[AsburyPark] Re: A black eye

2009-01-06 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, theshortsalepro njd...@... wrote:

 
 Unfortunately, THAT will be the experience repeated to our friends' 
 friends.


You can't walk 10 steps in San Francisco without being asked for a
handout or stepping over someone laying in the street. I recognize
what you are saying about impressions but there is little you can do
to stop it. What is worse is the charitable organizations in AP not
policing their giveaway locations. Those who live near them have to
bear the brunt while everyone else goes home with a clean conscience.





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[AsburyPark] Re: A black eye

2009-01-06 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@... wrote:
 What is worse is the charitable organizations in AP not
 policing their giveaway locations. Those who live near them have to
 bear the brunt while everyone else goes home with a clean 
conscience.


or those that wind up in residential areas and grow.

that's ALL they asked for?

How was the of their night.

We wound up at Watermark for one Sat night early. The trolley was 
going around. 

No problems. Had my seat by the fireplace and dozed off for a few 
minutes.

Some guy was putting money in the meter...it kept on beeping at him. 
Told him don't bother it's free.

How much has been collected in the off season.

Need glow in the dark numbers.




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[AsburyPark] Re: A black eye

2009-01-06 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote:
 
 Some guy was putting money in the meter...it kept on beeping at him. 
 Told him don't bother it's free.
 
 How much has been collected in the off season.
 
 Need glow in the dark numbers.

=

Why would you discourage someone from adding revenue to the City's budget??

Telling people not to feed the meters certainly doesn't help, just let them do 
it.

Werner




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[AsburyPark] Re: A black eye

2009-01-06 Thread Jack Pitzer
Because the city announced that parking is currently free.
The city also has  completely dropped the ball on public awareness of this 
issue.
No signs and little PR.
Why should people mistakenly pay for something that is supposed to be free at 
the 
moment?
Just taking their money because people make the mistake of paying is really 
shady.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernera...@... wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
  
  Some guy was putting money in the meter...it kept on beeping at him. 
  Told him don't bother it's free.
  
  How much has been collected in the off season.
  
  Need glow in the dark numbers.
 
 =
 
 Why would you discourage someone from adding revenue to the City's budget??
 
 Telling people not to feed the meters certainly doesn't help, just let them 
 do it.
 
 Werner







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[AsburyPark] Taxes

2009-01-06 Thread dsher4
Werner,
It was nice to meet you last week.  I wondered if anyone noticed 
that new part on your tax bill that shows what the state is paying 
on your behalf as a homeowner in Asbury.  
How is the town ever going to generate the 45+ million (this is my 
calculation so not sure if it is correct) for schooling that is 
carried by the state every year.  The deficit is so large it would 
seem to be insurmountable.  Does anyone have any knowledge on the 
topic and when the Asbury revaluation is coming if it hasn't already?

Dan S.  


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernera...@... 
wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
  
  Some guy was putting money in the meter...it kept on beeping at 
him. 
  Told him don't bother it's free.
  
  How much has been collected in the off season.
  
  Need glow in the dark numbers.
 
 =
 
 Why would you discourage someone from adding revenue to the City's 
budget??
 
 Telling people not to feed the meters certainly doesn't help, just 
let them do it.
 
 Werner






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[AsburyPark] Re: A black eye

2009-01-06 Thread theshortsalepro
How was the rest of their night?

I dropped $250 at Old Man Raffertys and each time I eat there I vow not 
to eat there again.  Everyone else enjoyed their meal, though.

After dinner, our friends were ready to leave, so we escorted them to 
their car... and went back to Cookman. We so enjoy it... its a shame 
more people don't come out.

Millville, NJ has Third Friday and it, too, is terrific, just a 
longer ride. It is more artsy oriented, more working studios, and
more storefronts... with huge loft areas.  There must have been 20 
different musical acts... all styles.  Awhile back, I was invited by a 
bookstore/cafe for a book signing event (Fight Foreclosure!) and have 
been asked back this month. 

