Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Official!
Are you a human resources employee of any large company? My guess is you not because they are actually trying to lobby for the change. It is not fair to any person who is Qualified for a position, to lose it to s stat hire to fill a quota. It is not fair to a company to have to waste money to fill shoes. It is not fair to America and its Economy to have this excess $ waste $. It should be changed back to Qualifications to fill a position. I am not racist in this I actually know 23 people that are the head of Human resources in 23 different companies that say this. For the record the are not Caucasian. From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 8:40:31 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Official! Guess who benefitted from Affirmative Action? White women and Asians! Blacks can barely get a promotion or job, because these 2 groups ride on our backs, oh and also West Indians that look Black but when tell you in a New York minute, that THEY have a country, be it Haiti, Jamaica or Trinidad, by way of Brooklyn! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Really It Is NOT. It is very serious. The Racism situation is up to Obama now. He has to declare everyone as equal. Obama has to get rid of Affirmative Action. If he does that then he will be famous for Equality. If he does nothing including addressing any racist group actions , then he will be known as a RACIST. _ _ __ From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 7:32:02 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Official! Yeah. Racism is hysterical. Ha. Ha. On Nov 6, 2008, at 5:56 AM, Rock Musician wrote: Well first ting Obama be doin, be intraduecin Ghettonomicsto merica. Plan be dis 1) learn how to fist... man you aint noin where the mans hand was bifore you be shackin it so fist it. 2) Tax everybody .. ya know i be here now so fuc~ everybody just tax da shit outta anyone workin. 3) give the money to my illegal aunt an her friends. 4) get da rest of da money to my terrorist budies. 5) get the terrorists the locations of all merican nuc weapons sites. 6) dis arm Mericans, to make a takeover easyier. 7) teach any hard worker to bend over and give his or her backdoor away to anyone i say. 8) start advertizin for da new Merican language. somin like dis ... And you to can learn to read my new plan for Merica. Just send check or money order to Bamaphonics . unless you be on welfare den you get it for free das right free. Well, Can we joke around or its this going to offend someone. Really its only a kiddding lighten up fun. _ _ __ From: oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:23:11 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Official! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: That's ridiculous. From what I understand, that money is going to be used to improve healthcare, improve our energy independence and responsibility, fix our broken education systems and on and on. . Let's get back to Asbury Park related topics. money does not fix a broken education system (all the time) There. That's Asbury related. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija?
To be a Governer in Alaska is the highest level in the nation. The Governer of Alaska is not just a governer. The are givin one of the Highist security clearences in the USA. They have information givin to them every 3 hours on National security. Alaska is the last state on the nuclear strike list for America. They have to be able to respond incase of a nuclear strike. There is no other Governer in the United States of America that is givin this clearence. The governers of 3 major cities in the country are givin basic clearence which means nothing and the rest of them are not givin anything in security clearence. To get the clearence she has you have to be trained and your background check has to be clean. Unlike some other shit voted in. She is excellent at what she does. She would have done what had to be done with securing our borders. I cant say much for the new group thats in now. I dont think they are interested in security. But I am hoping that I am wrong. sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 8:07:41 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija? John, That, in essence, is what I was saying! Between Joe the plumber, her inability to name one newspaper that she possibly reads, not knowing 3 Supreme Court decisions and other information ordinary citizens like me can just rattle off, has the NERVE to be the Governor? Makes you wonder what the criteria for Governor is, up there! Empty suit and empty head! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... wrote: I saw her go rouge, lavender and beige. It didn't help. She's an empty suit dress. On Nov 6, 2008, at 2:12 PM, justifiedright wrote: I have to agree Dan. What was attracting people to Obama was a positive message of hope (leave aside that no one knows how that translates to policy). Hope was carrying the day. I thought right away to combat hope with negativity was the wrong way to go. It was also contrary to what has worked for McCain over the years. I'd give anything to switch careers and go in to political consulting. McCain needed to craft his own hopeful message with a bit of policy sprinkled in. Not that I would have ignored the Ayers issue. Ayers did the same thing Bin Laden did. You just couldn't win with that as priority one at this moment in time. Were it November 4, 2002, 2003 or 2004 perhaps. Once the Market crashed on September 15 McCain needed to talk about nothing but money. Whomever is punching Palin in the nose today from the McCain camp should never be hired again. Even if anything they said was true, you take that sort of thing to the grave. You never turn on the guy you were working for. I don't think anything they are saying about Palin is true anyway. It was clear in every speech she was on the message they put her on. I saw her go rouge once when she disagreed about the Michigan pullout. She was right. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: We don't loathe them! They're both Dumb and Dumber! She IS a pig wearing lipstick and he's just a PIG! Palin is a woman. Somehow, she made it to the top. Somehow, she can't be a total idiot. I don't think she is an idiot at all. I think she is cunning and a tough politician. I disagree with her politics and personal choices of how she campaigns. She is certainly getting the short end of the stick from the McCain campaign. He chose her but they are now blaming her for their loss. It was McCain's campaign to lose and he did. But my problem with her and McCain is the negative tone of their campaign. Each of us makes a personal choice. Theirs was to listen to the Rove and Bush people that parchuted into their campaign. They are out again and don't give two hoots about Palin or McCain. even hear that it was Palin's own idea to go after the AYers thing. Shame on them all. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Let's liberate this group from political talk, and get back to AP
Now I though this was a clean site . Get outta Jack will you. Ha Ha Ha Ha From: Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:30:15 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Let's liberate this group from political talk, and get back to AP I'm in Jack. You are right. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not going to post any more political comments here, instead, i'll keep them in AP Politics. Mike, you are no longer banned there. I removed that about 10 days ago. I suggest we move all of our political conversations there, and let this group get back to normal. Who's with me? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Bye
They better open ... come the new year they will be outta business. From: Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:26:44 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Bye Don't leave now the new Outlet stores open next week. --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: [AsburyPark] Bye To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 3:40 PM After the past week or so on this list, I don't think we need to spend any more of our liberal, tolerant, interracial tourist money in AP. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Bye
Dam ... That was fast I didnt think the withdrawal for asbury reconstruction would happen till the new year. From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 5:34:17 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Bye Ouch. On Nov 4, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Tracy wrote: After the past week or so on this list, I don't think we need to spend any more of our liberal, tolerant, interracial tourist money in AP. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Official!
Well starting now I only work or play for cash. No checks, money orders, or Credit cards for me. I am goin on the line to get free money. From: Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 2:06:55 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Official! Yes I agree with Jack. You must bury your opinions because freedom of speech will soon be gone from the American landscape. Hand over what you have to the government so that less fotunate can hang out on your dime. --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Official! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 10:39 AM Hey Rock Musician I'm also a Rock Musician and you are embarassing your namesake. America has a president now. You need to get over your fear and hatred, and either be part of America or go crawl into a hole somewhere. America needs to be united right now, this very second. Your posts are just plain ignorant, and pointless. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... wrote: America hasn't had one for the last eight years. This one was ACTUALLY ELECTED. OVERWHELMINGLY. P. S.: Why do you hate America? On Nov 5, 2008, at 5:13 AM, Rock Musician wrote: The truth arrives ... America does not have a president. ... _ _ __ From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 12:08:32 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Official! ... then fall in line behind the winner. We'll see, but, very doubtful from your clan. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Let's liberate this group from political talk, and get back to AP
Me either By nthe way the Super Bowl will be delayed for 4 hours for the next 4 yrs, due to obambie wants to speak.Ha Ha Ha Ha From: justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 5:29:12 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Let's liberate this group from political talk, and get back to AP --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not going to post any more political comments here, instead, i'll keep them in AP Politics. Mike, you are no longer banned there. I removed that about 10 days ago. That there is one reason why I won't go to that group. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Official!
I was just Venting I do appogize to all. After all I am an American. From: Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 2:06:55 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Official! Yes I agree with Jack. You must bury your opinions because freedom of speech will soon be gone from the American landscape. Hand over what you have to the government so that less fotunate can hang out on your dime. --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Official! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 10:39 AM Hey Rock Musician I'm also a Rock Musician and you are embarassing your namesake. America has a president now. You need to get over your fear and hatred, and either be part of America or go crawl into a hole somewhere. America needs to be united right now, this very second. Your posts are just plain ignorant, and pointless. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... wrote: America hasn't had one for the last eight years. This one was ACTUALLY ELECTED. OVERWHELMINGLY. P. S.: Why do you hate America? On Nov 5, 2008, at 5:13 AM, Rock Musician wrote: The truth arrives ... America does not have a president. ... _ _ __ From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 12:08:32 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Official! ... then fall in line behind the winner. We'll see, but, very doubtful from your clan. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Official!
