date:20090103

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... 
wrote:

 I never said alone Tommy Fox. I know women abuse power. I am one 
and
 have spent lots of time around them.  I don't wish to discuss abortion
 with you here. thats not why people come here.

They don't come here to discuss male abuse of power either but you 
brought it up. And yes you said mostly men abuse power over others, 
which is completely belied by the 45 million dead children.




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[AsburyPark] TCN: Asbury Park as the Center of the Universe. (Not the Center of TCN???)

In a message dated 1/2/2009 10:25:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
marioa...@aol.com writes:

Jan. 1  issue of triCityNews is mainly all about the WEB coverage of the NYT  
 print and WEB article Newspaper Shuns Web:
Half the cover page; every  word of the publisher's message, p. 6 and  
spilling over to cover every  inch of space on pp. 46--47, including mail, and  
trailing off finally on  page 56.  Hyper-Boosterish, to modify Carr's  word.

More  coverage than any other issue in the paper, including the upcoming  
city  
council elections.
 

 
DJ to the NYT: We want people to think of Asbury Park as the center of the  
universe.
 
Not a word this week about any of these Asbury Park stories, all covered in  
the Coaster this week:
 
AP artist Sternesky whose work will be displayed in Eatontown, p. 2
 
AP train station purchased by Visiting Nurses, p. 7
 
AP's Artscap winners of Imagine Asbury Park street banner contest  
announced, p. 17
 
AP BOE hosting meeting regarding a new uperintendent, p. 19
 
AP Chamber of Commerce's record membership and new full-time director, p.  18
 
AP's Golden Age of R 'n' B event, p. 27
 
AP's First Satrurday with Frosty the Snowman, p. 5
 
AP's Chief Kinmon reports decrease in violent crime, p. 1
 
AP's Interfaith Neighbors is in need of additional funding.
 
AP's firefighters' Christmas Dinner, p. 1
**New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making 
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[AsburyPark] Re: TCN: Asbury Park as the Center of the Universe. (Not the Center of TCN???)

Replying to your own posts Mario? 

Your TCN envy is palpable.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote:

 In a message dated 1/2/2009 10:25:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
 marioa...@... writes:
 
 Jan. 1  issue of triCityNews is mainly all about the WEB coverage 
of the NYT  
  print and WEB article Newspaper Shuns Web:
 Half the cover page; every  word of the publisher's message, p. 6 
and  
 spilling over to cover every  inch of space on pp. 46--47, 
including mail, and  
 trailing off finally on  page 56.  Hyper-Boosterish, to modify 
Carr's  word.
 
 More  coverage than any other issue in the paper, including the 
upcoming  
 city  
 council elections.
  
 
  
 DJ to the NYT: We want people to think of Asbury Park as the 
center of the  
 universe.
  
 Not a word this week about any of these Asbury Park stories, all 
covered in  
 the Coaster this week:
  
 AP artist Sternesky whose work will be displayed in Eatontown, p. 2
  
 AP train station purchased by Visiting Nurses, p. 7
  
 AP's Artscap winners of Imagine Asbury Park street banner 
contest  
 announced, p. 17
  
 AP BOE hosting meeting regarding a new uperintendent, p. 19
  
 AP Chamber of Commerce's record membership and new full-time 
director, p.  18
  
 AP's Golden Age of R 'n' B event, p. 27
  
 AP's First Satrurday with Frosty the Snowman, p. 5
  
 AP's Chief Kinmon reports decrease in violent crime, p. 1
  
 AP's Interfaith Neighbors is in need of additional funding.
  
 AP's firefighters' Christmas Dinner, p. 1
 **New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is 
making 
 headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026)
 
 
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[AsburyPark] Support our Asbury Park advertisers (See where can you find them in print.)

In a message dated 1/2/2009 10:25:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
marioa...@aol.com writes:

This  Fifteen Minutes of 'Dew' Fame could not have been possible  without  
DJ's WEB email to c...@nytimes.com, the NYT's presence on the  WEB  and other 
news outlets and the media bloggers who picked up the   story from...the WEB.

So sorry to notice how few of the advertisers are  by Asbury Park  retailers.
 
