[AsburyPark] Re: The Park...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Remember AP once was going to build a minor leauge stadium... Going to build. The operative words. I kind of recall the arguments against it who would come what if it didn't work why the ocean front (the wind, the rain etc...) the traffic waste of space Wasn't it supposed to be around the empress? Tom? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Client's vision for a NY pier
http://curbed.com/archives/2008/11/20/bids_for_hudson_river_park_tourist_trap_unveiled_again.php#more Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Client's vision for a NY pier
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://curbed.com/archives/2008/11/20/bids_for_hudson_river_park_tourist _trap_unveiled_again.php#more Vison AND money AND track record = a real developer. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] $10,000 today is what in 5 years if....
a) invested in a condo in AP b) invested in Ford stock c) disney stock Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] The Law,....
1) E-harmony sued so they HAVE to promote Gay match/date making. How does this impact other sites and/or businesses? 2. In court today with my kid. forgot to get her provisonal lic switched over to 18 year old.. They cut out to Freehold closed circuit to talk to prisoners. This one was in jail for NOT paying her pervious fine of about $500... a) SHE recevied a CREDIT of $50/day for BEING IN jail . She got 8 days at $50/day = $400 CREDITED to her fine. Forget that fact that it costs the taxpayers to house the immate, let alone give them CREDIT for being IN jail. Wasn't there some point where the immate was to reimburse for the costs of the hotel? The system. Why send people back for immigration when many (not all cases in WLB) were here for having no registration, insurance, nj licensce etc etc . and were paying their fines and rushing back to WORK. People should really not bitch about being an American and having all the rights they do here. One guy in there did a flooring job for me. Good guy, works hard and I knew it took him twice to get to America because he WANTED to work. Everyone chuckled at his kansas driver's license... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: $10,000 today is what in 5 years if....
What about Sirius XM, currently at a whopping 15 cents a share? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a) invested in a condo in AP b) invested in Ford stock c) disney stock Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Plan B, the bakery
Restaurant Plan B is now selling our home baked goods. Please allow at least 24 hours on most orders. www.restaurantplanb.com Plan B The Bakery 705 Cookman Ave Asbury Park, NJ 07712 732-807-4710 Cakes Pumpkin Bourbon Cheesecake 28.00 Triple Chocolate Cake 25.00 Chocolate cake, chocolate mousse filling, chocolate butter cream and cream cheese frosting Coconut Cake30.00 Plain Cheesecake22.00 Red Velvet Cake 25.00 Cream cheese frosting Gingerbread Cake25.00 Caramel buttercream Tres Leches Cake25.00 Three milk cake Strawberry Bread Cake 28.00 Pies, Tarts, Desserts Pumpkin Pie12.00 Key Lime Pie 14.00 Apple Pie 15.00 Peanut Butter Tart 25.00 Cinnamon crust Mexican Chocolate Tart 25.00 Cinnamon Spiced Pecans Decadent Chocolate Bread Pudding 45.00 Occasion Cakes price upon request Erotic Cakesprice upon request Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) E-harmony sued so they HAVE to promote Gay match/date making. I saw that. That's really awful. So businesses are not allowed to offer services to niche markets anymore? Jdate is a Jewish dating service. Should the government sue them for being discriminatory like they did eHarmony? eHarmony also got sued by a guy who complained that eHarmony would not find him a date even though he was still married. Well - I'm off to the vegan restaurant to insist they cook me a cheeseburger. Or I'll sue. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: $10,000 today is what in 5 years if....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about Sirius XM, currently at a whopping 15 cents a share? I still get AM on free sirius capable radio that came with the car and the kids loaded it up with music from their ipods, which plug right in... a fancy radio. When I was 17, that catalina had am/fm and speakers in the read window... fund if you want to go to e-street or christian or grateful dead... And bench seats. You can put that .50 you save from the AP meters and buy it for the fun of it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: $10,000 today is what in 5 years if....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about Sirius XM, currently at a whopping 15 cents a share? I still get AM on free sirius capable radio that came with the car and the kids loaded it up with music from their ipods, which plug right in... a fancy radio. When I was 17, that catalina had am/fm and speakers in the read window... fund if you want to go to e-street or christian or grateful dead... And bench seats. You can put that .50 you save from the AP meters and buy it for the fun of it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw that. That's really awful. Well - I'm off to the vegan restaurant to insist they cook me a cheeseburger. Or I'll sue. Thanks. that's the way I see it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] $500,000 price reduction!!
