RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots?
Bettencourt is a French name. Both of my grandparents were from the Azores. Jane --- On Sat, 2/19/11, Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net wrote: From: Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots? To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, February 19, 2011, 6:52 PM Could it still be possible that people who settled in that area near Lisbon could have been from France? I know that Portugal was settlers from all different countries when it became established. Linda From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of emac...@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:22 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots? Vila Franca is an old city near Lisbon. Vila Franca de Xira. According to -Nossa Senhora da Vida- 3rd Visconde de Botelho, that Vila Franca do Campo was named by Goncalo Vaz Botelho, one of the early colonizers in Sao Miguel. It is thought that he was born in the region of Vila Franca de Xira, close to Lisbon where his family had good estates (seigniories). Many of us are descendants of Goncalo Vaz Botelho. Eloise In a message dated 2/18/2011 5:19:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, patli...@verizon.net writes: Vila Franca were people from France. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots?
Indeed it is. The Bettencourts went to the Azores via the Canary Islands and then Madeira. They are among my ancestors. John Miranda Raposo --- On Sun, 2/20/11, jane collins godspeedj...@yahoo.com wrote: From: jane collins godspeedj...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots? To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, February 20, 2011, 4:38 PM Bettencourt is a French name. Both of my grandparents were from the Azores. Jane --- On Sat, 2/19/11, Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net wrote: From: Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots? To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, February 19, 2011, 6:52 PM Could it still be possible that people who settled in that area near Lisbon could have been from France? I know that Portugal was settlers from all different countries when it became established. Linda From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of emac...@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:22 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots? Vila Franca is an old city near Lisbon. Vila Franca de Xira. According to -Nossa Senhora da Vida- 3rd Visconde de Botelho, that Vila Franca do Campo was named by Goncalo Vaz Botelho, one of the early colonizers in Sao Miguel. It is thought that he was born in the region of Vila Franca de Xira, close to Lisbon where his family had good estates (seigniories). Many of us are descendants of Goncalo Vaz Botelho. Eloise In a message dated 2/18/2011 5:19:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, patli...@verizon.net writes: Vila Franca were people from France. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Francis Brio or Braio
Shirley, Patsy and I did research, last year at the seminar put on by Cheri and Rosemarie, here in SLC, Utah. We researched using the files at the FHC. Found my grandfather's and my grandmother's brother's naturalization records filed in Oakland, CA. So if you are not close to a FHC there in the Bay Area, couldn't you go to the Oakland, to the Alameda County records office? Ally Anselmo's of Rebeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro's and Nune's of Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial Silveira's and Rodrigues' of Sao Jorge In a message dated 2/19/2011 1:04:25 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, shir...@digitalpath.net writes: Hi Eric: Where can I look to find naturalization cards? Both of my grandfathers were naturalized in California. Shirley - Original Message - From: _eric edgar_ (mailto:noblankt...@gmail.com) To: _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Francis Brio or Braio says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Francis Brio or Braio
I was at that conference too. I am the one that had left my laptop in Reno, NV at the airport. I was born in Niles (Fremont) and raised in Decoto (Union City) I have my grandfathers' naturalization papers. I got one from Oakland, and one from (I think) San Bruno. I just wanted to see if I could find more info. I can't get much info on my Paternal Grandfather, John da Cambra Roble. His father died as Manuel C. Rebello. My grandfather's mother was Mary. I know that he was from the island of Sao Miguel. I know that he lived in Hawaii. (He told me that he used to ride horses on the beach in Hawaii.) My cousin told me that he was from RIBEIRA SECA, Sao Miguel. But, I still haven't found him. I now live in the Sierras about 45 miles from Reno. There is a FHC in Portola, about 7 miles away. I have only been there once in Dec. I was sick for Dec Jan. And now there is too much snow outside. Shirley - Original Message - From: netadosaco...