Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-05-06 Thread CardinalFang

cliveb;199530 Wrote: 
 I fear that the future is not at all bright for the Transporter, which
 is a crying shame, because it's a *stunning* piece of kit.

Well being as there is a sale on for Squeezeboxes, I would expect them
to also become Logitech branded as well come June 1st when the sale
ends. Perhaps even a new model or one with a new remote as well.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-05-06 Thread Andyoz

cliveb;199530 Wrote: 
 This really is a huge mistake, marketing-wise. The audiophile community
 just isn't going to believe that a box with a Logitech badge can
 possibly be high-end. Yes, it's irrational snobbery, but it's the way
 the marketplace works. I fear that the future is not at all bright for
 the Transporter, which is a crying shame, because it's a *stunning*
 piece of kit.

I wonder if Logitech will cut the RRP of the unit.  Surely they can
pump them out at reasonable cost once they get a head of steam going on
the production line.

I wouldn't pay £1,300 for a Logitch box.  But if it was say £700, who
knows?  Overall it may be a good thing as it may get the younger
generation back into *real* hifi as opposed to mp3...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-05-04 Thread davidcotton

Also www.advancedmp3players.co.uk can get them in with a couple of days
notice.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-05-04 Thread Ray70

As of a couple of days ago, www.mediahome.co.uk had a black TP in stock.
Speak to Richard - he's been very helpful talking me through my
purchase. And no, I have nothing to do with the company!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-05-04 Thread Heuer

Nope both awaiting stock. Transporters are going through a Logitech
re-branding and transisioning phase so they will proudly announce
their new corporate logo on switch on!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-05-04 Thread adamslim

Well my soon-to-arrive SB+ is logo-free :)

Are the nice backlit remotes Logitech-branded now?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-05-04 Thread cliveb

Heuer;199513 Wrote: 
 Nope both awaiting stock. Transporters are going through a Logitech
 re-branding and transisioning phase so they will proudly announce
 their new corporate logo on switch on!
This really is a huge mistake, marketing-wise. The audiophile community
just isn't going to believe that a box with a Logitech badge can
possibly be high-end. Yes, it's irrational snobbery, but it's the way
the marketplace works. I fear that the future is not at all bright for
the Transporter, which is a crying shame, because it's a *stunning*
piece of kit.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-05-04 Thread Robin Bowes
adamslim wrote:
 Well my soon-to-arrive SB+ is logo-free :)

Not if you upgrade to the latest firmware it isn't. :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-05-03 Thread Heuer

Had a sudden passion to own a Transporter (I did order one from
Progressive last July - never heard any more from them!) but it seems
no one has one, either in the UK or the US. Current predicted date is
22 May (black only) and they are being re-badged/re-packaged as
Logitech.

I guess I will have got over the impulse within a couple of weeks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-05-03 Thread Andyoz

I am not up to date with the whole Logitech thing.  Are they really
rebadging it as a Logitech Transporter.  

Oh boy, that's a really bad marketing move with Audiophiles
unfortunately.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-14 Thread KeithL

Adam,

I got a TP on 7 day sale or return from Ripcaster. I didn't go for it
and Ripcaster even arranged collection. The service from Ripcaster was
second to none.

At the time I had a stand alone sb3. I preferred the sb3's looks and
simplicity. I bought a Shek 1 and was pleased with the sonic
improvement. Within a couple of months I played devil's advocate by
getting a Benchmark Dac1 on 7 day sale or return from Digital Village.
The BM Dac1 is what I was looking for. Now I have the attack and deep
bass of my Naim cd front end which rrp is about GBP6K. The sb3 plus BM
Dac1 is a great pairing.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-14 Thread adamslim

KeithL;194899 Wrote: 
 I got a TP on 7 day sale or return from Ripcaster. I didn't go for it
 and Ripcaster even arranged collection. The service from Ripcaster was
 second to none.
 
 At the time I had a stand alone sb3. I preferred the sb3's looks and
 simplicity. I bought a Shek 1 and was pleased with the sonic
 improvement. Within a couple of months I played devil's advocate by
 getting a Benchmark Dac1 on 7 day sale or return from Digital Village.
 The BM Dac1 is what I was looking for. Now I have the attack and deep
 bass of my Naim cd front end which rrp is about GBP6K. The sb3 plus BM
 Dac1 is a great pairing.