Well first ting Obama be doin, be intraduecin Ghettonomicsto merica. Plan be dis 1) learn how to fist... man you aint noin where the mans hand was bifore you be shackin it so fist it. 2) Tax everybody .. ya know i be here now so fuc~ everybody just tax da shit outta anyone workin. 3) give the money to my illegal aunt an her friends. 4) get da rest of da money to my terrorist budies. 5) get the terrorists the locations of all merican nuc weapons sites. 6) dis arm Mericans, to make a takeover easyier. 7) teach any hard worker to bend over and give his or her backdoor away to anyone i say. 8) start advertizin for da new Merican language. somin like dis ... And you to can learn to read my new plan for Merica. Just send check or money order to Bamaphonics . unless you be on welfare den you get it for free das right free. Well, Can we joke around or its this going to offend someone. Really its only a kiddding lighten up fun. From: oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:23:11 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Official! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's ridiculous. From what I understand, that money is going to be used to improve healthcare, improve our energy independence and responsibility, fix our broken education systems and on and on. . Let's get back to Asbury Park related topics. money does not fix a broken education system (all the time) There. That's Asbury related. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Official!
The truth arrives ... America does not have a president. ... From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 12:08:32 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Official! ... then fall in line behind the winner. We'll see, but, very doubtful from your clan. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Electoral Vote Updates
At the end of 4 years we will see who is rejoycing. From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 12:03:27 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Electoral Vote Updates HAHAHAHAHA! On Nov 4, 2008, at 9:07 PM, justifiedright wrote: O up 175 to 70. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ ... wrote: O up 103 to 58, but Mac winning popular vote by 3K [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Obama's Birth Certificate Verified
The sadist thing here is, Now there will not be any questions answered. The actions taken will be just done weather you like it or not. From: justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:27:20 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Obama's Birth Certificate Verified --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ wrote: Well to be honest I don't care what you think. No love lost here - racist. Watch that video again with Obama and JTP. Going after him? McCain is the one who brought the press to his door. JTP is an asshole and a fraud. Aw, c'mon bro! Poor Joe asked a question of a candidate that came to his town. It was Obama's answer that led to folks on the McCain side to make it big. Joe shouldn't have suffered government employees digging for dirt on him, because again it wasn't his question that caused the stir, it was the answer. You don't want folks to not ask questions. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Police Remove Billiclub Panters
Obamas first speech will be ..I am pulling us out of Iraq and afganistan because we are going to Kenya. They need our help. By the way that TAX [EMAIL PROTECTED] I fed you I lied. I want to tax everyone 95% no... Give me all your money. Biladin needs it in the fonney ORG. accounts that he has in america. Now Thats A VICTIM From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 5:20:04 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Police Remove Billiclub Panters VICTIM! On Nov 4, 2008, at 4:55 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man, it's obvious that you are a lawyer who refused to admit any wrong doing, always. Personalizing. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Obama's Birth Certificate Verified
AGREE From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 5:19:35 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Obama's Birth Certificate Verified --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: I am married to a minority woman who feels the same way I do about freebies. Perhaps you are the racist a ghetto is where poor people are forced to live. Poor or old white people couldn't possibly be from a neighborhood like that. I grew up in the equivalent of a ghetto and got the hell out. In 1516, 700 Jews were forced to move to this then-remote northwestern corner of Venice, to an abandoned site of a 14th-century foundry (ghetto is old Venetian dialect for foundry, a word that would soon be used throughout Europe and the world to depict isolated minority groups). Check your posts over time. How many times have you mentioned blacks etc. etc. I don't care if you are married to Winnie Mandela. Your posts reveal your racism. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Obama's Birth Certificate Verified
Obama's Ghettonomics . I love it ! From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 5:19:32 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Obama's Birth Certificate Verified No. We just have to pay for the hand outs the list of loser banking CEO are about to get. I call it Bush's Wall Street Welfare. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: No we just have to pay for the hand outs the list of losers are about to get. I call them Obama's Ghettonomics . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Obama's Birth Certificate Verified
What happened to Joe will soon happen to you. It is so sad that Americas are so stupid, selfish, and fat that they cant see beyond their nose. I say it now on the record You have no idea what your in for. Forget about rebuilding Asbury because you will have no oney to spend on it. TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, Govenmen Control, TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, TAXES, Depression. This reminds me of before the Trade Center Attack when people said ..Oh they will never attack America. Then it happened and Americans wanted to blame the government and they did. Now whos to blame, The warning was sent out to you. Americans did not listen, so its on their shoulders now. The terroists won, they infultraited the USA from within. Good thing this election was about being Black... At least the BLACK PANTHERS, and other people Think so. Vented I feel better now. From: justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 8:11:10 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Obama's Birth Certificate Verified --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Aw, c'mon bro! Poor Joe asked a question of a candidate that came to his town. It was Obama's answer that led to folks on the McCain side to make it big. Joe shouldn't have suffered government employees digging for dirt on him, because again it wasn't his question that caused the stir, it was the answer. You don't want folks to not ask questions. Had Mac not made him the lynchpin of his campaign no one would have given JTP a second thought. It is Mac that brought attention to him, and the asshole himself. What makes Joe an asshole? I really don't know what he did to deserve that. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Obama's Birth Certificate Verified
Last week Obama went to see grandma to say goodbye. She was as good as dead when she said Obama was born in Indonesia. Makes sense to get rid of baggage that can ruin his election. He is ruthless and I would not put itr past him, after all how can you not know your illegle aunt was living in poverty in the US. Well thats why he wants your tax money so you can pay her. If he wins I will never ever call him the President of the US. I will never egknowledge Obama as an American. If he screws up the country with war I will never defend any people that voted for him. From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 11:34:22 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Obama's Birth Certificate Verified Bad timing with a rushing off to hawaii accusation. May everyone in an opposite political party make light of the death of a beloved family member of yours. On Nov 3, 2008, at 11:22 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ ... wrote: So that's why Obama had to Rush off to Hawaii last week! Oh tommy, your sore loser is showing. is no one in your life authentic and therefore it is impossible to recognize authenticity? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Obama's Birth Certificate Verified
Will see who sucks if he gets in. From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 7:19:39 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Obama's Birth Certificate Verified You suck --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Last week Obama went to see grandma to say goodbye. She was as good as dead when she said Obama was born in Indonesia. Makes sense to get rid of baggage that can ruin his election. He is ruthless and I would not put itr past him, after all how can you not know your illegle aunt was living in poverty in the US. Well thats why he wants your tax money so you can pay her. If he wins I will never ever call him the President of the US. I will never egknowledge Obama as an American. If he screws up the country with war I will never defend any people that voted for him. _ _ __ From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 11:34:22 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Obama's Birth Certificate Verified Bad timing with a rushing off to hawaii accusation. May everyone in an opposite political party make light of the death of a beloved family member of yours. On Nov 3, 2008, at 11:22 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ ... wrote: So that's why Obama had to Rush off to Hawaii last week! Oh tommy, your sore loser is showing. is no one in your life authentic and therefore it is impossible to recognize authenticity? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] after voting....dinner and a movie
I would just pack it in Asbury is finished if Obama gets in . Asbury and its people will be paying so much taxes that there will not be anything left to finish the town. So bring back the homeless and the recovering wacks again but this time it will be great for them. Asbury was half rebuilt and they will have money for more drugs and booze. Thanks to tax payers. From: jandlinap [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 8:31:21 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] after votingdinner and a movie Restaurant Plan B and Paranormal Books on Cookman Ave want to remind you to go out and vote... Then Plan to come to Plan B...enjoy our Prix Fixe Menu 4 courses for 25.00 and then free movie and popcorn at Paranormal Books... Hope to see you tuesday night... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Obama's Birth Certificate Verified
Its a fake... Grandmas dead now .there is no other evidence . for Now. From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 11:48:20 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Obama's Birth Certificate Verified Obama's Birth Certificate Verified by DAVID KNOWLES NOV 3RD 2008 9:32AM One of the stranger stories to come out of this year's election was the widely e-mailed claim that Barack Obama was ineligible to run for president because he was not actually born on U.S. soil. Our constitution, you see, requires that our presidents be natural-born citizens. John McCain, of course, was born in Panama, though, because that event took place on a U.S. military base, it passes constitutional muster. The unfounded, conspiratorial charge that Obama was hiding his birth certificate got a whole lot of people who were already upset at Obama even more upset. Call it the bitter icing on the bitter cake. These folks screaming about the birth certificate are the same ones who believe that we don't know the real Obama. Obama's campaign released copies of the birth certificate to the media, but that wasn't good enough for the lunatic fringe. After all, the campaign might have doctored the copies! So, all across the country crazy people started filing lawsuits to get the state of Hawai'i to break its own laws and show off the original document. What always astonished me about this story was the notion that a guy would go through this whole process--two years of non-stop campaigning and the endless scrutiny it entails--if he knew that he could be knocked out of the race on a simple technicality. Well, on Friday, the Director of Hawaii's Department of Health, Dr. Chimoye Fukino, finally got tired of listening to ridiculous chorus coming from McCain/Palin supporters and he went to personally inspect the original birth certificate. Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate. Therefore, I as Director for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures, Fukino said. Fukino said that no state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's certificate be handled differently from any other. Will this satisfy the skeptics out there in McCain-land? Of course not. I mean, really, Chimoye Fukino? What kind of name is that? Sounds even worse than Barack Hussein Obama. No, no, they'll tell you. Something's fishy. Isn't it suspect that Obama's grandmother just happened to break her hip and get sick just as this latest in a seemingly never-ending series of bogus lawsuits was running its course? No, something nefarious is lurking just under the surface. If it takes the Palin/McCain mob the next eight years to find it, by golly, they will. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place!
