Re: State of Web Browser Accessibility

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : afrim via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: State of Web Browser Accessibility

In fact, if it's possible, please help me onto how to disable forever some add-ons. I click: "never activate", but it doesn't take effect.Thanks.

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Re: Anime discussion

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : assault_freak via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Anime discussion

lol. How did you finally get it to work... you should be looking for subtitle processing, expand it, and then go to multisub / etc. Then tab around and you'll find the list of tabs. Text to speech is the one you want. Did you get a chance to listen to that clip?

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Re: Cromibility

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : mario navarro via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Cromibility

hi Trenton and seppi.I did the subscricion again,    but I got this message back:We have received a request to join the axs - chrome -discuss group.You are already subscribed to this group.I  do not understand why not get the messages of the group in my mail thunder bird.some tips?...cheers.

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Re: Cromibility

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : mario navarro via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Cromibility

i Trenton, good news you give me.it was very good to hear ...I wish you a good journey with your chrome book.you have to be careful because I think your cat wants to steal the chrome book from you ...ok, nice demo.thanks for everything.cheers.

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Re: Cromibility

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : mario navarro via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Cromibility

hi Seppi.thank you friend.I will try again.maybe this time I'll have better luck ...cheers.

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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade.

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : dhruv via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade.

The thing with bookshare and other such sites is that they don't have all the books available. So I don't know, if theoretically (coughcough...) I grab a book from a torrenting site would that be illegal as I being a blind person am allowed to download books from the internet? I don't know about how the bill is worded, but was just curious

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Re: IRC: does anyone still use it? And for RPG?

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: IRC: does anyone still use it? And for RPG?

Well, How do I use it to work with jaws?

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Re: Braillemon status update!

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : The Imaginatrix via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Braillemon status update!

Found a bug, though not a particularly disruptive one. When I get coins from the counter in the Game Corner, I'm not charged for them. I got about 700 coins without my dollars going down at all. I wouldn't mind so much if they did—I have a Persian and she's never forgetting Pay Day—but since I'm supposed to lose 1000 Pokédollars when I get coins and I'm not, I could just ask for more and more coins until I had enough to get all the prizes. (I might just do that now, while I can. xD)

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Re: Alter Aeon December 2014 Updates

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : the terminator via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter Aeon December 2014 Updates

how do you play that?

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Re: Braillemon status update!

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : The Imaginatrix via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Braillemon status update!

...Never mind. All I had to do was use the Coin Case and there it was. Shame I can't use all those Pokédollars I Pay-Dayed into being in the machine, though. Used some of the coins in the case to get a Dratini and Abra from the prize corner. They should come in handy. I'll stop spamming the thread with useless info about my playing now. I'm just so happy I can play Pokémon that I can't help but gush about it! 

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Re: grave of redemption: concept demo

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Niklas via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: grave of redemption: concept demo

I hope that as well, it is simply to awesome to let it di before it's finished. I realy like this game, keep it up, you're doing a simply fantastic job with it.

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Re: State of Web Browser Accessibility

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jason SW via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: State of Web Browser Accessibility

I haven't looked at this topic in a week or so, so just catching up now.I've been using NVDA as my primary screen reader for over a year now, maybe even two, and in all that time, I haven't seen a single Firefox crash.Then again... I don't install Flash/Java or let scripts run globally, so... Maybe that has something to do with it. In part, at least.I've been making more customizations to my setup, removing unnecessary toolbar buttons, hiding unused menu options with a userChrome.css file, etc. At first, I thought the customization page was inaccessible, but it works surprisingly well with NVDA's object navigation. I haven't used object navigation much, so I didn't think to try it at first.If anyone would like help configuring or using Firefox, let me know. I'm happy to help.

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Re: accessible android emulator?

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: accessible android emulator?

I would like to have it too. please, could anyone share it?

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Re: Braillemon status update!

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : The Imaginatrix via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Braillemon status update!

Got this error when I leveled up my Oddish with Rare Candy and it wanted to learn Poison Powder. I tried to delete Sweet Scent to allow for this. Three separate times. And it did this whenever I tried.___FATAL ERROR inaction number 1of Key Press Event for  Keyfor object movelearndelete2:Push :: Execution Error - Variable Get 44.attackName(100632, -2147483648)at gml_Object_movelearndelete2_KeyPress_13And I still don't know where the Game Corner is! Someone help me PLEEEASE!

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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade.

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade.

Please read Aaron's post and you'll know.

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Re: Alter Aeon December 2014 Updates

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter Aeon December 2014 Updates

[[wow]], gonna login to see how I go!

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Re: Braillemon status update!

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : The Imaginatrix via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Braillemon status update!

Still can't find the Game Corner and apparently I can't get onto the other Routes yet. HELP!

