[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2014 Sponsored by AvPlan EFB
Hi All, It's less than five weeks to go until JoeyGlide 2014 - aka the Junior Preworlds, to be held at Narromine from 5 to 13 December. We now have 30+ entries in the competition from all over Australia and overseas, as well as another 16 taking part in the coaching week making it the biggest JoeyGlide in years (if not ever?). A reminder that the $100 *early bird* discount on entry fees ends at the end of this week, so if you or a junior you know are thinking about joining us then jump on to our website and get your entry form (and payment) in. If you would like to come, but you're having difficulties getting there for any reason, please get in touch and we'll do our best to help you join us. We are also pleased to announce AvPlan EFB as the major sponsor for this years event. Sponsorship has been provided courtesy of Simon Hackett, one of the owners of the company and a long time supporter of JoeyGlide, and host of this list. Check out AvPlan’s website at www.avplan-efb.com for more information. More information on JoeyGlide is available on our website - http://joeyglide.juniorsoaring.com.au. If anyone has any more questions or wants any more information on JoeyGlide, then please get in touch. Regards Adam Webb Contest Director JoeyGlide 2014 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2013
From Liam Donald, CD of JoeyGlide2013: Good Afternoon, This years Joeyglide is the 10th Australian Junior Nationals. The competition is being held at Narromine, NSW. The final night dinner will also coincide with a 10 year celebration. The final night dinner, is an open invitation for anyone who has previously or currently are involved with Joeyglide. The dinner will be held at Narromine Soaring Club on the Saturday 14th December 2013 . If you wish to attend the dinner and are not attending the competition please RSVP to myself prior to 7th December 2013. The final night dinner will be a fantastic celebration of 10 years of junior gliding in Australia, an event not to be missed. Thanks, Liam Donald Comp Director Joeyglide 2013 Mob: 0400 805 892 Email: ldonal...@hotmail.com Po Box 244, Mackay, Qld 4740 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2013
From JG2013 Contest Director, Liam Donald: Hi Everyone, Please see the below details of this years Joeyglide competition. Joeyglide also provides coaching for young pilots not able to, or ready to fly in the competition. I would encourage you to promote Joeyglide to your junior club members, who are looking to compete with like minded junior pilots, further their cross country skills and meet other junior pilots from around the country. Furthermore, as this year is the 10th Australian Junior Nationals, we will be having in conjunction with the Final Night Dinner, an informal 10 year reunion, and would like anyone who has participated in Joeyglide in any facet to attend. Please contact me directly to RSVP. Place: Narromine, NSW - Home of the Junior Worlds Dates: Saturday 7 December to Saturday 14 December 2013 (Saturday 7 December being the official practice day) Final Night Dinner: 14 December 2013, venue TBA. Entries Open: Monday 25 March 2013. Entry Fees: $150 competition entry, $100 coachee entry (please note that the entry fee's will increase to $250 and $150 respectively after 1 November 2013). Over the next few months we will be providing more details and specifics about the competition. For further information and to keep up to date with the day to day developments, please see: www.joeyglide.com.au http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.joeyglide.com.auh=7AQFVulSqAQE2n9HNqr-MUb1-OSUuIE-PEEv7rmJPxSUBngs=1 and The Aus Junior Gliding Facebook Group If you have any questions or queries, please contact me directly. Thanks, Liam Donald Comp Director Joeyglide 2013 Mob: 0400 805 892 Email: ldonal...@hotmail.com mailto:ldonal...@hotmail.com Po Box 244, Mackay, Qld 4740 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide Results
Hi All, (Slightly belated) JoeyGlide results are below. A huge thanks to Lake Keepit SC for making us all very welcome, Ian Downesour CD for the week and everyone else who helped out as safety officers, cooks, marshalls, wing runners, crew, coaches, tuggies. Thanks also to the pilots who made it the biggest and best JoeyGlide in years, with 29 coachees and competitors. Finally, thank you to our sponsors, without whom we wouldn't have been able to run such a successful contest and coaching week: Internode, OAMPS, Go Soaring, Soar Narromine, Maddog Composites, Experience Flight, Web Adventures and GFA and NSWGA. * **Final Trophies*: *1st Place (Maurie Bradney Trophy)*: Andrew Maddocks *2nd Place (Bernard Eckey Award)*: Colin Stauss *3rd Place (Nick Gilbert Trophy)*: Nathan Johnson *Southern Cross Trophy (Highest Placed First Timer)*: Ben Talbot *Joey Cup (Handicapped hours/points):* Sam Schoneveld *George Lee Trophy (Highest Handicapped Speed):* Matt Scutter (~122kph) *Schempp Hirth (Pilots Choice for Airmanship and Citiz**enship)*: Martin Rule *Junior Trans Tasman*: Nick Oakley (NZ) *Cath Conway Trophy (Highest Placed Female*): Ailsa McMillan *State of Origin*: Team South Australia (Colin Stauss, Eric Stauss Matt Scutter) Well done to everyone! Final results are all up on http://soaringspot.com/jg12/ . Cheers Adam ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide Early Bird Discount Closes
Hi All, Just a reminder for any Juniors planning on entering JoeyGlide (Australian Junior Nationals + Juniors XC Coaching Week) this year that the early bird discount closes at the end of this month. We have 18 entries so far, and 6 pilots taking part in the two seater coaching, meaning this year is looking like the biggest and best in a long time! Get in before 1st November to receive a $100 discount on comp entry ($150 down from $250) or a $75 discount on the coaching deposit ($75 down from $150). More information on the event is at www.JoeyGlide.com. Any questions give me an email. Cheers Adam Webb President AJGC ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JOEYGLIDE 2012
Hi All, Entries for *JoeyGlide 2012* are now open! Dates: *9th-16th December* (note Sunday-Sunday to avoid clashing with the NSW State Comps the week before) Location: *Lake Keepit, NSW*. As in the past JoeyGlide will comprise of the Australian Junior Nationals for pilots who are 25 or under on the 9th December, as well as a coaching week for junior pilots who are solo but would benefit from some XC coaching before flying in a comp on their own. As in previous years we will be using the Juniors' own handicapping system which allows any glider with a wingspan of 15m (or less) to compete competitively, dry or wet. // The entry fee is just $150 (increasing to $250 after 31st Oct) for the contest, and a $75 deposit towards your flying (increasing to $150) is all that is required to register for the coaching week. We have entries rolling in already, so any junior pilots out there get your name down! This is going to be the biggest and best JoeyGlide so far so if you have any Junior members in your club who aren't on this list, please pass the message on to them. For more info and to register go to _www.JoeyGlide.com_ . For those who are interested you can search for JoeyGlide2012 on Facebook, Twitter or join the 'AUS Junior Soaring' Facebook group. Any comments or questions please drop me an email. Cheers Adam Webb President AJGC ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide website, Live!
JOEYGLIDE = 10-17th December, 2011. Kingaroy Airfield! G’day everyone, It’s with great pleasure, with thanks to the tireless efforts of a junior member Ailsa McMillian, the JoeyGlide website (www.joeyglide.com.au) is now live! Please join in with me in thanking Ailsa for designing this site, as well as one of our long term JoeyGlide sponsors, Heath L’Estrange at www.webadventures.com.au for hosting this site. The big ticket item in this announcement is that we are now able to open the entries (and expressions of interest) to JoeyGlide! Please check out the website, and if you’re a junior pilot that it going to be joining us for the event – we’d love to see your name on the entries list! I look forward to bringing you and the world more news as it develops in the news section, via the tweets, facebook group - JoeyGlide News (for everyone who’s interested in following the event), tracking site, and the scoring live** (see below!). Safe Circles, Adam Woolley SPONSORS!! INTERNODE! www.internode.on.net On behalf of the Australian Junior Gliding movement, we’d love to thank Simon and his Internode team for continued long term support of the JoeyGlide event! Please check out their website at www.internode.on.net “Internode is an Australian owned, national Internet services provider. We love the Internet - and Internode delivers so much more than just an Internet connection.” Gliding Queensland! To Foster, Promote and Develop Gliding throughout the Region We have an amazing culture up in Queensland due to the massive support we all receive from GQ, so come up and have a glide one day, month or year! Thanks to Dave Donald and his team for helping the juniors out this year. I assure you it will be one to remember! For all your news, info on Queensland Clubs, development, history and heaps more – please check out: www.glidingqueensland.org.au **Swift Avionics Thanks to Mark Newton of Swift Avionics (http://www.swiftavionics.com.au/), JoeyGlide is yet again able to lead the way in competition soaring in Australia. This year we’ll be running the fabulous new device called the DittoLog (www.dittolog.com) in 25 of the competitors glider. This device brings you wirelessly online flight sheets, online logbooks, online accounting interface. DittoLog saves time, improves efficiency and money! Where we’ll be leading the way though, by the time that the junior gets out of their cockpit, they’ll have been scored! SimJet Thanks for providing some great prizes and sponsorship for this and future years JoeyGlide, we’ll be sure to announce them in the coming issues! Come and try your hand at flying a Boeing 737 simulator, Nick Kranenburg will make the simulator available at a special hire rate for any member of the GFA HGFA when it’s not being used by a airline academy! Check it out at www.simjet.com.au ; Go Soaring “Products for the soaring enthusiast” Thanks again to Al Sim of Go Soaring, who has been a great supporter of JoeyGlide over the years – by providing prizes, shirts and his enthusiasm for the sport. Check out his website: www.gosoaring.com.au WebAdventures Thanks to Heath L’Estrange for hosting the JoeyGlide website, his support has made my life much easier on the web front! Web Adventures is an Australian business based in Adelaide providing specialised Web Hosting, Design, and Marketing services to customers. We pride ourselves on providing a level of service that makes your website development project as pain free as possible. Please check out: www.webadventures.com.au ; ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide website, Live!
Sorry Swift Avionics, Mark Fisher is the man to thank! Regards, Adam Woolley From: Adam Woolley Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:33 PM To: AUS Soaring Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide website, Live! JOEYGLIDE = 10-17th December, 2011. Kingaroy Airfield! G’day everyone, It’s with great pleasure, with thanks to the tireless efforts of a junior member Ailsa McMillian, the JoeyGlide website (www.joeyglide.com.au) is now live! Please join in with me in thanking Ailsa for designing this site, as well as one of our long term JoeyGlide sponsors, Heath L’Estrange at www.webadventures.com.au for hosting this site. The big ticket item in this announcement is that we are now able to open the entries (and expressions of interest) to JoeyGlide! Please check out the website, and if you’re a junior pilot that it going to be joining us for the event – we’d love to see your name on the entries list! I look forward to bringing you and the world more news as it develops in the news section, via the tweets, facebook group - JoeyGlide News (for everyone who’s interested in following the event), tracking site, and the scoring live** (see below!). Safe Circles, Adam Woolley SPONSORS!! INTERNODE! www.internode.on.net On behalf of the Australian Junior Gliding movement, we’d love to thank Simon and his Internode team for continued long term support of the JoeyGlide event! Please check out their website at www.internode.on.net “Internode is an Australian owned, national Internet services provider. We love the Internet - and Internode delivers so much more than just an Internet connection.” Gliding Queensland! To Foster, Promote and Develop Gliding throughout the Region We have an amazing culture up in Queensland due to the massive support we all receive from GQ, so come up and have a glide one day, month or year! Thanks to Dave Donald and his team for helping the juniors out this year. I assure you it will be one to remember! For all your news, info on Queensland Clubs, development, history and heaps more – please check out: www.glidingqueensland.org.au **Swift Avionics Thanks to Mark Newton of Swift Avionics (http://www.swiftavionics.com.au/), JoeyGlide is yet again able to lead the way in competition soaring in Australia. This year we’ll be running the fabulous new device called the DittoLog (www.dittolog.com) in 25 of the competitors glider. This device brings you wirelessly online flight sheets, online logbooks, online accounting interface. DittoLog saves time, improves efficiency and money! Where we’ll be leading the way though, by the time that the junior gets out of their cockpit, they’ll have been scored! SimJet Thanks for providing some great prizes and sponsorship for this and future years JoeyGlide, we’ll be sure to announce them in the coming issues! Come and try your hand at flying a Boeing 737 simulator, Nick Kranenburg will make the simulator available at a special hire rate for any member of the GFA HGFA when it’s not being used by a airline academy! Check it out at www.simjet.com.au ; Go Soaring “Products for the soaring enthusiast” Thanks again to Al Sim of Go Soaring, who has been a great supporter of JoeyGlide over the years – by providing prizes, shirts and his enthusiasm for the sport. Check out his website: www.gosoaring.com.au WebAdventures Thanks to Heath L’Estrange for hosting the JoeyGlide website, his support has made my life much easier on the web front! Web Adventures is an Australian business based in Adelaide providing specialised Web Hosting, Design, and Marketing services to customers. We pride ourselves on providing a level of service that makes your website development project as pain free as possible. Please check out: www.webadventures.com.au ; ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide Raffle
Hello All, Great to see the Summer season is holding on into the cooler months, and fingers crossed it’s better in 2011/2012! The reason for this message is to advise everyone that the drawing of the raffle will be postponed until Saturday the 25th June, 2011. Why? Unfortunately as many of you will already know, the QLD Easter Competition has been cancelled, and most of the Easter events are happening after the original draw date of April the 24th. I hope that everyone understands, after all, it’s all in what I believe is a good cause! JoeyGlide is shaping up very nicely indeed behind the scenes, with little tasks being achieved weekly. So far we’re looking at a competitor list in excess of 30!! Please check out the Soaring Australia magazines for all the updates and news! If you haven’t bought a ticket yet, and would like to – then please see the details below! It’s a great opportunity to help get more juniors in the sky @ JG, and to help 4 international juniors achieve success in Germany! If you’re not in the SE QLD area to take advantage of the SIMJET 1st prize, why not give it as a present to someone in the area, or wait for a trip North to take advantage of this great offer :) GET A JUNIOR PILOT INTO A GLIDER OVER GERMANY AND GET YOURSELF INTO THE COMMAND SEAT OF A B737 The Australian Junior Gliding Club is raising funds for the national team at this year’s Junior Worlds in Germany – and giving you (and one guest) the chance to win an hour in the SimJet B737NG Simulator worth $450 That’s first prize in a raffle which will also raise funds for the Junior Nationals – aka JoeyGlide – and other junior events. Second prize is a Spot Connect Tracker valued at $229. Third prize a SeeYou Desktop Licence worth $195. Tickets at $20 single, 3 for $50 or 7 for $100 are available online at www.ajgc.org.au , or in ticket form, from a Junior Gliding Club member at your local club. Prizes will be drawn presentation night 23 April at the Dalby Queensland Easter Comp – with thanks to SimJet and Go Soaring for generously donating them. Any questions contact AJGC president Adam Webb: p...@ajgc.org.au Regards, Adam Webb / Adam Woolley AJGC President / CD Director Raffle SPONSOR INFORMATION Come and try your hand at flying a B737NG simulator, Nick Kranenburg will make the simulator available at a special hire rate for any member of the GFA HGFA when it’s not being used by an airline academy! Check it out at www.simjet.com.au For all your ‘Products for the soaring enthusiast’ please check out our long term sponsor, Go Soaring. Check out Al Sims website at http://www.gosoaring.com.au/spot%20connect.php ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2011
WPP,
Thank you for the update: A most informative post.
Good luck in your position of CD. With a good support team, and hopefully Qld
weather back to normal, how can you go wrong ... go wrong go wrong? May
you have a great comp.
Re egos - maybe it is only a matter of time?
Just spent (another) week competing with Matthew Scutter, at Horsham Week. {A
very successful - 4 days flown - but difficult (weather wise), competition
:Check out the dedicated Horsham Week web site for results and details.} No
problems here with ego, or Matthew's approach to the sport - other competitors
at Kingaroy watch out!
A great pity that no other Junior competed in this event. For the record, I
think I am right in saying that there is an ongoing policy of subsidised entry
(free?), to this event for juniors.
Anyway, it is certain that Matthew gained a lot of valuable experience from
being there, which will make him even harder to catch: He gains - every other
junior losers.
