[AsburyPark] Wesley Grove
Some facts about Wesley Grove that folks may find interesting. The design of the complex does not conform to the design intent of the Redevelopment Plan. Recall that there was a diagonal street across that block originally - The plan recommended that it be retained as a public / pedestrian thoroughfare to provide walkability between Cookman and Lake Ave and a neighborhood feel. The plan also specifies that a 'block-face' should incorporate differing architecture to alleviate visual monotony in favor of visual interest and better scale. Neither of those 2 important design criteria were met in the final product. Wesley Lake has been 'walled-off' by a building with homogeneous features. Typical of suburban development. An opportunity has been lost to use important character defining features of Asbury Park in favor of high density construction that is easy to build. The specs of the redevelopment plan were ignored. Note also that Phase 2 (the stump field) will be a replica of Phase 1. I wonder if any residents of Wesley Grove have experienced problems with mold / mildew ? During construction the project was halted and exposed to the elements for a considerable time unprotected from the weather. The exterior sheathing turned black... Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Grove
I wouldn't go as far as to say the design of the stump field will be the same. Just because the foundations are layed out a certain way doesn't mean the building that gets put up has to look or function the same way. The stumps site will almost certainly contain retail on Cookman (too lucrative a location now) and will likely have a different facade design then the current building. The diagonal street grids are a nightmare for planning and design, and those streets didn't do much in terms of pedestrial flow to the lake. If anything, they make the walk to the lake longer but taking you diagonally through the site. The layout now is no different than how the business district of Cookman Ave works, and much less confusion to car traffic and pedestrian flow. As many have said, Wesley Grove's biggest flaw is the lack of retail on Cookman. Sounds like this problem has been realized and will be addressed come time to start building again. I would safely assume at the time it was designed, they didn't feel they would be able to lease enough retail to fill out a block, so they designed without it. Much of Cookman (and the boardwalk) was still vacant at the time and it wouldn't have made sense for them to build retail they couldn't lease. They did place one small retail bay at the corner of Cookman and Heck. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@... wrote: Recall that there was a diagonal street across that block originally - The plan recommended that it be retained as a public / pedestrian thoroughfare to provide walkability between Cookman and Lake Ave and a neighborhood feel. The plan also specifies that a 'block-face' should incorporate differing architecture to alleviate visual monotony in favor of visual interest and better scale. Neither of those 2 important design criteria were met in the final product. Wesley Lake has been 'walled-off' by a building with homogeneous features. Typical of suburban development. An opportunity has been lost to use important character defining features of Asbury Park in favor of high density construction that is easy to build. The specs of the redevelopment plan were ignored. Note also that Phase 2 (the stump field) will be a replica of Phase 1. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Grove
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 acme87rangers@... wrote: As many have said, Wesley Grove's biggest flaw is the lack of retail on Cookman. Sounds like this problem has been realized and will be addressed come time to start building again. I would safely assume at the time it was designed, they didn't feel they would be able to lease enough retail to fill out a block, so they designed without it. Much of Cookman (and the boardwalk) was still vacant at the time and it wouldn't have made sense for them to build retail they couldn't lease. They did place one small retail bay at the corner of Cookman and Heck. Which is why I was adamant on the waterfront redevelopment advisory committee to have a mandatory requirement of a minimum percentage of frontage on Cookman as retail. All wanted pedestrians to be drawn along Cookman to betwixt Downtown and the BW but the mandatory requirement was being fought. Eventually I was able to make the committee see (thanks to Terry) that the only way to ensure some retail on Cookman was to make it mandatory. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Grove
I attended the planning board presentations on the project and Phase 2 is to be a duplicate of Phase 1 except for a retail component along Grand Ave, with different architecture. Hopefully the Phase 2 design will be revisited. My point was that the Redevelopment Plan was largely ignored. A creative design that works with the diagonal cut throughs could have been developed. Yes it would have been more difficult, but having view corridors to the Lake and allowing light and air through the block would have been better than the monolithic barrier that resulted. The intent was not to make them vehicular paths - they were proposed as pedestrian walks with residences fronting on them. Clearly the developers interests are to maximize unit count and develop a repetitive design that can be 'mass-produced' to reduce costs. Hence - the homogeneous facade and duplicated floor plans and site plans. As it is, the Lake Ave side has no interface with the street - all the units face interior court yards. The sidewalks are extremely narrow and the entire look and feel is one of a closed / private development instead of a vibrant part of the City streetscape that encourages outdoor activities and interfaces with the lake. Community centric design that embraces public spaces and natural assets such as the lake would have been a better direction. The Phase 3 (north side of Cookman) proposal was also very poor from a community design perspective - Blank facades facing the street/sidewalk with residential units facing the interior of the block. Certainly the missing retail on Cookman is an issue - the thought at the time was to not compete with the resurgence of downtown as you commented. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 acme87rangers@... wrote: I wouldn't go as far as to say the design of the stump field will be the same. Just because the foundations are layed out a certain way doesn't mean the building that gets put up has to look or function the same way. The stumps site will almost certainly contain retail on Cookman (too lucrative a location now) and will likely have a different facade design then the current building. The diagonal street grids are a nightmare for planning and design, and those streets didn't do much in terms of pedestrial flow to the lake. If anything, they make the walk to the lake longer but taking you diagonally through the site. The layout now is no different than how the business district of Cookman Ave works, and much less confusion to car traffic and pedestrian flow. As many have said, Wesley Grove's biggest flaw is the lack of retail on Cookman. Sounds like this problem has been realized and will be addressed come time to start building again. I would safely assume at the time it was designed, they didn't feel they would be able to lease enough retail to fill out a block, so they designed without it. Much of Cookman (and the boardwalk) was still vacant at the time and it wouldn't have made sense for them to build retail they couldn't lease. They did place one small retail bay at the corner of Cookman and Heck. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Grove
That is good news... The same issue exists for Kingsley Street - The plan currently makes retail optional. Considering that the seasonal weather has such a large effect on Ocean Ave it would be prudent to mandate retail/ entertainment uses along Kingley which is sheltered from the harshness of the oceanfront in the off season. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 acme87rangers@ wrote: As many have said, Wesley Grove's biggest flaw is the lack of retail on Cookman. Sounds like this problem has been realized and will be addressed come time to start building again. I would safely assume at the time it was designed, they didn't feel they would be able to lease enough retail to fill out a block, so they designed without it. Much of Cookman (and the boardwalk) was still vacant at the time and it wouldn't have made sense for them to build retail they couldn't lease. They did place one small retail bay at the corner of Cookman and Heck. Which is why I was adamant on the waterfront redevelopment advisory committee to have a mandatory requirement of a minimum percentage of frontage on Cookman as retail. All wanted pedestrians to be drawn along Cookman to betwixt Downtown and the BW but the mandatory requirement was being fought. Eventually I was able to make the committee see (thanks to Terry) that the only way to ensure some retail on Cookman was to make it mandatory. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Grove
We all love to hate on developers but can we honestly blame them for wanting to maximize the amount they can build? At the time, the compromise to get rid of those streets wound up being a good one because it brought in more ratables than it would have otherwise. The superblock that was created to the north of Phase 1, on the other hand, is terrible planning. I recall that it was recently determined this needed to be broken up come time to develop it. Thankfully those in charge now realize what the right and wrong ways are. As for the stumps, it's almost a gaurantee that a new architect will be brought in to redesign the new building. The types of housing being designed in the early 2000's arent as marketable anymore. Couple that with the need for retail. While the footprint may or may not be the same (perhaps we'll see a similar concept of townhomes to the south, apartments to the north), the design (look, feel, and function) of the building will almost certainly be a different one. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@... wrote: Clearly the developers interests are to maximize unit count and develop a repetitive design that can be 'mass-produced' to reduce costs. Hence - the homogeneous facade and duplicated floor plans and site plans. As it is, the Lake Ave side has no interface with the street - all the units face interior court yards. The sidewalks are extremely narrow and the entire look and feel is one of a closed / private development instead of a vibrant part of the City streetscape that encourages outdoor activities and interfaces with the lake. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Grove
1. Thanks. I dont need more more work. Between my own tenants,internet projects and commercial real estate I'm involved with I've actually been passing leads off. But ill make time. 2. Werner is right as far as the design goes. The city had a architectural review committee. I have pics of the original proposals I think online. You can't compare the two. Look at thevibe concept. The idea for Wesley included brick and walkways. 3. The developers should bird one of the local artists to give Wesley some color. Other than that gold d for those that made investments 4.ratable? Zero tax contribution as an incentive for the developer to maximize and spur development. The benefit is who have people in town supporting. Business adding life etc. There is demand for both affordable retail and housing. By affordable. I mean for the average 2 earner income and single buyer or renter. And last I looked any color has a right to buy. It's a choice where you want to live. Many people of any color choose to live in a place for the same reason. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Grove
