fade away.


-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
BMC Software, Inc.

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.

Jennifer Meyer

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.
WUT is actually an old name that has been around for a long time.
Probably was used much more in the past than fat/thin client.
--Original Message--
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that "WUT" stands for "windows user tool."
When did we stop saying "fat client" and "thin client" or "mid tier?"
 
Are "fat" and ""thin" outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or
simply offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone
please answer definitively, because "WUT" threw me for a loop for a
couple of weeks, and I felt really dumb.
 
I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Jarl Grøneng]

2009/4/18 Louise Van Hine :
> **
> never heard or used the term "fat client" - when ARWeb first came out it was
> billed as the "thin client" in contradistinction to the "thick client" WUT.
>
> Back in the good old days of the UNIX-only server version, there was an


Due to lack of beeing supported we created our own perl based terminal
version :-)

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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Louise Van Hine]

never heard or used the term "fat client" - when ARWeb first came out it was 
billed as the "thin client" in contradistinction to the "thick client" WUT.
 
Back in the good old days of the UNIX-only server version, there was an ASCII 
client.  Otherwise known as the anorexic client.




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Re: OT: Friday Humor: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Susan Palmer]

Very impressive !!  Vote for David as entertainment at the new user group.
Remember when all the top guys used to get on stage and do a song.  The
polynesian outfits with the coconuts was particularily memorable.  Granted
... for the rap David ... you'll need appropriately loose clothing and lots
of bling!

That brought a smile to a long week!!

thanks,
Susan

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Easter, David  wrote:

> ** > Now THIN client has improved but will never be quite as good as the
> FAT client but many will continue to overlook that.
>
> I humbly disagree, and I thought the best way to voice that would be in a
> rap.  (Please imagine a posse emphasizing the parts in bold...)
>
>
> I sat down today at my *PC*
>
> Gonna log into my Rem-*E-DY*
>
> But yo’ yo’ dog, what do I see?
>
> My W-U-T is *R-I-P*
>
>
>
> Times have *changed*, tools rear*ranged*
>
> Someone’s got to be de*ranged*
>
> Phat clients are gone, now ain’t that strange
>
> OWA now’s my link to Ex*change*
>
>
>
> I ain’t here to dis’ the web *client*
>
> Not tryin’ to be rude or be de*fiant*
>
> I’m ready to bend, gonna be real *pliant*
>
> Don’t wanna go to jail not bein’ com*pliant*
>
>
>
> Web’s now the *norm*, got to *perform*
>
> Cloud Computing is the *per-fect storm*
>
> It does the work – same function and form
>
> Brings data to the masses, keeps them in*formed*
>
>
>
> So here I go don’t need no *docs*
>
> Just launch IE or *Firefox*
>
> Wow, look at that - this UI *rocks!*
>
> This dope web client *knocks* *off my socks!*
>
> * *
>
> I save time typing ‘cause of auto-com*plete*
>
> And collapsible panels keep *my view* *neat*
>
> Flex-based flashboards?  Man, that’s *sweet*
>
> It’s got fill layout – totally *|_337!  *
>
> * *
>
> New JavaScript engines make it *fast*
>
> This technology’s built to *last*
>
> Yo, I’m sold – my test is *passed*
>
> My expectations it has *surpassed*
>
>
>
> Hey thick client – *C-YA*!  Wouldn’t wanna *be ya*!
>
> Your days are numbered, I guaran*tee ya*
>
> From Sunnyvale to South *Korea*
>
> Fire up that browser – we’ll *B-M-C ya!*
>
>
> -David J. Easter
> Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
> BMC Software, Inc.
>
> The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
> this E-mail *DEFINITELY *do not reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
> voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
> spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
> Inc.
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Sanford, Claire
> *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2009 11:13 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>
> ** Bravo Susan!  I couldn't have said it better myself!
>
> Go FAT!
>
> What a bunch of sizeists!
>
>  --
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Susan Palmer
> *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2009 12:33 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>
> ** Since '95 I don't recall Remedy ever referring to it as the FAT
> client.  Whenever I heard the term I thought it was an old geek term
> especially once web became more prolific.  And as with most THIN clients in
> the past they did not have the full abilities of the FAT client which was
> many times overlooked since often THIN seemed to be preferred.  But many
> people realized that the FAT client was more fulfilling and rewarding.  Now
> THIN client has improved but will never be quite as good as the FAT client
> but many will continue to overlook that.  Go FAT !!
>
> Susan  :)
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Shyman, Jonathan wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>> No, see, that's no good beacuse it infers the existence of a "smart"
>> client.
>>
>> You know, a client that will fill out most of the fields on a form for
>> you, get you coffee, ask your boss for a raise and tell you it can't open
>> the pod bay doors now.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> J.T. Shyman
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Reiser,
>> John J
>> Sent: Fri 4/17/2009 9:38 AM
>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>>
>> How about the dumb client? ARText Ver 1.5
&g

Re: OT: Friday Humor: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Juan Ingles]

LOL.I love it!

So, should we call you "P-David", "Easter-Dog", or maybe "theBig DjE?"

Juan Ingles

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Easter, David wrote:

> ** > Now THIN client has improved but will never be quite as good as the
> FAT client but many will continue to overlook that.
>
> I humbly disagree, and I thought the best way to voice that would be in a
> rap.  (Please imagine a posse emphasizing the parts in bold...)
>
>
> I sat down today at my *PC*
>
> Gonna log into my Rem-*E-DY*
>
> But yo’ yo’ dog, what do I see?
>
> My W-U-T is *R-I-P*
>
>
>
> Times have *changed*, tools rear*ranged*
>
> Someone’s got to be de*ranged*
>
> Phat clients are gone, now ain’t that strange
>
> OWA now’s my link to Ex*change*
>
>
>
> I ain’t here to dis’ the web *client*
>
> Not tryin’ to be rude or be de*fiant*
>
> I’m ready to bend, gonna be real *pliant*
>
> Don’t wanna go to jail not bein’ com*pliant*
>
>
>
> Web’s now the *norm*, got to *perform*
>
> Cloud Computing is the *per-fect storm*
>
> It does the work – same function and form
>
> Brings data to the masses, keeps them in*formed*
>
>
>
> So here I go don’t need no *docs*
>
> Just launch IE or *Firefox*
>
> Wow, look at that - this UI *rocks!*
>
> This dope web client *knocks* *off my socks!*
>
> * *
>
> I save time typing ‘cause of auto-com*plete*
>
> And collapsible panels keep *my view* *neat*
>
> Flex-based flashboards?  Man, that’s *sweet*
>
> It’s got fill layout – totally *|_337!  *
>
> * *
>
> New JavaScript engines make it *fast*
>
> This technology’s built to *last*
>
> Yo, I’m sold – my test is *passed*
>
> My expectations it has *surpassed*
>
>
>
> Hey thick client – *C-YA*!  Wouldn’t wanna *be ya*!
>
> Your days are numbered, I guaran*tee ya*
>
> From Sunnyvale to South *Korea*
>
> Fire up that browser – we’ll *B-M-C ya!*
>
>
> -David J. Easter
> Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
> BMC Software, Inc.
>
> The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
> this E-mail *DEFINITELY *do not reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
> voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
> spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
> Inc.
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Sanford, Claire
> *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2009 11:13 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>
> ** Bravo Susan!  I couldn't have said it better myself!
>
> Go FAT!
>
> What a bunch of sizeists!
>
>  --
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Susan Palmer
> *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2009 12:33 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>
> ** Since '95 I don't recall Remedy ever referring to it as the FAT
> client.  Whenever I heard the term I thought it was an old geek term
> especially once web became more prolific.  And as with most THIN clients in
> the past they did not have the full abilities of the FAT client which was
> many times overlooked since often THIN seemed to be preferred.  But many
> people realized that the FAT client was more fulfilling and rewarding.  Now
> THIN client has improved but will never be quite as good as the FAT client
> but many will continue to overlook that.  Go FAT !!
>
> Susan  :)
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Shyman, Jonathan wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>> No, see, that's no good beacuse it infers the existence of a "smart"
>> client.
>>
>> You know, a client that will fill out most of the fields on a form for
>> you, get you coffee, ask your boss for a raise and tell you it can't open
>> the pod bay doors now.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> J.T. Shyman
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Reiser,
>> John J
>> Sent: Fri 4/17/2009 9:38 AM
>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>>
>> How about the dumb client? ARText Ver 1.5
>>
>> ---
>> John J. Reiser
>> Senior Software Development Analyst
>> Remedy Administrator/Developer
>> Lockheed Martin - MS2
>> The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
>> P