@aol.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Francis Brio or Braio Shirley, Patsy and I did research, last year at the seminar put on by Cheri and Rosemarie, here in SLC, Utah. We researched using the files at the FHC. Found my grandfather's and my grandmother's brother's naturalization records filed in Oakland, CA. So if you are not close to a FHC there in the Bay Area, couldn't you go to the Oakland, to the Alameda County records office? Ally Anselmo's of Rebeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro's and Nune's of Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial Silveira's and Rodrigues' of Sao Jorge In a message dated 2/19/2011 1:04:25 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, shir...@digitalpath.net writes: Hi Eric: Where can I look to find naturalization cards? Both of my grandfathers were naturalized in California. Shirley - Original Message - From: eric edgar To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Francis Brio or Braio says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help on starting our Azorean family history
I am excited to find this google group and am enjoying all the posts. I have felt inspired to research my husband's Azorean history for the last 10 years and haven't done much. I am amazed how little his father and aunt know (who are now in their late 80's). They don't even know what their grandparents first names were! We do know that Theodore (Theotonio) Martins (my father in laws father) was born in San Bartolomeu, Terceira around 1886 and died 1935 in Patterson, CA and his wife Madeline Rocha was born in 1896 in Porto Judeo, Terceira and died in 1957 in Santa Clara, CA. I have gone to Family History Centers and ordered microfilm that my friend who is Portuguese could not even begin to make out (the scribble) Anyone have advice on where to start? Is there a good way to search passengers on ships that came over?...I can guess they came in the 1920's but no idea how they traveled to California. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots?
My husband has BETTENCOURT in his ancestry, from Sao Jorge island. Shirley - Original Message - From: John Raposo To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 8:42 AM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots? Indeed it is. The Bettencourts went to the Azores via the Canary Islands and then Madeira. They are among my ancestors. John Miranda Raposo --- On Sun, 2/20/11, jane collins godspeedj...@yahoo.com wrote: From: jane collins godspeedj...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots? To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, February 20, 2011, 4:38 PM Bettencourt is a French name. Both of my grandparents were from the Azores. Jane --- On Sat, 2/19/11, Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net wrote: From: Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots? To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, February 19, 2011, 6:52 PM Could it still be possible that people who settled in that area near Lisbon could have been from France? I know that Portugal was settlers from all different countries when it became established. Linda -- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of emac...@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:22 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots? Vila Franca is an old city near Lisbon. Vila Franca de Xira. According to -Nossa Senhora da Vida- 3rd Visconde de Botelho, that Vila Franca do Campo was named by Goncalo Vaz Botelho, one of the early colonizers in Sao Miguel. It is thought that he was born in the region of Vila Franca de Xira, close to Lisbon where his family had good estates (seigniories). Many of us are descendants of Goncalo Vaz Botelho. Eloise In a message dated 2/18/2011 5:19:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, patli...@verizon.net writes: Vila Franca were people from France. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help on starting our Azorean family history
Have you gotten copies of their death certificates? It might list who their parents were. Shirley - Original Message - From: Emily Martin ricksaquab...@sbcglobal.net To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:13 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help on starting our Azorean family history I am excited to find this google group and am enjoying all the posts. I have felt inspired to research my husband's Azorean history for the last 10 years and haven't done much. I am amazed how little his father and aunt know (who are now in their late 80's). They don't even know what their grandparents first names were! We do know that Theodore (Theotonio) Martins (my father in laws father) was born in San Bartolomeu, Terceira around 1886 and died 1935 in Patterson, CA and his wife Madeline Rocha was born in 1896 in Porto Judeo, Terceira and died in 1957 in Santa Clara, CA. I have gone to Family History Centers and ordered microfilm that my friend who is Portuguese could not even begin to make out (the scribble) Anyone have advice on where to start? Is there a good way to search passengers on ships that came over?...I can guess they came in the 1920's but no idea how they traveled to California. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help on starting our Azorean family history