Again. 704-720 Mattison Ave. 30,000 sq ft new price $2,999,000 That's $100 sq ft. unique investor opportunity in the redevelopment of Asbury Park... Tremendous Potential Multi uses Taxes: $14k Gas: $21k Ins:$25k Water/sewer:$2k Electric: $20k And no parking Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
Really awful? Really? Awful? On Nov 20, 2008, at 2:27 PM, oakdorf wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw that. That's really awful. Well - I'm off to the vegan restaurant to insist they cook me a cheeseburger. Or I'll sue. Thanks. that's the way I see it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] The Law,....
In a message dated 11/20/2008 1:55:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) E-harmony sued so they HAVE to promote Gay match/date making. From NJ's Attorney General Office http://www.nj.gov/oag/newsreleases08/pr20081119a.html http://www.nj.gov/oag/newsreleases08/pr20081119a-eHarmony-SA.pdf **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
In a message dated 11/20/2008 4:15:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or is it that all PR? I figured Tommy would run with it. meanwhile, the market sucked out another 444 points === Yeah but a few folks I know who had Budweiser stock made big bucks when Bud merged with InBev this week. Received their checks already and made up for all their 401(k) losses. **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
Actually, the reason eHarmony attorney Ted Olson gave for the settlement was the uncertainty of outcomes when you go to trial or words to that affect. That's being forced. It's like putting a gun to someone's head to sign a contract, and after he signs, it, saying Well I he chose to do it rather than getting shot, so he settled. We didn't force him. He could have chosen to get shot. GayPatriot agrees with me: http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/20/eharmony-forced-to-provide-same-sex-dating-services/ By the way: California just certified a Class Action Lawsuit by gays in that state against eHarmony. Since eHarmony is already providing the new service, that suit is going to be about money. eHarmony wouldn't find them boyfriends, so they should get paid money. Good grief. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/20/2008 3:18:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sometimes the courts go beyond fair and reasonable. From Above the Law dot com (This site provides news and gossip about the professionâs most colorful personalities and powerful institutions, as well as original commentary on breaking legal developments.): Of course, the state isn't forcing eHarmony to do any of this. Ah, the beauty of settlements: better informed than voters, less annoying than judges. === From what I can gather: Since eHarmony disassociated itself from James Dobson's Focus on the Family a while ago, they decided on the settlement rather than testing in the courts. They weren't forced. Looks like they just made a pragmatic choice. Founder Neil Warren has wanted to broaden his company's commercial appeal and grow out of the conservative community in which it started. He's been reconsidering since 2005. In the meantime, he said, We have to get real civil with one another. http://dir.salon.com/story/mwt/feature/2005/06/10/warren/ **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
Gay parades do let straight people march. EHarmony wasn't specifically a straight services until confronted with gay clients. Your parallels are forced. Dating in and of itself, is not straight or gay. Nazi parades proscribe their meaning in there name and function. As does Kwanzaa. As does Vegan. Dating per se, does not. (Sidebar: Why is The Right so obsessed with NAMBLA? They mention this group more than anyone else.) On Nov 20, 2008, at 3:48 PM, justifiedright wrote: John, Sometimes you have to look not at the case facts, but the precedent instead. Sometimes a good result to a sympathetic underdog can actually mean a lot of undesired results for others. That's the part that is awful. At play here is a less often spoken of part of the 1st Amendment (but no less important): Freedom of Association. Should the Pride Parade be forced by the Government to let NAMBLA march? Should we force the Kwanzaa ceremony to open itself up to people of European descent (the services and celebrations are; taking part in the ceremony is forbidden)? Nazi's can march in Skokie in their own parade, but should the government force Jews to allow Nazi's to march in their parade? Should a vegan restaurant, open to the public, be forced to serve food I desire more than vegan? When private people want to get together with like minded people privately, the government shouldn't interfere. Sometimes the bigger picture gets lost when we start rooting for a sympathetic underdog. Also lost here is eHarmony spent much time and money doing research on the compatibility of men and women. They made themselves knowledgable in the field. They haven't studied male/male compatibility (while I'm sure some of it transfers, aren't there also some unique issues?). It's like ordering a heart surgeon to do brain surgery. He doesn't know the field. I thought the goal was to keep others and the government out of gay bedrooms. Why insist eHarmony come in? I did a post at www.justifiedright.com --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really awful? Really? Awful? On Nov 20, 2008, at 2:27 PM, oakdorf wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: I saw that. That's really awful. Well - I'm off to the vegan restaurant to insist they cook me a cheeseburger. Or I'll sue. Thanks. that's the way I see it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what about gaydate.com ? should they be forced to show man seeking woman or woman seeking man Or because the word gay is there enough... This is all Tommy's area. I was just looking at it from the Internet side and the words or owner's intent of a publication. What about the hispanics or or or or Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
