[AsburyPark] Re: Eminent Domain
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Maureen, What's your view on the City announcing that the Springwood Avenue Redevelopment will include the power Eminent Domain? Where are you on this Rev Kev? I am against the forced taking of any privately owned property. That is inhabitable, paid up in taxes and not in such disrepair as to be considered unsafe. I am against it's application for naked transfer of private owner to private owner. If government uses it for a developer's financial gain they should be hung in the public square. Rev Kev Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Eminent Domain
Whenever a municipality designates an Area in Need of Redevelopment it has the power, under redevelopment law in the State of New Jersey, to use eminent domain. Currently, state law gives the municipality the authority to take private property to implement a redevelopment plan in those Ares in Need of Redevelopment. Governing bodies can choose not to use the power. In an effort to explain what eminent domain abuse is, according to the Public Advocate, the current laws: allow for use of eminent domain in areas that do not meet the constitutional requirement of a blighted area; require little meaningful notice to affected tenants and property owners; offer few opportunities for real public participation; provide little meaningful opportunity to appeal the designation of blight to an impartial third party; allow for vague redevelopment plans that are not developed in conjunction with the community and can be unlimited in their duration; permit compensation for taken property that is so low that it does not allow a homeowner to ever own a home in their town again; do not require sufficient relocation planning, and are governed by ethics rules not strong enough to engender confidence in the redevelopment process. In Asbury Park, it's clear that when people heard the word redevelopment they got very excited and looked forward to their neighborhood coming back, tourists coming in, investments being made. Unfortunately, the reality of redevelopment may actually be to wipe out entire neighborhoods and force current residents and businesses out. All without just compensation. I know of one woman who was given an apraisal for a multifamily house a few blocks from the ocean that will not cover the cost of one half of a studio apartment in the condos being built on the waterfront. That's beyond not fair. It's government sponsoring the taking of private property and giving it to another private party at bargain basement prices. The intention of eminent domain was to allow for the government to take private property for the public good, such as in building schools, roads, hospitals, etc. and offering just compensation. Eminent domain has it's place. Eminent domain abuse needs to stop. Kerry Margaret Butch - Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.
Re: [AsburyPark] In case asbury radio did not see
I posted this message and it may have been missed. I saw that Maureen questioned the Madison Marquette story in the press. I too have a question about one of her stories that was focused on how the police handled their investigation. I also noticed that the Note part was signed City Historian. Do we have a City Historian again? - Original Message From: Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2006 8:01:02 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Again it said the deal still had to be finilized so I belive it was covered. Question, when you reported the Werner story did you call the police for their side? I see to recall his lies to the police were omitted from your posting. Did you fail to make that confirmation or just slect reporting? - Original Message From: radio881gal restore881FM@ aol.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2006 9:19:13 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette I repeat: Where is the confirmation from Madison Marquette? A reporter Not yielding to pressure from city hall would call MM to finish out the story. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ ... wrote: The article said: I expect that the deal between Madison Marquette and Asbury Partners will be finalized in the next 40 days, and we expect to bring that agreement to the city in that time frame, Larry Fishman, chief operating officer of Asbury Partners, said on Wednesday. - Original Message From: radio881gal restore881FM@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, December 1, 2006 9:34:09 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Madison Marquette Shields wrote her article today about Madison Marquette coming on board without the benefit of having covered the Planning Board meeting this week, during which Fishman told the board the MM deal was still 35 - 45 days out. I'm still trying to figure out how in the world she could write a report about an outfit ready to pump $150 million into a waterfront redevelopment, in a down market, and not get a comment from them - not even a no-comment from them. Fishman and Bruno she quotes. Hmm, would they have any reason to want to say MM is onboard? Hmm, can you think of just one? And they call it reporting... Maureen Nevin Asbury Radio _ _ _ _ _ _ __ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusines s.yahoo.com/ r-index Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