Hi Emily, Since you are dealing with records from the 1880s and 1890s from Sao Bartolomeu and Porto Judeo, you will have to either write there to get them, hire a researcher to get them for you, or go there yourself. To write there (form letter where you fill in the blanks at the end of the document): http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/genresources.html Find a researcher: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html#researchers For Porto Judeo and Sao Bartolomeu, once you get back to 1873, you can research via the film. How to read the handwriting: Either use a researcher or learn yourself. It takes perseverance and a lot of patience, but it can be done: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo_Part_3a.html#reading http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/Paleography/paleography_01.html https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Portuguese_Genealogical_Word_List (Scroll down to where it says Additional Resources in purple. Under that, look for the blue words Basic Portuguese Paleography. It is in 4 parts. Hope some of this helps. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help on starting our Azorean family history
Emily, Do you know if Aguiar is part of their name? I found a ship's record for a Teotonio Martins Aguiar, 27, born Lages, Terceira, sailing from Angra, Terceira, November 14, 1920, on the ship Roma, arriving Providence, RI, November 22, 1920, leaving his father Manuel Martins Aguiar, Lages, Terceira, Azores going to friend Manuel G. Godinho, 92 Mulberry Street, Fall River, MA. Will keep searching but let me know if this might be him as then I can check the CCA site. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] More about genealogy software for Macs
Dick Eastman posted about different programs (some free) to help Mac users run almost any Windows based program. It was originally written by the folks at RootsMagic. http://goo.gl/cr2wd or http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2011/02/running-rootsmagic-on-a-macintosh.html Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vila Franca
Hi, Yes it is possible especially after the French invasion in 1807. The Portuguese progression up the chart are 1st Homo Sapiens in the North, Iberians in the South (believed to be peoples from North Aftrica), Celtic, Roman, Germanic, Morish. And then, after the age of Discovery (Infant Don Henrique, the Navigator), 60 years of Spanish Dominion, followed by the French invasion : France and Spain signed the Treaty of Fountainebleau, which gave Napoleon the right to invade Portugal through Spain. They agreed that after the invasion, Portugal would be divided between France and Spain. The French occupied the country in 1807, and the Portuguese royal family fled to Brazil. About 50,000 French and Spanish troops roved the countryside arresting, killing, plundering and raping as they pleased. In 1808 Portugal got help from the British, their oldest allies. If you would like to know more about Portugal and its peoples, please click on the link below. http://www.golisbon.com/culture/history.html http://www.golisbon.com/culture/history.htmlBest, Margaret Vicente On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:14 PM, emac...@aol.com wrote: Could it still be possible that people who settled in that area near Lisbon could have been from France? I know that Portugal was settlers from all different countries when it became established. I don't think the French settled in Vila Franca Xira.. A grant of land about 1147 near Lisbon was given to Guilherme Shire of England, a crusader. His name became Xira, a Portuguese corruption of Shire. He gave it the name Vila Franca de Xira. He had been one of the crusaders on his way to the Holy Land for the second crusade. The ship made a stop in Lisbon, and never left. King Afonso Henriques, with the help of those crusaders, English, French, and Germans,. drove the Moors from Lisbon in 1147. The King, grateful for this help, gave land to the crusaders who wished to remain in Portugal. Today Vila Franca de Xira is a large city on the Tagus river. So as the story goes, is is possible that one of Guilherme's descendants, Goncalo Vaz Botelho, founded Vila Franca on Sao Miguel, the first capitol of that island. Vila Franca was destroyed by a terrible earthquake and flood of water and mud in 1522 And as a result, Ponta Delgada became the capitol of Sao Miguel. . -- *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *emac...@aol.com *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2011 9:22 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots? Vila Franca is an old city near Lisbon. Vila Franca de Xira. According to -Nossa Senhora da Vida- 3rd Visconde de Botelho, that Vila Franca do Campo was named by Goncalo Vaz Botelho, one of the early colonizers in Sao Miguel. It is thought that he was born in the region of Vila Franca de Xira, close to Lisbon where his family had good estates (seigniories). Many of us are descendants of Goncalo Vaz Botelho. Eloise In a message dated 2/18/2011 5:19:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, patli...@verizon.net writes: Vila Franca were people from France. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- Margaret M Vicente -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help on starting our Azorean family history