If I drive all the way down there for 3rd Friday, I certainly don't 
want to be stuck signing books... 





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[AsburyPark] Re: Taxes

2009-01-06 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsh...@... wrote:

 Does anyone have any knowledge on the 
 topic and when the Asbury revaluation is coming if it hasn't already?
 

Revaluation should be revenue neutral (but often isn't). Just think of
assessments and the tax rate as the matrix that will give the required
revenue. Both will be tweaked to give the required revenue. That is
what property tax is all about (seriously). Two relevant stories. I
thought ours was supposed to be 2010.

1.

ABERDEEN — The Monmouth County Tax Board denied the township's request
to delay implementing new property tax assessments because of bad
economic conditions.

County Tax Administrator Matthew S. Clark said approving the request
only would mean that those people who are paying too much will
continue paying too much.

Regardless of what is going on in the market, Clark said, revaluations
are necessary.

Mayor David Sobel sent a written request to the board Dec. 2. A
decision was made Dec. 17.

The township completed a revaluation process in October, and the new
assessments are expected to take effect this month, Township Manager
Joseph Criscuolo said.

2.

TOMS RIVER — The newly completed revaluation shows the total value of
property in the township is about $1 billion less than last year,
reflecting the decline in the housing market.

Township Tax Assessor Glenn Seelhorst said the revaluation was
completed last week, and Certified Valuations, the company that
conducted the revaluation, has begun sending letters to the
approximately 42,000 Toms River property owners.

The revaluation, the first in 14 years, had been scheduled to be
completed last year, but the mayor and Township Council requested a
one-year postponement to factor in current property values.

We used the most recent (house) sales, and we are substantially less
than we were in the 2008 calendar year, Seelhorst said, explaining
how the total value of property in the township in 2007 for the 2008
tax-year study was roughly $18.8 billion. After considering the 2008
sales for 2009, the number is about a billion dollars less at
approximately $17.8 billion for the 2009 tax year.

Resident Victor Antonelli, who lives in the Lake Ridge adult
community, said he predicts his two-bedroom, two-bathroom house will
go down in value.

My opinion is that they waited too long to implement this
(revaluation), said Antonelli, 69. The market collapsed, so when
they did those evaluations, they were very high. You have to give the
taxpayers a fair shake. We are in a very bad economy.

Antonelli said his home was valued at about $134,000 in 1994, and at
its peak value several years ago, it reached almost $300,000.

My house probably dropped from $300,000 to $230,000, he said of its
value now.

Seelhorst said that when the last revaluation was done in 1994,
several areas of the township were substantially under- or
over-assessed. He said areas such as the barrier islands and other
waterfront properties were under-assessed, and will see an increase in
appraisals and possibly taxes, and some areas, such as the adult
communities of Greenbriar and Lake Ridge, were over-assessed.

A revaluation is a revenue-neutral exercise, he said. It is
designed to equitably allocate the tax burden based on sales. With an
assessment at 100 percent of market sales value, naturally the tax
rate will change, as reflected in the notice of value from the old
average rate of $3.38 per $100 of value to an estimated $1.23 per $100
of value, to collect the same amount of tax revenue.

Daniel Polifroni, a resident in the Ortley Beach section of Toms
River, also said it's a bad time to conduct a revaluation.

People are losing their homes and out of work, and then you raise
taxes? said Polifroni, 88, a longtime member of the Ortley Beach
Property Owners Association. If you want to reassess (the homes) to
knock (the value) down, go ahead. But to reassess it for any other
purpose is ridiculous right now.

Polifroni said the idea of reassessing homes in this economic climate
is bad governing.

They should discontinue it for better times, he said. If times are
good, you expect to pay your fair share. But times are bad, people can
barely pay their taxes now.

Toms River Mayor Thomas F. Kelaher said the revaluation was postponed
in order to evaluate the homes with the current market conditions.