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Re: Paladin of the Sky, new full length audio game RPG

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Trajectory via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Paladin of the Sky, new full length audio game RPG

@Terminator, no idea what you're asking here. Left out what?

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Re: Anime discussion

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : darkabomination via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Anime discussion

Sad to say it doesn't look possible. Again I've tried and no context menu comes up. Via the alt keys, function keys, or any other method I can think of. Basically aside from a few keyboard shortcuts that open prompts for files, nothing else gets a response.edit: OH DAMN IT. Trolling, thy name is irony.Got the preferences open. If you would be so kind, which section should I look for?

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Re: Anime discussion

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : darkabomination via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Anime discussion

Sad to say it doesn't look possible. Again I've tried and no context menu comes up. Via the alt keys, function keys, or any other method I can think of. Basically aside from a few keyboard shortcuts that open prompts for files, nothing else gets a response.

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Re: goodbye x-sight

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : the terminator via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: goodbye x-sight

does someone still have this info?thanks!

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Re: bk1 stuck after killing ultra brat boy

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: bk1 stuck after killing ultra brat boy

The translating guide overdoes it, IMO.I just installed the Japanese IME from microsoft, and the instant translate addon for NVDA.Notice: the instant translate addon changed its commands since the guide was posted.

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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade.

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : the terminator via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade.

why the... this topik is not deleted moderators?

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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade.

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : crashmaster via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade.

Hi all.in the early days I did play in the dark arts who hasn't.I still have a bit of questionable material But that is a lot less than I used to have thanks to opensource and other freeware and low cost apps.A lot of sites legal and otherwise use torrents because of their distribution mediumI have been both a pirate and hacker and a normal consumer so I understand both sides of the coin so to speak.That said I have my reservations about the big corperations that handle just about everything under the sun.I love them because they make the world work but I hate them because they are unpredictable and I have no idea where I actually stand as a consumer.That was my main reason in the early days of the net I became a pirate for a while.And if it wasn't for low cost, opensource and freeware I'd still probably be fighting the good fight.Thankfully while they are still a big pain there are outlets for most cases u
 nless you are a big tv series buff and I am but not that bad that I would use all my space to do that stuff.With the new wipo treaty for the blind books and stuff can be freely distributed round the place and that means I can subscribe to bookshare and download all I want.True I can't get audio drama as such but with indipendant software and music/ audio producers its a lot easier.Sadly torrents have gotten a bad name.I wouldn't touch them even to get lagit stuff but I have no idea where I stand.Torrenting itself is not alegal but I don't know how far this translates.Right now, at least till the big companies can get costs down to the point they can sue just about everyone they want even if you are still on the other side unless you download large volumes or something its unlikely at least in new Zealand that you would ever get a warning notice.And even if you got 3 notices and appeared in court its unlikely unless I guess you
  were really bad that you would actually have to pay for much.There have been only a couple times publically that any charges have come to pass.its 25 bucks for each warning so 75 bucks for 3.its 250 to get into court so 320 bucks already for the big wigs to get you in court.If guilty well you have to pay all that.pluss I think there was a damages fee of 50 bucks, and the cost of the stuff you stole the digital ones I think that was 6 or so bucks in this case.Its a bit of a jolt but nothing more.And whenever the big corps have asked for people to spy on users and or other drastic measures, they have turned down just about everyone else.No one wants to have to spy on everyone else, Also in an interesting development, one the big guys should follow if at all possible, there was a small company that was on one of the lists I was on.Who contacted the list because several people were pirating their stuff.There was a discus
 sion on the list over several days and a deal was nutted out.At the end I congradulated the company for talking and getting both sides of the story.And while I fully realise that that won't solve everything under the sun, it does put you on better relations with your users.Sadly that's not always the case.while I have found a cheap and legal office and other software website, the price for some of this software, ie office are so outrageously high that  I am wandering who would buy it now.free online office and cloud based solutions for less than it is for an offline version pluss opensource software ofcause exist, but to be honest I am supprised not more have complained about the prices.Things are better than they have been but I still have my reservations.there are even people thinking about making vpns alegal.There will be always something the big guys hate and we love.They won't win every case and neither w
 ill we.The main reason though that we have got off so lightly though is that for the big corps each is more dangerous to eachother than the users are.So if they were not fighting we would probably be in trouble.Its been that way for a while.And I hope it stays that way.

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Re: Cromibility

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Trenton Goldshark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Cromibility

The Chromebook Journey Begins!I am now typing to  you all, on my "brand-new" Acer Chromebook 11, where I'm about to set a timer for a pizza via the "omni" bar!BTW, to answer a quesgtion dealing with the Google TTS voices, I can confirm that the Portuguese language voice is an option among the "select language" screen, once ya turn on your chromebook/box/base. And unlike with the Chromevox extension, the voice actually "works!I'll do an audio demo of the Acer CB 11 soon... Tried doing an unboxing recording, didn't work out sadly thanks to a certain tabby Grey cat.