Re: OT: Friday Humor: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[John Sundberg]

Most x l nt



Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 17, 2009, at 2:13 PM, "Easter, David"   
wrote:



**
> Now THIN client has improved but will never be quite as good as  
the FAT client but many will continue to overlook that.


I humbly disagree, and I thought the best way to voice that would be  
in a rap.  (Please imagine a posse emphasizing the parts in bold...)


I sat down today at my PC
Gonna log into my Rem-E-DY
But yo’ yo’ dog, what do I see?
My W-U-T is R-I-P

Times have changed, tools rearranged
Someone’s got to be deranged
Phat clients are gone, now ain’t that strange
OWA now’s my link to Exchange

I ain’t here to dis’ the web client
Not tryin’ to be rude or be defiant
I’m ready to bend, gonna be real pliant
Don’t wanna go to jail not bein’ compliant

Web’s now the norm, got to perform
Cloud Computing is the per-fect storm
It does the work – same function and form
Brings data to the masses, keeps them informed

So here I go don’t need no docs
Just launch IE or Firefox
Wow, look at that - this UI rocks!
This dope web client knocks off my socks!

I save time typing ‘cause of auto-complete
And collapsible panels keep my view neat
Flex-based flashboards?  Man, that’s sweet
It’s got fill layout – totally |_337!

New JavaScript engines make it fast
This technology’s built to last
Yo, I’m sold – my test is passed
My expectations it has surpassed

Hey thick client – C-YA!  Wouldn’t wanna be ya!
Your days are numbered, I guarantee ya
From Sunnyvale to South Korea
Fire up that browser – we’ll B-M-C ya!


-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
BMC Software, Inc.

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expressed in this E-mail DEFINITELY do not reflect those of BMC  
Software, Inc.  My voluntary participation in this forum is not  
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relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.



From: Action Request System discussion  list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire

Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:13 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

**
Bravo Susan!  I couldn't have said it better myself!

Go FAT!

What a bunch of sizeists!

From: Action Request System discussion  list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
] On Behalf Of Susan Palmer

Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 12:33 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

**
Since '95 I don't recall Remedy ever referring to it as the FAT  
client.  Whenever I heard the term I thought it was an old geek term  
especially once web became more prolific.  And as with most THIN  
clients in the past they did not have the full abilities of the FAT  
client which was many times overlooked since often THIN seemed to be  
preferred.  But many people realized that the FAT client was more  
fulfilling and rewarding.  Now THIN client has improved but will  
never be quite as good as the FAT client but many will continue to  
overlook that.  Go FAT !!


Susan  :)

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Shyman, Jonathan > wrote:

**
No, see, that's no good beacuse it infers the existence of a "smart"  
client.


You know, a client that will fill out most of the fields on a form  
for you, get you coffee, ask your boss for a raise and tell you it  
can't open the pod bay doors now.


:)

J.T. Shyman



-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of  
Reiser, John J

Sent: Fri 4/17/2009 9:38 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

How about the dumb client? ARText Ver 1.5

---
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Senior Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. -  
paraphrased by me

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black

Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:43 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Axton,

I think I was more like this:

RemedyWeb was the "thick web client" (applet based), (AKA "Fat web  
client")


ARWeb was the "thin web client" (DHTML/Javascript based)

WUT was the v4 Windows User Tool (Maybe also called the "FAT client".
Note it is fatter than the Fat web client by two more capital sized
letters.)

You also had to deal with the UUT. (Un*x User Tool). However, you
might also have called it the "OMUT" OSF/Motif User Tool too. But as I
only used it a few times I really do not want to try to remember it in
a negative way. Rather I will choose to focus on the positive
memories It's dead.

Then you also had to deal with the MUT. (Macintosh User Tool, was that

Re: Friday Humor: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Chowdhury, Tauf]

You're all size queens! Have a good weekend lol

 

Tauf Chowdhury 

Analyst, Service Management

Office: 631.858.7765

Mobile:646.483.2779

 

 

 

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:32 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Friday Humor: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

 

** 

Indeed. That's a very solid effort, David, especially coming from a
middle-aged white guy. I would NOT recommend doing this at the next
executive meeting, though. I am sure you're way ahead of me on that. 

J.T. , I like your enhancements, too. 

Rick

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: "Shyman, Jonathan" 
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:23:00 -0500
To: 
Subject: Re: Friday Humor: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Not bad, David, not bad.

 

Here's a suggestion for your "rapper" name: B. MC Remedy

 

Now all you need is a four-finger ring that says ITSM in diamonds. 

 

J

 

--- J.T. Shyman

 

 

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:13 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OT: Friday Humor: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

 

** 

> Now THIN client has improved but will never be quite as good as the
FAT client but many will continue to overlook that.

 

I humbly disagree, and I thought the best way to voice that would be in
a rap.  (Please imagine a posse emphasizing the parts in bold...)

 

I sat down today at my PC

Gonna log into my Rem-E-DY

But yo' yo' dog, what do I see?