A lot of people are going to be pleased that their evaluations are
going to go up, and their taxes will not go up, or in some instances,
may even go down, Kelaher said.

But the mayor agreed with Seelhorst that the waterfront, river, bay
and ocean areas will go up.





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[AsburyPark] Re: Taxes

2009-01-06 Thread dsher4
I found this on the web for those who are interested.  Its a FAQ for 
a company that does revaluation appraisal in New Jersey 
municipalities.  I found it informative.  Here is the link also

Why is my town undergoing a revaluation now? 
Towns undertake revaluations periodically to reflect current market 
conditions. Neighborhoods change, individual homes may change, but 
assessments are mostly static. The one major exception is if you 
improve or enlarge your dwelling. Since market conditions change, 
and assessments rarely change over time, the relationship between 
assessments and market values becomes more distant and must be 
brought into line. 



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What is the purpose of revaluation? 

The purpose of the revaluation is to redistribute the existing tax 
burden more fairly based on current market value: If your home is 
worth $300,000 you should be assessed at $300,000. If your home is 
worth $500,000, you should be assessed at $500,000. This principle 
is established by the New Jersey Constitution, and spelled out 
specifically in statutory law. 



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Will my taxes go up after the reval? 

Many homeowners think that the town is using the revaluation to 
raise property taxes. This is not the case. The amount that you pay 
in real estate taxes is determined by your municipal, county and 
local school district budgets. If these budgets go up from one year 
to the next, and state aid is static, property taxes will rise, 
whether or not the town undertakes a reval. 



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What happens to the tax rate after a revaluation? 

Because the ratable base (total assessed value of all properties in 
town) goes up after a revaluation, the tax rate is adjusted 
downward. For example: 

Pre-reval Assessed Value x. Tax Rate = Pre-reval Taxes


$250,000 x $4.00 = $10,000


Post-reval Assessed Value x. Tax Rate = Post-reval Taxes


$500,000 x $2.00 = $10,000
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Why do you need to come into my home? 

The Division of Taxation mandates that we attempt to inspect the 
interior of every dwelling and commercial/industrial/apartment 
building in town. Inspecting the interior of your dwelling helps to 
make a more accurate valuation of your property. 



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I have not made any improvements to my property since the last 
reval. Why does my house have to be inspected? 

Unless an interior inspection is made, we cannot determine the 
current condition of the dwelling. If the interior of your dwelling 
is unchanged over the years, you should encourage the inspector to 
see the interior condition. 



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Who will inspect my dwelling? 

The person inspecting your dwelling is a trained full-time property 
inspector. He or she is not a tax assessor and not an appraiser. He 
or she will not be formulating an appraisal of your house. Our 
inspectors are trained to measure the exterior of the dwelling and 
to inspect both the exterior and interior. 



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What kind of identification do the inspectors carry with them? 

These inspectors will have two forms of identification: a company-
issued badge with photograph, and also a town-issued letter of 
introduction. Please make sure to check their identification before 
allowing them into your dwelling. 



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What is the inspector looking for inside my home? 

They are not looking at your furnishings, your clothing, or your 
pets. They are counting rooms and baths, noting the type of heating 
system, as well as amenities such as fireplaces, decks, patios, etc. 
They also look at the condition of the dwelling, as well as any 
problem you bring to their attention. 



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Do I have to let the inspector into my house? 

You are not required to allow an inspector to enter your home. 
However, if you decide not to allow an inspection, you can be sure 
that your valuation will be substantially higher than it would have 
been had you allowed the inspection. In fact, after we mail out our 
valuation letters at the end of a reval, often the first people that 
call us for an appointment are those who did not allow an 
inspection. Before we can discuss the new valuation with them, they 
will be required to allow us an interior inspection of the dwelling. 



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I work most days, and return home late. How will my home be 
inspected? 

Our inspectors will make three attempts to inspect, usually arriving 
at different times, on three different days. If, after the first or 
second attempt, they are unable to gain entrance, they will leave a 
card at the door with a telephone number you may call to arrange an 
appointment. 