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Re: Snow Race 1.0.1030.105 released!

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : vlad25 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Snow Race 1.0.1030.105 released!

if you like the board created by me from the recording    at the post 52  sendfeedback andiwill put the link with myboard.

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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade.

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cx2 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade.

Interestingly I know the mainstream games company Relic has used torrents for distributing updates as an alternative to straight HTTP downloads in the past.The thing with torrents is their distributed nature. That's the reason they're so difficult to pin down, and that's what makes them ideal for shady activity. It has plenty of other beneficial applications of course but since when did the media care about that?

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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade.

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : aaron via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade.

moderation (don't panic though!)I've decided to actually keep this topic here, because this could spark some interesting discussion. Usually though, be very careful here when talking about torrent-related content as a lot of it has unfortunately been considered crcaks, even though torrents don't necessarily have to mean that. So, here goes with the discussion:First, a heads up, the part that says "we will report it first" does not refer to this (the audiogames website) I think this is a copy pasted article. It's not spam, but the entire contents of the article was put here.I find it interesting that companies are going after the pirate bay, and I still wonder what to think about this. In the UK, the government consider the torrent websites illegal, and have actually started to make ISPs block websites like the pirate bay. As a moderator I can very safely say that I have not used torrents for a very long time, since way before the blo
 ck got initiated. The trouble is though, torrents themselves aren't bad. I could, in theory, put the exact same thing, such as a game walkthrough, found in a  zip file, make it into a torrent and send it to anyone like any other file. I think torrents became so infamous because of the pirate bay and such, and therefore have been permanently scarred with an image of, "oh hay this is a torrent file, let's ban it because it's got illegal content, period." That isn't technically true. While yes, I saw a lot of illegal content around on the torrent networks when I used it, it wasn't all bad. Remember, for instance, on this very forum in fact, someone uploading an Entombed let's play using torents?Now imagine this chilling scenario:Someone makes a website full of illegal zip files. The government then blocks it, then says, "we will not allow the use of zip files anymore" and this would also include rar files. I think ther 
 would be a gigantic backlash if that were to ever happen, because the fact of the matter it has never been about the torrent file itself, it's how the torrent files are being promoted that's causing governments to react big time. In fact, I'm quite sad to say that I think the pirate bay is promoting torrents way more than the official company behind the protocol itself, and that is really quite a shame as that's what's caused this incredibly bad thought processing on torrents.Which begs the idea: what next? If another protocol is developed that superceeds torrent, I'm wondering what steps might be taken to promote it as just a general means of use rather than floundering the scene with copyright material. Doubtless, it'll happen, but the way to move forward would be for the theoretical company, I think to get partners on board who distribute legal goods, be that free software, or even be that stuff to buy, and promote whatever the new format 
 is that way.What makes things even more interesting is that these pirates actually buy more music than their mainstream counterparts, so ther almost has to be a way that if a new format were developed, that everyone gets to use things the way they are intended. It'd be kind of cool if, for instance, you had a client, downloaded the file and the file would let you select some tracks that you can then stream maybe for a couple of months, while the rest could be played once or twice. This way, the ones you keep can hold you over until you had enough funds to pay and claim the hole album, and remove the limits.I don't really know how this would work for games, however, another popular source of piracy unfortunately. What could be done to saiciate these people's needs, those who want to not just try a demo, but try the full product or at least more of the full product than a usual demo, before buying? I've heard stories of this actually happening, and it i
 nterests me what the thought process is. Shouldn't a demo be enough to see what a game is like?

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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade.

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : aaron via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade.