My W-U-T is R-I-P

 

Times have changed, tools rearranged

Someone's got to be deranged

Phat clients are gone, now ain't that strange

OWA now's my link to Exchange

 

I ain't here to dis' the web client

Not tryin' to be rude or be defiant

I'm ready to bend, gonna be real pliant

Don't wanna go to jail not bein' compliant

 

Web's now the norm, got to perform

Cloud Computing is the per-fect storm

It does the work - same function and form

Brings data to the masses, keeps them informed

 

So here I go don't need no docs

Just launch IE or Firefox

Wow, look at that - this UI rocks!

This dope web client knocks off my socks!

 

I save time typing 'cause of auto-complete

And collapsible panels keep my view neat

Flex-based flashboards?  Man, that's sweet

It's got fill layout - totally |_337!  

 

New JavaScript engines make it fast

This technology's built to last

Yo, I'm sold - my test is passed

My expectations it has surpassed

 

Hey thick client - C-YA!  Wouldn't wanna be ya!

Your days are numbered, I guarantee ya

>From Sunnyvale to South Korea

Fire up that browser - we'll B-M-C ya!

 

 

-David J. Easter

Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development

BMC Software, Inc.

 

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Re: Friday Humor: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Rick Cook]

Indeed. That's a very solid effort, David, especially coming from a middle-aged 
white guy. I would NOT recommend doing this at the next executive meeting, 
though.  I am sure you're way ahead of me on that. 

J.T. , I like your enhancements, too. 

Rick
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Shyman, Jonathan" 

Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:23:00 
To: 
Subject: Re: Friday Humor: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?


Not bad, David, not bad.

 

Here's a suggestion for your "rapper" name: B. MC Remedy

 

Now all you need is a four-finger ring that says ITSM in diamonds. 

 

J

 

--- J.T. Shyman

 

 

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:13 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OT: Friday Humor: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

 

** 

> Now THIN client has improved but will never be quite as good as the
FAT client but many will continue to overlook that.

 

I humbly disagree, and I thought the best way to voice that would be in
a rap.  (Please imagine a posse emphasizing the parts in bold...)

 

I sat down today at my PC

Gonna log into my Rem-E-DY

But yo' yo' dog, what do I see?

My W-U-T is R-I-P

 

Times have changed, tools rearranged

Someone's got to be deranged

Phat clients are gone, now ain't that strange

OWA now's my link to Exchange

 

I ain't here to dis' the web client

Not tryin' to be rude or be defiant

I'm ready to bend, gonna be real pliant

Don't wanna go to jail not bein' compliant

 

Web's now the norm, got to perform

Cloud Computing is the per-fect storm

It does the work - same function and form

Brings data to the masses, keeps them informed

 

So here I go don't need no docs

Just launch IE or Firefox

Wow, look at that - this UI rocks!

This dope web client knocks off my socks!

 

I save time typing 'cause of auto-complete

And collapsible panels keep my view neat

Flex-based flashboards?  Man, that's sweet

It's got fill layout - totally |_337!  

 

New JavaScript engines make it fast

This technology's built to last

Yo, I'm sold - my test is passed

My expectations it has surpassed

 

Hey thick client - C-YA!  Wouldn't wanna be ya!

Your days are numbered, I guarantee ya

From Sunnyvale to South Korea

Fire up that browser - we'll B-M-C ya!

 

 

-David J. Easter

Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development

BMC Software, Inc.

 

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in this E-mail DEFINITELY do not reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role
as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC
Software, Inc.

 

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Re: OT: Friday Humor: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Howard Richter]

It is going the way of the 8 track.

May the tape not break and the case not melt.



On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Easter, David  wrote:

> ** > Now THIN client has improved but will never be quite as good as the
> FAT client but many will continue to overlook that.
>
> I humbly disagree, and I thought the best way to voice that would be in a
> rap.  (Please imagine a posse emphasizing the parts in bold...)
>
>
> I sat down today at my *PC*
>
> Gonna log into my Rem-*E-DY*
>
> But yo’ yo’ dog, what do I see?
>
> My W-U-T is *R-I-P*
>
>
>
> Times have *changed*, tools rear*ranged*
>
> Someone’s got to be de*ranged*
>
> Phat clients are gone, now ain’t that strange
>
> OWA now’s my link to Ex*change*
>
>
>
> I ain’t here to dis’ the web *client*
>
> Not tryin’ to be rude or be de*fiant*
>
> I’m ready to bend, gonna be real *pliant*
>
> Don’t wanna go to jail not bein’ com*pliant*
>
>
>
> Web’s now the *norm*, got to *perform*
>
> Cloud Computing is the *per-fect storm*
>
> It does the work – same function and form
>
> Brings data to the masses, keeps them in*formed*
>
>
>
> So here I go don’t need no *docs*
>
> Just launch IE or *Firefox*
>
> Wow, look at that - this UI *rocks!*
>
> This dope web client *knocks* *off my socks!*
>
> * *
>
> I save time typing ‘cause of auto-com*plete*
>
> And collapsible panels keep *my view* *neat*
>
> Flex-based flashboards?  Man, that’s *sweet*
>
> It’s got fill layout – totally *|_337!  *
>
> * *
>
> New JavaScript engines make it *fast*
>
> This technology’s built to *last*
>
> Yo, I’m sold – my test is *passed*
>
> My expectations it has *surpassed*
>
>
>
> Hey thick client – *C-YA*!  Wouldn’t wanna *be ya*!
>
> Your days are numbered, I guaran*tee ya*
>
> From Sunnyvale to South *Korea*
>
> Fire up that browser – we’ll *B-M-C ya!*
>
>
> -David J. Easter
> Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
> BMC Software, Inc.
>
> The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
> this E-mail *DEFINITELY *do not reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
> voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
> spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
> Inc.
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Sanford, Claire
> *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2009 11:13 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>
> ** Bravo Susan!  I couldn't have said it better myself!
>
> Go FAT!
>
> What a bunch of sizeists!
>
>  --
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Susan Palmer
> *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2009 12:33 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>
> ** Since '95 I don't recall Remedy ever referring to it as the FAT
> client.  Whenever I heard the term I thought it was an old geek term
> especially once web became more prolific.  And as with most THIN clients in
> the past they did not have the full abilities of the FAT client which was
> many times overlooked since often THIN seemed to be preferred.  But many
> people realized that the FAT client was more fulfilling and rewarding.  Now
> THIN client has improved but will never be quite as good as the FAT client
> but many will continue to overlook that.  Go FAT !!
>
> Susan  :)
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Shyman, Jonathan wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>> No, see, that's no good beacuse it infers the existence of a "smart"
>> client.
>>
>> You know, a client that will fill out most of the fields on a form for
>> you, get you coffee, ask your boss for a raise and tell you it can't open
>> the pod bay doors now.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> J.T. Shyman
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Reiser,
>> John J
>> Sent: Fri 4/17/2009 9:38 AM
>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>>
>> How about the dumb client? ARText Ver 1.5
>>
>> ---
>> John J. Reiser
>> Senior Software Development Analyst
>> Remedy Administrator/Developer
>> Lockheed Martin - MS2
>> The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
>> Pay close attention and be illuminated by it

Re: Friday Humor: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Shyman, Jonathan]

Not bad, David, not bad.