1. Thanks. I dont need more more work. Between my own tenants,internet projects and commercial real estate I'm involved with I've actually been passing leads off. But ill make time. 2. Werner is right as far as the design goes. The city had a architectural review committee. I have pics of the original proposals I think online. You can't compare the two. Look at thevibe concept. The idea for Wesley included brick and walkways. 3. The developers should bird one of the local artists to give Wesley some color. Other than that gold d for those that made investments 4.ratable? Zero tax contribution as an incentive for the developer to maximize and spur development. The benefit is who have people in town supporting. Business adding life etc. There is demand for both affordable retail and housing. By affordable. I mean for the average 2 earner income and single buyer or renter. And last I looked any color has a right to buy. It's a choice where you want to live. Many people of any color choose to live in a place for the same reason. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Grove
1. Thanks. I dont need more more work. Between my own tenants,internet projects and commercial real estate I'm involved with I've actually been passing leads off. But ill make time. 2. Werner is right as far as the design goes. The city had a architectural review committee. I have pics of the original proposals I think online. You can't compare the two. Look at thevibe concept. The idea for Wesley included brick and walkways. 3. The developers should bird one of the local artists to give Wesley some color. Other than that gold d for those that made investments 4.ratable? Zero tax contribution as an incentive for the developer to maximize and spur development. The benefit is who have people in town supporting. Business adding life etc. There is demand for both affordable retail and housing. By affordable. I mean for the average 2 earner income and single buyer or renter. And last I looked any color has a right to buy. It's a choice where you want to live. Many people of any color choose to live in a place for the same reason. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Housing authorities
Its about time the housing authorities are regionalized. Its been done so many places. What are thoughts about plans to sell off Boston way. Vs demo and rebuild. What are they worth if they are currently worthless to the authority. If you sell off what will new owner do...maintain demo etc... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Taxes
Its about time property taxes are levels out on two factors.. Square footage and lot size and a factor of market value. Not your house is pretty or you have an extra bathroom or pretty shutters. All one has to do is look around AP. AP has a wide fluctuation for similar properties. Tax appeals now are available through monmouth county web site. If you think you are paying to much look at your tax bill. You'll need some recent sales to make your case. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Taxes
I will shoot you an email soon about this. My 5th Ave property jumped this past year A LOTlots of sales by me in the last 12months Thank you, C. Brian Watkins cbrianwatk...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: oakdorf oakd...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:05:39 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Taxes Its about time property taxes are levels out on two factors.. Square footage and lot size and a factor of market value. Not your house is pretty or you have an extra bathroom or pretty shutters. All one has to do is look around AP. AP has a wide fluctuation for similar properties. Tax appeals now are available through monmouth county web site. If you think you are paying to much look at your tax bill. You'll need some recent sales to make your case. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Taxes
One of the last good streets that was waiting to be bought out. Even I had an offer on a house there... Didn't knock myself out bidding. And your taxes will continue to rise. You will eventually be picking up more and more of the school taxes. Good thing they didn't piss another 45000 on a blue field. At some point enough is enough. I've had three offers in on houses in AP the past year. Out I'd each time and not by much. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: I will shoot you an email soon about this. My 5th Ave property jumped this past year A LOTlots of sales by me in the last 12months Thank you, C. Brian Watkins cbrianwatkins@... -Original Message- From: oakdorf oakdorf@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:05:39 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Taxes Its about time property taxes are levels out on two factors.. Square footage and lot size and a factor of market value. Not your house is pretty or you have an extra bathroom or pretty shutters. All one has to do is look around AP. AP has a wide fluctuation for similar properties. Tax appeals now are available through monmouth county web site. If you think you are paying to much look at your tax bill. You'll need some recent sales to make your case. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Taxes
Be careful, we hired an attorney, had our house appraised and the appraisal
came back higher than the city valued us at.
On Friday, April 13, 2012, oakdorf wrote:
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One of the last good streets that was waiting to be bought out. Even I had
an offer on a house there...