I agree. From: Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 5:53:58 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place! Complexity? Stealing from one side to give to another? Seems pretty simple to me. Electing a president with no past or birth certificate for that matter. If he is elected it will save me hundreds of dollars a year. It will be the end all charitable contributions let the socialist government take care of everything and everyone. Since he hates the American flag it won't be in front of my house while he is in there. He will never represent me and when the country is attacked, challenged, blown up by a foreign power let it be. If it was predicted by Joe Biden you know it has to be true. Jump on the bandwagon, check you brain at the door, and get ready for a depression. I will agree there will be change. Big change and the obesity epidemic we have will be gone by the time he gets swept out of office. --- On Sun, 11/2/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:41 PM In a message dated 11/2/2008 3:02:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gabrielleobre@ yahoo.com writes: Once again we are seeing the inability of the reactionary right to comprehend complexity and nuance. = = === Then again, there's the Audacity of Hope in this list, notable Republican and conservative support for Barack Obama in 2008 at http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Obama_Republican which is more revealing than the huge list here : http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Obama_endorsemen ts McCain could have chosen from among many highly qualified candidates to run with, but he chose to pander to that sliver of reactionaries (Palin's base now) for whom Bloomberg, Lieberman (Jews), and Romney (a Mormon), for example, were not acceptable. Maverick? So from among five women finalists (Meg Whitman, the former chief executive of eBay; Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice; Carleton Fiorina, the former chief executive of Hewlett-Packard; Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, Republican of Texas; and Sarah Palin), he chose Palin. Country first? **Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 10075x121241 6248x1200771803/ aol?redir= http://travel. aol.com/discount -travel?ncid= emlcntustrav 0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place!
Does anyone know the % of tax's paid now by the different levels of income. please feel free to educate me. From: Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 6:13:37 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place! We dont need socialized medecine or to be taxed to pay 40% of people who dont pay taxes. that is what Obama is about. Why give the goverment our money so they can spead it around, Like buying 65k toilet seats. During the Clinton yrs the Dems bought them to replace the ones from the Rep Pres that served before him. Either way the gov. will waste more $$ than it is worth. Why give $$ it to them. Oh I know why . People have had it too good in this country. They dont know what Bad is untill it happens. Now that is the truth of an Obama Voter. _ _ __ From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 10:14:08 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place! No he's not. You can easily find things in the Bush world that can be called socialist. You can call the bailout socialist. McCain presents ideas that can be viewed as socialist. So, there you go, jumping on the buzzword of the moment bandwagon. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: Not for nothing but can't any of you people think for yourselves? Obama is a Socialist. --- On Sat, 11/1/08, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:42 PM I think the bigger problem is that we live our lives via soundbytes that we hear on TV. We have dumbed ourselves down to the point where a 10 to 60 second piece of information is all we need to form an opinion. If you like FOX news, and you hear somebody say Obama is a socialist then you believe it. There's also a big problem, in my opinion, with the overabundance of 24/7 news outlets. I believe that people are dumbed down to the point of not realizing that most, if not all have an agenda, and are being used for propaganda. MSNBC's morning shows tend to favor McCain just like FOX. They all have some kind of agenda, although I find CNN and BBC to be the least partisan. We also tend to let others do the thinking for us. We sit our asses on our couches and let others tell us what's right and wrong. Our own desire to create a convenient lifestyle is part of our downfall. It shows up in our waist bands as well as our knowledge of the world. And, it's no wonder that our kids test scores are low compared to the rest of the world, because entire generations have been raised on soundbytes and distractions. Kids in America who are doing their homework on computers are constantly distracted by text messages, IMs, Facebook, myspace and on and on. And when they aren't doing that, they are watching TV that brings them the world in a face paced edited way. I recently heard a report on NPR in which a worldwide study was done to see if multitasking helps, or hurts kids. Overwhelmingly the conclusion is that it hurts them, because it doesn't allow connections to be made or acquired knowledge to sink in. But kids think they are better and smarter because they can multitask, which is a false idea. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ ... wrote: Even if they don't stoke it, they benefit from it. This kind of behavior happens at all levels. Women/girls do it to one another all the time through gossip. The first time I recall an example..Sonya doesn't wear underwear! in like third grade. A woman in an Asbury bar last week said to me But Obama is an Arab and we are fighting Arabs. Another said Isn't it true he has NEVER really worked. Americans loathe thinking for some reason. Its on both sides. And we love to think we are separate from others. We also stop being open to growth and discovery as adults and therefore repeat obvious untruths, like Obama is a Socialist. Mike still thinks so bless his heart. Its a problem of consciousness. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: I don't think McCain or Palin have personally fueled the racist fire, but some of their supporters definitely have. I also applaud McCain for confronting people at his events that have suggested that Obama is a Muslim. To that point, it really disturbs me about how many Americans got caught up in the Muslim rhetoric, and furthermore, it's terrible that in doing so, it branded the whole Muslim religion as bad for those who wish to think so, which is a horrible thing for our citizens to to. I bet a vast majority of these people
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place!
Obama has pushed a campaign that says CHANGE. He has different Tax numbers as he talks throughout the campaign. 250K,200k,150k,42k. But know one catches it because they refuse to open their mind buy watching all news channels. I watch them all and Fox News promotes both sides with speakers from both sides. No other channel does this constantly every hour. If anyone condemns a news channel and does not WATCH IT AND LISTEN, then they only want to hear what they want to hear. That is not a knowledgeable voter. That is not intelligent. Instead of thinking , they just want to fight. That is what Obama wants. From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 10:12:18 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place! Obviously, you just skimmed, because you missed when I wrote this ...only to come home to a country where racism is alive and well, and that includes things said by the Rev. Wright, but, for me, it's easy to see where his brand of racism came from... I also maintain that much of the hatred for Rev. Wright comes from soundbytes. Yes, he sad bad things, but they are isolated pieces. Believe it or not, if you listen to his sermons in their entirety, which you'd probably never do, you'd also hear him say positive things as well, but we live in a negative world, and McCain has spent his entire campaign pushing negativity. And what about you? For weeks, you felt that it was perfectly normal to refer to Obama only by his middle name... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: The racist fire how come you never mention Reverend Wright? A member of the crowd yells racist comments and this is a big deal. Someone McCain and Palin don't even know, can't even see, does it and it is there fault somehow. Reverend Wright, someone Obama knows for 20 years as a personal friend and attends his church does it, and there is no problem here. When something doesn't please Obama he whines about it this will come in handy if he is the next President. He is too weak to be President he will be walked all over in the same manner Jimmy Carter was. Jimmy Carter was four years fo hell and swept out he door after four. --- On Sat, 11/1/08, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 11:46 AM I don't think McCain or Palin have personally fueled the racist fire, but some of their supporters definitely have. I also applaud McCain for confronting people at his events that have suggested that Obama is a Muslim. To that point, it really disturbs me about how many Americans got caught up in the Muslim rhetoric, and furthermore, it's terrible that in doing so, it branded the whole Muslim religion as bad for those who wish to think so, which is a horrible thing for our citizens to to. I bet a vast majority of these people don't know a single thing about the Muslim religion. At the same time, there are people attending McCain/Palin events that are putting out racist thoughts. Here's an example...listen to the guy at 23 seconds in; http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=zRqcfqiXCX0 And, if you search on youtube for McCain, racism, you'll see lot's more, and it's disgusting. There was a video in which a guy actually looked right at the camera and called Obama an N word, but fortunately it was removed from YouTube. I was going to post it here Tommy didn't believe it existed. But, you don't just have to use the N word to stir the racist fire. Watch that whole video above. Watch as what appears to be a nice old lady starts off with her racist statement. This is something that invalidates the concept that America is the greatest country on earth When I was younger, I used to believe that. Then I spent years of my life living and working overseas, only to come home to a country where racism is alive and well, and that includes things said by the Rev. Wright, but, for me, it's easy to see where his brand of racism came from, because his race has been horribly abused right up into this century, and finally we are starting to see that go away, slowly but surely, and the nomination of Obama is proof. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: I like word Coded. It is a nice term for accusing someone of being racist. The racist crap is wearing thin. No opinion unless it is Obama's opinion. We will see how long that lasts. --- On Sat, 11/1/08, justifiedright justifiedright@ ... wrote: From: justifiedright justifiedright@ ... Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 8:24 AM
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place!