Thanks for sharing this.  What did you not like about the Transporter?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-14 Thread ModelCitizen

KeithL;194899 Wrote: 
 Within a couple of months I played devil's advocate by getting a
 Benchmark Dac1 on 7 day sale or return from Digital Village. The BM
 Dac1 is what I was looking for. Now I have the attack and deep bass of
 my Naim cd front end which rrp is about GBP6K. The sb3 plus BM Dac1 is
 a great pairing.
 Keith
That's amazing. I've still not found any combination of network
player/dac (including the Transporter) that sounds as likeable as my
CDX. I tried the SB3 (inc. linear PSU) with a Benchmark Dac1, Perpetual
Technologies P-A3/P-A3, and NOS Arcam BlackBox and found the DCA1 the
least likeable. Next to the CDX it was cold, clinical, mechanical and
quite tiring over time. However, I agree it did have attack
although I didn't feel that there was anything special about the bass.
I'd be mildly surprised if Adam, who appears to prefer timbre over
detail, would be satisfied with the Dac1...

I heartily agree with Adam's sentiment regarding the sound quality of
analogue/CD/network player. I am heartily pissed off that each new
technological revolution appears to degrade the sound of my music still
further. The NAIM CDX gave me the nearest sound to analogue (within my
budget) and was acceptable.. but I've yet to hear a network player or
network player/dac combination that pops my cork.

I'd be very interested in your SB+ thoughts Adam... it's a shame I
never get to London or I'd bring up my Transporter for a comparison
(you provide the Merlot)... but saying that, it can sometimes takes
weeks for the differences in the sound of a unit to sink into me.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-14 Thread KeithL

MC
Were you using a fully bedded in BM Dac1? As with Naim gear, it takes
time to come on song.
Many have said the cdx2 to be clinical and bright. I don't know the
original cdx so I can't comment.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-14 Thread adamslim

ModelCitizen;194978 Wrote: 
 I'd be very interested in your SB+ thoughts Adam... it's a shame I never
 get to London or I'd bring up my Transporter for a comparison (you
 provide the Merlot)... but saying that, it can sometimes takes weeks
 for the differences in the sound of a unit to sink into me.

Well we could always swap for a week or two; just what happens if we
agree on which is best?

I agree that it can take ages to decide what is actually best -
spotting differences is easy, it's sussing out which works with the
rather impressive NZ sauvignon blanc I'm drinking at the moment (the
death of South African cricket, once we beat them next week...).  It's
all kinda zingy over full-bodied right now - heck, I might even like
your Naim system over my valves.  Sanity will be restored tomorrow.

Anyway, the network player really gets me playing more music (whereas I
think CD over vinyl reduced it), so getting a really good-sounding
player is something I'm looking forward to.  Now I just need to agree
with the wife what colour...

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-14 Thread ModelCitizen

KeithL;194984 Wrote: 
 MC
 Were you using a fully bedded in BM Dac1? As with Naim gear, it takes
 time to come on song.
 Many have said the cdx2 to be clinical and bright. I don't know the
 original cdx so I can't comment.
 Keith
Yes, the DAC1 (now sold) was fully bedded in. It was used in my system
for two months before it hit me why I had strange little headaches and
didn't listen to music for as long periods as I used to. I bought it
second hand.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-14 Thread ModelCitizen

Skunk;194991 Wrote: 
 After reading the stereophile review, it appears the Naim has no SPDIF
 output because they feel it compromises the sound quality, but then
 again that's what they say about the display too...
 Perhaps someone could modify your CDX to have either BNC input + clock
 output, or more thriftily, do it with an SB3 using I2S signals directly
 to the pacific microsonics chip of the Naim (at which time you sell the
 transporter to recoup!). It would be a network streamer plus DAC that
 would be guaranteed to pop your cork, plus you could stream and decode
 your HDCD FLAC albums properly :-)

Possibly, but NAIM are just about to release a new thingy that has
DAC's in it that can be used by third party devices like the SB3. It's
too bleedin' expensive (as all NAIM stuff is) but if it gives me the
convenience of the SB3 with the NAIM sound I can rest at last.
If it does sound like a CDX I'd probably stick the damn Transporter
through it as I need to the two displays due to the distance my rack is
from my seating position (one of the reason's I could not consider the
SB+)..