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How are the valuations done? 

Licensed appraisers review the inspection data and dwelling 
measurements. They then analyze all recent property sales in each 
neighborhood, giving most weight to the sales which occur closest to 
October 1st of the year the reval is conducted. Those sales are used 
to formulate all of the valuations in that specific neighborhood. 



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When will I be notified about my new valuation? 

Once all of 

[AsburyPark] Re: A black eye

2009-01-06 Thread dapawprint
Wow!  I was in the Arcade at the same time and must have still been 
inside when this happened.

Aside from one incident a few years ago, I have never been approached 
in AP for handouts.  I read your post and I wondered why; if I was 
practically in the same place at the same time and wandered all over 
that area, I was not approached.

I may have an answer for that.  When in AP, I almost always have a 
very visible camera either in my hand or on my shoulder.

Take your friends out again, but bring a camera, even if it is 
trash.  Keep it visible and I'll bet that your friends will not be 
approached.  Panhandlers would be wary of having their picture 
taken.  I am sorry that I wasn't able to get a picture for you!

Just a thought,

Glenn

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, theshortsalepro njd...@... 
wrote:

 I've been encouraging my friends to set aside their preconceptions 
 about Asbury Park, and experience First Saturday with limited 
 success.  To force participation, I offered to treat my friends to 
 dinner this past Saturday.  You'll love it!  The merchants are all 
 open late, the sidewalks are alive, we'll usually spot Kevin Quinn 
 playing music, and there is a police presence...
 
 Well, we met in The Arcade on Cookman at about 6PM. We would stroll 
 around and then dine at Raffertys. I lead the way.  No sooner had 
we 
 taken 20 steps out of The Arcade, I glanced back to see my party 
had 
 been approached and then detained by two women (late teens early 
 twenties) who were adamant about their wanting 50 cent from each of 
us.
  
 
 Unfortunately, THAT will be the experience repeated to our friends' 
 friends.






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[AsburyPark] Re: Taxes

2009-01-06 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsh...@... wrote:

 
 Do I have to let the inspector into my house? 
 
 You are not required to allow an inspector to enter your home. 
 However, if you decide not to allow an inspection, you can be sure 
 that your valuation will be substantially higher than it would have 
 been had you allowed the inspection. In fact, after we mail out our 
 valuation letters at the end of a reval, often the first people that 
 call us for an appointment are those who did not allow an 
 inspection. Before we can discuss the new valuation with them, they 
 will be required to allow us an interior inspection of the dwelling. 
 

Bullticky. Only let them in if your house is below average. If you
fixed it up, keep them out.





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[AsburyPark] Re: AP Office Corridor?

2009-01-06 Thread mark0771222
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@... wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote:
 
  At one point, I thought the ideas being floated about an office
 corridor on  
  Cookman close-by sounded pretty good.
   
  Since we are not a major city, does the following make AP more 
or
 less  
  viable?
Vacancy rates in office buildings exceed 10 percent in virtually 
every major city in the country and are rising rapidly, a sign of 
economic distress that could lead to yet another wave of problems for 
troubled lenders
 
 Less viable


I think AP could and should attract many more office space users.  It 
would not necessarily compete with more typical suburban office 
buildings, but would offer attractive alternatives that many smaller 
companies like.  Architectural, design, marketing, publishing, 
advertising, fashion, internet, etc. firms seem like natural fits.  
Small professional services firms (law, accounting, investment, 
mortgage) would probably follow.  Train and road access is good, and 
there is enough vacant land to work out parking issues.  
Entertainment, retail, and residential are all well and good, but 
commercial uses like these could round out the mix.  I think if the 
City and property owners made more of an effort, they could attract 
firms, despite the higher vacancies in other markets. 




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[AsburyPark] Re: A black eye

2009-01-06 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernera...@... wrote:

 
 Telling people not to feed the meters certainly doesn't help, just 
let them do it.
 