[AsburyPark] Re: Eminent Domain
Kerry the question raised is whether you are in favor of using it on Springwood Avenue, and what your view is of a particular councilman who attends anti-ED rallies, called this summer for a state-wide halt to all ED, yet he wrote a plan for Springwood Avenue that allows for it to be used to take from a private owner and given to a private developer. What say you about those issues? And you to Rev Kev. You didn't address them either. I'm not looking for a lesson on what E.D. is or isn't. I'm well aware of it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, kerry butch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whenever a municipality designates an Area in Need of Redevelopment it has the power, under redevelopment law in the State of New Jersey, to use eminent domain. Currently, state law gives the municipality the authority to take private property to implement a redevelopment plan in those Ares in Need of Redevelopment. Governing bodies can choose not to use the power. In an effort to explain what eminent domain abuse is, according to the Public Advocate, the current laws: allow for use of eminent domain in areas that do not meet the constitutional requirement of a `blighted area'; require little meaningful notice to affected tenants and property owners; offer few opportunities for real public participation; provide little meaningful opportunity to appeal the designation of blight to an impartial third party; allow for vague redevelopment plans that are not developed in conjunction with the community and can be unlimited in their duration; permit compensation for taken property that is so low that it does not allow a homeowner to ever own a home in their town again; do not require sufficient relocation planning, and are governed by ethics rules not strong enough to engender confidence in the redevelopment process. In Asbury Park, it's clear that when people heard the word redevelopment they got very excited and looked forward to their neighborhood coming back, tourists coming in, investments being made. Unfortunately, the reality of redevelopment may actually be to wipe out entire neighborhoods and force current residents and businesses out. All without just compensation. I know of one woman who was given an apraisal for a multifamily house a few blocks from the ocean that will not cover the cost of one half of a studio apartment in the condos being built on the waterfront. That's beyond not fair. It's government sponsoring the taking of private property and giving it to another private party at bargain basement prices. The intention of eminent domain was to allow for the government to take private property for the public good, such as in building schools, roads, hospitals, etc. and offering just compensation. Eminent domain has it's place. Eminent domain abuse needs to stop. Kerry Margaret Butch - Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: In case asbury radio did not see
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted this message and it may have been missed. I saw that Maureen questioned the Madison Marquette story in the press. I too have a question about one of her stories that was focused on how the police handled their investigation. I also noticed that the Note part was signed City Historian. Do we have a City Historian again? I suspect that she will answer you when she gets ready to. But why she would even answer someone who is so obviously biased against her, called her radiohead, etc., is beyond me. A pure waste of time. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Eminent Domain
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kerry the question raised is whether you are in favor of using it on Springwood Avenue, and what your view is of a particular councilman who attends anti-ED rallies, called this summer for a state-wide halt to all ED, yet he wrote a plan for Springwood Avenue that allows for it to be used to take from a private owner and given to a private developer. Be careful Tom. Are you sure Keady wrote it? Nice to see you and the missus Sat. Why don't we you guys just cut this short and just tar and feather him and run him out of town on a rail? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: In case asbury radio did not see
We are all allowed to our opinions. She may or may not answer. My guess she did not receive an answer to her post on here from the Asbury Park Press. In fact it I found it very unprofessional. Since both are reporting Asbury news I think you should rely on what is done well instead of taking shots. Also I doubt Nancy from the press reads this board so it was a cheap shot. And you wonder why I am bias? - Original Message From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 4, 2006 11:48:31 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: In case asbury radio did not see --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ ... wrote: I posted this message and it may have been missed. I saw that Maureen questioned the Madison Marquette story in the press. I too have a question about one of her stories that was focused on how the police handled their investigation. I also noticed that the Note part was signed City Historian. Do we have a City Historian again? I suspect that she will answer you when she gets ready to. But why she would even answer someone who is so obviously biased against her, called her radiohead, etc., is beyond me. A pure waste of time. Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