I hate hifi.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-13 Thread funkstar

komikada;194422 Wrote: 
 I've been trying to get a QNAP TS-101 for some time (unavailable) and
 I'm under the impression that the units that ship now do not have
 SlimServer pre-installed anymore (at least the specs don't mention it).
 Can anyone confirm this?
Only units supplied by Progressive AV or one of their re-sellers, come
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-13 Thread Mark Scanlan

I am either going to get a Transporter or SB+ (www.at-tunes.co.uk)
(£1000). From what I have picked up the SB+ sounds better than the
Transporter although I don’t see any brand value or volume with the SB+
and so long term backup is more doubtful with SB+. I’m keen to get
whatever info I can, including where to get them with slimserver
installed, which would aid me in coming to a decision, as I may not get
a chance to listen bore I buy since I am living in Brussels and will
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-12 Thread komikada

willyhoops;193897 Wrote: 
 
 I am thinking of the transporter plus the 400GB QNAP TS-101 with
 SlimServer installed. Anyone know a better place in the UK than this
 ripcaster place?
 Cheers

I've been trying to get a QNAP TS-101 for some time (unavailable) and
I'm under the impression that the units that ship now do not have
SlimServer pre-installed anymore (at least the specs don't mention it).
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-12 Thread davidcotton

http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shop/MP3_HIFI_Systems.19/Qnap_Systems_Inc.126/TS101-400GB/Qnap_TS-101_400Gb___Slimserver.1040.html


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-11 Thread Mark Lanctot

willyhoops;193911 Wrote: 
 ah you have been married too long... my fiancee is a serial ripping
 machine :-) still, dbpowerAmp and her don't get on - and there is
 always a chance that at end of day I find she accidently clicked
 something and all the results are useless.

So do you mean to say she rips CDs for you when you're at work?!?

Man.  You should marry her.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-10 Thread adamslim

wullsy;193750 Wrote: 
 Adam - did you actually contact the Swiss reseller to see if pickup was
 an option? Just curious, as I'm in a similar quandry to you. I've tried
 all sorts of experimentation with my SB3, but it still lacks a certain
 something compared to my cd player - an Arcam CD23. I've considered a
 SB+, but its black, and I don't like the wood round the sides...fussy I
 know! I'm considering the Transporter, but having not heard it, it
 would be a risk.

I haven't got that serious yet as I first need to know what to buy! 
However, there are websites in Switzerland that advertise at that price
and have shops, but stock appears to be limited at the mo (more chance
of silver, it seems - which would be my preference).

I'm not sure how flexible the finish of the SB+ is - I know Patrick
does options for the wood, but there may be more than that.

BTW my Shek DAC is a good improvement on the standard SB3, but still
not as good as my Shanling CD player :(

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-10 Thread ModelCitizen

There was a mention in the forums of Audio-T about to stock the
Transporters. Might be worth ringing them up to see if it's true.

Couldn't you get a demo and a good price in Amsterdam? I hear they have
good drugs there. The beer is pretty decent too.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-10 Thread willyhoops

I just found this web site:

http://www.ripcaster.co.uk/

They have the Transporter at £1299 inc vat  delivery to uk address and
in stock too. And the squeezebox is £200. Now I know it would be a bit
cheaper in the USA delivered in an unmarked box that did not get the
attention of customs but what's £300 between friends? 

I am thinking of the transporter plus the 400GB QNAP TS-101 with
SlimServer installed. Anyone know a better place in the UK?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-10 Thread willyhoops

If you want to save every penny then I would consider buying mail order
from a small company in the USA like the one i mentioned before and
talking to them so they send it to you in a box maked faulty unit
repaired at maybe $45 for 5 day delivery. i think thats the standard
and common way to get cheap electronics in the uk. for US electronics
that's the route. for camera eqipment you go to hong kong and find the
company from ebay.

Frankly I am ok with to paying up to get it from the UK as long as it
arrives within a few days. The four month wait for the opus has driven
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-10 Thread gbruzzo

willyhoops;193897 Wrote: 
 I just found this web site:
 
 http://www.ripcaster.co.uk/
 
 They have the Transporter at £1299 inc vat  delivery to uk address and
 in stock this week. And the squeezebox is £200. Now I know it would be a
 bit cheaper in the USA delivered in an unmarked box that did not get the
 attention of customs but what's £300 between friends? 
 