Believe what you will. Time will tell, When he taxs everyone to death . Also he will through the nation into a depression. All of you people will get your change,taken away from you. Its too late for you to take economic classes, so just dont vote for him. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 7:38:00 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place! In a message dated 11/2/2008 7:17:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, justifiedright@ yahoo.com writes: All children are the religion their parents choose for them. His parents chose to make him a Muslim. At 28 he changed that. = === Senator Obama was raised in a secular household in Indonesia by his stepfather and mother. Obama¢s stepfather worked for a U.S. oil company, and sent his stepson to two years of Catholic school, as well as two years of public school. His actual father was a Muslim, but had become an atheist or agnostic by the time he met Obama's mother who, though spiritual, had no regard for any organized religion == from I've Got Your Back, Obama (An Open Letter To the Extreme Right) | A Soldier's Perspective http://tinyurl. com/5rknlt I'm a little fed up with this Obama is a Muslim stuff. He's not. Plain and simple. How many times does he have to say it? How many people have to research it and come to the same conclusion? We are a free nation and we have both legal and God given free agency - the right to choose. This flawed argument that just because his father or mother or whoever in his family was once/is a Muslim does not make Obama one. I grew up Catholic, but that doesn't make me one. I'm not. I don't care what the Muslim faith says about what makes a Muslim, Obama has CHOSEN a different faith. Besides, even if he WERE a Muslim, I don't care!! Do we not pride ourselves on religious freedoms as well? This country screwed up not voting for Romney because he is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints - a Mormon. Now we're stuck with two crappy choices. To NOT vote for Obama because he may be a Muslim is preposterous and ignorant. Period. **Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 10075x121241 6248x1200771803/ aol?redir= http://travel. aol.com/discount -travel?ncid= emlcntustrav 0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place!
That is true on the Dem side this round . Because there are no facts on there side at all. No birth certificates , school documents, nothing. That says a lot for people who vote for obama. By7 the way has anyone ever seen him salute the flag. From: Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 6:47:10 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place! I never see the personalizing . It seems that not agreeing 100% with Tommy is personalizing. I've also noticed this trend within the Republican party. Hate means never having to stand behind the facts. Jennifer the ethnic Druid. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: In a message dated 11/2/2008 12:57:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, justifiedright@ ... writes: Notice that the two links Mario cites below don't deny one fact I stated. Nice try. === Nice try at denial on your part -- Backatcha. The links provide the full context for your facts which you cherry-picked while ignoring those points which don't suit your purposes. Just a few examples: Catholic school and catechism. Statements from the administrators of the schools he did attend. His father registered him as Muslim; the eight-year old boy did not. The viral emails often begin with a false statement that their facts have been verified at Snopes when they actually haven't. My links to Snopes are real and provide the fact checking. In a message dated 11/2/2008 12:52:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, justifiedright@ ... writes: No facts, no analysis - just personalizing. The facts, the long history, as Werner pointed out, are in this group's archives, including your personalized attacks on Skip B (e.g., message #12682) and Keady (See Keady Resignation Demand thread) among many others. I went one step further, after analysis, to synthesis: Those who would appeal to our Heart(s) of Darkness rather than to our Better Angels. **Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 10075x121241 6248x1200771803/ aol? redir=http://travel. aol.com/discount -travel?ncid= emlcntustrav 0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place!
Why are you saying BLACK People. Its not about a race anymore. Racism will live untill you stop saying it. From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 8:34:47 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place! Old Black people playing the system? When did WE ever play the system and please dignify that! For 450 years people of African descent, were held in bondage, described as 3/5ths of a person, according to the Constitution, uneducated on purpose, because those who managed to learn rebelled against being property, as though a head of cattle! You call that, playing the system? I'll repeat again, if you have a 450 year Head Start, when will we catch up? I find your post, negative, and not being Black yourself, wouldn't know what we feel or have experienced. There are millions of Blacks in this country who have played by the rules, gone to school, served this country in times of war and not, had their children educated and wanted the American Dream, while there are over 2 million Blacks incarcerated in American prisons, while being only 12% of the population. So explain to me, while whites wrap themselves in the American Flag, don't serve or try to get out of serving, then think of only themselves as patriots, as though patriotism cones in only one color? Is that the 9-11 effect where only police and firemen are patriots? I don't think so! Where is the so-called fairness and equality? John McCain's family has played the system, allowing America to educate them for free for 100 years, attending the Naval Academy for free! He became a prisoner of war, because his flights bombed Vietnamese people! He is no hero that I can recall! He was a hotdogger, who went on R and R after his fellow Navy men were killed by his plane, then got himself transferred to another ship! Google it and see! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jennifer jennifernjca@ ... wrote: Sharon, I will answer your questions to Tommy. Although I don't think he'd agree with my facts which are from the dictionary and the encyclopedia. Sharon asked What about the coded language being used against Obama? That he's a muslim, socialist, consorting with terrorists, when he's always been a Christian, that sharing the Sharwealth with the poor instead of the rich, makes him a socialist and that he sat on a board that the Annenberg foundation sponsored in Chicago and that Ayers, Tommy answers Nothing is Coded. All of that comes from Obaam's actions. That seems to be a non-answer. Muslim - In Arabic, one who surrenders to God; a follower of Islam. There are 1 billion Muslims in the world and 6 million in the United States. Consort - keep company with; hang out with Terrorist - One who utilizes the systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve political objectives, while disguised as a civilian non-combatant. Socialist - a political advocate of socialism. Socialism - An economic system in which the basic means of production are primarily owned and controlled collectively, usually by government under some system of central planning. Social democracy - a political ideology of the left or centre-left that emerged in the late 19th century from the socialist movement and continues to be influential in many countries worldwide In general, contemporary social democrats support: A mixed economy consisting mainly of private enterprise, but with government owned or subsidized programs of education, healthcare, child care and related services for all citizens. Government bodies that regulate private enterprise in the interests of workers, consumers and fair competition. Advocacy of fair trade over free trade. An extensive system of social security (although usually not to the extent advocated by democratic socialists or other socialist groups), with the stated goal of counteracting the effects of poverty and insuring the citizens against loss of income following illness, unemployment or retirement. Moderate to high levels of taxation (through a value-added and/or progressive taxation system) to fund government expenditure. Social democrats also tend to support: Environmental protection laws (although not always to the extent advocated by Greens), such as combating global warming and increasing alternative energy funding. Support for immigration and multiculturalism. A secular and progressive social policy, although this varies markedly in degree. A foreign policy supporting the promotion of democracy, the protection of human rights and where possible, effective multilateralism. As well as human rights, social democrats also support social rights, civil rights and civil liberties Opinion: Barack Obama is not a Muslim. Nothing has ever been shown to prove he even considered practicing Islam. I have to add and so what if he is one? It is a
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Hijacked from true to equal protection
Vote for Obama, after all the proof that he has terrorist ties and believes in radical RACISM. Disregard all the facts about him, Protect him, Like the media does. Bash the other side for wearing dresses or claims of bushenomics. You want change so vote for Obama. Give him all of our nuclear weapons information and Israels nuclear info too. After all he has said in the past He does not support our Allie. He has allot of campaign money, wow people must have a lot of money to give. If you want to give, do it. You can use any name and address you want and don't worry they will not even check to see if you are a legal citizen because there is NO PROOF on is web site. I mean if they did that then the 57 Islamic States that donated, would be illegal. With that in mind vote for Obama. For he never laid out a plan he only talks about it in a half hour commercial before a major baseball game. By the way he did not care that it delayed the start of a game that Americans enjoy. Its a good thing that he will be president of 57 states, quote on quote. He will abolish the second Amendment as soon as he can. He will also enforce our police to search and seize legal weapons, such as handguns , shotguns and rifles that legal citizens use for protection, target range clubs and hunting. He tried to accomplish this in the Illinois state that he represented in the senate. He believes that it is a good thing to disarm good America citizens. The bad guys with the illegal stuff well they will not be affected, because there its no Proof the have weapons. Its a good thing that he has NO proof of his past including a valid birth certificate. Hold on a minute NO Proof keeps popping up . How can you get a drivers license without proof of who you are? Oh I forgot he was on the board of directors for the company that keeps track of birth certificates, How convenient. It will be a close election since ACORN is now Blatantly telling people to vote for Obama. They where also busted for registered Democrats that were fake. Does this also mean that if someone registered to be a Republican voter they put him in as a Democrat instead? Well I have to hand it too Obama. He covered all the bases, including cover ups before he decided to run for President. He is so good at deceit. As he spoke about the info that the LA Times refused to release. He stated that the he knows of the Islamic leader but do the 10 other people he knows have ties this Islamic leader. He never answered the fact of why he was there, or the ties he has with this leader. Oh Daaah! He spoke around it again. Vote for Obama. If you don't you are Racist, Stupid and UN Patriotic another clump of quotes from the speaches. Buy the way, if I Lynched a Obama doll in Asbury Park, What would happen to me? Please reply From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:01:06 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Hijacked from true to equal protection The secret service at Palin rallies, who keeps reporters from interviewing people in her crowds. You're believing THEM? Dana Milbank of The Washington Post writes that the Secret Service has been preventing reporters travelling with Sarah Palin from entering the crowd at her rallies to interview attendees. http://poynter.org/forum/view_post.asp?id=13653 Then comes Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan to protest that it's really not so. But now, it seems, even the Secret Service, of all respected organizations, is infested with Orwellian spin. Because right there in the interview he gave to ProPublica, Donovan admits that the Secret Service does *exactly what Dana Milbank accused them of*: It refuses to let reporters out of their Secret Service pen, into the audience, at Palin rallies. ProPublica writes, paraphrasing Donovan, Donovan said that at rallies for all the candidates, the Secret Service sometimes separates the press corps that is credentialed to cover the event known as the poolfrom the general public. That is for logistical and security reasons, he said. --- The reception had been better in Clearwater, where Palin, speaking to a sea of Palin Power and Sarahcuda T-shirts, tried to link Obama to the 1960s Weather Underground. One of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers, she said. (B! said the crowd.) And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,' she continued. (B! the crowd repeated.) http://tinyurl.com/3wmg4c Kill him! proposed one man in the audience. - I have to say the Secret Service is in dangerous territory here. In cooperation with the Palin campaign, they've started preventing reporters from leaving