[AsburyPark] Re: In case asbury radio did not see
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are all allowed to our opinions. She may or may not answer. My guess she did not receive an answer to her post on here from the Asbury Park Press. In fact it I found it very unprofessional. Since both are reporting Asbury news I think you should rely on what is done well instead of taking shots. Also I doubt Nancy from the press reads this board so it was a cheap shot. And you wonder why I am bias? You are allowed your opinion, even as biased as it is. I merly suggested why Maureen would answer you since you have seen fit to call her names, belittle her show and efforts, etc. Nancy has read this forum in the past. Now putting aside it all, whether biased or not. Ask yourself, who has asked more hard questions about this redevelopment, Nancy or Maureen? I have given Nacy plenty of facts previously, but don't any longer since she has made it clear that she is nothing but a cheerleader for Partners. As I have said before, you can find her in the vestibule with Fishman before any council meeting dealing with redevelopment issues. An interview. What I think got Maureen's goat is that we all have been waiting for confirmation of Madison Marquette's committment. Just days before Partners went before the planning board and still said there was nothing final. Nancy was not there. The planning board and the city are not exactly happy about what Partners has to say about HoJo's restoration. Some negative but truthful press about that. Lo and behold, a few days later some positive spin on the issue. Madison Marquette (so Nancy reports) is going to invest $150 million. That's great news that I and others welcome, but where did it come from? Madison Marquette still won't comment. I bet it came from Larry. A reporter should have confirmed it with Madison Marquette or made it clear what the source was. You still don't get it do you? I hope it's true. Perhaps if more people in this city stopped fighting those who have continually asked the hard questions about this redevelopment and joined in we'd be a lot further along on the waterfront by now. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Eminent Domain
On Dec 4, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Kevin Brown wrote: I am against the forced taking of any privately owned property. That is inhabitable, paid up in taxes and not in such disrepair as to be considered unsafe. That's the way I feel too. As long as the building or property is currently being used I do not think emminent domain should be allowed to take it. If there are problems with the property such as repairs badly needed, I think the town should give the property owner a set amount of time to fix the problems or risk losing their property. There are so many buildings in places like Asbury Park which have been abandoned for decades. Those are the places that emminent domain should take if the owner refuses to do anything with the property within a set period of time. It's abandoned buildings that really bring down the look of the area. Upstage Magazine - New Jersey's Premier Arts Entertainment Magazine PO Box 140, Spring Lake, NJ 07762(732) 280-3305 http://www.UpstageMagazine.com
[AsburyPark] Re: Eminent Domain
I agree completely --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 4, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Kevin Brown wrote: I am against the forced taking of any privately owned property. That is inhabitable, paid up in taxes and not in such disrepair as to be considered unsafe. That's the way I feel too. As long as the building or property is currently being used I do not think emminent domain should be allowed to take it. If there are problems with the property such as repairs badly needed, I think the town should give the property owner a set amount of time to fix the problems or risk losing their property. There are so many buildings in places like Asbury Park which have been abandoned for decades. Those are the places that emminent domain should take if the owner refuses to do anything with the property within a set period of time. It's abandoned buildings that really bring down the look of the area. Upstage Magazine - New Jersey's Premier Arts Entertainment Magazine PO Box 140, Spring Lake, NJ 07762(732) 280-3305 http://www.UpstageMagazine.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] A recent OP/ED I had published in the TriCity News
Dear Constituents, Below is an Op/Ed of mine that was published on Thursday in the TriCity News. It is a response to Mr. Jacobsens recent piece about me titled, Idealist Becomes the Demagogue. I have posted it on my blog at www.keadyreport.blogspot.com and I welcome comments there. Peace, James W. Keady Councilman, City of Asbury Park, NJ GET THE FACTS BEFORE YOU WRITE By Councilman James W. Keady In the November 16th issue of the TriCity News, TCN Publisher, Dan Jacobson authored a story titled, Idealist Becomes the Demagogue, commenting on an event that took place at the November 13th Asbury Park City Council Meeting. He called me a slew of nasty names and leveled some serious charges against me. What he failed to tell his readers is that he was not in attendance at the Council meeting in question. In fact, all of Mr. Jacobsons information from that evening came from secondhand sources. Unfortunately, I am not surprised by this because Mr. Jacobson rarely attends City Council meetings and he usually reports the majority of his news from secondhand sources. Ok, so Dan could not make it to the meeting. He heard about what happened and thought it worthy to write about. Given this, did he do what any fair-minded journalist would do and reach out to me to confirm his facts or to seek comment or clarification from me on what he was reporting? No. What Mr. Jacobson did was print false information and extrapolated his lengthy opinion from it, misinforming and misleading his readership in the process. When I read the article, I called Dan and asked him why he did not reach out to me to confirm that he had the facts correct given that he was not at the meeting. And he said: My deadline was too tight for me to call you. His deadline was too tight for him to call me. Let me give TCN readers a little background here. Dan Jacobson and I have a fairly good rapport with each other and we have an ongoing dialogue on a range of local and national political issues. He has my home phone number, my cell phone number, and my work phone number, all of which he has used in the past to call me about stories he is working on. Dans office is about 50 feet from mine same building, same floor - and he stops by our office regularly. And if I do not see Dan in the office, one of his favorite hang out spots is directly across the street from my home. Despite all this access and the fact that Dan was writing a story that was focused on me and my statements at a City Council meeting, he never said a word to me. Now, do I expect Dan Jacobson or anyone for that matter to agree with everything I say or do in my role as a Councilman in Asbury Park? Certainly not, but what I do hope for is simple fairness and accuracy in reporting. What would have been fair in this situation would have been for Dan to call me and ask me direct questions about what transpired at the November 13, 2006 City Council meeting. Here are my thoughts on how such a phone call might have gone. BEGIN INTERVIEW DJ: JIM, WHAT EXACTLY DID YOU PROPOSE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING THE WEST SIDE COMMUNITY CENTER? During the public portion of the meeting, a significant number of residents and community leaders shared their frustrations about the violence in our streets and its impact on our young people. To combat this problem, they asked for the City Council to offer greater support to the West Side Community Center. In light of the issues they raised, I put a motion on the floor requesting that the governing body earmark $100,000 in funding from our Community Development and Affordable Housing Fund that could be made available for infrastructure upgrades and programming at the West Side Community Center. I also stated that in order for this money to be released, the West Side Community Center would submit proposals to the City Council on how the money would be used. The governing body would subsequently vote on which proposals they would like to support. Again, to be clear, I was not saying the money should go to the West Side Community Center that night. I requested a firm and measurable commitment of resources on the part of the City and a process by which those resources could be allocated. I was unable to garner a second for this motion. DJ: DID YOU TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE WITH ANY OF YOUR FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? There has been the charge that I blindsided my colleagues with my request, that I had never discussed this issue before. On October 18, 2006, the day that Tylik Pugh was shot, I discussed earmarking $250,000 in funds from the Community Development and Affordable Housing Fund for community programs with both the City Manager and the Mayor. My proposal was similar to the one I made on Monday night, that the funds would be set aside and that community organizations like the West Side Community Center, the Boys and Girls Club, the Salvation
[AsburyPark] Re: In case asbury radio did not see
I heard that Madison Marquette was at the council meeting where Partners presented their HOJO plan...albeit in cognito. Can anyone confirm??? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote: We are all allowed to our opinions. She may or may not answer. My guess she did not receive an answer to her post on here from the Asbury Park Press. In fact it I found it very unprofessional. Since both are reporting Asbury news I think you should rely on what is done well instead of taking shots. Also I doubt Nancy from the press reads this board so it was a cheap shot. And you wonder why I am bias? You are allowed your opinion, even as biased as it is. I merly suggested why Maureen would answer you since you have seen fit to call her names, belittle her show and efforts, etc. Nancy has read this forum in the past. Now putting aside it all, whether biased or not. Ask yourself, who has asked more hard questions about this redevelopment, Nancy or Maureen? I have given Nacy plenty of facts previously, but don't any longer since she has made it clear that she is nothing but a cheerleader for Partners. As I have said before, you can find her in the vestibule with Fishman before any council meeting dealing with redevelopment issues. An interview. What I think got Maureen's goat is that we all have been waiting for confirmation of Madison Marquette's committment. Just days before Partners went before the planning board and still said there was nothing final. Nancy was not there. The planning board and the city are not exactly happy about what Partners has to say about HoJo's restoration. Some negative but truthful press about that. Lo and behold, a few days later some positive spin on the issue. Madison Marquette (so Nancy reports) is going to invest $150 million. That's great news that I and others welcome, but where did it come from? Madison Marquette still won't comment. I bet it came from Larry. A reporter should have confirmed it with Madison Marquette or made it clear what the source was. You still don't get it do you? I hope it's true. Perhaps if more people in this city stopped fighting those who have continually asked the hard questions about this redevelopment and joined in we'd be a lot further along on the waterfront by now. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Eminent Domain
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be careful Tom. Are you sure Keady wrote it? He is the Chair of the Committee that wrote it. He owns it unless he comes out and disavows it or at least that part of if. Nice to see you and the missus Sat. Likewise. How did you get that Angelic women to marry you? ;-) Why don't we you guys just cut this short and just tar and feather him [Keady] and run him out of town on a rail? Don't make any assumptions, friend. Remember my first post about Keady and E.D. said I'm not offering an opinion right now. My second post said if he has an opinion closer to mine, I'll compliment him. Just to give a bigger hint, I'm waiting and hoping for the opportunity to compliment him. I just need him to clarify his position. Right now he has me confused - In June he calls for a statewide halt to E.D. but now he authors a plan that allows it. I honestly don't know where he stands and I don't think anyone else does either. It could be that I'm wrong about what his position was in June with respect to E.D. (from private owner to private owner). Or, maybe his postion is changed, which is no sin. Reagan started as a Democrat. If JK's postion has changed he should be OK with saying so. If it changed and it is more like mine, I'll be happy to compliment him. I promise I will. I don't want him tarred, feathered or run out of town. I like him as a person (who wouldn't?) and I'm very fond of Ms. Keady too. I just have some policy differences with him. My policy differences with him get highlighted more than others because I'm charged by the newspaper with writing about AP politics, and it looks worse because I'm an opinion columnist, not a news reporter. That just makes it seem like I'm more jazzed about issues than others, when in fact a curory reading of this board shows that I'm far from being the most worked-up about AP stuff around here. Having to write a column has certainly strained my relationship with him, but that's a price anyone pays for disagreeing. I wish it wasn't that way, but it is. I don't see you breaking bread with Jimmy Bruno. You've said 100 times you have nothing personal against the guy, but the more you speak out against his politics, the more you open yourself to a charge that you are just out to get him. It's unavoidable that people will make that charge against you, no matter how untrue it is. The same goes for me and JK. I wish it wasn't the case, but I can't do anything about it. Maybe JK will clarify his E.D. position by answering the questions AsburyCouple posed. He owes them an answer far more than he owes me. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Eminent Domain
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Likewise. How did you get that Angelic women to marry you? ;-) When I was 17 I made Mel Gibson look like Bruno. Just shows you what hard work does to a guy. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady on Emenant Domain
Once again I will state my position: I am against the use of eminent domain for private gain. It was allowed in both the NJ and US Constitutions for public use. If government needs property for government purposes than eminent domain is a tool. Once used, just and fair compensation must be tended to the original owner. Just comp to me is, exactly what I have elswhere. It should be incumbent upon the benfactor (government) to relocate me and or my buildings to suitable and equal lands. If these lands are less valuable then the lands I am on, then I should recieve the difference in dollars. No where should a government look to build a public building, owned and operated by the government in a location of maximum value. A court house or jail should never be in a prime location. These buildings actually should be in depressed locations, so that they would rehabilitate the depression by the governmental building. I would not allow, ever, eminent domain, for the gain of an entity other than government. Redevelopers shoul dhave never been allowed to access government and convince elected officials to use their powers to eminent domain property for private companies. Kelo v. New London was wrong, and it should be reversed. I expect it will be reversed at the next case before it. As for elected officials needing more tax revenue, and allowing that need as a public use. That's like telling me to go to the all you can eat buffet evey day and eat until I drop and that i wouldn't ever have to concern myself with the health of my body. I suspect the reason why government likes this option is because they have no intention to roll back spending. It is easier for them to tick off 25 households in an area like MTOTSA, Long Branch, where they loose 25 - 40 votes at the next election, then it would be if they raised the taxes of 14,000 registered voters 25%. Because they would not get relected if they passed their spending habits along the broad and established tax base that exists presently. REMEDY: For the 11 th district, Vote for me for State Senate in November 2007. Vote only for those candidates that agree that spending needs to drop. See it's very simple. Stop spending. Roll back waste and eliminate corruption. Otherwise we will be building out our coast and destroying the delicate balance of of ocean front again. It took us many years to get our waters clean. They are now threatened by over population. All because eminent domain is being allowed in mass development projects in the State. Kevin Brown --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not going to comment on this because I don't want to be seen as being hard on the Councilman. I'm just going to post these facts and ask all of you to comment on it. Particularly you, Kevin Brown. This from the Coaster, 06/28/06: New Jersey should enact a moratorium on eminent domain, Asbury Park City Councilman James Keady said at a rally held at city hall on Friday. Keady said in Asbury Park the city council must have the courage to stand up to Larry Fishman, the chief executive officer of Asbury Partners, the city's redeveloper, and tell him won't allow him to take residents property from them against their will. Very generally, no properties should be taken against the will of the owners, Keady said. This from Life Net News, 6/28/06: Two City councilmen, Ed Johnson and Jim Keady, are outspoken critics of the use of eminent domain and refuse to vote to take property unless the owners request it. Both of the local representatives believe that redevelopment can occur without eminent domain. Redevelopment should help the homeowners and the businesses that are in an area that's considered blighted, said Keady. It shouldn't run them out of that area. Last night, the Springwood Avenue Redevelopment Proposal was introduced. The Chairman of the Committee that wrote it is Jim Keady. From today's Asbury Park Press: The city could use its power of eminent domain to acquire all properties in the area for development. Please tell me what you think. Tommy. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] what kind of reverend preaches this kinda hate? a fake one maybe?
If government uses it for a developer's financial gain they should be hung in the public square. Rev Kev This is a guy that also told he i would end up in a cement mixer if i kept giving my opinions here... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Eminent Domain
Seems to me that the clearest perspective on this issue came from NJ Dave who clearly has no ax to grind: On 12/3/2006 at 3:07:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eminent and Domain aren't dirty words, but become so when followed by the word 'Abuse'. What constitutes abuse?
[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette
Is it news if it's unsubstantiated? Today's editorial also discussed this $150 million coming from Madison Marquette, but no reference to any confirmation from the company. It's just standard procedure to call the principals. Maureen Nevin Asbury Radio -The Radio Voice of Asbury Park 88.1FM - 6 Years on the Air!! Asbury's Own Live Talk Showmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 601 Bangs Avenue Listen 8 - 10 PM Thursdays on 88.1FM or Listen Live or Later on the Web http://www.asburyradio.com/ Call the show 732-775-0821 Call me 732-774-0779 fax 502-0463 Speak up - It's America!!
[AsburyPark] Re: Eminent Domain
Tommy - I'm not familiar with all the properties in this district, the status of the ownership, etc. But in general, as a layman, I don't understand why it's necessary to announce this intention upfront. Doesn't a government body always have the option to resort to eminent domain if the situation warrants it? This trumpeting has been used in the past ass the first step in a process that usually strips landowners of their normal rights and access to current market values for their land. Maureen --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Maureen, What's your view on the City announcing that the Springwood Avenue Redevelopment will include the power Eminent Domain? Where are you on this Rev Kev? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette
What report on Werner? I didn't write one. Maureen Nevin Asbury Radio -The Radio Voice of Asbury Park 88.1FM - 6 Years on the Air!! Asbury's Own Live Talk Showmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 601 Bangs Avenue Listen 8 - 10 PM Thursdays on 88.1FM or Listen Live or Later on the Web http://www.asburyradio.com/ Call the show 732-775-0821 Call me 732-774-0779 fax 502-0463 Speak up - It's America!!