 I am thinking of the transporter plus the 400GB QNAP TS-101 with
 SlimServer installed. Anyone know a better place in the UK than this
 ripcaster place? 
 
 No need for me to hear it - I take it on trust it's a decent product.
 Would be hard to test without having a real relaxed enviroment, lots of
 time and good equipment to compare.
 
 I did have the Olive Opus on order and after a four month wait and
 still no sign I am giving up. The Opus has a real small screen and I
 realize that even the small screen size of the Squeezebox/Transporter
 is enough of a pain. I know in about two years this kit will be a total
 write off with much better screens showing album art and more than 35
 characters at a time, and built by a proper audio company like quad at
 half the price - but such is life.
 
 Cheers

I bought a Transporter from Ripcaster. It had problems (see the threads
on Transporter is dead). The (owner?) of Ripcaster, Jon Nelson
responded really quickly and got me a brand new one, whilst arranging
for the old one to be picked up. So kudos to him. 
All in all a very good experience, and I don't live 500 miles away,
so...

regards,

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-10 Thread willyhoops

thanks thats really great feedback. are you happy now with your
transporter? any complaints at all?

also did you use the ripcaster cd scanning service or do you know about
it? i am totally fed up scanning cds in the buggy nightmare which is
dbpoweramp and the slow as hell eac. i built a program for editing the
flac tags in excel so i can edit tags to get their output just the way
i like it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-10 Thread gbruzzo

willyhoops;193904 Wrote: 
 thanks thats really great feedback. are you happy now with your
 transporter? any complaints at all? i read the threads it looks like
 the transporter is prone to breaking down. i already had a broken SB3
 (returned it after digital output jumpy but other SB3s in house OK).
 why can't sony / quad etc innovate so we don't have to buy downmarket
 cheap consumer brands like logitech. 
 
 also did you use the ripcaster cd scanning service or do you know about
 it? i am totally fed up scanning cds in the buggy nightmare which is
 dbpoweramp and the slow as hell eac. i built a program for editing the
 flac tags in excel so i can edit tags to get their output just the way
 i like it.

Very happy with the Transporter, agree with you with the brand issue
(why did they not keep Slimdevices - it was innovative and
interesting - this will come back and bite them hard). 
I did not use the cd ripping facility of Ripcaster. My suggestion  is
for you to call them directly (I found speaking with Jon Nelson very
useful) - he might be able to help you with some of your concerns
(quality and all). You can find the number on the webpage
www.ripcaster.co.uk 

Hope all of this is of help, 

Regards,

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-10 Thread gbruzzo

willyhoops;193904 Wrote: 
 i built a program for editing the flac tags in excel so i can edit tags
 to get their output just the way i like it.

I have used Helium music manager for managing my music database: Not
sure it covers FLAC, but it should. It has to be bought, but it is
quite a remarkable product (for automation purposes). 

as far as ripping is concerned: can one not rent out a serial cd ripper
,so as to mechanize the procedure to the max?

Cheers, 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-10 Thread gbruzzo

ModelCitizen;193882 Wrote: 
 
 Couldn't you get a demo and a good price in Amsterdam? I hear they have
 good drugs there. The beer is pretty decent too.
 
 MC

Man I have to use this one with my wife...Hehehehe... Darling, I have
to take a day trip to Amsterdam for a special testing session. 
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-10 Thread willyhoops

ah you have been married too long... my fiancee is a serial ripping
machine :-) still, dbpowerAmp and her don't get on - and there is
always a chance that at end of day I find she accidently clicked
something and all the results are useless. 

my excel flac editing program is fantastic. i can point it at c:\music
and it dumps all the tags on 50,000 odd tracks into the spreadsheet
very quickly or i can load subdirectories of c:\music instead. i can
run global edit replace J S Bach with Bach. I can zoom in with
autofilters, sort by up the three columns blah blah. It's a revolution
compared to tag  rename etc. Will post it as freeware on the net
shortly. applied for the domain www.exceltagger.com but it's not up
yet.

thanks again for feedback on transporter. can't wait for it now. right
now i am using SB3s with Onkyo CR715 midi systems plugged into Quad 21L
speakers for the dining room, bedrooms and study. But in the living room
I have a much bigger system with no digital optical in, and since i
never got around to buying an external dae i can't use the sb3. the
transporter will bring the living room into sync with the rest of the
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-09 Thread amcluesent

EU consumer laws that allow you to return a product within a certain
time period for a full refund. 