Didn't knock myself out bidding. And your taxes will continue to rise. You
will eventually be picking up more and more of the school taxes. Good thing
they didn't piss another 45000 on a blue field. At some point enough is
enough.
I've had three offers in on houses in AP the past year. Out I'd each time
and not by much.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
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I will shoot you an email soon about this. My 5th Ave property jumped
this past year A LOTlots of sales by me in the last 12months
Thank you,
C. Brian Watkins
cbrianwatkins@...
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Subject: [AsburyPark] Taxes
Its about time property taxes are levels out on two factors..
Square footage and lot size and a factor of market value.
Not your house is pretty or you have an extra bathroom or pretty
shutters.
All one has to do is look around AP. AP has a wide fluctuation for
similar properties. Tax appeals now are available through monmouth county
web site.
If you think you are paying to much look at your tax bill. You'll need
some recent sales to make your case.
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[AsburyPark] Re: Housing authorities
Those will definitely be demolished. The building design is a typical example of the worst type of housing layout. The land is somewhat valuable because of its location near the train station. Would be great to see mixed income housing built there. Affordable, market rate, artist housing, etc. Tie it in with retail along Memorial/Springwood. Could serve as a great anchor for the Springwood Ave Redevelopment and a strong connection to the rest of the community. There are companies that specialize in that type of work. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: Its about time the housing authorities are regionalized. Its been done so many places. What are thoughts about plans to sell off Boston way. Vs demo and rebuild. What are they worth if they are currently worthless to the authority. If you sell off what will new owner do...maintain demo etc... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Taxes
Mistake one. Attorney for most homes. This is dans area...but a good property tax attorney is really good for commercial property. Did you ask the attorney for some history. I did my own a couple years ago and have to do it again. Its time consuming and you get beat up. They tell you just because your house is old and your neigh it is new... You need ammo. In a down market it may work. If you have a nice house and three houses around you were recently sold that are similar to yours...don't bother. You won't win. You need hard facts. Fact is in AP...mist of your homes are undervalued in terms of assessed value. That's a fact St least in my head. And I'm honest and I point that out to the few people that approached me about buying. Nowthat is why it is cheaper to rent sometimes then to buy. Or...buy in Wesley or north beach...support taxes. Still cheaper to rent in those but with prices lower now...spending on your goals..you can buy. Another Wesley grove fact when first concept sales were introduced starting price was around 279000 and up. Right then market went crazy and funny things happened. Doesn't matter. Old boring news. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Housing authorities
Somewhat. Someone has to come in clean off the buildings and not have to go through hoops to rebuild. Whatever money they would get should be put into a special account overseen by s court appointed trustee. Long branch is preparing to demolish another set of apartments...Douglas. but they are rebuilding. Fact...even though they rebuild new units ...many problems still exist. Problems that exist in many homes maybe even yours. I'm a section 8 or voucher landlord as well. So I see the program pretty good. I'm all for regionalization of the housing authorities. If the vouchers may be transferred...so should management. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Taxes
Can you show residential? Or just commerciallooking at a single family on 5th down the street from my 2family. Have no agentwould rather see a good body get the commission Thank you, C. Brian Watkins cbrianwatk...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: oakdorf oakd...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:22:52 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Taxes One of the last good streets that was waiting to be bought out. Even I had an offer on a house there... Didn't knock myself out bidding. And your taxes will continue to rise. You will eventually be picking up more and more of the school taxes. Good thing they didn't piss another 45000 on a blue field. At some point enough is enough. I've had three offers in on houses in AP the past year. Out I'd each time and not by much. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: I will shoot you an email soon about this. My 5th Ave property jumped this past year A LOTlots of sales by me in the last 12months Thank you, C. Brian Watkins cbrianwatkins@... -Original Message- From: oakdorf oakdorf@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:05:39 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Taxes Its about time property taxes are levels out on two factors.. Square footage and lot size and a factor of market value. Not your house is pretty or you have an extra bathroom or pretty shutters. All one has to do is look around AP. AP has a wide fluctuation for similar properties. Tax appeals now are available through monmouth county web site. If you think you are paying to much look at your tax bill. You'll need some recent sales to make your case. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Taxes
Yes. In FL on business but can take of.. back wed it Thurs. Ill email you. I always think 5th is prime. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Taxes
Thank you sir! Thank you, C. Brian Watkins cbrianwatk...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: oakdorf oakd...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:49:31 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Taxes Yes. In FL on business but can take of.. back wed it Thurs. Ill email you. I always think 5th is prime. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] WHAT TO DO WITH BOSTON WAY...........