John what are your thoughts on that other Asbury Park internet group know as The List. You have to declare yourself to be a homosexual to join. Is that unfairly discriminatory? Or is it protected by the 1st amendment Freedom of Association clause? Anyone else care to opine on that? (Actually makes the whole topic AP related:-) ) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gay parades do let straight people march. EHarmony wasn't specifically a straight services until confronted with gay clients. Your parallels are forced. Dating in and of itself, is not straight or gay. Nazi parades proscribe their meaning in there name and function. As does Kwanzaa. As does Vegan. Dating per se, does not. (Sidebar: Why is The Right so obsessed with NAMBLA? They mention this group more than anyone else.) On Nov 20, 2008, at 3:48 PM, justifiedright wrote: John, Sometimes you have to look not at the case facts, but the precedent instead. Sometimes a good result to a sympathetic underdog can actually mean a lot of undesired results for others. That's the part that is awful. At play here is a less often spoken of part of the 1st Amendment (but no less important): Freedom of Association. Should the Pride Parade be forced by the Government to let NAMBLA march? Should we force the Kwanzaa ceremony to open itself up to people of European descent (the services and celebrations are; taking part in the ceremony is forbidden)? Nazi's can march in Skokie in their own parade, but should the government force Jews to allow Nazi's to march in their parade? Should a vegan restaurant, open to the public, be forced to serve food I desire more than vegan? When private people want to get together with like minded people privately, the government shouldn't interfere. Sometimes the bigger picture gets lost when we start rooting for a sympathetic underdog. Also lost here is eHarmony spent much time and money doing research on the compatibility of men and women. They made themselves knowledgable in the field. They haven't studied male/male compatibility (while I'm sure some of it transfers, aren't there also some unique issues?). It's like ordering a heart surgeon to do brain surgery. He doesn't know the field. I thought the goal was to keep others and the government out of gay bedrooms. Why insist eHarmony come in? I did a post at www.justifiedright.com --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: Really awful? Really? Awful? On Nov 20, 2008, at 2:27 PM, oakdorf wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: I saw that. That's really awful. Well - I'm off to the vegan restaurant to insist they cook me a cheeseburger. Or I'll sue. Thanks. that's the way I see it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
GayPatriot is a self-hating conservative, so of course he agrees with you. On Nov 20, 2008, at 4:43 PM, justifiedright wrote: Actually, the reason eHarmony attorney Ted Olson gave for the settlement was the uncertainty of outcomes when you go to trial or words to that affect. That's being forced. It's like putting a gun to someone's head to sign a contract, and after he signs, it, saying Well I he chose to do it rather than getting shot, so he settled. We didn't force him. He could have chosen to get shot. GayPatriot agrees with me: http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/11/20/eharmony-forced-to-provide- same-sex-dating-services/ By the way: California just certified a Class Action Lawsuit by gays in that state against eHarmony. Since eHarmony is already providing the new service, that suit is going to be about money. eHarmony wouldn't find them boyfriends, so they should get paid money. Good grief. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/20/2008 3:18:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sometimes the courts go beyond fair and reasonable. From Above the Law dot com (This site provides news and gossip about the professionâs most colorful personalities and powerful institutions, as well as original commentary on breaking legal developments.): Of course, the state isn't forcing eHarmony to do any of this. Ah, the beauty of settlements: better informed than voters, less annoying than judges. === From what I can gather: Since eHarmony disassociated itself from James Dobson's Focus on the Family a while ago, they decided on the settlement rather than testing in the courts. They weren't forced. Looks like they just made a pragmatic choice. Founder Neil Warren has wanted to broaden his company's commercial appeal and grow out of the conservative community in which it started. He's been reconsidering since 2005. In the meantime, he said, We have to get real civil with one another. http://dir.salon.com/story/mwt/feature/2005/06/10/warren/ **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/ 10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/? optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
No: They are GAYdate by name. On Nov 20, 2008, at 4:56 PM, oakdorf wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what about gaydate.com ? should they be forced to show man seeking woman or woman seeking man Or because the word gay is there enough... This is all Tommy's area. I was just looking at it from the Internet side and the words or owner's intent of a publication. What about the hispanics or or or or [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GayPatriot is a self-hating conservative, so of course he agrees with you. We were actually having a nice discussion, and I was enjoying actually doing that with you. Why go to name calling and allegations of prejudice? Just doesn't move the discussion along at all. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