 

Here's a suggestion for your "rapper" name: B. MC Remedy

 

Now all you need is a four-finger ring that says ITSM in diamonds. 

 

J

 

--- J.T. Shyman

 

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:13 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OT: Friday Humor: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

 

** 

> Now THIN client has improved but will never be quite as good as the
FAT client but many will continue to overlook that.

 

I humbly disagree, and I thought the best way to voice that would be in
a rap.  (Please imagine a posse emphasizing the parts in bold...)

 

I sat down today at my PC

Gonna log into my Rem-E-DY

But yo' yo' dog, what do I see?

My W-U-T is R-I-P

 

Times have changed, tools rearranged

Someone's got to be deranged

Phat clients are gone, now ain't that strange

OWA now's my link to Exchange

 

I ain't here to dis' the web client

Not tryin' to be rude or be defiant

I'm ready to bend, gonna be real pliant

Don't wanna go to jail not bein' compliant

 

Web's now the norm, got to perform

Cloud Computing is the per-fect storm

It does the work - same function and form

Brings data to the masses, keeps them informed

 

So here I go don't need no docs

Just launch IE or Firefox

Wow, look at that - this UI rocks!

This dope web client knocks off my socks!

 

I save time typing 'cause of auto-complete

And collapsible panels keep my view neat

Flex-based flashboards?  Man, that's sweet

It's got fill layout - totally |_337!  

 

New JavaScript engines make it fast

This technology's built to last

Yo, I'm sold - my test is passed

My expectations it has surpassed

 

Hey thick client - C-YA!  Wouldn't wanna be ya!

Your days are numbered, I guarantee ya

>From Sunnyvale to South Korea

Fire up that browser - we'll B-M-C ya!

 

 

-David J. Easter

Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development

BMC Software, Inc.

 

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in this E-mail DEFINITELY do not reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role
as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC
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Re: OT: Friday Humor: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Warren Baltimore]

So, what did YOU drink for lunch today in the BMC Cafeteria

:-p

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Easter, David  wrote:

> ** > Now THIN client has improved but will never be quite as good as the
> FAT client but many will continue to overlook that.
>
> I humbly disagree, and I thought the best way to voice that would be in a
> rap.  (Please imagine a posse emphasizing the parts in bold...)
>
>
> I sat down today at my *PC*
>
> Gonna log into my Rem-*E-DY*
>
> But yo’ yo’ dog, what do I see?
>
> My W-U-T is *R-I-P*
>
>
>
> Times have *changed*, tools rear*ranged*
>
> Someone’s got to be de*ranged*
>
> Phat clients are gone, now ain’t that strange
>
> OWA now’s my link to Ex*change*
>
>
>
> I ain’t here to dis’ the web *client*
>
> Not tryin’ to be rude or be de*fiant*
>
> I’m ready to bend, gonna be real *pliant*
>
> Don’t wanna go to jail not bein’ com*pliant*
>
>
>
> Web’s now the *norm*, got to *perform*
>
> Cloud Computing is the *per-fect storm*
>
> It does the work – same function and form
>
> Brings data to the masses, keeps them in*formed*
>
>
>
> So here I go don’t need no *docs*
>
> Just launch IE or *Firefox*
>
> Wow, look at that - this UI *rocks!*
>
> This dope web client *knocks* *off my socks!*
>
> * *
>
> I save time typing ‘cause of auto-com*plete*
>
> And collapsible panels keep *my view* *neat*
>
> Flex-based flashboards?  Man, that’s *sweet*
>
> It’s got fill layout – totally *|_337!  *
>
> * *
>
> New JavaScript engines make it *fast*
>
> This technology’s built to *last*
>
> Yo, I’m sold – my test is *passed*
>
> My expectations it has *surpassed*
>
>
>
> Hey thick client – *C-YA*!  Wouldn’t wanna *be ya*!
>
> Your days are numbered, I guaran*tee ya*
>
> From Sunnyvale to South *Korea*
>
> Fire up that browser – we’ll *B-M-C ya!*
>
>
> -David J. Easter
> Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
> BMC Software, Inc.
>
> The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
> this E-mail *DEFINITELY *do not reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
> voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
> spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
> Inc.
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Sanford, Claire
> *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2009 11:13 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>
> ** Bravo Susan!  I couldn't have said it better myself!
>
> Go FAT!
>
> What a bunch of sizeists!
>
>  --
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Susan Palmer
> *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2009 12:33 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>
> ** Since '95 I don't recall Remedy ever referring to it as the FAT
> client.  Whenever I heard the term I thought it was an old geek term
> especially once web became more prolific.  And as with most THIN clients in
> the past they did not have the full abilities of the FAT client which was
> many times overlooked since often THIN seemed to be preferred.  But many
> people realized that the FAT client was more fulfilling and rewarding.  Now
> THIN client has improved but will never be quite as good as the FAT client
> but many will continue to overlook that.  Go FAT !!
>
> Susan  :)
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Shyman, Jonathan wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>> No, see, that's no good beacuse it infers the existence of a "smart"
>> client.
>>
>> You know, a client that will fill out most of the fields on a form for
>> you, get you coffee, ask your boss for a raise and tell you it can't open
>> the pod bay doors now.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> J.T. Shyman
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Reiser,
>> John J
>> Sent: Fri 4/17/2009 9:38 AM
>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>>
>> How about the dumb client? ARText Ver 1.5
>>
>> ---
>> John J. Reiser
>> Senior Software Development Analyst
>> Remedy Administrator/Developer
>> Lockheed Martin - MS2
>> The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
>> Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - p

OT: Friday Humor: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Easter, David]

> Now THIN client has improved but will never be quite as good as the FAT 
> client but many will continue to overlook that.

I humbly disagree, and I thought the best way to voice that would be in a rap.  
(Please imagine a posse emphasizing the parts in bold...)

I sat down today at my PC
Gonna log into my Rem-E-DY
But yo' yo' dog, what do I see?
My W-U-T is R-I-P

Times have changed, tools rearranged
Someone's got to be deranged
Phat clients are gone, now ain't that strange
OWA now's my link to Exchange

I ain't here to dis' the web client
Not tryin' to be rude or be defiant
I'm ready to bend, gonna be real pliant
Don't wanna go to jail not bein' compliant

Web's now the norm, got to perform
Cloud Computing is the per-fect storm
It does the work - same function and form
Brings data to the masses, keeps them informed

So here I go don't need no docs
Just launch IE or Firefox
Wow, look at that - this UI rocks!
This dope web client knocks off my socks!

I save time typing 'cause of auto-complete
And collapsible panels keep my view neat
Flex-based flashboards?  Man, that's sweet
It's got fill layout - totally |_337!