Give all these useless dregs of society; who have been milking the system dry for decades.vouchersand tell them to get the hell out.And then tear the shit hole down..And you can repeat the same damn process for Lincoln Village.So my dear friend Watkins owns Section 8 bombs...I thought he owned mansions in Rumson, Deal, Sea Girt and Spring Lakeanother slum lord...That's not the way Asbury Park was 50 years ago!..When we got inundated with low income housing the place went to hellI blame Ray Kramer to a large degree.Somehow we became a last ditch charity dumping ground..Have you noticed my dear friendz, the middle class in this country are being wiped out.For Asbury Park to succeed in the long run..we absolutely need to dramatically decrease the 'poor' population in this city.Call it 'Social Darwinism' if you want.but welcome to the real worldWe need to do whatever it takes to make this city work.and the dead wood needs to go.Now what about paving Main Street and building a new Firehouse..Thank you...hossesand now, on to The Empress Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] WHAT TO DO WITH BOSTON WAY...........
And to put it on record... I have never, and will never rent to a Section 8 tenant. Ever see the analysis of Section 8 in Memphis? Do the research on that Get back to me hoss Thank you, C. Brian Watkins cbrianwatk...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: dougthedope12345 dougthedope12...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:45:01 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] WHAT TO DO WITH BOSTON WAY... Give all these useless dregs of society; who have been milking the system dry for decades.vouchersand tell them to get the hell out.And then tear the shit hole down..And you can repeat the same damn process for Lincoln Village.So my dear friend Watkins owns Section 8 bombs...I thought he owned mansions in Rumson, Deal, Sea Girt and Spring Lakeanother slum lord...That's not the way Asbury Park was 50 years ago!..When we got inundated with low income housing the place went to hellI blame Ray Kramer to a large degree.Somehow we became a last ditch charity dumping ground..Have you noticed my dear friendz, the middle class in this country are being wiped out.For Asbury Park to succeed in the long run..we absolutely need to dramatically decrease the 'poor' population in this city.Call it 'Social Darwinism' if you want.but welcome to the real worldWe need to do whatever it takes to make this city work.and the dead wood needs to go.Now what about paving Main Street and building a new Firehouse..Thank you...hossesand now, on to The Empress [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] WHAT TO DO WITH BOSTON WAY...........
excuse me, but under nj state law, you cannot refuse to rent to a sec 8 tenant, this is called the franklin tower decision issued by the nj supreme court In a message dated 4/13/2012 7:27:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cbrianwatk...@gmail.com writes: And to put it on record... I have never, and will never rent to a Section 8 tenant. Ever see the analysis of Section 8 in Memphis? Do the research on that Get back to me hoss Thank you, C. Brian Watkins _cbrianwatkins@gmail.com_ (mailto:cbrianwatk...@gmail.com) -Original Message- From: dougthedope12345 _dougthedope12345@yahoo.com_ (mailto:dougthedope12...@yahoo.com) Sender: _AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:45:01 To: _AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Reply-To: _AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Subject: [AsburyPark] WHAT TO DO WITH BOSTON WAY... Give all these useless dregs of society; who have been milking the system dry for decades.vouchersand tell them to get the hell out.And then tear the shit hole down..And you can repeat the same damn process for Lincoln Village.So my dear friend Watkins owns Section 8 bombs...I thought he owned mansions in Rumson, Deal, Sea Girt and Spring Lakeanother slum lord...That's not the way Asbury Park was 50 years ago!..When we got inundated with low income housing the place went to hellI blame Ray Kramer to a large degree.Somehow we became a last ditch charity dumping ground..Have you noticed my dear friendz, the middle class in this country are being wiped out.For Asbury Park to succeed in the long run..we absolutely need to dramatically decrease the 'poor' population in this city.Call it 'Social Darwinism' if you want.but welcome to the real worldWe need to do whatever it takes to make this city work... ..and the dead wood needs to go.Now what about paving Main Street and building a new Firehouse..Thank you...hossesand now, on to The Empress [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: WHAT TO DO WITH BOSTON WAY...........