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Hijacked equal protection to Reagan on AIDS
This is my point . Common sense. Yes the goverment should be involved in you killing me or anyone. But A woman should have a right to her body. Since a baby is made in her body it is up to her weather or not to have it.My spouse and I believe in abortion unless it was a rape case. But that is our belief. We also believe that our belief is not some one elses belief. But we still say the woman has the right of her own body no matter what. If guys had babies we still would feel the same. We do not agree with straight or gay promotion. That is your business. It does not conflict harm to another person. You see there has to be a line drawn between the law and your rights. Why does the law stop cancer cures from being used on people in this country. Even if they have no hope of living and want to try anything? Again there is no fine line drawn in the correct place. No Common sense only legal goverment control.. From: justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:19:45 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Hijacked equal protection to Reagan on AIDS --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Being...Anti abortionist. ..has no place in government. That is your personal business. Keep it to yourself. I don't feel the government should be involved. What if I were to kill you? Is that personal business between you and I? Should the government stay out of it? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Hijacked from true to equal protection
Hate is a bad thing. But again a descriptive name should not be breaking the law even though it was bad. But any Kill treats are that is an assault and is convict-able. From: Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:53:18 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Hijacked from true to equal protection --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are wrong. If you don't believe me, i'll be happy to post a video in which an elderly white man, outside a Palin rally, calls Obama a n word. Jack, I saw it on TV too. I also saw the guy with the Curious George doll labeled Obama. There was also one where someone yelled kill him during a Palin rally. I think McCain started to feel his conscious bothering him over these things. Inciting people to feel they can be openly hateful is dangerous. It brings out crowd psychology where people start to feel like everyone else in the group feels like they do and it is okay to act out. When its about hating a presidential candidate that is scary. Jennifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Hijacked from true to equal protection
So he was racist. From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:35:07 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Hijacked from true to equal protection You are wrong. If you don't believe me, i'll be happy to post a video in which an elderly white man, outside a Palin rally, calls Obama a n word. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ ... wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@ wrote: There are lots of those videos from Palin rallies. There is even a guy with a Curious George doll with an Obama sticker on his head. Go on youtube and put in Palin Rally Racist in the search. It is really disgusting, although kind of old news at this point. The one about someone calling Obama the n word at a Rally has already been proven false. Even Huffpo was forced to admit it. The allegation was that someone yelled And he's a n.! The person actually yelled Redistributor! Then there was the lie that someone yelled Kill Him at a rally. That one was debunked by - a statement from the secret service. Libs are counting on racism. They want it to exist, so they make things like this up. Obama baited it. Remember Their gonna say he doesn't look like the other Presidents on the money. Or how about Their gonna say...did I mention he's Black? No one said it. Hope? he publicly hoped for racism. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Hijacked from true to equal protection
Time will Tell. Patriots will watch and wait. From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:13:36 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Hijacked from true to equal protection Maybe you guys are missing the point that Obama is the better candidate, the people like him, and you just can't come to grips with it. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ ... wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ wrote: I have never seen the media so blatantly cover one candidate over another. In the past it was more of a 60/40 spilt in favor of the liberal candiate. Not this time it is more like 80/20 if that. If Obama is elected there will be only one point of view and that will be with a liberal slant. Some numbers came out recently about it. Purely postive media coverage of Obama is about 67% For McCain it is about 36% Almost a 2 to 1 ration in favor of Obama. Those numbers are approximate. The Late night talk shows jokes are much worse. They tracked a period of weeks. There was about 276 jokes about McCain and 42 about Obama. 7 to 1 ratio. The Fairness Doctrine will be reinstated and will silence any other point of view. Well if it comes back maybe I can land a job with Air America :-) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Perception, Behavior, Taleb
Dig deeper into it than common sense. From: Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:06:00 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Perception, Behavior, Taleb Another attempt to get people to think about perception, how unreliable we are at it, how we are manipulated emotionally, react emotionally instead of rationally etc. Less far out there than the consciousness stuff. What is it they say about the unexamined life? http://www.nytimes. com/2008/ 10/28/opinion/ 28brooks. html?em The New York Times Printer Friendly Format Sponsored By October 28, 2008 Op-Ed Columnist The Behavioral Revolution By DAVID BROOKS Roughly speaking, there are four steps to every decision. First, you perceive a situation. Then you think of possible courses of action. Then you calculate which course is in your best interest. Then you take the action. Over the past few centuries, public policy analysts have assumed that step three is the most important. Economic models and entire social science disciplines are premised on the assumption that people are mostly engaged in rationally calculating and maximizing their self-interest. But during this financial crisis, that way of thinking has failed spectacularly. As Alan Greenspan noted in his Congressional testimony last week, he was shocked that markets did not work as anticipated. I made a mistake in presuming that the self-interests of organizations, specifically banks and others, were such as that they were best capable of protecting their own shareholders and their equity in the firms. So perhaps this will be the moment when we alter our view of decision-making. Perhaps this will be the moment when we shift our focus from step three, rational calculation, to step one, perception. Perceiving a situation seems, at first glimpse, like a remarkably simple operation. You just look and see what's around. But the operation that seems most simple is actually the most complex, it's just that most of the action takes place below the level of awareness. Looking at and perceiving the world is an active process of meaning-making that shapes and biases the rest of the decision-making chain. Economists and psychologists have been exploring our perceptual biases for four decades now, with the work of Amos Tversky and Daniel Kahneman, and also with work by people like Richard Thaler, Robert Shiller, John Bargh and Dan Ariely. My sense is that this financial crisis is going to amount to a coming-out party for behavioral economists and others who are bringing sophisticated psychology to the realm of public policy. At least these folks have plausible explanations for why so many people could have been so gigantically wrong about the risks they were taking. Nassim Nicholas Taleb has been deeply influenced by this stream of research. Taleb not only has an explanation for what's happening, he saw it coming. His popular books Fooled by Randomness and The Black Swan were broadsides at the risk-management models used in the financial world and beyond. In The Black Swan, Taleb wrote, The government-sponsore d institution Fannie Mae, when I look at its risks, seems to be sitting on a barrel of dynamite, vulnerable to the slightest hiccup. Globalization, he noted, creates interlocking fragility. He warned that while the growth of giant banks gives the appearance of stability, in reality, it raises the risk of a systemic collapse when one fails, they all fail. Taleb believes that our brains evolved to suit a world much simpler than the one we now face. His writing is idiosyncratic, but he does touch on many of the perceptual biases that distort our thinking: our tendency to see data that confirm our prejudices more vividly than data that contradict them; our tendency to overvalue recent events when anticipating future possibilities; our tendency to spin concurring facts into a single causal narrative; our tendency to applaud our own supposed skill in circumstances when we've actually benefited from dumb luck. And looking at the financial crisis, it is easy to see dozens of errors of perception. Traders misperceived the possibility of rare events. They got caught in social contagions and reinforced each other's risk assessments. They failed to perceive how tightly linked global networks can transform small events into big disasters. Taleb is characteristically vituperative about the quantitative risk models, which try to model something that defies modelization. He subscribes to what he calls the tragic vision of humankind, which believes in the existence of inherent limitations and flaws in the way we think and act and requires an acknowledgement of this fact as a basis for any individual and collective action. If recent events don't underline this worldview, nothing will. If you start thinking about our faulty perceptions, the first thing you realize is that markets are not perfectly efficient, people are not
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: So the Record is Clear
Opinions do not harm or kill they are opinions From: Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:44:20 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: So the Record is Clear --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ ... wrote: I will say they are wrong on an issue Tommy, This is great because saying someone is wrong about an issue is personal. Saying you have a different opinion is not. I have a different opinion than you do. I am not wrong. You are not wrong. We have opinions. Jennifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] So the Record is Clear