New JavaScript engines make it fast
This technology's built to last
Yo, I'm sold - my test is passed
My expectations it has surpassed

Hey thick client - C-YA!  Wouldn't wanna be ya!
Your days are numbered, I guarantee ya
>From Sunnyvale to South Korea
Fire up that browser - we'll B-M-C ya!


-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
BMC Software, Inc.

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail DEFINITELY do not reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:13 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

**
Bravo Susan!  I couldn't have said it better myself!

Go FAT!

What a bunch of sizeists!


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Susan Palmer
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 12:33 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

**
Since '95 I don't recall Remedy ever referring to it as the FAT client.  
Whenever I heard the term I thought it was an old geek term especially once web 
became more prolific.  And as with most THIN clients in the past they did not 
have the full abilities of the FAT client which was many times overlooked since 
often THIN seemed to be preferred.  But many people realized that the FAT 
client was more fulfilling and rewarding.  Now THIN client has improved but 
will never be quite as good as the FAT client but many will continue to 
overlook that.  Go FAT !!

Susan  :)

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Shyman, Jonathan 
mailto:jshy...@columnit.com>> wrote:
**

No, see, that's no good beacuse it infers the existence of a "smart" client.

You know, a client that will fill out most of the fields on a form for you, get 
you coffee, ask your boss for a raise and tell you it can't open the pod bay 
doors now.

:)

J.T. Shyman



-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Reiser, John J
Sent: Fri 4/17/2009 9:38 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

How about the dumb client? ARText Ver 1.5

---
John J. Reiser
Senior Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:43 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Axton,

I think I was more like this:

RemedyWeb was the "thick web client" (applet based), (AKA "Fat web client")

ARWeb was the "thin web client" (DHTML/Javascript based)

WUT was the v4 Windows User Tool (Maybe also called the "FAT client".
Note it is fatter than the Fat web client by two more capital sized
letters.)

You also had to deal with the UUT. (Un*x User Tool). However, you
might also have called it the "OMUT" OSF/Motif User Tool too. But as I
only used it a few times I really do not want to try to remember it in
a negative way. Rather I will choose to 

Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Sanford, Claire]

Bravo Susan!  I couldn't have said it better myself!  
 
Go FAT!
 
What a bunch of sizeists!



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Susan Palmer
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 12:33 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?


** 
Since '95 I don't recall Remedy ever referring to it as the FAT client.
Whenever I heard the term I thought it was an old geek term especially
once web became more prolific.  And as with most THIN clients in the
past they did not have the full abilities of the FAT client which was
many times overlooked since often THIN seemed to be preferred.  But many
people realized that the FAT client was more fulfilling and rewarding.
Now THIN client has improved but will never be quite as good as the FAT
client but many will continue to overlook that.  Go FAT !!
 
Susan  :)


On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Shyman, Jonathan 
wrote:


** 

No, see, that's no good beacuse it infers the existence of a
"smart" client.

You know, a client that will fill out most of the fields on a
form for you, get you coffee, ask your boss for a raise and tell you it
can't open the pod bay doors now.

:)

J.T. Shyman 



-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf
of Reiser, John J
Sent: Fri 4/17/2009 9:38 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
    Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

How about the dumb client? ARText Ver 1.5

---
John J. Reiser
Senior Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. -
paraphrased by me
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:43 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
    Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Axton,

I think I was more like this:

RemedyWeb was the "thick web client" (applet based), (AKA "Fat
web client")

ARWeb was the "thin web client" (DHTML/Javascript based)

WUT was the v4 Windows User Tool (Maybe also called the "FAT
client".
Note it is fatter than the Fat web client by two more capital
sized
letters.)

You also had to deal with the UUT. (Un*x User Tool). However,
you
might also have called it the "OMUT" OSF/Motif User Tool too.
But as I
only used it a few times I really do not want to try to remember
it in
a negative way. Rather I will choose to focus on the positive
memories It's dead.

Then you also had to deal with the MUT. (Macintosh User Tool,
was that
v3? or just v2?) Which I would call a "FAt client". (Not quite
as fat
as the "FAT client", but fatter than the Fat web client by one
capital
letter.)

Did I forget any clients? I thought that there was an ARS Shell
out
there too, but I can not seem to find it right now. :(

[ It is Friday right? :) ]

--
Carey Matthew Black
BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Axton 
wrote:
> ** I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the
clients.  But
> that was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that
right; the
> cobwebs are getting thick).
>
> Axton
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf

> wrote:
>>
>> Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or
Portly Client or
>> even Big Boned Client? :)
>>
>> Tauf Chowdhury



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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Susan Palmer]

Since '95 I don't recall Remedy ever referring to it as the FAT client.
Whenever I heard the term I thought it was an old geek term especially once
web became more prolific.  And as with most THIN clients in the past they
did not have the full abilities of the FAT client which was many times
overlooked since often THIN seemed to be preferred.  But many people
realized that the FAT client was more fulfilling and rewarding.  Now THIN
client has improved but will never be quite as good as the FAT client but
many will continue to overlook that.  Go FAT !!

Susan  :)

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Shyman, Jonathan wrote:

> **
>
> No, see, that's no good beacuse it infers the existence of a "smart"
> client.
>
> You know, a client that will fill out most of the fields on a form for you,
> get you coffee, ask your boss for a raise and tell you it can't open the pod
> bay doors now.
>
> :)
>
> J.T. Shyman
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Reiser,
> John J
> Sent: Fri 4/17/2009 9:38 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>
> How about the dumb client? ARText Ver 1.5
>
> ---
> John J. Reiser
> Senior Software Development Analyst
> Remedy Administrator/Developer
> Lockheed Martin - MS2
> The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
> Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by
> me
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Carey
> Matthew Black
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:43 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>
> Axton,
>
> I think I was more like this:
>
> RemedyWeb was the "thick web client" (applet based), (AKA "Fat web client")
>
> ARWeb was the "thin web client" (DHTML/Javascript based)
>
> WUT was the v4 Windows User Tool (Maybe also called the "FAT client".
> Note it is fatter than the Fat web client by two more capital sized
> letters.)
>
> You also had to deal with the UUT. (Un*x User Tool). However, you
> might also have called it the "OMUT" OSF/Motif User Tool too. But as I
> only used it a few times I really do not want to try to remember it in
> a negative way. Rather I will choose to focus on the positive
> memories It's dead.
>
> Then you also had to deal with the MUT. (Macintosh User Tool, was that
> v3? or just v2?) Which I would call a "FAt client". (Not quite as fat
> as the "FAT client", but fatter than the Fat web client by one capital
> letter.)
>
> Did I forget any clients? I thought that there was an ARS Shell out
> there too, but I can not seem to find it right now. :(
>
> [ It is Friday right? :) ]
>
> --
> Carey Matthew Black
> BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
> ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>
> Love, then teach
> Solution = People + Process + Tools
> Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Axton  wrote:
> > ** I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the clients.  But
> > that was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that right; the
> > cobwebs are getting thick).
> >
> > Axton
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf  >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client
> or
> >> even Big Boned Client? :)
> >>
> >> Tauf Chowdhury
>
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Shyman, Jonathan]

No, see, that's no good beacuse it infers the existence of a "smart" client.

You know, a client that will fill out most of the fields on a form for you, get 
you coffee, ask your boss for a raise and tell you it can't open the pod bay 
doors now.

:)

J.T. Shyman


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Reiser, John J
Sent: Fri 4/17/2009 9:38 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
 
How about the dumb client? ARText Ver 1.5

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Senior Software Development Analyst 
Remedy Administrator/Developer 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me 
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:43 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Axton,

I think I was more like this:

RemedyWeb was the "thick web client" (applet based), (AKA "Fat web client")

ARWeb was the "thin web client" (DHTML/Javascript based)

WUT was the v4 Windows User Tool (Maybe also called the "FAT client".
Note it is fatter than the Fat web client by two more capital sized
letters.)

You also had to deal with the UUT. (Un*x User Tool). However, you
might also have called it the "OMUT" OSF/Motif User Tool too. But as I
only used it a few times I really do not want to try to remember it in
a negative way. Rather I will choose to focus on the positive
memories It's dead.

Then you also had to deal with the MUT. (Macintosh User Tool, was that
v3? or just v2?) Which I would call a "FAt client". (Not quite as fat
as the "FAT client", but fatter than the Fat web client by one capital
letter.)

Did I forget any clients? I thought that there was an ARS Shell out
there too, but I can not seem to find it right now. :(

[ It is Friday right? :) ]

-- 
Carey Matthew Black
BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Axton  wrote:
> ** I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the clients.  But
> that was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that right; the
> cobwebs are getting thick).
>
> Axton
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf 
> wrote:
>>
>> Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client or
>> even Big Boned Client? :)
>>
>> Tauf Chowdhury

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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Jim Coryat]

For me I use desktop client and web client.  Seems to be more readily
understandable for those users who are new to the Remedy system.  Fat
client went out with the client server architecture of the 90's.

 

~Jim 

From: Axton [mailto:axton.gr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

 

** I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the clients.  But
that was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that right; the
cobwebs are getting thick).

Axton

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf
 wrote:

Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client
or even Big Boned Client? :)

Tauf Chowdhury 
Analyst, Service Management
Office: 631.858.7765
Mobile:646.483.2779


 


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:34 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

I expect most of the folks who don't move up to 7.5 will have to refer
to the Admin Tool as the "True Windows Administration Tool" to
differentiate it from the "Developer Studio."

I couldn't resist

Jennifer Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:27 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use "WAT" for Windows
Administration Tool.  Now that it's called "Developer Studio", that
acronym will most likely fade away.


-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
BMC Software, Inc.

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed
in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.
My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a
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BMC Software, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.

Jennifer Meyer

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.
WUT is actually an old name that has been around for a long time.
Probably was used much more in the past than fat/thin client.
--Original Message--
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that "WUT" stands for "windows user tool."
When did we stop saying "fat client" and "thin client" or "mid tier?"
 
Are "fat" and ""thin" outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or
simply offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone
please answer definitively, because "WUT" threw me for a loop for a
couple of weeks, and I felt really dumb.
 
I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division ITSM
& ITAM Services
Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Howard Richter]

If its too Fat will BMC charge more for it, like United?

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Reiser, John J wrote:

> How about the dumb client? ARText Ver 1.5
>
> ---
> John J. Reiser
> Senior Software Development Analyst
> Remedy Administrator/Developer
> Lockheed Martin - MS2
> The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
> Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by
> me
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:43 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>
> Axton,
>
> I think I was more like this:
>
> RemedyWeb was the "thick web client" (applet based), (AKA "Fat web client")
>
> ARWeb was the "thin web client" (DHTML/Javascript based)
>
> WUT was the v4 Windows User Tool (Maybe also called the "FAT client".
> Note it is fatter than the Fat web client by two more capital sized
> letters.)
>
> You also had to deal with the UUT. (Un*x User Tool). However, you
> might also have called it the "OMUT" OSF/Motif User Tool too. But as I
> only used it a few times I really do not want to try to remember it in
> a negative way. Rather I will choose to focus on the positive
> memories It's dead.
>
> Then you also had to deal with the MUT. (Macintosh User Tool, was that
> v3? or just v2?) Which I would call a "FAt client". (Not quite as fat
> as the "FAT client", but fatter than the Fat web client by one capital
> letter.)
>
> Did I forget any clients? I thought that there was an ARS Shell out
> there too, but I can not seem to find it right now. :(
>
> [ It is Friday right? :) ]
>
> --
> Carey Matthew Black
> BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
> ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>
> Love, then teach
> Solution = People + Process + Tools
> Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Axton  wrote:
> > ** I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the clients.  But
> > that was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that right; the
> > cobwebs are getting thick).
> >
> > Axton
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf  >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client
> or
> >> even Big Boned Client? :)
> >>
> >> Tauf Chowdhury
>
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Rick Cook]

Tell it to only accept lower case letters in small font sizes. And NEVER 
maximize the window. Its just empty pixels. 

Rick
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Pierson, Shawn" 

Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:08:13 
To: 
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?


I need help now.  I had the fat client installed on my PC, and thought I would 
be a nice guy and help it lose some weight.  So I deleted the contents of the 
C:\Home directory and C:\Program Files\AR System\User\resdlls\ which did make 
it thinner, but now it doesn't work.

Any suggestions?  Is the best way to help the fat client lose weight exercise?  
I run my fat client every day and if anything it gets larger with all the cache 
downloaded for the different forms.

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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Reiser, John J]

How about the dumb client? ARText Ver 1.5

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Senior Software Development Analyst 
Remedy Administrator/Developer 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me 
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:43 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Axton,

I think I was more like this:

RemedyWeb was the "thick web client" (applet based), (AKA "Fat web client")

ARWeb was the "thin web client" (DHTML/Javascript based)

WUT was the v4 Windows User Tool (Maybe also called the "FAT client".
Note it is fatter than the Fat web client by two more capital sized
letters.)

You also had to deal with the UUT. (Un*x User Tool). However, you
might also have called it the "OMUT" OSF/Motif User Tool too. But as I
only used it a few times I really do not want to try to remember it in
a negative way. Rather I will choose to focus on the positive
memories It's dead.

Then you also had to deal with the MUT. (Macintosh User Tool, was that
v3? or just v2?) Which I would call a "FAt client". (Not quite as fat
as the "FAT client", but fatter than the Fat web client by one capital
letter.)