So John you think the law turns on what one puts in the name? So if I opened an bar called White's Only that would be OK? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No: They are GAYdate by name. On Nov 20, 2008, at 4:56 PM, oakdorf wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: So what about gaydate.com ? should they be forced to show man seeking woman or woman seeking man Or because the word gay is there enough... This is all Tommy's area. I was just looking at it from the Internet side and the words or owner's intent of a publication. What about the hispanics or or or or [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Some Fun
If you were Secretary of Elections, would you count these ballots for Coleman or Franken: http://minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2008/11/19_challenged_ballots/ Asbury relativity scale: 0 (Just sharing some fun) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
Citing GayPatriot as agreeing with you doesn't move the conversation along, either. On Nov 20, 2008, at 5:23 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GayPatriot is a self-hating conservative, so of course he agrees with you. We were actually having a nice discussion, and I was enjoying actually doing that with you. Why go to name calling and allegations of prejudice? Just doesn't move the discussion along at all. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
Go for it. On Nov 20, 2008, at 5:24 PM, justifiedright wrote: So John you think the law turns on what one puts in the name? So if I opened an bar called White's Only that would be OK? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No: They are GAYdate by name. On Nov 20, 2008, at 4:56 PM, oakdorf wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: So what about gaydate.com ? should they be forced to show man seeking woman or woman seeking man Or because the word gay is there enough... This is all Tommy's area. I was just looking at it from the Internet side and the words or owner's intent of a publication. What about the hispanics or or or or [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No: They are GAYdate by name. so? eHarmony is not gay by name, so you therefore assume it's a straight site and not open to a lawsuit? it's not jewish by name either nor african american by name. If you walk into a clothing store that caters to straight people or walk into one that caters to gay men by means of advertising... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
I think the whole discussion highlights the complexities of labeling. Personally, I think it's sad that labels like gay and lesbian cause so much tension for people. Honestly, we're all pretty much the same, until those few minutes (or hours if your lucky) per week when we are having sex. Other then that, people of all persusions walk their dogs, have dinner, watch TV, have meaningful discussions, do creative things and on and on. Hopefully someday we'll all rise above labels, and that includes Conservative and Liberal If you look hard enough without prejudice, there's something to be learned, and appreciated everywhere... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John what are your thoughts on that other Asbury Park internet group know as The List. You have to declare yourself to be a homosexual to join. Is that unfairly discriminatory? Or is it protected by the 1st amendment Freedom of Association clause? Anyone else care to opine on that? (Actually makes the whole topic AP related:-) ) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: Gay parades do let straight people march. EHarmony wasn't specifically a straight services until confronted with gay clients. Your parallels are forced. Dating in and of itself, is not straight or gay. Nazi parades proscribe their meaning in there name and function. As does Kwanzaa. As does Vegan. Dating per se, does not. (Sidebar: Why is The Right so obsessed with NAMBLA? They mention this group more than anyone else.) On Nov 20, 2008, at 3:48 PM, justifiedright wrote: John, Sometimes you have to look not at the case facts, but the precedent instead. Sometimes a good result to a sympathetic underdog can actually mean a lot of undesired results for others. That's the part that is awful. At play here is a less often spoken of part of the 1st Amendment (but no less important): Freedom of Association. Should the Pride Parade be forced by the Government to let NAMBLA march? Should we force the Kwanzaa ceremony to open itself up to people of European descent (the services and celebrations are; taking part in the ceremony is forbidden)? Nazi's can march in Skokie in their own parade, but should the government force Jews to allow Nazi's to march in their parade? Should a vegan restaurant, open to the public, be forced to serve food I desire more than vegan? When private people want to get together with like minded people privately, the government shouldn't interfere. Sometimes the bigger picture gets lost when we start rooting for a sympathetic underdog. Also lost here is eHarmony spent much time and money doing research on the compatibility of men and women. They made themselves knowledgable in the field. They haven't studied male/male compatibility (while I'm sure some of it transfers, aren't there also some unique issues?). It's like ordering a heart surgeon to do brain surgery. He doesn't know the field. I thought the goal was to keep others and the government out of gay bedrooms. Why insist eHarmony come in? I did a post at www.justifiedright.com --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: Really awful? Really? Awful? On Nov 20, 2008, at 2:27 PM, oakdorf wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: I saw that. That's really awful. Well - I'm off to the vegan restaurant to insist they cook me a cheeseburger. Or I'll sue. Thanks. that's the way I see it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Xtra Xmas tree?