I Agree From: justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:10:50 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] So the Record is Clear Go over the day's posts. I never personalize. I never call anyone posting here any names or claim they have personal shortcomings. I will say they are wrong on an issue, but I make it a conscious point to not personalize. Now look at what is said of me - not my views, but me personally. Not complaining, just observing. Political discussions usually deteriorate to that. People tie all that they are to politics, forgetting it's just a tiny part of us and so much more to enjoy about us. Not many people can resist personalizing. Give it a try. Folks get to the end of a discussion when they don't personalize. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] The Race Question At Asbury Park
THOSE DAYS ARE OVER GET WITH THE YEAR 2008. RACISM IS OVER !!! This election is not about race . It is about a President. Racism is a thing of the past unless you are racist. In that case it is not over for you and only you. Try this Go Back To School. Get A Good Job . Make more Money. And then you will see the truth. It is over that is history and only that. From: wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:17:09 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] The Race Question At Asbury Park The Race Question At Asbury Park Asbury Park, NJ July 14 - The colored people here are not as indignant as was supposed over the action of James A. Bradley in arranging a separate bathing ground for them. The members of the Afro-American League, who were active in the movement to hold a meeting tonight, in which Mr. Bradley was to be strongly denounced, found but little sympathy, and the whole thing ended in a fizzle. This evening the colored people denounced the hot-headed persons who talked of holding the indignation meeting. After conferring together, the leaders of the colored people decided that Mr. Bradley's action was justified by the circumstances, and there will be no trouble here over the race question. The New York Times -1890 - - - - - Applying modern values and standards to interpret events of another time and context leads to distorted conclusions. Werner [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The 700B bailout that wasn't
Why not just EM your senator. talking here does nothing for the country. From: justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:24:46 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: The 700B bailout that wasn't First off, I believe the selling point was that we will be bailing out people, not just banks. Think even further in the bank's position. Why do it all? Why not take the homes and let the market rebound? If you think I'm off base, remember that's not a hypo. It's real life. The bank I spoke to today not only vetoed my guy's loan, but everyone's. They won't involve themselve in the program. So my point is - this was a bunch of brou-ha-ha over nothing. Right now no one's getting bailed out, and the people are at the mercy of the banks as usual. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Your bank will therefore lose the other $85K. If the bak beleives the area can support a $400k foreclosure and their mortgage is clean, they took a decent downpayment and it's a couple years in - they may be ok to veto it. It all depends on the bank, their intial appraisal, current appraisal and the true status of the borrower. So what if I decide to go into default on my mortage for $400k, pay an attorney say $10k for a shot at saving another 75k and staying in my house. How much you charging? If you're successful, let us all know, you'll have a bunch new clients. Forget the news reporting it, where are the lawyers advertising their services we'll bail u out - not of jail - but your mortgage - regardless of your credit... Does it really make sense NOT to give the bank veto power. In a typical bankruptcy, the creditors have a right to object, right? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Asbury Park Calendar Experiment
Nice calandar , it has the days of the week on it. Oh it says the month, and even has numbered days. I noticed there were no to do dates on it. - Original Message From: oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:00:32 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Asbury Park Calendar Experiment I'm tinkering with Google's shared Calendar. http://www.asburybo ardwalk.com/ calendar. htm Yes, there are many calendar apps out there, but let's see if this works. Go the link above. You'll be able to see any event added to the calendar. To add events (free...) 1. Lower right hand corner is the Google Button. Click it. IF YOU HAVE A GOOGLE ACCOUNT - then sign in with your google account or create a new one if want to have a different one for this service. IF YOU DON'T HAVE GOOGLE ACCOUNT - then you can sign up with Google and become enabled to add events. NOTE: You may have to send me an email with Google email address to get permissons even though I have it set to public. It's an experiment. Try it. It's free and you can use it to promote your events, yard sales, public meetings, dinner specials... And the mighty goog takes care of the rest. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] How to Respond to A Heckler
You are so outta touch with life and reallity! maybe you should just move to a different country and stop screwing up this one. - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 8:12:44 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] How to Respond to A Heckler The soldiers in Iraq are NOT fighting for our freedoms. Who knows, at this point, WHAT they're fighting for. We didn't get the oil. There's no democracy. Our freedoms were never the point. Of the 7,000 reasons the Bushies made up, week after week. Besides, our freedoms do not emanate from military efforts or from the Pentagon. Our constitution is not under attack in Iraq. Speaking of Palin's Nazi Rallies and her Nazi-ettes. This lame comeback is hardly the top story about her today. This is: http://www.care2. com/news/ member/434996229 /902414 On Oct 7, 2008, at 2:34 PM, justifiedright wrote: Ooo, SaraCuda ! http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=gvGI2pTDcvw [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
Ok , wow that was not directed at me . I still reply for the comment that I made inj one of my EM. - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 5:24:53 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance I always call racists assholes. You are a special case. You stopped mattering when you made one racist comment after another about Obama and African Americans in general, i.e. hussein, black assed etc. That being said, you've done nothing at all to upgrade your asshole status. You also failed to notice that the conflict you mentioned was peacefully and rapidy resolved. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: Jack has no problem calling others asshole but takes offense when you call him an asshole. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 12:58 PM You are also a person that called me an asshole for no reason at all... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician rockmscn@ . wrote: Sorry I am not Republican nor am I Democrat. I am an American that looks at where we are politically, economically, and securely. I am sorry you cant see past the label you are no better than they are running the country. Also finding who to blame does nothing because no one is accountable for anything they do in our government. This goes for Corporations too. That's why nothing works or changes politically , Racially, etc... . - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 10:26:31 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Ah! Another Republican claiming both sides when the Republicans, in power for eight years, running the executive, legislative and judiciary branches (into the ground) are at fault. The new mantra of the right, when corner with reality. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Rock Musician wrote: corruption can ruin a good thing. Its both sides of the government and unless we can have a say in government directly it will never change. - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ earthlink. net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 6:41:48 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Yes. And THANK GOODNESS 8 years of Politics By Rove DID NOTHING to poison the well. On Oct 2, 2008, at 6:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote: Sorry Gabby, nothing to do with herbs on the list. All the extreme partisans who have gone overboard defending and exulting their party's platforms and candidates really need to take a deep breath of fresh air. To think that this most important of elections can come down to party politics is a shame and a sin. The most amazing thing about this polarized extremism is that is the part of peace love and understanding who are the radical hate spewing win at all costs while those button down conservatives are reeling from the past 8 years and have seemingly decided to flow with the times. I sit at my laptop and read and read and read, hoping to gain the needed info that will sway my vote, I especially try to take in everything Obama has to say; sadly, he hasn't come close to convincing me that he can do anything besides read a speech and act like a rock star whereas I read the Republican hoopla and every now and then, contrary to their opponents, they bring up corruption and the need to stop accepting it, to fight it, and eliminate it. Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Those of us who have worked and played and lived in Asbury Park for more than a couple of weeks know exactly how corruption can ruin a good thing. Give credit where credit is due and open up your eyes to both sides and then try to make a learned decision. Or, be like a hinge swinging back and forth, rusting over time, but never going anywhere [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
So vote for obambi As~~~le . And keep it to yourself. - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:10:17 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance Sarah Palin represents everything that I think is wrong with this country. Her sarcastic, insult laden speech at the Republican convention sickened me, and that was her coming out party. She lost any respect that I had an open mind to at that very moment. Her interviews with Katie Couric leave me speechless. She advocates the senseless and violent killing of wolves. She is a member of a church that thinks speaking in tongues is just fine. She wants to see Roe vs. Wade overturned. And you call all that a fresh breath of common sense Unbelievable. And ignorant. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: Sorry Gabby, nothing to do with herbs on the list. All the extreme partisans who have gone overboard defending and exulting their party's platforms and candidates really need to take a deep breath of fresh air. To think that this most important of elections can come down to party politics is a shame and a sin. The most amazing thing about this polarized extremism is that is the part of peace love and understanding who are the radical hate spewing win at all costs while those button down conservatives are reeling from the past 8 years and have seemingly decided to flow with the times. I sit at my laptop and read and read and read, hoping to gain the needed info that will sway my vote, I especially try to take in everything Obama has to say; sadly, he hasn't come close to convincing me that he can do anything besides read a speech and act like a rock star whereas I read the Republican hoopla and every now and then, contrary to their opponents, they bring up corruption and the need to stop accepting it, to fight it, and eliminate it. Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Those of us who have worked and played and lived in Asbury Park for more than a couple of weeks know exactly how corruption can ruin a good thing. Give credit where credit is due and open up your eyes to both sides and then try to make a learned decision. Or, be like a hinge swinging back and forth, rusting over time, but never going anywhere [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance
corruption can ruin a good thing. Its both sides of the government and unless we can have a say in government directly it will never change. - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 6:41:48 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Yes. And THANK GOODNESS 8 years of Politics By Rove DID NOTHING to poison the well. On Oct 2, 2008, at 6:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote: Sorry Gabby, nothing to do with herbs on the list. All the extreme partisans who have gone overboard defending and exulting their party's platforms and candidates really need to take a deep breath of fresh air. To think that this most important of elections can come down to party politics is a shame and a sin. The most amazing thing about this polarized extremism is that is the part of peace love and understanding who are the radical hate spewing win at all costs while those button down conservatives are reeling from the past 8 years and have seemingly decided to flow with the times. I sit at my laptop and read and read and read, hoping to gain the needed info that will sway my vote, I especially try to take in everything Obama has to say; sadly, he hasn't come close to convincing me that he can do anything besides read a speech and act like a rock star whereas I read the Republican hoopla and every now and then, contrary to their opponents, they bring up corruption and the need to stop accepting it, to fight it, and eliminate it. Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Those of us who have worked and played and lived in Asbury Park for more than a couple of weeks know exactly how corruption can ruin a good thing. Give credit where credit is due and open up your eyes to both sides and then try to make a learned decision. Or, be like a hinge swinging back and forth, rusting over time, but never going anywhere [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
So vote for Obambi , because you have personality issues instead of historical government knowledge. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:08:32 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance sometimes these wonders just pop into my head...usually best to not hit send. DUDE...if you think that Palin is clean you are blinded. she is all female ugliness. behind the scenes finagling, secrecy, i don't think the world yet knows how ugly women can be. just like the librarian (i think its the librarian) she scares the bejeezus out of me. AND...if for no other reason, you are getting all the same creeps that we've had...if nothing else a little freshening of the meat may be beneficial.Palin is a ROVE creation more and more every day. i am by no means a partisan person. i know the dems rot in many ways. i am a Nader lover, but what good is someone like him when we have done nothing to demand that we hear him and Paul and other third party candidates. that is the real crime to me. i consider our politics fixed, just some minor differences between the parties...but after 8 years of complete deterioration, just change the (*^%% sheets. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
At least we agree on something. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 7:28:51 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance now this is what i'm talking about. neither party is interested in genuine civic participation. i am willing to bet most ahem..local governments prefer for us plebs to keep quiet. unless we are kissing their ass. we need a better way to vote. IRV etc...check out fairvote.org opencongress. org we also need to work on our anger issues. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: corruption can ruin a good thing. Its both sides of the government and unless we can have a say in government directly it will never change. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
angry racist ! Lets use race to vote for a president. That's real Intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Bambi to use in his propaganda to run for president. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 7:24:29 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance personality issues? really? do you think you could write a detail of those for me. I would find it most helpful. my asbury park therapist (who's fabulous BTW) cant find anything wrong with me and i feel like i have a good life. but maybe a name calling Rock Musician can help me. are you friends with the angry racist? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: So vote for Obambi , because you have personality issues instead of historical government knowledge. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:08:32 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance sometimes these wonders just pop into my head...usually best to not hit send. DUDE...if you think that Palin is clean you are blinded. she is all female ugliness. behind the scenes finagling, secrecy, i don't think the world yet knows how ugly women can be. just like the librarian (i think its the librarian) she scares the bejeezus out of me. AND...if for no other reason, you are getting all the same creeps that we've had...if nothing else a little freshening of the meat may be beneficial.Palin is a ROVE creation more and more every day. i am by no means a partisan person. i know the dems rot in many ways. i am a Nader lover, but what good is someone like him when we have done nothing to demand that we hear him and Paul and other third party candidates. that is the real crime to me. i consider our politics fixed, just some minor differences between the parties...but after 8 years of complete deterioration, just change the (*^%% sheets. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
If you think she is flirting and a barbie you are the one with the problem ... your sick and need counseling. - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 10:28:56 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance Angry sexist! Let's use sex to vote for a president. That's real intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Caribou Barbie to use in her propaganda to run for (vice) President. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Rock Musician wrote: angry racist ! Lets use race to vote for a president. That's real Intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Bambi to use in his propaganda to run for president. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ yahoo.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 7:24:29 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance personality issues? really? do you think you could write a detail of those for me. I would find it most helpful. my asbury park therapist (who's fabulous BTW) cant find anything wrong with me and i feel like i have a good life. but maybe a name calling Rock Musician can help me. are you friends with the angry racist? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: So vote for Obambi , because you have personality issues instead of historical government knowledge. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:08:32 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance sometimes these wonders just pop into my head...usually best to not hit send. DUDE...if you think that Palin is clean you are blinded. she is all female ugliness. behind the scenes finagling, secrecy, i don't think the world yet knows how ugly women can be. just like the librarian (i think its the librarian) she scares the bejeezus out of me. AND...if for no other reason, you are getting all the same creeps that we've had...if nothing else a little freshening of the meat may be beneficial.Palin is a ROVE creation more and more every day. i am by no means a partisan person. i know the dems rot in many ways. i am a Nader lover, but what good is someone like him when we have done nothing to demand that we hear him and Paul and other third party candidates. that is the real crime to me. i consider our politics fixed, just some minor differences between the parties...but after 8 years of complete deterioration, just change the (*^%% sheets. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
Look past that and look at whats real The problem with America is they stray from what needs to be done and harp on the Drama instead. - Original Message From: fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 12:36:16 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance It is calculated, fake folks-y-ness. Like when she says stuff like If you ask the parents at the soccer game and I'm Joe 6-pack she thinks that by saying You betcha middle and small town America will relate to her better. But, it is all calculated. And, when in doubt, do something cute, eh? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... wrote: Is that why she winks all the time? Flirting or I've got one over you! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: Angry sexist! Let's use sex to vote for a president. That's real intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Caribou Barbie to use in her propaganda to run for (vice) President. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Rock Musician wrote: angry racist ! Lets use race to vote for a president. That's real Intelligent. But actually, it was very intelligent for Bambi to use in his propaganda to run for president. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 7:24:29 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance personality issues? really? do you think you could write a detail of those for me. I would find it most helpful. my asbury park therapist (who's fabulous BTW) cant find anything wrong with me and i feel like i have a good life. but maybe a name calling Rock Musician can help me. are you friends with the angry racist? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician rockmscn@ . wrote: So vote for Obambi , because you have personality issues instead of historical government knowledge. - Original Message From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:08:32 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance sometimes these wonders just pop into my head...usually best to not hit send. DUDE...if you think that Palin is clean you are blinded. she is all female ugliness. behind the scenes finagling, secrecy, i don't think the world yet knows how ugly women can be. just like the librarian (i think its the librarian) she scares the bejeezus out of me. AND...if for no other reason, you are getting all the same creeps that we've had...if nothing else a little freshening of the meat may be beneficial.Palin is a ROVE creation more and more every day. i am by no means a partisan person. i know the dems rot in many ways. i am a Nader lover, but what good is someone like him when we have done nothing to demand that we hear him and Paul and other third party candidates. that is the real crime to me. i consider our politics fixed, just some minor differences between the parties...but after 8 years of complete deterioration, just change the (*^%% sheets. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance
I do apologize. I do take responsibility for my actions. Unlike either side of any election or party. - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 12:58:05 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: a question of balance You are also a person that called me an asshole for no reason at all... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Sorry I am not Republican nor am I Democrat. I am an American that looks at where we are politically, economically, and securely. I am sorry you cant see past the label you are no better than they are running the country. Also finding who to blame does nothing because no one is accountable for anything they do in our government. This goes for Corporations too. That's why nothing works or changes politically , Racially, etc... . - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 10:26:31 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Ah! Another Republican claiming both sides when the Republicans, in power for eight years, running the executive, legislative and judiciary branches (into the ground) are at fault. The new mantra of the right, when corner with reality. On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Rock Musician wrote: corruption can ruin a good thing. Its both sides of the government and unless we can have a say in government directly it will never change. - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ earthlink. net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 6:41:48 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] a question of balance Yes. And THANK GOODNESS 8 years of Politics By Rove DID NOTHING to poison the well. On Oct 2, 2008, at 6:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] net wrote: Sorry Gabby, nothing to do with herbs on the list. All the extreme partisans who have gone overboard defending and exulting their party's platforms and candidates really need to take a deep breath of fresh air. To think that this most important of elections can come down to party politics is a shame and a sin. The most amazing thing about this polarized extremism is that is the part of peace love and understanding who are the radical hate spewing win at all costs while those button down conservatives are reeling from the past 8 years and have seemingly decided to flow with the times. I sit at my laptop and read and read and read, hoping to gain the needed info that will sway my vote, I especially try to take in everything Obama has to say; sadly, he hasn't come close to convincing me that he can do anything besides read a speech and act like a rock star whereas I read the Republican hoopla and every now and then, contrary to their opponents, they bring up corruption and the need to stop accepting it, to fight it, and eliminate it. Until Sarah Palin was nominated there was nary a mention of the C word. So it took a woman, a Mom, A PTA member, a Mayor, a Govenor, and her fresh breath of common sense to tell America how she fought corruption. Those of us who have worked and played and lived in Asbury Park for more than a couple of weeks know exactly how corruption can ruin a good thing. Give credit where credit is due and open up your eyes to both sides and then try to make a learned decision. Or, be like a hinge swinging back and forth, rusting over time, but never going anywhere [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story
Mike I agree with you. The problem here is people don't have respect or the sense of what is real. If you don't have respect you don't see it. That's ignorance! - Original Message From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 10:00:30 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story What could be worse; Nixon or Bush 2! You're ignorant and I shouldn't have responded, but what the H**l! TROLL! -- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: Neither have the experience to be President of the United States. The difference is Obama hate the US and Palin doesn't. That black assed pansy wouldn't even vist wounded troop whe he was in Iraq. He will demand a lot of respect from the military if he is elected. Probably worse than Clinton. --- On Tue, 9/30/08, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... wrote: From: sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Full Rolling Stone Story To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 6:25 PM I just read this in another political group, I'm in. Good read about how stupid some Americans are, when they buy this line of schitt! At least Obama graduated from Harvard! Palin has NO creditials comparable to Barack Obama. My 2 cents! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Why Wall St. Will Feel Right Next Door - Disinformation on Wall St. Meltdown
It would not be this way in wall street right now , If the Ceo's the top executives and all other owners of these companies were responsible for the debt that was killing there company. Right now The corporations that are folding and they are walking away with billions of dollars , Mansions and everything that goes with it. They should be walking away with NOTHING No Loop holes or anything --- They should loose it ALL. The law has to be changed. They should be 100% Liable for the corporation they run. They get paid way too much money, claiming that it is what they are worth. Scaling their worth on how many people they Employ. Well now they are employing people. If they rape the company for billions and are in the red, they take it from the employed people. Pay cuts, Benefit cuts, etc.. and or including folding the company. But they still get billions. Wow , what a business! I think I am going to buy a company that makes 1 million a year. I will pay myself 2 million a year, Cut everything I can from my employees AND FOLD THE BUSINESS. I will walk with 2 million and the company, employees will be shit outta luck. ( I have worked for 2 corporations that have gone this route. )The last corp. I worked for, I made friends with the CEO. I played the game for severance pay. He told me that this is what he does for a living-- Buying and Folding. Because the law allows it. Well now they are all doing it. - Original Message From: radio881gal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 10:26:42 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Why Wall St. Will Feel Right Next Door - Disinformation on Wall St. Meltdown I just couldn't keep quiet anymore, watching the newscasters struggle with the Wall St. meltdown, which yes is relevant to Asbury Park and any community that has to borrow money. So here it is. OKay, I'm no financial genius, but... I've been interviewing quants - rocket science level financial geniuses - for years now about how they create the complex securities that have enriched a generation of Wall St. elites. And I've always wondered how anyone could predict what the chain reaction of a collapse of this hugely complex, global market would look like? Ironically, a lot of these instruments are bought to reduce the risk of other investments failing. In credit derivatives, they may start with a simple credit situation - like a mortgage - a buyer and debt holder. But the investments that are sliced and diced, reshuffled and morphed into new complex instruments would be impossible to identify from the original source. It's like some older people I've met who are taking 18 meds a day. What doctor can really monitor the interactions of all those complex compounds on a living changing entity. Not a bad analogy really. (Alot of people are going to have more trouble paying for those meds.) Now for what drove me to post this on an otherwise Asbury Park focused site: The current administration keeps refering to the mortgage industry as having caused this Wall St. collapse. But the institutions that offer mortgages - so far - have not been the ones to fall. Yes, WaMu and a few other mortgage lenders are on the brink. But commercial banks are doing fine. Sovereign Bank, certainly Bank of America! aren't in trouble. It's the investment banks that deal in those structured products that are being bailed out or forced into marriage. There's more and I'd like to know what you think. It's at www.asburyradio. com Thanks for reading... Maureen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Note to Paul Vail
Jennifer I'm on you side. I agree with you and what you said. I think this group has a problem with staying on the subject at hand. I think they just like to disagree with what ever is said and try to stuff it down your throat. The best way to talk around here is to say your piece then ignore the rest. - Original Message From: Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2008 5:15:45 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Note to Paul Vail No. I did not call their evangelism offensive. I was offended that the mission was not offering shelter unless homeless men converted to their faith. That is more like the crusades or the Spanish inquisition than evangelism. I think forcing your faith on people is wrong. That is my opinion. I think not helping people who need help unless they join your faith is inexcusable. There are many fine programs run by faith based groups that help all people who need them. If that were the case here then the group's faith would have never entered my conversation or thoughts. If you read my post again then you might see that the turning out of those who did not convert without help or referrals lead to a safety issue. This was not a simple issue. There were many concerns about the practices of the mission. Their faith was not the issue it was their practice of truly helping only those who embraced it. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ ... wrote: Jennifer's comment below makes it even worse. She calls their evangelism offensive. Paul Vail reads this board, and he ought to speak up and clarify this quickly. SUFA was supposed to be about safty, not condemning anyone's religion. What's the story, Paul? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jennifer jennifernjca@ wrote: Tommy, It wasn't a fight against any religion per se. What I believe Paul is referring to is the lack of a real program to treat the addictions and/or psychological problems that are often present in some homeless populations. The mission described their treatment on their earlier web page as requiring the men to sleep on the sanctuary floor, accept the faith of the mission (which was non- denominational christian). So if you were a Jew, Buddhist, Catholic, Jainist, Baptist, Atheist or anything else you had to accept the mission's religious doctrine in order to stay inside the mission. To me this is offensive. I also don't see how it helps. It is one thing for a person to choose a faith and that can help with other issues, but on an icy cold winter day many may be forced to convert (or pretend to) in order to stay warm. There is also the issue of no other programs for their population. They would simply turn the ones who did not sleep on the sanctuary floor and convert out onto the streets to find their way. In my opinion, it was that practice that made the mission seem quite dangerous to both the residents of the city and the men who they would shelter, but not provide additional referrals or assistance to their underlying needs. Jennifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Obama Party in AP....
What a stupid reason not to vote fore someone - Original Message From: Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 1, 2008 8:30:58 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Obama Party in AP He could be The Guy Next Door. Literally. He own so many homes, you never know. On Sep 1, 2008, at 7:08 AM, sharon_b283 wrote: Did you make that up, or is it a personal opinion? Your man doesn't know how many homes he owns, never shops in a supermarket, wants to LOOK like Mr. Ordinary, when his wife wears $3000 dollar suits and looks like a mannequin, right out of TV! Not bad, when you're already rich and have a rich trophy wife! I call her Mrs. Plastic! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: I got it! Lets vote for a man the Russians call Bambi! They really want Bambi to be our next president. This man was never in the service and Never ever salutes the Flag of the United States of America. Never wears a flag pin on his lapel (like every other presidential candidate. He wants to disarm our nuclear defense system, ban guns to registered legal citizens, give our social security benefits to illegal aliens, and pull out of Irag and Afganistan early. Also has a slight connection to Muslim religion through family. Wow this sounds like the man I want. O' Bambi
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Obama Party in AP....
Does someone have horse blinders on - Original Message From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 1, 2008 7:08:43 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Obama Party in AP Did you make that up, or is it a personal opinion? Your man doesn't know how many homes he owns, never shops in a supermarket, wants to LOOK like Mr. Ordinary, when his wife wears $3000 dollar suits and looks like a mannequin, right out of TV! Not bad, when you're already rich and have a rich trophy wife! I call her Mrs. Plastic! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Rock Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: I got it! Lets vote for a man the Russians call Bambi! They really want Bambi to be our next president. This man was never in the service and Never ever salutes the Flag of the United States of America. Never wears a flag pin on his lapel (like every other presidential candidate. He wants to disarm our nuclear defense system, ban guns to registered legal citizens, give our social security benefits to illegal aliens, and pull out of Irag and Afganistan early. Also has a slight connection to Muslim religion through family. Wow this sounds like the man I want. O' Bambi
Re: [AsburyPark] Complaints? Negativity?
I was at the Stone Pony with my kid Wed night and the Fireworks on the beach were awsome. Thank you Asbury Park. I love sharing moments like that with my kids. Its a memory you never forget. - Original Message From: charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:50:41 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Complaints? Negativity? More recently, didnt they make a commitment to have the entire beachfront done by Memorial Day? Its almost Labor Day. Interesting indeed! A lot of things were sopose to be done by Memorial Day. Then they pushed things back till July 4th weekend. The set back was due to delays due to approvals and what not? I think they overestimated the amount of work and the time table they gave. Even with the extra weeks added, everything is still unfinished.