Why?
It is now an acknowledged fact, that to be ultimately successful - the elite of
the elite - in (almost?), any endeavour, the first step is that participant
must put in 10,000 hours of MEANINGFUL practice!!! Basically talent does not
enter into the equation - but there are a hell of a lot of other factors!
Check out such books as Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell, or Bounce by Matthew
Syed - there are others - for an overview to gain some insight into this. If
you are a AFL fan, have a read of Collingwood's Nathan Buckley's biography All
I Can Be for his story to football success, and verification of the theory -
of which he seems to be blissfully ignorant!
Cheers,
Gary
- Original Message -
From: Adam Woolley
To: AUS Soaring
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2011
G’day Race Fans!
After another successful junior nationals – thanks to Angus ‘Gus’ Stewart
(CD), ‘Super John’ Hudson and his hard working team at the Waikerie Gliding
Club. I thought I had better get started early to try and top another great
event! Lead by a positive junior pilots meeting in December 2010, it was my
job to put it all into action. What was said at this meeting? That JoeyGlide
was to be held in Queensland for the first time since the event began in 2004,
and the rest was up to the juniors to decide: Dates and configuration of the
gliders.
So after two months of ringing around, writing e-mails, and generally
gathering the thoughts and views of the juniors for their preferences – it’s
with my pleasure that I can announce that the 8th Australian Junior Gliding
Nationals will be held at the Kingaroy airfield! Particular thanks of course
must go to the members at the Kingaroy Soaring Club
(www.kingaroysoaring.com.au) for their support and enthusiasm! I’d also like
to thank Ross McLean, Anita Taylor and their positive sports committee for
Australian Gliding. They’ve both been of great help to ensure that our
competition is held at the best time for us all, at the chosen site and not at
conflicting times to the other senior nationals. So please join in thanking
these key people to make our competition an amazing event!
I’ve started the organisation early so to help the juniors plan well ahead,
set goals, save money, etc. JG every year is a success, regardless of numbers.
Why? It’s the amazing culture that it brings, everyone is there to have a
good time. As John Hudson described from the JG10 comp, “It’s a senior
nationals really, great people but all without the ego’s!”. The juniors are an
extremely safety conscious lot of pilots, as they seem to be really concerned
how they’re looked upon by their senior peers – I guarantee you’ll all be very
impressed of you’re able to make it to JoeyGlide for a look!
The juicy stuff!
*WHEN: 11-17th December, 2011 – with the practice day on the 10th.
*WHERE: Kingaroy Gliding Club (www.kingaroysoaring.com.au), Queensland.
*WHO (Competing): Juniors of 30 years of age or less at the start of the
competition. However, to be declared the National champion and to be able to
gain selection, you must be 25 years of age or less at the start of the
competition.
*WHO (Coaching): Juniors from solo standard, through to 30 years of age or
less at the start of the competition.
*WHAT (Competing Class): Sports class gliders limited to 15m wingspan.
*WHAT (Competing Configuration): JoeyGlide will be a water ballasted
competition using the lightly adjusted handicaps from the German Aero Club
(read: OLC) – as used successfully at JoeyGlide 2007.
*WHAT (Coaching): In gliders from DUO-Discus performance to IS-28’s, with
local and national coaches. More information to come on this great opportunity
as it comes to hand!
*WHY: Because we can!
We’re all looking forward to sharing this great event with you. So please
check out the Soaring Australia magazine for more information, the March issue
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2011
Thanks for the update Adam. Can anyone out there tell me where and when the Multiclass and Club Class (grown up ??) Nationals will be held next season (am planning next summers holiday flying already). Regards, Grant. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Adam Woolley aussiejuniort...@hotmail.comwrote: G’day Race Fans! After another successful junior nationals – thanks to Angus ‘Gus’ Stewart (CD), ‘Super John’ Hudson and his hard working team at the Waikerie Gliding Club. I thought I had better get started early to try and top another great event! Lead by a positive junior pilots meeting in December 2010, it was my job to put it all into action. What was said at this meeting? That JoeyGlide was to be held in Queensland for the first time since the event began in 2004, and the rest was up to the juniors to decide: Dates and configuration of the gliders. So after two months of ringing around, writing e-mails, and generally gathering the thoughts and views of the juniors for their preferences – it’s with my pleasure that I can announce that the 8th Australian Junior Gliding Nationals will be held at the Kingaroy airfield! Particular thanks of course must go to the members at the Kingaroy Soaring Club ( www.kingaroysoaring.com.au) for their support and enthusiasm! I’d also like to thank Ross McLean, Anita Taylor and their positive sports committee for Australian Gliding. They’ve both been of great help to ensure that our competition is held at the best time for us all, at the chosen site and not at conflicting times to the other senior nationals. So please join in thanking these key people to make our competition an amazing event! I’ve started the organisation early so to help the juniors plan well ahead, set goals, save money, etc. JG every year is a success, regardless of numbers. Why? It’s the amazing culture that it brings, everyone is there to have a good time. As John Hudson described from the JG10 comp, “It’s a senior nationals really, great people but all without the ego’s!”. The juniors are an extremely safety conscious lot of pilots, as they seem to be really concerned how they’re looked upon by their senior peers – I guarantee you’ll all be very impressed of you’re able to make it to JoeyGlide for a look! The juicy stuff! *WHEN: 11-17th December, 2011 – with the practice day on the 10th. *WHERE: Kingaroy Gliding Club ( www.kingaroysoaring.com.au), Queensland. *WHO (Competing): Juniors of 30 years of age or less at the start of the competition. However, to be declared the National champion and to be able to gain selection, you must be 25 years of age or less at the start of the competition. *WHO (Coaching): Juniors from solo standard, through to 30 years of age or less at the start of the competition. *WHAT (Competing Class): Sports class gliders limited to 15m wingspan. *WHAT (Competing Configuration): JoeyGlide will be a water ballasted competition using the lightly adjusted handicaps from the German Aero Club (read: OLC) – as used successfully at JoeyGlide 2007. *WHAT (Coaching): In gliders from DUO-Discus performance to IS-28’s, with local and national coaches. More information to come on this great opportunity as it comes to hand! *WHY: Because we can! We’re all looking forward to sharing this great event with you. So please check out the Soaring Australia magazine for more information, the March issue has the first of NINE articles in relation to JoeyGlide! Best Regards, Adam Woolley Contest Director 0438784688 P.s. Are you a junior that I’m not aware about? If so, check out www.joeyglide.com.au and join up to our own mailing list. A lot of the information to JoeyGlide is also found at the facebook group ‘JoeyGlide 2011’ – where we now have 115 members (this group is also open to all National Coaches)!!! ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Grant Hudson PO Box 441, Roseworthy, SA, 5371 (H) (08) 8524 8716 (M) 0407 605 128 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2011
Hi Grant The Sports Committee met last weekend and the Nationals dates for Multi Class and Club Class were agreed and approved by the committee. Once these dates are agreed by the relevant local councils and hosting club committees they will be announced in Soaring Australia Magazine, on the hosting clubs website, and on this forum. This should be some time early next week. Stay tuned. Best regards, ROSS _ Ross McLean mobile: +61 488 270 105 email: ross...@bigpond.net.au From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Grant Hudson Sent: Tuesday, 15 February 2011 9:00 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2011 Thanks for the update Adam. Can anyone out there tell me where and when the Multiclass and Club Class (grown up ??) Nationals will be held next season (am planning next summers holiday flying already). Regards, Grant. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Adam Woolley aussiejuniort...@hotmail.com wrote: G'day Race Fans! After another successful junior nationals - thanks to Angus 'Gus' Stewart (CD), 'Super John' Hudson and his hard working team at the Waikerie Gliding Club. I thought I had better get started early to try and top another great event! Lead by a positive junior pilots meeting in December 2010, it was my job to put it all into action. What was said at this meeting? That JoeyGlide was to be held in Queensland for the first time since the event began in 2004, and the rest was up to the juniors to decide: Dates and configuration of the gliders. So after two months of ringing around, writing e-mails, and generally gathering the thoughts and views of the juniors for their preferences - it's with my pleasure that I can announce that the 8th Australian Junior Gliding Nationals will be held at the Kingaroy airfield! Particular thanks of course must go to the members at the Kingaroy Soaring Club (www.kingaroysoaring.com.au http://www.kingaroysoaring.com.au/ ) for their support and enthusiasm! I'd also like to thank Ross McLean, Anita Taylor and their positive sports committee for Australian Gliding. They've both been of great help to ensure that our competition is held at the best time for us all, at the chosen site and not at conflicting times to the other senior nationals. So please join in thanking these key people to make our competition an amazing event! I've started the organisation early so to help the juniors plan well ahead, set goals, save money, etc. JG every year is a success, regardless of numbers. Why? It's the amazing culture that it brings, everyone is there to have a good time. As John Hudson described from the JG10 comp, It's a senior nationals really, great people but all without the ego's!. The juniors are an extremely safety conscious lot of pilots, as they seem to be really concerned how they're looked upon by their senior peers - I guarantee you'll all be very impressed of you're able to make it to JoeyGlide for a look! The juicy stuff! *WHEN: 11-17th December, 2011 - with the practice day on the 10th. *WHERE: Kingaroy Gliding Club ( http://www.kingaroysoaring.com.au/ www.kingaroysoaring.com.au), Queensland. *WHO (Competing): Juniors of 30 years of age or less at the start of the competition. However, to be declared the National champion and to be able to gain selection, you must be 25 years of age or less at the start of the competition. *WHO (Coaching): Juniors from solo standard, through to 30 years of age or less at the start of the competition. *WHAT (Competing Class): Sports class gliders limited to 15m wingspan. *WHAT (Competing Configuration): JoeyGlide will be a water ballasted competition using the lightly adjusted handicaps from the German Aero Club (read: OLC) - as used successfully at JoeyGlide 2007. *WHAT (Coaching): In gliders from DUO-Discus performance to IS-28's, with local and national coaches. More information to come on this great opportunity as it comes to hand! *WHY: Because we can! We're all looking forward to sharing this great event with you. So please check out the Soaring Australia magazine for more information, the March issue has the first of NINE articles in relation to JoeyGlide! Best Regards, Adam Woolley Contest Director 0438784688 P.s. Are you a junior that I'm not aware about? If so, check out www.joeyglide.com.au http://www.joeyglide.com.au/ and join up to our own mailing list. A lot of the information to JoeyGlide is also found at the facebook group 'JoeyGlide 2011' - where we now have 115 members (this group is also open to all National Coaches)!!! ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2011
G’day Race Fans! After another successful junior nationals – thanks to Angus ‘Gus’ Stewart (CD), ‘Super John’ Hudson and his hard working team at the Waikerie Gliding Club. I thought I had better get started early to try and top another great event! Lead by a positive junior pilots meeting in December 2010, it was my job to put it all into action. What was said at this meeting? That JoeyGlide was to be held in Queensland for the first time since the event began in 2004, and the rest was up to the juniors to decide: Dates and configuration of the gliders. So after two months of ringing around, writing e-mails, and generally gathering the thoughts and views of the juniors for their preferences – it’s with my pleasure that I can announce that the 8th Australian Junior Gliding Nationals will be held at the Kingaroy airfield! Particular thanks of course must go to the members at the Kingaroy Soaring Club (www.kingaroysoaring.com.au) for their support and enthusiasm! I’d also like to thank Ross McLean, Anita Taylor and their positive sports committee for Australian Gliding. They’ve both been of great help to ensure that our competition is held at the best time for us all, at the chosen site and not at conflicting times to the other senior nationals. So please join in thanking these key people to make our competition an amazing event! I’ve started the organisation early so to help the juniors plan well ahead, set goals, save money, etc. JG every year is a success, regardless of numbers. Why? It’s the amazing culture that it brings, everyone is there to have a good time. As John Hudson described from the JG10 comp, “It’s a senior nationals really, great people but all without the ego’s!”. The juniors are an extremely safety conscious lot of pilots, as they seem to be really concerned how they’re looked upon by their senior peers – I guarantee you’ll all be very impressed of you’re able to make it to JoeyGlide for a look! The juicy stuff! *WHEN: 11-17th December, 2011 – with the practice day on the 10th. *WHERE: Kingaroy Gliding Club (www.kingaroysoaring.com.au), Queensland. *WHO (Competing): Juniors of 30 years of age or less at the start of the competition. However, to be declared the National champion and to be able to gain selection, you must be 25 years of age or less at the start of the competition. *WHO (Coaching): Juniors from solo standard, through to 30 years of age or less at the start of the competition. *WHAT (Competing Class): Sports class gliders limited to 15m wingspan. *WHAT (Competing Configuration): JoeyGlide will be a water ballasted competition using the lightly adjusted handicaps from the German Aero Club (read: OLC) – as used successfully at JoeyGlide 2007. *WHAT (Coaching): In gliders from DUO-Discus performance to IS-28’s, with local and national coaches. More information to come on this great opportunity as it comes to hand! *WHY: Because we can! We’re all looking forward to sharing this great event with you. So please check out the Soaring Australia magazine for more information, the March issue has the first of NINE articles in relation to JoeyGlide! Best Regards, Adam Woolley Contest Director 0438784688 P.s. Are you a junior that I’m not aware about? If so, check out www.joeyglide.com.au and join up to our own mailing list. A lot of the information to JoeyGlide is also found at the facebook group ‘JoeyGlide 2011’ – where we now have 115 members (this group is also open to all National Coaches)!!!___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2010 - Practice Days 1 2
JG is over for another year, and what a year it was. After the last minute chance of venue, we ended up with flying and tasking EVERY DAY of the comp (including two practice days), a total of eight consecutive flying days. This had never been done before in the seven years of JoeyGlide. Thanks again to everyone who helped out, especially the people involved in the last minute move. Special mentions to the Waikerie Gliding Club, lead by 'Super-John' Hudson who made everything run smoothly and drove the tug every day; Jean for cooking up a wonderful meal for us every night; Anne Wolfe who sorted us all out with accommodation; all the Waikerie club members who staffed the bar and put up with us invading their clubhouse; Grant Johnson for keeping his watchful eye on us as safety officer; Cath Conway for helping hugely with the move, setting us great tasks (even if I didn't make it around them all) and coaching in the K21 and Duo; Andrew Horton for his continued generosity to the Juniors and helping out coaching; and Derek Spencer, Paul Mander, George Brown and Bernard Eckey for their time in the back seat coaching for the week. A huge thanks also to Gus Stewart who comp directed the week. Having only taken on the job six weeks ago, he then took on the huge task of moving the comp only two weeks ago, Gus then pulled off an awesome comp with everyone: competitors, coachees and anyone else who popped in, having a great time. If he wasn't buggering off to England for a few years he'd have a job for life. If there's anyone I've missed out I apologise, and thank you! Now time to start looking forward to next year! At the pilots meeting it was decided to move the comp up north to Queensland next year, and Adam Woolley was nominated CD. I'm sure we'll be hearing from him before long! Thanks again to everyone involved! It was a great week. Now back to work L. Adam WebbsiMax From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Gus Stewart Sent: Sunday, 12 December 2010 8:07 PM To: j...@joeyglide.com.au; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2010 - Practice Days 1 2 Hi All, What a great two days it has been so far! This time last week we had been told that Narromine was unflyable, and we may have to cancel the competition. Now here we are, in Waikerie, with all of our competitors having made the change and arrived onsite ready for a great week. Here's an extract from the blog that I am publishing on the Joeyglide Website (http://www.joeyglide.com.au ) 11/12/2010 - Practice Day 1 First day of Joeyglide 2010! High winds and low temperatures caused a fairly conservative task to be set, an AAT with turnpoints at Maggea, Taldra and Loxton A/F. Conditions certainly tested pilots on their first day, and a few ended up in paddocks. Still, a successful day and a good chance to test the scoring system and the pilot's routines. http://www.soaringspot.com/jg2010/results/club/task/day-1.html Task http://www.soaringspot.com/jg2010/results/club/daily/day-1.html Scores 12/12/2010 - Practice Day 2 Due to the hurried relocation of the comp, a second practice day was declared. Initial weather reports showed inclement and unfavourable weather, with convection stopping hurriedly at 1630 hrs. As such, a 2.5 hour AAT with turnpoints at Taplan east then Maggea was declared, giving pilots lots of options if the weather turned foul. As it turned out, by the time the last glider was launched the sky began to clear and the pilots had a good run. Top speeds of just under 100 km/h were achieved, and pilots reported 10-11 kt lift, with all pilots returning to the airfield at the end of the day. Better than expected conditions have caused a lot of pilots to have big smiles at the end of the day. http://www.soaringspot.com/jg2010/results/club/task/day-2.html Task http://www.soaringspot.com/jg2010/results/club/daily/day-2.html Scores We are now looking at the weather over the next few days and the outlook amongst the pilots is positive, with a few strong days expected in the coming week. We have been lucky enough to be visited by certain Major Sponsor, whom you may recognise in the middle of the attached photo. Be sure to follow the JoeyGlide 2010 website and the scores, which are available at Soaring Spot - http://www.soaringspot.com/jg2010/results/ Cheers, Gus Stewart Contest Director 0438 008 126 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2010 - Practice Days 1 2
Of course we also have to thank our sponsors. Internode once again supported us hugely, without them we wouldn't have a contest, it was great to see Simon pop in for an afternoon! Thanks also to OAMPS who help out not only with a generous cash sponsorships but also with insurance, but also helping with insurance including allowing minimum hours and the like to be wavered for those borrowing gliders. Thanks also to Modelflight, Go Soaring, Maddog Compersites and Bernard Eckey for helping out with prizes. Adam From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Adam Webb Sent: Monday, 20 December 2010 4:33 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'; j...@joeyglide.com.au Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2010 - Practice Days 1 2 JG is over for another year, and what a year it was. After the last minute chance of venue, we ended up with flying and tasking EVERY DAY of the comp (including two practice days), a total of eight consecutive flying days. This had never been done before in the seven years of JoeyGlide. Thanks again to everyone who helped out, especially the people involved in the last minute move. Special mentions to the Waikerie Gliding Club, lead by 'Super-John' Hudson who made everything run smoothly and drove the tug every day; Jean for cooking up a wonderful meal for us every night; Anne Wolfe who sorted us all out with accommodation; all the Waikerie club members who staffed the bar and put up with us invading their clubhouse; Grant Johnson for keeping his watchful eye on us as safety officer; Cath Conway for helping hugely with the move, setting us great tasks (even if I didn't make it around them all) and coaching in the K21 and Duo; Andrew Horton for his continued generosity to the Juniors and helping out coaching; and Derek Spencer, Paul Mander, George Brown and Bernard Eckey for their time in the back seat coaching for the week. A huge thanks also to Gus Stewart who comp directed the week. Having only taken on the job six weeks ago, he then took on the huge task of moving the comp only two weeks ago, Gus then pulled off an awesome comp with everyone: competitors, coachees and anyone else who popped in, having a great time. If he wasn't buggering off to England for a few years he'd have a job for life. If there's anyone I've missed out I apologise, and thank you! Now time to start looking forward to next year! At the pilots meeting it was decided to move the comp up north to Queensland next year, and Adam Woolley was nominated CD. I'm sure we'll be hearing from him before long! Thanks again to everyone involved! It was a great week. Now back to work L. Adam WebbsiMax From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Gus Stewart Sent: Sunday, 12 December 2010 8:07 PM To: j...@joeyglide.com.au; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2010 - Practice Days 1 2 Hi All, What a great two days it has been so far! This time last week we had been told that Narromine was unflyable, and we may have to cancel the competition. Now here we are, in Waikerie, with all of our competitors having made the change and arrived onsite ready for a great week. Here's an extract from the blog that I am publishing on the Joeyglide Website (http://www.joeyglide.com.au ) 11/12/2010 - Practice Day 1 First day of Joeyglide 2010! High winds and low temperatures caused a fairly conservative task to be set, an AAT with turnpoints at Maggea, Taldra and Loxton A/F. Conditions certainly tested pilots on their first day, and a few ended up in paddocks. Still, a successful day and a good chance to test the scoring system and the pilot's routines. http://www.soaringspot.com/jg2010/results/club/task/day-1.html Task http://www.soaringspot.com/jg2010/results/club/daily/day-1.html Scores 12/12/2010 - Practice Day 2 Due to the hurried relocation of the comp, a second practice day was declared. Initial weather reports showed inclement and unfavourable weather, with convection stopping hurriedly at 1630 hrs. As such, a 2.5 hour AAT with turnpoints at Taplan east then Maggea was declared, giving pilots lots of options if the weather turned foul. As it turned out, by the time the last glider was launched the sky began to clear and the pilots had a good run. Top speeds of just under 100 km/h were achieved, and pilots reported 10-11 kt lift, with all pilots returning to the airfield at the end of the day. Better than expected conditions have caused a lot of pilots to have big smiles at the end of the day. http://www.soaringspot.com/jg2010/results/club/task/day-2.html Task http://www.soaringspot.com/jg2010/results/club/daily/day-2.html Scores We are now looking at the weather over the next few days and the outlook amongst the pilots
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2010 - Practice Days 1 2
Great stuff Stewart ... have a great comp ... look forward to receiving some pix and news for SoaringAustralia. Anne From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Gus Stewart Sent: Sunday, 12 December 2010 8:07 PM To: j...@joeyglide.com.au; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2010 - Practice Days 1 2 Hi All, What a great two days it has been so far! This time last week we had been told that Narromine was unflyable, and we may have to cancel the competition. Now here we are, in Waikerie, with all of our competitors having made the change and arrived onsite ready for a great week. Here's an extract from the blog that I am publishing on the Joeyglide Website (http://www.joeyglide.com.au ) 11/12/2010 - Practice Day 1 First day of Joeyglide 2010! High winds and low temperatures caused a fairly conservative task to be set, an AAT with turnpoints at Maggea, Taldra and Loxton A/F. Conditions certainly tested pilots on their first day, and a few ended up in paddocks. Still, a successful day and a good chance to test the scoring system and the pilot's routines. http://www.soaringspot.com/jg2010/results/club/task/day-1.html Task http://www.soaringspot.com/jg2010/results/club/daily/day-1.html Scores 12/12/2010 - Practice Day 2 Due to the hurried relocation of the comp, a second practice day was declared. Initial weather reports showed inclement and unfavourable weather, with convection stopping hurriedly at 1630 hrs. As such, a 2.5 hour AAT with turnpoints at Taplan east then Maggea was declared, giving pilots lots of options if the weather turned foul. As it turned out, by the time the last glider was launched the sky began to clear and the pilots had a good run. Top speeds of just under 100 km/h were achieved, and pilots reported 10-11 kt lift, with all pilots returning to the airfield at the end of the day. Better than expected conditions have caused a lot of pilots to have big smiles at the end of the day. http://www.soaringspot.com/jg2010/results/club/task/day-2.html Task http://www.soaringspot.com/jg2010/results/club/daily/day-2.html Scores We are now looking at the weather over the next few days and the outlook amongst the pilots is positive, with a few strong days expected in the coming week. We have been lucky enough to be visited by certain Major Sponsor, whom you may recognise in the middle of the attached photo. Be sure to follow the JoeyGlide 2010 website and the scores, which are available at Soaring Spot - http://www.soaringspot.com/jg2010/results/ Cheers, Gus Stewart Contest Director 0438 008 126 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JOEYGLIDE SCHOLARSHIPS
Hi All, The Australian Junior Gliding Club is proud to announce that we will be offering two scholarships to pilots attending JoeyGlide this year, or $250 each! The scholarships are available to both pilots competing in the Australian Junior National competition as well as pilots taking part in the two seater coaching week being run along side the contest. In order to qualify for the scholarships, pilots must be members of the Australian Junior Gliding Club; must meet the entry criterion for the comp or coaching week (or plan to have by the time of the comp); and must also be willing to write a short piece after the comp for publication on the AJGC website, and possibly in the Australian Soaring magasine. Membership of the club is available at www.ajgc.org.au to all pilots of any age. Applications, detailing why you think you should be awarded the scholarship, should be either emailed to p...@ajgc.org.au or posted to: The Australian Junior Gliding Club, 7 Lomandra St, O'Connor, ACT 2602. Applications close Friday 12th November. Any questions, please contact myself on the above email address. More information is available on the Australian Junior Gliding Club is on our website at www.ajgc.org.au , and more info on JoeyGlide is at www.joeyglide.com. It would be appreciated if you could forward this information to any members of your club not on this list whom you feel would be interested. Regards, Adam Webb President AJGC ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide Scholarships
Hi All, If anyone is hoping to fly at JoeyGlide, but struggling with the costs could you please let me know? The committee of the AJGC will be meeting in the next week to discuss scholarships etc, and it would be good to know if we'd have any interest. We will invite formal applications after the meeting, but it would help to know roughly what we are dealing with beforehand. Again, if you know anyone who is not on the list and may be interested, please forward this one to them. Cheers Adam Webb President AJGC ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide Day 5
Day 5 video found at: www.joeyglide.com.au WPP _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide Day 4
Day 4 video can be found @ www.joeyglide.com.au WPP _ Looking for a great date? Meet singles at ninemsn dating http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide Day 3!
www.joeyglide.com.au for the Day 3 video! Regards, Adam Woolley _ Use Messenger in your Hotmail inbox Find out how http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/hotmail/article/823454/web-im-for-hotmail-is-here___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide Day 2!
http://www.joeyglide.com.au/ - Day 2 video link can be found here! Regards, Adam Woolley _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide Day 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK0c7JnfBXs WPP _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2009 entry form online
The below is copied and pasted from the JG webgroup! Please encourage as many juniors (25 years or less) at your club to come to JG as possible. WPP Howdy Those of you competing in Joeyglide should now register for the event. We are able to pass on a reduced entry fee because of our fantastic sponsor so far OAMPS. The entry fee will be $145 for the next 7 days but will go up to $165 after that, so get in quick. Don’t worry if you don’t know what aircraft you will be flying yet, you can still register. http://www.joeyglide.com.au/contestinfo/entryform/tabid/236/Default.aspx Those of you seeking coaching should register here. A lot effort gets put in behind the scene for you guys and we really need to know how many of you are coming. Please register your attendance with a $50 deposit. This is not a fee, it is a deposit that will be deducted from your flying expenses during the event. http://www.joeyglide.com.au/contestinfo/coaching/tabid/237/e/1/Default.aspx Entry fee and coaching deposit is paid via paypal. With paypal you can pay using a credit card or a bank account. If neither of these options suit you please contact me for alternative arrangements. Regards Heath L'Estrange _ Take a peek at other people's pay and perks Check out The Great Australian Pay Check http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace
As is generally acepted, a breach of Controlled Airspace is a serious issue and must be treated accordingly. It is my considered view that there is no plausible excuse for Violations of Controlled Airspace (nothing is acceptable) under any circumstances - if you are lost, unsure of your position or in trouble, talk to ATC, they want to and will help - at least by keeping everyone else out of the probable area. Ignorance of the vertical or lateral boundaries cannot be an acceptable excuse - it is every pilots responsibility to remain outside Controlled Airspace Boundaries unless a clearance is obtained. There is ample information - maps (in this case, detailed maps produced by ASC), Tolerances, Briefings etc readily available. A focus on the consequences of unauthorised penetration of a CTA may put the focus in perspective - particularly those close to busy primary Capital City airports (the chances of it happening half-way between Broken Hill and Alice Springs are remote). Try to imagine the consequences of running into (or near to) a 737 in descent (it doesnt bear thinking about about surely - we would all be flying in the back-of-beyond). John Hudson ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace
On 21/12/2007, at 5:21 PM, Stuart Kerri FERGUSON wrote: Problem is there are a lot of pilots (of all disciplines) out there that if you took their GPS off them, turned them round 3 times they would be lost Once more I'll point out unless you have reason to believe that if you took their GPS off [ the juniors in this comp ], turned them round 3 times they would be lost, you'll have a less confrontational reception if you ask first. On general principles, all of the pilots involved in this comp have operated at very high standards. I certainly don't have any reason to think they don't know how to read maps, and I've been watching them like a hawk for the last week. My belief is that you don't know anything about them, yet you project the appearance of feeling qualified to cast around doubts and aspersions about their abilities. Is my belief wrong, and do you know something I don't? - mark I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton - Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 - Fax: +61-8-82231777 - ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace
Hello all, I can confirm that Joeyglide is being run in accordance with the Australian Nationals rules, and I apologise for any suggestion that it might not be. In my previous note, I was stating the default penalty. There is a provision in the rules for the Penalties Committee to apply a more lenient penalty in the non-competitive part of the flight, if the breach of airspace was not to the competitive advantage of the pilot and where there were extenuating circumstances. I cannot comment in detail on the reasons for their decision - I can only say that they have that option and obviously exercised it in this case. Cheers and Merry Christmas to all. Tim Tim Shirley wrote: The Australian Nationals Rules do not differentiate. There is a three-level penalty which is the same as that which operates at World Comps: first offence, outlanding at the point of the offence; second offence, zero for the day; third offence, disqualification. Naturally, an outlanding before the start makes the first offence the same as the second :) I do not know why Joeyglide would be runto any other rule. They should be running on current Nationals rules - and until I had spoken to the CD, I would not assume otherwise, regardless of what may be posted in this forum. Tim Mike Borgelt wrote: At 10:15 AM 20/12/2007, you wrote: Well this changes everything. The scorer has undertaken to seek clarification about the rules, and it seems that pre-start airspace violations provide for a 100 point penalty, not zero points. There'll be updated scores in due course :-) The other interesting thing is that we're now five days into the contest and none of the people affected by this have read the rules and raised a protest. As David Conway says, That kind of education is one of the reasons we run JoeyGlide. - mark Maybe nobody bothered with that rule because it is absurd. Could someone please detail the thinking, to use the term loosely, behind that penalty system? Surely an airspace violation during a contest flight is just that and the penalty should be the same no matter when it occurred? The consequences whether in civil penalties or mid airs are surely the same. I can't see CASA bothering to differentiate between pre start and after start when taking the violater to court. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 Int'l + 61 429 355784 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace
Was that system designed by a teacher? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simon holding Sent: Thursday, 20 December 2007 6:04 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace At the last few Masters Games in Alice Springs, we tried to take the pressure off the CD and Scorer. After the contest had been flown, all the medals were put into a calico bag, and each pilot drew out a medal - every player wins a prize. Simon (Gold medal winner 2002) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Shirley Sent: Thursday, 20 December 2007 4:05 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace What a silly suggestion. Everyone knows that scorers can only be trained with bottles of red. Tim simon holding wrote: To train the scorers?? :) Simon As David Conway says, That kind of education is one of the reasons we run JoeyGlide. - mark I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton - Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 - Fax: +61-8-82231777 - ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace
At 07:09 PM 20/12/2007, you wrote: Hello all, I can confirm that Joeyglide is being run in accordance with the Australian Nationals rules, and I apologise for any suggestion that it might not be. In my previous note, I was stating the default penalty. There is a provision in the rules for the Penalties Committee to apply a more lenient penalty in the non-competitive part of the flight, if the breach of airspace was not to the competitive advantage of the pilot and where there were extenuating circumstances. I cannot comment in detail on the reasons for their decision - I can only say that they have that option and obviously exercised it in this case. Still absurd. What part of launching on a contest flight is non competitive? Extenuating circumstances? With GPS and moving maps? Supposedly competent pilots? By allowing options the rule merely becomes a matter of someone's opinion as does the contest result. Some penalty decisions might require this to be so. Airspace in the GPS era isn't one of them and these circumstances should be minimised to the greatest extent possible. It makes life unnecessarily difficult for contest organisers. I remember a contest where the CD was very happy at the end that I won the last day by a large enough margin to win the contest and make the protest by another competitor about the penalty imposed as a result of what he did on the first day (nothing to do with me or anyone else), irrelevant. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 Int'l + 61 429 355784 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace
Airspace Breaches and Competition Rules. In my opinion there is no excuse for breaching airspace if you're a competition pilot, the only penalty for breaches should be disqualification from the event - No repeat offenders and it sends a clear message to the remainder of the competitors. If a pilot has to enter C, D of even A class airspace due to stress of weather, declare a PAN and negotiate a clearance, how easy is that. There are a good number of people both at the GFA management level and at club level negotiating access to airspace for all GFA members; if competition directors are not seen to take breaches seriously this could provide CASA and AsA with evidence that we as a groups do not take airspace seriously and withdrawal what we have already negotiated, and not negotiate again. Do you want to be responsible for that? SDF -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 8:28 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace At 07:09 PM 20/12/2007, you wrote: Hello all, I can confirm that Joeyglide is being run in accordance with the Australian Nationals rules, and I apologise for any suggestion that it might not be. In my previous note, I was stating the default penalty. There is a provision in the rules for the Penalties Committee to apply a more lenient penalty in the non-competitive part of the flight, if the breach of airspace was not to the competitive advantage of the pilot and where there were extenuating circumstances. I cannot comment in detail on the reasons for their decision - I can only say that they have that option and obviously exercised it in this case. Still absurd. What part of launching on a contest flight is non competitive? Extenuating circumstances? With GPS and moving maps? Supposedly competent pilots? By allowing options the rule merely becomes a matter of someone's opinion as does the contest result. Some penalty decisions might require this to be so. Airspace in the GPS era isn't one of them and these circumstances should be minimised to the greatest extent possible. It makes life unnecessarily difficult for contest organisers. I remember a contest where the CD was very happy at the end that I won the last day by a large enough margin to win the contest and make the protest by another competitor about the penalty imposed as a result of what he did on the first day (nothing to do with me or anyone else), irrelevant. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 Int'l + 61 429 355784 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace
Just a reminder to remember that one of the reasons for airspace penetration is not knowing the reference point for the airspace. Many use a reference point out of ERSA [NAVAID, or ARP] several km from the radar reference point. Oh and of course radii are generally in Nautical Miles, and most glider pilots are in KM. So garbage in and garbage out may cost you many points. Even though you are probably in a corner of airspace that no one else can aerodynamically get to, it is still agin the letter of legislation. Gliding was meant to be easy, then they invented GPS SMFSLT Alan Wilson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Kerri FERGUSON Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 3:31 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace Airspace Breaches and Competition Rules. In my opinion there is no excuse for breaching airspace if you're a competition pilot, the only penalty for breaches should be disqualification from the event - No repeat offenders and it sends a clear message to the remainder of the competitors. If a pilot has to enter C, D of even A class airspace due to stress of weather, declare a PAN and negotiate a clearance, how easy is that. There are a good number of people both at the GFA management level and at club level negotiating access to airspace for all GFA members; if competition directors are not seen to take breaches seriously this could provide CASA and AsA with evidence that we as a groups do not take airspace seriously and withdrawal what we have already negotiated, and not negotiate again. Do you want to be responsible for that? SDF -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 8:28 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace At 07:09 PM 20/12/2007, you wrote: Hello all, I can confirm that Joeyglide is being run in accordance with the Australian Nationals rules, and I apologise for any suggestion that it might not be. In my previous note, I was stating the default penalty. There is a provision in the rules for the Penalties Committee to apply a more lenient penalty in the non-competitive part of the flight, if the breach of airspace was not to the competitive advantage of the pilot and where there were extenuating circumstances. I cannot comment in detail on the reasons for their decision - I can only say that they have that option and obviously exercised it in this case. Still absurd. What part of launching on a contest flight is non competitive? Extenuating circumstances? With GPS and moving maps? Supposedly competent pilots? By allowing options the rule merely becomes a matter of someone's opinion as does the contest result. Some penalty decisions might require this to be so. Airspace in the GPS era isn't one of them and these circumstances should be minimised to the greatest extent possible. It makes life unnecessarily difficult for contest organisers. I remember a contest where the CD was very happy at the end that I won the last day by a large enough margin to win the contest and make the protest by another competitor about the penalty imposed as a result of what he did on the first day (nothing to do with me or anyone else), irrelevant. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 Int'l + 61 429 355784 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.4/811 - Release Date: 18/05/2007 3:50 PM Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.4/811 - Release Date: 18/05/2007 3:50 PM ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace
On 21/12/2007, at 3:00 PM, Stuart Kerri FERGUSON wrote: There are a good number of people both at the GFA management level and at club level negotiating access to airspace for all GFA members; if competition directors are not seen to take breaches seriously this could provide CASA and AsA with evidence that we as a groups do not take airspace seriously and withdrawal what we have already negotiated, and not negotiate again. Do you want to be responsible for that? Airspace breaches are taken seriously as a safety issue. Each breach results in an incident report which I've been following up with the pilots concerned, and pilots are left under absolutely no doubt about the seriousness of the matter. More than one breach from a pilot will result in the pilot's exit from the comp, no if's, but's or maybe's. As a rule, I don't believe a competition safety officer should give a crap about the rules of the comp; If something is unsafe or illegal it's unsafe or illegal regardless of what the rules or scoring equations say. A safety officer needs to make decisions independently (although consultively) and, one hopes, intelligently. Which, more specifically, means that an airspace breach is a serious operational issue regardless of what the non-operational competition rules have to say about it. I can see how someone who has absolutely nothing to do with what's going on here could form the view that someone doesn't take airspace seriously, but perhaps a less combative and less patronizing approach that such a person could take might be to enquire, Do you guys take airspace seriously? before rendering judgement. Love and kisses, - mark joeyglide '07 safety officer I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton - Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 - Fax: +61-8-82231777 - ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace
There is really no excuse for violation of controlled airspace. Most of the comp area of Joey glide would be covered by the Adelaide VNC, this clearly shows the airspace boundaries. Although flying around Gawler, you are less than 5NM horizontally from the airspace boundaries!!! Also NOTAMs should be covered as part of the daily briefing (as these should disclose any differences to published airspace boundaries). Refer to AIP for guidance: 19.11 Avoiding Controlled Airspace The pilot in command of an aircraft operating in Class G airspace, or to the VFR in Class E airspace, must apply appropriate tolerances to the flight path to ensure that controlled airspace, or restricted areas, are not infringed. In calculating whether an intended flight path may infringe controlled airspace, the following navigational tolerances must be applied to the intended flight path depending on method of navigation used. These tolerances may be rounded up to the nearest half degree for practical purposes: NDB ±6.9° VOR/TACAN ±5.2° DR ±12° Note: For DR tracking ±9 o may be used where initial track guidance has been provided by NDB, VOR or TACAN and there is no subsequent change in track. RNAV ±14NM VISUAL (POWERED AIRCRAFT) 0 ? 2,000 AGL ±1NM ( ±2NM by night) 2,001 ? 5,000 AGL ±2NM ( ±3NM by night) 5,001 ? 10,000 AGL ±4NM ( ±5NM by night) VISUAL (GLIDERS) 0 ? 10,000 ±5NM VISUAL (ALL AIRCRAFT) 10,001 ? FL200 ±8NM FL205 ? FL300 ±12NM FL305 ? FL400 ±16NM ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace
Perhaps some people should talk to the pilots involved in the competition that breached airspace before commenting on this. I do admit, breach of airspace is a serious thing, but there are a few different reasons. Some breaches were avoidable, arising out of lack of navigation and/or pilot error, but some were not. I'd rather avoid explaining why on here, but perhaps talk to the pilots concerned (especially from day 3) before commenting. I think that after doing so, you would have a slightly different opinion of some of the breaches. Dion Baker. On 21/12/2007, Stuart Kerri FERGUSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan, What a crock! Visual navigation = using visual navigation maps that have ground features and airspace boundaries on them, look out the window apply the visual navigation tolerances, remember these increase with altitude, and you will never go anywhere near airspace you must remain clear of. Problem is there are a lot of pilots (of all disciplines) out there that if you took their GPS off them, turned them round 3 times they would be lost SDF -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Wilson Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 5:11 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace Just a reminder to remember that one of the reasons for airspace penetration is not knowing the reference point for the airspace. Many use a reference point out of ERSA [NAVAID, or ARP] several km from the radar reference point. Oh and of course radii are generally in Nautical Miles, and most glider pilots are in KM. So garbage in and garbage out may cost you many points. Even though you are probably in a corner of airspace that no one else can aerodynamically get to, it is still agin the letter of legislation. Gliding was meant to be easy, then they invented GPS SMFSLT Alan Wilson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Kerri FERGUSON Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 3:31 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace Airspace Breaches and Competition Rules. In my opinion there is no excuse for breaching airspace if you're a competition pilot, the only penalty for breaches should be disqualification from the event - No repeat offenders and it sends a clear message to the remainder of the competitors. If a pilot has to enter C, D of even A class airspace due to stress of weather, declare a PAN and negotiate a clearance, how easy is that. There are a good number of people both at the GFA management level and at club level negotiating access to airspace for all GFA members; if competition directors are not seen to take breaches seriously this could provide CASA and AsA with evidence that we as a groups do not take airspace seriously and withdrawal what we have already negotiated, and not negotiate again. Do you want to be responsible for that? SDF -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 8:28 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace At 07:09 PM 20/12/2007, you wrote: Hello all, I can confirm that Joeyglide is being run in accordance with the Australian Nationals rules, and I apologise for any suggestion that it might not be. In my previous note, I was stating the default penalty. There is a provision in the rules for the Penalties Committee to apply a more lenient penalty in the non-competitive part of the flight, if the breach of airspace was not to the competitive advantage of the pilot and where there were extenuating circumstances. I cannot comment in detail on the reasons for their decision - I can only say that they have that option and obviously exercised it in this case. Still absurd. What part of launching on a contest flight is non competitive? Extenuating circumstances? With GPS and moving maps? Supposedly competent pilots? By allowing options the rule merely becomes a matter of someone's opinion as does the contest result. Some penalty decisions might require this to be so. Airspace in the GPS era isn't one of them and these circumstances should be minimised to the greatest extent possible. It makes life unnecessarily difficult for contest organisers. I remember a contest where the CD was very happy at the end that I won the last day by a large enough margin to win the contest and make the protest by another competitor about the penalty imposed as a result of what he did on the first day (nothing to do with me or anyone else), irrelevant. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide Day 4 - Quick Summary
Task was originally going to be Robertstown, Waikerie, Kapunda, return, but was modified several times before the start gate opened as the weather conditions changed. We had Cb and thunderstorms for most of the afternoon, lots of Cu, cloudbase at about 9000'; but a rain front coming in across the task area from Burra. In the end it didn't end up reaching Gawler, but pilots had to exercise their met navigation skills to get around (especially the Pik pilots -- there was lots of virga, which can be a tad amusing if you're in a Pik20). THere were also three sea breeze influences during the day, with the Northern part of the task area getting it from the top of the Gulf, the South Eastern part getting it off Lake Alexandrina, and Gawler itself receiving the typical Gawler sea breeze that everyone knows and loves. Sorry, I'm writing this at home at the moment and don't have the final task in front of me. It'll be on the website soon along with the scores, and that may well be more edifying than reading this. Charlie I'Anson came third, Heath Ledger L'Estrange came second, and Sarah Allen won the day in Pik20D WVA. That win also happens to put Sarah in first place for the comp overall at the end of day 4. Todd, and AshLEY both busted airspace pre-start and received zero points for the day. Charlie and Colin Stauss both came close enough to it to get a warning. Wilson and Sylvia, from NZ and USA respectively, had their first comp days and also breached airspace and received zero points, so they'll be working hard today to get themselves onto the scoreboard on day 5. Gus had an undercarriage collapse after landing pre-start. He's flying an LS4, which means it's probably working as designed :-) Some inspections and phone calls to Tom Gilbert confirmed that the aircraft is ok, so he took a late start and flew again, coming in an hour under the task time. Caleb also flew the minimum task distance one hour under time, and between the two of them they pretty severely degraded the scores for the four outlanders. Betting observers may wish to know who those outlanders are. I'm at home now without the score sheet in front of me; suffice to say it was AshLEY, Anne, Ben and Nick Maddocks. One of the comments that's come through very strongly throughout the comp is that the level of organization and professionalism being shown by the competitors is fantastic. They're gridding on time, turning up to briefings, their preparation is all happening when it needs to happen, nobody is complaining about stupid stuff and everyone is getting on with the job. If this is the future of competition gliding in Australia, the organizers of future Nationals comps will find their jobs getting easier with time as these people move up to the big comps and set an example for everyone else. - mark I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton - Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 - Fax: +61-8-82231777 - ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace
Well this changes everything. The scorer has undertaken to seek clarification about the rules, and it seems that pre-start airspace violations provide for a 100 point penalty, not zero points. There'll be updated scores in due course :-) The other interesting thing is that we're now five days into the contest and none of the people affected by this have read the rules and raised a protest. As David Conway says, That kind of education is one of the reasons we run JoeyGlide. - mark I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton - Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 - Fax: +61-8-82231777 - ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace
To train the scorers?? :) Simon As David Conway says, That kind of education is one of the reasons we run JoeyGlide. - mark I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton - Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 - Fax: +61-8-82231777 - ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace
What a silly suggestion. Everyone knows that scorers can only be trained with bottles of red. Tim simon holding wrote: To train the scorers?? :) Simon As David Conway says, That kind of education is one of the reasons we run JoeyGlide. - mark I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton - Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 - Fax: +61-8-82231777 - ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace
At the last few Masters Games in Alice Springs, we tried to take the pressure off the CD and Scorer. After the contest had been flown, all the medals were put into a calico bag, and each pilot drew out a medal - every player wins a prize. Simon (Gold medal winner 2002) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Shirley Sent: Thursday, 20 December 2007 4:05 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace What a silly suggestion. Everyone knows that scorers can only be trained with bottles of red. Tim simon holding wrote: To train the scorers?? :) Simon As David Conway says, That kind of education is one of the reasons we run JoeyGlide. - mark I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton - Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 - Fax: +61-8-82231777 - ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide airspace
The Australian Nationals Rules do not differentiate. There is a three-level penalty which is the same as that which operates at World Comps: first offence, outlanding at the point of the offence; second offence, zero for the day; third offence, disqualification. Naturally, an outlanding before the start makes the first offence the same as the second :) I do not know why Joeyglide would be runto any other rule. They should be running on current Nationals rules - and until I had spoken to the CD, I would not assume otherwise, regardless of what may be posted in this forum. Tim Mike Borgelt wrote: At 10:15 AM 20/12/2007, you wrote: Well this changes everything. The scorer has undertaken to seek clarification about the rules, and it seems that pre-start airspace violations provide for a 100 point penalty, not zero points. There'll be updated scores in due course :-) The other interesting thing is that we're now five days into the contest and none of the people affected by this have read the rules and raised a protest. As David Conway says, That kind of education is one of the reasons we run JoeyGlide. - mark Maybe nobody bothered with that rule because it is absurd. Could someone please detail the thinking, to use the term loosely, behind that penalty system? Surely an airspace violation during a contest flight is just that and the penalty should be the same no matter when it occurred? The consequences whether in civil penalties or mid airs are surely the same. I can't see CASA bothering to differentiate between pre start and after start when taking the violater to court. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 Int'l + 61 429 355784 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide Trivia Night
Hi There, I have been tasked with writing the questions for tonight's JoeyGlide Trivia Night. If you have a passion for the obscure and gliding related would you please send me some questions? Please send them directly to my email address ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) - sending them back to the list would defeat the purpose :) Nick. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide Trivia Night
Hi Nick For what time is the trivia night scheduled??? Bernard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Gilbert Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2007 1:55 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide Trivia Night Hi There, I have been tasked with writing the questions for tonight's JoeyGlide Trivia Night. If you have a passion for the obscure and gliding related would you please send me some questions? Please send them directly to my email address ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) - sending them back to the list would defeat the purpose :) Nick. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Joeyglide
Ashley Boyle from Beverley in WA will give them a run for their money. I believe he won today?? My money's on him! Don Woodward ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide Trivia Night
Hi There, On the evening of the 19th of December (the midpoint of JoeyGlide) there will be a Trivia Night at Gawler. The bulk of the questions will be gliding-centric and a good time will be had by all. If you are interested in getting a team together and attending, or just want to come on your own and join another team, we can accommodate you. Here are the details: Date : Wednesday 19th December Time : Starting at 7.30pm Teams : 4 - 7 people per team Entry Fee : $5 per person Please email me for more detail, or if you want to attend. Nick. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide Trivia Night
Hi Nick Please count me in!!! Thanks Bernard Eckey Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Gilbert Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2007 12:35 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide Trivia Night Hi There, On the evening of the 19th of December (the midpoint of JoeyGlide) there will be a Trivia Night at Gawler. The bulk of the questions will be gliding-centric and a good time will be had by all. If you are interested in getting a team together and attending, or just want to come on your own and join another team, we can accommodate you. Here are the details: Date : Wednesday 19th December Time : Starting at 7.30pm Teams : 4 - 7 people per team Entry Fee : $5 per person Please email me for more detail, or if you want to attend. Nick. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Scholarship !
Nick, I must commend all for this. Good on you. http://www.joeyglide.com/FreeTrainingScholarship/tabid/202/Default.aspx Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Scholarship !
I think its damn decent of cath to do that JR - Original Message - From: Mark Newton To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Cc: Mal Bruce Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Scholarship ! On 16/11/2007, at 3:40 PM, Nick Gilbert wrote: This year Internode are also providing one of their more senior network engineers to be the comp Safety Officer! Well -- one of them has taken a week of annual leave, anyway, which isn't -quite- the same thing...! - mark I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton - Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 - Fax: +61-8-82231777 - -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Scholarship !
On 16/11/2007, at 3:40 PM, Nick Gilbert wrote: This year Internode are also providing one of their more senior network engineers to be the comp Safety Officer! Well -- one of them has taken a week of annual leave, anyway, which isn't -quite- the same thing...! - mark I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton - Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 - Fax: +61-8-82231777 - ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Scholarship !
Thanks Mal, The two people to be thanked in this case are Martin Feeg (who came up with the concept, and thought it a good way to get exposure and give something back to the host city/town) and Simon Hackett (ie. Internode) for their ever-generous sponsorship. This year Internode are also providing one of their more senior network engineers to be the comp Safety Officer! Nick. On Nov 16, 2007 12:52 PM, Mal Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick, I must commend all for this. Good on you. http://www.joeyglide.com/FreeTrainingScholarship/tabid/202/Default.aspx Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Joeyglide / Junior Soaring Mailing List
Hi There, To get away from the current Yahoo list we have, a new mailing list for discussions relating to Junior Soaring and JoeyGlide has been created. There is a new 'Mailing List' page on the JoeyGlide website ( www.JoeyGlide.com ) for those who are either a Junior ( sub 26 y.o.) or that have an active interest in the junior movement in general and would like to subscribe. Nick. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA
Nah, Its a bit like the military, only officers are entitled to wear one. - Original Message - From: David Lawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA And I thought all WA pilots wore tartan hats!(with bobble)(-: ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA
Is there going to be a coaching thing on at all? If so what would the dates and required standards be. Regards, Joshua Phillips On 5/1/07, Nick Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually they are not yet, but will be fully updated in the coming days / weeks. The information we have at the moment is: Location : Adelaide Soaring Club - Gawler, SA Dates : 16th - 22nd December 2007 Practice Period : Likely to be full week preceding event Age Limit : You must be younger than 26 at the beginning of the comp Minimum Experience Level : C Certificate with CFI approval, *Aerotow Rating* Tasking : Mixture of Assigned Speed (AST) and Assigned Area (AAT) tasks *Suggested* Performance Range : Club Libelle to Ventus a/b (super geese and (other*) bbq hot plates are welcome) Handicaps : Club Class Nationals Handicaps (including modification penalties, such as winglets, fillets, etc) Water Ballast : Permitted If anyone has any further questions, let me know! Nick. * gotcha caleb On 5/1/07, Stueh Stueh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, can't use water ballast, we took the bags out, and there's no way I'm going to attempt to put them back in again (it's done by a network of strings and pulleys, so to speak, and just isn't worth the trouble). Also, just realised it's 17meter not 16.5 . Looking at the Club Class Handicaps on the gfa website it's 0.980 for Diamant 16.5. I'm assuming all the conditions and prices for the comp are on the website. Thanks Nick :) On 01/05/07, Nick Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'Day Dion, JoeyGlide falls under the nationals rules, as do the other 2 national contests. We use the Club Class Handicaps, but it is not necessarily a club class competition as such (competitors can use water ballast). Bring it along! Nick. On 5/1/07, Stueh Stueh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been informed that the joeyglide is a club class competition (or running under club class rules), I know it may seem a stupid question, but it is possible to compete in an open class glider? I have a 16.5meter Diamant, flapped of course, based at Waikerie (VH-GUV). I'd love to compete (still umming and aahing about it) but don't really want to have to hire another glider other than my own. Dion. On 01/05/07, Maurice Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure send the details when you have them sorted. Regards ML At 10:38 AM 01/05/2007, you wrote: Sorry, 16th - 22nd of December, with a pre-comp practice period to be announced. Nick. On 5/1/07, *David Lawley* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What date is the comp Nick? -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Gilbert Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2007 9:44 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA Hi All, It is with great pleasure that I announce that the forthcoming JoeyGlide will be held at Gawler. Gawler has proven itself over many years to be an excellent facility for hosting contests, and the standard of equipment already onsite will allow us to keep to cost to entrant as low as possible. Although the weather can be tricky at times, the idea of the contest is to find the best pilot, not just the best pilot in reliable weather. Those travelling from QLD WA will be compensated by greatly reduced entry fees ($20) we will make every effort to source locally available gliders vehicles to allow them to fly commercially to Adelaide. I have had several emails from S.A. based non-junior pilots who have expressed an interest in helping out - If the offer is still standing we would greatly appreciate your help! Regards. Nick Gilbert JoeyGlide Contest Director ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Brooke Shields - Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA
Hi Joshua, Details still to be finalised, but there will be a coaching programme running in parallel with the competition for anyone with a B Certificate or better that is under the age of 26. Regards, Nick. On 5/1/07, Joshua Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there going to be a coaching thing on at all? If so what would the dates and required standards be. Regards, Joshua Phillips On 5/1/07, Nick Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually they are not yet, but will be fully updated in the coming days / weeks. The information we have at the moment is: Location : Adelaide Soaring Club - Gawler, SA Dates : 16th - 22nd December 2007 Practice Period : Likely to be full week preceding event Age Limit : You must be younger than 26 at the beginning of the comp Minimum Experience Level : C Certificate with CFI approval, *Aerotow Rating* Tasking : Mixture of Assigned Speed (AST) and Assigned Area (AAT) tasks *Suggested* Performance Range : Club Libelle to Ventus a/b (super geese and (other*) bbq hot plates are welcome) Handicaps : Club Class Nationals Handicaps (including modification penalties, such as winglets, fillets, etc) Water Ballast : Permitted If anyone has any further questions, let me know! Nick. * gotcha caleb On 5/1/07, Stueh Stueh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, can't use water ballast, we took the bags out, and there's no way I'm going to attempt to put them back in again (it's done by a network of strings and pulleys, so to speak, and just isn't worth the trouble). Also, just realised it's 17meter not 16.5 . Looking at the Club Class Handicaps on the gfa website it's 0.980 for Diamant 16.5. I'm assuming all the conditions and prices for the comp are on the website. Thanks Nick :) On 01/05/07, Nick Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'Day Dion, JoeyGlide falls under the nationals rules, as do the other 2 national contests. We use the Club Class Handicaps, but it is not necessarily a club class competition as such (competitors can use water ballast). Bring it along! Nick. On 5/1/07, Stueh Stueh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been informed that the joeyglide is a club class competition (or running under club class rules), I know it may seem a stupid question, but it is possible to compete in an open class glider? I have a 16.5 meter Diamant, flapped of course, based at Waikerie (VH-GUV). I'd love to compete (still umming and aahing about it) but don't really want to have to hire another glider other than my own. Dion. On 01/05/07, Maurice Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure send the details when you have them sorted. Regards ML At 10:38 AM 01/05/2007, you wrote: Sorry, 16th - 22nd of December, with a pre-comp practice period to be announced. Nick. On 5/1/07, *David Lawley* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What date is the comp Nick? -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Gilbert Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2007 9:44 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA Hi All, It is with great pleasure that I announce that the forthcoming JoeyGlide will be held at Gawler. Gawler has proven itself over many years to be an excellent facility for hosting contests, and the standard of equipment already onsite will allow us to keep to cost to entrant as low as possible. Although the weather can be tricky at times, the idea of the contest is to find the best pilot, not just the best pilot in reliable weather. Those travelling from QLD WA will be compensated by greatly reduced entry fees ($20) we will make every effort to source locally available gliders vehicles to allow them to fly commercially to Adelaide. I have had several emails from S.A. based non-junior pilots who have expressed an interest in helping out - If the offer is still standing we would greatly appreciate your help! Regards. Nick Gilbert JoeyGlide Contest Director ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing
Re: Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA
You better pull your finger out Josh and get your B, if you go i'll have to escort you over and back just so your parents know your ok wink At least you nerely meet the entry requirements, not like this old fart. Ben - Original Message - From: Joshua Phillips To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 5:01 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA Is there going to be a coaching thing on at all? If so what would the dates and required standards be. Regards, Joshua Phillips On 5/1/07, Nick Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually they are not yet, but will be fully updated in the coming days / weeks. The information we have at the moment is: Location : Adelaide Soaring Club - Gawler, SA Dates : 16th - 22nd December 2007 Practice Period : Likely to be full week preceding event Age Limit : You must be younger than 26 at the beginning of the comp Minimum Experience Level : C Certificate with CFI approval, Aerotow Rating Tasking : Mixture of Assigned Speed (AST) and Assigned Area (AAT) tasks Suggested Performance Range : Club Libelle to Ventus a/b (super geese and (other*) bbq hot plates are welcome) Handicaps : Club Class Nationals Handicaps (including modification penalties, such as winglets, fillets, etc) Water Ballast : Permitted If anyone has any further questions, let me know! Nick. * gotcha caleb ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA
Is Josh a west aussie too? Maybe we could organise a convoy to the next joeyglide! Ash Ben Jones wrote: You better pull your finger out Josh and get your B, if you go i'll have to escort you over and back just so your parents know your ok wink At least you nerely meet the entry requirements, not like this old fart. Ben - Original Message - *From:* Joshua Phillips mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Sent:* Tuesday, May 01, 2007 5:01 PM *Subject:* [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA Is there going to be a coaching thing on at all? If so what would the dates and required standards be. Regards, Joshua Phillips On 5/1/07, *Nick Gilbert* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually they are not yet, but will be fully updated in the coming days / weeks. The information we have at the moment is: Location : Adelaide Soaring Club - Gawler, SA Dates : 16th - 22nd December 2007 Practice Period : Likely to be full week preceding event Age Limit : You must be younger than 26 at the beginning of the comp Minimum Experience Level : C Certificate with CFI approval, *_Aerotow Rating_* Tasking : Mixture of Assigned Speed (AST) and Assigned Area (AAT) tasks _*Suggested*_ Performance Range : Club Libelle to Ventus a/b (super geese and (other*) bbq hot plates are welcome) Handicaps : Club Class Nationals Handicaps (including modification penalties, such as winglets, fillets, etc) Water Ballast : Permitted If anyone has any further questions, let me know! Nick. * gotcha caleb ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA
Yep on of my airforce cadets that fly's with me, he's a Narrogin member but we won't hold that against him 8-) If we are going to convoy across the paddocks, ill have to get a tartin rug for the parcell shelf, ditch all my cd's, subscribe to Readers digest and get a TTH just to make the trip authentic. Ben - Original Message - From: Ashley Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA Is Josh a west aussie too? Maybe we could organise a convoy to the next joeyglide! Ash Ben Jones wrote: You better pull your finger out Josh and get your B, if you go i'll have to escort you over and back just so your parents know your ok wink At least you nerely meet the entry requirements, not like this old fart. Ben - Original Message - *From:* Joshua Phillips mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Sent:* Tuesday, May 01, 2007 5:01 PM *Subject:* [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA Is there going to be a coaching thing on at all? If so what would the dates and required standards be. Regards, Joshua Phillips ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA
And I thought all WA pilots wore tartan hats!(with bobble)(-: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Jones Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2007 8:17 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA Yep on of my airforce cadets that fly's with me, he's a Narrogin member but we won't hold that against him 8-) If we are going to convoy across the paddocks, ill have to get a tartin rug for the parcell shelf, ditch all my cd's, subscribe to Readers digest and get a TTH just to make the trip authentic. Ben - Original Message - From: Ashley Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA Is Josh a west aussie too? Maybe we could organise a convoy to the next joeyglide! Ash Ben Jones wrote: You better pull your finger out Josh and get your B, if you go i'll have to escort you over and back just so your parents know your ok wink At least you nerely meet the entry requirements, not like this old fart. Ben - Original Message - *From:* Joshua Phillips mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Sent:* Tuesday, May 01, 2007 5:01 PM *Subject:* [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA Is there going to be a coaching thing on at all? If so what would the dates and required standards be. Regards, Joshua Phillips ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA
Hi All, It is with great pleasure that I announce that the forthcoming JoeyGlide will be held at Gawler. Gawler has proven itself over many years to be an excellent facility for hosting contests, and the standard of equipment already onsite will allow us to keep to cost to entrant as low as possible. Although the weather can be tricky at times, the idea of the contest is to find the best pilot, not just the best pilot in reliable weather. Those travelling from QLD WA will be compensated by greatly reduced entry fees ($20) we will make every effort to source locally available gliders vehicles to allow them to fly commercially to Adelaide. I have had several emails from S.A. based non-junior pilots who have expressed an interest in helping out - If the offer is still standing we would greatly appreciate your help! Regards. Nick Gilbert JoeyGlide Contest Director ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA
What date is the comp Nick? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Gilbert Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2007 9:44 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA Hi All, It is with great pleasure that I announce that the forthcoming JoeyGlide will be held at Gawler. Gawler has proven itself over many years to be an excellent facility for hosting contests, and the standard of equipment already onsite will allow us to keep to cost to entrant as low as possible. Although the weather can be tricky at times, the idea of the contest is to find the best pilot, not just the best pilot in reliable weather. Those travelling from QLD WA will be compensated by greatly reduced entry fees ($20) we will make every effort to source locally available gliders vehicles to allow them to fly commercially to Adelaide. I have had several emails from S.A. based non-junior pilots who have expressed an interest in helping out - If the offer is still standing we would greatly appreciate your help! Regards. Nick Gilbert JoeyGlide Contest Director ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA
Sorry, 16th - 22nd of December, with a pre-comp practice period to be announced. Nick. On 5/1/07, David Lawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What date is the comp Nick? -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Nick Gilbert *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 May 2007 9:44 AM *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. *Subject:* [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA Hi All, It is with great pleasure that I announce that the forthcoming JoeyGlide will be held at Gawler. Gawler has proven itself over many years to be an excellent facility for hosting contests, and the standard of equipment already onsite will allow us to keep to cost to entrant as low as possible. Although the weather can be tricky at times, the idea of the contest is to find the best pilot, not just the best pilot in reliable weather. Those travelling from QLD WA will be compensated by greatly reduced entry fees ($20) we will make every effort to source locally available gliders vehicles to allow them to fly commercially to Adelaide. I have had several emails from S.A. based non-junior pilots who have expressed an interest in helping out - If the offer is still standing we would greatly appreciate your help! Regards. Nick Gilbert JoeyGlide Contest Director ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA
Sure send the details when you have them sorted. Regards ML At 10:38 AM 01/05/2007, you wrote: Sorry, 16th - 22nd of December, with a pre-comp practice period to be announced. Nick. On 5/1/07, David Lawley mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What date is the comp Nick? -- From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Nick Gilbert Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2007 9:44 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA Hi All, It is with great pleasure that I announce that the forthcoming JoeyGlide will be held at Gawler. Gawler has proven itself over many years to be an excellent facility for hosting contests, and the standard of equipment already onsite will allow us to keep to cost to entrant as low as possible. Although the weather can be tricky at times, the idea of the contest is to find the best pilot, not just the best pilot in reliable weather. Those travelling from QLD WA will be compensated by greatly reduced entry fees ($20) we will make every effort to source locally available gliders vehicles to allow them to fly commercially to Adelaide. I have had several emails from S.A. based non-junior pilots who have expressed an interest in helping out - If the offer is still standing we would greatly appreciate your help! Regards. Nick Gilbert JoeyGlide Contest Director ___ Aus-soaring mailing list mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaringhttp://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA
I've been informed that the joeyglide is a club class competition (or running under club class rules), I know it may seem a stupid question, but it is possible to compete in an open class glider? I have a 16.5 meter Diamant, flapped of course, based at Waikerie (VH-GUV). I'd love to compete (still umming and aahing about it) but don't really want to have to hire another glider other than my own. Dion. On 01/05/07, Maurice Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure send the details when you have them sorted. Regards ML At 10:38 AM 01/05/2007, you wrote: Sorry, 16th - 22nd of December, with a pre-comp practice period to be announced. Nick. On 5/1/07, *David Lawley* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What date is the comp Nick? -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Gilbert Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2007 9:44 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA Hi All, It is with great pleasure that I announce that the forthcoming JoeyGlide will be held at Gawler. Gawler has proven itself over many years to be an excellent facility for hosting contests, and the standard of equipment already onsite will allow us to keep to cost to entrant as low as possible. Although the weather can be tricky at times, the idea of the contest is to find the best pilot, not just the best pilot in reliable weather. Those travelling from QLD WA will be compensated by greatly reduced entry fees ($20) we will make every effort to source locally available gliders vehicles to allow them to fly commercially to Adelaide. I have had several emails from S.A. based non-junior pilots who have expressed an interest in helping out - If the offer is still standing we would greatly appreciate your help! Regards. Nick Gilbert JoeyGlide Contest Director ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Brooke Shields - Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA
G'Day Dion, JoeyGlide falls under the nationals rules, as do the other 2 national contests. We use the Club Class Handicaps, but it is not necessarily a club class competition as such (competitors can use water ballast). Bring it along! Nick. On 5/1/07, Stueh Stueh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been informed that the joeyglide is a club class competition (or running under club class rules), I know it may seem a stupid question, but it is possible to compete in an open class glider? I have a 16.5 meter Diamant, flapped of course, based at Waikerie (VH-GUV). I'd love to compete (still umming and aahing about it) but don't really want to have to hire another glider other than my own. Dion. On 01/05/07, Maurice Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure send the details when you have them sorted. Regards ML At 10:38 AM 01/05/2007, you wrote: Sorry, 16th - 22nd of December, with a pre-comp practice period to be announced. Nick. On 5/1/07, *David Lawley* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What date is the comp Nick? -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Gilbert Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2007 9:44 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA Hi All, It is with great pleasure that I announce that the forthcoming JoeyGlide will be held at Gawler. Gawler has proven itself over many years to be an excellent facility for hosting contests, and the standard of equipment already onsite will allow us to keep to cost to entrant as low as possible. Although the weather can be tricky at times, the idea of the contest is to find the best pilot, not just the best pilot in reliable weather. Those travelling from QLD WA will be compensated by greatly reduced entry fees ($20) we will make every effort to source locally available gliders vehicles to allow them to fly commercially to Adelaide. I have had several emails from S.A. based non-junior pilots who have expressed an interest in helping out - If the offer is still standing we would greatly appreciate your help! Regards. Nick Gilbert JoeyGlide Contest Director ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Brooke Shields - Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA
Heh, can't use water ballast, we took the bags out, and there's no way I'm going to attempt to put them back in again (it's done by a network of strings and pulleys, so to speak, and just isn't worth the trouble). Also, just realised it's 17meter not 16.5 . Looking at the Club Class Handicaps on the gfa website it's 0.980 for Diamant 16.5. I'm assuming all the conditions and prices for the comp are on the website. Thanks Nick :) On 01/05/07, Nick Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'Day Dion, JoeyGlide falls under the nationals rules, as do the other 2 national contests. We use the Club Class Handicaps, but it is not necessarily a club class competition as such (competitors can use water ballast). Bring it along! Nick. On 5/1/07, Stueh Stueh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been informed that the joeyglide is a club class competition (or running under club class rules), I know it may seem a stupid question, but it is possible to compete in an open class glider? I have a 16.5 meter Diamant, flapped of course, based at Waikerie (VH-GUV). I'd love to compete (still umming and aahing about it) but don't really want to have to hire another glider other than my own. Dion. On 01/05/07, Maurice Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure send the details when you have them sorted. Regards ML At 10:38 AM 01/05/2007, you wrote: Sorry, 16th - 22nd of December, with a pre-comp practice period to be announced. Nick. On 5/1/07, *David Lawley* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What date is the comp Nick? -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Gilbert Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2007 9:44 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA Hi All, It is with great pleasure that I announce that the forthcoming JoeyGlide will be held at Gawler. Gawler has proven itself over many years to be an excellent facility for hosting contests, and the standard of equipment already onsite will allow us to keep to cost to entrant as low as possible. Although the weather can be tricky at times, the idea of the contest is to find the best pilot, not just the best pilot in reliable weather. Those travelling from QLD WA will be compensated by greatly reduced entry fees ($20) we will make every effort to source locally available gliders vehicles to allow them to fly commercially to Adelaide. I have had several emails from S.A. based non-junior pilots who have expressed an interest in helping out - If the offer is still standing we would greatly appreciate your help! Regards. Nick Gilbert JoeyGlide Contest Director ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Brooke Shields - Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Brooke Shields - Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA
Actually they are not yet, but will be fully updated in the coming days / weeks. The information we have at the moment is: Location : Adelaide Soaring Club - Gawler, SA Dates : 16th - 22nd December 2007 Practice Period : Likely to be full week preceding event Age Limit : You must be younger than 26 at the beginning of the comp Minimum Experience Level : C Certificate with CFI approval, *Aerotow Rating* Tasking : Mixture of Assigned Speed (AST) and Assigned Area (AAT) tasks *Suggested* Performance Range : Club Libelle to Ventus a/b (super geese and (other*) bbq hot plates are welcome) Handicaps : Club Class Nationals Handicaps (including modification penalties, such as winglets, fillets, etc) Water Ballast : Permitted If anyone has any further questions, let me know! Nick. * gotcha caleb On 5/1/07, Stueh Stueh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, can't use water ballast, we took the bags out, and there's no way I'm going to attempt to put them back in again (it's done by a network of strings and pulleys, so to speak, and just isn't worth the trouble). Also, just realised it's 17meter not 16.5 . Looking at the Club Class Handicaps on the gfa website it's 0.980 for Diamant 16.5. I'm assuming all the conditions and prices for the comp are on the website. Thanks Nick :) On 01/05/07, Nick Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'Day Dion, JoeyGlide falls under the nationals rules, as do the other 2 national contests. We use the Club Class Handicaps, but it is not necessarily a club class competition as such (competitors can use water ballast). Bring it along! Nick. On 5/1/07, Stueh Stueh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been informed that the joeyglide is a club class competition (or running under club class rules), I know it may seem a stupid question, but it is possible to compete in an open class glider? I have a 16.5 meter Diamant, flapped of course, based at Waikerie (VH-GUV). I'd love to compete (still umming and aahing about it) but don't really want to have to hire another glider other than my own. Dion. On 01/05/07, Maurice Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure send the details when you have them sorted. Regards ML At 10:38 AM 01/05/2007, you wrote: Sorry, 16th - 22nd of December, with a pre-comp practice period to be announced. Nick. On 5/1/07, *David Lawley* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What date is the comp Nick? -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Gilbert Sent: Tuesday, 1 May 2007 9:44 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 07/08 - Gawler, SA Hi All, It is with great pleasure that I announce that the forthcoming JoeyGlide will be held at Gawler. Gawler has proven itself over many years to be an excellent facility for hosting contests, and the standard of equipment already onsite will allow us to keep to cost to entrant as low as possible. Although the weather can be tricky at times, the idea of the contest is to find the best pilot, not just the best pilot in reliable weather. Those travelling from QLD WA will be compensated by greatly reduced entry fees ($20) we will make every effort to source locally available gliders vehicles to allow them to fly commercially to Adelaide. I have had several emails from S.A. based non-junior pilots who have expressed an interest in helping out - If the offer is still standing we would greatly appreciate your help! Regards. Nick Gilbert JoeyGlide Contest Director ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Brooke Shields - Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus
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If Internode can better what i'm being slugged for ADSL now, then no worries ill switch and thay can have my business, not a problem ! Come on the sales pitch ! Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Nick Gilbert To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 7:18 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Of course, if you cant make it to JoeyGlide to give us a hand, the least you can do is switch to using Internode for your ISP. Not only do they provide this list, they are by far the biggest sponsor for JoeyGlide - There is no way it would be growing the way it is without their support. God bless you Simon. Nick On 3/13/07, Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would but i'm a member of the 716 Airforce Cadets club in WA The problem i have is we are aimed at doing early flying trainin to basically C cert , then we encourage the students to join a local club and continue there training and further flying, At the moment we have only instructing staff as full members, consisting of 2 instructors, 1 Aei, and 2 tuggies in training (one being me),and 1 Puchatek, i'm at the point where i have to join another club eg Berverly , Narrogin or GCWA to continue the more advanced flying and tryout some comp stuff to see if i make the grade, So its off to another club for me What i would like to do once a tiny couple of ticks in the boxes for my training are completed is to attend a Coaching type event over east, where i can burn some fequent flyer points before they become extinct, go for a holiday fly my guts out and hopefully pick up some finer points of gliding over a week and a half and enjoy the sport before i find myself doing the aei thing and hearded into the tug, and meet the other juniors in the sport over a couple of tinnies / or reds for the older folk. Joey glide looked like it would fit my bill very nicely obviously not as a competitor now ... but if coaching in a twin for a week is avbl i'm still interested. It would be nice to fly a glider and actually see the vario go above zero and finally break through 5000ft i hear its been done before but ive never been in a cockpit and seen it when it has happened 8-), and when i have cracked the long hour flights i always seem to have ballast sitting behind me , which negates the use of those flight towards my C cert. Bummer. Regards Ben - Original Message - From: Nick Gilbert To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Ben, i'm sure we could find something for you to do Why not encourage someone from your club to compete, and crew for them! Nick. On 3/13/07, Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick, Ya just made a semi grown man cry, looks like i'm out being 28, But i still would like to attend and get away from work (paid work) for a couple of weeks, do you need extra tug pilots ? and rope runners ? sniff sniff Ben - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Interestingly enough, there has been very little correlation between experience (hours wise) and performance in the competition. The winner of last years event had 100 hours, and beat several 1000+ pilots. Those of you who are not able to compete due to being chronologically challenged (as I am) are welcome to come along anyway and assist us! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/03/2007 10:48 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide There may be an opportunity to expand the definition of 'Junior' there then Nick :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 9:45 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia
Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide
Reliable and very fast! And with big . . . er . . . downloads . . . Well the analogy has fallen apart there but you get the point! Tom - Original Message - From: Simon Hackett To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Do you want to fly in the cheapest and nastiest glider, or one thats reliable. There you you - you have your answer. http://www.internode.on.net/adsl (and its not even expensive) Simon On 14/03/2007, at 8:24 PM, Ben Jones wrote: If Internode can better what i'm being slugged for ADSL now, then no worries ill switch and thay can have my business, not a problem ! Come on the sales pitch ! Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Nick Gilbert To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 7:18 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Of course, if you cant make it to JoeyGlide to give us a hand, the least you can do is switch to using Internode for your ISP. Not only do they provide this list, they are by far the biggest sponsor for JoeyGlide - There is no way it would be growing the way it is without their support. God bless you Simon. Nick On 3/13/07, Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would but i'm a member of the 716 Airforce Cadets club in WA The problem i have is we are aimed at doing early flying trainin to basically C cert , then we encourage the students to join a local club and continue there training and further flying, At the moment we have only instructing staff as full members, consisting of 2 instructors, 1 Aei, and 2 tuggies in training (one being me),and 1 Puchatek, i'm at the point where i have to join another club eg Berverly , Narrogin or GCWA to continue the more advanced flying and tryout some comp stuff to see if i make the grade, So its off to another club for me What i would like to do once a tiny couple of ticks in the boxes for my training are completed is to attend a Coaching type event over east, where i can burn some fequent flyer points before they become extinct, go for a holiday fly my guts out and hopefully pick up some finer points of gliding over a week and a half and enjoy the sport before i find myself doing the aei thing and hearded into the tug, and meet the other juniors in the sport over a couple of tinnies / or reds for the older folk. Joey glide looked like it would fit my bill very nicely obviously not as a competitor now ... but if coaching in a twin for a week is avbl i'm still interested. It would be nice to fly a glider and actually see the vario go above zero and finally break through 5000ft i hear its been done before but ive never been in a cockpit and seen it when it has happened 8-), and when i have cracked the long hour flights i always seem to have ballast sitting behind me , which negates the use of those flight towards my C cert. Bummer. Regards Ben - Original Message - From: Nick Gilbert To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Ben, i'm sure we could find something for you to do Why not encourage someone from your club to compete, and crew for them! Nick. On 3/13/07, Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick, Ya just made a semi grown man cry, looks like i'm out being 28, But i still would like to attend and get away from work (paid work) for a couple of weeks, do you need extra tug pilots ? and rope runners ? sniff sniff Ben - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Interestingly enough, there has been very little correlation between experience (hours wise) and performance in the competition. The winner of last years event had 100 hours, and beat several 1000+ pilots. Those of you who are not able to compete due to being chronologically challenged (as I am) are welcome to come along anyway and assist us! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent
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I would but i'm a member of the 716 Airforce Cadets club in WA The problem i have is we are aimed at doing early flying trainin to basically C cert , then we encourage the students to join a local club and continue there training and further flying, At the moment we have only instructing staff as full members, consisting of 2 instructors, 1 Aei, and 2 tuggies in training (one being me),and 1 Puchatek, i'm at the point where i have to join another club eg Berverly , Narrogin or GCWA to continue the more advanced flying and tryout some comp stuff to see if i make the grade, So its off to another club for me What i would like to do once a tiny couple of ticks in the boxes for my training are completed is to attend a Coaching type event over east, where i can burn some fequent flyer points before they become extinct, go for a holiday fly my guts out and hopefully pick up some finer points of gliding over a week and a half and enjoy the sport before i find myself doing the aei thing and hearded into the tug, and meet the other juniors in the sport over a couple of tinnies / or reds for the older folk. Joey glide looked like it would fit my bill very nicely obviously not as a competitor now ... but if coaching in a twin for a week is avbl i'm still interested. It would be nice to fly a glider and actually see the vario go above zero and finally break through 5000ft i hear its been done before but ive never been in a cockpit and seen it when it has happened 8-), and when i have cracked the long hour flights i always seem to have ballast sitting behind me , which negates the use of those flight towards my C cert. Bummer. Regards Ben - Original Message - From: Nick Gilbert To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Ben, i'm sure we could find something for you to do Why not encourage someone from your club to compete, and crew for them! Nick. On 3/13/07, Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick, Ya just made a semi grown man cry, looks like i'm out being 28, But i still would like to attend and get away from work (paid work) for a couple of weeks, do you need extra tug pilots ? and rope runners ? sniff sniff Ben - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Interestingly enough, there has been very little correlation between experience (hours wise) and performance in the competition. The winner of last years event had 100 hours, and beat several 1000+ pilots. Those of you who are not able to compete due to being chronologically challenged (as I am) are welcome to come along anyway and assist us! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/03/2007 10:48 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide There may be an opportunity to expand the definition of 'Junior' there then Nick :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 9:45 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Ben, You have to be less than 26 years old at the start of the competition. There are no limitations with regard to flying experience - we have had pilots with 100hrs, and pilots with 4000hrs! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/2007 07:32 PM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Just read the article in SA about Joeyglide very interesting ! Just a couple of questions What are the requirements for entry and are there any max age limits or experience limits. And if i did endup entering the next one do i have to beg borrow or steal a glider and drag it across the paddock from