moderation (don't panic though!)I've decided to actually keep this topic here, because this could spark some interesting discussion. Usually though, be very careful here when talking about torrent-related content as a lot of it has unfortunately been considered crcaks, even though torrents don't necessarily have to mean that. So, here goes with the discussion:First, a heads up, the part that says "we will report it first" does not refer to this (the audiogames website) I think this is a copy pasted article. It's not spam, but the entire contents of the article was put here.I find it interesting that companies are going after the pirate bay, and I still wonder what to think about this. In the UK, the government consider the torrent websites illegal, and have actually started to make ISPs block websites like the pirate bay. As a moderator I can very safely say that I have not used torrents for a very long time, since way before the blo
 ck got initiated. The trouble is though, torrents themselves aren't bad. I could, in theory, put the exact same thing, such as a game walkthrough, found in a  zip file, make it into a torrent and send it to anyone like any other file. I think torrents became so infamous because of the pirate bay and such, and therefore have been permanently scarred with an image of, "oh hay this is a torrent file, let's ban it because it's got illegal content, period." That isn't technically true. While yes, I saw a lot of illegal content around on the torrent networks when I used it, it wasn't all bad. Remember, for instance, on this very forum in fact, someone uploading an Entombed let's play using torents?Now imagine this chilling scenario:Someone makes a website full of illegal zip files. The government then blocks it, then says, "we will not allow the use of zip files anymore" and this would also include rar files. I think ther 
 would be a gigantic backlash if that were to ever happen, because the fact of the matter it has never been about the torrent file itself, it's how the torrent files are being promoted that's causing governments to react big time. In fact, I'm quite sad to say that I think the pirate bay is promoting torrents way more than the official company behind the protocol itself, and that is really quite a shame as that's what's caused this incredibly bad thought processing on torrents.Which begs the idea: what next? If another protocol is developed that superceeds torrent, I'm wondering what steps might be taken to promote it as just a general means of use rather than floundering the scene with copyright material. Doubtless, it'll happen, but the way to move forward would be for the theoretical company, I think to get partners on board who distribute legal goods, be that free software, or even be that stuff to buy, and promote whatever the new format 
 is that way.What makes things even more interesting is that these pirates actually buy more music than their mainstream counterparts, so ther almost has to be a way that if a new format were developed, that everyone gets to use things the way they are intended. It'd be kind of cool if, for instance, you had a client, downloaded the file and the file would let you select some tracks that you can then stream maybe for a couple of months, while the rest could be played once or twice. This way, the ones you keep can hold you over until you had enough funds to pay and claim the hole album, and remove the limits.I don't really know how this would work for games, however, another popular source of piracy unfortunately. What could be done to saiciate these people's needs, those who want to not jsut try a demo, but try the full product or at least more of the full product than a usual demo, before buying?

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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade.

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : aaron via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade.

Just a heads up, the part that says "we will report it first" does not refer to this (the audiogames website) I think this is a copy pasted article. It's not spam, but the entire contents of the article was put here.I find it interesting that companies are going after the pirate bay, and I still wonder what to think about this. In the UK, the government consider the torrent websites illegal, and have actually started to make ISPs block websites like the pirate bay. As a moderator I can very safely say that I have not used torrents for a very long time, since way before the block got initiated. The trouble is though, torrents themselves aren't bad. I could, in theory, put the exact same thing, such as a game walkthrough, found in a  zip file, make it into a torrent and send it to anyone like any other file. I think torrents became so infamous because of the pirate bay and such, and therefore have been permanently scarred with an image of, "oh hay
  this is a torrent file, let's ban it becasue it's got illegal content, period." That isn't technically true. While yes, I've seen a lot of illegal content around on the torrent networks when I ued it, it wasn't all bad. Remember, for instance, on this very forum in fact, someone uploading an Entombed let's play using torents?Now imagine this chilling scenario:Someone makes a website full of illegal zip files. The governemnt then blocks it, then says, "we will not allow the use of zip files anymore" and this would also include rar files. I think ther would be a gigantic backlash if that were to ever happen, because the fact of the matter it has never been about the torrent file itself, it's how the torrent files are being promoted that's causing governments to react big time. In fact, I'm quite sad to say that I think the pirate bay is promoting torrents way more than the official company behind the protocol its
 elf, and that is really quite a shame as that's what's caused this incredibly bad thought processing on torrents.Which begs the idea: what next? If another protocol is developed that superceeds torrent, I'm wondering what steps might be taken to promote it as just a general means of use rather than floundering the scene with copyright material. Doubtless, it'll happen, but the way to move forward would be for the theoretical company, I think to get partners on board who distribute legal goods, be that free software, or even be that stuff to buy, and promote whatever the new format is that way.What makes things even more interesting is that these pirates actually buy more music than their mainstream counterparts, so ther almost has to be a way that if a new format were developed, that everyone gets to use things the way they are intended. It'd be kind of cool if, for instance, you had a client, downloaded the file and the file would let you select
  some tracks that you can then stream maybe for a couple of months, while the rest could be played once or twice. This way, the ones you keep can hold you over until you had enough funds to pay and claim the hole album, and remove the limits.I don't really know how this would work for games, however, another popular source of piracy unfortunately. What could be done to saiciate these people's needs, those who want to not jsut try a demo, but try the full product or at least more of the full product than a usual demo, before buying?