===
 
Asbury Park's retailer ads in this week's Coaster:
 
Moonstruck, Langosta Lounge, Rick's Auto Body, Watermark,
 
Coastal NJ Fence (100% female owned),  Asbury Park Pediatrics,
 
The Hardware Store, First Saturday, Mattison Park, Restaurant Plan B
 
Laila's, Frank's Deli, Home Drug Store, Main Liquors, Rimpee's,
 
S.S. The Spot, Sir Jean's, et al.
 
===
 
In TCN:  Etc., APBoardwalk.com, Community Bank of AP, First Saturday,  
Paradise, Mattison Park, ShelterHome, Twisted Tree, Revision Theater.
 
=
 
NYT:   Why should we give our readers any incentive  whatsoever to not look 
at our content along with our advertisements, a large  number of which are 
beautiful and cheap full-page ads?...Mr. Jacobson has built  a reliable cadre 
of 
advertisers who call for ads, sign up for full pages, and  pay in advance. 
There are no people working for sales commissionsThe low  cost of entry on 
the advertising side means that almost anyone--a bar, a  retailer, a gym--can 
afford a full-page ad, and the preponderance of them leads  to an 
elegant-looking productI don't want anything that detracts from the  paper 
and the 
presence of those big, beautiful full-page ads.
 
 
 
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[AsburyPark] Re: TCN: Asbury Park as the Center of the Universe. (Not the Center of TCN???)

2009-01-03 Thread dfsavgny

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedri...@... wrote:

 Replying to your own posts Mario? 
 
 Your TCN envy is palpable.

Thanks Mario for being specific in your illustration. We all wish DJ
and TCN luck, but it ain't a newspaper and the NYT story was
misleading. I have thought often about the relationship between the
web and print and whether publishers should make the print available
on the web for free. Some do and some don't. I pay for some and not
(refuse) for others.

But I suspect that print may be in the same position of buggy whip
manufacturers. All of this could have been the substance of the NYT
story rather than the misleading success story of our local Pennysaver.





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[AsburyPark] Re: Is there a health clinic in AP?

2009-01-03 Thread sharon_b283

There are also clinic-like physicians on Davis Ave. in Neptune, behind
the Neptune Police Station, adjacent to the Emergency Room at Jersey
Shore Medical Center.  They're either free or pay on a sliding scale.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise denisem...@... wrote:

 There was one in Neptune but I think they had to relocate since they
had a fire.  The walk-in clinic located in Shoprite is on a sliding
fee scale.  Call the Monmouth County Health Department (732) 431-7456
for a list of other local free or low cost clinics.  There is one in
Freehold that is similar to the Parker House in Red Bank
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@...
 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 1, 2009 2:13:16 PM
 Subject: [AsburyPark] Is there a health clinic in AP?
 
 
 Like the Parker in RB
 
  
 
 
   
 
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[AsburyPark] Re: TCN: Asbury Park as the Center of the Universe. (Not the Center of TCN???)

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@... wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
 justifiedright@ wrote:
 
  Replying to your own posts Mario? 
  
  Your TCN envy is palpable.
 
 Thanks Mario for being specific in your illustration. We all wish DJ
 and TCN luck, but it ain't a newspaper and the NYT story was
 misleading. I have thought often about the relationship between the
 web and print and whether publishers should make the print available
 on the web for free. Some do and some don't. I pay for some and not
 (refuse) for others.
 
 But I suspect that print may be in the same position of buggy whip
 manufacturers. All of this could have been the substance of the NYT
 story rather than the misleading success story of our local 
Pennysaver.



The success of the newspaper and the nationwide attention that is 
getting speaks for itself.




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: TCN: Asbury Park as the Center of the Universe. (Not ...

In a message dated 1/3/2009 9:16:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
justifiedri...@yahoo.com writes:

Replying to your own posts Mario?
Your TCN envy is palpable.

===

I'll ignore the silly non-sequitur envy comment because I've nothing to
gain or lose.

I'm a disinterested, not uninterested, party trying to make sense of it all.
Inquiring minds want to know. ;-)

Replying to my own posts? Yep, as in following up. I try to avoid cliches
(like the plague lol), but in this case, the devil IS in the details.