I am. Some facts. Some people appreciate the assistance some don't. Some know how to keep a house clean. Some don't. Some who can't think really know the system and how to live 30 years or more off assistance. Some landlords are good others suck. I have five tenants getting assistance. I get about 80 percent of my rent direct. The tenant pays the rest. Some more some less. Not everyone getting help is bad. I'd rather help good people in tough situations vs bailing out someone who overpaid for their house boat and cars and sod. Another fact. Section 8 Inspects each home every year. Called housing quality standards. Landlord could have rent withheld if repairs aren't made. So it's up to inspectors. I've had good luck. And smart tenants. There's programs to turn vouchers to mortgage payments. How many have taken that and run with it. The program has major major flaws for sure. Don't ever say never. You're best friend may come knocking one day with a voucher Or their kid. So you give up a few $ and got a notch higher in he'll. I spent a month cleaning up after a tenant mutually agreed to move With voucher to Florida. Some people know the system. So I hauled her trash and cleaned and cleaned. Schmuck. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: And to put it on record... I have never, and will never rent to a Section 8 tenant. Ever see the analysis of Section 8 in Memphis? Do the research on that Get back to me hoss Thank you, C. Brian Watkins cbrianwatkins@... -Original Message- From: dougthedope12345 dougthedope12345@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:45:01 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] WHAT TO DO WITH BOSTON WAY... Give all these useless dregs of society; who have been milking the system dry for decades.vouchersand tell them to get the hell out.And then tear the shit hole down..And you can repeat the same damn process for Lincoln Village.So my dear friend Watkins owns Section 8 bombs...I thought he owned mansions in Rumson, Deal, Sea Girt and Spring Lakeanother slum lord...That's not the way Asbury Park was 50 years ago!..When we got inundated with low income housing the place went to hellI blame Ray Kramer to a large degree.Somehow we became a last ditch charity dumping ground..Have you noticed my dear friendz, the middle class in this country are being wiped out.For Asbury Park to succeed in the long run..we absolutely need to dramatically decrease the 'poor' population in this city.Call it 'Social Darwinism' if you want.but welcome to the real worldWe need to do whatever it takes to make this city work.and the dead wood needs to go.Now what about paving Main Street and building a new Firehouse..Thank you...hossesand now, on to The Empress [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: WHAT TO DO WITH BOSTON WAY...........
You can make a credit decision that applies to all tenants. Section 8 rents counts as income... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburysteve@... wrote: excuse me, but under nj state law, you cannot refuse to rent to a sec 8 tenant, this is called the franklin tower decision issued by the nj supreme court In a message dated 4/13/2012 7:27:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cbrianwatkins@... writes: And to put it on record... I have never, and will never rent to a Section 8 tenant. Ever see the analysis of Section 8 in Memphis? Do the research on that Get back to me hoss Thank you, C. Brian Watkins _cbrianwatkins@..._ (mailto:cbrianwatkins@...) -Original Message- From: dougthedope12345 _dougthedope12345@..._ (mailto:dougthedope12345@...) Sender: _AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:45:01 To: _AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Reply-To: _AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Subject: [AsburyPark] WHAT TO DO WITH BOSTON WAY... Give all these useless dregs of society; who have been milking the system dry for decades.vouchersand tell them to get the hell out.And then tear the shit hole down..And you can repeat the same damn process for Lincoln Village.So my dear friend Watkins owns Section 8 bombs...I thought he owned mansions in Rumson, Deal, Sea Girt and Spring Lakeanother slum lord...That's not the way Asbury Park was 50 years ago!..When we got inundated with low income housing the place went to hellI blame Ray Kramer to a large degree.Somehow we became a last ditch charity dumping ground..Have you noticed my dear friendz, the middle class in this country are being wiped out.For Asbury Park to succeed in the long run..we absolutely need to dramatically decrease the 'poor' population in this city.Call it 'Social Darwinism' if you want.but welcome to the real worldWe need to do whatever it takes to make this city work... ..and the dead wood needs to go.Now what about paving Main Street and building a new Firehouse..Thank you...hossesand now, on to The Empress [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: WHAT TO DO WITH BOSTON WAY...........
