[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
There is an enhancement request filed at http://bugs.slimdevices.com for this. See #4172. As for the problem with WMA, I sent an e-mail to Linn Records asking if they would offer FLAC for download. Here is the answer: "..We will be offering Flac in the future,although I don't have a schedule for when we will do this yet." This is good news.. Olav Sunde truckfighters wrote: "I recently purchased some WMA 9.1, 24-bit, 88.2 kHz lossless studio master tracks from LinnRecords.com that I wish to transcode to Flac 24-bit, 44.1 kHz. This is needed since my music players (Squeezebox 3) cant decode WMAs." thats what I read in another thread and I got my files from the same source page. any converter appreciated which could turn those WMA lossless into plain WAV 24 bit 96 kHz samples...(and upsamples 88.2 to 96 kHz) ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
"I recently purchased some WMA 9.1, 24-bit, 88.2 kHz lossless studio master tracks from LinnRecords.com that I wish to transcode to Flac 24-bit, 44.1 kHz. This is needed since my music players (Squeezebox 3) cant decode WMAs." thats what I read in another thread and I got my files from the same source page. any converter appreciated which could turn those WMA lossless into plain WAV 24 bit 96 kHz samples...(and upsamples 88.2 to 96 kHz) -- truckfighters Transporter -> REDGUM RGASIL -> REDGUM RGi120ENR AMP -> REDGUM LS Cable -> Infinity Kappa 8.1i -> Live! truckfighters's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7852 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
24 bit 88 kHz? It shouldn't show that... To transcode to WAV, set the checkbox then DE-SELECT the "WMA - WMA (built-in)" box. -- Mark Lanctot "It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response." - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
hi and thanks for the quick response! slimserver runs on windows 2000. tried the microsoft tool wmal2pcm.exe to convert the WMA to wav and it worked (for the file). but when playing the 24 bit 88 kHz (?) wav-file through transporter the only thing I heard was terrible 24 bit pink noise! on the computer, I have a the video lan client (VLC) player, which played the converted WAV file. transporter does not play the WMA lossless file even when set conversion to WAV format in slimserver settings. what the heck? when I try to play the WMA lossless file with TP, the server shows an windows error message box (german): Der Prozedureinsprungpunkt "WMCreateReader" wurde in der DLL "WMVCore.dll" nicht gefunden. this means something like the DLL file couldn't find the entry point or something like that? windows 2000 related? I just upgraded from 6.5.0 to 6.5.1 but I don*t think thats the issue? any other tool than the microsoft tool to convert wma lossless to plain WAV? thanks for the tip with spectrum analyzer, but I'm far from that :) -- truckfighters Transporter -> REDGUM RGASIL -> REDGUM RGi120ENR AMP -> REDGUM LS Cable -> Infinity Kappa 8.1i -> Live! truckfighters's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7852 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
truckfighters;174191 Wrote: > well I also downloaded the high-end 24 bit master files from > linnrecords.com but at first they wouldn't play on transporter (set WMA > to built-in WMA). will try the above (to flac or wav) later. What OS are you using? WMA lossless is transcoded (as opposed to WMA lossy, which uses the built-in decoder). On Windows this is through Windows Media Player. On Linux it's more tricky (something about mplayer?) > but - is there no tool which truly converts the 24 bit material into a > proper readable format for transporter with no loss? It should have worked - try transcoding to WAV. > is WAV suitable for 24 bit / 96 kHz ? > > or FLAC? Yes to both. I have several 24/96 test files and they play fine on the Transporter in both WAV and FLAC form. Note: do not enable the spectrum analyzer screensaver or you'll peg the Transporter's CPU and get stuttering. See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29059 -- Mark Lanctot "It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response." - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
well I also downloaded the high-end 24 bit master files from linnrecords.com but at first they wouldn't play on transporter (set WMA to built-in WMA). will try the above (to flac or wav) later. but - is there no tool which truly converts the 24 bit material into a proper readable format for transporter with no loss? is WAV suitable for 24 bit / 96 kHz ? or FLAC? or what else would you suggest? really curious now... -- truckfighters Transporter -> REDGUM RGASIL -> REDGUM RGi120ENR AMP -> REDGUM LS Cable -> Infinity Kappa 8.1i -> Live! truckfighters's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7852 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