Distance selling regulations. Return most things bought on-line within
seven days for a full refund.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-09 Thread Fifer

Pat Farrell;193577 Wrote: 
 Just checked with British Air, they want £469 each way. (on short 
 notice) You could do it in 'a day' but you'd spend a lot of time in the
 
 air. You can leave Heathrow 11:00 and get to Dulles at 14:00
 then take the 19:00  back which gets you into Heathrow at 07:05,
 sadly the next day. If you need more time to clear customs, you could
 catch the 21:55 back, which lands at 10:10.
 
 You'd be fresh and ready to go to work.

You can do Zurich return for £50 though. 

I'm very happy with my TP. UK distance selling regs allow you to return
it within 7 days if you buy on-line and the £1100 price (ex-VAT) is only
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-09 Thread chinablues

It's simple really.  Do as I did to get mine here in China.  Send the
wife to the USA on a shopping trip  she brings it back for you. Of
course you need to find a friend to stay with  to get the TP delivered
etc.  At 1.97$ to Sterling, she could rapidly save the airfare.  (well
that was my wife's logic!)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-09 Thread davidcotton

Or the original poster could send it off to somewhere like bolder to
have the sb3 modded.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-09 Thread tomjtx

davidcotton;193659 Wrote: 
 Or the original poster could send it off to somewhere like bolder to
 have the sb3 modded.

Better to buy a SB+ and not deal with importing, support issues etc.

I found the Bolder mods not to sound as good as the TP in my system.

BTW, aren't a few forum members in the UK getting together to compare
the SB+ and the TP?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-09 Thread adamslim

tomjtx;193669 Wrote: 
 Better to buy a SB+ and not deal with importing, support issues etc.
 
 I found the Bolder mods not to sound as good as the TP in my system.
 
 BTW, aren't a few forum members in the UK getting together to compare
 the SB+ and the TP?

Sending stuff to the States and back is probably setting yourself up
for endless grief from customs, as well as couriers etc.

It was me who wanted to get a demo of the TP and SB+, but no-one has
volunteered to host.  My screaming newborn is unlikely to be conducive
to detailed listening tests (or he may have the best hearing, who
knows?).  I'm still keen, but have no-one else interested, it seems.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-09 Thread Patrick Dixon

adamslim;193672 Wrote: 
 
 It was me who wanted to get a demo of the TP and SB+, but no-one has
 volunteered to host.You are welcome to come here and hear both.

No screaming newborns.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-09 Thread willyhoops

You can use these guys for squeezeboxes and transporters and the olive
opus:

http://www.americantechpushers.com/

they are pretty friendly people and am sure will deliever in any
packing you like if you give them a call.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-09 Thread adamslim

Patrick Dixon;193683 Wrote: 
 You are welcome to come here and hear both.

Is that your Bristol location?  I could park sprog with his
grandparents down in Somerset.  Is London possible (faster for me!)?

BTW are you a TP reseller?  That way you could ask the question which
one would sir like to buy?, rather than would sir like to buy it?
(or would sir like to remove the cloth from his ears?).  It would
certainly be my preference to have both for a day, and return the one I
like least.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-09 Thread wullsy

Adam - did you actually contact the Swiss reseller to see if pickup was
an option? Just curious, as I'm in a similar quandry to you. I've tried
all sorts of experimentation with my SB3, but it still lacks a certain
something compared to my cd player - an Arcam CD23. I've considered a
SB+, but its black, and I don't like the wood round the sides...fussy I
know! I'm considering the Transporter, but having not heard it, it
would be a risk.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-08 Thread Pat Farrell
adamslim wrote:
 Ergo (slight logical jump) I need a better wireless streaming audio
 solution.  

Did you try the obvious and use it wired?

Just for problem isolation, even if the WAF won't allow it.

 Transporter.  Problem is that I can't listen to it before I buy, and
 there are none in the UK.