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Come to beverley mate promise you wont regret it! We have a very cross country orientated club with helpful coaches great instructors nice facility's and excellent aircraft. I will even shout you a free ride in our DG-1000. We have good training aircraft like the ask-21 and puchacz. Ash Ben Jones wrote: I would but i'm a member of the 716 Airforce Cadets club in WA The problem i have is we are aimed at doing early flying trainin to basically C cert , then we encourage the students to join a local club and continue there training and further flying, At the moment we have only instructing staff as full members, consisting of 2 instructors, 1 Aei, and 2 tuggies in training (one being me),and 1 Puchatek, i'm at the point where i have to join another club eg Berverly , Narrogin or GCWA to continue the more advanced flying and tryout some comp stuff to see if i make the grade, So its off to another club for me What i would like to do once a tiny couple of ticks in the boxes for my training are completed is to attend a Coaching type event over east, where i can burn some fequent flyer points before they become extinct, go for a holiday fly my guts out and hopefully pick up some finer points of gliding over a week and a half and enjoy the sport before i find myself doing the aei thing and hearded into the tug, and meet the other juniors in the sport over a couple of tinnies / or reds for the older folk. Joey glide looked like it would fit my bill very nicely obviously not as a competitor now ... but if coaching in a twin for a week is avbl i'm still interested. It would be nice to fly a glider and actually see the vario go above zero and finally break through 5000ft i hear its been done before but ive never been in a cockpit and seen it when it has happened 8-), and when i have cracked the long hour flights i always seem to have ballast sitting behind me , which negates the use of those flight towards my C cert. Bummer. Regards Ben - Original Message - *From:* Nick Gilbert mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Ben, i'm sure we could find something for you to do Why not encourage someone from your club to compete, and crew for them! Nick. On 3/13/07, *Ben Jones* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick, Ya just made a semi grown man cry, looks like i'm out being 28, But i still would like to attend and get away from work (paid work) for a couple of weeks, do you need extra tug pilots ? and rope runners ? sniff sniff Ben - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Interestingly enough, there has been very little correlation between experience (hours wise) and performance in the competition. The winner of last years event had 100 hours, and beat several 1000+ pilots. Those of you who are not able to compete due to being chronologically challenged (as I am) are welcome to come along anyway and assist us! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/03/2007 10:48 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide There may be an opportunity to expand the definition of 'Junior' there then Nick :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 9:45 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring
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But you have to weigh up the fact that Ashley also flies there. Difficult Having said that, Ash also flies at the Juniors so your bang out of luch really :-) Tom - Original Message - From: Ashley Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Come to beverley mate promise you wont regret it! We have a very cross country orientated club with helpful coaches great instructors nice facility's and excellent aircraft. I will even shout you a free ride in our DG-1000. We have good training aircraft like the ask-21 and puchacz. Ash Ben Jones wrote: I would but i'm a member of the 716 Airforce Cadets club in WA The problem i have is we are aimed at doing early flying trainin to basically C cert , then we encourage the students to join a local club and continue there training and further flying, At the moment we have only instructing staff as full members, consisting of 2 instructors, 1 Aei, and 2 tuggies in training (one being me),and 1 Puchatek, i'm at the point where i have to join another club eg Berverly , Narrogin or GCWA to continue the more advanced flying and tryout some comp stuff to see if i make the grade, So its off to another club for me What i would like to do once a tiny couple of ticks in the boxes for my training are completed is to attend a Coaching type event over east, where i can burn some fequent flyer points before they become extinct, go for a holiday fly my guts out and hopefully pick up some finer points of gliding over a week and a half and enjoy the sport before i find myself doing the aei thing and hearded into the tug, and meet the other juniors in the sport over a couple of tinnies / or reds for the older folk. Joey glide looked like it would fit my bill very nicely obviously not as a competitor now ... but if coaching in a twin for a week is avbl i'm still interested. It would be nice to fly a glider and actually see the vario go above zero and finally break through 5000ft i hear its been done before but ive never been in a cockpit and seen it when it has happened 8-), and when i have cracked the long hour flights i always seem to have ballast sitting behind me , which negates the use of those flight towards my C cert. Bummer. Regards Ben - Original Message - *From:* Nick Gilbert mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Ben, i'm sure we could find something for you to do Why not encourage someone from your club to compete, and crew for them! Nick. On 3/13/07, *Ben Jones* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick, Ya just made a semi grown man cry, looks like i'm out being 28, But i still would like to attend and get away from work (paid work) for a couple of weeks, do you need extra tug pilots ? and rope runners ? sniff sniff Ben - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Interestingly enough, there has been very little correlation between experience (hours wise) and performance in the competition. The winner of last years event had 100 hours, and beat several 1000+ pilots. Those of you who are not able to compete due to being chronologically challenged (as I am) are welcome to come along anyway and assist us! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/03/2007 10:48 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide There may be an opportunity to expand the definition of 'Junior' there then Nick
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Of course, if you cant make it to JoeyGlide to give us a hand, the least you can do is switch to using Internode for your ISP. Not only do they provide this list, they are by far the biggest sponsor for JoeyGlide - There is no way it would be growing the way it is without their support. God bless you Simon. Nick On 3/13/07, Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would but i'm a member of the 716 Airforce Cadets club in WA The problem i have is we are aimed at doing early flying trainin to basically C cert , then we encourage the students to join a local club and continue there training and further flying, At the moment we have only instructing staff as full members, consisting of 2 instructors, 1 Aei, and 2 tuggies in training (one being me),and 1 Puchatek, i'm at the point where i have to join another club eg Berverly , Narrogin or GCWA to continue the more advanced flying and tryout some comp stuff to see if i make the grade, So its off to another club for me What i would like to do once a tiny couple of ticks in the boxes for my training are completed is to attend a Coaching type event over east, where i can burn some fequent flyer points before they become extinct, go for a holiday fly my guts out and hopefully pick up some finer points of gliding over a week and a half and enjoy the sport before i find myself doing the aei thing and hearded into the tug, and meet the other juniors in the sport over a couple of tinnies / or reds for the older folk. Joey glide looked like it would fit my bill very nicely obviously not as a competitor now ... but if coaching in a twin for a week is avbl i'm still interested. It would be nice to fly a glider and actually see the vario go above zero and finally break through 5000ft i hear its been done before but ive never been in a cockpit and seen it when it has happened 8-), and when i have cracked the long hour flights i always seem to have ballast sitting behind me , which negates the use of those flight towards my C cert. Bummer. Regards Ben - Original Message - *From:* Nick Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Ben, i'm sure we could find something for you to do Why not encourage someone from your club to compete, and crew for them! Nick. On 3/13/07, Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick, Ya just made a semi grown man cry, looks like i'm out being 28, But i still would like to attend and get away from work (paid work) for a couple of weeks, do you need extra tug pilots ? and rope runners ? sniff sniff Ben - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Interestingly enough, there has been very little correlation between experience (hours wise) and performance in the competition. The winner of last years event had 100 hours, and beat several 1000+ pilots. Those of you who are not able to compete due to being chronologically challenged (as I am) are welcome to come along anyway and assist us! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/03/2007 10:48 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide There may be an opportunity to expand the definition of 'Junior' there then Nick :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 9:45 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Ben, You have to be less than 26 years old at the start of the competition. There are no limitations with regard to flying experience - we have had pilots with 100hrs, and pilots with 4000hrs! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/2007 07:32 PM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Just read the article in SA about Joeyglide very interesting ! Just a couple of questions What are the requirements for entry and are there any max age limits or experience limits. And if i did endup entering the next one do i have to beg
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Thanks Guy's will do give me a couple of weeks and i'll have a free weekend, i'll be in contact before that. Deal ...Ash take me up in the new Dg-1000 and ill take you for a ride in the Decalthon 180hp's of pure peasure. Ben - Original Message - From: McLean Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide And don't forget the Cirrus, Ash! Come out have a fly Ben - you'll be more than welcome. Richard McLean --- Ashley Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come to beverley mate promise you wont regret it! We have a very cross country orientated club with helpful coaches great instructors nice facility's and excellent aircraft. I will even shout you a free ride in our DG-1000. We have good training aircraft like the ask-21 and puchacz. Ash Ben Jones wrote: I would but i'm a member of the 716 Airforce Cadets club in WA The problem i have is we are aimed at doing early flying trainin to basically C cert , then we encourage the students to join a local club and continue there training and further flying, At the moment we have only instructing staff as full members, consisting of 2 instructors, 1 Aei, and 2 tuggies in training (one being me),and 1 Puchatek, i'm at the point where i have to join another club eg Berverly , Narrogin or GCWA to continue the more advanced flying and tryout some comp stuff to see if i make the grade, So its off to another club for me What i would like to do once a tiny couple of ticks in the boxes for my training are completed is to attend a Coaching type event over east, where i can burn some fequent flyer points before they become extinct, go for a holiday fly my guts out and hopefully pick up some finer points of gliding over a week and a half and enjoy the sport before i find myself doing the aei thing and hearded into the tug, and meet the other juniors in the sport over a couple of tinnies / or reds for the older folk. Joey glide looked like it would fit my bill very nicely obviously not as a competitor now ... but if coaching in a twin for a week is avbl i'm still interested. It would be nice to fly a glider and actually see the vario go above zero and finally break through 5000ft i hear its been done before but ive never been in a cockpit and seen it when it has happened 8-), and when i have cracked the long hour flights i always seem to have ballast sitting behind me , which negates the use of those flight towards my C cert. Bummer. Regards Ben - Original Message - *From:* Nick Gilbert mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Ben, i'm sure we could find something for you to do Why not encourage someone from your club to compete, and crew for them! Nick. On 3/13/07, *Ben Jones* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick, Ya just made a semi grown man cry, looks like i'm out being 28, But i still would like to attend and get away from work (paid work) for a couple of weeks, do you need extra tug pilots ? and rope runners ? sniff sniff Ben - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Interestingly enough, there has been very little correlation between experience (hours wise) and performance in the competition. The winner of last years event had 100 hours, and beat several 1000+ pilots. Those of you who are not able to compete due to being chronologically challenged (as I am) are welcome to come along anyway and assist us! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/03/2007 10:48 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
[Aus-soaring] Joeyglide
Just read the article in SA about Joeyglide very interesting ! Just a couple of questions What are the requirements for entry and are there any max age limits or experience limits. And if i did endup entering the next one do i have to beg borrow or steal a glider and drag it across the paddock from WA. Regards Ben Junior in hours but maybee seen as a grandpa in age Jones ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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Ben, You have to be less than 26 years old at the start of the competition. There are no limitations with regard to flying experience - we have had pilots with 100hrs, and pilots with 4000hrs! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/2007 07:32 PM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Just read the article in SA about Joeyglide very interesting ! Just a couple of questions What are the requirements for entry and are there any max age limits or experience limits. And if i did endup entering the next one do i have to beg borrow or steal a glider and drag it across the paddock from WA. Regards Ben Junior in hours but maybee seen as a grandpa in age Jones___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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There may be an opportunity to expand the definition of 'Junior' there then Nick :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 9:45 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Ben, You have to be less than 26 years old at the start of the competition. There are no limitations with regard to flying experience - we have had pilots with 100hrs, and pilots with 4000hrs! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/2007 07:32 PM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Just read the article in SA about Joeyglide very interesting ! Just a couple of questions What are the requirements for entry and are there any max age limits or experience limits. And if i did endup entering the next one do i have to beg borrow or steal a glider and drag it across the paddock from WA. Regards Ben Junior in hours but maybee seen as a grandpa in age Jones ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide
Nick, Ya just made a semi grown man cry, looks like i'm out being 28, But i still would like to attend and get away from work (paid work) for a couple of weeks, do you need extra tug pilots ? and rope runners ? sniff sniff Ben - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Interestingly enough, there has been very little correlation between experience (hours wise) and performance in the competition. The winner of last years event had 100 hours, and beat several 1000+ pilots. Those of you who are not able to compete due to being chronologically challenged (as I am) are welcome to come along anyway and assist us! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/03/2007 10:48 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide There may be an opportunity to expand the definition of 'Junior' there then Nick :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 9:45 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Ben, You have to be less than 26 years old at the start of the competition. There are no limitations with regard to flying experience - we have had pilots with 100hrs, and pilots with 4000hrs! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/2007 07:32 PM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Just read the article in SA about Joeyglide very interesting ! Just a couple of questions What are the requirements for entry and are there any max age limits or experience limits. And if i did endup entering the next one do i have to beg borrow or steal a glider and drag it across the paddock from WA. Regards Ben Junior in hours but maybee seen as a grandpa in age Jones ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide
Ben Have a go in the club class comps. Great fun, great people. You'll be looked after if you make it known it's your first If that makes you nervous, enter a 2 seater and fly with an experienced comp pilot -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Jones Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 4:12 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Nick, Ya just made a semi grown man cry, looks like i'm out being 28, But i still would like to attend and get away from work (paid work) for a couple of weeks, do you need extra tug pilots ? and rope runners ? sniff sniff Ben - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Interestingly enough, there has been very little correlation between experience (hours wise) and performance in the competition. The winner of last years event had 100 hours, and beat several 1000+ pilots. Those of you who are not able to compete due to being chronologically challenged (as I am) are welcome to come along anyway and assist us! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/03/2007 10:48 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide There may be an opportunity to expand the definition of 'Junior' there then Nick :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 9:45 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Ben, You have to be less than 26 years old at the start of the competition. There are no limitations with regard to flying experience - we have had pilots with 100hrs, and pilots with 4000hrs! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/2007 07:32 PM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Just read the article in SA about Joeyglide very interesting ! Just a couple of questions What are the requirements for entry and are there any max age limits or experience limits. And if i did endup entering the next one do i have to beg borrow or steal a glider and drag it across the paddock from WA. Regards Ben Junior in hours but maybee seen as a grandpa in age Jones ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide
Be great to see you there ben Ash Ben Jones wrote: Nick, Ya just made a semi grown man cry, looks like i'm out being 28, But i still would like to attend and get away from work (paid work) for a couple of weeks, do you need extra tug pilots ? and rope runners ? sniff sniff Ben - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Interestingly enough, there has been very little correlation between experience (hours wise) and performance in the competition. The winner of last years event had 100 hours, and beat several 1000+ pilots. Those of you who are not able to compete due to being chronologically challenged (as I am) are welcome to come along anyway and assist us! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/03/2007 10:48 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide There may be an opportunity to expand the definition of 'Junior' there then Nick :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 9:45 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Ben, You have to be less than 26 years old at the start of the competition. There are no limitations with regard to flying experience - we have had pilots with 100hrs, and pilots with 4000hrs! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/2007 07:32 PM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Just read the article in SA about Joeyglide very interesting ! Just a couple of questions What are the requirements for entry and are there any max age limits or experience limits. And if i did endup entering the next one do i have to beg borrow or steal a glider and drag it across the paddock from WA. Regards Ben Junior in hours but maybee seen as a grandpa in age Jones ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide
Ben, i'm sure we could find something for you to do Why not encourage someone from your club to compete, and crew for them! Nick. On 3/13/07, Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick, Ya just made a semi grown man cry, looks like i'm out being 28, But i still would like to attend and get away from work (paid work) for a couple of weeks, do you need extra tug pilots ? and rope runners ? sniff sniff Ben - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Interestingly enough, there has been very little correlation between experience (hours wise) and performance in the competition. The winner of last years event had 100 hours, and beat several 1000+ pilots. Those of you who are not able to compete due to being chronologically challenged (as I am) are welcome to come along anyway and assist us! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/03/2007 10:48 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide There may be an opportunity to expand the definition of 'Junior' there then Nick :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 9:45 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Ben, You have to be less than 26 years old at the start of the competition. There are no limitations with regard to flying experience - we have had pilots with 100hrs, and pilots with 4000hrs! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/2007 07:32 PM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Just read the article in SA about Joeyglide very interesting ! Just a couple of questions What are the requirements for entry and are there any max age limits or experience limits. And if i did endup entering the next one do i have to beg borrow or steal a glider and drag it across the paddock from WA. Regards Ben Junior in hours but maybee seen as a grandpa in age Jones ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2007
Hi Nick, What prompted this? I thought Leeton was almost a done deal? Ulrich Stauss Phone: (08) 8339 5881 Mobile: 0421 151 412 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Gilbert Sent: Tuesday, 13 February 2007 10:32 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2007 Hi All, JoeyGlide is seeking a new home. We have a few irons in the fire already, but are interested in expressions of interest from gliding clubs that are interested in hosting the contest. Here is a very brief rundown on criteria : Must Haves: - Must be reasonably central (sorry Western Australians - central to the eastern southern states :) - Must be 'junior friendly' - Must have generally good weather late December / early January and be able to host the comp at this time. Nice to Haves: - Either Winch Aerotow Ops Possible, or tugs onsite to reduce ferry launch costs - Plenty of non aviation activities (something to do on no-fly days) A small committee is in the process of being formed to evaluate any expressions of interest received. I can be contacted on 0430099771 if you would rather talk about it on the phone first. The contest runs for 7 days and is likely to start in between Christmas and New Year. The contest is pretty close to being self administered - there is not a whole lot of actual club involvement required. Regards, Nick Gilbert. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2007
Hi All, *JoeyGlide is seeking a new home.* We have a few irons in the fire already, but are interested in expressions of interest from gliding clubs that are interested in hosting the contest. Here is a very brief rundown on criteria : Must Haves: - Must be reasonably central (sorry Western Australians - central to the eastern southern states :) - Must be 'junior friendly' - Must have generally good weather late December / early January and be able to host the comp at this time. Nice to Haves: - Either Winch Aerotow Ops Possible, or tugs onsite to reduce ferry launch costs - Plenty of non aviation activities (something to do on no-fly days) A small committee is in the process of being formed to evaluate any expressions of interest received. I can be contacted on 0430099771 if you would rather talk about it on the phone first. The contest runs for 7 days and is likely to start in between Christmas and New Year. The contest is pretty close to being self administered - there is not a whole lot of actual club involvement required. Regards, Nick Gilbert. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2007
G'Day Bernard. I can't give you firm dates, but I can tell you that the comp will begin just before new years (after christmas obviously) and finish in early january. Nick. On 2/13/07, Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Nick We are soon going to have a coaches meeting where we set the date for the next SA coaching week at Waikerie. I'm trying to avoid a clash and therefore I would appreciate if you could let us have firm dates for the next junior nationals? Bernard Eckey Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Nick Gilbert *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 February 2007 10:32 AM *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. *Subject:* [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 2007 Hi All, *Jo**eyGlide is seeking a new home.* We have a few irons in the fire already, but are interested in expressions of interest from gliding clubs that are interested in hosting the contest. Here is a very brief rundown on criteria : Must Haves: - Must be reasonably central (sorry Western Australians - central to the eastern southern states :) - Must be 'junior friendly' - Must have generally good weather late December / early January and be able to host the comp at this time. Nice to Haves: - Either Winch Aerotow Ops Possible, or tugs onsite to reduce ferry launch costs - Plenty of non aviation activities (something to do on no-fly days) A small committee is in the process of being formed to evaluate any expressions of interest received. I can be contacted on 0430099771 if you would rather talk about it on the phone first. The contest runs for 7 days and is likely to start in between Christmas and New Year. The contest is pretty close to being self administered - there is not a whole lot of actual club involvement required. Regards, Nick Gilbert. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide
Happy New Year to all, I was wondering who was the first person to fly a glider for 2007, I launched at 8:48 south aus summer time. regards JR - Original Message - From: Tom Wilksch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:08 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide As I'm sure most of you are aware, the Juniors are currently on in Leeton NSW. The website is updated daily with videos, blogs and results so take a look! Tom -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/609 - Release Date: 29-12-2006 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide
Tom, Other competition web pages usually post the task after briefing it appears as though the Junior's web page does not follow this protocol. Was there a task today 2/1/07 and do you have any provisional results. Are they watching the Grand Prix on Silent Wings? Reg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Wilksch Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2007 5:09 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide As I'm sure most of you are aware, the Juniors are currently on in Leeton NSW. The website is updated daily with videos, blogs and results so take a look! Tom -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/609 - Release Date: 29-12-2006 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide
Hi JR, a good year to you too :) Interesting question. I just read a fellow club members chat email post whose flight started at 8:45 local (AEST)(Its not a rounded time with respect to minutes) By the mention of a time zone and the variable of Daylight Savings Time I had to think a touch more with regards to which time is in fact earlier. Being a Queenslander, what would I know about DST and therefore timezones anyway... That said, is the time zone at all relevant? Correct me if I'm wrong but 2007 started at a different point in time for someone, depending on their time zone. So a launch of 8:45 local was exactly so many hours/minutes into the new year of 2007. So apples can be directly compared with apples? Converted back to UTC, ACST is UTC +10.5 where as Qld is +10 making the 8:48 launch earlier in absolute time. I can be so pedantic sometimes ;) I'll let the club member answer your post directly (to make his claim!) The flight itself was noteworthy as well. Just a gentle flex of the grey matter post festive season;) Rgds A.J. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JR Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2007 8:22 PM To: Tom Wilksch; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Happy New Year to all, I was wondering who was the first person to fly a glider for 2007, I launched at 8:48 south aus summer time. regards JR - Original Message - From: Tom Wilksch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:08 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide As I'm sure most of you are aware, the Juniors are currently on in Leeton NSW. The website is updated daily with videos, blogs and results so take a look! Tom -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/609 - Release Date: 29-12-2006 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.2/613 - Release Date: 1/01/2007 2:50 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.2/613 - Release Date: 1/01/2007 2:50 PM ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide
SA has an artificial international time zone anyway making thing more difficult. - Original Message - From: AJ Wesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:50 PM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Hi JR, a good year to you too :) Interesting question. I just read a fellow club members chat email post whose flight started at 8:45 local (AEST)(Its not a rounded time with respect to minutes) By the mention of a time zone and the variable of Daylight Savings Time I had to think a touch more with regards to which time is in fact earlier. Being a Queenslander, what would I know about DST and therefore timezones anyway... That said, is the time zone at all relevant? Correct me if I'm wrong but 2007 started at a different point in time for someone, depending on their time zone. So a launch of 8:45 local was exactly so many hours/minutes into the new year of 2007. So apples can be directly compared with apples? Converted back to UTC, ACST is UTC +10.5 where as Qld is +10 making the 8:48 launch earlier in absolute time. I can be so pedantic sometimes ;) I'll let the club member answer your post directly (to make his claim!) The flight itself was noteworthy as well. Just a gentle flex of the grey matter post festive season;) Rgds A.J. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JR Sent: Tuesday, 2 January 2007 8:22 PM To: Tom Wilksch; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Happy New Year to all, I was wondering who was the first person to fly a glider for 2007, I launched at 8:48 south aus summer time. regards JR - Original Message - From: Tom Wilksch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:08 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide As I'm sure most of you are aware, the Juniors are currently on in Leeton NSW. The website is updated daily with videos, blogs and results so take a look! Tom -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/609 - Release Date: 29-12-2006 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.2/613 - Release Date: 1/01/2007 2:50 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.2/613 - Release Date: 1/01/2007 2:50 PM ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide
Thanks Tom I am looking every night, keep up the good work. At 05:08 PM 2/01/2007, you wrote: As I'm sure most of you are aware, the Juniors are currently on in Leeton NSW. The website is updated daily with videos, blogs and results so take a look! Tom -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/609 - Release Date: 29-12-2006 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Regards Rob Moore 08 82588026 home 0412 055 888 mobile ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide
AJ Wesley wrote: I'll let the club member answer your post directly (to make his claim!) The flight itself was noteworthy as well. Well - that was me. According to my IGC file, I took off at 08:42:55 and soaring commenced at 08:45:37 (at 2,667ft - which is interesting as that is 1,467ft agl and Alice was full of water). I was trying to do a 1000km flight from Jondaryan to Charleville and back. In the event, I got to Mitchell airfield (west of Roma) where the landable country ends. It's still 160km or so to Charleville and there is only one landing option - halfway at Morven airfield. So I needed the day to be higher and stronger than was the case. Still it was an interesting flight. I am getting used to early take offs and working from 1500ft to about 3000ft whilst full of water. I could actually have launched at least 15 min earlier if we had been ready! Fortunately, going west from Jondaryan the landing options are everywhere, but with the convection top so low, there is generally a great deal of weak lift around (much of it not workable in a water laden Nimbus2c though). Coming back from Mitchell the day overdeveloped and I had to divert quite a long way north of track (to Jandowae) in order to get round the over development, but I had my two highest climbs of the day as my last two climbs (getting close to 8000ft qnh). If it had been working that high at Mitchell I would have been able to push westward over the scrub for a while - and could have been faced with interesting decision about going on or turning back. Today doesn't look good but possibly tomorrow (Thursday) will allow me to have another try. What I need is a day that starts early (as it did on 1 Jan) but develops more quickly and goes much higher. I really need to be at 10,000ft or more at Mitchell with good experience of reliable lift to be able to cross the two 80km segments of unlandable country (twice) to make it to Charleville and back. You can see my trace on the OLC at http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0/gliding/flightinfo.html?flightId=-593380508 and I'll let everyone know if the next few days weather cooperates to allow the first 1000km flight entirely within Qld! -- Robert Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] +61 (0)438 385 533 http://www.hart.wattle.id.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Joeyglide
As I'm sure most of you are aware, the Juniors are currently on in Leeton NSW. The website is updated daily with videos, blogs and results so take a look! Tom -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/609 - Release Date: 29-12-2006 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide
Just a short note to everyone who has contributed, encouraged, or otherwise assisted the JoeyGlide concept – This year, again, will be exponentially bigger than last year. The future for competition gliding in Australia looks bright. Nick -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.24/592 - Release Date: 18/12/2006 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide
Yes thanks to handicapping of competitions, the coaching system and the enthusiasts behind the scenes like you that make it all happen. Have a safe comp. At 10:24 PM 19/12/2006, you wrote: Just a short note to everyone who has contributed, encouraged, or otherwise assisted the JoeyGlide concept This year, again, will be exponentially bigger than last year. The future for competition gliding in Australia looks bright. Nick -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.24/592 - Release Date: 18/12/2006 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Regards Rob Moore 08 82588026 home 0412 055 888 mobile ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide T-Shirts
Hey Patching, this reminds me, where is the KPST top I ordered long ago? Derek's GeriGlide was a good' un. Perhaps it could become the VGA's diminutive ;-) Chris McDonnell - Original Message - From: Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:57 PM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide T-Shirts Hey Nick You should produce some GeriGlide T shirts for all the OFITTH's out there :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2006 3:01 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide T-Shirts Hi There, This year through the use of our WebStore, JoeyGlide are able to offer our competition T-Shirts to the non-attending general public. Profits from these shirts are subsidising the contest, so if you would like to help us out, here is a simple way for you to do it! Have a look at http://www.JoeyGlide.com/ Regards, Nick Gilbert ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide T-Shirts
Yeah. I been slack. Getting another Boomerang going. I'll get onto it. Patch - Original Message - From: Christopher Mc Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide T-Shirts Hey Patching, this reminds me, where is the KPST top I ordered long ago? Derek's GeriGlide was a good' un. Perhaps it could become the VGA's diminutive ;-) Chris McDonnell - Original Message - From: Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:57 PM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide T-Shirts Hey Nick You should produce some GeriGlide T shirts for all the OFITTH's out there :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2006 3:01 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide T-Shirts Hi There, This year through the use of our WebStore, JoeyGlide are able to offer our competition T-Shirts to the non-attending general public. Profits from these shirts are subsidising the contest, so if you would like to help us out, here is a simple way for you to do it! Have a look at http://www.JoeyGlide.com/ Regards, Nick Gilbert ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 5/12/2006 4:07 PM ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide T-Shirts
Hi There, This year through the use of our WebStore, JoeyGlide are able to offer our competition T-Shirts to the non-attending general public. Profits from these shirts are subsidising the contest, so if you would like to help us out, here is a simple way for you to do it! Have a look at http://www.JoeyGlide.com/ Regards, Nick Gilbert ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide T-Shirts
Hey Nick You should produce some GeriGlide T shirts for all the OFITTH's out there :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2006 3:01 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide T-Shirts Hi There, This year through the use of our WebStore, JoeyGlide are able to offer our competition T-Shirts to the non-attending general public. Profits from these shirts are subsidising the contest, so if you would like to help us out, here is a simple way for you to do it! Have a look at http://www.JoeyGlide.com/ Regards, Nick Gilbert ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide T-Shirts
If you keep making comments like that you may not get to be one :-) At 02:57 PM 6/12/2006, you wrote: Hey Nick You should produce some GeriGlide T shirts for all the OFITTH's out there :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2006 3:01 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide T-Shirts Hi There, This year through the use of our WebStore, JoeyGlide are able to offer our competition T-Shirts to the non-attending general public. Profits from these shirts are subsidising the contest, so if you would like to help us out, here is a simple way for you to do it! Have a look at http://www.JoeyGlide.com/ Regards, Nick Gilbert ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Regards Rob Moore 08 82588026 home 0412 055 888 mobile ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide T-Shirts
Hee hee By Nick's standard I already qualify. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Moore Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2006 3:32 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide T-Shirts If you keep making comments like that you may not get to be one :-) At 02:57 PM 6/12/2006, you wrote: Hey Nick You should produce some GeriGlide T shirts for all the OFITTH's out there :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2006 3:01 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide T-Shirts Hi There, This year through the use of our WebStore, JoeyGlide are able to offer our competition T-Shirts to the non-attending general public. Profits from these shirts are subsidising the contest, so if you would like to help us out, here is a simple way for you to do it! Have a look at http://www.JoeyGlide.com/ Regards, Nick Gilbert ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Regards Rob Moore 08 82588026 home 0412 055 888 mobile ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide 05
G’Day, JoeyGlide 05 is in full swing. The website is being updated daily with photos results so make sure you keep checking. http://www.JoeyGlide.com/ Nick. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release Date: 2/12/2005 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide - Towplanes
Hi There, Due to some issues with Tugs Tug pilots, the Australian Junior Nationals is desperately in need of a Tug pilot that is able to attend Leeton from this coming Friday to the following Sunday (2nd December – 11th December). Anything will be considered at this stage! Please pass the word around. If you know of someone with a Pawnee, Maule, Cessna 180, Cessna 182, Cessna 185, etc. that may be available, please give me a call on 0419 412 772. Thanks, Nick Gilbert Contest Director -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/184 - Release Date: 27/11/2005 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide
Hi, First of all, the tug dramas have been solved. Thanks to those of you who responded with leads ideas. The competition itself starts this coming Saturday (the 3rd) with the practice day, and runs until Saturday the 10th. There are already several gliders onsite at Leeton, as you can see if you go to www.JoeyGlide.com and click on the ‘Webcam’ tab. The intention is for this contest to have the best competition website Australia has seen. We have a full time web developer / photographer coming to keep everything up to date, and scores will be published on the website (barring any technology issues) following our evening presentation ceremony which will happen at about 8:30pm – 9:00pm each night. We also have an online database that will show the status of each aircraft during the competition task. This can be accessed through the ‘ContestLive’ link at the top of the page. Ideally we would have liked to have real-time tracking, but this uses the GPRS network, something that is rather scarce in regional NSW. As we have gained a large amount of sponsorship for this contest, the best thing you can do the help the contest is to view the website as often as possible, and show our sponsors that they have gained the sort of exposure for their brand or organization that they have paid for. Thanks to all of those who have assisted. Nick Gilbert. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/184 - Release Date: 27/11/2005 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