I wish my other two tenants got assistance. I'm trying to help them. I'm tired of being their banker. I have my own bills to pay as well as theirs --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: You can make a credit decision that applies to all tenants. Section 8 rents counts as income... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburysteve@ wrote: excuse me, but under nj state law, you cannot refuse to rent to a sec 8 tenant, this is called the franklin tower decision issued by the nj supreme court In a message dated 4/13/2012 7:27:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cbrianwatkins@ writes: And to put it on record... I have never, and will never rent to a Section 8 tenant. Ever see the analysis of Section 8 in Memphis? Do the research on that Get back to me hoss Thank you, C. Brian Watkins _cbrianwatkins@_ (mailto:cbrianwatkins@) -Original Message- From: dougthedope12345 _dougthedope12345@_ (mailto:dougthedope12345@) Sender: _AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:45:01 To: _AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Reply-To: _AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Subject: [AsburyPark] WHAT TO DO WITH BOSTON WAY... Give all these useless dregs of society; who have been milking the system dry for decades.vouchersand tell them to get the hell out.And then tear the shit hole down..And you can repeat the same damn process for Lincoln Village.So my dear friend Watkins owns Section 8 bombs...I thought he owned mansions in Rumson, Deal, Sea Girt and Spring Lakeanother slum lord...That's not the way Asbury Park was 50 years ago!..When we got inundated with low income housing the place went to hellI blame Ray Kramer to a large degree.Somehow we became a last ditch charity dumping ground..Have you noticed my dear friendz, the middle class in this country are being wiped out.For Asbury Park to succeed in the long run..we absolutely need to dramatically decrease the 'poor' population in this city.Call it 'Social Darwinism' if you want.but welcome to the real worldWe need to do whatever it takes to make this city work... ..and the dead wood needs to go.Now what about paving Main Street and building a new Firehouse..Thank you...hossesand now, on to The Empress [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: WHAT TO DO WITH BOSTON WAY...........
Owner occupied rules differ --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: I wish my other two tenants got assistance. I'm trying to help them. I'm tired of being their banker. I have my own bills to pay as well as theirs --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: You can make a credit decision that applies to all tenants. Section 8 rents counts as income... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburysteve@ wrote: excuse me, but under nj state law, you cannot refuse to rent to a sec 8 tenant, this is called the franklin tower decision issued by the nj supreme court In a message dated 4/13/2012 7:27:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cbrianwatkins@ writes: And to put it on record... I have never, and will never rent to a Section 8 tenant. Ever see the analysis of Section 8 in Memphis? Do the research on that Get back to me hoss Thank you, C. Brian Watkins _cbrianwatkins@_ (mailto:cbrianwatkins@) -Original Message- From: dougthedope12345 _dougthedope12345@_ (mailto:dougthedope12345@) Sender: _AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:45:01 To: _AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Reply-To: _AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Subject: [AsburyPark] WHAT TO DO WITH BOSTON WAY... Give all these useless dregs of society; who have been milking the system dry for decades.vouchersand tell them to get the hell out.And then tear the shit hole down..And you can repeat the same damn process for Lincoln Village.So my dear friend Watkins owns Section 8 bombs...I thought he owned mansions in Rumson, Deal, Sea Girt and Spring Lakeanother slum lord...That's not the way Asbury Park was 50 years ago!..When we got inundated with low income housing the place went to hellI blame Ray Kramer to a large degree.Somehow we became a last ditch charity dumping ground..Have you noticed my dear friendz, the middle class in this country are being wiped out.For Asbury Park to succeed in the long run..we absolutely need to dramatically decrease the 'poor' population in this city.Call it 'Social Darwinism' if you want.but welcome to the real worldWe need to do whatever it takes to make this city work... ..and the dead wood needs to go.Now what about paving Main Street and building a new Firehouse..Thank you...hossesand now, on to The Empress [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] BEFORE I HEAD TO THE EMPRESS...AND I DO FEEL LUCKY.......