Does anybody out there have a spare x-mas tree? The Bike Church wants to participate in the tree-decorating exhibit for non-profits that is going to take place in the Shoppes in the Arcade during the month of December. Hopefully, someone will come through with one or we'll have to start constructing one out of old spokes Kerri Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the whole discussion highlights the complexities of labeling. Personally, I think it's sad that labels like gay and lesbian cause so much tension for people. or maybe it's the law, the system or the attorney and their plantiff. I sat in court with my daughter today for around three hours. Two people collided. One hit the other in the rear (with their car). One was accused of drunk driving , refused Breath A, Blood test etc. The other driver who was hit, was also drunk, but not legally. Everyone (all the witnesses) because they were injured...all had back or neck pains - but no one really had a driver's license. The American Legal System. Because we are a free country and EVERYONE has a right. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Xtra Xmas tree?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, martin_kerri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody out there have a spare x-mas tree? The Bike Church wants they were around 75% off at linen's and things that not enough people wanted last week... unless you're looking for a real one. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Tunnel Tillie
One word: SCARY --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tunnel Tillie. Tillie without the facial cellulite? Or Tille after Botox? Just received this, labeled Last Stop, Coney Island, from a friend in NY. I posted it here: _AsburyPark: View Photo: Tillie_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/photos/album/701060607/pic/314112031/view?picmode=mode=tnorder=ordinalstart=1 count=20dir=asc) **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Park...
Yes! Didn't you take the trip to Trenton to see his new Arena going up? But nooo! AP wouldn't go with him, as the developer. Everything he built was golden! Trenton still has the same mayor! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: H... Wasn't there a place in AP called The Casino where Ice Skating happened? DUH- Before Fishman (BF) I brought Ron Berman the owner of Ron Berman Development and the owner of a NJ Ice Hockey Team to Asbury Park for an inspection of the Casino. Along came his Planner/Engineer who declared that the building could definitely be saved and restored. The plan was to make it the home base for the Hockey team. Ice skating on the Oceanfront...Fancy that. Well After Fishman (AF) it was declared tha the Casino was beyond salvation..This, by exactly the same Planner/Engineer that a Year earlier had said it could be saved. Had Ron Berman been part of the team the Casino would today be a major attraction. :-( Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
In a message dated 11/20/2008 4:44:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's being forced. GayPatriot agrees with me: == I'll stick with founder Warren as a primary source, not weak analogies, as the basis of my assumption. He was torn on the issue in 2005 and decided to be pragmatic in 2008.http://tinyurl.com/55j8x6 Excerpts: He was certainly aware of the stain political involvement could have on his business as he continues to expand it. And he wasn't shy about bringing it upI have a lot of respect for a lot that goes on in Focus on the Family, he said. Where I get nervous is when people think we're political like Focus on the Family. I love the spirit with which you make that point, he said thoughtfully. And we do do a lot of talking about how we love the idea of being inclusive. He paused again, sounding slightly shaken. It's just not an easy point! Warren brought up his best friend's daughter, a lesbian who has two children with her partner. She's a dear person to us, and a very strong spiritual person, he said. And when I start seeing things like that, I think we've got to start to think about that maybe this can work. **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Park...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes! Didn't you take the trip to Trenton to see his new Arena going up? But nooo! AP wouldn't go with him, as the developer. Everything he built was golden! Trenton still has the same mayor! = I don't think I did, Not needed, I had already seen all of Mr. Bermans projects privately with him while getting him interested in Asbury Park. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: H... Wasn't there a place in AP called The Casino where Ice Skating happened? DUH- Before Fishman (BF) I brought Ron Berman the owner of Ron Berman Development and the owner of a NJ Ice Hockey Team to Asbury Park for an inspection of the Casino. Along came his Planner/Engineer who declared that the building could definitely be saved and restored. The plan was to make it the home base for the Hockey team. Ice skating on the Oceanfront...Fancy that. Well After Fishman (AF) it was declared tha the Casino was beyond salvation..This, by exactly the same Planner/Engineer that a Year earlier had said it could be saved. Had Ron Berman been part of the team the Casino would today be a major attraction. :-( Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well - I'm off to the vegan restaurant to insist they cook me a cheeseburger. Or I'll sue. Oh God, please tell me you didn't ask for a cheeseburger in a vegan restaurant! I worked in one for 6 years, I'd hate to think about how a guy I cherish so much was mocked in the kitchen. It was really hard to be a gracious server whenever someone thought they were being original and funny with that old line. This whole debate simply circles around something we all hate to admit... American narcissism gone nuclear. MOI MOI MOI MOI MOI MOI! MY RIGHTS! MY RIGHTS! MY RIGHTS! Meanwhile children are sold into sex slavery, people work for 50 cents (or less) a day..yadda yadda yadda. and we are pissing people off and boring them for not posting about AP. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Warren brought up his best friend's daughter, a lesbian who has two children with her partner. She's a dear person to us, and a very strong spiritual person, he said. And when I start seeing things like that, I think we've got to start to think about that maybe this can work. Sappiness will get you nowhere with me. I can be 100% for the equality of gays and to completly equalize marriage (I think you know from past writings that is true of me). But if I guy has studied male-female relationships and has a product based on that knowledge, it's reckless of the government to force him to sell the product to two people he has not studied how to help. Prejudice is a sharp weapon. False claims of prejudice is just as sharp of a weapon, not to mention that it obscures issues. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
It's not always about you, Tommy. Neil Warren is the founder of eharmony, and I quoted his words from an interview which provides some perspective to the settlement. Not to play Whack-a-Mole with you in a hornet's nest of baiting and charges about sappiness, recklessness, prejudice, false claims, obscuring issues, and just how awful this (non AP) news story is. Moving on. In a message dated 11/20/2008 9:37:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Warren brought up his best friend's daughter, a lesbian who has two children with her partner. She's a dear person to us, and a very strong spiritual person, he said. And when I start seeing things like that, I think we've got to start to think about that maybe this can work. Sappiness will get you nowhere with me. I can be 100% for the equality of gays and to completly equalize marriage (I think you know from past writings that is true of me). But if I guy has studied male-female relationships and has a product based on that knowledge, it's reckless of the government to force him to sell the product to two people he has not studied how to help. Prejudice is a sharp weapon. False claims of prejudice is just as sharp of a weapon, not to mention that it obscures issues. Yahoo! Groups Links **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
...it's reckless of the government to force him to sell the product to two people he has not studied how to help. Oh, please. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
Mario your quote from him was from 2005. Mine was from him today, about why he settled the lawsuit - which was because he feared a trial. Yet somehow, you still assert what he said in 2005 is why he settled the suit, not what he said today. You are right, it's not about me. It's about you. You want to argue for argument's sake. Then say I'm moving on. Now you can move on. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not always about you, Tommy. Neil Warren is the founder of eharmony, and I quoted his words from an interview which provides some perspective to the settlement. Not to play Whack-a-Mole with you in a hornet's nest of baiting and charges about sappiness, recklessness, prejudice, false claims, obscuring issues, and just how awful this (non AP) news story is. Moving on. In a message dated 11/20/2008 9:37:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: Warren brought up his best friend's daughter, a lesbian who has two children with her partner. She's a dear person to us, and a very strong spiritual person, he said. And when I start seeing things like that, I think we've got to start to think about that maybe this can work. Sappiness will get you nowhere with me. I can be 100% for the equality of gays and to completly equalize marriage (I think you know from past writings that is true of me). But if I guy has studied male-female relationships and has a product based on that knowledge, it's reckless of the government to force him to sell the product to two people he has not studied how to help. Prejudice is a sharp weapon. False claims of prejudice is just as sharp of a weapon, not to mention that it obscures issues. Yahoo! Groups Links **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/