Looks like even Art Gallagher doesn't look for the devil in the details,
which is why I wanted to follow up:

From http://tinyurl.com/7zugk5

There are two weekly newspapers in Monmouth County that are owned by former
state legislators

The Tri-City News on the other hand seems to have found a way to make money
publishing a weekly paper

[Note the dropping of newspaper to paper].

Publisher Dan Jacobson will not publish any content on the Internet. He's
all about the paper and its advertisers

Not only has the Tri-City News been able to make money, it has amazing
power and influence. If you don't believe me just read it. Dan will tell you
how
powerful the paper is in every issue.

_MoreMonmouthMusings: Two Monmouth Weeklies: One thrives while the other
dives_
(http://moremonmouthmusings.blogspot.com/2008/12/two-monmouth-weeklies-one-thrives-while.html)

A few years back, I would have said Hear! Hear! to the power and
influence comment. And when I found some great cheerleading for Asbury Park,
I
wanted to forward it to my out-of-town friends, but I couldn't because it
wasn't
on the web. I have generally been able to do so with the Coaster.

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[AsburyPark] The Year in Review

2009-01-03 Thread dfsavgny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWiXy55OHyY




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: TCN: Asbury Park as the Center of the Universe. (Not ...

I too like DJ and wish him success.  Consider my comments as gentle  noodging.
 
My take on the financial pressure being felt by print media is that  those 
readers who used to buy a paper for want-ads, classifieds, tv schedules,  
lottery numbers, sports scores, et al. have gone to more immediate sources or  
lists 
like Craig's which are free.  I'm guessing that a huge chunk of  that 
readership weren't really print news consumers.
 
I'm also guessing that there is a narrower audience out there which is  still 
interested in news and analysis by professional journalists both in print  
and online.  I'm willing to pay for both.
 
 
In a message dated 1/3/2009 9:38:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
dfsav...@yahoo.com writes:

Thanks  Mario for being specific in your illustration. We all wish DJ
and TCN luck,  but it ain't a newspaper and the NYT story was
misleading. I have thought  often about the relationship between the
web and print and whether  publishers should make the print available
on the web for free. Some do and  some don't. I pay for some and not
(refuse) for others.

But I  suspect that print may be in the same position of buggy whip
manufacturers.  All of this could have been the substance of the NYT
story rather than the  misleading success story of our local  Pennysaver.

**New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making 
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Re: [AsburyPark] The Year in Review

In a message dated 1/3/2009 10:12:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
dfsav...@yahoo.com writes:

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWiXy55OHyY_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWiXy55OHyY) 
 
=
 
Uncle Jay got 3,245,444 view hits on the aboce link.
 
How many for TCN's Jay's (Jason's) 2008 Year in Review (all  about stickers 
on street signs!) on p. 26?
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[AsburyPark] Paper Mill Special event at the Crane House

2009-01-03 Thread asburycheech

The Stephen Crane House, Asbury Park, NJ, presents Paper Mill Goes
Wilde!  

To celebrate the Paper Mill's brand new production of THE IMPORTANCE
OF BEING EARNEST starring the wonderful Lynn Redgrave, please join us
for a special screening of the original film version of Oscar Wilde's
trivial comedy for serious people.  The 1952 classic stars Ms.
Redgrave's father Michael as Jack Worthing and Dame Edith Evans as
Lady Bracknell, the role essayed by Ms. Redgrave at Paper Mill.

The screening will be preceded by a special Platinum Anniversary
retrospective of Paper Mill Playhouse, who are celebrating their 70th
Anniversary this season.  Mr. Michael T. Mooney, the Playhouse's
Outreach Manager, will be on hand to talk about the theater's
illustrious past, and there will be Paper Mill door prizes and
give-aways, including a chance to win a pair of tickets to THE
IMPORTANCE OF BEING EARNEST!  

Seating is strictly limited, so reservations are recommended. Please
contact Mr. Mooney at mmoo...@papermill.org or 973.379.3636 x2666 to
reserve your seat!