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Alter Aeon December 2014 Updates

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Dentin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Alter Aeon December 2014 Updates

Alter Aeon is a well established MUD with a long history.  It is set in a world of swords and magic, with regular updates and system-wide events. The game is blind friendly for the visually impaired.New and updated areas:The underground city of Runn-Khal has opened on the island of Kordan. This level 16 zone provides a fun story and quest line for players not quite ready for Qoorik or the other high level areas on Kordan.The catacombs below Azeroth Keep on the island of Archais have been updated and expanded.  The area is now a level 27 group zone, and should provide lots of fun for players not yet ready to approach the mainland.On the mainland, three level 31 areas have opened to the northwest of Ralnoth:  Wallachia City, the Village of Vom, and the ruined castle of Radobaj.  These areas were put together by the builders Draak and Shadowfax.We've also put a lot of work into adjusting levels on the new player islands to s
 treamline them and make sure players can find zones appropriate for their level.Server code updates:Add item fetch jobs to the new player islands.  Use the 'job find' command on each island to hunt down available jobs.Additions to the various event commands, including teleporting players to event areas and making events more friendly to low level players.Vast improvements and additions to mob arenas.  Mob arenas can now be used as part of events, and there have been a lot of fixes to allow more class spells and skills to work in arenas.Casting cleric spells now requires the wisdom and charisma stats, instead of wisdom and intelligence.  The charisma requirement is currently very low - approximately ten points below the wisdom requirement.  The charisma requirement is expected to raise by one point every few months until it is four points below the wisdom requirement.  Existing players can buy a stat swap for appro
 ximately 150k gold to help update their character.There's a new Mush-Z release which fixes some startup/reinstall bugs.Game events:The December advent calendar has been running since the first, so don't forget to log in and get your advent gifts!  These special gifts only appear in December, so if you miss them, you have to wait until next year.Our year end events are coming up in a couple of weeks.  Check the 'show event' and 'show schedule' commands in the next few days for more information.Lastly, the Alter Aeon 20th Anniversary event is coming up the week of January 15th.  This marks two full decades of Alter Aeon, and we expect to see a lot of older faces as well as new.We hope to see you there!Alter Aeon MUDhttp://www.alteraeon.com

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Re: Leasey has been released! Every JAWS user should have Leasey!

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : keyIsFull via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Leasey has been released! Every JAWS user should have Leasey!

Another point about the market audience for Leasey is that as time goes on, there will be fewer and fewer computer-illiterate people out there. Technology has ensconced itself immovably in the world; people can no longer afford to ignore it. So you see that an extremely high percetnage of houses in first world countries have at least 1 computer. There are very few people, let alone blind people, who have never touched a computer in their life. So i wonder just how many people would gain anything new from Leasey basic. Leasey Advanced is a different matter and I bet there would be a far wider market audience for it than for Basic due to the fact that it is meant to automate or speed up a tasks that people already know how to do.

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Re: Anime discussion

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : assault_freak via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Anime discussion

applications key.

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Re: Anime discussion

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : darkabomination via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Anime discussion

Which key is that again?

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Re: Braillemon status update!

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Deng via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Braillemon status update!

@staindaddict:Your arrow keys move you around the maps. space bar is to bring up the menu.Z key is to back out of menus.enter: will activate the current selected item.Those are the basic keys.-There are other keys you can use, while you are walking around the different maps. I don't remember them all at the top of my head but, it doesn't hurt to experiment, and try them out.

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Re: Leasey has been released! Every JAWS user should have Leasey!

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : brad via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Leasey has been released! Every JAWS user should have Leasey!

Hi.I personally wil not be downloading a demo or buying this program, as has been said before, I feel it's useless to me.Yes this might be aimed at the older generation but I know of people who are 70 who can use a computer. OH they're not blind but they can do it.I don't like these kind of programs because they kind of shut you in a box and say, here, here's your tools and here's what you can do.I don't like that aproche because; 1. It limits you. Yes you might have this stuff but you will be stuck when it comes to updating your computer, doing virus checks and so on. 2. It makes you rely on a couple of shortcuts, when in actual fact there are quite afew more thatthe blind computer user needs to learn. 3. Yes the voice is nice, I'll saythat, but i'm not going to pay for a voice. IF it was a symth that might be another storie...OH and one more thing, IF you like the idea of spotifie being accessible, that�
 39;s cool but I'd personally not pay 100 pounds for that.

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Re: Ultra power latest version!

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : assault_freak via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Ultra power latest version!

Agree with Key completely. Damage output should be based on the specific weapon, not the level of the player. Finding ways to make yourself as OP as other players is not solving the balance issue...

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Re: Ultra power latest version!

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : keyIsFull via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Ultra power latest version!

The problem is that your suggestions won't solve the imbalance. it only contributes to it more by making more people higher level and thereby making it even harder for a lower level player to play.

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Re: Ultra power latest version!

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : defender via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Ultra power latest version!

He is using BGT, but you can find a good article about using wineskin to run windows based games through a rapper on apple vis, one that doesn't seem too hard to follow actually, and I agree about the imbalance, I suggest going roof jumping a few times, then buying a silenced mg or few, and some ammo, potions can help too but with out potion power they get to be useless really fast.Also try to get an admin to give you some AI's to shoot, tell the admin your level so they know which one to make the AI's, that'll get you some xp as well, the most common to see admins are blindboyblake, someone, david, dave, Masonasons, mason, the one and only ns, and lucas.

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Re: my fighting/mainstream games recordings

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : dd via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: my fighting/mainstream games recordings

wait... FF is actually playable now?

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Re: Braillemon status update!

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : The Imaginatrix via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Braillemon status update!

Can someone tell me how to find the Game Corner in Celadon? I've looked through all the buildings and can't find it anywhere! I beat Erica already. I want to do something interesting!

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Re: Braillemon status update!

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : staindaddict via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Braillemon status update!

Hi,I downloaded this game, and it's working fine. Are there instructions? I don't know which keys to use to move, and all that. There doesn't seem to be any instructions.

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Re: Anime discussion

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : assault_freak via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Anime discussion

Huh. Bizarre... It works just fine for me. Not sure what the problem could be... but I'll keep looking. Try using the context menu, I know for a fact that works because I made the recording that way by using the menu to switch tracks. lol

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Re: Anime discussion

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : darkabomination via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Anime discussion

Unfortunately it doesn't look like I won't get this to work. F2 seems to do nothing, and or NVDA just can't find any text or tab with the review cursor.

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Re: monkey business level 6

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : afsilva90 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: monkey business level 6

Hi everyone,Does anyone know how to play the Old Aztec Temple level in Monkey Business or not? I go to the room where there are acid pits and snakes and I avoid them just fine and I also avoid the poison arrows in the other room fine too. However, I have some trouble beating the cave-in that occurs in the other room. Can anyone help me out, please?Take care,André

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Re: monkey business level 6

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : afsilva90 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: monkey business level 6

Hi everyone,Does anyone know how to play the Old Aztec Temple in Monkey Business or not? I go to the room where there are acid pits and snakes and I avoid them just fine and I also avoid the poison arrows in the other room fine too. However, I have some trouble beating the cave-in that occurs in the other room. Can anyone help me out, please?Take care,André

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Re: Everything to do with Juiceing.

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : brad via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Everything to do with Juiceing.

HI everyone.I've decided to return my juicer, not because it's a bad product but because I had a bad reaction to the juices.Basicly I juiced greens today and after drinking the greens juice I felt sick and dizzy, so I wil say this, please becareful before buying a juicer. I'd talk to your doctore or someone who knows you and what you can and cannot have before buying one.I personally don't like juicing anymore, because of the taste of juices. For example, celery juice is like drinking salt water."defendor.The blades are housed inside a circular chamber that you cannot touch.As for fruit slash veg taking longer than eatch other, I'd not say so, no, you put the stuf in, it gets taken down into the machine, then chewed up.

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Re: Swamp, zombie fps by Aprone

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : nuno69 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Swamp, zombie fps by Aprone

When the new update will come?

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Re: Swamp, zombie fps by Aprone

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Aprone via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Swamp, zombie fps by Aprone

I agree with Mehgcap.  My first thought is that your antivirus or firewall is blocking the game and is waiting for you to allow Swamp to use the internet.John, when ammo vanishes feel free to contact me and let me know.  I will send out replacements.  The current version of Swamp has a bug that is solved in the next update.  The bug is related to inventory sizes because when I designed that system only a small number of items existed in the game as compared to now.  These days, people also never seem to die so inventory sizes can grow to gigantic sizes, and the bug can occur during a lag spike as you sign in.  It can chop off the end of the long inventory data stream, which is where the server stores your ammo and what armor you are wearing.  This is why those are the things people have vanish, if ever they are affected by this bug.  The bug also only affects people with large inventories.Once again, this bug is completely solv
 ed in the update, so we're just waiting on me to finish it so it can be posted.  The lousy inventory bug is one of the main reasons I really want to get this update finished soon, hahahaha.  I'm sure people hate having ammo vanish every now and then, though those people tend to buy millions of each time of bullet, which is only increasing their odds of having it vanish.  ROFL, it's a funny circle.

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Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Hayri Tulumcu via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3

Where can I find the Javelin? Thanks!

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Re: Ultra power latest version!

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : devinprater via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Ultra power latest version!

The one thing I'd want is that high-powered users shouldn't be able to just *shoot once* and the new player is dead. That's unfair. I come out of the safe zone and I'm dead? No. Another thing is, unless you're making it in BGT, I'd like a mac version.

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Re: Leasey has been released! Every JAWS user should have Leasey!

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cx2 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Leasey has been released! Every JAWS user should have Leasey!

If they can make alternative interfaces for inaccessible services then that has some value, though a screen reader agnostic program would have been a better option for that. I will concede that some people with no computer knowledge may benefit from this though a few may end up being closed in from it.What I'm concerned with is the usage of the term advanced. It sounds like their definition of advanced is someone who knows the difference between google and wikipedia. For someone who is truly computer literate Leasey in its current state is effectively £100 for a marginally more convenient way of doing things you already do. That said many of the things it mentions such as youtube, BBC iPlayer, audible books and so on I now use on my iPhone instead of a full computer anyway so for me it's rather behind the curve.

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Re: bk1 stuck after killing ultra brat boy

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : flame_elchemist via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: bk1 stuck after killing ultra brat boy

their is clipboard to sap with the NVDA translate add-on. then all you have to do after that is set your computers language to Japanese

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Re: bk1 stuck after killing ultra brat boy

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : connor142 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: bk1 stuck after killing ultra brat boy

use the translating guide for japanese games on this Forum.

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Re: Clok Mud

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : cx2 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Clok Mud

Oh my Utasa has already visited chapter house  There's some very useful gear there.WP85, you can type trance to start automatically casting spells at a target just like battle in melee and barrage at range with a bow or similar. The chance of damage from your channeled magic is indeed nice but the freezing aura ability which gives you the ability to channel cryomancy I find does quite a few more things than just that extra damage. Using both together can do up to 60 damage in one hit, 40 cold and 20 nether, but [[wow]] does it drain your energy quickly so I tend not to do that if I can help it.

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Re: Swamp, zombie fps by Aprone

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : mehgcap via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Swamp, zombie fps by Aprone

Sounds like you have an alert somewhere - Windows is asking for permission for Swamp to access the internet. See if you can find that dialog, and let Swamp through.

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Re: bk1 stuck after killing ultra brat boy

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : afsilva90 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: bk1 stuck after killing ultra brat boy

Hi everyone,I would like to play these BK games. However, since I don't know Japanese, I can't play them successfully. Are there any walkthroughs or playthroughs of these games or not? Are they in MP3 format or not?How can I play these games effectively? Could someone help me, please?Take care,André

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accessible android emulator?

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : keyIsFull via Audiogames-reflector


  


accessible android emulator?

Hi, I asked this question in another topic but I want to ask it again because I didn't get any responses there. Is there an accessible android emulator that I can use that has talkback preconfigured? I looked at an older topic from march 2-13 where they had a link to an accessible android emulator with talkback preconfigured, because people were trying to play Droid flip. I followed the link but the site had apparently been taken down. Also, do I need any extra software for the emulator to work? A lot of people mentioned virtual box. If there is software I ened, I would also like to know.

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Re: Braillemon status update!

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : The Imaginatrix via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Braillemon status update!

This has happened to me several times now, and it's honestly frustrating. I try to give my Pokémon a Potion, or Antidote, or Paralysis Heal or suchlike during a Trainer Battle, and get an error which basically makes the game crash. It's a good thing I save so often, really.Here's the Error code:___FATAL ERROR inaction number 1of Key Press Event for  Keyfor object UseBattle:Push :: Execution Error - Variable Index [6,6] out of range [302,3] - 140.bagInventory(100016,192006)at gml_Object_UseBattle_KeyPress_13Hope this can be fixed!  I can at least use Potions and such in battles with wild Pokémon and outside of battle, but not being able to use them in battle with trainers is ridiculous. It doesn't happen all the time, but if it happened while fighting a particular trainer, it'll happen with the same trainer if you try it again. I found this out in Rock Tunnel with Hiker Oliver.

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Re: my fighting/mainstream games recordings

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mr . brunete via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: my fighting/mainstream games recordings

added final fantasy XIII first gameplay.I'm playing the pc verssion, and fortunately, navigation is generally easy in this game!.

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Re: Swamp, zombie fps by Aprone

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : claudiogaranzini via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Swamp, zombie fps by Aprone

hi all! Claudio here! I've installed swamp in my notebook running windows 8.1! It goes perfectly when choosing the custom maps mode; but when choosing multiplayer, it asks mee the password and than it says me Login Failed! I've tried to do all the steps mentioned in the Swamp readme! But nothing seems to happen! The fact is that with my other laptop swamp runs very well!! Now, what can I do? The notebook has normal connection to internet, no problem at all but! Swamp seems iven not trying to connect at all because the Login failed message comes immediately after my insertion of the password! Thanks for your help! Bye for now! Claudio

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Re: Everything to do with Juiceing.

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Everything to do with Juiceing.

Very good descriptions, thanks that's interesting, if I ever get one I'll know more what to expect now, I wonder how they make it so the blades can't cut you, yet still obliterate the fruit's existance?Maybe it's because it's juicing, not blending, so it's way slower, because it needs to be done carefully.How long does it take for say, the average medium sized orange anyway?  And does it take longer for some foods than it does for others, or is it not able to do some because they are too hard or don't juice right?  These things I wonder... LOL 

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Re: Everything to do with Juiceing.