ted_b;171301 Wrote: > Slimserver plays it fine on the Transporter and Squeezebox3, but only > when I told Slimserver to convert WMA -> FLAC or WAV (not WMA built > in). The players show it as a WMA file, playing at 22.7khz with a > bitrate of a high 2283kbps VBR, but I'm not so sure that's not info > coming off the tag, not what the network is seeing. Not sure how to > know whether I'm hearing true 24/88 on TP (and of course 24/48 on SB3). > ? Oh right, SlimServer doesn't support WMA lossless - forgot about that one. 22.7 kHz though? Weird. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
Jitterbug;170241 Wrote: > It does seem that buying CDs is still the preferred option. > > -Also, I see it as the spirit of the squeezebox - a further move to a > purely digital medium Well, to nit-pick, the CD *is* a purely digital medium. -- FatElvis2000 FatElvis2000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6725 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
Mark Lanctot;171207 Wrote: > It depends what they actually are. > > They indicate the Studio Masters are 24-bit. I downloaded both the > 16-bit and 24-bit samples and foobar2000 indicated they were both > 16-bit, 44.1 kHz (CD equivalent). Perhaps foobar2000 downsamples WMA > to 16/44.1? > > Linn does not indicate what sample rate the Studio Masters are, only > that they are 24-bit. > > The Squeezebox 3 can play up to 24-bit, 48 kHz. 24-bit, 96 kHz > material is downsampled to 24-bit, 48 kHz, apparently very well. The > Transporter can play 24-bit, 96 kHz material natively (without > resampling). Neither can play material encoded higher than 24-bit, 96 > kHz. I tried one song at $2.75 for the Studio master. The Liszt Piano Grand Etudes (track 4) was downloaded as a Studio Master (WMA lossless). It's properties info says it is a 24/88 WMA 9.1 lossless 2 channel, VBR 100 quality, and runs at 2.27mps. Slimserver plays it fine on the Transporter and Squeezebox3, but only when I told Slimserver to convert WMA -> FLAC or WAV (not WMA built in). The players show it as a WMA file, playing at 22.7khz with a bitrate of a high 2283kbps VBR, but I'm not so sure that's not info coming off the tag, not what the network is seeing. Not sure how to know whether I'm hearing true 24/88 on TP (and of course 24/48 on SB3). ? -- ted_b ted_b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3289 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
fathom39;170828 Wrote: > Rest assured the companies will tell the consumers why they need it... > once they all have been brought into the fold. There will be > opportunities to buy premium or upgraded music with better bitrates and > they will be advertised using age-old something-new-under-the-sun > techniques. While I never underestimate marketing underhandedness these days, I wonder what's in it for companies to offer lossless downloads? They will consume more storage space and bandwidth. For a 1-million album library, -considerably- more storage space and bandwidth! I suppose they'll charge more for them. And then they'd kick the "MP3s are so yesterday!" marketing campaign into high gear, pretending they invented the lossless format... It's just hard to see this coming from companies that taught the consumer so well that 128 kbps = "CD quality" (and even invented the phrase "CD quality" which they can use to indicate anything they want.) With the financial carrot there, maybe. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
The Smokester;171202 Wrote: > Does anyone know if it's possible/how to/ play Linn Sounds "Studio > Master" downloads at full resolution through Squeezebox v3? It depends what they actually are. They indicate the Studio Masters are 24-bit. I downloaded both the 16-bit and 24-bit samples and foobar2000 indicated they were both 16-bit, 44.1 kHz (CD equivalent). Perhaps foobar2000 downsamples WMA to 16/44.1? Linn does not indicate what sample rate the Studio Masters are, only that they are 24-bit. The Squeezebox 3 can play up to 24-bit, 48 kHz. 24-bit, 96 kHz material is downsampled to 24-bit, 48 kHz, apparently very well. The Transporter can play 24-bit, 96 kHz material natively (without resampling). Neither can play material encoded higher than 24-bit, 96 kHz. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
Does anyone know if it's possible/how to/ play Linn Sounds "Studio Master" downloads at full resolution through Squeezebox v3? -- The Smokester The Smokester's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9198 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