Emily, Could this be him. I found a Theotonio b. April 28, 1896 and bp. Mary 4, 1896 in Sao Bartholomeu. The father is Theontonio Igacio Martins and wife Maria Jose Vieira, married May 14, 1888 The record for the birth in 1896-11-12 Sao Bartholomew baptism, The record for the marriage of the father is Record #5 casamentos 1888-04 Sao Bartolomeu The grandparents are Paterna Francisco Ignacio Martins and Maria Balbina, and Materna- Matheus Vieira and Delfina Candida, she from Sao Pedro, Angra Helen -Original Message- From: Emily Martin ricksaquab...@sbcglobal.net To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Feb 20, 2011 11:03 am Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help on starting our Azorean family history I am excited to find this google group and am enjoying all the posts. have felt inspired to research my husband's Azorean history for the ast 10 years and haven't done much. I am amazed how little his ather and aunt know (who are now in their late 80's). They don't ven know what their grandparents first names were! We do know that heodore (Theotonio) Martins (my father in laws father) was born in an Bartolomeu, Terceira around 1886 and died 1935 in Patterson, CA nd his wife Madeline Rocha was born in 1896 in Porto Judeo, Terceira nd died in 1957 in Santa Clara, CA. I have gone to Family History enters and ordered microfilm that my friend who is Portuguese could ot even begin to make out (the scribble) Anyone have advice on where to start? Is there a good way to search assengers on ships that came over?...I can guess they came in the 920's but no idea how they traveled to California. -- o unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. ollow the confirmation directions when they arrive. or more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at ttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that ays Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. Helen -Original Message- From: Emily Martin ricksaquab...@sbcglobal.net To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Feb 20, 2011 11:03 am Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help on starting our Azorean family history I am excited to find this google group and am enjoying all the posts. have felt inspired to research my husband's Azorean history for the ast 10 years and haven't done much. I am amazed how little his ather and aunt know (who are now in their late 80's). They don't ven know what their grandparents first names were! We do know that heodore (Theotonio) Martins (my father in laws father) was born in an Bartolomeu, Terceira around 1886 and died 1935 in Patterson, CA nd his wife Madeline Rocha was born in 1896 in Porto Judeo, Terceira nd died in 1957 in Santa Clara, CA. I have gone to Family History enters and ordered microfilm that my friend who is Portuguese could ot even begin to make out (the scribble) Anyone have advice on where to start? Is there a good way to search assengers on ships that came over?...I can guess they came in the 920's but no idea how they traveled to California. -- o unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. ollow the confirmation directions when they arrive. or more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at ttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that ays Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help on starting our Azorean family history
Convinced hubby he can go shopping alone... Are there 2 Theotonio Martins??? California Death Index, 1940-1997 Name: Theotonio Ignacio Martins Birth Date: 28 Apr 1896 Birthplace: Other Country Death Date: 25 Apr 1958 Death Place: Monterey Mother's Maiden Name: Vierra Father's Surname: Martins The one I sent stone info on (with a nice picture on it of him) is buried in Patterson CA... born 1888 died 1937 according to headstone. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help on starting our Azorean family history
Here is ship's list for other Theotonio. Which one is yours? Theotonio Ignacio Martins 23, b. Bartolomeu, Terceira, on ship Roma, leaving Horta Oct. 23/1919 arriving Providence (Ancestry has mistakenly listed this under NY Passenger List), leaving his mother Maria Jose Vieira, Santa Luzia, Angra, Terceira, going to his brother Jose Ignacio Martins, Tepton, Tulare, CA. Will wait till you let us know which one is yours before I do anymore research, ie finding him on CCA list. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots?
Aguiar can be traced from Azores from Portugal, from Sprain back to France Loretta -Original Message- From: jane collins godspeedj...@yahoo.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Feb 20, 2011 10:38 am Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots? Bettencourt is a French name. Both of my grandparents were from the Azores. Jane --- On Sat, 2/19/11, Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net wrote: From: Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots? To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, February 19, 2011, 6:52 PM Could it still be possible that people who settled in that area near Lisbon could have been from France? I know that Portugal was settlers from all different countries when it became established. Linda From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of emac...@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:22 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots? Vila Franca is an old city near Lisbon. Vila Franca de Xira. According to -Nossa Senhora da Vida- 3rd Visconde de Botelho, that Vila Franca do Campo was named by Goncalo Vaz Botelho, one of the early colonizers in Sao Miguel. It is thought that he was born in the region of Vila Franca de Xira, close to Lisbon where his family had good estates (seigniories). Many of us are descendants of Goncalo Vaz Botelho. Eloise In a message dated 2/18/2011 5:19:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, patli...@verizon.net writes: Vila Franca were people from France. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Sacramento/Sacramento County Research Site
Here is a great site if you are researching the Sacramento/Sacramento County area. Has loads of information. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~npmelton/sacindex.html#_Directories E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Francis Brio or Braio
I don't understand why this is showing up on my JOSEPH FRANCIS BRIO OR BRAIO thread? From: netadosaco...@aol.com netadosaco...@aol.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 5:30:47 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Francis Brio or Braio Shirley, Patsy and I did research, last year at the seminar put on by Cheri and Rosemarie, here in SLC, Utah. We researched using the files at the FHC. Found my grandfather's and my grandmother's brother's naturalization records filed in Oakland, CA. So if you are not close to a FHC there in the Bay Area, couldn't you go to the Oakland, to the Alameda County records office? Ally Anselmo's of Rebeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro's and Nune's of Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial Silveira's and Rodrigues' of Sao Jorge In a message dated 2/19/2011 1:04:25 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, shir...@digitalpath.net writes: Hi Eric: Where can I look to find naturalization cards? Both of my grandfathers werenaturalized in California. Shirley - Original Message - From: eric edgar To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Francis Brio or Braiosays Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.-- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged,or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this groupat http://groups.google.com/group/Azores.Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it willtake you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Question on census
On the census...It has head of household, spouse, etc...when it asks for birthplace of Mother and Fatherwho's mother and father are they asking about...the head of household? Thanks -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on census
Each person enumerated asks for their birth and that of their father and their mother. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots?
My father had a sister who married a Bettencourt. It is obviously a common name as I am acquainted with at least five different Bettencourt families. Al -Original Message- From: drvh...@cs.com Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 1:46 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com a Aguiar can be traced from Azores from Portugal, from Sprain back to FranceaLoretta -Original Message- From: jane collins godspeedj...@yahoo.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Feb 20, 2011 10:38 am Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots? Bettencourt is a French name. Both of my grandparents were from the Azores. Jane --- On Sat, 2/19/11, Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net wrote: From: Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots? To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, February 19, 2011, 6:52 PM Could it still be possible that people who settled in that area near Lisbon could have been from France? I know that Portugal was settlers from all different countries when it became established. Linda From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of emac...@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:22 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic or Jewish Roots? Vila Franca is an old city near Lisbon. Vila Franca de Xira. According to -Nossa Senhora da Vida- 3rd Visconde de Botelho, that Vila Franca do Campo was named by Goncalo Vaz Botelho, one of the early colonizers in Sao Miguel. It is thought that he was born in the region of Vila Franca de Xira, close to Lisbon where his family had good estates (seigniories). Many of us are descendants of Goncalo Vaz Botelho. Eloise In a message dated 2/18/2011 5:19:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, patli...@verizon.net writes: Vila Franca were people from France. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Question
A question was posted a few days ago on how to read and understand DNA testing that come back. I never saw any reply on it, Can you tell me if it was answer or is my listing not working. I ask the question because I too had it done last year and I have no idea what to do with how to post it or anything. I am sorry but it makes no sense to me, and not sure where to go? Thanks Bob Camacho Researching the Island of Terceira for da Costa, Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera Researching the Island of Graciousa for Reis Researching the Island of Madeira for Camacho Researching Brazil for Evangelho -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