So none of the UK folks do the return no hassle part?

So fly to California and listen.

 DAC.  Basically discounted; I quite fancy my SB3/Shek for the kitchen
 system, so this offers no discount on the TP, as I'd need a new SB3
 anyway.

And new SB3 are $230 right now, which is only about £150 at fair 
exchange rates.



 How happy are TP owners now? 

I'm happy. I am using it instead of my SB+Benchmark DAC-1.
It has better WAF.

 Do we actually think the TP will go up in price in the UK?

I never understood UK prices. Lots of things cost as much in pounds 
sterling as dollars, which is insane, the pound is worth much more than 
the dollar. Shipping is just not that much. Your VAT, etc. are steep, 
but not that steep.


 Is a Switzerland purchase genuinely bonkers?

I don't think so, I would not buy it without listening. Altho I would 
want to listen in my living room with my speakers and amp and room 
acoustics.

Just pop over the pond, fly into Washington Dulles airport,
buy me a pint and listen to mine in my living room. I'm only a half hour 
taxi from the airport.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-08 Thread tomjtx

Adam,

If flights are cheaper, come to Dallas.
Or , better still, make a tour of the US TP owners so you can make a
truly informed decision.

Since you will have a pint at Pat's we'll have Mcallans 18 year  here.

Have a California cab while in Cali and I GAURANTEE you will like the
TP a lot.

I've had my TP since they 1st came out and I still think it's great.
Not bored at all, which is more than I can say for my last girlfriend
:-)

Seriously, I suspect you would be very happy with that purchase for a
long time.
But don't UK retailers offer a 30 day trial?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-08 Thread adamslim

Cheers guys

The main issue seems to be the 30-day trial.  AFAIK there is no such
trial period in the UK.  Irritating, deeply.

Your US offers are generous, but I can do Zurich in a day return, and
the TP is cheaper there that in the US (comments on international
pricing welcome :) ) plus the flight is much less and they have loads
of drugs there...

All I really want is to try it in my system; I've never bought anything
close to that price unheard and I suspect I'm not close to doing it
now.

Pat, I have tried the SB3 wired and can hear no difference, even on 24
bit FLACs - wireless is not the problem, the SB3 quality is.  Is the TP
advantage over SB3/DAC-1 sonic or aesthetic, primarily?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-08 Thread Pat Farrell
adamslim wrote:
 bit FLACs - wireless is not the problem, the SB3 quality is.  Is the TP
 advantage over SB3/DAC-1 sonic or aesthetic, primarily?

The sounds are both good, I don't have the ability to describe the 
difference. The idea reminds me of The Absolute Sound folks talking 
about chocolate and yin/yang.

The TP is clearly better looking. But the Benchmark is not bad looking, 
it very 'serious' in a pro-audio way.

I do not use the knob. I played with it when I first got it, but
I use my laptop and the browser 99% of the time.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-08 Thread Mark Lanctot

adamslim;193554 Wrote: 
 they have loads of drugs there...

I ain't touching that one with a 10-foot pole...

Also the thought of some poor Transporter being banged around on a
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-08 Thread Pat Farrell
adamslim wrote:
 Your US offers are generous, but I can do Zurich in a day return, and
 the TP is cheaper there that in the US 

Just checked with British Air, they want £469 each way. (on short 
notice) You could do it in 'a day' but you'd spend a lot of time in the 
air. You can leave Heathrow 11:00 and get to Dulles at 14:00
then take the 19:00  back which gets you into Heathrow at 07:05,
sadly the next day. If you need more time to clear customs, you could
catch the 21:55 back, which lands at 10:10.

You'd be fresh and ready to go to work.

Of course, the £938 would eat all the 'savings' If you bought long in 
advance, it looks like you could the seat for £191 each way.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-08 Thread tomjtx

British Airways has direct from Heathrow to Dallas sometimes as low as
200 pounds round trip, but you have to keep a lookout for prices like
that.

I thought there were EU consumer laws that allow you to return a
product within a certain time period for a full refund. 
Wouldn't that apply to the TP as well?

BTW, I think there is a great deal of difference between an SB and a TP
in terms of resolution, detail etc.

The SBLavry combo is great and the difference is probably more a
matter of taste, but I finally went with the TP.


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