TCM;170797 Wrote: > I can recommened Ian Parkinsons slimserver plugin 'Magnatune for > SlimServer' (http://magnaslim.sourceforge.net/). Thanks for the tip - both the site and the plugin are great. It's really refreshing to see music downloads handled right. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
Mark Lanctot;170440 Wrote: > 99.5% of consumers would ask "what is lossless, why's it bigger and why > do I need it?" Rest assured the companies will tell the consumers why they need it... once they all have been brought into the fold. There will be opportunities to buy premium or upgraded music with better bitrates and they will be advertised using age-old something-new-under-the-sun techniques. -- fathom39 fathom39's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1000 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
Havoc;170034 Wrote: > www.magnatune.com I can recommened Ian Parkinsons slimserver plugin 'Magnatune for SlimServer' (http://magnaslim.sourceforge.net/). > ...allows you to play Magnatune previews through your Squeezebox. -- TCM http://www.last.fm/user/ThisCharmingMan/ TCM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=702 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
adamslim;170443 Wrote: > Yes, that's called piracy. The clue's in the name ;) > > Adam hahaha, nice one Adam ;-D -- TCM http://www.last.fm/user/ThisCharmingMan/ TCM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=702 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
This is off the topic but since someone was mentioning that Amazon was a good way to get music I figured that I would mention yourmusic.com I've been using them for over a year now and I love it. Every CD that they sell is $7 including SACD's (it used to be $6 but went up to $7 on the first of this year). This includes shipping. The only catch is that you have to set up a queue and but one disc from your queue each month. The other thing is that most of their CD's are manufactured specifically for BMG but I haven't had any problems with that, they sound perfect and all of the artwork is included - even with box sets. They mostly have mainstream stuff, you won't find hard to get stuff here but for $7 it's a steal. You can but as many discs as you like but you must buy one from your queue each month and you can cancel at anytime. The only other odd thing is that you can only add single discs to your queue (no box sets or multi disc sets). I've probably bought over 400 CD's from them so far, at $6 I was buying stuff that I *might* listen to but even $7 is a steal. -- fred7 fred7's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6523 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
Are these lossless download sold with the proper tags? ie all the contributors (musos), engineers etc. Gus -- gusi gusi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3801 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
Look at this link: http://www.linnrecords.com/ Seems Linn is even offering their 24bit masters for download! Jitterbug wrote: I'm wondering what download stores are selling music in lossless formats, ideally without DRM. I came across musicgiants.com but its selection is pretty limited. Have any of the big vendors started this yet? It's a nonsense to me to pay for lossy downloads. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
mikeruss;170320 Wrote: > I'm not sue if this is true, I have never tied but if you search for > band name or song then *.flac on this site http://thepiratebay.org/ > some say there is music there. Yes, that's called piracy. The clue's in the name ;) Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
tomjtx;170243 Wrote: > BTW, why do they need to drm lossy 128kbps files anway? 99.5% of consumers would ask "what is lossless, why's it bigger and why do I need it? 128 kbps is perfect already - it's CD-quality, isn't it? DRM? What's that? I can play it on my iPod and on my PC in iTunes, what the problem?" Unfortunately we're stuck with a crappy situation and most people don't even know it. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
Linn records has some excellent recordings available as windows media lossless files without DRM. A lot of their releases are available at CD quality and some at even higher bitrates and sample rates than CD. http://www.linnrecords.com/index.aspx -- Nikhil Nikhil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=993 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