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Everything to do with Juiceing.

Very good descriptions, thanks that's interesting, if I ever get one I'll know more what to expect now, I wonder how they make it so the blades can't cut you, yet still obliterate the fruit's existance?Maybe it's because it's juicing, not blending, so it's way slower, because it needs to be done carefully.How long does it take for say, the average medium sized orange anyway?  And does it take longer for other foods than others, or is it not able to do some because they are too hard or don't juice right?  These things I wonder... LOL 

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Re: Everything to do with Juiceing.

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Everything to do with Juiceing.

Very good descriptions, thanks that's interesting, if I ever get one I'll know more what to expect now, I wonder how they make it so the blades can't cut you, yet still obliterate the fruit's existance?Maybe it's because it's juicing, so it's way slower, because it needs to be done carefully, how long does it take for say, the average medium sized orange anyway?  And does it take longer for other foods than others, or is it not able to do some because they are too hard or don't juice right?  These things I wonder... LOL 

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Re: Swamp, zombie fps by Aprone

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : john via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Swamp, zombie fps by Aprone

I just wanted to mention that there've been some reports of people losing items lately when they log in. I logged on my hc character this morning, and was missing 700 5.56mm and about the same of 7.62 (all I had). At the same time someone else had lost several thousand grenades and shotgun shells in normal mode. Both of us had our weapons unloaded, though I was still wearing my armor, while he wasn't. I have once come on to find no armor on, but I don't think it was tied to losing any other items. From the conversation we had, it looks like this isn't a localized issue, though I'm not sure how often its striking,  or in what fassion.

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I'm tired of windows switching back to microsoft anna

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : burak via Audiogames-reflector


  


I'm tired of windows switching back to microsoft anna

Hi, When I restart my computer, it switches back to Microsoft anna. I keep resetting the voice to e-speak. I use windows7 64 bit and I am doing this via the 32-bit control panel. I will be happy if you help.

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Re: my lp thread

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : connor142 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: my lp thread

here's part 5 of my bk2 lp! https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/164 … rebbel.mp3

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Re: Braillemon status update!

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : kelwl via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Braillemon status update!

i am currently stuck at the ford, i entered from the south entrance, but can't seem to find the exit to the north. can anyone help?

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Re: Anime discussion

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : assault_freak via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Anime discussion

Here's a side by side comparison between the two for an anime. This is a fight scene from Fate / Stay Night, another one of my favorites. It's a short anime, but as you can tell from this clip, the music and sound are awesome. The English dub is second, so you get a translation of all the dialog which is actually a little off. The grunts and kiai of the English dub are actually not too bad compared to other anime that I've watched, buut still a good example of the difference and why I personally find the Japanese superior. The original acting doesn't sound like both of them are trying to ruin their vocal cords or force something unpleasant on each other. lolhttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/339 … 20clip.mp3

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Re: Anime discussion

2014-12-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : assault_freak via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Anime discussion

Well, I wasn't just speaking about Naruto. lol Watch any anime with action, and you'll hear that during fight scenes, kiai in Japanese is always much more convincing due to the martial arts thing. And I think that Japanese and other Asian languages as a rule are much more expressive in that aspect, again because of how integrated martial arts and combat have been for those cultures. And martial arts there aren't just a physical thing, study of them goes way beyond anything out here, and things like Kiai go so far beyond a simple shout, and it's all connected to breathing and whatnot. one of the reasons why it's so easy to tell whether a fighter in a movie or even real life has studied oriental fighting arts, or more western combat styles because Kiai from Asian practicioners tend to be from the belly and are very explosive, whereas western fighters shout a lot with their throats and sometimes just let it go no further than an explosive release of breath, w
 hich I think fulfills the same purpose as a typical kiai without the intent to use the yell itself as a psychological way of intimidation. But I digress. Martial arts are a thing of mine. haha.Ah cool. I have an interest in history and culture too, as well as knowing the language. Regarding KM player, press f2 then use screen review to find the tab that says subtitle processing and click on it. Focus should then switch to the tree view where all the settings are, then go down to multisub etc and tab until you find the list of tabs. Go to text to speech and they should work there.Yeah, it's definitely very interesting to see the opposite reaction in Japan than here, but I don't think a lot of anime fans realize that is the case. It's like when a game comes out in both Japan and the states and is made by the American company, the Japanese crowd 90% of the time will prefer the English dub. Take Injustice by NRS for example. That fighting game was released in
  Japan with somewhat of a Japanese dub, but even I as someone who knows the language found it weird... and prefer the English. My only gripe is that for this game at least, NRS only dubbed certain things... story cutseens and ingame dialog, but they don't actually have the Japanese actors record different combat sounds, which bothers me as a voiceacting enthusiast. lol Especially because Japanese companies dub 100% of the games they localize.

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