When?  Saturday, January 24th at 6 pm.
Where?  The Stephen Crane House, 508 4th Avenue, Asbury Park, NJ  07712
Cost?  Free!  (However donations will be accepted toward Paper Mill
Education and   Outreach)
Refreshments will be served!






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[AsburyPark] Re: TCN: Asbury Park as the Center of the Universe. (Not the Center of TCN???)

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@... wrote:

 Sciannameo AND air AND zeckendorf
 
 and DO NOT omit results. You will see the story in other languages.
 The mere repetition of that story by others does not add one iota of
 truth to the original story.

Difference being they aren't just repeating the story - they are 
debating, and even extending it with all the interview requests for Dan.

I've received a few emails from people asking me why those on this 
board have such a hostility toward TCN and seem determined to rain on a 
very sunny day for the paper.

Good neighbors usually revel in one another's success.

Another theme was that the detractors on this board seem to be outside 
of what other folks around the triCity region are saying about the 
story.

That of course came as no surprise.
 






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[AsburyPark] Re: TCN: Asbury Park as the Center of the Universe. (Not the Center of TCN???)

...my friend is a big shot a large print advertising company. They 
merged with another co  a few months ago. They do inserts layouts 
distribution etc.

The pain they have begun to feel - Boscovs, Circuit City etc etc - no 
more stores - no more ads once or twice a week.

We then got into an 8 hour conversation about transformation to the 
web - a problem their co is facing. 

Why even have a web presence at all or accept ads via email or 
advertise ad rates - on the web?  Why not use regular mail or the 
tele? So the web/net does have a publication.

Flip it around - there are many, many large and small Internet 
publications or blogs that are or were very successful - profitable.

Without the net RentLaw.com would not be around in paper form. And it 
wouldn't of been picked up those paper book publishers referring to 
it or newspapers writing about it.

EVERY co should have some kind of web presence. TCN does. Imagine 
those archives on the net

PS - a couple people joined the Asbury Park GROUP on linkedin.com

Go to linkedin.com and search for the group ASbury Park and join.

We'll have  real who's who in and thinking of Asbury.






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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: TCN: Asbury Park as the Center of the Universe. (Not ...

In a message dated 1/3/2009 11:37:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
justifiedri...@yahoo.com writes:

--- In  AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@...  wrote:
Sciannameo AND air AND zeckendorf  and DO NOT omit  results. You will see the 
story in other languages.
The mere repetition of  that story by others does not add one iota of
truth to the original  story.

Difference being they aren't just repeating the story - they are  
debating, and even extending it with all the interview requests for  Dan.
 
===
 
That's what we have been doing, debating and extending it, but I don't see  
any overwhelming  evidence, as you claim, that that's what's happening at  all 
the web hits on the story.  I see viral repeats of quotes  from Carr's 
original story.
 
Can you provide any links to those sites which agree with your  cutting 
edge theory?
 
 
 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: TCN: Asbury Park as the Center of the Universe. (Not ...

In a message dated 1/3/2009 11:37:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
justifiedri...@yahoo.com writes:

I've  received a few emails from people asking me why those on this 
board have  such a hostility toward TCN and seem determined to rain on a 
very sunny  day for the paper.
Good neighbors usually revel in one another's  success.
Another theme was that the detractors on this board seem to be  outside 
of what other folks around the triCity region are saying about the  
story.
That of course came as no surprise.
 

 
 
What comes as no surprise is that
 
you've managed to twist the debate and/or disagreement about
1) the impact of the story,
2) the issue of web vs. no web content, and
3) the difference between a newspaper and an ad paper
 
into an issue of detractors and hostility toward DJ.And you've even  
introduced the term envy.
 
Those of us who have participated in the discussion here have all  expressed 
a liking for DJ and avoided any ad hominem personalizing.  
 
Regarding those few emails you've received.  Invite the senders to  
participate here.  If not, can you paste and copy (after removing  identifying 
info) 
for us so we can understand exactly how they've come to  misinterpret our 
discussions?
 
Best Wishes to DJ and TCN do not preclude our discussing this tempest in a  
web teapot.
 
;-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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[AsburyPark] Re: TCN: Asbury Park as the Center of the Universe. (Not ...

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote:


 Can you provide any links to those sites which agree with 
your  cutting 
 edge theory?

Oxymoronic.

If there were wide understanding of it, it would no longer be cutting 
edge.

It's my theory, the plog, which is exactly why you don't like it.

That it just got coverage in the NYT and the Columbia School of 
Journalism no doubt burns you up.  It flies in the face of your 
stalkerish attempts to minimize over ther years.

You can be certain if any other AP buiness got such broad attention, 
the TCN and myself would promote it endlessly (boosteish).

Love thy neighbor.

Your jelously has kicked of this latest (in a long line) of poor 
analyzing and complaining by you.





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[AsburyPark] Re: TCN: Asbury Park as the Center of the Universe. (Not ...

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote:

our discussing this tempest in a  
 web teapot.

Like an addict, you can't control it.  You make a post denying the 
minimizing and the jealously, but in the last line you were compelled 
to reveal it anyway.

I'll let you off the hook.

You can have the last word.  I know it's important to you.




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-03 Thread Jersey Shore John

Blastocytes are not children.

On Jan 3, 2009, at 8:31 AM, justifiedright wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre  
 gabrielleo...@...
 wrote:
 
  I never said alone Tommy Fox. I know women abuse power. I am one
 and
  have spent lots of time around them. I don't wish to discuss  
 abortion
  with you here. thats not why people come here.

 They don't come here to discuss male abuse of power either but you
 brought it up. And yes you said mostly men abuse power over others,
 which is completely belied by the 45 million dead children.


 



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[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

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jerseyshorej...@... wrote:

 Blastocytes are not children.

Human.




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[AsburyPark] Ads...papers etc...

I had(ve) an ad on the Internet. 
Basically cost me nothing. I think I got a little deal from it today.

My boss is old. He believes in signs, signs, signs. 
Look, there's our sign SEE he always says. 

Signs, print, net, email blast, newletters - all ads. Up to the 
advertiser to determine what works best for them. Might be the TCN, 
might be the NYT, might be co-op ads, the Internet or the worst - I 
don't need to advertise...

And of course the net is great for PR, controversy etc. Controversy 
sells more product. My cousin married some well know photographer. 
People in her world and some out know of her. She then took 
some shocking photos. Someone complained. He took that complaining 
and complained more - then all the media ran with it. More fame, more 
success then before the controvery... as reported on the web.





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[AsburyPark] Re: Ads...papers etc...

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote:

 I had(ve) an ad on the Internet. 
 Basically cost me nothing. 

That right there is DJ's point, in case others on this board missed it.




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[AsburyPark] Re: Ads...papers etc...

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright 
justifiedri...@... wrote:
 
 That right there is DJ's point, in case others on this board missed 
it.


Depends how you look at it.

1. The ad appeared on my website, asburyboardwalk.com. How do I know? I 
ask how'd you get my number. 
2. Did other realtors ask to advertise on asburyboardwalk.com?
a) Yes. Do I show ads for other realtors? No. I did quote a price, but 
that's ok. 

I have another rather large website - national. All from my laptop. 
It's profitable. Why? My reach is national. Every state and I can 
disect those states easily - Google or Yahoo or other services target 
mysite (and their advertisers) and in target,a re getting much better 
at targeting local internet users. Still flaws in the system, but it 
works. It works for the advertiser, for the publisher (me) and for the 
adserving company (example, google).

You can pay rent and serve the local community who may or may not have 
money, or use the Internet, pay a little rent, and be anywhere you want 
to be - and anyone you want to be.

The TCN is neat for it's market. Look, we all know what's in it every 
week or we couldn't comment. But Tommy has to embrace the web, or we 
woudln't see the justifiedright.com blog nor him on FOX, via the web. 
From a local guy toan Internet cult hero...






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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: TCN: Asbury Park as the Center of the Universe. (Not ...

In a message dated 1/3/2009 1:59:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
justifiedri...@yahoo.com writes:

You can  be certain if any other AP buiness got such broad attention, the TCN 
and  myself would promote it endlessly (boosteish).
 