 Werner


I normally don't say a word. But it wasn't working.

I even TRIED to HELP him put the money in.

I didn't feel that generous do spend $1 on the credit card. It was 
beeping away.

Let me know where to send the $1 to.






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[AsburyPark] Oak's Ad

2009-01-06 Thread justifiedright
Oak on my website, one of the Google Ads that was generated was a 
click to your website, AsburyBoardwalk.com.

How much do you pay for that?






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[AsburyPark] Re: Taxes

2009-01-06 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@... wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote:
 
  
  Do I have to let the inspector into my house? 
  


miss the appointment.

Keep your house looking like shit on the outside, otherwise - you get 
penalized for having fixed up your house - like driveway, new 
windows, roof, etc - everything is a tack-on.

I'm gonna go for two tax appeals on two little house I have.

700 sq ft, 100x100 lot, $4100
400 sq ft, 50x100 lot, $3300

Both in OT. 

School taxes we actually have to pay (about 93%) vs AP property owner 
pays about 6% (both numbers +/-)







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[AsburyPark] Re: Oak's Ad

2009-01-06 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright 
justifiedri...@... wrote:

 Oak on my website, one of the Google Ads that was generated was a 
 click to your website, AsburyBoardwalk.com.
 
 How much do you pay for that?


Now if I tell you that, it violates Google's Terms and Conditions.

Either that, you might go clicking away and blow my daily budget.

I spent 9 hours that past two days (that's why I'm back in the 
office) going over ad spending, impressions, income etc, placement 
reports...

to see what works, what doesn't and how it may be improved.

Actually, the amount can vary based on whatever Google's up to. But I 
do have a cap on the per click and a cap on the daily spend. More or 
less, the rest is up to Google and when, how often etc.

Nice when it shows, someone sees it, DOESN'T click on it, but 
remembers they saw it then comes directly to the site. 


A quick look at your site and I DON'T want my ad appearing there and 
you shouldn't either - not really related to the content. My guess 
it's picking up on the words Asbury Park..

If you look at your adsense reports (or have whomever is it doing it 
for you) show you some details. 

Give me a call on my cell.






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[AsburyPark] Re: Oak's Ad

2009-01-06 Thread justifiedright
Didn't know the rates were private.

Remember I have two sites.  Yours probably should on the Jersey 
Shore Blog, so it is OK to be there.

That one is growing.  Blog Rank in New Jersey has been in the top 
ten on some days.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright 
 justifiedright@ wrote:
 
  Oak on my website, one of the Google Ads that was generated was 
a 
  click to your website, AsburyBoardwalk.com.
  
  How much do you pay for that?
 
 
 Now if I tell you that, it violates Google's Terms and Conditions.
 
 Either that, you might go clicking away and blow my daily budget.
 
 I spent 9 hours that past two days (that's why I'm back in the 
 office) going over ad spending, impressions, income etc, placement 
 reports...
 
 to see what works, what doesn't and how it may be improved.
 
 Actually, the amount can vary based on whatever Google's up to. 
But I 
 do have a cap on the per click and a cap on the daily spend. More 
or 
 less, the rest is up to Google and when, how often etc.
 
 Nice when it shows, someone sees it, DOESN'T click on it, but 
 remembers they saw it then comes directly to the site. 
 
 
 A quick look at your site and I DON'T want my ad appearing there 
and 
 you shouldn't either - not really related to the content. My guess 
 it's picking up on the words Asbury Park..
 
 If you look at your adsense reports (or have whomever is it doing 
it 
 for you) show you some details. 
 
 Give me a call on my cell.






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[AsburyPark] Re: Oak's Ad

2009-01-06 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright 
justifiedri...@... wrote:

 Didn't know the rates were private.
 
 Remember I have two sites.  Yours probably should on the Jersey 
 Shore Blog, so it is OK to be there.
 

depends if the ad is acted on and what happens after they come over






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