Let me say this.fuck slumlordsThe absolute worst thing that ever happened in Asbury Park was allowing property owners of magnificent stately homes...to chop them up into MDU'sMultiple dwelling units.They should have been shotThey should have remained single family homes!Disgusting!!!I would like to see our code enforcement staff go after these landlords with avengance.And if so much as one light bulb is out.fine the shit out of themMake their lives so miserable they sell...and leave.And turn them back into single homes...Crush them, and any other other property owner not maintaining their asset!The USA is falling apart...the party is overWE CAN'T SAVE EVERYONE!!!I do know good landlords...and they spend half their time in court chancing assholes who play the system and have no intention of paying rentConcerning Memphis...home of Sun RecordsI have been on Beale Street several timesMemphis is a dump!!!...You can buy a mansion, on a one acre corner lot, with an inground swimming poolfor less than $300,000That was 5 years ago!!!Probably much lower nowlook at Detroit!!!...The south is a mess..look at Atlanta...South Florida and many other areasDeadTime to take the gloves off friendz...If ya wanna save Asbury Parkya gotta a shitload of deadwood to chase out...I've had enough.35 years of this garbage is too muchI subscribe to the social concepts of Dr. William Cosby.a brilliant artist and one of the world's most famed men...you may know him as 'Bill.'...Read what he has to say And I want want to hear from any bleeding heart liberals.I comment Oakdorf and Watkins for their honest efforts..And I don't give a damn who gets mad at mejust read what I have to say...and analyze it for yourselves.Boy, I hope I get lucky!!! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: WHAT TO DO WITH BOSTON WAY...........
NJ. About 108 housing agencies plus all the rest. Rentlaw.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: BEFORE I HEAD TO THE EMPRESS...AND I DO FEEL LUCKY.......
There's been great coverage of his housing voucher recipient's are now taken up residence in once gated communities...with their own swimming pool etc bought on my the foreclosure crisis...think it was a 60 minute story. Removing housing stock by demolishing the old projects is an effort to mainstream tenants via the voucher idea. In twenty five years overall...my non section 8 tenants have been equal or worse. My best tenants...those that rented and never moved in but paid rent. My guess is the schools...then. Landlording sucks unless you have what it takes. And bought right..as in low to cover. Taxes will never go down. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dougthedope12345 dougthedope12345@... wrote: Let me say this.fuck slumlordsThe absolute worst thing that ever happened in Asbury Park was allowing property owners of magnificent stately homes...to chop them up into MDU'sMultiple dwelling units.They should have been shotThey should have remained single family homes!Disgusting!!!I would like to see our code enforcement staff go after these landlords with avengance.And if so much as one light bulb is out.fine the shit out of themMake their lives so miserable they sell...and leave.And turn them back into single homes...Crush them, and any other other property owner not maintaining their asset!The USA is falling apart...the party is overWE CAN'T SAVE EVERYONE!!!I do know good landlords...and they spend half their time in court chancing assholes who play the system and have no intention of paying rentConcerning Memphis...home of Sun RecordsI have been on Beale Street several timesMemphis is a dump!!!...You can buy a mansion, on a one acre corner lot, with an inground swimming poolfor less than $300,000That was 5 years ago!!!Probably much lower nowlook at Detroit!!!...The south is a mess..look at Atlanta...South Florida and many other areasDeadTime to take the gloves off friendz...If ya wanna save Asbury Parkya gotta a shitload of deadwood to chase out...I've had enough.35 years of this garbage is too muchI subscribe to the social concepts of Dr. William Cosby.a brilliant artist and one of the world's most famed men...you may know him as 'Bill.'...Read what he has to say And I want want to hear from any bleeding heart liberals.I comment Oakdorf and Watkins for their honest efforts..And I don't give a damn who gets mad at mejust read what I have to say...and analyze it for yourselves.Boy, I hope I get lucky!!! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: BEFORE I HEAD TO THE EMPRESS...AND I DO FEEL LUCKY.......
Years of closed eyes. Ocean township is now charging landlord 150 for a co inspection for a house 100 for apartment. Then 150 for something new..landlord registration statement which is required by the stateor 75 for a renewal annually.new. ha. All I said when they told me. Ha. Then 35 for. Fire inspection. Never complain about giving fire department a fee. Takes balls. AP should look at fees. It really won't deter landlords. Inspection's do. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Lastly..reason
Why griffin mercury Esperanza nj gas and many other buildings now workbankruptcy. Add in the Esperanza site all the engineering and foundation work for less then a quarter amount of actual costs. Merc a third. Failure paves the way for successful development. Stealing a pair of sneakers...jail. Failing in planning development means bankruptcy and moving on to your next project. Metro homes even sold their ground floor office in asbury Grande. No jail for whatever his name was. But the kid in AP who fails...another story. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