Did I forget any clients? I thought that there was an ARS Shell out
there too, but I can not seem to find it right now. :(

[ It is Friday right? :) ]

-- 
Carey Matthew Black
BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Axton  wrote:
> ** I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the clients.  But
> that was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that right; the
> cobwebs are getting thick).
>
> Axton
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf 
> wrote:
>>
>> Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client or
>> even Big Boned Client? :)
>>
>> Tauf Chowdhury

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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Pierson, Shawn]

I need help now.  I had the fat client installed on my PC, and thought I would 
be a nice guy and help it lose some weight.  So I deleted the contents of the 
C:\Home directory and C:\Program Files\AR System\User\resdlls\ which did make 
it thinner, but now it doesn't work.

Any suggestions?  Is the best way to help the fat client lose weight exercise?  
I run my fat client every day and if anything it gets larger with all the cache 
downloaded for the different forms.

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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Carey Matthew Black]

Axton,

I think I was more like this:

RemedyWeb was the "thick web client" (applet based), (AKA "Fat web client")

ARWeb was the "thin web client" (DHTML/Javascript based)

WUT was the v4 Windows User Tool (Maybe also called the "FAT client".
Note it is fatter than the Fat web client by two more capital sized
letters.)

You also had to deal with the UUT. (Un*x User Tool). However, you
might also have called it the "OMUT" OSF/Motif User Tool too. But as I
only used it a few times I really do not want to try to remember it in
a negative way. Rather I will choose to focus on the positive
memories It's dead.

Then you also had to deal with the MUT. (Macintosh User Tool, was that
v3? or just v2?) Which I would call a "FAt client". (Not quite as fat
as the "FAT client", but fatter than the Fat web client by one capital
letter.)

Did I forget any clients? I thought that there was an ARS Shell out
there too, but I can not seem to find it right now. :(

[ It is Friday right? :) ]

-- 
Carey Matthew Black
BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Axton  wrote:
> ** I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the clients.  But
> that was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that right; the
> cobwebs are getting thick).
>
> Axton
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf 
> wrote:
>>
>> Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client or
>> even Big Boned Client? :)
>>
>> Tauf Chowdhury

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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Axton]

I've used thick client/thin client to differentiate the clients.  But that
was back in the days of arweb/remedy web (did I get that right; the cobwebs
are getting thick).

Axton

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Chowdhury, Tauf wrote:

> Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client or
> even Big Boned Client? :)
>
> Tauf Chowdhury
> Analyst, Service Management
> Office: 631.858.7765
> Mobile:646.483.2779
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:34 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>
> I expect most of the folks who don't move up to 7.5 will have to refer to
> the Admin Tool as the "True Windows Administration Tool" to differentiate it
> from the "Developer Studio."
>
> I couldn't resist
>
> Jennifer Meyer
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:27 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>
> In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use "WAT" for Windows
> Administration Tool.  Now that it's called "Developer Studio", that acronym
> will most likely fade away.
>
>
> -David J. Easter
> Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
> BMC Software, Inc.
>
> The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
> this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
> voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
> spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
> Inc.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>
> Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.
>
> Jennifer Meyer
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
>
> Jennifer,
>
> The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.  WUT
> is actually an old name that has been around for a long time.  Probably was
> used much more in the past than fat/thin client.
> --Original Message--
> From: Meyer, Jennifer L
> To: Arslist
> ReplyTo: Arslist
> Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
> Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM
>
> ** I've suddenly realized that "WUT" stands for "windows user tool."  When
> did we stop saying "fat client" and "thin client" or "mid tier?"
>
> Are "fat" and ""thin" outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or
> simply offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone please
> answer definitively, because "WUT" threw me for a loop for a couple of
> weeks, and I felt really dumb.
>
> I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
>
> Jennifer Meyer
> Remedy Technical Support Specialist
> State of North Carolina
> Office Of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division ITSM &
> ITAM Services
> Office: 919-754-6543
> ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
> jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov
> http://its.state.nc.us
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Pat Zandi]

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tonight...


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On Apr 16, 2009, at 5:40 PM, "Chowdhury, Tauf"  
 wrote:


Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly  
Client or even Big Boned Client? :)


Tauf Chowdhury
Analyst, Service Management
Office: 631.858.7765
Mobile:646.483.2779




-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:34 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

I expect most of the folks who don't move up to 7.5 will have to  
refer to the Admin Tool as the "True Windows Administration Tool" to  
differentiate it from the "Developer Studio."


I couldn't resist

Jennifer Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
] On Behalf Of Easter, David

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:27 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use "WAT" for Windows  
Administration Tool.  Now that it's called "Developer Studio", that  
acronym will most likely fade away.



-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
BMC Software, Inc.

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] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym  
before.


Jennifer Meyer

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
] On Behalf Of Shellman, David

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the  
years.  WUT is actually an old name that has been around for a long  
time.  Probably was used much more in the past than fat/thin client.

--Original Message------
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that "WUT" stands for "windows user  
tool."  When did we stop saying "fat client" and "thin client" or  
"mid tier?"


Are "fat" and ""thin" outmoded with today's networking capabilities,  
or simply offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?   
Someone please answer definitively, because "WUT" threw me for a  
loop for a couple of weeks, and I felt really dumb.


I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.

Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division  
ITSM & ITAM Services

Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Shyman, Jonathan]

...and sometimes you have to call a tool a tool, which is what it is after all. 

I believe FAT is actually an acronym that stands for Finally Approved Testing 
and it was used to denote the first windows version of any program that 
actually ran without causing a fatal exception.

...and I've got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. Cheap!

:)

--- J.T. Shyman
 
 -Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:49 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Sometimes you just gotta call a cow a cow... 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Chowdhury, Tauf
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:41 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client or
even Big Boned Client? :)

Tauf Chowdhury
Analyst, Service Management
Office: 631.858.7765
Mobile:646.483.2779

 


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:34 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

I expect most of the folks who don't move up to 7.5 will have to refer to
the Admin Tool as the "True Windows Administration Tool" to differentiate it
from the "Developer Studio."

I couldn't resist

Jennifer Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:27 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use "WAT" for Windows
Administration Tool.  Now that it's called "Developer Studio", that acronym
will most likely fade away.

 
-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development BMC Software, Inc.
 
The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
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Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.

Jennifer Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.  WUT
is actually an old name that has been around for a long time.  Probably was
used much more in the past than fat/thin client.
--Original Message------
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that "WUT" stands for "windows user tool."  When
did we stop saying "fat client" and "thin client" or "mid tier?"
 
Are "fat" and ""thin" outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or
simply offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone please
answer definitively, because "WUT" threw me for a loop for a couple of
weeks, and I felt really dumb.
 
I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division ITSM &
ITAM Services
Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[LJ Longwing]

Sometimes you just gotta call a cow a cow... 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Chowdhury, Tauf
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:41 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client or
even Big Boned Client? :)

Tauf Chowdhury
Analyst, Service Management
Office: 631.858.7765
Mobile:646.483.2779

 


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:34 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

I expect most of the folks who don't move up to 7.5 will have to refer to
the Admin Tool as the "True Windows Administration Tool" to differentiate it
from the "Developer Studio."