If you like classical music, the Philadelphia Orchestra has an online music store that sells recordings of their live concerts in MP3 & FLAC format (yes, lossless downloads!). I have downloaded a few things, and it all works well and sounds great. Very progressive -- I wish more orchestras would do this. See: http://www.thephiladelphiaorchestra.com/ (The Philadephia Orchestra has always been out in front: it was the first symphonic orchestra to make electrical recordings (1925), the first to perform its own commercially sponsored radio broadcast (1929), the first to perform on the soundtrack of a feature film (Paramounts The Big Broadcast of 1937), the first to appear on a national television broadcast (1948), the first American orchestra to record the complete Beethoven symphonies on compact disc (1988), and the first major orchestra to give a live cybercast on the internet (1997).) Turns out that they partnered with a site called www.nugs.net, which makes most of its money selling downloads of live rock concerts of bands like the Dave Matthews Band, Metallica, Phish, the Grateful Dead, Barenaked Ladies, Govt Mule, Widespread Panic and the String Cheese Incident. (Presumably, also in lossless formats?) So, from Beethoven to Barenaked Ladies... -- muski muski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3670 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
I'm not sue if this is true, I have never tied but if you search for band name or song then *.flac on this site http://thepiratebay.org/ some say there is music there. -- mikeruss mikeruss's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9023 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
mikeruss;170213 Wrote: > I buy all 99% of my music from www.cd-wow.com Cheap as chips!! Plus it > often works out quicker (delivery and ripping ;-)) than downloading > large FLAC files. There is also the added benifit of having a hard copy > of your tunes. > > I can't see a reason why I would download, apart from maybe a listen to > a track or two of an album then I will decide to buy. Perhaps because there are only one or two tracks on an album to which you'd want to listen? I'm in exactly that position at the moment, having about two tracks from each of half a dozen albums that rank among my top favourites, but also knowing that I really do not want the rest of the albums. Downloading is lots cheaper in those circumstances. However, I'm still never going back to any downloading poor quality lossy, as in iTunes music store. Most of these single tracks were originally bought from iTunes, and I've decided that I can put up with them no longer. Either I download lossless files (preferably AIFF or ALAC) or else I grit the teeth and return, wailing, to haunt Amazon again. Geraint. -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
I would like lossless and DRMless downloads for the convenience as well. BTW, why do they need to drm lossy 128kbps files anway? The audio is already more degraded than making a tape of a vinyl record. Seems like their whole justification is full of wholes. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
It does seem that buying CDs is still the preferred option. My reasons for seeking downloads are :- -(Fairly) instant gratification. Downloading 400 -500 MB is actaully quite a bit faster than even fedex overnight. -Just to buy indivudal tracks -No unnecesaary packaging and associated environmental costs -Also, I see it as the spirit of the squeezebox - a further move to a purely digital medium -- Jitterbug Jitterbug's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
I buy all 99% of my music from www.cd-wow.com Cheap as chips!! Plus it often works out quicker (delivery and ripping ;-)) than downloading large FLAC files. There is also the added benifit of having a hard copy of your tunes. I can't see a reason why I would download, apart from maybe a listen to a track or two of an album then I will decide to buy. -- mikeruss mikeruss's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9023 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
adamslim;170128 Wrote: > Sorry, my tongue was firmly within my cheek in that post. Since buying > CDs is usually cheaper than downloading (especially since Amazon makes > it so easy to buy from the USA, and it's $2 to £1), the old fashioned > way works for me :) > Adam 2.00 = 1 pound 1.30 = 1 euro = another reason to impeach Bush :-) OTOH I'm paid in euros when I"m in Europenah,,, I still want to impeach Bush :-) Sorry for going OT -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
crooner;170105 Wrote: > Ok, so it's just plain ol' Amazon > I thought it was some wacky amazon alternative! > Thanks for clarifying... Sorry, my tongue was firmly within my cheek in that post. Since buying CDs is usually cheaper than downloading (especially since Amazon makes it so easy to buy from the USA, and it's $2 to £1), the old fashioned way works for me :) Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