Fact:  I was the first to promot the news here about the NYT's  coverage: 
message 43737http://tinyurl.com/78b8mo
 
Quite boosterish of me.  After all [I'm] here to help.;-)
 
=
 
 justifiedri...@yahoo.com writes:

That it  just got coverage in the NYT and the Columbia School of 
Journalism no  doubt burns you up. 
 

 
Fact:  I can't be burned up because nothing turns up any coverage at  the 
Columbia School of Journalism.  What does come up are dittoe hits  with your 
own 
sentence from your own blog: I take pride that this  week the Columbia School 
of Journalism picked up on triCityNews being a “plog,”  — a word I invented. 
 
 
You're entitled to self-promotion but it's not quite viral yet:
 
8 hits here   http://tinyurl.com/9lbtdt
 
9 hits here  http://tinyurl.com/8afuhx
 
3 hits here   http://tinyurl.com/8v8k67
 
When you get to guest lecture at Columbia, reserve a seat for  me.   ;-)
==
 
 
justifiedri...@yahoo.com writes:
 
marioa...@... wrote:  Can you provide any links to  those sites which agree 
with 
your  cutting edge  theory?

Oxymoronic.  If there were wide understanding of it, it  would no longer be 
cutting edge.
 

=
 
Fact: I asked for sites which, as you claimed, agreed with  you, that is 
touting your theory that staying off the web is cutting  edge;
I didn't ask if there was a wide understanding of it.  Lots of cutting  edge 
stuff out there which millions jumped on, even without wide understanding,  
like facebook and now new to me Linked in.
 
Double check the definitions of oxymoron and cutting edge.
 
===
 
 justifiedri...@yahoo.com writes:

It's my  theory, the plog, which is exactly why you don't like itno 
doubt burns  you up.  It flies in the face of your 
stalkerish attempts to minimize  over there yearsYour jelously has kicked 
of this latest (in a long line)  of poor 
analyzing and complaining by you.Like an addict, you can't control  it...I'll 
let you off the hookI know it's important to  you.
 
===

 
Sophomoric personalizing, Victimization Redux,  and Deja vu all over again. 
[sic]
 
==
 
 
In a message dated 1/3/2009 2:04:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
justifiedri...@yahoo.com writes:
 
You can  have the last word. 


 
===
 
Good.  
 
'Cause I have to go watch for either the Nine Ladies Dancing  or the Ten 
Lords-a-Leaping at First Night; not sure what today's schedule is,  but I did 
miss 
the Eight Maids-a-Milking this week.  Swans   Ducks-a-Swimming I can always 
see in my neighborhood.
 
Much better than watching my words and intent get twisted and  continue 
Whack-a-Mole this early in 2009.
 
 
 
 


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[AsburyPark] Re: TCN: Asbury Park as the Center of the Universe. (Not ...

---come ontd, try linkedin.com

I avoided it, til I started looking at economy and was curious where 
some my ex corporate bosses were and others.

It's another way of self-promotion - or networking for older folks. 

There's even attorneys from our area on linkedin, a city manager or two 
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[AsburyPark] Linkedin Help

Dave,
 
I joined, but have to examine how best to use it.  Other than  networking for 
business people, realtors, landlords, tenants, etc., what are you  hoping to 
see happen there regarding AP?
 
Social networking doesn't seem to be a primary purpose.  If I wanted  to 
expand my dabbling in tutoring and mentoring, is it the best venue in your  
opnion?
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/3/2009 4:09:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
oakd...@yahoo.com writes:

---come  ontd, try linkedin.com

I avoided it, til I started looking at economy  and was curious where 
some my ex corporate bosses were and  others.

It's another way of self-promotion - or networking for older  folks. 

There's even attorneys from our area on linkedin, a city  manager or two 
and plenty  more.

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Ads...papers etc...

2009-01-03 Thread Jersey Shore John

No one's missing your elementary points. Or reads TCN.

On Jan 3, 2009, at 2:56 PM, justifiedright wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote:

  I had(ve) an ad on the Internet.
  Basically cost me nothing.

 That right there is DJ's point, in case others on this board missed  
 it.


 



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