I couldn't resist

Jennifer Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:27 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use "WAT" for Windows
Administration Tool.  Now that it's called "Developer Studio", that acronym
will most likely fade away.

 
-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development BMC Software, Inc.
 
The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.

Jennifer Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.  WUT
is actually an old name that has been around for a long time.  Probably was
used much more in the past than fat/thin client.
--Original Message--
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that "WUT" stands for "windows user tool."  When
did we stop saying "fat client" and "thin client" or "mid tier?"
 
Are "fat" and ""thin" outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or
simply offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone please
answer definitively, because "WUT" threw me for a loop for a couple of
weeks, and I felt really dumb.
 
I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division ITSM &
ITAM Services
Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov
http://its.state.nc.us
 
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Chowdhury, Tauf]

Why is it FAT client? Why couldn't it be Chubby Client or Portly Client or even 
Big Boned Client? :)

Tauf Chowdhury 
Analyst, Service Management
Office: 631.858.7765
Mobile:646.483.2779

 


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:34 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

I expect most of the folks who don't move up to 7.5 will have to refer to the 
Admin Tool as the "True Windows Administration Tool" to differentiate it from 
the "Developer Studio."

I couldn't resist

Jennifer Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:27 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use "WAT" for Windows 
Administration Tool.  Now that it's called "Developer Studio", that acronym 
will most likely fade away.

 
-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
BMC Software, Inc.
 
The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.

Jennifer Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.  WUT is 
actually an old name that has been around for a long time.  Probably was used 
much more in the past than fat/thin client.
--Original Message--
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that "WUT" stands for "windows user tool."  When did 
we stop saying "fat client" and "thin client" or "mid tier?"
 
Are "fat" and ""thin" outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or simply 
offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone please answer 
definitively, because "WUT" threw me for a loop for a couple of weeks, and I 
felt really dumb.
 
I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division ITSM & ITAM 
Services
Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov
http://its.state.nc.us
 
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Meyer, Jennifer L]

I expect most of the folks who don't move up to 7.5 will have to refer to the 
Admin Tool as the "True Windows Administration Tool" to differentiate it from 
the "Developer Studio."

I couldn't resist

Jennifer Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:27 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use "WAT" for Windows 
Administration Tool.  Now that it's called "Developer Studio", that acronym 
will most likely fade away.

 
-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
BMC Software, Inc.
 
The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.

Jennifer Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.  WUT is 
actually an old name that has been around for a long time.  Probably was used 
much more in the past than fat/thin client.
--Original Message--
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that "WUT" stands for "windows user tool."  When did 
we stop saying "fat client" and "thin client" or "mid tier?"
 
Are "fat" and ""thin" outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or simply 
offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone please answer 
definitively, because "WUT" threw me for a loop for a couple of weeks, and I 
felt really dumb.
 
I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division ITSM & ITAM 
Services
Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Easter, David]

In case you run into it, you'll also see folks use "WAT" for Windows 
Administration Tool.  Now that it's called "Developer Studio", that acronym 
will most likely fade away.

 
-David J. Easter
Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
BMC Software, Inc.
 
The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
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participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.

Jennifer Meyer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.  WUT is 
actually an old name that has been around for a long time.  Probably was used 
much more in the past than fat/thin client.
--Original Message--
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that "WUT" stands for "windows user tool."  When did 
we stop saying "fat client" and "thin client" or "mid tier?"
 
Are "fat" and ""thin" outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or simply 
offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone please answer 
definitively, because "WUT" threw me for a loop for a couple of weeks, and I 
felt really dumb.
 
I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division ITSM & ITAM 
Services
Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov
http://its.state.nc.us
 
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Meyer, Jennifer L]

Thanks, David.  It appears I just hadn't run across the acronym before.

Jennifer Meyer

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Shellman, David
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.  WUT is 
actually an old name that has been around for a long time.  Probably was used 
much more in the past than fat/thin client.
--Original Message--
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I've suddenly realized that "WUT" stands for "windows user tool."  When did 
we stop saying "fat client" and "thin client" or "mid tier?"
 
Are "fat" and ""thin" outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or simply 
offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone please answer 
definitively, because "WUT" threw me for a loop for a couple of weeks, and I 
felt really dumb.
 
I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services
Service Delivery Division
ITSM & ITAM Services
Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov
http://its.state.nc.us
 
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Shellman, David]

Jennifer,

The desktop client has been referred to by many names over the years.  WUT is 
actually an old name that has been around for a long time.  Probably was used 
much more in the past than fat/thin client.
--Original Message--
From: Meyer, Jennifer L
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?
Sent: Apr 16, 2009 4:53 PM

** I’ve suddenly realized that “WUT” stands for “windows user tool.”  When did 
we stop saying “fat client” and “thin client” or “mid tier?”
 
Are “fat” and “”thin” outmoded with today’s networking capabilities, or simply 
offensive with today’s caloric-challenged society?  Someone please answer 
definitively, because “WUT” threw me for a loop for a couple of weeks, and I 
felt really dumb.
 
I’m seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.
 
Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office Of Information Technology Services
Service Delivery Division
ITSM & ITAM Services
Office: 919-754-6543
ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000
jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov
http://its.state.nc.us
 
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Re: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[LJ Longwing]

I'm not sure if the user tool was ever actually named the 'fat client' by
the vendor...that has always just been a reference to its footprint on the
client, vs the thin footprint of the web client...I typically use the term
'native client' when referring to the wut and web client when referring to
the Mid-Tier...but that's just me...:)

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:54 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?


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I've suddenly realized that "WUT" stands for "windows user tool."  When did
we stop saying "fat client" and "thin client" or "mid tier?"

 

Are "fat" and ""thin" outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or
simply offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone please
answer definitively, because "WUT" threw me for a loop for a couple of
weeks, and I felt really dumb.

 

I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.

 

Jennifer Meyer

Remedy Technical Support Specialist

State of North Carolina

Office Of Information Technology Services

Service Delivery Division

ITSM & ITAM Services

Office: 919-754-6543

ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000

jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov

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Etiquette Question: Is Fat Client offensive?

[Meyer, Jennifer L]

I've suddenly realized that "WUT" stands for "windows user tool."  When did we 
stop saying "fat client" and "thin client" or "mid tier?"

Are "fat" and ""thin" outmoded with today's networking capabilities, or simply 
offensive with today's caloric-challenged society?  Someone please answer 
definitively, because "WUT" threw me for a loop for a couple of weeks, and I 
felt really dumb.

I'm seriously confused at the loss of the fat client.


Jennifer Meyer

Remedy Technical Support Specialist

State of North Carolina

Office Of Information Technology Services

Service Delivery Division

ITSM & ITAM Services

Office: 919-754-6543

ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000

jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov

http://its.state.nc.us



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