wdrazek;170087 Wrote: > I wouldn't trade with these rats if they were the only online service > around even though all my music is legal. This is from the Music > Giants Privacy Policy: > > "... If you have registered with us, we collect information about what > music files you possess on the PC you use to sign up with our service > and any other PC's networked to that PC. We also collect information > regarding where you obtained that music. We may collect information > concerning licenses to access music obtained from third party > providers. We collect information concerning the bit rate of the encode > of music files contained on your PC and/or any PC connected to that PC." Sorry to turn this into a music giants thread, but I just puked in my mouth a little. Here's the bit of stereophile journalism I read before mentioning them in the other thread http://blog.stereophile.com/cedia2006/091606giants/ . Looks like they set up an unmanned booth. Hmm... -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
Ok, so it's just plain ol' Amazon I thought it was some wacky amazon alternative! Thanks for clarifying... aubuti;170103 Wrote: > I believe that the last part of the URL in www.amazon.whateverTLD stands > for "whatever Top Level Domain". So that would be www.amazon.com or > www.amazon.co.uk or whatever is appropriate for where you live/shop. -- crooner SB3 with Custom Linear Power Supply Lite Audio DAC-60 Tube DAC VPI Scout with Benz Micro Glider M2 Audio Research PH3, SP16L and VS110 Vandersteen 2Ce signatures, 2W subwoofer. crooner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
crooner;170080 Wrote: > The URL is giving me an error. Is this correct? or part of the "take > days" feature? I believe that the last part of the URL in www.amazon.whateverTLD stands for "whatever Top Level Domain". So that would be www.amazon.com or www.amazon.co.uk or whatever is appropriate for where you live/shop. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
Maybe half of the music avaliable at allofmp3.com was recorded in a lossless format. They allow you to choose the format for your download (FLAC is an option) and charge by the megabyte. Be warned that the legality of downloads from there is in question. If an album says OE (Online Encoding) it was recorded as a lossy free format LAME MP3 at 384 kb/s. In that case the best option is to download in that format, which is a pain (because very few media players support it) but avoids transcoding artifacts. If it says OEEX (Online Encoding EXclusive?) it was recorded losslessly. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
I wouldn't trade with these rats if they were the only online service around even though all my music is legal. This is from the Music Giants Privacy Policy: "... If you have registered with us, we collect information about what music files you possess on the PC you use to sign up with our service and any other PC's networked to that PC. We also collect information regarding where you obtained that music. We may collect information concerning licenses to access music obtained from third party providers. We collect information concerning the bit rate of the encode of music files contained on your PC and/or any PC connected to that PC." -- wdrazek wdrazek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
The URL is giving me an error. Is this correct? or part of the "take days" feature? adamslim;170053 Wrote: > I generally recommend www.amazon.whateverTLD. You need a little > patience (it can take days, scarcely acceptable in these days of > instant gratification and high bandwidth), but you get lossless music > with no DRM, a convenient system to store your backup in, often > includes front *and back* cover art :) > > Adam -- crooner SB3 with Custom Linear Power Supply Lite Audio DAC-60 Tube DAC VPI Scout with Benz Micro Glider M2 Audio Research PH3, SP16L and VS110 Vandersteen 2Ce signatures, 2W subwoofer. crooner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
I generally recommend www.amazon.whateverTLD. You need a little patience (it can take days, scarcely acceptable in these days of instant gratification and high bandwidth), but you get lossless music with no DRM, a convenient system to store your backup in, often includes front *and back* cover art :) Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
www.magnatune.com -- Havoc Havoc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5064 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
Check http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21708 and http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27177 Watch out for MusicGiants - see http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=164080&postcount=5 -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles