Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Ramblings ...

2009-03-27 Thread bernt

http://flac.sourceforge.net/itunes.html


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Ramblings ...

2009-03-27 Thread darrenyeats

There's a virtual filesystem on Linux called mp3fs. Using this you can
have just one set of real files in FLAC yet they can be presented as
MP3 files virtually. They are only decoded from FLAC and encoded into
MP3 when they are accessed. All tags are preserved.

I've used mp3fs on Linux successfully (and it works with Samba too, so
you can export the virtual mp3 files across a network). It might be
worth trying out with iTunes, but it depends what kind of things iTunes
does to files in its library...not sure.

A quick google suggests it works on Mac too:
http://www.uwe-arzt.de/patchmp3fs
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Ramblings ...

2009-03-27 Thread JJZolx

Mnyb;410397 Wrote: 
 Whats wrong with transcoding on the server for proprietary formats (if
 you insist on using them ) ? it will load the cpu a bit but a decent
 mac/pc/server will cope with it.
 
 It won't hurt sound quality at all, lossless is lossless.
 you can have alac transcoded to flac.

Yeah, I'm afraid I don't see the problem either.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Ramblings ...

2009-03-26 Thread funkstar

MDSmith;410195 Wrote: 
 Am I missing something? Can I stream premium source (AAC+) internet
 radio to the Transporter and have it play in native mode? Can I play my
 Apple Lossless in 'native' mode (please no mails on the great Apple
 nasties - it works, it is solid and it has the market ...).
No and no. AAC+ and ALAC both need to be transcoded by the server for
the Transporter to play them.

There are some very good reasons for this. There isn't enough space in
the firmware to be able to have all the codecs out there. There is also
the time/cost to port these codecs over to the Ubicom processor vs. the
benefit they would give to the customer base.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Ramblings ...

2009-03-26 Thread Pale Blue Ego

MDSmith;410195 Wrote: 
 Can I play my Apple Lossless in 'native' mode (please no mails on the
 great Apple nasties - it works, it is solid and it has the market
 ...).
 
 I would like the Transporter to stand out (again) as a PREMIUM
 product.
 
 MD Smith

Are you saying the Transporter once had the ability to play Apple
Lossless natively and now it doesn't?  Because if that were true, you
might have a valid complaint.  Otherwise, no.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Ramblings ...

2009-03-26 Thread Phil Leigh

Time to junk the apple formats. Sorry.
Apple nearly had the market... but now they don't. Dropping DRM was the
beginning. Dropping the proprietory codecs will be the end.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Ramblings ...

2009-03-26 Thread DCtoDaylight

Phil Leigh;410318 Wrote: 
 Time to junk the apple formats.snip Dropping the proprietory codecs
 will be the end.

I gotta admit, I'm nervous of just this...   iTunes is one of the best
packages I've used for organizing music, but apple haven't demonstrated
that they're really concerned with hi quality.  Their low end players
don't support lossless, and their high end touch and iPhone products
shipped with an obvious bug when playing lossless (random drop outs). 
Inspite of the fact that I like iTunes, I've moved my Slim audio files
out of Apple lossless and into Flac...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Ramblings ...

2009-03-26 Thread MDSmith

Thx for the confirmation that I have not missed something (ie. the
ability to play AAC+ streaming and ALAC in native)regarding the
Transporter. And while I appreciate the comments about 'size of
firmware' and 'cost to transcode' there remains this huge presence of
iTunes out there.  You might not like it but it is there and it is the
dominate factor (at least according to the stats I see).

So, there must be a middle ground here.  I am not going to convert all
of my CDs to FLAC so they work with the Transporter as that causes an
issue with my iPod. As mentioned, before the proverbial Catch 22!

As mentioned, I want the Transporter to be the premium platform for
digital music at an audiophile level.  What is wrong with that goal /
objective?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Ramblings ...

2009-03-26 Thread Mnyb

Whats wrong with transcoding on the server for proprietary formats (if
you insist on using them ) ? it will load the cpu a bit but a decent
mac/pc/server will cope with it.

It won't hurt sound quality at all, lossless is lossless.
you can have alac transcoded to flac.

Besides there are some kamikaze pilots ;-) here that insist on having
alac and wma lossles on linux based NAS boxes ? that would be like me
shopping for cars in uk and complaining that the steering wheel is at
wrong side.

Use your alac or wma lossles with an os/hardware that has natural
support for it, makes transcoding painless (unless you like pain ).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Ramblings ...

2009-03-26 Thread DCtoDaylight

MDSmith;410393 Wrote: 
 there must be a middle ground here.  I am not going to convert all of my
 CDs to FLAC so they work with the Transporter as that causes an issue
 with my iPod. As mentioned, before the proverbial Catch 22!

I know too well what you mean!  I hate maintaining two copies of
everything, but that's actually what I'm doing right now...  Flac on
Linux for Squeeze center, and Apple lossless on OSX for the ipod.  But
to even get down to two, I had to throw out an ipod shuffle, because it
won't do lossless, and iTunes wouldn't allow me to transcode to better
than 128...

It should be noted though, that some of the problem lies with Apple. 
AFAIK, they have never released their lossless codec algorithms
(certainly not to the open source world), they've only provided hooks
to allow you to use iTunes or QuickTime to compress or expand.  Those
tools that don't rely on Apple software, reverse engineered the
codec...  That means they're always at the mercy of Apple making
changes


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Ramblings ...

2009-03-26 Thread Pat Farrell
MDSmith wrote:
 So, there must be a middle ground here.  I am not going to convert all
 of my CDs to FLAC so they work with the Transporter as that causes an
 issue with my iPod. As mentioned, before the proverbial Catch 22!

I don't understand the problem here.
Make your library in flac, point your Transporter to it.
Use flac2mp3' to make a complete parallel copy of your library, point
your iPod to it.

There are 2 Terabyte disk drives for $100, and the MP3 library will be
only 20 to 25% of the size of the flac library.

Or complain to Apple that they are stuck in dark ages.


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